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<v Speaker 1>A segment number two of The Ocel Effect Live Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Night open Mic, and we got plenty of callers on

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<v Speaker 1>the line still I think, let me double check. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still there and more than happy to make it

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<v Speaker 1>merrier with more three one nine five two seven five

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<v Speaker 1>zero one six, be pete. Uh you're you're back with me, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So anything you want to drop on the table

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<v Speaker 1>before we uh, I don't know, try and add everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in and see what happens when we do that, or

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think what should we do next?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we can go back. Well, see if he really

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<v Speaker 3>wants to have any theater wants to be discussed.

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<v Speaker 1>Up for loop. Sounds good to me. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if a new caller comes in, I'll jump them to

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the line so to speak, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you call in now, I'll add you in

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<v Speaker 1>right away. Uh and get get you know, let you

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<v Speaker 1>get a turn at it, so to speak, right as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as I can. But you got to join us

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<v Speaker 1>by dialing three one nine five two seven five zero

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<v Speaker 1>one six. That's the number to call. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this, you know and recording can't call us unless

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<v Speaker 1>you got a time machine, but it is. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>see nine forty seven, and we're going to go past

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<v Speaker 1>the ten o'clock time limit that we normally set. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how far we're going to go past. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we'll see how things go, and we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys call in. But if you're hearing us live

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<v Speaker 1>at nine forty seven almost nine forty eight pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday the thirteenth, that is June thirteenth of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, then we're live. So there you go. So

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<v Speaker 1>b Pete, I guess uh, in order we should grab

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<v Speaker 1>JJ Jimmy James first, right, all right, So Jimmy, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you want want to comment on stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or you want to just hang and let me start

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<v Speaker 1>pulling other people in up to you? Man, what says you? Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to comment on Danny's comments. Earlier, I

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<v Speaker 4>was listening to a comedy podcast which had Dana Carvey

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<v Speaker 4>and David Spade. They live in the outskirts of LA.

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<v Speaker 4>Now Danny's four hundred miles north of LA. Now, mister

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<v Speaker 4>Spade and mister Carvey have a hell of a lot

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<v Speaker 4>better view than then. You want to hear from what's

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<v Speaker 4>really going on? Okay, well, yes, they describe it. It's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty watch what my eyes in ear see on Fox

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<v Speaker 4>Live as they stream it, stream it all the time

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<v Speaker 4>for the past weeks straight when it has been going on,

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<v Speaker 4>and yeah, you're right, it is. It's strange that the

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<v Speaker 4>riot didn't get out of control like ninety two. Why

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<v Speaker 4>is that? Oh, that's right, because they knew, Trump said

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<v Speaker 4>in the National Guard in the Marines and let them

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<v Speaker 4>know they ain't gonna take that crap. And thank god

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<v Speaker 4>that their sheriff isn't as big of an idiot as

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<v Speaker 4>Karen Bass the communists, the former lover of Fidel Castro.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a joke. Look it up in your Google machines, folks, that.

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<v Speaker 5>Fine person.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know, Danny, Danny had said his observation one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing though, real quick, Danna said his observation, so,

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<v Speaker 1>y know, one second Mark. Danny's observation was about what

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<v Speaker 1>do you call San Francisco, which is where he had

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<v Speaker 1>been recently the past couple of days he had been

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<v Speaker 1>near San Francisco, which he was saying, there was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not much going on there, even though there was reports.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but no, no, what's really going down. It's three

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and forty six illegal aliens. What this is is

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<v Speaker 4>the last stand of the illegal alience throwing a little

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<v Speaker 4>fit with the help of the Democratic Party and a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of chinamen finding them, financing them, who are sick

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<v Speaker 4>of this shit. There's one hundred and eighty organizations. Now

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<v Speaker 4>they've been shown to be paying for this garbage. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a criminal conspiracy and they need to be prosecuted. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what the Democrat Party is, Danny, how about that. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>you think it's time to start a real political party

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<v Speaker 4>or just get rid of political parties? Because the Democrat Party,

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<v Speaker 4>what exactly do they stand for?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I get it, you're against Trump, that's nice. What exactly

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<v Speaker 4>saying policies do you people support?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's that.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's going to vote Democrat ever. Again. Guess what

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<v Speaker 4>when you stay out loud that you don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>a woman is, you're done. When you don't protect your citizens,

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<v Speaker 4>you're done. There is no Democrat Party. Maybe you should

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<v Speaker 4>think about starting something new with some intelligent people. Look

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<v Speaker 4>at the people who run that thing, Maxine Waters, are

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<v Speaker 4>you kidding me? Alc Bernie Sanders, morons couldn't pass. Oh anything.

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<v Speaker 4>This is ridiculous. Callan Keller talking about Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you crazy?

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<v Speaker 4>These people couldn't even pass. Yeah, she's always talking about

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<v Speaker 4>that Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Helen Keller, I thought you met the blind

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<v Speaker 1>and deaf and a mute woman that you know, learned

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<v Speaker 1>that you know the Miracle Worker movie was based on.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was aid Ellen Keller. Sorry, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was. Okay, you were the same thing. People

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<v Speaker 1>people's I'm sorry. I thought you me and be Peter

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. We thought you said Helen Keller. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you mean Helen Keller.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, whoever the broad is you have on your show

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<v Speaker 4>bung on the next people All Speak, He's got plenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Maria Heller. No, no, that's not Helen Keller. You're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Maria Heller. I do a show. I do

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<v Speaker 1>a show with her on her website mainly and we

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<v Speaker 1>also put it online in the members section. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Maria Heller. Helen Keller is a deaf, dumb and

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<v Speaker 1>blind lady that was famous in the movie The Miracle

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<v Speaker 1>Worker and all that. You know, so well, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Why these death coming uh me. When it comes to politics, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine. I just was trying to clarify my my,

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<v Speaker 1>my mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh well, let's see who called next? Be Pete? Was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was spid Kent? Right, So we do we want

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<v Speaker 1>to do the round table thing? I mean, Jimmy's hopped

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit. Do you want to do the

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<v Speaker 1>round table thing? Or should we What should we do here?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we've got an open question from uh jim James

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<v Speaker 6>to Bailey.

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<v Speaker 3>So you want to bring Kenny in or open wallet?

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<v Speaker 3>Let everybody reply?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you want me to grab Danny?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, help me out here, man, cost help

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<v Speaker 1>me make a decision here, because which way should we go?

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<v Speaker 1>Should we grab Danny next? And see what he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, go to Danny?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, got Danny.

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<v Speaker 3>See if he's got a response to Jimmy James and

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<v Speaker 3>then uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, okay, okay, so that's how we're doing it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>letting the coast call it. Let's see what happens. So, uh, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've tagged your line open and you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with me and be Pete and Jimmy James.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, Well I know what a woman is

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<v Speaker 2>trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm glad you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Those those essers are pios. Well, you know what I

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<v Speaker 2>care about. I care about the children are said, people

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<v Speaker 2>have Medicare, people have access to education, that there's infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a domestic policy. That's what I care about.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you want to say the.

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic Party leadership there, they're they're way more corporate and

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<v Speaker 2>way more to the right of me that if you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the Republicans, I voted for Ronald Reagan twice

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason why I quit the Republican Party in

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<v Speaker 2>AD nineteen eighty six because their policies are basically top

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<v Speaker 2>down and the downward don't get a damn thing. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, you can sit there the Republican Party,

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<v Speaker 2>their cruelty with a smile. In my opinion, tell me

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<v Speaker 2>what policies that work for you to make your lives better.

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<v Speaker 2>You got social Security, you got Medicare, you got Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 2>you're actually helping people. I can go on. Lets you

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<v Speaker 2>take those programs of help people.

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<v Speaker 4>They have destroyed the black community, your precious welfare.

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<v Speaker 2>And as far as social.

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<v Speaker 4>Security and Medicare and Medicaid, we are on the brink

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<v Speaker 4>of insolvency. Your children will be the slaves of your debt,

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<v Speaker 4>yours mine. All of our debts are all going to

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<v Speaker 4>your children, your grandchildren, your great grandchildren. Oh that's very kind,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Okay, David Stockman, remember Reagan's budget, the budget budget

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<v Speaker 2>for school Reagan.

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<v Speaker 4>Why should I vote for Democrats? What's one policy you have.

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<v Speaker 2>That is saying Jimmy, David Stockin's a Republican. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the chief budget officer of the Reagan administration. He said

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<v Speaker 2>his tax because we're going to inflate the deficit. I

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<v Speaker 2>voted for Rob Reagan in nineteen eighty. He ran that

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to slash the deficit. He damn near

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<v Speaker 2>quadrupled it. And they continued to do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>They go to, Oh gosh, we're going to pretend that

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<v Speaker 4>that wasn't the Democrat Congress who was in charge for

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<v Speaker 4>sixty damn years.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what we're going to do? You know, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring up Pal Reagan. Pal Reagan, let two

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<v Speaker 2>million illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>Aliens become citizens. Yeah, that's true. Because the Democrats lied

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<v Speaker 4>and promised to build a border wall.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they do is lie.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm getting a little sick of it. And they're criminals,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're all conspirators literally, and we're going to smash

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<v Speaker 4>them into a million damn pieces.

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<v Speaker 5>Lu trees and US cocksuckers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh excuse me, I'm not gonna call names.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not you, the dns SEE and the CCP and

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<v Speaker 4>whoever out the cartels.

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<v Speaker 2>Who aren't they involved with? Oh there's been so money

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<v Speaker 2>the Republicans are they're bought and sold. Come on, Oh, really,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole party? While name one instance, demmy, have I

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<v Speaker 2>come out here? My biggest complaint with the Democrat Party

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<v Speaker 2>has been their leadership, failed leadership. I don't really have

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<v Speaker 2>in the with the republic I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican Party is now, don't. Well, let's see what

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<v Speaker 2>they've done lately.

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<v Speaker 5>They've enforced the border, they enforced.

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<v Speaker 2>Law and order.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want our children being secretly molested at school.

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<v Speaker 4>They believe in two sexes. Gee, they have a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of common SATs. They want tax cots for everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>including the middle class. They just removed taxes from tips.

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<v Speaker 4>They just removed taxes from wages for overtime that was

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<v Speaker 4>in the build of age. You know that, Danny, that's

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<v Speaker 4>going to do more than all that crap. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>that the DNC did having more money that is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be life changing for people not to have their

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<v Speaker 4>overtime text.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, how about Biden that he expanded overtime and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a Trump judge to set it down. It was

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<v Speaker 2>going to free up eight million people that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be eligible to overtime.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Biden. There was workers that were classified as what they

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are contract workers. Aren't forcing those people to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well that's what you accepted. But he was actually

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<v Speaker 2>set down by a Republican judge.

