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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to your Eye on the Ball
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's
Speaker 2: Jagan Zalas. We're better known as a bitter boys. Ryan,
Speaker 2: You're not bitter Solier.
Speaker 3: I did not approve that time. I did not.
Speaker 2: I gave you that many months ago when you were
Speaker 2: talking about being bitter. I got the name yesterday. Whatever
Speaker 2: the name. He said, you're just a bunch of grumpy
Speaker 2: with Bill. I think no, but I'll say what he
Speaker 2: was saying to me, A bunch of bitter old You
Speaker 2: want to be positively enforced if twelve ninety would love
Speaker 2: to have you today, but we're gonna tell you whatever
Speaker 2: we think. Welcome to Tuesday, right where today it is
Speaker 2: closer to the football then then we were. You know what
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 3: This is like when Christmas is coming around, the days
Speaker 3: get slower, right, right, The days are getting slower because
Speaker 3: I feel like it should be Thursday and it's not
Speaker 3: it's Tuesday, and it's like it's like I want to
Speaker 3: open my presence. I want football to start. Don't even
Speaker 3: think it. I don't even think it. I don't even
Speaker 3: know if I got a credential. I sent him onning yesterday.
Speaker 2: You're back, so we'll see what happens. I'll be watching
Speaker 2: the game with you. Hope you have an extra ticket.
Speaker 3: No, my boy, I think it's crowded up in our areas.
Speaker 2: I'll go. I'll go with the games with Bill. Yeh Bill, Bill,
Speaker 2: our boy Bill, Uh yeah Bill, listener listener, Bill, yeah yeah. Okay,
Speaker 2: So welcome to Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: We only got one guest. Everybody else is too busy.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get a fantastic coach, high school coach
Speaker 2: and just coach uh Ted Ted Lugit. He'll be wango
Speaker 2: tagging his way on the show. Pat Dugit his cousin.
Speaker 2: We should have. I wish we had a can go
Speaker 2: tango that we could play Pat Nugent.
Speaker 3: You know what I feel like, I feel a bad
Speaker 3: show coming out. I feel a good coming on. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: by bad show, I mean it'll be low quality, but
Speaker 3: it'll be funny. It'll be entertaining that people watch.
Speaker 2: Actually, actually, let me tell you, Jay, they don't talk
Speaker 2: about the quality of the show. They think, hey, these
Speaker 2: two guys.
Speaker 3: Are pretty funny. You guys are just nuts.
Speaker 2: That was the start of that. Pat Nugent I tried
Speaker 2: to get Mo Tangara on. He didn't respond. I think
Speaker 2: he's doing some stuff in Phoenix. He lives in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Now real busy. He'll be here next week for the
Speaker 2: Lute Olsen camp. So let's maybe we'll get him this week.
Speaker 2: A lot of things going on here and maybe some
Speaker 2: volleyball coach, right or some.
Speaker 3: Trying we're trying to well, we're trying to get Arizona's
Speaker 3: new women's golf coach on sometime this week. Will also
Speaker 3: be going with the treat of stubs. The volleyball coach.
Speaker 3: They don't start for a couple of weeks, and we've
Speaker 3: got some some time. There's a media event for her
Speaker 3: on Thursday, but it's at five point fifteen, so won't
Speaker 3: be able to get to that. But or is that
Speaker 3: the soccer at by fifteen? Soccer's at five fifteen out
Speaker 3: of the Beckham Morrows. Anyway, but you know, we're trying
Speaker 3: to get these coaches on, you know, in pre season,
Speaker 3: just to you know, just get some of their thoughts
Speaker 3: on stuff happening. But you know, we wanted to get
Speaker 3: the new golf coach on a while back when she
Speaker 3: got here, but she had a lot of stuff to
Speaker 3: get herself. So we put in another request to try
Speaker 3: and get to this week. We might we might have
Speaker 3: her at the end of the week.
Speaker 2: And just after the fact that after the the announced
Speaker 2: that new facility at TCC, right the Country Country Club.
Speaker 2: So she she's fallen into a nice place. She's from
Speaker 2: Mexico originally, Yes, So you know, we had a great
Speaker 2: opportunity to come into a situation like that in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve with the new facility, a new fantastic facility.
Speaker 2: It's very cool. I see it.
