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Speaker 6: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History

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Show on Hudson River Radio, your number one distraction from

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the Epstein Files. I'm Brian Horowitz. We have an interesting topic.

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We're talking about chain stores today, songs that reference like

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actual physical stores. We may have to explain what a

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store is to a certain age demographic play. We'll get

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to that in a minute. Has always allowed me to

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introduce the crembones who are joining us here tonight. First

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and foremost, from the Richter Observatory. He realized that every

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time you clog a toilet, you have exceeded somebody's expectations.

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Neil Richter is back.

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Speaker 7: My own.

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Speaker 6: And from paranormally yours. She tried to take a picture

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of a field of wheat. It was grainy.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Brian, Yes, what do you call a magic dog?

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Speaker 6: Magic dog?

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, a labreka.

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Speaker 6: I mean, hey, sorry, I just that's okay, welcome back

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from the silver screen. She saw a guy walk into

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a bar and ask for a fruit punch. The bartender says, sure,

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just get in line, and the guy looks around, confused

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because there's no punchline. Mercedes Kent is here.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was good, thanks Brian. Hey everybody, and.

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Speaker 6: Last but not least, the host of shaving Cream. She

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was very sad to learn that Sean Connery was never

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able to teach his dog to sit.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, I lost you lost me on that one.

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Speaker 6: Think Sean Connery and how he talks.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, So did you guys know that that many

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people like Coldplay?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that I think a lot more. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: That was the most embarrassing part of that whole thing.

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Speaker 6: That they went to a Coldplay concert.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have never been able to get into cold Play.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they do. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: They just play eighth notes ding ding ding ding ding

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ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

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Speaker 1: Ding And then okay, that is not right up my alley.

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Speaker 6: Yeah mine either, not my thing, but hey, what can

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I say? They're cold Play and we're sitting here recording

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Speaker 1: Yea, so they are geniuses for doing Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 8: And they're laughing all the way to the bank.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, totally yup.

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Speaker 6: So all right, I can't argue with that. I don't

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remember who came up with this week's topic of chain stores,

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and I don't know was it Mercedes, you came up

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with it? Was there something that prompted it or just

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something that kind of absolutely nothing?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea where that came from. And as

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I had trouble coming up with one, but

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then Barbara made her pick and I went, oh, and

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that prompted my pick. But you're gonna have to wait

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and see what what it is. But let's hop in Barbara,

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you're going to lead us off tonight with your inspiration.

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Speaker 2: Tell you.

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Speaker 3: I have to tell you when the reason I came

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been hanging on to it for a while. I was

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researching I think another show or my show or something

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someday came across this by accident and said, I'm gonna

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have to use it when the time is right, and

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when we got to this topic, the time is right.

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Speaker 6: So thank you for that. All right, So.

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Speaker 3: I'll get to my song choice in a moment, but

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first I'd like to talk about the chain store that

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I chose. McDonald's Restaurant is headquartered in Chicago and was

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fat did in San Bernardino, California, in nineteen forty by

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brothers Richard and Maurice McDonald. In nineteen fifty five, businessman

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nineteen sixty one. There are forty thousand restaurants worldwide, and

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it's the second largest employer behind Walmart. In nineteen forty eight,

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the McDonald brothers introduced the speedy service system using the

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fast food principles introduced by Whitecastle over twenty years earlier.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it maybe sound a little less joyous about it too.

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Jes My life.

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Speaker 1: Incidentally, I highly recommend the movie about Ray Kroc. Said

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his name Ray Kroc, right, yes, yeah, yes, it's really good.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Ray Croc.

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Speaker 3: Well, in the early days, when rock and roll was young,

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they used to have restaurants where you would drive up

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and somebody would bring the food out to your car,

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Speaker 7: I do that, really, but yeah, yeah, but I remember

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one such restaurant once and I don't remember the name

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of the restaurant, but I did it once. So when

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they fired all of their car hops, they replaced silverware

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and plates with paper wrappings and cups, eliminating the need

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for a dishwasher. The original mascot, Speedy, was a chef

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with a hamburger for a head. Think about that for

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Speaker 8: Cute, nightmare and juicing right.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty two, Speedy was replaced by Golden Arches,

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but that only lasted a year because in nineteen sixty three,

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Ronald McDonald the clown was first was introduced to appeal

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to children. Current McDonald's employees are provided with access to

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various training videos that they can do by logging into

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the employee portal. However, before the Internet way back, everybody

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training was a bit different. In nineteen eighty four, Weird

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Michael Jackson's nineteen eighty two hit beat It, not to

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be outdone. Also in nineteen eighty four, McDonald's released a

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training video for their employees called clean It, complete with

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them Michael Jackson impersonator, moonwalking and sport and a lone

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glove and sparkly socks. So while we wait for our

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fries to be done, why don't we listen to clean It?

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Speaker 2: Follow up, and.

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you things.

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Speaker 11: A donn a danger round, don't want to see the

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turn it disappear.

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Speaker 2: That's how it's got to be.

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Speaker 12: And I'm making it plan.

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Speaker 2: Solf clean it, just clean it. Look you've done.

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Speaker 4: Don't understand it's work to be done.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be a time.

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Speaker 4: Let's make it fun.

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Speaker 13: So get a bump and bom and get a squat

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gun and clean it.

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Speaker 10: Just pull up the stas clean, clean, show up me

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little showing clean again.

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Speaker 2: You ain't notice you offense.

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Speaker 10: Just clean it, clean, clean, cleant you get the clean.

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Speaker 2: It's got the joke, can't don't.

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Speaker 10: Bother me the gan it's getting a candle.

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Speaker 3: Take fine and what you do show me that you

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understand that's clean.

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Speaker 10: It just pull up those slaves clean clean clean, Go.

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Speaker 13: Show me showing clean against show shiney clea.

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Speaker 10: Shaw, show Explain.

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Speaker 4: Clean.

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Speaker 3: It was produced and performed by Martin O'Donnell, who collaborated

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with fellow producer Michael Santori, with Greg Not Craig Ferguson

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on lead vocals. Martin O'Donnell born May for US, nineteen

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fifty five is an American sound designer, audio director, and composer.

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He teamed up with Santori, who he met at college,

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to work on video games scores such as Myths, Ony, Destiny,

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and Halo. The Halo soundtrack was voted Best Original Video

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Soundtrack by Rolling Stone Magazine. He also collaborated with Paul

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McCartney for the video game Destiny, which was ordered Outstanding

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Achievement and Original Music Composition and Outstanding and Achievement and

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Sound Design at the eighteenth Annual DICE Conference. DICE standing

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for Design, Innovate, Communicate, entertain But what I really wanted

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to mention was that he got his start writing TV

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and radio jingles such as Mister Clean and Flintstone's Vitamins.

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So if clean it didn't give you enough of an earworm,

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We've got Mister Clean and Flintstone's Vitamins. So he did

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this until nineteen ninety seven, when his company Total Audio

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transitioned to video games. Side note, I didn't think I

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was going to find out much about this song. However,

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it pays to read comments on YouTube, because after several

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people were asking about the song's creator, about halfway down

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the comment section was one for O'Donnell himself confirming he

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was a mastermind behind the song and shouting out to

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Centaurian Ferguson. And I also found that this was This

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video was uploaded to YouTube about twelve years ago, so

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Speaker 6: I don't know if mastermind is the right word.

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Speaker 3: But that's what happens when you punch in synonyms your

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iPhone and you have to pick one.

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Speaker 7: That was Was Michael Jackson aware of this at the time,

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as anybody you know, did he?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, it wasn't made public, so unless the McDonald's

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on this and I really couldn't find any evidence.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of employees that could easily

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean it's a parody too, so you don't

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Speaker 2: You don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know if he knew out it.

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a lot of people that were ex McDonald's employees said

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that they never had never saw this as a training video.

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Speaker 7: What I was going to say that the real question

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is did it really motivate the workers.

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Speaker 1: To Did it motivate you to clean right now? Neil, No,

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not at all.

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Speaker 3: It made me, you know, I wanted it makes me

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want fries is about it, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, nuggets or something.

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Speaker 6: But it makes me think that if they can pay

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to make a video like that, they can pay me

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just a little more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, definitely. But the people were mostly on the

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YouTube site were criticizing the video because it had like

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the dancers were like sliding across the counter after they

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just clean it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: That's appetite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly because of the grease, probably right, because they

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Speaker 3: Their thoughts on the counter.

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Speaker 7: They should have wiped it after they slid.

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Speaker 3: Across, exactly exactly. Then the other yeah, well, they did

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describe the Michael Jackson actor in the video as a

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Michael Jackson lookalike. When I wrote this up, I chose

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not to use the term look alike. I use the

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word impersonator because it really is.

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Speaker 2: There. That's it.

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Speaker 3: There, you have clean it that I've been waiting a

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long time too. That was good, Yeah, to expose you

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to and plague you with so that you have that

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earworm forever and ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 6: That set the bar pretty high. So great. All right,

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Speaker 6: Ah Way, and welcome back to our chain stores episode.

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And Neil, we're up to you all right.