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<v Speaker 4>A Republican there's no such thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We get.

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<v Speaker 4>Judges aren't supposed to be part of political parties, and

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<v Speaker 4>if they're going California, they aren't Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because you get nominated by.

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<v Speaker 4>A Republican doesn't mean you're a Republican. You get to

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<v Speaker 4>to choose one third or vice versa, and who depends

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<v Speaker 4>district court judges, appeals court judges. Every state gets three

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<v Speaker 4>senators wreck Amen the third. Isn't that right?

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<v Speaker 1>VP?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the one thing you can look at is

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Court. You know, you could just look there.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at what we got John Roberts, Chief Justice. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>of Republicans, and turns out he's just as g a

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<v Speaker 3>seven of these decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>You really think these people thinking, you know, everybody thought

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<v Speaker 6>John Roberts is going to save the world. He's the

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<v Speaker 6>one that put Obamacare out there by changing the argument

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<v Speaker 3>Room and then voting for it.

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<v Speaker 7>Say well, where he's a good sexual marriage.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't forget he legalized gay marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>So look at it, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what good did it?

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<v Speaker 8>Did it?

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<v Speaker 3>Claim to be a Republican? Isn't looking towards conservative end

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<v Speaker 3>of things. You gotta be careful what you do. Trump

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<v Speaker 3>screwed up big time with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in the Federalist Society the other side to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they had it down. Who didn't they?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they screwed it to you.

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<v Speaker 4>And Trump has already said the other day he's done

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's I'm just talking about. Who got on

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<v Speaker 1>the court during that first term. Is Federalist Society picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just saying that's who's there, right, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>And Trump just said the other day they really screwed

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<v Speaker 4>him over and he'll never listen to them again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He also thinks Vladimir Putin changed recently. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put you guys both on hold, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put this aside because I kind of let

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<v Speaker 1>those two go just talk for a minute, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it went. So let's give the spent cannon

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<v Speaker 1>around everybody at some point here. But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think first we go over to uh yeah, to uh

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<v Speaker 1>spend Kent, right me, Pete? Yeah, please do all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Spin can't Well you heard part of the discussions here

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<v Speaker 1>and all. I don't know if you want to add anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I throw the flour over to you, and if

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<v Speaker 5>By spinny shit sandwich churt soup shit, sandwich turd soup shit,

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<v Speaker 5>sandwich turd soup. All right, anyways, but can't But can't

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<v Speaker 5>I have dogshit?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I have dog shit? You have cat shit? My

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<v Speaker 1>dog shit is better than your cat shit. You know that.

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<v Speaker 5>Mine has democratic barbecue sauce in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have ketchup? Anyway, go ahead, now, wasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>what's his name?

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<v Speaker 5>The Democrat? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>What was it?

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<v Speaker 5>Dumbass Kerry? He was married to the Iron School, So

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<v Speaker 5>yeah he was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I was thinking of.

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<v Speaker 5>You said, I like his ketchup, but I don't like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly what I was thinking of, is that Kerry

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<v Speaker 1>with the ketchup?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, well, I say, it's been a while since

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<v Speaker 4>I heard regular Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>I much forgot about you, bro, It's been a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>And if I'm not mistaken, isn't he He's not a statist, right,

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<v Speaker 5>he's not a statist.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you what. I'll let regular Joe answer

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<v Speaker 1>that for himself. Let's put him on with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think I just did that, Joe. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>you hearing me right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you all right. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on with Smith Kent a statist? Absolutely not?

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<v Speaker 4>Then you know, you know what?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what I am to the marrow of my bones, Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a human fucking being, just like all the rest

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<v Speaker 7>of these people are arguing over bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where that's me.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I remember you from the day man you

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<v Speaker 5>were you saw like me. There's just understanding just being

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<v Speaker 5>a human being, and you know, understanding freedom and different things,

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<v Speaker 5>different philosophies. We don't have to have a system like

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<v Speaker 5>we do. Uh, there's a better way of voluntary society.

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<v Speaker 5>So wid separates this a just from whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 7>To call you know, the the system doesn't give you freedom.

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<v Speaker 7>The system will will sell you the illusion of freedom,

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<v Speaker 7>and they'll sell you that illusion every time you go

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<v Speaker 7>to the polls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you want to be blue, be blue, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be red?

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<v Speaker 1>Be red.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, I'm just going to be Joe of choice.

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<v Speaker 2>You because you know, you know why, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Joe. And this is this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>sound snarky.

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<v Speaker 7>And I kind of mean it to be because I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to sound all hateful like Jimmy James just did. Man,

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<v Speaker 7>that was so much spew and and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so volatile.

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<v Speaker 7>Why why be so passionate about people who would rather

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<v Speaker 7>you are dead?

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't care if they're wearing red or blue.

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<v Speaker 2>They want you dead.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy, Yeah, they don't care about us. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 5>think about who they care about, the people that are

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<v Speaker 5>given them money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And I don't have any money to give them.

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<v Speaker 5>And if I did, pitching together or barely afford a

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<v Speaker 5>twelve pack of beer right now and then, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>those guys are taking you know, tens of thousand, hundreds

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<v Speaker 5>of thousands, to even millions of dollars from donors, billionaire

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<v Speaker 5>donors that are telling these politicians, hey, at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of the day, you work for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Not them.

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<v Speaker 5>And guess who them is us? And it's one big

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<v Speaker 5>club and we ain't in it.

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<v Speaker 1>We ain't in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother George, Carlin love it. But that's the thing, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing with me.

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<v Speaker 7>Why get so passionate about this? I've heard people have

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<v Speaker 7>the same passionate arguments about their favorite sports team or

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<v Speaker 7>their favorite grassler, you know what I mean? And look,

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<v Speaker 7>the guy that's running your country right now, let's not forget,

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<v Speaker 7>is in the w W Hall of Fame, folks.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a he's had a stone cold stunner.

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<v Speaker 2>Why get everybody in that way out.

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<v Speaker 5>At a stone cold stunner? You know what what these

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<v Speaker 5>politics really change for you?

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing? You know what? You reminded me?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you?

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<v Speaker 1>Can? You reminded me of something? And uh, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>real fast while I keep both of you guys on

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<v Speaker 1>at me that that you just used, so uh, illusion

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<v Speaker 1>of choice. And the guy who wrote the Olli Effect,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who wrote the Ocelli Effect theme music, the

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<v Speaker 1>Smith wrote a song called.

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<v Speaker 8>Illusion of Politicians this is the best we can do, folks.

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<v Speaker 8>This is what we have to offer. It's what our

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<v Speaker 5>When won't you weapon learn how pity more time?

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<v Speaker 4>Won't you get fun?

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<v Speaker 5>Don't pele full find a suit and tie.

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<v Speaker 8>They don't follow missions all things so it is live

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<v Speaker 6>Fun out coverage single American what I think the South?

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you, never do the fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you see the truth.

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<v Speaker 5>They play the trust hope the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's lo fum.

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<v Speaker 8>Candidates to the mama said run the car that keeps

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<v Speaker 5>The said he couldn't freak make a pop.

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<v Speaker 4>De sense, but you other said some of them he cleans.

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<v Speaker 5>Off the raps.

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<v Speaker 2>See y'all would jumped down and gone's fork the fo

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<v Speaker 1>Many people don't pay what the things to free free boy,

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see it on the TV.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the your west side, lay us out some

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<v Speaker 5>big pop off that flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, that's a piece of that song. Uh hey, spen Cat,

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<v Speaker 1>is Renegade stuff still available like on iTunes and whatnot?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it still out there for sale or what.

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<v Speaker 5>I would assume.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I did talk to him like a year ago.

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<v Speaker 5>He called in to the Bottom of the Feet show,

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<v Speaker 5>talked to me and lean and it's been it's been

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<v Speaker 5>years since I talked to him. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 5>just good tack of a musician meet him. We meet him,

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<v Speaker 5>but he sometimes they were like like back in the day,

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<v Speaker 5>lot of different stuff. And but he does get the

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<v Speaker 5>whole political thing, you know, he gets the part that

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<v Speaker 5>like that we were just talking about understanding politics and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you can't trust these people and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>He's there on that. It's just sometimes I think he's

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<v Speaker 5>strays into the the craziness sometimes. But uh, but that's

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<v Speaker 5>had our little disagreements.

430
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<v Speaker 8>But you know he's a cool dude.

431
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<v Speaker 5>He called in last year and uh, very very very

432
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<v Speaker 5>talented m A J.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I just but look, I just want to

434
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<v Speaker 1>play part of his song because you've just used the phrase,

435
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<v Speaker 1>and I thought to myself, you know, I have that

436
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<v Speaker 1>song in here somewhere and I just grabbed it and

437
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<v Speaker 1>played it. So there you go.

438
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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, yeah, so reality. Yeah, so anyway you

439
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<v Speaker 5>went to reality.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, back back to your was that? What was that? Joe? Sorry?

441
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<v Speaker 10>I said, I'm glad you went musical with it.

442
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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me I sent the song to your messenger a.

443
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<v Speaker 9>While back by a singer that's gaining some notoriety named

444
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<v Speaker 9>Jesse Wells.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard of him?

446
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I've heard the name. I don't remember you sending

447
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<v Speaker 1>me that song. Send it again, though, because I don't

448
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<v Speaker 1>you know what. You might have sent it to the

449
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<v Speaker 1>old account because I got locked out of my old Facebook.

450
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm pretty sure I sent it to the new one.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

453
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<v Speaker 7>But Jesse Wells is the name of the song is

454
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<v Speaker 7>called Red and he busts on j d Vance and

455
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<v Speaker 7>it's veiled, but he was talking about bootstrap tugging, technocratic buddy.

456
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<v Speaker 7>He wrote an elegy for a people he don't know,

457
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<v Speaker 7>and it ain't funny.

458
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<v Speaker 1>I don't Yeah, I heard that one.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a pretty cool song. It's called Red and

460
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<v Speaker 2>then Illusion of Choice.

461
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<v Speaker 1>I love that song.

462
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<v Speaker 7>I remember that back when you first started streaming that

463
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.920
<v Speaker 7>and from Renegade Smith. I absolutely love that song and

464
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<v Speaker 7>it reminds me of.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Lyrics from Stone Sour.

466
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<v Speaker 7>Have you ever heard the song Choose by Stone Tower?

467
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

468
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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, the part of that song where he says

469
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<v Speaker 7>behind the door, you have two choices, but you don't

470
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<v Speaker 7>get to choose. You can survive or you can die.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Either way you lose.

472
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yep, what it is.

473
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<v Speaker 5>There's hole hit, folks.