Speaker 3: I see it every Tuesday when I go to the
Speaker 3: breakfast meeting. Is that that that I that I go to? Uh,
Speaker 3: it's it's just a nice looking facility. I mean I
Speaker 3: get there six fifteen in the morning and there's always
Speaker 3: you know, looks like it looks like U of eight
Speaker 3: you know players you know on the putty green or
Speaker 3: at the driving range and stuff.
Speaker 2: You lost me at six fifteen wait what I do.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because every Tuesday night I go,
Speaker 3: I gotta get up to five Monday night and Monday night,
Speaker 3: and I'm always up before the alarm. Right, I woke
Speaker 3: up at ten after five, wide awake, ready to go,
Speaker 3: you know, got up, jump in the shower, get my
Speaker 3: stuff gone, you know. But it's it's like I dreaded
Speaker 3: the night before, but I'm always up. It just doesn't
Speaker 3: it doesn't even matter anymore. I'll give you a gold
Speaker 3: old guy, get up in the morning.
Speaker 2: Reach into my drawer there and get a gold star
Speaker 2: out right. You can keep up for yourself too. Give
Speaker 2: it to you. Yeah, craick crack, gold cracker. Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: So we'll have Pat Nugent, Ted's cousin. Yeah, a three
Speaker 2: fifteen talk about some high school stuff, justin. He's back
Speaker 2: for another year. He had a fantastic year last year,
Speaker 2: got beat by his uh, his counterpart, his former former
Speaker 2: under understudy. I think it was just I want to
Speaker 2: try to reach out to him too, because he's not
Speaker 2: coaching anym or at least not this year. And see
Speaker 2: how life is. How you know, when you when you
Speaker 2: don't have something anymore, you've been doing it for all time.
Speaker 2: How peaceful that is.
Speaker 3: He'll miss it for a season, right right, I mean
Speaker 3: he'll he'll he'll go a season, okay, and then he'll
Speaker 3: he'll be back.
Speaker 2: Right right. But he has younger kids, so young guy
Speaker 2: so and he's younger kids, so I think he wants
Speaker 2: to spend some time with them, teaching them, you know,
Speaker 2: football stuff.
Speaker 3: High school football. Man, that's gonna be kicking into.
Speaker 2: Gear, that's pretty sure. Twelve days, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking up you know, football schedules right now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's a it's a things are gonna
Speaker 3: things gonna kick in the gear.
Speaker 2: Right. Do you have basketball basketball stuff on your own?
Speaker 2: You do? Okay, I'll leave it alone because it's been announced.
Speaker 2: It's just official now, but we'll I'll leave it alone.
Speaker 2: Oh the u c L a thing, Yeah, go ahead
Speaker 2: that We'll let him talk about it. Yeah, that guy right,
Speaker 2: Ted Nug's brother, h thank god. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well August twenty, No, well, it looks like I'm looking
Speaker 3: at it looks to schedules they start the same weekend
Speaker 3: as uh.
Speaker 2: Well, I saw that the Morales brothers posted. They think
Speaker 2: it's twelve twelve days. There might be the some southern
Speaker 2: Arizona ones. Maybe not too someone. Yeah, maybe we got
Speaker 2: to get the the charity game too. That actually that
Speaker 2: ken he pushed together. I think that's Oh yeah, the
Speaker 2: coaches coaches nadya.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, So for all the schedules, I'm saying they're
Speaker 3: starting is twenty twenty ninety ninth and thirty.
Speaker 2: It's fourteen sixteen days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's the same, basically the same weekend. As
Speaker 3: you know, Arizona gets this season starting.
Speaker 2: I normally they've started.
Speaker 3: A week or two yeah earlier, right, I still missing something.
Speaker 2: I still think I'm going to send somebody a note here.
Speaker 2: Well I thought I saw twelve days from today. But
Speaker 2: again I could be wrong, but I won't be mad
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: But now I you know, yeah, you think you think
Speaker 3: that some of these these people will get started now.
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Speaker 5: the Braves, but they're they're playing bad.
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Speaker 3: Okay, looking at uh okay, looking at Michael Mountain schedule.
Speaker 3: They do start on the twenty third. Yeah, see, that's
Speaker 3: that's a week earlier than so they're they're really just
Speaker 3: ten days away from their first game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm sure if they start, I'm sure others
Speaker 2: start too. Yeah, and not a lot of them.
Speaker 3: Just we need, you know, what we need to get
Speaker 3: with Javier and Andy to talk about. Okay, who's gonna be
Speaker 3: good this year? Who needs to come on our show?