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Speaker 7: Back back on the chain gang, as they say, or

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the chain store Gang. Now the song I picked was

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by the Ramones. It is by the Ramones, and it's

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called seven to eleven. And as you know, I've discussed

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the Ramones here on the Rock and Roll History Show

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many times, although not recently, but many times in the past.

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But for those of you who may not know who

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they were, allow me to give you a brief overview.

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They were a punk rock band formed by four misfits

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from Forest Hills, Queens, New York in nineteen seventy four.

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The original members Joey, Johnny, Tommy and Deedy all adopted

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this surname Ramone, thanks to Sir Paul McCartney, who used

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the name Ramone as a surname or an alias when

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he was booking into hotels and whatnot during the height

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of Beatlemania, so that you know, he wouldn't be mobbed

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and the place wouldn't be mobbed by you know, screaming

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fans and all. He would sign in as Paul Ramone.

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Somehow they got a hold of that and they became

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the Ramones, and over the course of the next twenty

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two years and a few personnel changes, they performed two

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two hundred and sixty three live shows, released fourteen studio albums,

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numerous live albums, singles, and music videos, including a full

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length feature film, Rock and Mill High School and are

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often cited as the first true punk rock band, and

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while fame and fortune pretty much eluded them during their

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active days of their career, their impact and influence on

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the shape and sound of rock music is pretty much

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immeasurable now. In regards to today's topic, change stores, the

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song title says it all probably the most recognizable name

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inconvenience stores. Seven eleven. That's right, seven eleven, the home

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of the slurpee giving kids brain freeze since nineteen sixty five.

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You know what I'm talking about. But let's go back

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a little further. The seven eleven Incorporated. It's an American

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convenience store chain and they're headquartered in Irving, Texas. Now,

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the chain started out in nineteen twenty seven as the

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Southland Ice Company. They sold eggs, milk, and bread from

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sixteen to fent and stores in the Dallas area. In

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nineteen thirty one, after the Great Depression, the company almost

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filed for bankruptcy, but they managed to hang on until

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after World War II and during the postwar boom and

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In nineteen forty six, they changed their name to seven

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eleven to reflect the store's new hours of operation, which

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are or were seven am until eleven pm, although many

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stores are now open twenty four hours and weathering fluctuating

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stock markets, various corporate buyouts, et cetera. Seven to eleven

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now operates franchises and licenses about eighty five thousand stores

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all over the world. That's eighty five thousand stores worldwide. Okay.

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About the song seven to eleven. It appears on the

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Ramones sixth studio album called Pleasant Dreams, and it was

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released in mid nineteen eighty one on Sire Records. Right

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merced he's giving the thumbs up.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I was there.

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Speaker 7: The song was written by Joey Ramon and it's a

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sentimental ballad in the style of the teenage tragedy songs

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that were popular in the late nineteen fifties and early

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nineteen sixties, like Leader of the Pack by the Shangri Las,

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who Joey was a huge fan of, By the Way

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a Last Kiss by Jay Frank Wilson and the Cavaliers

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and later covered by Eddie Veteran Pearl Jam and teen

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Angel by Mark dinning, and they all lament the tragic

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teenage deaths in a very melodramatic fashion. Seven to eleven

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carries on that tradition. Boy meets girl at a convenience store,

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they date, they fall in love, and then the girl

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gets run over by a runaway car. Real tearjerker on

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a spoiler wow, as Joey would say, it's a real

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tear jerker for you. So let's give seven to eleven

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by the Romont Just spend. We'll talk about some Oregan,

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what did you get there?

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Speaker 12: I met her at the setting in the.

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Speaker 14: Man's then Tilly Jim again.

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Speaker 2: The feature I never thought of bed a good out again.

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Speaker 15: She was standing about space the sea, said candes sy.

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Speaker 2: Ether I yet went for a little man.

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Speaker 12: Then to the Holiday.

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Speaker 2: Were younging, We was younging.

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Speaker 12: Up and you only only girl, I never.

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Speaker 4: Thinking it up.

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Speaker 14: We went then to the Riggags walk begins with them

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to the Pittsburg about.

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Speaker 5: Bout she wopped, she wiped, she walp WoT she watched,

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she wiped, she wap.

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Speaker 14: Who didn't had to re read it or and we

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did all the fun songs go, some of fun with

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the prince puns on.

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Speaker 2: But we all the one way wrong the wall or

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he was young.

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Speaker 4: Or he was youngated and yell the body cause.

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Speaker 10: I never dream it.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 10: And so we went there to the things.

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Speaker 2: The witch turned into.

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Speaker 12: Man and before I never thought the lea the brizzo

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rid Oh no no, no, oh no no.

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Speaker 4: I kissed him Punker and I said goodbye.

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Speaker 14: Last thing I knew she would if piggured up out

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on coming car ran out of control.

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Speaker 4: He crushed my baby and and crushed my soul. Now

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all I've got the sorrow and pain standing, I give

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it the break. The crush all turned whs the silence

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of pain.

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Speaker 14: He's driving me saying, oh yeah, al, we was young, Oh,

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we were young, and the girl all we was junging.

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Speaker 1: We was young and you only.

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Speaker 7: A romance at the seven Leis And did you catch

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it at the beginning there They even mentioned the famous

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Motel Chain holiday inn as well, So there's a little

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bonus for your chain store. And I'm sure you noticed

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that the sound of the song was a little different

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from more of the more traditional Ramones song.

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Speaker 8: I was gonna say, I think that's probably the slowest

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Ramon song I've ever heard, and polished and so Joey.

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Speaker 7: But there's a reason for that, and pretty much that's

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because Sire Records. They were desperate to broaden the band's appeal. Now,

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their previous album, End of the Century, had come out

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a year before, and it was produced by a legendary,

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the legendary Phil Specter, and it was not received as

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favorably as the previous LPs. It was a whole different

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sound there too. But even with Spector's clout, and remember

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this was before the whole murder conviction and all that,

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he was still in everybody's pretty good graces, they still

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couldn't get any radio airplay. You'd think Phil Spector, you

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think no. And there's a reason for this, and it

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was really because of the sex Pistols. Now, a while back,

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maybe a year or so ago, Mercedes and I had

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the Ramones tour manager Monte Melnick on the show and

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we were talking about this and he said, yeah, it

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was the sex Pistols because they gave punk rock a

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bad name, not that they had a great name to

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begin with, but you know, the sex Pistol came out

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and there was the spitting and the swearing and oh yeah,

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that little incident where he you know, killed his girlfriend

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in odide on Heroin. You know, you know it was

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it was really not what the whole scene was about,

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but of course they sensationalized that and it gave it

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a whole you know, a bad name, so to say.

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And that's why the Ramones and so many other punk

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bands couldn't get They couldn't get an airplay, and the

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stations at that time would say, nope, they're not doing it.

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Speaker 2: So, you know, they.

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Speaker 7: Again tried to Sigh Records in an attempt to broaden

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the band's appeal, chose another well known producer for Pleasant Dreams,

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a man named Graham Goldman now Graham Goldman. He had

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previously written songs for The Yardbirds, The Hollys, and Herman's

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Hermit's Back in the nineteen sixties, and he also co

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founded the band ten CC I'm Not in Love in

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the nineteen seventies, so he had some prestige, some pedigree.

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As expected, there were disputes all around regarding the overall

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direction of the album, and it did obviously use better

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production values and different musical styles that were much different

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from traditional punk songs, and as a result, well, this

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album didn't do very well. Commercially either. So it was

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Marky Ramone, who was the drummer at the time on

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Ellen this album. He called it their pop punk phase.

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That's a sub genre that wouldn't really become popular for

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another decade. Remember this is nineteen eighty one. Pop punk

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wouldn't come along until another at least another ten years

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in the nineties with bands like Green Day or The Offspring,

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you know, and even beyond in two thousand with bands

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like Good Charlotte and Some forty one, who really did

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a lot better with that. Yeah, the Ramones they couldn't

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you know, they couldn't sell it. It took other bands

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to copy them and they became famous. But in the end,

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you know, it's not record sales. They don't always tell

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the whole story. And the Ramones are probably more influential

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now and probably have sold more records. This is my opinion,

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but I think I could probably back it up. They

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probably have more influence and sold more records since they

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disbanded back in nineteen ninety six than they did in

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the entire in their retire initial run. They're probably selling

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more records today than they did back then, which all right,

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but it's this influence was in no small part that

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led to their induction to the Rock and Roll Hall

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of Fame in two thousand and two, and of course, sadly,

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as of twenty fourteen, all four original members are now gone,

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but the subsequent members like Marky and Richie on drums

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and CJ on bass, they're fortunately still out there. They're

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still with us, and they're still carrying the torch. So

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you know what, go down, get yourself a slurpy and

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put on some of Ramon's records.

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Speaker 1: Agreed, you know, this is what I was thinking when

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you were playing the song. First of all, I forgot

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about that song, and I love that song. But second

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of all, I was thinking, you know, in a different

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in a different time warp, if you know, like the

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butterfly effect, if something different happened. I was trying to

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picture Lake, what if all the if each of those

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other members were to front the band at the time,

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because they didn't really like that the sixty stuff as

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much as Joey did.