474
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<v Speaker 7>That's what it's for us, to keep us arguing with

475
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<v Speaker 7>each other while you know they keep going to the bank.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

477
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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Jimmy hung up, But but I do have the

478
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<v Speaker 2>standwich or the soup.

479
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<v Speaker 5>At the end of the day, you've got species on

480
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<v Speaker 5>your breath.

481
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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Look like I said, Jimmy hung up,

482
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<v Speaker 1>But I still got Danny on hold. So I'm gonna

483
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<v Speaker 1>drop Danny back into this conversation. Let the three you

484
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<v Speaker 1>just chat a bit if you don't mind, and you know,

485
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<v Speaker 1>we'll just let it roll. And again, anybody else wants

486
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<v Speaker 1>to join in three one nine, five, two seven five

487
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<v Speaker 1>zero one six. Uh, it's uh oh, look at that

488
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes past ten. Uh so we are into the

489
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>after hours portion of the show, kind of sort.

490
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<v Speaker 5>Where's Aaron and Uncle. I'm kind of like just showing

491
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<v Speaker 5>up tonight, So I didn't know what happened or if

492
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<v Speaker 5>they're coming in later or what's going on with Aaron

493
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<v Speaker 5>and Uncle.

494
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<v Speaker 1>It looks like tonight they're not going to be on uh,

495
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.279
<v Speaker 1>but they'll be back next week. It just uh, I

496
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 1>think he had to go out to Landers uh for

497
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<v Speaker 1>some reason. So uh so, yeah, no Aaron Uncle tonight.

498
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<v Speaker 1>So we'll just run a little lover.

499
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<v Speaker 5>Got a call, You oughta call, or youatta text him

500
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<v Speaker 5>and say call into the round table.

501
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<v Speaker 4>We can do a round table.

502
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<v Speaker 5>They call in anyway, Well I already said happy thinking

503
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<v Speaker 5>on my part, but a sorry Chuck, no no problem.

504
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I sent him. I sent him a message on X

505
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<v Speaker 1>and told him he should call in. But you know,

506
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's I don't know if he saw

507
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it or whatever. You know, sometimes he's busy with the

508
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>family out there, and it's only if it's ten o'clock here,

509
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's seven pm for him. He might be having dinner.

510
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Yeah, it's dinner time.

511
00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.240
<v Speaker 1>We were there for sure, So anyway, it is what

512
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it is. But all of you, let's see regular Joe,

513
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Danny from California, and spent Canner all on the line

514
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So there you go. I'll just

515
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>step back. But like I said, anybody wants to join

516
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 1>three one nine, five, two seven five zero one six. Also,

517
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<v Speaker 1>Be Pete's been kind of quiet throughout this mostly, you know,

518
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Be Pete. I don't know, man, what can I say?

519
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I have a different attitude about a lot

520
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. But I'm just letting these guys roll

521
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>with it tonight. What do you think, Well, roll it's people.

522
00:27:47.440 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Let them roll with it.

523
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Get the perspective out there. But you know, I'm like you,

524
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of fed up with all of it, Bob,

525
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:56.799
<v Speaker 3>waiting for something to happen, to get some of this

526
00:27:56.920 --> 00:27:58.079
<v Speaker 3>crop off the headline.

527
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>That's why I'd really like if anybody wants to read

528
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>an article, I definitely put up something quite unique on

529
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.599
<v Speaker 1>the front page at Ochelli dot Com. So it's a

530
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<v Speaker 1>part of the Weekly Reader series which comes out now.

531
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And what did I title the thing? Creative Writing and

532
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<v Speaker 1>co Intel Pro twenty twenty five Poetry in Motion Capture

533
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>generation X. Anyway, here we are a question though.

534
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<v Speaker 3>Just recently they released what was a thousand documents on RFK.

535
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<v Speaker 3>Have you heard anything any big finds or anything going

536
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<v Speaker 3>out of that.

537
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I've started going through some of it. I'm not done,

538
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 1>but some of it's just some memos communicating stuff about

539
00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:51.559
<v Speaker 1>the local investigation. There's things that people like myself who

540
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>did do deep research, had our hands on some years ago,

541
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think was available to a lot of

542
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>the people in the country unless they went out of

543
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>their way go get it. The autopsy photos are now

544
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>in that collection at the National Archives. But yeah, good, Sorry,

545
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought somebody was trying to say something, but they

546
00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 1>added rf autopsy photos. That's new to me and was

547
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>very hard to get hold of. Only a handful of

548
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>people I ever knew ever saw those before. But the

549
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>majority of what I've seen thus far, outside of a

550
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of communication memos at the federal level, is nothing

551
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>new if you were a deep dive researcher into this

552
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.119
<v Speaker 1>stuff in the nineties, even but I don't think it

553
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was available to people. It definitely wasn't made available online

554
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>very much. I mean, Mary Ferrell has a collection and

555
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 1>I bet that a lot of it is duplicated from

556
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>there one way or another so far, but there may

557
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>be things in there I haven't seen yet. I am

558
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 1>not done with my my look see my read through

559
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.359
<v Speaker 1>if you will. So that's what I know so far.

560
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 1>And they just released I think yesterday a pile of stuff.

561
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.599
<v Speaker 1>But there's been three releases this year, I think on

562
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the RFK so far. Nothing on MLK really yet. But

563
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>RFK we got three three different document dumps, and I

564
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>think there was like a thousand PDFs yesterday maybe, so

565
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<v Speaker 1>I'm not done going through them. That's the short answer.

566
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<v Speaker 1>B Pete. Sorry, Hey, is everybody with me? I put

567
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you guys to sleep with that. I'm sorry.

568
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<v Speaker 2>I'm listening.

569
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<v Speaker 1>First.

570
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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Kent, my condolences with your father. Sounds

571
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<v Speaker 2>like you had a great, great life.

572
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 5>And thank you.

573
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>You're welcome here. And and Joe, it's good to hear

574
00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 2>your voice. And sorry Jimmy left. I know a lot

575
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 2>of people will not agree with me. I'm used to

576
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.119
<v Speaker 2>it said. I only wish the best for you and

577
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:06.839
<v Speaker 2>I want you to thrive so and solve it at that,

578
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm optimistic. I believe we can have a better future

579
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 2>if we just just kind of have the right get

580
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 2>the right things going.

581
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.119
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's definitely the attitude people need to start thinking,

582
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, like, hey, let's let's try to do something better.

583
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, start with ourselves.

584
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>It's really what really, what I want? Really what I want.

585
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>That's sort of the place I'm coming from. I've just

586
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.240
<v Speaker 2>been at it a long time, you know, and I

587
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 2>don't expect expect people to group and it's had, you know,

588
00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:38.079
<v Speaker 2>So I'm fine with with Jimmy there.

589
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I hear you. And you know another thing about these

590
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>file releases and everything. Look, we're going to have issues

591
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 1>here because the people that are in charge of stuff,

592
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 1>and I do mean everybody at NARRA all the way

593
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to Telsey Gabbard don't know what the hell they're actually

594
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.519
<v Speaker 1>looking for or looking at when it comes to this stuff.

595
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean even recently she admitted publicly that she's using

596
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 1>AI programs to ask it what she should be looking for. Okay, yeah, sorry.

597
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 2>But sorry to interrupt, but they just thought of something.

598
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.119
<v Speaker 2>I did hear some testimony and it was a very

599
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.799
<v Speaker 2>young physician that was in the the Dallas room with Kennedy,

600
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.319
<v Speaker 2>and he was pretty much what I heard him saying.

601
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 2>He said it was pretty much he felt the forensics

602
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<v Speaker 2>that was the front shot. I was that correctly. He

603
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>was pretty adamant. I mean I didn't watch the but

604
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 2>I heard the clip.

605
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh no, I watched that whole thing, and yes,

606
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that physician believes that I would temper that presentation that

607
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.039
<v Speaker 1>he gave because look, the reality is, they asked those

608
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.319
<v Speaker 1>people there. They should have been asking him about what

609
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>they personally witnessed and personally knew that guy. I'm not

610
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.359
<v Speaker 1>saying and he's wrong, but he goes into a whole

611
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 1>thing where you know, now he's describing things and giving

612
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>his theory on what happened based on what he saw.

613
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but that's not really I would not accept

614
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 1>that personally, because I would accept his observations directly about

615
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.799
<v Speaker 1>what he saw, what he experienced in trauma room one.

616
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, there were many positions that were

617
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>involved in that and his testimony about the life saving

618
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 1>efforts and all that. This is recording JFK, mind you,

619
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>but BP had asked about RFK, the JFK stuff you're

620
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.599
<v Speaker 1>talking about. Though. Now you have a guy who is

621
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<v Speaker 1>a doctor, though, who's giving you forensic explanations and things

622
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that do require some knowledge of ballistics and everything else

623
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that he's tying into his personal theory. And that becomes

624
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 1>a problem when some of these people are interviewed a

625
00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>few times. Is now they're trying to give you their

626
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>solution to the case, as opposed to giving you testimony

627
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 1>about what it is they have personal knowledge and expertise about.

628
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>And so therefore I temper what it is you heard

629
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<v Speaker 1>from that guy in my mind with that idea, this

630
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 1>is a guy giving explanations that require a few different disciplines.

631
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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile, he was a doctor and at the time

632
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>was like a doctor in training because Parkland Hospital was

633
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 1>a training hospital. He was a young guy in training,

634
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 1>not yet a doctor at that time, but was involved.

635
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<v Speaker 1>And I've spoken to more than one of those people

636
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<v Speaker 1>that worked in that hospital. The best one was Bob McClellan.

637
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<v Speaker 1>Was the best guy who gave me the most information.

638
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<v Speaker 1>And there was a guy who if you spoke to

639
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<v Speaker 1>him and you asked him the right questions, he very

640
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>much would stick to what he personally knew and observed.

641
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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of times, whether it's this guy or

642
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>an X ray technician, or somebody was a driver or

643
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 1>a secret service agent or anybody who was in proximity

644
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 1>to this case. A lot of times, you know, their expertise,

645
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>their direct involvement, their witness in history is contaminated a

646
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of times by now they're presenting to you their solution,

647
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>their theory. Now at the same time, I'll tell you

648
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 1>that I'm satisfied that there was at least one shot

649
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>from the front, but not based on his testimony. And

650
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I would not put a lot of stock into that

651
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>because this is a yeah, because this is a guy

652
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>who it's sort of like a cop. Think of it

653
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>this way, like if there's a cop who was in

654
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>on the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald, he could tell

655
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:49.159
<v Speaker 1>you all about that, but if he didn't conduct an

656
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:53.159
<v Speaker 1>investigation and go into his background and everything else, and

657
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:56.559
<v Speaker 1>then he's telling you about his background, his previous experience,

658
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>he defected to the Soviet Union and everything else. Meanwhile,

659
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>it's a guy like McDonald who literally did participate in

660
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the direct arrest of Oswald in the movie Theater. I

661
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 1>don't take a lot of this other stuff about his

662
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>background very seriously. This is like a beat cop, not

663
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:17.599
<v Speaker 1>an investigator. So he's got as much of an investigative

664
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>chance as anybody else, except again, he's a cop. He

665
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 1>might be good at observing things. He might be you know,

666
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.639
<v Speaker 1>fully adequate and you know, be completely up to speed

667
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>regarding his job. But his job was to be a cop,

668
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and his experience and his part of history he witnessed

669
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>is not all about Oswald's background. You know. That's the

670
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that he did research on later. And

671
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>these are the things you got to keep in mind.

