WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.720 We had a bit of a late night, sir. That's 2 00:00:01.720 --> 00:00:03.560 what we've been discussing in hour number one. 3 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.639 Yeah, yeah, I was on the desk. I know. 4 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:17.480 Atlanta United has gone from the ten chance to getting 5 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:19.920 into the playoffs getting some help. 6 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:21.280 So I guess let's go. 7 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:23.280 Let's go all the way back to Decision Day, since 8 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:24.719 it's been a while since we've had the chance to 9 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:29.280 catch up with you. Overall thoughts on Decision Day in general, 10 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:33.320 the West saved its chaos till the bitter. 11 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.679 End, and I mean like the end of the end, and. 12 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:38.679 It was well done by our friends at MLS three 13 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.320 sixty and Apple TV and how that was handled, the 14 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:43.960 beauty of multiple screens, and then the chaos in the 15 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:44.920 Eastern Conference. 16 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:46.600 So if you would. 17 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:50.079 Please, sir, your observations on the chaos in general getting 18 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:51.320 out of the regular season. 19 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:56.119 Yeah, I mean yeah. The short of it is, this 20 00:00:56.280 --> 00:01:03.000 decision Jay doesn't disappoint right. The cool thing about it was, 21 00:01:03.119 --> 00:01:09.400 I feel like after like the biggest drama was in 22 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:12.200 the East, right, because you had four teams fighting for 23 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:18.439 two spots, various you know, possibilities. Atlanta needed like seventeen 24 00:01:18.480 --> 00:01:22.760 things that happened right for them and then when that 25 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:24.920 finishes and now you go, you know, you have a 26 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:26.760 slight break, right man, I think it's gonna be thirty 27 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:32.359 minutes and you go into the next the Western Conference games. 28 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.079 Like for the longest while, we just felt like, yeah, 29 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:39.040 this is kind of underwhelming, like you know, it's ho 30 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:41.879 hum here, right, and then yeah, it kicks in the gear. 31 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:45.840 And it's funny too because if you remember God all 32 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:49.640 these decisions. But I feel like it wasn't it last 33 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:53.560 year when or was it two years ago? There was 34 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:59.640 a decision I think it went against LA where Salt 35 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:02.920 Lake what the hell was it? Salt Lake had a 36 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.319 like a like a it didn't go to VR or 37 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.840 or the VR went like some crazy decision that got 38 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:19.039 missed or something resulted in I think LA getting bounced 39 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:20.159 out of the out of the playoffs, and. 40 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.240 A lot of Vanny got really mad about it. Yeah 41 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.680 I remember that, so uh so. 42 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:27.919 Yeah, flash forward and now, like you said, right, like 43 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.800 you know, the funny thing is when you have simultaneous kickoffs, 44 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.520 you get it right because there's no advantage, but you 45 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:39.159 really hope that somewhere there's like more stoppage time than 46 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.080 the rest because you get situations like we had where 47 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:46.360 you know, fans watching on phones. I mean, first of all, 48 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.319 did they not have Apple TV at at the Bank 49 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:56.599 of Stadium, right, Like they couldn't just pop that on 50 00:02:56.840 --> 00:03:02.080 and have it on the main The thought goreboard right 51 00:03:02.120 --> 00:03:04.560 instead of having all the fans to watch on their phones. 52 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:06.120 But uh, yeah, how cool is that? 53 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:06.360 Right? 54 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:13.319 Like just the the pendulum swings that we had at 55 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:16.919 the at the very death, literally right of of of 56 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:19.919 the regular season. That was that was trip. That was terrific. 57 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:25.560 And you end up with the Uh, let's let's start 58 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:27.800 with the Eastern Conference and work our way in the timeline. 59 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:33.639 You had uh, you had Philly collapse, you had DC collapse, 60 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.319 her have a collapse or collapse. 61 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:37.719 Yeah, and then and then and then they then they 62 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.719 had to be the ones watching the whole drama unfold 63 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.400 with uh, with Atlanta and Montreal. 