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Speaker 7: Oh, that was totally his.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally his thing.

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Speaker 7: He loved like the Shangri Laws. I know he you know,

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he was a fan of theirs and yeah, and even

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had one of his birthday bashes after he had passed.

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Mary Weiss was one of the guests who came out

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and you know, did a set of Shangri Law songs

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and so yeah, as as a you know, kind of

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a tribute to him.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but he wasn't like if you put if

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you put Dede as the lead singer instead of Joey.

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For whatever reason, they tried that that yeah, yeah, drummer,

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yeah and d d it was a three.

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Speaker 7: Piece Johnny on guitar, Dede singing and playing bass, and

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Joey on drums. But the problem was, well, Joey wasn't

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a very good drummer and deed he couldn't sing and

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play at the same time, right, I don't know if

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you could chew gum and walk at the same time.

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But so that's when they put Joey upfront, who had

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been a lead singer in a in a band before

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the Ramones back in like the earlier seventy like seventy two.

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He was a kind of a glam band called Sniper,

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and you know, so he was not unfamiliar with being

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the front man. And they tried and looked searched high

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and low for a drummer that would sound like what Tommy,

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who was the producer, he was going to be their

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manager and producer, they couldn't find it, so he said, no,

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do it like this, So he played. They said, well,

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why don't you do it? So that's how he became

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the drummer because nobody else could play the way that

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would fit the music.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: But in a different world, if DEDI were the one

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bringing the influence, it would that band would have a

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whole different sound, would you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I, oh, you're totally right. And I don't think

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that they wouldn't. I don't think anybody would have paid

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that much, not that anybody paid that much to him

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at the beginning anyway, or but I don't think I

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don't think they would have gotten off the ground if

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it had been any other way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we are grateful that they agreed, even though

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they didn't really agree, but that they worked together enough

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to be able to put things together all together, because

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if if each of them were to go off on

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their own, it would have just been, you know, a

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00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,400
completely different thing. And I just love that they all

475
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,440
had their input and it ended up to sound the

476
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,240
way it sounded.

477
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,039
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, yeah, they did they individually, they didn't get

478
00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:40,519
along very well, but they were united in the fact

479
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:44,160
they wanted the band. They put the band above their

480
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,160
personal differences.

481
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:45,839
Speaker 1: Thank god.

482
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

483
00:31:46,839 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was going to say, still you still.

484
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,119
Speaker 6: See high school bands doing their tunes and all that.

485
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440
They're great songs to learn.

486
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they're not easy.

487
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,599
Speaker 6: They're simple because as we've talked about the difference before,

488
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:03,400
but you know, most of them are three or four

489
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,799
chords and you can learn them and it's a good

490
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,279
start and if you sing a little bit out of tune,

491
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,319
it still fits. Oh, it's all good.

492
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

493
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,559
Speaker 6: So definitely a legacy. Maybe not upfront, but in the

494
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:18,920
long run, that's what I'm saying.

495
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 7: You know that they're still being listened to and they're

496
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,319
still influencing. I mean, I mean, let's face it, rock

497
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:29,400
and roll is not like the most popular form of

498
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:30,119
music today.

499
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 6: It's not it's coming back. You're starting to see things

500
00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:33,960
come back.

501
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 7: But see, I don't mind that because I think it

502
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:44,319
flourishes in the underground, in small little clubs, in basements, and.

503
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,559
Speaker 6: I think so much of it is the overproduction, the perfection,

504
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,039
the auto tune everything, the quantizing every beat that just

505
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,519
takes away from so much. You know, there you go

506
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,119
down the rabbit hole, as I do of you know,

507
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,200
like producers that will take an old Frank Sinatra tune

508
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160
because now you can break apart into each individual track

509
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,119
and they'll auto tune Frank Sinatra into what it should

510
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,640
be exactly. And it's just the emotion's gone.

511
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: It's just.

512
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 6: What it's supposed to be.

513
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 7: All the technical skill and all that you can't replace,

514
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:23,440
you know, the heart and soul that it has no

515
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:24,160
heart and soul.

516
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 6: Nope, it's mechanical.

517
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:27,079
Speaker 7: I don't need it.

518
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, agreed, all right, awesome. I guess I'm gonna

519
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,319
get a slurpey tonight. See how that goes.

520
00:33:35,759 --> 00:33:37,039
Speaker 1: I got some French fries.

521
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think the last time I had a slurpe.

522
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,400
It's been it's been quite a while, long time. Yeah, well,

523
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,920
I mean, you know, seven to eleven slurpy. I had

524
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,759
an adult slurpy at the sight yesterday. Yeah, that's another story.

525
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 7: That did the brain freezes from another room?

526
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,559
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, exactly. All right, thank you, Neil, Gail, what

527
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,000
up to you?

528
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 8: Thanks for I barely know where to start with this

529
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,039
because there are just so many cool details about the

530
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:13,760
artist and the song. And my song title is not

531
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:18,440
a chain store, but this song does mention a chain store.

532
00:34:18,519 --> 00:34:23,800
It mentions Stoppin' Shop. The Stoppin' Shop Supermarket Company runs

533
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,320
the largest grocery chain in the New England Northeast area

534
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,280
of the United States, with more than three hundred and

535
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:38,840
forty supermarkets and combinations supermarket slash general merchandise stores in Connecticut, Massachusetts,

536
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,559
New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. In

537
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,960
nineteen ninety six, Stoppin' Shop was acquired by a Whole USA,

538
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:54,599
the largest grocery retailer on the Eastern coast. And they

539
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,880
are a subsidiary of a Dutch company.

540
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,159
Speaker 6: And this is why our prices are going up. Yeah,

541
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,360
become bigger conglomerates in less competition. Yeah, that's another show.

542
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,599
Speaker 4: Right, it is.

543
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:18,039
Speaker 8: So the song itself is called Roadrunner, and it's written

544
00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:22,559
by Jonathan Richmond, written and performed by him. It's usually

545
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:26,800
listed as performed by him when he was in the

546
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:33,800
Modern Lovers. And this it's interesting. It wasn't released till

547
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,960
October nineteen seventy six, but it was recorded in nineteen

548
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:48,039
seventy two. And that version was recorded on Berserkly Records

549
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:56,440
and the producer was John Cale. Now Jonathan Richmond wrote

550
00:35:56,519 --> 00:36:01,519
the song. He described it as an ode to Massachusetts

551
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:09,039
Root one hundred and twenty eight. Now he comes from Natick, Massachusetts.

552
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:14,679
As a teenager, he saw the Velvet Underground perform many times,

553
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,440
and the format of Roadrunner the song is derived directly

554
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:24,119
from the Velvet song Sister Ray. Roadrunner mainly uses two

555
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,639
chords G and A and very briefly E, rather than

556
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Sister Ray, which uses GF and C, but they share

557
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:37,480
the same type of rhythm and lyrics, which in performance

558
00:36:37,559 --> 00:36:43,199
were largely improvised around a central theme. He says he

559
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,840
wrote the song by nineteen seventy and he began performing

560
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,719
in public at age nineteen. Former bandmate John Felice were

561
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,679
called that As teenagers, he and Richmond used to get

562
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,000
in the car and just drive up and down Route

563
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
one twenty eight and the turnpike. We'd come ope over

564
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:05,159
a hill and he'd see the radio towers, the beacons flashing,

565
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,159
and he would get almost cheery eyed. He'd see all

566
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:14,440
this beauty in things where other people just wouldn't see it.

567
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,760
Some of the things he mentioned besides Stop and Shop

568
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:26,639
were the Howard Johnson's Restaurant. That's another chain, the Prudential Tower,

569
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Quincy cohas it, Deer Island, Route one twenty eight and

570
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:39,320
Interstate ninety. Let's have a listen, run up.

571
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: Fast, let a draft at a stop and shop.

572
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:55,679
Speaker 4: Put the radio on. Jesus that be would have pulled outside,

573
00:37:57,679 --> 00:37:58,400
would have lit a.

574
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 12: Nothing radio.

575
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:17,159
Speaker 16: I'm like, all right, I'm in love with about a

576
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,559
good line once twenty eight when it's dark outside, I'm

577
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:24,159
in love with Massachusetts.

578
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:27,119
Speaker 2: I'm in love with the radio.

579
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,559
Speaker 17: They helped me from being the lows late at night,

580
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,800
help me from being lonely lay night.

581
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: I don't feel so bad now. I want the car.

582
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:41,559
Speaker 12: Don't be so long, not already al.

583
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:57,159
Speaker 17: I right, got fifty spirit of fteen fifty six. Make

584
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:01,199
sure the bushes next of fifteen seven, the highways.

585
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 7: To go for next week.

586
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: No black wig, suburban tree, suburban speed at it sounds

587
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:09,039
like canna say road road or twice.

588
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 17: I'm in love with rock and rolls that I'll be

589
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:12,599
out of that.

590
00:39:14,760 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: That's why O. Well, now.

591
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,039
Speaker 4: That's the busy.

592
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 11: Love gotta drop to stop the shop with.