Speaker 2: In fact, have you a note now and see when
Speaker 2: they're available. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Mike, come on. When eleven and two last year,
Speaker 3: and I think they both of their losses were I
Speaker 3: believe we're the CDO.
Speaker 2: We saw that one game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you We went to that game up and
Speaker 3: yeah that was a game. Okay, so they yeah, both
Speaker 3: he lost the CDO in the regular season, that's seventeen
Speaker 3: fifteen game.
Speaker 2: Then they lost a game to them in the play
Speaker 2: are running back from CEO who signed. He's a preferred
Speaker 2: walk on. They love him, they love him. He's just
Speaker 2: like a tank. Yeah. You know, he's a top notch wrestler,
Speaker 2: state champion time, and those dudes are tough as nails wrestling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I think he. I don't know if he'll get
Speaker 2: some time early because he is a preferred walk on,
Speaker 2: but the dude is good and he's tough. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I knew the running back coach. I talked to Harvey
Speaker 2: about him. What's today, tomorrow, Tuesday? I want to show
Speaker 2: them to talk about that. He's done very very well. Okay,
Speaker 2: So it wouldn't be surprising to me that if he
Speaker 2: goes in you know, blocks or what in.
Speaker 3: The scheme, whatever, he's gonna do whatever they asked him
Speaker 3: to do, he's gonna do and he's gonna do it well.
Speaker 2: I mean, the guys like that or you know, do
Speaker 2: that sure sure? Tell me was full of a team full.
Speaker 3: Of guys who considered themselves underdogs, you know, Scooby, right,
Speaker 3: Chuck Cecil, you know those kinds of guys that you know,
Speaker 3: say they they've got something to prove and they got
Speaker 3: to improved.
Speaker 2: You couldn't They couldn't tell them they couldn't do it,
Speaker 2: and they improved it.
Speaker 3: Right now, those are those are great guys that have around.
Speaker 3: You need some of those guys, no matter how we
Speaker 3: lead the rest of your team is, you need some
Speaker 3: of those guys. I mean, think about the fact that
Speaker 3: that you know, Levi Wallace right walked on at Alabama
Speaker 3: and you know, and and and ended up making an
Speaker 3: impact over there. Those kinds of guys who come in
Speaker 3: with I hate to use the cliche of a chip
Speaker 3: on their shoulder, but they just have an attitude of
Speaker 3: I know I'm good, I know I'm good enough to
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna prove it to watch me. Yeah. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: happens a lot more than we know because the guys
Speaker 2: who have that compared to the guys who just I
Speaker 2: hate to say this, that the kolid reeves where they
Speaker 2: go in and they entitled right, and they're they're fantastically
Speaker 2: good and talented, but they don't work at it. They
Speaker 2: lean on it.
Speaker 3: I mean, another guy they think of is Donnie salin right,
Speaker 3: another guy just gritty, just a gritty guy, earned a scholarship,
Speaker 3: made an impact on those football teams and the lady.
Speaker 2: You remember a guy and what I saw the script
Speaker 2: is way back and you were covering the team. I
Speaker 2: think manny o' loggi. Yeah, that dude was just a missile.
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, Yeah, people like you like you. You're
Speaker 2: not gonna get up. Yeah, And I don't know why
Speaker 2: that name sicks out, but it's just, you know, I
Speaker 2: remember the name. Those normal dudes who just beat the
Speaker 2: crap body.
Speaker 3: They just guys that go in there and they again,
Speaker 3: they're just saying I'm good enough for this. So those
Speaker 3: are always great guys to have around, presuming they have
Speaker 3: a little bit of talent. Right right, they might have
Speaker 3: a lot more that's the right word, guts or whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it, but you also got to
Speaker 3: have some Scooby right right was a talented, you know,
Speaker 3: football player. He could play football, he knew how to
Speaker 3: play football. But on top of that, he was out
Speaker 3: there saying, you know, you guys are gonna have to
Speaker 3: you know, stop me. I mean Jake Fisher, right, I
Speaker 3: was just gonna say that. Jake's another guy right undersized,
Speaker 3: but he just felt, you know, I've got something to prove,
Speaker 3: and he went out there and improved it.
Speaker 2: Luke k.
Speaker 3: That's the running back from oh, yes, the guy, we
Speaker 3: knew that, I just you know less, you know, I
Speaker 3: was never going to pull that.