672
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I brought up Tulca Gabbert, who is

673
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.159
<v Speaker 1>you know right now, she's the head, you know, the

674
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 1>head for intelligence there, but she's somebody who is not

675
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 1>familiar enough with these files to even know what to

676
00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 1>look for. So she's practically asking, you know, chat GP

677
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>what she should be looking for. Regarding the Kennedy files,

678
00:37:04.039 --> 00:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>she admitted that it's not like I'm trying to bash

679
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>her over it. I'm saying that the majority of people

680
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>in government, unless they have had experience going through this stuff,

681
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:19.039
<v Speaker 1>are familiar with the case, are familiar with the facts,

682
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.639
<v Speaker 1>are familiar with things that have been revealed, have been investigated,

683
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 1>have not been investigated, etc. Etc. They stand virtually no

684
00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>chance of navigating and getting to Oh, they're going to

685
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>find all the bombshells. They're going to dig up all

686
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 1>the dirt. If they don't know where the dirt is,

687
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>how are they going to know even where to dig? So,

688
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to temper what you're seeing coming

689
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>out of these things with that understanding, that expectation, and

690
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:51.079
<v Speaker 1>that idea about what's realistically being presented. I'm sorry. I

691
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:53.599
<v Speaker 1>know it's a sober point of view to have, and

692
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>some people say, oh, you're just being political about it.

693
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. This is an objective point of view here.

694
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving you You've got to be realistic about the source,

695
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.559
<v Speaker 1>the level of experience and the expertise of the people

696
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 1>that are now involved in the circumstance. That's why I'm not,

697
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, all angry with Luna and everybody else who's like, oh,

698
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 1>they didn't do a good job, they didn't do this.

699
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little irritated with the jerks who's decided to

700
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>politically grandstand during that hearing. And by the way, it

701
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 1>came from both sides, because you know, the Republican we

702
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 1>need to kiss Trump's ass. We need to kiss Trump's

703
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>ass because he brought this into he made this happen

704
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 1>kissed Trump's ass, and then the other side is going, oh,

705
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know, we're the Democrats and we're gonna whind

706
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>about Trump here and bah bah bah. And meanwhile, you're

707
00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:44.239
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be there for the purposes of disclosure and

708
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.559
<v Speaker 1>making some progress about putting into the hands of the

709
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>American public the evidence that you know, if you believe

710
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.199
<v Speaker 1>your taxpayer's pay your tax dollars pay for this stuff,

711
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 1>guess what you paid for it. You own it, it's yours,

712
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 1>it should belong to you, and it's all also your history.

713
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's a little different than trying to

714
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:09.760
<v Speaker 1>make a political you know, a point score, you know

715
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>there on TV because you have the opportunity and let

716
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.320
<v Speaker 1>me score points on my opponents. It's not about your

717
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 1>opponents and Democrats and Republicans of today. It's about history,

718
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's about getting to the bottom of something that

719
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 1>was not properly investigated in the first place and has

720
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:31.599
<v Speaker 1>been undeniably covered up by the government that you people

721
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:36.119
<v Speaker 1>work for ever after. So you know, they need to

722
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 1>get some focus and not be sitting there trying to

723
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>score political points on c SPAN and get down to

724
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the business of getting it done. And part of that

725
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>is letting a guy like that doctor run on about

726
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.280
<v Speaker 1>his theory and his thesis that he's come up with

727
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>instead of just talking to him about Listen, what did

728
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.559
<v Speaker 1>you know? What did you see?

729
00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>What did you do?

730
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Where is your witness to history statement that we need

731
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to put on the record, you know? And that's why

732
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit eh. You know, it's like, I see,

733
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:13.159
<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing that the guy got to testify.

734
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.079
<v Speaker 1>It was good that Abraham Bolden got to testify despite

735
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 1>the audio issues. It's good that we heard from Morley

736
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:23.519
<v Speaker 1>and Roger Stone before that. And I'm making a joke

737
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>there because it was Oliver Stone and Bobert turned around

738
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and couldn't figure out the difference between Roger and Oliver

739
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.559
<v Speaker 1>Stone because she was trying to score political points too.

740
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:39.119
<v Speaker 1>But even if you take Tulcy Gabbertt at face value

741
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and you think that her intentions are all absolutely on

742
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the up and up, here's the thing. She doesn't possess

743
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the knowledge required to even dig into this and know

744
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 1>what she should be looking for. So, you know, the

745
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>people that got outraged, why is she asking Ai where

746
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to find stuff? Because she's got to ask somebody and

747
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 1>they're not reaching out to people who actually have knowledge

748
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 1>on the case except for Morley a little bit, and

749
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that's it. They're only going to like him and you know,

750
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a couple of other approved individuals who have a high profile,

751
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 1>and really they need to dig a little deeper if

752
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they actually want to get something done. Now, if this

753
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>is just meant to score political points and make the

754
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Trump administration look good, probably mission's been accomplished, which means

755
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to see much more else than we

756
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>already have. And maybe with a little luck, we'll get

757
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 1>a little bit out of the King thing, because that's

758
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 1>still not been done. But RFK, if you were a

759
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>deep researcher and you had dug into the you know,

760
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:43.559
<v Speaker 1>the actual archives in California already, if you'd been to

761
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento and gone through that stuff, if you had actually,

762
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, done Foyer requests before for the legitimate material,

763
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you would have seen ninety percent of what's been released

764
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>outside of those autopsy files. Be pete, that's the only

765
00:41:57.599 --> 00:42:02.079
<v Speaker 1>new thing thus far. And if you men communications from

766
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the federal government about you know, hey, what about the

767
00:42:05.480 --> 00:42:09.159
<v Speaker 1>involvement of people that were maybe connected to this? Should

768
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>we talk to LA. Does LA need federal assistance with

769
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>their investigation, because remember it was the Los Angeles Police

770
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Department that handled it. It was their detectives Special units, Senator,

771
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, that actually did this, and they're the people

772
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 1>who conducted the investigation in the first day. Place. Now

773
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>we have some CIA communications about a couple of things,

774
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's not really earth shattering or stuff that wasn't

775
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>known before. So no smoking guns and really nothing smoking

776
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>at all so far out of the file dumps that

777
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 1>I've seen. Maybe I've missed some things, but I'm not

778
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 1>done going through it. So there you go, complete answer

779
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and also an answer to what you asked, Danny. But

780
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>it is remarkable, but it's you know, again, it's like

781
00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the hyperbolic truth, right, people that want to sell rated

782
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>as if oh my god, it's an earth shattering disclosure. Wrong,

783
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.760
<v Speaker 1>it's also not, oh my god, it's another bunch of

784
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy crap that they're putting out there to distract us

785
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 1>because of the Epstein files. No, it's really not. It's

786
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:17.039
<v Speaker 1>just it's a lack of knowledge and a lack of

787
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 1>experience that is steering things to not get done as

788
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:23.199
<v Speaker 1>well as they could.

789
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Be, right, you know, I asked another question about that.

790
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Sure there are there any of the doctors or any

791
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>previous that collaborate what he was testifying about besides all

792
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:42.840
<v Speaker 2>his his adding, you know his, you know his over

793
00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:44.119
<v Speaker 2>the overarching question.

794
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, there have been there have been various doctors

795
00:43:47.320 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 1>who were at Parkland who have given oral histories and testimonies.

796
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:53.639
<v Speaker 1>And there's a couple of documentaries out there if you

797
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>want a list of them where you can get a

798
00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.840
<v Speaker 1>good idea of a bunch of what those doctors saw

799
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and her and some of the older ones, some of

800
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the ones that have now passed away. William Law did

801
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>did a great DVD or Blu Ray I should say

802
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Blu Ray called the Gathering where he brought together a

803
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>bunch of medical witnesses including X ray technicians from Bethesda

804
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.599
<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of people and some of the doctors

805
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 1>from Parkland all together to have a meeting and discuss it.

806
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.800
<v Speaker 1>There was a recent documentary on Paramount, you know, the

807
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Paramount plus platform, and it's something like JFK What the

808
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Doctors Saw, which is yet another group of doctors telling

809
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you about what they saw in Parkland that day. And

810
00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>in addition, there you go and In addition, there was

811
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 1>a videotape in like nineteen eighty one or eighty two,

812
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:53.039
<v Speaker 1>I think, put out by David Lifton, which was titled

813
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 1>just like his book, called Best Evidence. And there are

814
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.119
<v Speaker 1>many doctors on there, along with some other wit. It

815
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>says some of the nurses, Audrey Bell, et cetera. And

816
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 1>you can get a lot of what they had to say, uh,

817
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.039
<v Speaker 1>presented to you that way. And some of this stuff

818
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>is also available on YouTube. But the new documentary on

819
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Paramount not yet. And that other one, the William William

820
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Law thing, I think part of it's up on YouTube.

821
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 1>But very few of us bought any of the d

822
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>v of the Blu Rays. Excuse me that that came out.

823
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I have one, but I know like almost nobody else

824
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 1>that owns one. But anyway, it's but there is information

825
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and interviews out there that have been conducted by people,

826
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 1>and they are interesting. Doctor Carrico again, the guy that

827
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 1>that I spoke to, Bob McClellan. There's uh what Pepper,

828
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Dear God be Pete help me out with some of

829
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:56.199
<v Speaker 1>these doctor names, Uh, Pepper Jenkins, right, Nurse Audrey Bell,

830
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>these people, a lot of them you could look up

831
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.159
<v Speaker 1>up on YouTube and they've given oral histories. And here's

832
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>another weird thing. Some of them gave oral histories to

833
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.199
<v Speaker 1>the sixth Floor Museum in Dallas, Texas. And sometimes you

834
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>can get just a kind of unfettered oral history from

835
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.800
<v Speaker 1>some of these people, uh there, and they sell some

836
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of those things on DV Day and some of them

837
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 1>are displayed at the six Floor Museum if you ever go.

838
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 11>I've been to the sixth Floor Museum. I spent several

839
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 11>hours in there. Don't I didn't buy anything, and I

840
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 11>didn't I didn't know anything was available. So if I

841
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 11>go to Dallas again, I'll.