593
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:23,639
Speaker 4: The radio on at night and be in love with

594
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,599
mon fid be in love with on a rock and

595
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:34,000
roll on as a bot, a rock and roll wild.

596
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: At the radio like a roller.

597
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 4: Okay, now you say about a lover.

598
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 2: I got the.

599
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: Let, the car let, the son, got the.

600
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 16: Rock bottle me on, I got the corn Messecuss got,

601
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,119
I got the pot of Massachusetts, played.

602
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,679
Speaker 4: It, played a night of it. I got one sounds

603
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,480
a bottom Massachusetts, I.

604
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 12: Got the world and got the I've.

605
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: Got roll.

606
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:29,599
Speaker 2: A ry.

607
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:31,559
Speaker 3: My god.

608
00:41:33,559 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 8: I love that song so much.

609
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 7: It is one of the greatest songs ever written.

610
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:43,199
Speaker 8: You cannot possibly hear that and be in a bad mood.

611
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,519
I just it's it's just so cute a couple of

612
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:53,599
little fun facts. Critic Real Marcus described it as the

613
00:41:53,679 --> 00:41:57,000
most obvious song in the world and the strangest, which

614
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:58,360
is probably why I like it.

615
00:41:59,519 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: Rolling.

616
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 8: Jhone ranked at number two six' nine on their list

617
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,679
of the five Hundred Greatest songs Of All time in

618
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,119
two thousand and four and number seventy seven in twenty twenty.

619
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,320
One it charted at number eleven on THE uk chart

620
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,239
in nineteen seventy. Seven, Now, NEIL i know you know

621
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,400
a lot about the artist of the.

622
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,679
Speaker 6: Song what can you add for?

623
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,599
Speaker 7: Me all, right let's start. Off you did mention that

624
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,760
How Jonathan richmond was influenced by The Velvet underground and

625
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,239
you mentioned the producer of that particular track that recording

626
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,039
As John. Cale, now, Yep John cale was the original

627
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:49,280
bass player for The Velvet. Underground oh. Nice any coincidence,

628
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,920
THERE i think. Not John kel, Was, yeah he was

629
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,800
on the first Two Velvet underground, records AND i, remember,

630
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Yeah well it was released in seventy six and it

631
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,159
was touted as you, know the record that was recorded

632
00:43:05,199 --> 00:43:07,519
in nineteen seventy two that the world wasn't ready for

633
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,559
until nineteen seventy. Six love it and truer words were never.

634
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:18,280
Spoken now there, Are, well there's several different. Versions there's

635
00:43:18,639 --> 00:43:20,760
two main versions of that, song the one we just

636
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:26,639
heard and the other, version well they call the one

637
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:30,840
we just heard Road runner number. Two, okay WHY i don't,

638
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,800
know because it was recorded. First runner number one was

639
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:42,519
recorded in nineteen seventy five For Berserkly, records and it

640
00:43:42,599 --> 00:43:45,679
was more of like an acoustic sounding it was a little.

641
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,639
Cleaner it was released on an album Called Berserkly Chartbusters volume,

642
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,000
one and.

643
00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: The rubies were on that record.

644
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,159
Speaker 6: Too oh my.

645
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,639
Speaker 7: God, yes there was never A volume, two by the,

646
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:02,719
way but, yeah the rooms were on there our Pals

647
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,519
Jonathan richmond and a guy Named Greg kin and the

648
00:44:06,599 --> 00:44:11,679
Greg Kin band who went on to become pretty. Famous

649
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,960
and when his hit or WHEN i think it was

650
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:20,519
the breakup, song became a, hit unfortunately for the rest

651
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,800
of the, roster they all pretty much got dropped and

652
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,760
all the support went To Greg. KIN i, MEAN i understand,

653
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,119
it BUT i feel. Bad you, know The rubenus can

654
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:37,320
tell you about. That but, anyway the, record that's WHERE

655
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,360
i first heard the. Song WHEN i got that. RECORD

656
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,079
i think it was released in seventy. FIVE i heard

657
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:46,360
it in seventy six and heard it on the, radio

658
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:49,280
believe it or. Not and it also has the classic

659
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,559
line about the stop and shop where he goes, FIRST

660
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:56,679
i walked past the stopping. Shop THEN i drove past

661
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,800
the stopping. Shop AND i like that a lot better

662
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:03,880
than walking by the stopping shopping BECAUSE i had their radio.

663
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:12,440
On so, yeah, that, yeah that that was you, know

664
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,039
i'd heard that. Version then they released it was on you,

665
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,679
know on the same. LABEL i, said, oh you, know

666
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,400
and it's a totally different feel to. It but but

667
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:27,360
The Modern. Lovers the first one also has a, distinction

668
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,480
actually two. Distinctions there were two members of the band

669
00:45:32,559 --> 00:45:36,000
on that album that went on to have become a

670
00:45:36,039 --> 00:45:42,880
little more. Popular one was Drummer David, robinson and they

671
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,840
were in The boston. Area he went on and joined

672
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:50,760
a band Called The, cars also out of The, YEAH

673
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:56,039
i think you know who The cars and the organist

674
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,679
and on that, track and you know he took his

675
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,400
name Is Jerry, harrison and he would a little bit

676
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,360
later become a member of The Talking.

677
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,599
Speaker 4: Heads oh my.

678
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 8: Goodness so there's there's some.

679
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,159
Speaker 7: What do you call that pedigree or link lineage or

680
00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:21,400
something like. That so and then and then of course

681
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,880
the bass Player Ernie Brooks mercedes AND i ran into

682
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:29,960
at A Pat irwin show P I, trio and Even

683
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:33,920
pat was like in awe of the guy he.

684
00:46:34,199 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 8: Was that Was that's. Great don't you love it when

685
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:45,079
when other artists like fanboy or fangirl on other. ARTISTS

686
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:46,400
i love.

687
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,639
Speaker 7: That this is Totally this is another case of where

688
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:54,719
a record that was made was probably, not you, know

689
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,159
popular by any stretch of the, imagination except for the

690
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,519
people that influenced and went on to like you know

691
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:05,639
tout it, is, like you, know one of their all

692
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,039
time favorite, albums and that album it's got a lot

693
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:12,639
of great songs on, it and it's if you like

694
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,119
The Velvet, underground you would love this.

695
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:14,559
Speaker 2: Record.

696
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 8: OKAY i will have to look into that a little bit.

697
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 7: More and it's one of the only, albums well not,

698
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:26,199
only but one of the few ALBUMS i ACTUALLY i

699
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,559
had on vinyl and THEN i went out and bought

700
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,440
it ON cd when it you, know when CDs became a,

701
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,159
THING i. DIDN'T i haven't downloaded it.

702
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,079
Speaker 8: Digitally, yeah, yeah but you, will oh one of these.

703
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:44,679
Days it's it's interesting because in twenty, thirteen the state

704
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,079
representative For massachusetts back, then whose name Was Marty, walsh

705
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,960
introduced a bill to Have roadrunner named the official rock

706
00:47:54,159 --> 00:48:01,079
song Of. Massachusetts, However, richmond, however him out against, this

707
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,119
SAYING i don't think the song is good enough to

708
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,679
be A massachusetts state song of any.

709
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,119
Speaker 7: Kind, well you, Know i've seen this is back in the.

710
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:13,679
DAY i. SAW i Saw Jonathan richmond perform a couple of, times,

711
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,960
coincidentally both at the same, place The Town hall In

712
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,840
New York, city about it about a year, apart and

713
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,800
one of the times The rubenus were the opening, act

714
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,000
but he Never i've never seen him, perform AND i

715
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:30,400
don't think he performs The roadrunner. Anymore he won't play.

716
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,079
Speaker 2: It oh, YEAH i.

717
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:34,199
Speaker 7: KNOW i think it's just, like well that was. Me

718
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,679
then this is WHAT i, do you, know which is

719
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,079
like kind of a shame because everybody loves. That, yes

720
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:46,360
but but That's, jonathan you. Know, YES i know, Personally

721
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:50,320
i've been going up To, massachusetts you, know SINCE i

722
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,639
was a kid up To Cape, god SO i knew

723
00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:56,920
what Stopping shop was way before they, expanded you, know

724
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:01,480
the stopping shop was all over you, know Doing england In.

725
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:06,559
Massachusetts along With bradley's that was like. That, yes speaking

726
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:07,480
of another, chain.

727
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 8: You're in this, county we had, Gosh i'm thinking it

728
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,000
had to be the nineteen seventies, anyway if not before,

729
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:21,719
that we had together in the same shopping center stopping

730
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:27,840
Shop bradley's And Meddi, march which was the pharmacy that

731
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,360
was affiliated with those two other.

732
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:34,119
Speaker 7: Chains, yeah and just for, Those bradley's was like a department.

733
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 6: Store it was Like cole's Before. Coals, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

734
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 7: Yeah to explain it to the to the younger members

735
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,239
of our. Audience. Yeah but so when this song came,

736
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,320
out and we used to go up and drive around

737
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:54,400
On Cape cod just you, know teenagers doing what teenagers,

738
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,199
do and we would drive past the stopping shop and

739
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,960
we'd start singing this song for as one was and

740
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:02,960
we had the eight track.