64 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:47.319 And and you had Troy la scene and the team 65 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:50.599 after they realized they did not make the postseason have 66 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:54.080 their meeting and I'm guessing in the the the meeting 67 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:57.560 on the pitch it was like, okay, we didn't make it. 68 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.479 Whatever else that was said was said. And then they 69 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.719 go over and talk to the Ultras behind the net, 70 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.520 and I guess took the slings and arrows and tried 71 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:09.039 to applaud the Ultras for being there and everything, and 72 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.319 the the Ultras for DC United were less than pleased 73 00:04:13.360 --> 00:04:16.600 in the in the players stood and took it, you know, 74 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:20.000 And it was a rather one sided conversation. I'm fairly 75 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:23.519 sure while you had Troy Lacine and DC United plotting, 76 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:24.319 who was there still? 77 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.560 But also, if you're the Ultras, if you're any fan base, 78 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:33.079 right like, how does your team lay an egg of 79 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:38.680 that proportion, right like on the final day of the season, 80 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.639 and you didn't even need right they needed a point, 81 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.279 didn't they? They didn't even need three. And then it's 82 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:48.720 not like they lost one nil on a dodgy pk 83 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:54.920 mm hmm, like they got thoroughly outplayed three nil. That's 84 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:55.439 a bad look. 85 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:58.720 Not that close. It was. It was an it was 86 00:04:58.759 --> 00:04:59.600 an ugly showing. 87 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.959 And and then you mentioned the and this was the 88 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.680 other thing that concerned me is that the second half 89 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.560 didn't have unified starts because you had I mean, you 90 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.240 had the first half start at six ' ten. Everybody 91 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:14.199 else started there. Second half didn't have unified start times 92 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:16.120 because I think Atlanta was one of the last ones 93 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.040 to start in the second half because of the amount 94 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:21.160 of minutes that had been carried over in the first 95 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:21.720 forty five. 96 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.279 So traditionally, what you and I are used. 97 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:28.240 To seeing in the decision day over in Britain with 98 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:32.199 the brim is that you have second half starts, even 99 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:34.600 first half starts, even everybody's waiting around trying to figure 100 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:34.800 it out. 101 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:36.240 But you didn't have that in Major League Soccer. 102 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.319 So even with the advantage of time and you starting 103 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:41.480 ahead of time, you had to wait that much longer 104 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:43.279 to come up with a decision, and so you still 105 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:45.560 ended up with folks sitting there going and pulling what's 106 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:46.360 left of their hair out. 107 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.600 And you know, listen for me, I'm and we've had 108 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:54.720 this conversation just because of the nature of my job. 109 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:59.120 I'm literally always every match night for thirty eight match 110 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:04.040 nights on MLS three sixty. That's a good day to 111 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.160 be on it, even if you're just a casual fan, 112 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.720 right like, because of the whip around and because of 113 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:15.600 the chaotic nature of a chaotic league, especially on his 114 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:17.199 final day of the regular season. 115 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:21.639 And that happened in the Western Conference because you had 116 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.519 going in the idea of Lag and LA f C 117 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.240 chasing after it, and then it took a late equalizer 118 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.920 for Lag to be back on top. Then it was 119 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:36.560 a late goal. Then it was the chaos that was 120 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.680 attached to all of that, where you're thinking, okay, it's 121 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:45.240 Lags and then it turns into la f C's and. 122 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:51.160 Daniel steris yes, like if you're if you're, if you 123 00:06:51.319 --> 00:06:54.079 if you've got a board up right, and like who's 124 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:58.199 scoring the late winner or the late decisive goal here 125 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.720 for Houston? Uh huh, Daniel Stairs isn't going to be 126 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:02.120 your guy? 127 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:04.639 No, no, no. 128 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.279 Right and against his former team. 129 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:13.279 Yes, And the Marlin goal proved out to be a 130 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:17.680 goal difference difference maker because if everything was locked down 131 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.399 with the number of points, then the Marlin goal ends 132 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:25.079 up being the goal that gets them that particular category 133 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:26.920 if it had come down to it. So you had 134 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.639 chaos upon chaos if you stayed up until what I Meanwhile, 135 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.639 traditionally twelve thirty or so, but now this time around, 136 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.199 it was only like eleven thirty watching everything going on 137 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:41.680 in the western half of the planet, So it wasn't 138 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:43.839 it wasn't as bad of a late night, but it 139 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:44.680 was still a late night. 