Speaker 2: Look forward to seeing those guys. There's gonna be a
Speaker 2: lot of those guys. Just guys. Oh that guy.
Speaker 3: Arizona the school that tends to have guys like that, right,
Speaker 3: because you know, they're not a bunch of five star
Speaker 3: guys that are filling up their roster. They got guys,
Speaker 3: and they and a lot of coaches purposely leave some
Speaker 3: spots open for guys like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not to generalize like be accused of yesterday.
Speaker 2: That's just I wason, right. I mean, you get your four's.
Speaker 3: And your yeah, occasionally got four maybe a five, But
Speaker 3: you a bunch of three star guys and you coached
Speaker 3: the hell out of them. But they're also guys who,
Speaker 3: you know, come in and say, Okay, I felt like
Speaker 3: I was a four or five star guy, but I've
Speaker 3: got three. So I'm gonna show you that I should
Speaker 3: have been.
Speaker 2: Well, look a look at the two dudes. Glenn Parker,
Speaker 2: who didn't play football till later in his life, went
Speaker 2: to a JC. Just a big dude who worked his
Speaker 2: ass off that became a pro, a long time pro. Right,
Speaker 2: John Pino was.
Speaker 3: Not just a skinny dude who's tall, and moved.
Speaker 2: Him around, moved him from the defense of the offense.
Speaker 2: Then he became a star.
Speaker 3: Right, not just to Arizona, but in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Maybe you wouldn't they you and I will be okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta lose some weight, all right? How did you
Speaker 2: better keep that way? And stay on the line. Stay
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Speaker 3: I'm a big enough to plug a hole. All right,
Speaker 3: let's take our break. Where to come back? We got
Speaker 3: Pat Nugent. Mike, a Mountain High school football coach, had
Speaker 3: a great season eleven and two last year, uh cdo
Speaker 3: got in the way of a state championship. But we'll
Speaker 3: see what his thoughts are for the upcoming season. Maybe
Speaker 3: pick his brain a little bit on all right, who's
Speaker 3: to be a good pat? Beside yourself?
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera
Speaker 1: and Jacin Salmaz. This is I on the Bar on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Iying the Ball Hero Fox Sports
Speaker 2: fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, he's jagin zawiz now and
Speaker 2: if we have Pat Nugent and microm Mountain High School
Speaker 2: football coach, how are you doing Pat there?
Speaker 4: Guys, thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I wanted to go into this just kind
Speaker 2: of gently. But not Jenny. It's probably not jelly, jeer.
Speaker 2: You had a fantastic year, right, you only lost to
Speaker 2: CEO the state champions twice. So what do you tell
Speaker 2: your kids moving forward? And when you had a fantastic
Speaker 2: year but you didn't win at all?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, it's eedy for us because
Speaker 4: everything was new for us. I mean that was really
Speaker 4: our you know, only our second full season and we
Speaker 4: had never even kids the never even heard of a
Speaker 4: playoff game before, and for us to make through the
Speaker 4: state semifinal, you know, and it's a growing process, just
Speaker 4: like in every level of sports. You've got to learn
Speaker 4: how to to get there. And I think the first
Speaker 4: part was learning how to get to the playoffs and
Speaker 4: learning how to win a playoff game. And everything was
Speaker 4: new for us, so that taste, you know. And Cdo
Speaker 4: had lost in the state semifinals a year before, so
Speaker 4: they had kind of known what it was like and
Speaker 4: that expectation was, you know, ready to go. So that's
Speaker 4: a great thing for us. Everything we talk about is, hey,
Speaker 4: you've been there, done there. Now you've got to take
Speaker 4: it to another staff. And that's kind of what we've
Speaker 4: built on all year.
Speaker 3: Do you I mean, do you guys ever not talk
Speaker 3: about it right when you're when you're trying to get
Speaker 3: the thing going, you know what I'm trying to, Do
Speaker 3: you move on? Or do you just say no, We're
Speaker 3: going to hang on to this because it's gonna it's
Speaker 3: going to keep us fired up.
Speaker 4: And now we give us something we've hung on. And
Speaker 4: you know, one of the great things I've had fortunate
Speaker 4: to be with Richard Sanchez the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: Richard won a state title and he's a continuous guy
Speaker 4: about putting in the kid's head about winning state titles.