741
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,679
Speaker 8: On, yeah, yeah.

742
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 7: Oh it's so it, also you, know tugs at my

743
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,519
heart strings too WHEN i hear that song was very you,

744
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:18,400
know reminds me of a a Happier time's.

745
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,159
Speaker 8: Cool, well thank You neil for helping flesh out.

746
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: My.

747
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 6: INFORMATION i learned a lot that was. Cool that was very.

748
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,199
Cool all, right thank, You. Gail we're going to take a,

749
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,400
second real quick, break and we're going to be back

750
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,239
with more right after.

751
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 3: This Hudson River radio dot.

752
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:46,159
Speaker 4: Com Hudson River radio.

753
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 10: Dot com.

754
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 6: And welcome, Back.

755
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: Mercedes your turn speaking speaking of The rubenous that was? Them,

756
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,480
yeah uh. Okay, so AS i said, EARLIER i pitched

757
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:02,159
this topic without already having an idea for a. SONG

758
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,800
i googled around a bit AND i didn't find a

759
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,559
SONG i wanted to do until it dawned on me

760
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,079
THAT i knew one and knew it very. Well because

761
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,400
it was An Alice cooper. Song if you don't know

762
00:51:16,519 --> 00:51:19,880
this by, Now i'm a Big Alice cooper, fan are.

763
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,079
Speaker 3: YOU i didn't know, that AND i didn't know that

764
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,719
And neel like the remove.

765
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,199
Speaker 1: Might have something new every.

766
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,039
Speaker 6: Day So i've said this, before but my FIRST i

767
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,199
think Only Alice cooper. Concert mercedes happened to be there,

768
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,719
too and she's always down front and more often than

769
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,840
not she catches the cane That alice throws into the.

770
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,239
Craft so then we met up afterwards And i'm, like

771
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,960
CAN i hold the? Cane mercedes has never side eyed

772
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:52,199
me so, hard LIKE i was just a stranger that

773
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,880
came up out of nowhere asking, to you, know enter her.

774
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: House so she's, like, say DID i let?

775
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 6: You she's, like all, right you can hold, it but

776
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:02,440
you have to give it right. Back i'm, Like i'm

777
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,760
not going to run. Over SO i got to hold,

778
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,639
it but she like had a hand around, it ready

779
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:11,960
to catch it right. Back it's as close AS i ever.

780
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: Came those are precious.

781
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,519
Speaker 7: THINGS i would be remiss not to mention. That And

782
00:52:17,639 --> 00:52:21,159
Alice cooper cut was it the first concert That mercedes

783
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:26,239
AND i went to see, together although separately we didn't

784
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,639
know each other right and wouldn't meet for another you

785
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,159
know how many?

786
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,639
Speaker 2: YEARS a?

787
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: Few, yeah quite a. Few that's. Crazy, Yeah so speaking

788
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,159
of nineteen seventy, THREE.

789
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,159
Speaker 7: I DIDN'T i didn't SAY i.

790
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Know this song is on The Billion Dollar babies record

791
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,719
and it was released in nineteen seventy three and the

792
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,639
original lineup of The Alice cooper group is still. Intact

793
00:52:55,199 --> 00:52:58,840
Alice Statis Done, Away Michael, Bruce Neil smith And Glegg

794
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:05,320
Craig Glenn Buxton. Rip it reached number one, and according To,

795
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:11,039
wikipedia covered topics as and themes such as, necrophilia dental, fear,

796
00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:16,440
horror and sexual. Harassment it was produced By Bob ezrin

797
00:53:16,639 --> 00:53:22,159
And donovan sang on the title. Track donovan is known For, Sunshine, Superman,

798
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,519
atlantis And Mellow. Yellow donovan later described The Billion Dollar

799
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:35,360
baby song as a horror story. Song David byrne Of

800
00:53:35,519 --> 00:53:38,639
The Talking heads has said that the album inspired him

801
00:53:38,679 --> 00:53:42,400
to write the Song Psycho Killer, nice WHICH i did not.

802
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:46,239
Know the title comes from the fact that the members

803
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,920
of the band were surprised at their climb to, success

804
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:54,360
so they are The Billion Dollar babies. Generation, landslide which

805
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,920
is my, song was later re recorded As Generation landslide

806
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:05,360
eighty one his For alice's nineteen eighty one Album Special Fortune,

807
00:54:05,559 --> 00:54:12,639
forces Which i've never. Heard how crazy is?

808
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 5: THAT i?

809
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:13,639
Speaker 9: Know so.

810
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,159
Speaker 1: Let's talk first about the chain stores mentioned in the.

811
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,199
Song the first one Is. Krazgi's anybody Remember Krazgi's, No.

812
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:26,400
Nope so before there were discount, stores there were dime,

813
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,519
stores named because items sold for a dime or. Nickel

814
00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:34,400
krazgy's was a dime store open in eighteen ninety nine In,

815
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:41,039
Detroit michigan By Sebastian Spurling, kresgy and it Sold Housewaars linen's,

816
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:45,599
clothing school, supplies and. Toys they were mostly located in The,

817
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,920
midwest but there's also a large one In, Newark New.

818
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,639
Jersey by nineteen, twelve he had eighty five. Stores by

819
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,280
nineteen twenty, four he was worth three hundred and seventy

820
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,679
five million, dollars which is over ex billion. Today he

821
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,760
passed in nineteen sixty, six but the discount store was

822
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:11,599
later Named. Kmart oh, okay oh my, goodness who? Knew

823
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:17,119
the Last kmart closed in twenty twenty. Four the other

824
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,320
chain store in the lyrics Is wilworth's and you probably remember.

825
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,239
Those maybe it was opened in eighteen seventy nine As

826
00:55:27,199 --> 00:55:32,440
Woolworth's great five Cent store and you Tout New. York

827
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:38,199
that one, failed But wilworth opened his first Successful Woolworth's

828
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,599
great Five cents store in eighteen seventy nine In, Lancaster.

829
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,199
Pennsylvania the chain went out of business In july nineteen ninety,

830
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,119
seven when the company decided to focus primarily on sporting

831
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:56,480
goods and renamed Itself Venerator VENATOR i don't know. Group

832
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:01,440
by two thousand and, one the company's company focused exclusively

833
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:05,159
on the sporting goods, market changing its name to the

834
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:12,280
current name Foot, Locker. Inc Which woolworth started in nineteen

835
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,840
seventy four under the Name Kenny. Shoes it was all

836
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:20,800
what you, Remember, KENNY.

837
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,079
Speaker 3: I remember back to school shopping and yeah.

838
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:30,079
Speaker 1: Yeah it was Also walworth was also a five and time,

839
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:33,039
store which undercut the prices of other local. Merchants of,

840
00:56:33,119 --> 00:56:37,920
course The British woolworths were known as three and sixpence.

841
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:42,199
STORES i think it's. Adorable it was one of the

842
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,559
First american retailers to put merchandise out for the shopping

843
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:50,360
public to handle and select without the assistance of a sales. Clerk,

844
00:56:52,159 --> 00:56:56,960
famously On february, first nineteen sixty, Four African american students

845
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,719
from a Nearby agricultural And Technical State university started The

846
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,159
greensboro sit ins as at a white's only lunch counter

847
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,320
in The, Greenboro North Carolina wilworth store that became a

848
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:16,440
landmark event in the civil rights. Movement in nineteen ninety,

849
00:57:16,519 --> 00:57:20,400
three an eight foot section of that lunch counter was

850
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,280
moved to The Smithsonian, institution and the store site now

851
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:30,119
contains a civil rights. Museum wilwor has had four thousand

852
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:32,480
stores in THE us at its highest. Point the LAST

853
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,639
us location closed in nineteen ninety, seven but it is

854
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:44,360
still a thriving business In, mexico all. Right so the

855
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,400
song Is Generation, landslide which is the second song on

856
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:51,360
the second Side Billion Dollar. Babies this single was backed

857
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,639
with Below, hoay which is another great. Song and by the,

858
00:57:55,719 --> 00:57:59,360
way listened closely Because alice plays the harmonica on. This

859
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,079
so let's hear.

860
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 18: It please clean and flit down the load of boots

861
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,360
and see your don't you?

862
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 12: Know people are.

863
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 11: Starm in In, korea alcohol, raised blazing boys in and,

864
00:58:32,159 --> 00:58:35,079
needles kindergarten.

865
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,239
Speaker 4: People they use, them they need. Them the over indulgent

866
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,960
machines were their. Children there wasn't.

867
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,239
Speaker 11: A way down on her here to cool them because

868
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:49,960
they looked just like. Humans And chris is a, woover

869
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:57,159
but decoding BRAINS wo would to destroy Brass in battalions

870
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:02,679
were ruling the street scene Indiration landslide close.

871
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: The gap between the MEN i left to.

872
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 11: Myself man and the ladies never see the billion.

873
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: Dollars LET i got up.

874
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 11: Lets his mothers hiding in the, basement just using my fan,

875
00:59:37,079 --> 00:59:41,800
says their shields and the helmets myles a mill bottles

876
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:47,239
keep umping her cheers when mother's then, burnt prinsertis and.