140 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:49.600 It's always a late night, yes, and that's absolutely true. 141 00:07:49.759 --> 00:07:55.680 So when it comes to the postseason, well, I guess 142 00:07:55.720 --> 00:08:00.639 this is almost senior superlatives time. But what team worries 143 00:08:00.720 --> 00:08:03.600 you the most? Who do you not want to face 144 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:06.279 in the East right now? And who in the Eastern 145 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.279 Conference do you think is the team that can be 146 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:12.879 bumped off the easiest? Which which one concerns you for 147 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.480 being a seated team that could get bumped out early? 148 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.720 And what team do you not want to face right now? 149 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.639 All right? So bumped off first? Right? 150 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:24.199 Yeah, how you can take it? 151 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:32.200 How have you wish Cincinnati? They've they've limped, I mean 152 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.320 literally down down the stretch with all of their injuries. 153 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:43.879 They never looked to be the same team that they've been. 154 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:50.279 And they face now a dangerous ny CFC team. Right, 155 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:55.600 that's that on their best day, you know, all right 156 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.519 there with the best in in in the league. So 157 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.200 seeded teams, Yeah, I would say that's a team right 158 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.440 like that, at least in the East, I think has 159 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.440 the best chance to get knocked off. We can, we 160 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.159 can go conference to conference and then in the West, 161 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:19.200 uh yeah, Columbus, Like it's like it's Columbus, like I, 162 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:23.679 it's funny, Like I I still feel like I'm one 163 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:27.799 of these I don't know, like not non believer, I guess, 164 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.000 And I don't know. Am I a non believer in 165 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.440 in Miami? It's hard to be at this, I don't. 166 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:33.919 I mean, because I think. 167 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:35.080 Head to head the crew are better. 168 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:36.960 Yes, I would agree. 169 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:42.080 Right, So, like, I think that's gonna be an unbelievable Eastern. 170 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:43.559 Conference final if it gets to them. 171 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:47.679 Unless Atlanta just blows the whole thing up. Well, I 172 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:49.559 mean possibility. 173 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:49.919 Yeah. 174 00:09:49.960 --> 00:09:52.440 We mentioned that Atlanta United is the only team that 175 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:55.440 has four points off of Messian Friends this year. 176 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:57.480 They have not lost. 177 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:05.080 Yeah yeah, so uh uh, Miami for Lauderdale has issues. 178 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:07.600 Messi and Friends have issues at the back. They do 179 00:10:07.919 --> 00:10:09.720 it is it is a point of it is a 180 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:11.080 point of parliamentary procedure. 181 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:12.240 They have issues at the back. 182 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.399 And I mean that back line, not Drake Calendar, even 183 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.799 though Calendar has been a little up and uppy, uppy 184 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.360 downy here in the last say a couple of weeks 185 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.639 of the regular season. But that back line I think 186 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:26.399 can be had. And if you have speed to get 187 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:32.720 around the midfield and can not let Miami. It's like 188 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:34.879 if you if you don't look at the back of 189 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.919 the jersey and sit there and are intimidated all you know, 190 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.840 holy ish, There's there's a guy named Messi. Holy Ish, 191 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:44.440 there's a seven foot two inch guy named Sergei Busquetz. 192 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:46.879 You know, holy ish, there's Jordi Albo. You know, holy ish, 193 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.679 there's Luis Suarez. They didn't get bogged down in that 194 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.600 at Mercedes Been Stadium and they handcuffed you know Messi 195 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:59.559 and I mean they can be had. They can be had. 196 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.519 I think it can be had before a possible matchup 197 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:03.240 with Columbus. 198 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:06.080 I'm just saying, yeah. 199 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:13.320 Even Orlando, right, if they thinking you on their trajectory. 200 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:19.360 They could pip. Yes, they can't. Western Conference. 