842
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Check it out. Yeah.

843
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>The hint is the bookstore. They have a bookstore down

844
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 1>on a lower floor, and they have a whole other

845
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>one across the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's who I bought my tickets. That's why I bought

847
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 2>my tickets. And then I was able. I got up

848
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>there and there was a line in there, and I

849
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 2>the line because I had my ticket already bought.

850
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of like hit it right right, and

851
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.519
<v Speaker 1>there's a and the other thing is across the street,

852
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:00.519
<v Speaker 1>and what they call the Dall Tax Building is another bookstore.

853
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>So they have like, yeah, they have like two bookstores

854
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 1>right there in the plaza and they have a variety

855
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 1>of books and JFK related all kinds of stuff about

856
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:17.079
<v Speaker 1>his presidency, about the assassination, about Dallas, so on. And

857
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that, you know, I'm in love with

858
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the place because it is the you know, the low

859
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Nut Theory museum. But you know, information is good and

860
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the bookstore is stocked, you know, so UH got to

861
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 1>be honest. Anyway, I'm sorry. I probably bored spent Kent

862
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and regular Joe to death here telling them this stuff.

863
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 5>But listen, I just like, you know, that's just one

864
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 5>of the dots connected through the bigger thing that's actually

865
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.199
<v Speaker 5>going on, from the powers that be and everything. That's

866
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 5>just one of the very important dots you know when

867
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:52.599
<v Speaker 5>you connect them.

868
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it just so happens. It's one of those

869
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>areas that I spent a lot of time on. But

870
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't have to.

871
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would do to you or like any type

872
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 5>of you know, understanding of what happened. I don't know.

873
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't have the facts, but guess what I say this,

874
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't believe the official story. Nope, you just like

875
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:14.360
<v Speaker 5>nine to eleven, I don't believe.

876
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:15.079
<v Speaker 4>The official story.

877
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.559
<v Speaker 5>There's somethings. They are always going on, all of these

878
00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:21.039
<v Speaker 5>guys and they're you know, they're smart, they're smart, and

879
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 5>they can get away with stuff, and they have and

880
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 5>we've investigated ourselves and we find ourselves not guilty, you know.

881
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 5>And it's and it's the people just saying, oh, there's

882
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 5>nothing we can do about it. We got That's that's

883
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 5>how they get away with it. And it goes back

884
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 5>to the philosophy of what me and like regular Joe

885
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:48.800
<v Speaker 5>understand is the belief that they there's some authority over

886
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.800
<v Speaker 5>you that you have to do. This stuff is actually fake.

887
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 5>It's not real, but it's in your own minds. If

888
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.519
<v Speaker 5>you step outside the box, break the box, fist on it,

889
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 5>set it on fire, fists on it again. You start

890
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 5>looking around, you'll feel good and happy, and you know

891
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:05.519
<v Speaker 5>there's people there waiting for you.

892
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh why, like me and Joe, there you go, uh

893
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:15.920
<v Speaker 2>And I put the argue that.

894
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.280
<v Speaker 5>The criminals, so I'll go ahead, go ahead, whoever.

895
00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I just want to let I just want

896
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to let this be known really really fast. Here is

897
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that I put a link in the chatroom, thelive chatroom

898
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Atochelli dot com if you want to look at the

899
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 1>r f K file releases from this year. I put

900
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the the dot gov link in the room there. If

901
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to go. You can download the PDFs and

902
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the files yourself straight from there if you like. I

903
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 1>urge everybody to do your own research. If you are

904
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 1>so inclined anyway, Sorry, go ahead, Joe, Yeah, what can't

905
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:48.519
<v Speaker 1>just said?

906
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 7>Was profound?

907
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:52.000
<v Speaker 3>That that that test me, that that really did.

908
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:53.559
<v Speaker 7>There there are people there.

909
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.639
<v Speaker 9>Waiting for you, and and there are uh, there are

910
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 9>your people are there and hopefully hopefully they have become

911
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:07.599
<v Speaker 9>real people instead of just you know, going along with

912
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 9>talking points, asking your own questions, instead of just being

913
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 9>fed the answers all the time.

914
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 1>And there are not too many of them living making Georgia.

915
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you that I'm still trying to move

916
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>somewhere where, like I got one or two people local

917
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.719
<v Speaker 1>to me that you know, are like my people, because

918
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.119
<v Speaker 1>I need to move somewhere like that didn't move the

919
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 1>family there, But I can't seem to find a good

920
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.280
<v Speaker 1>landing spot that I can afford. And uh, I'll never

921
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to live in Jersey again. It's it's way

922
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:39.559
<v Speaker 1>way out of my freaking unless I somehow come across

923
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 1>a great, great job somewhere, which, by the way, I'm

924
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 1>accepting offers, so you know, email me if you've got

925
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>a great job for me or a good cheap place

926
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:50.599
<v Speaker 1>to live, let me know. And a blind JFPA researcher

927
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com. I am accepting offers. Thank you anyway,

928
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>So what else is? Is there anything else on your

929
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>guys mind? So you want to continue on about finding

930
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:02.800
<v Speaker 1>your people for a couple of.

931
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 10>Minutes, Well, if I may, I'm like to extend a

932
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:10.840
<v Speaker 10>figby to Jimmy James, because I know I was rough

933
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 10>on him, but I just simply cannot understand.

934
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:18.000
<v Speaker 7>The passion about people who want us all dead. I mean,

935
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:21.840
<v Speaker 7>I can't understand that. Why why be so passionate and

936
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:24.480
<v Speaker 7>attack somebody that might just be your brother.

937
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:29.159
<v Speaker 1>For people that just don't give a damn Why?

938
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I indubiably listening, I hear you.

939
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:37.840
<v Speaker 1>But in defense of Jimmy James, honestly, and I know

940
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>this is going to sound strange coming from me, but

941
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 1>in defensive.

942
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Big Leaf, I meant olive branch Bran, I know.

943
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.719
<v Speaker 1>That we're not looking to cover up his crash with

944
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a leaf. I got you. You you want to give

945
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 1>the olive branch, I get it. But the point is Joe,

946
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:56.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, I hate it that he gets so angry

947
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:01.280
<v Speaker 1>because he has a right to his anger, because he

948
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>feels screwed over, just like all of us did at

949
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:07.519
<v Speaker 1>certain points here where you know, we grew up with

950
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.559
<v Speaker 1>an idea. Somebody gave us an idea about this country,

951
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 1>what it was going to offer us, what it offered everybody,

952
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I got it pounded into my head

953
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.800
<v Speaker 1>because I'm only a second generation, you know, born here,

954
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and Italian immigrants are probably the most freaking insanely like

955
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>they were Maga before it was Maga America. You better

956
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 1>not say a bad word about it, because this great

957
00:52:34.920 --> 00:52:40.920
<v Speaker 1>country offered us, you know, safety, opportunity, everything, Everything is

958
00:52:41.039 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 1>handed to you in America. It is such a great place.

959
00:52:44.239 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 1>And I also got some Irish you know immigrants there

960
00:52:48.280 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 1>also only two generations away, so they came from somewhere

961
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.079
<v Speaker 1>else where. They didn't feel welcome anymore in their own land.

962
00:52:55.760 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And this country is this beacon of shining light to

963
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>my grandparents, you know what I mean. It is an

964
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.679
<v Speaker 1>amazing place. And yeah, I got some relatives that maybe

965
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, went into different businesses and such before that.

966
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:15.559
<v Speaker 1>But the regular working guys among my family line are like,

967
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, they serve. Every generation served in the military.

968
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Multiple guys volunteered or you know, nobody had to be drafted.

969
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Everybody volunteered, and ever since we got here, they made

970
00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 1>sure to do that because they owe it to the

971
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>great opportunity, the safety, the goodness that was given to

972
00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 1>their families. In their minds, they are of heart, seriously

973
00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:45.199
<v Speaker 1>patriotic people and they tell you this is the greatest

974
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:47.880
<v Speaker 1>place in the world. You got to understand that. And

975
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>they will not tolerate somebody telling them otherwise. And the

976
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:56.159
<v Speaker 1>reason is because they truly believe it. And when you

977
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 1>experience something different from what it is that they said,

978
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 1>and you start getting kicked around. And Jimmy did serve

979
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:06.360
<v Speaker 1>his country too, he was in the military. I don't

980
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 1>know the details of it, but a lot of guys

981
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:12.880
<v Speaker 1>who have served and then they get the reality check

982
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:17.760
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't expect from the circumstance and they find

983
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:20.920
<v Speaker 1>out certain things, they feel screwed. They look for somebody

984
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.119
<v Speaker 1>to blame, and you know what, in a way I

985
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:26.480
<v Speaker 1>can see exactly how it is. He sees that it's

986
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the liberals to blame for destroying because to his mind,

987
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 1>they're the people that wrecked it. They're the people who

988
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:37.559
<v Speaker 1>have made it, you know, all anything but that thing

989
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>that it should have could have would have been. And

990
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that's the total of his emotions, but

991
00:54:43.599 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that's part of the psychology there, and he's

992
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:48.239
<v Speaker 1>got a right to his anger because he feels, guess what,

993
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:52.079
<v Speaker 1>lied to and betrayed, and a lot of us feel

994
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:56.039
<v Speaker 1>that way. I feel that way, and I wasn't serve

995
00:54:56.079 --> 00:54:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in the military, and a lot of military guys I've

996
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 1>known have felt that way. And frankly, again, I know

997
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>this is me taking away too personal, but you know,

998
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 1>my father absolutely felt that way, that he was completely betrayed,

999
00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 1>and he was all about, you know, I'm there to

1000
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 1>serve a good purpose and I'm doing the right thing

1001
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:18.559
<v Speaker 1>because communism is this evil. He thought he was fighting

1002
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 1>communism in Vietnam in nineteen sixty eight for God's sake,

1003
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, And when he got received as he did

1004
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and got a different taste of reality coming back here,

1005
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:34.840
<v Speaker 1>it was too much. Plus the reality he got over

1006
00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 1>there going through the circumstance and having to do what

1007
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:40.119
<v Speaker 1>he had to do. And you know, some people will

1008
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:42.000
<v Speaker 1>judge me and say, oh, yeah, but your father took

1009
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:44.039
<v Speaker 1>the cowage way out because he killed himself and this

1010
00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:47.079
<v Speaker 1>and that. But that was a man who felt betrayed

1011
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 1>and just absolutely left behind and trapped into an ugliness

1012
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that he did under what he felt was false pretenses.