877
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,559
Papers And dad gets his lawrence from His sonny the,

878
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,440
dealer who's a few weeks to the world but loll

879
00:59:55,639 --> 01:00:00,119
and d dance sisters out just five doing the bank.

880
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,599
Speaker 1: His son's, hours but she owns.

881
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: Miles ride that's his gift from his.

882
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 11: Father stop apples be at one hundred miles per.

883
01:00:09,639 --> 01:00:12,239
Speaker 4: Hour the cold gain in penc.

884
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,679
Speaker 11: Upple she'll find the gut of what.

885
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: My last rself and see those stellar.

886
01:00:23,039 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Fast, so according to one contributor on Song, meanings And

887
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:18,960
i'm Very i'm suspect of, this BUT i did look other.

888
01:02:19,079 --> 01:02:25,400
Places they. Said this is a satirically, satirical dark dystopian

889
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:28,639
nightmare horror film where the establishment and the adults of

890
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:31,599
the world are assaulted by their old children due to

891
01:02:31,639 --> 01:02:34,559
the way they were. Raised an entire generation who were

892
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,760
spoiled and taught that everyone wins a, trophy brought up

893
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,280
on alcohol and razor, blades suddenly rebel against their upbringing

894
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,239
and attacked their own hypocritical parents with brats in battalions

895
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:52,440
And molotov milk bottles while militant mothers are hiding in their. Basements,

896
01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:56,159
luckily by the end of the, matinee the protagonist's parent

897
01:02:56,320 --> 01:03:00,719
finally win the day by employing The Colgate, invisible only

898
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,159
to find out that these are not their own children at.

899
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:06,280
ALL i laughed to myself at the men and the

900
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,599
ladies who never conceived of those billion dollar. Babies i'm

901
01:03:10,679 --> 01:03:13,239
not really sure that anyone But alice really knows the

902
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:18,280
meaning of this, song BUT i guess it's kind of

903
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,880
close to where WHAT i. Thought SO i reached out

904
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,079
To Dennis, dunaway the bass player of the Original Alice cooper,

905
01:03:26,159 --> 01:03:28,760
group BECAUSE i am lucky enough to be able to do.

906
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,840
THAT i asked him if he had any fun facts

907
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,800
About Generation, landslide and here's what he sent. Me, Neil,

908
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,360
Michael Alice glenn AND i were on the top floor

909
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,639
of a hotel in The Canary. Islands the band were

910
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,639
the very first people to stay in the brand new.

911
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:49,039
Hotel we needed another song for The Billion Dollar babies,

912
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:51,920
album but we had to create something from. Scratch we

913
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,920
weren't getting anywhere Until neil started playing the beat and

914
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:57,880
then it fell into place in one. Afternoon then we

915
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,599
returned to THE uk to record it In Morgan. Studios

916
01:04:00,719 --> 01:04:03,199
we had to finish overdubs on several tracks we had

917
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:07,840
recorded at The gileskie estate In, Greenwich, connecticut plus recording

918
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,639
a couple of new Tracks Unfinished suite And Generation. Landslide

919
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:17,239
but Drunkards Harry nilssen And Keith moon kept barging into

920
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:22,280
our studio and interrupting our, sessions and so it became

921
01:04:22,639 --> 01:04:25,239
very difficult For neil AND i to hould the tempo

922
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,000
steady due to the feeling that we had to hurry

923
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:30,920
up and finish recording the songs before those guys showed.

924
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:38,320
Up and then he, added it's probably my favorite Lyrics

925
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:43,360
alice ever, wrote WHICH i love so. Much so thank

926
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,360
you To dennis Done away so much for this BECAUSE

927
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,480
i thought it was. Amazing AND i would be remiss

928
01:04:50,599 --> 01:04:53,320
IF i didn't mention That dennis will be on The

929
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,199
rock And Roll channel On Talk Shop live tonight at

930
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,280
nine pm with collectibles and signed Merch AND i already

931
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:10,400
spent too much money tonight tonight being when tonight? Tonight

932
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:16,239
Oh i'm sorry whatever tonight is Currently, sorry It's july twenty.

933
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,719
Speaker 6: First, yeah so it will have already happened by the

934
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:20,880
time everybody Gets.

935
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: Well my fellow crambones can can check it.

936
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,559
Speaker 6: Out we got the inside track now nobody else. Knows,

937
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:36,280
awesome all, right all, SET i don't want to step

938
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,400
on you if you get more.

939
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,079
Speaker 1: All, SET i just want to say thank.

940
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 7: You we can.

941
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: Tennis, yeah that was.

942
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:44,039
Speaker 2: It.

943
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 6: Yeah WELL i got to meet him once through you

944
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:52,159
at one of the film, festivals so happy to chat

945
01:05:52,199 --> 01:05:53,280
and all. That, yeah that was very.

946
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: Cool oh my, gosh. Amazing and he's been on my

947
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:02,480
show quite a few, times at least three but probably

948
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,239
four THAT i can think.

949
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 8: Of his wife is super.

950
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:07,719
Speaker 6: Nice, yes his.

951
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: Wife he came on to talk about his. Book he

952
01:06:12,119 --> 01:06:17,320
came on With cindy ALTHOUGH i kicked him off talk

953
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,800
to talk about designing clothes for The Alice cooper. Group

954
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:28,920
he came on With michael boy a boy yeah yeah,

955
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,280
yeah to talk about his band as being a roadie

956
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,760
For Alice cooper. Band, anyway you can check all those

957
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,480
out if you go back to our podcast on the silver.

958
01:06:38,599 --> 01:06:41,400
Screen Excellent Hudson River radio Dot.

959
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 6: Com that's, right thank, You. Mercedes all, right we have

960
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,360
one more to, go AND i went with a. Song

961
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:49,599
she's never going to admit, it BUT i think you'll

962
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:53,480
all agree with. Me gail puts this on loudly every

963
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:58,599
time she's driving home from church every. WEEK i know,

964
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,519
it you all know. It she won't admit, it but

965
01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:05,119
we're talking about The Humpty dance By Digital. Underground oh my,

966
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,280
god you know she. Does before we go any further,

967
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:12,679
alleys that's, right Prand, bones let me show you my

968
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,559
Official Digital UNDERGROUND t shirt that was gifted to me.

969
01:07:15,599 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 4: THAT i forgot to put. On, nice so.

970
01:07:18,239 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: Nice you KNOW i only heard that song once and

971
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,960
it was at a. Wedding, YEAH i believe.

972
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 6: It, Yep i'm Thinking i'm Wearing Digital underground t shirts

973
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:30,239
to the symphony. Rehearsals now, one let's.

974
01:07:30,039 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: See what happened, nice.

975
01:07:33,199 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: All?

976
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,079
Speaker 6: Right so the Group Digital, underground they kind of grew

977
01:07:36,159 --> 01:07:39,400
out of the influence Of Parliament. Funkadelic you could call

978
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,079
them one, band two bands headed By George, clinton somebody

979
01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:44,760
THAT i don't think we've talked about, yet somebody who

980
01:07:45,199 --> 01:07:48,079
we will be talking about. Soon. Now each band was

981
01:07:48,159 --> 01:07:52,199
known for having rotating roster of, musicians known as a music.

982
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,960
Collective George clinton was the steady, guy and he would

983
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,519
bring in people and many of whom would go on

984
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,760
to their own successful. Careers they got their influence from all,

985
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:07,199
over including doo, wop early, Motown Jimi, hendrix Sly, Stone Frank,

986
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,400
zappa and they would subsequently influence the next, group many

987
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,639
of whom would go on to create the hip, hop,

988
01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:16,680
world rap and other rock and roll kind of overlapped

989
01:08:17,039 --> 01:08:21,199
stuff like. That So Digital underground was really one guy

990
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:24,760
in the. Beginning Gregory. Jacobs he was born in nineteen sixty.

991
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,800
Three he grew up In, Tampa, florida wound up moving

992
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,800
To New York city when his parents. Divorced he played

993
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,079
the drums in, school but wound up trading them for.

994
01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:37,279
Turntables when he first started hearing the beginnings of hip

995
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:40,000
hop come, together he was just drawn in by. That

996
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,119
he was hanging out with other young, DJs including a

997
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:47,600
friend who went by the stage name mc Shaw t Shah,

998
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:54,039
t WHICH i, love and he suggested That jacobs go

999
01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:58,439
by SHAW, g which he misheard AS, shotg and he

1000
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,880
liked that, better so he just went WITH. Shockg that's

1001
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:04,159
what he was known as in the hip hop. World

1002
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,119
he wound up going back To tampa and he dropped

1003
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:09,399
out of high school to form a LOCAL dj crew

1004
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,279
and they actually got booked a lot for a lot of,

1005
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:16,359
events especially a weekly outdoor event that caught the attention

1006
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,439
of the program director of a LOCAL r AND b radio,

1007
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,920
station who wound up HIRING shokg as a RADIO dj

1008
01:09:23,119 --> 01:09:25,359
at age. Sixteen how cool would that?

1009
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:25,520
Speaker 2: Be?