201 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.519 Who of the seeded bunch you know, of the higher 202 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:25.440 seeds are you concerned about the most? 203 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:32.080 And then who do you not want to face right now? Oh? 204 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:32.919 Thinking capiss On. 205 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:44.240 Yeah. The seed that I'm concerned about the most I want, 206 00:11:44.279 --> 00:11:47.759 Like in my heart, I want to say Galaxy. Yeah, 207 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.080 because of their defensive deficiencies. 208 00:11:52.759 --> 00:12:01.320 Mm hmm. What about RSL, Yeah. 209 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.519 They're the four? Are they four? Right? 210 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:09.320 They? I think there's I think the three six I 211 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:10.320 want to say. 212 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:14.279 Yeah, so I'll flip to that because they have not 213 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:18.039 been the same team since Gomez left. Now, you know, 214 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:23.279 Luna looked really good, but it's still about chi Cho, right, 215 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:25.279 and chi Cho hasn't been chi Cho for for a 216 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:31.919 while now, ye, so for sure, Yeah that's a concern. Uh. 217 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.399 You know, I I really really would like to see 218 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:42.919 an l traffic O Western Conference Final, especially because of 219 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:46.679 what that meant on decision day. You know, the Galaxy 220 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:53.799 undefeated in Carson this year, but obviously l a FC 221 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.799 has the home field now, so I still I'm not 222 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:02.320 like if you if you asked about like a wild card, 223 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:07.360 Like I think Portland is this crazy wildcard in this 224 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.960 whole situation because they could score like seventeen goals in 225 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.320 a game that they might give up fourteen. True, but 226 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.240 I mean there's so much fun to watch, so on 227 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:21.120 the on the given day, they can they can mess 228 00:13:21.200 --> 00:13:25.679 ish up, so you know they're that kind of sneaky, 229 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:29.200 dangerous team there. But yeah, I think the team I 230 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:35.000 don't want to play is LAFC. Now it's not you 231 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:40.039 know that sets up for an LFC Columbus's Cup, but 232 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:41.960 so be it, because these are the two teams that 233 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.480 right now seem to be on that trajectory, right like 234 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:49.240 the biggest games and when a title is the line, 235 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:50.759 they seem to somehow find each other. 236 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:54.399 Dylan Butler imlosccer dot com at Dylan Underscore Butler on 237 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:56.799 the two hundred and eighty character app hanging out with 238 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:59.080 us when he's not the busiest man in the Northeast 239 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:00.879 having to call five men matches in a four day 240 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:02.919 period or five games in a four day period when 241 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:07.120 it comes to high school. Yeah, so soccer, soccer and soccer. 242 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.639 So he's got matches end games and games end matches 243 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:12.639 to roll through here as we get get into the 244 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.159 playoffs and kind of break everything down here. I mean 245 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:19.200 to your point about Portland. Portland, I think is tied 246 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.320 in the Western Conference for they're tied for second in 247 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:26.559 most goals scored in the Western Conference, and they have 248 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.240 that offense where you are right, they can score seventeen through. 249 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:33.720 Through multiple guys too. Doesn't mean like it's not like 250 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:36.279 it's a it's not like a DC situation where it's 251 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:40.000 Beenteke or nothing like it's you know, a Vander and 252 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:44.879 Rodriguez and Felipe and Mora and you know, they've They've 253 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:47.840 got a host of different guys who could score the ball. 254 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:52.039 And to your point about defense and giving up fourteen 255 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:56.519 a game, they are second in goals allowed in the 256 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:59.399 playoff teams in the Western Conference. They've given up fifty 257 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:03.679 six this season in thirty four games. Colorado is the 258 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.159 only team that's worse of giving up sixty. Colorado will not. 259 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:10.960 They've got to be concerned about Georgia Mihailovich, who was 260 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.840 pulled from his match with a serious injury in the 261 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.480 first half. 262 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.519 How is he going to look? Will he be at 263 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:18.399 one hundred percent? 264 00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.879 That's a kind of on fumes, you know, heading down 265 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:25.919 the stretch. You know they've got that tire that got 266 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:28.879 busted and they're just hoping to to get off the road. 267 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:29.879 You know, they're worried. 