1013
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.679
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm not saying and you know understand

1014
00:56:01.800 --> 00:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that or you know, because a lot of people go, oh,

1015
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.480
<v Speaker 1>your father was just a you know, a week piece

1016
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.280
<v Speaker 1>of shit because he just couldn't handle things, and you know,

1017
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:13.360
<v Speaker 1>he didn't have the toughness that he should have had

1018
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.440
<v Speaker 1>going into the military. Okay, if that's how you want

1019
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:18.800
<v Speaker 1>to see it, fine, But I think it was just

1020
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.679
<v Speaker 1>you're betrayed, you're trapped, you're damaged. Sometimes, you know what,

1021
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:26.440
<v Speaker 1>some people decide they don't want to be here anymore,

1022
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and that's what he did. So I'm just saying, and

1023
00:56:29.519 --> 00:56:30.440
<v Speaker 1>you're not the only one.

1024
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.400
<v Speaker 5>To this day, every day to this day, to this minute,

1025
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 5>to this hour is just happening with Vetts.

1026
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know that too.

1027
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.480
<v Speaker 5>So unor percent, his dad is nothing more than a

1028
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 5>human being sent over to do stupid shit for billionaires

1029
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:51.239
<v Speaker 5>to profit on. It's it's there as the last war

1030
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:54.800
<v Speaker 5>that was defense of this country, World War two.

1031
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I can understand the I can understand being

1032
00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 7>angry about being screwed over, but I can't understand defending

1033
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 7>passionately the people that.

1034
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Did it to you. But the thing is, in his mind,

1035
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.559
<v Speaker 1>these people are countering the people that did it to him,

1036
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and as far as he's concerned, these are the people

1037
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:17.199
<v Speaker 1>that are ruining, have ruined, and are the ruiners of

1038
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 1>what was good about this country. He thinks it's all

1039
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:23.679
<v Speaker 1>on that side of the equation. I'm just saying. I'm

1040
00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.000
<v Speaker 1>not trying to say I agree. I'm just trying to

1041
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 1>say that there are some people who go, you know what,

1042
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:33.320
<v Speaker 1>there's the saviors, there's the enemy, and that's all there

1043
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:38.079
<v Speaker 1>is to it, you know. And I gotta say, I can't,

1044
00:57:38.760 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, dissuade him, and you know, there's no way

1045
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:44.119
<v Speaker 1>to dissuade him from that. It's just it is the

1046
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>way it is. And I think, you know, again, I'm

1047
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>defending him. I hope he understands that and doesn't get

1048
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.159
<v Speaker 1>all pissed at me for what I'm saying. No, I'm

1049
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.519
<v Speaker 1>not trying to even speak for him. I'm just saying

1050
00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that that's probably what I would feel if I was him,

1051
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 1>and that's what it sounds like. Now. If I'm wrong, cool,

1052
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'll take correction from jam Me any which way.

1053
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's necessary to understand that there's a

1054
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:06.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys like that that are angry because they

1055
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.320
<v Speaker 1>feel as though these are the people.

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00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:16.719
<v Speaker 5>Correct. And and you know, it doesn't help that whatever

1057
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 5>he's getting his for his for his information, you know,

1058
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:26.880
<v Speaker 5>that's he's receiving that he's using his sources are or

1059
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 5>you know, most likely besides Fox, probably Newsmax, probably Epic

1060
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Times on the you know whatever, Uh, you know whatever,

1061
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:37.960
<v Speaker 5>guys are jumping around what they're saying in that herd.

1062
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 5>It's a herd mentality with the Republicans are but guess what,

1063
00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 5>so the Democrats the exact thing, same exact thing. And

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00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 5>it's a big see if you're I and I'm not

1065
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 5>trying to be mean or nothing, but like you're a

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00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 5>conservative Republican or liberal Democrat, you're all just going in circles.

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00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:00.320
<v Speaker 4>You're not You're just you're just.

1068
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.639
<v Speaker 5>Running in circles. Now, the Libertarians and the Progressives are

1069
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:07.280
<v Speaker 5>anti wars. They think more in a bigger scope. So

1070
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:11.639
<v Speaker 5>I do ally myself with progressives and libertarians.

1071
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 4>They're good people.

1072
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:15.280
<v Speaker 5>I like to judge and I like, uh, you know,

1073
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.360
<v Speaker 5>the gray zone. There's there's great uh people out there.

1074
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:23.039
<v Speaker 5>You know it been a journalists. But where I go

1075
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 5>is a step farther. I always wait for people to

1076
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.880
<v Speaker 5>come out and come to the lake of freedom. There's

1077
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.719
<v Speaker 5>one way here's understanding. You have to change your way

1078
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 5>of thinking, and that's how people. You've got to understand

1079
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:35.880
<v Speaker 5>natural rights.

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00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:36.599
<v Speaker 1>That's the main thing.

1081
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 5>Everybody's got the Constitution, the Constitution, the Constitution, we'll get

1082
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:43.559
<v Speaker 5>what the Constitution was built off of natural rights. You've

1083
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:47.599
<v Speaker 5>got to understand. You understand natural rights. You don't need constitutions,

1084
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 5>you don't need government, you don't need a ruling class,

1085
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 5>you don't need any type of mind control. You do

1086
00:59:55.639 --> 01:00:00.719
<v Speaker 5>what you do and you stick your morals. It's it's

1087
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:03.199
<v Speaker 5>almost as simple as doing to others. It's just leave

1088
01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:06.199
<v Speaker 5>it there, you know, Like it's it's such an easy

1089
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:13.119
<v Speaker 5>concept and that that's the path of freedom. That it's like,

1090
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:15.199
<v Speaker 5>don't harm anybody on purpose and help.

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01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Them when you can. Yeah, well that's a that's a

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01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.039
<v Speaker 1>very pagan philosophy. So I understand that quite well.

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01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:26.519
<v Speaker 5>Uh, but you know, there's not only as pagan though.

1094
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:30.880
<v Speaker 5>I would say it goes back probably long before you know,

1095
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:35.119
<v Speaker 5>society with with and I'm not going to bash anybody's religion,

1096
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.960
<v Speaker 5>and we believe whatever religion they want, gods and goddesses

1097
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 5>or whatever, and that includes my Druid friends. Okay, So

1098
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.440
<v Speaker 5>it's not saying that, you know, we can track back,

1099
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, where religion kind of started. He was back

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01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:49.199
<v Speaker 5>to maybe forty thousand.

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01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm not trying to I'm just saying that

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01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I recognize everything. Yeah, I'm just saying. I was just

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01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.679
<v Speaker 1>trying to say I recognize it as part of that

1104
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>because that's what practice, so you know, and people that

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01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:08.079
<v Speaker 1>have known me face to face, No, that is exactly

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01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:11.880
<v Speaker 1>how I behave. I believe in that, and I believe

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01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 1>in the idea of non aggression. Libertarians make me a

1108
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 1>little crazy. Like Murray Sabran is a brilliant guy. I

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01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:20.760
<v Speaker 1>love him and he's you know, he was the only

1110
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:24.559
<v Speaker 1>guy to ever run, you know, on the Libertarian party

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01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:27.199
<v Speaker 1>line in New Jersey for governor. I had him on

1112
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:29.400
<v Speaker 1>the show a while back. You guys might remember him.

1113
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 1>He's a brilliant guy, but he's part of that libertarian

1114
01:01:33.679 --> 01:01:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know heard that kind of believes that everything can

1115
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.440
<v Speaker 1>be solved in the courts. And I got to tell you,

1116
01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't have faith in the courts either. You know,

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01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:46.159
<v Speaker 1>I would have faith in you know, my fellow man

1118
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.800
<v Speaker 1>if I felt as though they thought independently and really

1119
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:54.400
<v Speaker 1>truly believed in the concept of guess what non aggression?

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01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.679
<v Speaker 1>You know, my entire liberty to swing my fist and

1121
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.239
<v Speaker 1>which direction I want ends at the tip of your nose, man,

1122
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's that.

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01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the libertarians and progressors agree with that. They should

1124
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:11.119
<v Speaker 5>on some level.

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01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>They do, but it's just the libertarians are always like, well,

1126
01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.559
<v Speaker 1>that's okay, you can just take them to court if

1127
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.159
<v Speaker 1>they and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. The

1128
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 1>courts are just as corrupt. But look, we could we

1129
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:23.920
<v Speaker 1>could delve into this all night long. But I'll tell

1130
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you what I want to do is get a kind

1131
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:29.119
<v Speaker 1>of a shout out or a closing thought from everybody,

1132
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.199
<v Speaker 1>one at a time, and uh, and then I think

1133
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:34.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna close this one out. Maybe given the final

1134
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 1>word to be pete. After you guys, say what you

1135
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:39.280
<v Speaker 1>got to say, because I wonder what his observations are

1136
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:43.480
<v Speaker 1>about all these conversations tonight, and let's just do that.

1137
01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:48.039
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think should we begin with Smith, Kent,

1138
01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:50.360
<v Speaker 1>bet Pete because I think he was the first one

1139
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.559
<v Speaker 1>on right or yeah.

1140
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh well unless going back, No.

1141
01:02:55.760 --> 01:03:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't joined back, so we go with Kent, right, Yeah, so.

1142
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:03.679
<v Speaker 5>Good, Yeah, that's cool.

1143
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1144
01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:07.800
<v Speaker 5>I love Jimmy James by the way, He's my boy

1145
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:10.920
<v Speaker 5>no matter what. But you know, it is to some

1146
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 5>people like me, maybe Joe, it is really arguing over

1147
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:16.559
<v Speaker 5>what sandwich or which soup you want?

1148
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1149
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:21.800
<v Speaker 5>So, but you know, no offense. I mean, it's just like,

1150
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:25.119
<v Speaker 5>find your way out of there, guys. That's all they Educate. Educate, educate,

1151
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.400
<v Speaker 5>educate educated, educate, Educate yourself. I've been saying this on

1152
01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 5>some radio show or another for the last thirteen years, So,

1153
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, educate yourself. The more you educate, the more

1154
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.119
<v Speaker 5>you can open your mind. You learn, you have knowledge,

1155
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:40.880
<v Speaker 5>you can plant your feet on the ground solid, solidly.

1156
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.679
<v Speaker 5>It's good to hear from Joe again, it's good to

1157
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 5>hear from Everybody's good to hear from BP. And you know,

1158
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:54.599
<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna be around and when I can pop

1159
01:03:54.679 --> 01:03:58.480
<v Speaker 5>in loocause I love everybody and love this show. Chuck Man.

1160
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:01.840
<v Speaker 5>We'll eventually talk some more cashed out business eventually. Just

1161
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.400
<v Speaker 5>let me know, hit me up on messenger or whatever

1162
01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:07.320
<v Speaker 5>you want to do, and uh, lest.

1163
01:04:07.159 --> 01:04:08.960
<v Speaker 11>You guys, I love you, man, I'd love it.