Speaker 4: And that's our goal and that's really our only goal
Speaker 4: that we have is we've been close, but we've got
Speaker 4: to get further. So everything we do is think about
Speaker 4: think about what we didn't get done. Now you have
Speaker 4: to do this even more and every one of our
Speaker 4: kids and the expectations are high, without question, makes it
Speaker 4: a little bit more pressure going, but the kids know
Speaker 4: what it's about. We've had a tremendous offseason and we're
Speaker 4: excited for the year.
Speaker 2: And how many of those kids do you have back?
Speaker 4: We're pretty loaded. We got seven starters on defense back
Speaker 4: and six starters on offense back, so we've got a
Speaker 4: heck of a team. Twenty nine seniors that are back
Speaker 4: from last year's team, so we're in a good situation.
Speaker 3: Wow, is that a big I mean, is that an
Speaker 3: unusually big number?
Speaker 4: Ah? Yeah, you know, and remember this is a new school,
Speaker 4: so that was last year was our first senior class,
Speaker 4: so that this group is really the first real big
Speaker 4: freshman class we had, so we're kind of narrowing down
Speaker 4: our sophomore class a little smaller. But this was that
Speaker 4: first real Micah Mountain group that came in and helped
Speaker 4: our program a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must be nice for you to have that luxury.
Speaker 2: When you first got there, which was not too long ago,
Speaker 2: did you think it would take time? What was your
Speaker 2: building process or your time frame?
Speaker 4: Well? I thought we were all crazy. We left a
Speaker 4: tremendous Sienega program and we were on top of everything
Speaker 4: over there, and we came over to build Micah Mountain,
Speaker 4: and I never I thought I was crazy. There was
Speaker 4: many days sitting in the parking lot thinking I was nuts.
Speaker 4: What the heck was I doing? And you know, all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you know that that first full season,
Speaker 4: we beat CDO in the last game of the year
Speaker 4: and won the region, so we didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: That ended six and four with the region championship, so
Speaker 4: we kind of knew it was going to go quickly.
Speaker 4: But obviously get into a state semifinals last year and
Speaker 4: only our first our second season was pretty special. So yeah,
Speaker 4: we're kind of, you know, excited, but you know, most
Speaker 4: of my guys were from the Sienega era and they
Speaker 4: know what about We added Richard to our staff and
Speaker 4: we've all been there before. We know it's expectation are
Speaker 4: so the kids brought into everything we've said the last
Speaker 4: couple of years.
Speaker 2: So you've mentioned him twice. Now, what does coach Lopez
Speaker 2: bring to you? Yes, just what I said, you said,
Speaker 2: Lopez Lopez. I'm sorry, I'm thinking Richard, you know, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, Jim, thank you, Jim, my partner, Jim. I
Speaker 2: have a coach Lopez. His name is nothing. So so
Speaker 2: what did he bring? What do you bring to a
Speaker 2: long time? Everyone knows him. He's great at what he does.
Speaker 2: What does he do to compliment you?
Speaker 4: Well, Richard's a diehard his work ethic, he's on. He's
Speaker 4: sixty eight years old and he's here twice a day
Speaker 4: and he's he's committed as fully go. And I think
Speaker 4: that's what I thought of many years, thirty four years
Speaker 4: I've been doing this Richard. Richard keeps me on task
Speaker 4: and make sure I'm doing everything right for the kids.
Speaker 4: And he's put that heart nose attitude into our kids
Speaker 4: and really just that work ethic. Richard volunteers based pretty
Speaker 4: much all of his time. He's here in the mornings,
Speaker 4: here in the afternoon, and he loves being around the
Speaker 4: kids and just that hard, hard at it, hard work.
Speaker 4: Yet because it just been great for us.
Speaker 2: You must be and this is an observation, you must
Speaker 2: be comfortable in your own skin because a lot of
Speaker 2: coaches wouldn't bring a guy like him on, you know,
Speaker 2: because they're kind of maybe I don't know, not inconsistent,
Speaker 2: but afraid of the guy coming in and may be
Speaker 2: superseding you. But you know what, I'm saying you're there,
Speaker 2: you know that he's going to help you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know a lot of people say that to me,
Speaker 4: and trust me, Richard and my butt heads quite a
Speaker 4: few times. And he's old school. I'm trying to keep going,
Speaker 4: but you know, he's made me better and he's made
Speaker 4: our program. And when you want, you wanted to get
Speaker 4: to a high level, you got to bite the bullet
Speaker 4: a little bit and understand that there's more that people
Speaker 4: can bring to you to help you out. And I've
Speaker 4: been really fortunate to have some tremendous coaches in my
Speaker 4: career and that's what we've done.