268 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.919 About Yes, like I don't have triple A and I 269 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:36.360 see the gas station at the X. 270 00:15:36.559 --> 00:15:39.159 Somehow limp my way over there to get help. 271 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:43.080 Yes, So that is so That's what I'm agreeing with 272 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:44.360 you about Colorado as well. 273 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:45.200 Colorado I have. 274 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.120 A concern because of injuries and just how they kind 275 00:15:48.120 --> 00:15:51.759 of faded into the postseason Portland. I mean, if you 276 00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:55.399 look at goals allowed. They're at fifty six, so that's 277 00:15:55.480 --> 00:16:00.519 eighth of nine in the Western Conference, and then before 278 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:06.360 them it is literally the fifty of lag So there's 279 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.919 a gap there, and then it's even you know, then 280 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:11.399 you get into those teams that are stout defensively, like 281 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:13.879 Seattle who only gave up thirty five. Stephan Fry had 282 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.960 eleven clean sheets this year, Houston at thirty nine. But yeah, 283 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:20.320 I think that if you're and and if you're if 284 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:25.120 you're Vanny Sartini, you've got to be just beyond pissed, 285 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:25.559 don't you. 286 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:31.080 Yeah, I mean the NYCFC situation, it's a little bit different, right, 287 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:35.840 like you're playing in baseball fields obviously, you know, let's 288 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:39.320 let's get the jokes in there, right, but it's teams 289 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:43.120 that are in the playoffs, right and they just now, 290 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:48.240 you know, think they could thank the Dodgers just are 291 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.759 able to get titty Field back. They were going to 292 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:54.919 be playing their playoff game a rebel arena. But that's 293 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:59.320 because of the tenants that are in that in those stadiums, 294 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:05.200 laying their most meaningful games. That's not the case at 295 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:08.279 BC plays and that's a bad luck. 296 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.720 And so do we know how this is gonna look, 297 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.599 I mean, does Vancouver get the home dressing room and 298 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:21.240 get to boot Portland to the visitors dressing room or 299 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.000 anything like this or because. 300 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.839 It's all honestly, I think, honestly, for Vancouver's sake, I 301 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.359 think you just treat it as a everything is a roadmatch, 302 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:33.519 like let's get you know, and and it's and it's 303 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:35.839 their familiarity as well, right, so like let's go to 304 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:40.400 the visitors locker room. Let's where the I mean, maybe 305 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.160 the kid will be different. I don't know, like it 306 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.240 might have to be different because of the seeds, but 307 00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:50.359 as far as the building goes and the operations and 308 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.759 all that, Like I it's a road trip. That's what 309 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:55.480 it is. If I'm Vancouver. 310 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.759 And just the frustrating you had. 311 00:17:58.839 --> 00:18:02.279 You won the eight, but because of other things in 312 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:05.799 the building, you get to be the nine, or you 313 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:07.079 get to be on the road. Is the eight to 314 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:08.920 take on the nine in a building where they have 315 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:13.920 been fairly fairly unbeatable this season Portland at home nine 316 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.559 three and five, eight three, eight and six away from home, 317 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:20.279 Vancouver fairly consistent. I mean there's six, seven and four 318 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.400 at home. At BC Place, there's seven, six, and four 319 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.200 away from home, So maybe if you look at numbers 320 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:28.319 then it's kind of sort of, you know, to a 321 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.960 slide advantage there, but Vancouver having to go on the 322 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.720 road and look at things. So right now, obviously with 323 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:39.880 Atlanta United in the win tonight is Vancouver and Portland. 324 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:43.480 I guess you're saying take the over in this one Island. 