1164
01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:11.079
<v Speaker 5>I wish I had got to talk to Aaron and

1165
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 5>Uncle tonight. That would have been just icing on the cake.

1166
01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Well next week, man, you know, if you're if you're

1167
01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 1>off next Friday, by all means, join us. As far

1168
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:21.760
<v Speaker 1>as that other thing about business or whatever. You you

1169
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:24.079
<v Speaker 1>give me a better idea of what exactly it is

1170
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to do and just send it to me

1171
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and let's just start from there. We'll bat it back

1172
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and forth and figure it out. Man. Okay, yeah, let me.

1173
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:34.280
<v Speaker 5>Let me get a little more you know, adapted into

1174
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:37.480
<v Speaker 5>what's going on with me here. Yeah, with everything that's

1175
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 5>been going on. So but yeah, I definitely you know,

1176
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm there on all that, and uh okay, I did

1177
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 5>want to say, uh, definitely, Uncle, I love it man

1178
01:04:46.800 --> 01:04:50.719
<v Speaker 5>that he wanted to hear from the governor of Minnesota

1179
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 5>that bad and uh, you know, warning, warning, we got

1180
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 5>to find out what's going on with Uncle.

1181
01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Tell them.

1182
01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 5>Spank Kent said, Hey, I sure will, and I love.

1183
01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.079
<v Speaker 1>That too, man, And I'm gonna put you on hold now,

1184
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>but I appreciate you, brother, and uh, you know, I'll

1185
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:08.440
<v Speaker 1>be looking forward to hearing from you some more soon.

1186
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, I love that Uncle thing because

1187
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. We go into Uncle's world for an hour,

1188
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, every week, and it's his world. It's his show,

1189
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and that's what it is. It's kind of like a

1190
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:21.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of performance art, you know, brought to you

1191
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 1>by Aaron because he's the presenter. Really, but we go

1192
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.360
<v Speaker 1>into Uncle's world for an hour and it's a you

1193
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:31.159
<v Speaker 1>know what. It's a special look into a special guy's

1194
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.559
<v Speaker 1>ideas about the way the world works. And I think

1195
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 1>it's actually a refresher and something that can give you

1196
01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:40.800
<v Speaker 1>a reset personally if you laugh along and just kind

1197
01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:43.239
<v Speaker 1>of have fun with it. I think it's a it's

1198
01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:45.599
<v Speaker 1>a unique show. So I've been happy to produce it

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01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.119
<v Speaker 1>now for many years, and I'll be glad to keep

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01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 1>doing it if I can. So u oh, wait a minute,

1201
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it looks like no, wait a minute, Yeah, yeah, I

1202
01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 1>put okay, spent Ken is on hold, and I guess

1203
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that uh brings a sign over to is it regular

1204
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:11.159
<v Speaker 1>Joe's next? Or is it Danny Who's next? B Pete? Well, Joe, okay, Joe. Yeah.

1205
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I always enjoyed being on with you guys.

1206
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Again.

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01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:18.280
<v Speaker 7>I want to really thank Saint Kent for the words

1208
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 7>that touched me that he said earlier, you know, and

1209
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:25.400
<v Speaker 7>I thought that was profound, And I will offer if

1210
01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.639
<v Speaker 7>I have offended Jimmy James, which I imagine I probably did,

1211
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.199
<v Speaker 7>I will offer him my apologies for that due to

1212
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:37.199
<v Speaker 7>my lack of understanding and the passion that he exhibited

1213
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:40.440
<v Speaker 7>for the people I just don't have any faith in.

1214
01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.679
<v Speaker 7>So I'll have to say I don't agree with you

1215
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:51.360
<v Speaker 7>know you're you're blue folks either, But you know I

1216
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 7>don't have to agree. I'm just trying to understand where

1217
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:57.000
<v Speaker 7>the passion comes from, because.

1218
01:06:57.280 --> 01:06:58.800
<v Speaker 2>My passion lies with you people.

1219
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean, People that you.

1220
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:06.519
<v Speaker 7>Can have a rational conversation with and and you don't

1221
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:10.159
<v Speaker 7>have to get ugly or hateful, which I lean towards

1222
01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:16.559
<v Speaker 7>myself tonight. I'm guilty, but you know I recognize that

1223
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 7>at least, and I admit my fault and I hope

1224
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.119
<v Speaker 7>Jimmy James is fine, and I don't wish anything hateful

1225
01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:26.599
<v Speaker 7>towards him, and genuinely love being part of the show.

1226
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:30.039
<v Speaker 7>Genuinely love you Chuck as a person, and just thank

1227
01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:30.440
<v Speaker 7>you guys.

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01:07:31.400 --> 01:07:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I thank you Joe Man. And the feeling is

1229
01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.079
<v Speaker 1>absolutely mutual. And you know, one thing about Jimmy is

1230
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.800
<v Speaker 1>that no matter whether you agree or disagree with him,

1231
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I know he's genuine about it. And that's the thing.

1232
01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I respect him based on that, even if I vehemently disagree,

1233
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.159
<v Speaker 1>I respect the idea that that is truly where he's

1234
01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:53.679
<v Speaker 1>coming from. You know, it's not invented. It's not something

1235
01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:58.119
<v Speaker 1>that he latched onto because you know, he needed a personality.

1236
01:07:59.159 --> 01:08:02.320
<v Speaker 1>He's got a personality for sure. Again, agree with it

1237
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 1>or not, it is his and I think he's genuine

1238
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:08.119
<v Speaker 1>about it. I don't think he's right about a lot

1239
01:08:08.199 --> 01:08:10.599
<v Speaker 1>of things, but I know he's genuine about it, so

1240
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:14.320
<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate him. He knows that. I mean, please,

1241
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely let him on. Sometimes he just yells at

1242
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.840
<v Speaker 1>me it is what it is. But he's angry, and

1243
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he has a right to some of that anger.

1244
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.840
<v Speaker 1>But I wish he wasn't so angry. I wish he

1245
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.000
<v Speaker 1>would get beyond that and think about things in a

1246
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.640
<v Speaker 1>slightly different way. But look, I'm not in control of

1247
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the man, and I don't want to be in control

1248
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:37.319
<v Speaker 1>of another man. So you know, I hope he's not

1249
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:41.039
<v Speaker 1>too angry at all of us tonight. But you know,

1250
01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:43.239
<v Speaker 1>because he's a good guy. I think at the end

1251
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of the day. Anyway, Danny, that brings us to you.

1252
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, well, thank you for putting up with me,

1253
01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:56.439
<v Speaker 2>and let me come on and appreciate it. I come

1254
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 2>from a genuine place for Heartfield. It's just the morality,

1255
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:05.039
<v Speaker 2>my nature and the principle. It's based on the gold rule,

1256
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, caring for others how you want to be treated.

1257
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 2>In as far as me, I try my best never

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<v Speaker 2>to punch down. I punch up. I do highly oppose

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<v Speaker 2>the concentration of wealth and power, and especially the monopolization

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01:09:19.840 --> 01:09:22.159
<v Speaker 2>of it. I want to lift people up from the bottom,

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01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:25.960
<v Speaker 2>up the middle, out those have lost loved ones and everybody.

1262
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:31.760
<v Speaker 2>I just God only knows. Brian Wilson, the beach boys there,

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01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I'll love it right there, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some of us see the wrongs and the

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01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.439
<v Speaker 1>hurt in the world, and some of us want to

1266
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.960
<v Speaker 1>hurt those who hurt people. Some of us wish to

1267
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 1>heal people that have been hurt, and some of us

1268
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:54.920
<v Speaker 1>want to do a little of both. And all of

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01:09:55.079 --> 01:09:58.600
<v Speaker 1>these efforts are valid if you're looking to move things forward.

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01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:02.000
<v Speaker 1>And I kind of leave things in a better condition

1271
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:05.920
<v Speaker 1>than you found them. So again, that's where genuine things

1272
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.119
<v Speaker 1>come from, and that's why I'm happy to hear from people.

1273
01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And again I don't necessarily always agree with Danny and

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01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:13.600
<v Speaker 1>his points of view. They come from a different place

1275
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:15.800
<v Speaker 1>than most of the people who call in listen to

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01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:19.920
<v Speaker 1>the show, and even then my perspective, although sometimes we

1277
01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:23.960
<v Speaker 1>cross paths pretty well and sometimes we intersect nicely, and

1278
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I can intersect with him and Jimmy James on a

1279
01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:30.720
<v Speaker 1>great many topics, oddly enough, because I'm one of those weirdos.

1280
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:34.159
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, be pete with all of that in the books,

1281
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:38.479
<v Speaker 1>it's all on you to give us the final stamp tonight.

1282
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have any thoughts about what

1283
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you heard mostly and participated in, but I'm happy to

1284
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:47.560
<v Speaker 1>call everybody who called in, you know, a friend on

1285
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:50.479
<v Speaker 1>one level or another. To me. Some people I've met

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01:10:50.600 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 1>face to face some people I've hung out with and

1287
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:57.720
<v Speaker 1>even gone to Dallas, Texas with, but others maybe I

1288
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't met him. But still, you know, we're all here

1289
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.720
<v Speaker 1>for the same reason. We all have something to say,

1290
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and we all think that we could add something that

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01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:11.720
<v Speaker 1>will make some sort of progress for someone or something else.

1292
01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:14.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's why it's good to air some of these

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01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 1>things out. And I'm glad we do this on Fridays.

1294
01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I turn it to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in regards to the conversation with Jimmy, I don't

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01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:29.560
<v Speaker 3>think Jimmy's mad. To be honest, I mean, and to

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01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:33.840
<v Speaker 3>speak for veterans, I'm a veteran, so I'm gonna speak

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01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:36.560
<v Speaker 3>on behalf of all of them, and if somebody out

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01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:37.399
<v Speaker 3>there doesn't like them.

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01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:38.279
<v Speaker 4>Then it's just my ass.

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01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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01:11:41.239 --> 01:11:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Guys are serving the military, men and women serving the military.

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01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, they they feel like they at that there

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01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:50.560
<v Speaker 3>in with the bargain, they raise their hand, they did

1305
01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:52.560
<v Speaker 3>what they would, they followed orders, they did what they

1306
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.000
<v Speaker 3>have to do, and then they find out that the

1307
01:11:55.119 --> 01:12:00.159
<v Speaker 3>system it's not holding up. It's under the deal. You know,

1308
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:02.680
<v Speaker 3>we bear a lot of money in this country just

1309
01:12:02.760 --> 01:12:05.279
<v Speaker 3>on stupid things. So we've got veterans out there that

1310
01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:11.560
<v Speaker 3>are having serious issues because they answered the call, they

1311
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:16.319
<v Speaker 3>served their time, not under the best of circumstances in

1312
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:18.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of cases. You know, today's veterans is not

1313
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:20.880
<v Speaker 3>like the vet of the World War two, the war

1314
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:25.680
<v Speaker 3>they were even the Vietnam War, right, So we're diding

1315
01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 3>the different issues. But I think the biggest thing that

1316
01:12:28.840 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 3>that veterans have a problem with is they feel like

1317
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.720
<v Speaker 3>they got short change. They did their part, but the

1318
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:38.079
<v Speaker 3>system's not doing theirs. And it's very disheartening to somebody

1319
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:40.119
<v Speaker 3>that you know, some of these guys put in you know,

1320
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:45.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty years and retired from the military, and.