1010
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,039
Speaker 6: Wow at sixteen to be hired by your local radio

1011
01:09:29,119 --> 01:09:32,199
station back, then back when radio stations were actually.

1012
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: Something Something, yeah, Exactly so.

1013
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,159
Speaker 6: It's a big deal for all you youngins out. There

1014
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,800
just trust. Us but as things would, go he got

1015
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,760
himself fired because he had the tendency to play the

1016
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,399
long album versions of songs instead of the shorter radio,

1017
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,199
edits And neil could probably explain it better than anybody

1018
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,800
at a radio station OR tv station or. Whatever even,

1019
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,760
nowadays it's timed out. Perfectly the commercials are going to

1020
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,840
have to be played at a certain in. Time you

1021
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,760
need to stay on. Schedule and he did not fair

1022
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:04,520
enough to, say.

1023
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,199
Speaker 7: Long, Gone, yeah that was not a.

1024
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:11,359
Speaker 6: Thing you, know your sponsors paid for their commercial to

1025
01:10:11,399 --> 01:10:13,279
be played at four oh two, pm and it better

1026
01:10:13,319 --> 01:10:16,359
beyond at four oh two, pm you, know SO i

1027
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,600
can kind of understand. That so he found himself taking

1028
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,359
odd jobs and kind of backpacking around to make ends.

1029
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,119
Meet but while he was doing, that he would also

1030
01:10:25,239 --> 01:10:29,439
pop into music stores and trespass into college practice rooms

1031
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,840
to teach himself how to play the. Piano, okay not too.

1032
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,159
Bad this actually prompted him to go back to. School

1033
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,039
he got his, diploma and then he started taking music

1034
01:10:40,079 --> 01:10:43,560
classes at the local community, college and he did well

1035
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,159
enough with that to get, gigs get. Hired he learned

1036
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:49,079
enough and he had enough success that he wound up

1037
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:51,560
moving with his girlfriend To Los angeles to look for bigger.

1038
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,039
Opportunities he wound up settling in The San francisco area

1039
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,319
and started working at a music, store which gave him

1040
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,479
steady income and also gave him access to all the

1041
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,880
new up and coming toys that were coming about in

1042
01:11:04,319 --> 01:11:06,239
the nineteen. Eighties this was when you were starting to

1043
01:11:06,279 --> 01:11:10,680
see more and more digital, stuff the, keyboards, synthesizers, sequencers,

1044
01:11:11,039 --> 01:11:13,359
samplers all that kind of, stuff and when you don't

1045
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:15,039
have to buy it and you have access to, it

1046
01:11:15,159 --> 01:11:18,000
it's kind of kind of. Cool so good for. HIM,

1047
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,880
shokg along with two, friends released a single on a

1048
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,760
small local label which got them signed to a slightly bigger,

1049
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,479
Label Tommy Boy. Records and getting signed To Tommy Boy

1050
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,279
records resulted In Digital underground's biggest, album known As Sex

1051
01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:36,920
packets in nineteen ninety and get the word sex in,

1052
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:39,880
there it gets everybody's. Attention there you, go and it.

1053
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,680
Worked the original plan was for them to be a serious,

1054
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:48,520
group addressing serious topics you, know in society and all

1055
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,840
that kind of. Stuff but as hip hop took, off

1056
01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:53,560
a lot of groups started doing exactly that they would

1057
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,119
write about serious, topics so they went in the complete opposite.

1058
01:11:57,159 --> 01:12:00,560
Direction music for fun and music for entertainment meant p

1059
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,560
funk style like their, Heroes Parliament, FUNKADELIC shockg would perform

1060
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:12,199
as several alter, egos using different, voices, voices different, styles

1061
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,479
often within the same, song so it would sound like

1062
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,720
a duet or a, trio but it was just him

1063
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,680
doing all different. Voices fans even thought it was a

1064
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,880
group of different singers doing. It the record company thought

1065
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,800
it was a group of different performers doing, it to

1066
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,800
the point Where shakgi had to actually add more people

1067
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,640
to the Group Digital underground to make it a, group

1068
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:37,239
because it was him doing almost. Everything sometimes in, performances

1069
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,640
somebody else would be lip syncing and it would BE

1070
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,760
shockg turning his back or just be in the wings

1071
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,279
actually doing the voice with somebody on stage just lip

1072
01:12:46,359 --> 01:12:50,119
syncing it doing it, himself WHICH i. Love it's. Great

1073
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,079
he would go on to be successful working with other

1074
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:56,880
artists and his own solo, Career but today we're going

1075
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:01,239
to focus on one of his alter, Egos Humpty Hump gale's.

1076
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:06,920
FAVORITE shockg used such a different voice and different persona

1077
01:13:07,039 --> 01:13:10,960
that people just bought it as being a completely different

1078
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,199
person THAN. Shockg he wore the groucho glasses with a nose,

1079
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:21,680
coverings ridiculous over the top like pimp style clothing and

1080
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:26,560
what they called a buffoon persona on purpose love. It

1081
01:13:27,119 --> 01:13:29,560
they even wrote a fake bio and included it in

1082
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,840
the press kit for the, album saying That humpty's real

1083
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:38,640
name Was Edward Ellington humphrey The. Third he was the

1084
01:13:39,159 --> 01:13:47,000
former lead singer Of Smooth eddie and The, humpers and

1085
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:49,640
he wound up wearing the grouchow glasses and the fake

1086
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,479
nose after having an accident with a deep. Frar this

1087
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:59,119
was the backstory that they gave. Him, yes and people

1088
01:13:59,239 --> 01:13:59,560
just ate it.

1089
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:00,319
Speaker 2: Up it was.

1090
01:14:00,399 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 6: Real Digital underground's biggest hit was off that sex packet

1091
01:14:05,039 --> 01:14:08,640
album Called The Humpty, dance sung By humpty Hump Alter.

1092
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,600
Ego the backing track was put together from a bit

1093
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:17,079
of drum machine, sounds a, guitar and samples from a

1094
01:14:17,159 --> 01:14:19,880
bunch of different. Songs they used a drum loop from

1095
01:14:20,039 --> 01:14:23,479
sing a simple song By slying The Family. Stone there's

1096
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,920
a handclap sound that comes in partway through the song

1097
01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:28,720
that was from a theme From The Black hole By,

1098
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,439
parliament and a vocal sample From let's Play, house also By.

1099
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,960
Parliament this is when the lawsuits started flying over the

1100
01:14:36,039 --> 01:14:38,720
use of samples in, songs but it hadn't been settled,

1101
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,319
yet so they kind of got away with, it almost

1102
01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:44,600
flew under the. Radar but in, turn The Humpty dance

1103
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,199
would then go on and itself be sampled in well

1104
01:14:47,239 --> 01:14:50,880
over one hundred songs that became popular, too so they

1105
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,560
kind of started this as it moved. Forward the whole

1106
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,680
point of the song is the overinflated ego Of humpty

1107
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,640
talking about himself and how great he is and.

1108
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:03,199
Speaker 4: All this kind of.

1109
01:15:03,239 --> 01:15:06,079
Speaker 6: Stuff but the other message is that it's a dance

1110
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:08,720
everybody can, do which really. Easy it's very. Inclusive it

1111
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,199
doesn't matter who you. Are everybody get out on the

1112
01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:13,720
dance floor and everybody have a good. Time, so, Yes

1113
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,039
humpty's being a bit of an, egotist but everybody come

1114
01:15:17,119 --> 01:15:19,680
out and enjoy themselves and get on the dance. Floor

1115
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:22,760
and of COURSE i picked this song Because humpty claimed

1116
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:28,800
that he once got busy in anybody a burger king.

1117
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:44,239
Speaker 15: Bathroom, right stop what you're, doing Because i'm about to

1118
01:15:44,399 --> 01:15:46,319
ruin the image and the style as you're used.

1119
01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 5: TO i look, funny but, Yo i'm making. Money see so, yo,

1120
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:51,279
WORLD i hope you're ready for, me.

1121
01:15:51,319 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 2: AND i got the.

1122
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 5: Round i'm a little fooling down and my sounds laid

1123
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,760
down by the. Underground i'm Drinking Palla. Hennessey you got

1124
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,760
on your, shelf so just let me do. Myself my

1125
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,760
name Is, humpty pronounced with the. Humpty your, ladies oh

1126
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,319
HOW i like to fump thee and love rappers in

1127
01:16:07,399 --> 01:16:10,039
the top. Ten please allow me to pump. Me i'm

1128
01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:13,000
stepping tall on, y'all and just Like Humpty, dumpty you're

1129
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,680
gonna fall and the stereos plump.

1130
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,359
Speaker 2: ME i like to. RHYME i like my, beat, Funky i'm.

1131
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,039
SPUNKY i like my holp. Meal love. Me i'm sick

1132
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:23,560
with this straight gas the, mact but SOMETIMES i get.

1133
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 5: RIDICULOUS i leave a bun of crackers in your.

1134
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 2: Liquorice are your fat? Girl come? Here are you taking? This?