325 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.119 I guess, yeah, I'm not sure. I didn't look. 326 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:51.599 We can we can go over juice boxes and I can. 327 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:56.519 See this being uh a four to two game, mm hmm. 328 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.839 No, I definitely could see the over being the play here. 329 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:06.279 When it comes to this game, I just have it. 330 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:08.920 I just have it going super bananas foster off the 331 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:13.359 rails very very quickly as Portland is trying to outscore Vancouver, 332 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:15.799 and then Vancouver comes back and it turns it into 333 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.720 an absolute, an absolute zoo. But I do have a 334 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:22.839 worry about Colorado. They're the one late game on Saturday 335 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:28.039 night at LAG and I just that one could be 336 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.680 over quickly. I think that when it comes to being 337 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:32.599 in a series, I think that it could be over 338 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.079 quickly with Colorado and Lag just because of injuries and 339 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:39.240 travel and you see them fading into the the end 340 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:42.400 of the regular season, almost Orlando esque, almost like the 341 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.119 purple team for the Colorado Rapids and fading in. 342 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:49.119 And doing those kinds of things. Yike, shaggy. 343 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:54.079 We haven't even talked about postseason awards and what it 344 00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:56.839 means and what you would vote for and all these 345 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:02.279 kinds of things. When it comes to m VP. How 346 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:05.640 how are you when it comes to other sports? How 347 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.720 do you gauge your MVP voting? When when I mentioned 348 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:13.960 m VP, how do you vote for an MVP? And 349 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:15.880 other sports, how do you look at like your your 350 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.960 Yankees in baseball and and MVPs and things like that, 351 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.240 how do you view it in other sports? 352 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:26.039 Certainly for my Yankees, it's it's regular season and postseason 353 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:30.200 at this point because oh my god, John Carlos Stansen 354 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:34.359 just you know, boo booed in the regular season. But 355 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:37.400 he's like, hang on, wait for October. But I but 356 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.039 I digresses. Yeah, So so there's it's it's the definition 357 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:42.960 is the problem of it? 358 00:20:43.039 --> 00:20:43.240 Right? 359 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:47.480 Like? Is it the best player on the best team? 360 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:53.960 Not necessarily right? Is it the guy who brings who who? 361 00:20:54.960 --> 00:20:59.920 If that guy wasn't on your team, that team implodes, 362 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:04.640 you know, So I think it's I think it's you know, 363 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.799 but also it really can't be a last place team 364 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:08.119 because then what did that person. 365 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.200 Do so less? 366 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:16.839 Yeah, so so case in point, I think had d 367 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:19.400 C made the playoffs, I think a strong point could 368 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:24.279 have been made for Christian Beneke. I I I don't 369 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.960 think there's a player more valuable to their team's success 370 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:33.920 in MLS this year than Christian Beneke. But again we 371 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.279 mentioned all those parts around them, right, and I agree. 372 00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:40.680 I think I think when you look at a Vander 373 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.519 and his total goal contributions and you know, the Valeri 374 00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:50.079 esque type of season he's having, he warns consideration as well. 375 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:53.240 But I think ben Teke where you know, if you 376 00:21:53.440 --> 00:22:01.480 take ben Teke out, they're probably a wouldn't spoon team again, right, so, 377 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.279 but they didn't make the playoffs, so I think that 378 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:11.440 takes him out of the picture. So yeah, I mean 379 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:13.400 that that's the problem I think with with m v P, right, 380 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:23.759 like I think I think Messi will probably win it. 381 00:22:27.400 --> 00:22:34.880 I don't like I'm I I would go Kucho in 382 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:40.400 this situation, but I did like for for for a 383 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:44.440 good chunk there, I was team of Ander as well, 384 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:51.000 just hard too because they're you know, I mean I 385 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.880 I still think that they're they would score a chunk 386 00:22:54.920 --> 00:22:57.319 of goals with the other three or four guys I 387 00:22:57.440 --> 00:22:58.240 have in the mix there. 388 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.759 Yeah, I mean for me, I was team Kucho in 389 00:23:02.799 --> 00:23:05.319 the Eastern Conference, team of vander and the Western Conference 390 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.319 and then you can sort of out amongst yourselves and 391 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:09.000 figure it out. 392 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:10.240 But no, I am with you. 393 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:14.960 I My discussion is with an MVP, is it with 394 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.279 that individual? How how worse with how worse off would 395 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:23.359 they be? And so for me, I'm not denying. And 396 00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:26.000 this is for everyone who would vote for Lionel Messi 397 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:32.079 in this situation. They navigated his absence, they were they 398 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.839 were cool, they were fine without Messi, and David wants 399 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.559 to know what the record was sounds messy and it 400 00:23:37.640 --> 00:23:39.480 was basically half the season. 401 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:42.839