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01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 1>They just see that.

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01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they see that their efforts wof are not when

1323
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:54.239
<v Speaker 3>they look at the country that they come back to,

1324
01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:00.520
<v Speaker 3>and it's sending. As for the Democrat Republican an argument

1325
01:13:02.600 --> 01:13:06.600
<v Speaker 3>both sides, both sides are not living up to their

1326
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.239
<v Speaker 3>end of the volume. A simple you know, we've we've

1327
01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 3>we've won everybody out of politics. Now it's a two

1328
01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:17.159
<v Speaker 3>party system and that needs to change. The way can

1329
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:19.479
<v Speaker 3>change is start on the local level and working there.

1330
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:23.119
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I have to agree with Jimmy. I

1331
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.720
<v Speaker 3>think the Democratic part of that don't understand why it's

1332
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:27.840
<v Speaker 3>still in existence when you look at their district and

1333
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:31.960
<v Speaker 3>what they've done. I really don't understand that the Republicans,

1334
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:35.880
<v Speaker 3>they're in such dis way right now. I don't know

1335
01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:39.039
<v Speaker 3>what the hell's going on between the magufaction and the

1336
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 3>non Trump Republicans. You know, you're gonna have a bitterer

1337
01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 3>divide there. You know, Trump find out what for years left,

1338
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.039
<v Speaker 3>three and a half years left, he's going to be gone.

1339
01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.239
<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna have to deal with Trump anymore. People

1340
01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:54.560
<v Speaker 3>need to start looking down the road.

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01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:58.239
<v Speaker 1>That's my understanding. But that's my understanding, But there are

1342
01:13:58.279 --> 01:13:59.960
<v Speaker 1>people making noise to the contrary.

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01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, you'd have to know, you would have to

1344
01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 3>have to you'd have to man the constitution for him

1345
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:11.119
<v Speaker 3>to be able to run. That's my thirst thing, and

1346
01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:12.239
<v Speaker 3>that's not going to happen.

1347
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.800
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's my understanding. But you know what, there

1348
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:18.359
<v Speaker 1>are other people out there with a serious face telling

1349
01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:21.439
<v Speaker 1>you differently. You know, one thing I want to just

1350
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.840
<v Speaker 1>add in here real fast, and it's almost an open

1351
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:28.760
<v Speaker 1>question to you, because you know I made a statement there,

1352
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm making a statement on behalf of

1353
01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:33.039
<v Speaker 1>a man that's you know, dead more than forty years.

1354
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:37.279
<v Speaker 1>But you know the reality is this, there are sacrifices

1355
01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that are given there. And you know, you're talking about

1356
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.119
<v Speaker 1>an end of the bargain being held up and this

1357
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and that, and the truth is, that's kind of what

1358
01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I was saying too. There are some people that gave blood.

1359
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:50.640
<v Speaker 1>There are some people that gave parts of their body.

1360
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:52.600
<v Speaker 1>There are others that gay parts of their lives, and

1361
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:56.079
<v Speaker 1>there are some that, in my estimation, gay parts of

1362
01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:59.600
<v Speaker 1>their soul. And that sacrifice was made out of love.

1363
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.479
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, when you come back around and

1364
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you realize that you gave something, whether it's your time,

1365
01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:09.760
<v Speaker 1>you're talking twenty years here, you know, however many years whatever,

1366
01:15:10.279 --> 01:15:12.600
<v Speaker 1>or it's a part of you or all of you.

1367
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, the fact is if you find out they

1368
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't hold up there into the bargain, the system doesn't,

1369
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the people don't, it is a betrayal. And it is

1370
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.720
<v Speaker 1>one of those things that you know, what are you

1371
01:15:25.800 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 1>supposed to say, except that they have a right to

1372
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:34.880
<v Speaker 1>their outrage, their anger and their discontent with it. So

1373
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:38.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, that's all I was trying to say. I

1374
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:40.600
<v Speaker 1>hope it makes sense to you what I was saying,

1375
01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:41.079
<v Speaker 1>that's all.

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01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does, it does. It's lost sous so. I

1377
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:48.159
<v Speaker 3>mean it's a good People make sacrifices, people lose things

1378
01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:54.039
<v Speaker 3>by simply joining the military, whether it's you know, disgrim

1379
01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:58.760
<v Speaker 3>it with family, whether it's economic situation where people join

1380
01:15:58.800 --> 01:16:04.880
<v Speaker 3>the military for a lot of different reasons. And it's

1381
01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:09.479
<v Speaker 3>a good everybody out of everybody should serve, you know,

1382
01:16:09.680 --> 01:16:11.319
<v Speaker 3>that's the way I look at it. I learned more

1383
01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:15.079
<v Speaker 3>just if they're being in the army, and it changed

1384
01:16:15.079 --> 01:16:18.920
<v Speaker 3>the way I looked at a lot of stuff. You know,

1385
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:22.000
<v Speaker 3>we didn't do anything spectacular. We didn't have any real

1386
01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:24.520
<v Speaker 3>wars going on. You know, we won the Cold War.

1387
01:16:26.279 --> 01:16:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh so what that's got us? But you know, people

1388
01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:33.560
<v Speaker 3>make a decision to join, whether it's out of necessity

1389
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:37.760
<v Speaker 3>or whether it's a sense of duty. In your dad's case,

1390
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:39.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there was a draft going on. People didn't

1391
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:41.880
<v Speaker 3>have a choice. They had to go do with the

1392
01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.720
<v Speaker 3>you know what they were forced to do. And it's

1393
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:46.600
<v Speaker 3>messed up a lot of people over the years, you know,

1394
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:50.000
<v Speaker 3>and that's something that the changes in warfare over time.

1395
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.239
<v Speaker 3>We have people going to war now that are coming

1396
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:56.279
<v Speaker 3>back that twenty years ago would not have survived what

1397
01:16:56.439 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 3>they've been through. And it's both of them, both physically,

1398
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.520
<v Speaker 3>mentally and spiritually. And they come back to a country

1399
01:17:03.640 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 3>that say, hey, you know, we made this bargain and

1400
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:08.840
<v Speaker 3>you have up her end of it, but we're gonna

1401
01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:12.359
<v Speaker 3>kind of drop the ball on you. It's very frustrating

1402
01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:14.119
<v Speaker 3>to a lot of people. And I mean, you will

1403
01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:16.399
<v Speaker 3>look at the suicide rate of veterans out there, what

1404
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:18.359
<v Speaker 3>they're having to come back and deal with, and it's

1405
01:17:19.079 --> 01:17:21.760
<v Speaker 3>it can be disheartening, it can restore somebody's whole life.

1406
01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:26.199
<v Speaker 3>So on the stage after where Jimmy's coming from, this

1407
01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:31.760
<v Speaker 3>political game now has gotten I'm wondering that if in

1408
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:36.760
<v Speaker 3>the next three years we see the Democrat Party just

1409
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:40.479
<v Speaker 3>were the pieces. They've gotten nothing, They've got no game

1410
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.039
<v Speaker 3>right now, and I'm wondering if we will see the

1411
01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:46.039
<v Speaker 3>same thing happens with the Republicans in three years. Chris

1412
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Trup's not going to be there either. You know what,

1413
01:17:47.840 --> 01:17:52.720
<v Speaker 3>Jenny Vance is our truce, you know, it's it's the

1414
01:17:52.840 --> 01:17:55.000
<v Speaker 3>stage thought. We get through this next three years and

1415
01:17:55.039 --> 01:17:57.960
<v Speaker 3>then we'll see what happens. But we got many terms

1416
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:01.880
<v Speaker 3>coming next year, they'll see it is there and it's

1417
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:05.319
<v Speaker 3>going to be this partisan back and forth between the

1418
01:18:05.399 --> 01:18:09.560
<v Speaker 3>two parties. So we break the system. Until we change

1419
01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:12.319
<v Speaker 3>the system, they'd be less to be broken to change it.

1420
01:18:12.439 --> 01:18:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, That's the thing is I'm too Yeah,

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01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if progress could be made by the fact that,

1422
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, if both parties end up in disarray, maybe

1423
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that's positive because people would then have to what examine

1424
01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:29.279
<v Speaker 1>individuals and maybe make decisions about not you know, whether

1425
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they got an R or a D in front of

1426
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.600
<v Speaker 1>their name, but how about somebody who's capable of doing

1427
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.359
<v Speaker 1>a job. That would be nice. But anyway, enough of

1428
01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:40.319
<v Speaker 1>my two cents, I'm good. I want to let you just,

1429
01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, finish it out and then we're done.

1430
01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:46.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, other than that, you that's the one thing

1431
01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:48.520
<v Speaker 3>about this group of people that come to their show

1432
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.520
<v Speaker 3>and they enhance these discussions. They may plow each other out,

1433
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:55.439
<v Speaker 3>they're hurt the very next week, each other out of

1434
01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:58.239
<v Speaker 3>room and express their views. You know, I pre say

1435
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:01.800
<v Speaker 3>everybody that calls into the show, I have expressive views.

1436
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.159
<v Speaker 3>It's wet makes it work. We just need to expand

1437
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:10.279
<v Speaker 3>that circle of people to take advantage of the discussion

1438
01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:11.439
<v Speaker 3>and become a.

1439
01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:15.479
<v Speaker 1>Part of it. So hopefully we'll be able to do

1440
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 1>that in the near future. And uh, you know, as

1441
01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 1>per normal. Guess what, I'm gonna close this one out.

1442
01:19:21.479 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 1>It's a little around three hours tonight, which is not bad,

1443
01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:28.479
<v Speaker 1>I think, and hopefully you got something out of it.

1444
01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.439
<v Speaker 1>You listening to it, and you guys are called in

1445
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I I I know that most of you got something

1446
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:35.880
<v Speaker 1>out of it for sure, and uh, I hope that

1447
01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.119
<v Speaker 1>we've done a service in some way. So there it is,

1448
01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, b Pete. I want to thank Joe, Danny, Jimmy,

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01:19:48.880 --> 01:20:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you're young, my fall and the gunners stand in her

1450
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:06.399
<v Speaker 1>wonder up being in a super Boy