1135
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,319
YEAH i got your. Fat look at. Me i'm skinny

1136
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,000
and never stop me from getting. Busy i'm a. FREAK

1137
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:36,359
i like the girls with the. BOOM i once got

1138
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,640
busy in a burger king. Bathroom i'm. Crazy allow me

1139
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,560
to amaze. Thee they, Say i'm uggly gonna just don't FaZe.

1140
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,119
Me i'm still getting in the girls, dance AND i

1141
01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:55,439
even got my whole. Dance come, on come, on you

1142
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,239
check me, Out, john just watch.

1143
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:03,039
Speaker 10: Me do you know What i'm?

1144
01:17:03,159 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: Doing come, ON i. Do people say you're, humpty you're

1145
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,640
really funny. Looking i'm all right CAUSE i get things.

1146
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 5: Cooking you're, stead you're. Gread you're constantly trying to compare,

1147
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:19,560
me but you can't get near.

1148
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: Me i'm giving more on c and on the floor

1149
01:17:22,159 --> 01:17:23,640
me all the girls they adore.

1150
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,359
Speaker 5: Me oh, yes, Ladies i'm really paying to see it

1151
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:28,319
because in the sixty nine my humpty nose will tickle

1152
01:17:28,359 --> 01:17:29,279
your Rib my nose is.

1153
01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 2: Big i'm not a shamed big like a. Prickle i'm

1154
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,960
still getting. PAID i get laid by the. Ladies you.

1155
01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:37,760
Know i'm in, charge no palm, living and my nose is.

1156
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,439
LARGE i get. STUPID i shoot a narrow like cute.

1157
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,119
Speaker 5: Bit i'll use the word that do me not yet

1158
01:17:42,359 --> 01:17:44,199
Like Luke, TIN i, sang don't do what you? Like

1159
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,159
and if you missed, It i'm the one who say

1160
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:48,640
just grab them in the. BISCUITS i also told you.

1161
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,560
Speaker 2: THAT i like to. Bite, well, YEAH i guess the

1162
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:51,760
sign me a. SAUSO i like to.

1163
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,520
Speaker 5: Write oh, yeah the dude is give humpty a. Chance

1164
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,039
and Now i'm gonna do my dad.

1165
01:17:58,279 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 12: Chance come on, yeah sea, man, Come i'll do the sex,

1166
01:18:06,279 --> 01:18:10,000
many come on, Top.

1167
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: I'll. Do they're winning with the winning love, hump, Y'all i'll.

1168
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:22,439
Do watch me do the hoppy. Hup oh, yeah that's the, break.

1169
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:28,000
Y'all let alone that base group right, here ud? Right really.

1170
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, NOW i told y'all a little bit about. Myself

1171
01:18:33,159 --> 01:18:34,479
let me tell you a little bit about this.

1172
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,239
Speaker 2: Dance it's real easy to.

1173
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 17: Do check it.

1174
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,359
Speaker 5: Out put some limit to the sign like my legs was,

1175
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,399
broken shaking a twitch and god LIKE.

1176
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,399
Speaker 2: I was Smoking cristy. Wack. Funky people say you look

1177
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:47,640
Like i'm on crack.

1178
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 5: Humpty that's all right because my body's in Merchan it's

1179
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:51,880
supposed to look like a fiddle of.

1180
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,399
Speaker 2: Conmulsion anyone can play this. Game this is my. Dance

1181
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,560
H ill humpty humps my, Name no, too will do

1182
01:18:58,680 --> 01:18:58,840
what the.

1183
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 5: Same you gotta dam when you appear to be in, pain, humping, funking,

1184
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,319
jumping jog, around shaking your rum and winning the jump.

1185
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,399
Speaker 2: Points a finger like a start telling him step. Off

1186
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:28,720
i'm doing the hump. Shot, Everybody come, on ye, up,

1187
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:30,960
yoh want to do the.

1188
01:19:34,079 --> 01:19:34,359
Speaker 12: Black?

1189
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 5: PEOPLE i do the, hefty do the come on white,

1190
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:43,680
PEOPLE i do the houghty, HUMP i do hup want to?

1191
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:48,359
Speaker 2: RECOND i do the houghty hep just keep. On some

1192
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,199
moments they help the.

1193
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 4: Up.

1194
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:58,399
Speaker 6: Damn let's JUST i just Saw neil add that to

1195
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:00,399
A spotify playlist you trying to.

1196
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:06,239
Speaker 7: Screen i'll ADMIT i did mention this while you, know

1197
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,079
well it was that's the first Time i've ever heard

1198
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:13,199
this song to full, disclosure.

1199
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 6: See gail's full of. IT i Believe, neil BUT.

1200
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 8: I didn't know it was a real.

1201
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 6: Song oh, yeah. Yeap all, right so.

1202
01:20:23,319 --> 01:20:25,199
Speaker 1: A lot of people that do think it's a real.

1203
01:20:25,279 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 6: Song what's a fake? Song that was a real. Song

1204
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,239
it was a big hit and it's still catchy AND

1205
01:20:31,279 --> 01:20:32,439
i still like. It so there you.

1206
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:38,399
Speaker 7: Go, WELL i Admit i'm not probably am, not and

1207
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,399
was not in the demographic that it was.

1208
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:42,279
Speaker 6: Aimed.

1209
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:43,159
Speaker 4: At nor Is.

1210
01:20:43,239 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 2: Gail.

1211
01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:46,199
Speaker 6: YEAH i was in high school when it came, out

1212
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:49,359
SO i was square in the middle of no. Excuse,

1213
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,039
yeah what year was, that nineteen Ninety.

1214
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,359
Speaker 7: Oh, okay, yeah, no, yeah, NO i was out of

1215
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:56,960
high school by.

1216
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:03,079
Speaker 6: Then well it's a happy, song but you, know AS i,

1217
01:21:03,159 --> 01:21:06,279
do we're going to bring it. Down, Unfortunately shakg died

1218
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,479
On april twenty, second twenty twenty, one at age fifty.

1219
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:13,239
Seven he was In tampa. Motel the medical examiner said

1220
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:16,680
that it was from an accidental overdose of, fentanyl, alcohol and. Metal,

1221
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,840
oh any one of those alone is not a good,

1222
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,560
thing but all three together is.

1223
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:23,560
Speaker 12: Not a good.

1224
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: Combo so oh that's.

1225
01:21:26,039 --> 01:21:28,359
Speaker 6: Sad, yeah but he was performing up till the. End

1226
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:29,680
he was still. Going he you, know he did a

1227
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,520
lot of guest appearances at other shows and all that

1228
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,119
kind of. Stuff and, yeah so he had a good

1229
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:36,520
success from when he started all the way to the.

1230
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 7: End so well from what you're, saying, yeah he was

1231
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,319
very clever with all the different. Personality yeah, yeah oh,

1232
01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:48,239
YEAH i was totally impressed by. That that was he

1233
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:49,720
had like a whole thing going. On he had a

1234
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,279
whole universe going totally.

1235
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 6: Totally and you, know if you if you want to

1236
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,640
go down again that rabbit hole of YouTube and watched

1237
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,319
all the videos At digital on The ground put, out

1238
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:02,199
you'll see the different personas it's it's all. Him so, yeah,

1239
01:22:02,399 --> 01:22:06,760
yeah very, creative so very. Catchy and with, that that's

1240
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,760
All i've got you, guys have any final thoughts before

1241
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,399
we wrap it, up pull the. Plug not a.

1242
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,039
Speaker 1: Thing i'm glad WHEN i WHEN i suggested. This AFTER

1243
01:22:15,159 --> 01:22:17,920
i suggested, THIS i, thought is this even gonna? Work

1244
01:22:18,039 --> 01:22:19,920
BECAUSE i can't think of, anything.

1245
01:22:21,079 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 4: And we all like a.

1246
01:22:22,039 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 7: CHALLENGE i thought That i'd go into a chain store

1247
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,239
and you, know just to, buy you, know some. Chains

1248
01:22:29,239 --> 01:22:30,920
they looked at me and they didn't know WHAT i was.

1249
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 8: Talking mm.

1250
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: Hmm, Anyway i'm proud of you all for coming up

1251
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,000
with something that was a good.

1252
01:22:36,039 --> 01:22:38,119
Speaker 6: ONE i thought they were great. SELECTIONS i THOUGHT i.

1253
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:41,239
Speaker 1: Thought they were really good. Too, yeah, yeah good.

1254
01:22:41,159 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 6: Topic all. Right thank you for, That, mercedes great. Selection

1255
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,520
thank you Cram, bones and thank you all for joining

1256
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,640
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1257
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,079
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1258
01:22:51,119 --> 01:22:52,840
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1259
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,720
Radio there is something for. Everybody we will be back

1260
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,239
next week with another brand new, episode even though we

1261
01:22:58,319 --> 01:23:00,800
haven't picked a topic. Yet we will see you then

1262
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,760
until next. Week be, safe have a great, weekend and peace.

1263
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 2: Out.

1264
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:09,199
Speaker 6: Everybody come rock Cop bottom and Tram.

1265
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 4: Okay bye.

1266
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:18,760
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1267
01:23:19,159 --> 01:23:22,880
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