Speaker 3: So we're talking to Pat newgrien head, the head coach
Speaker 3: at Mike Mountain playoff team last year eleven and two. Pat,
Speaker 3: I mean, you look at that record, you go, you know,
Speaker 3: holy hell, but and then you got all these guys
Speaker 3: coming back. So tell us something about your team. You
Speaker 3: know what the guys you got coming back? What do
Speaker 3: you think you guys are going to look like? And
Speaker 3: you know what are people going to have to watch
Speaker 3: out for when they when they play you.
Speaker 4: Well, our defensive line is completely back. They had seventy
Speaker 4: thirty one tackles last year and the seven of them
Speaker 4: are all back. And Jimmy Jimmy Leon has just been
Speaker 4: an outstanding football player. He had seventeen sacks alone last
Speaker 4: year by himself, and he's six four three, two hundred
Speaker 4: and thirty pounds, getting recruited, just got offered by New
Speaker 4: Mexico State, and you know, he's a special young man.
Speaker 4: But like I said, we've got the entire defensive lineback
Speaker 4: and we've got some skilled kids back and a linebacker
Speaker 4: that was a sophomore last year, second on our team.
Speaker 4: So he's a beast too. But the other thing too,
Speaker 4: is we're very fortunate nominate schools and say this in
Speaker 4: a building program. But our quarterback's going on his fourth
Speaker 4: year as a starting quarterback. He brought him in as
Speaker 4: a freshman, and Dan and Thornton's just had a tremendous
Speaker 4: career here and you know, we're hoping for him to
Speaker 4: take us to another level. We got both two of
Speaker 4: our top three running backs are back, and four five
Speaker 4: offensive linemen are all back, so we're excited about where
Speaker 4: we're going.
Speaker 2: So what did you see in the freshman kid did
Speaker 2: to start your your at the quarterback spot?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Really, it wasn't too bad because we were all sophomores,
Speaker 4: you know, so he'd fit into the mix with all
Speaker 4: the other sophomores. That was our very first year. We
Speaker 4: only played six varsity games that year, so he looked
Speaker 4: just like the other sophomores if we had on the field.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't wasn't a big adjustment. But he came
Speaker 4: in as a sophomore, played this with a bunch of seniors,
Speaker 4: and obviously we looked pretty good that year. So he's
Speaker 4: done a good job. He's had a big career and
Speaker 4: either he learned the system pretty well and we're hoping
Speaker 4: big things from him.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about me if I could. Uh,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the kid from CEO, Kidd and Luke, right.
Speaker 2: You faced him a couple of times. You probably know
Speaker 2: him in the family or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we still have nightmares about him. So that was
Speaker 4: something cold sweat.
Speaker 2: What do you think that if he does get some
Speaker 2: time at Arizona, which's just a tough kid, what do
Speaker 2: you think that theyll seeing him or do see them?
Speaker 4: You know, the one thing everybody understands that it's hard
Speaker 4: for any refreshman to come in play at a high
Speaker 4: level like us. You know. I mean here talk about
Speaker 4: d you want athletes are twenty one, twenty two years old.
Speaker 4: Kat's a great high school player, but he's only eighteen,
Speaker 4: nineteen years old, and it's going to take time for
Speaker 4: him to get used to the speed. The speed of
Speaker 4: the game is so different at the next level, and
Speaker 4: same thing for those guys, guys going to pros and
Speaker 4: that's where he really learned. So I don't expect much
Speaker 4: from Kaden this year, but he's going to grind it
Speaker 4: out and he's going to get on that field at
Speaker 4: some point. You know. I was very fortunate to work
Speaker 4: with Jared Tevis played for me, and Jared was a
Speaker 4: walk on at USE. Nobody knew who he was for
Speaker 4: three years. But what a great ending career he had
Speaker 4: at u A his last two years, you know. So
Speaker 4: he'll be kidding. Louke will be the same type.
Speaker 3: Of kid we've talked about, guys like that that. I
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe the cliches call him blue collar guys
Speaker 3: or whatever, but guys will come through, particularly at Arizona
Speaker 3: like that. But those things, guys like that start being
Speaker 3: that way in high school. You know, what, what do
Speaker 3: you see in a guy like that? You mentioned uh uh,
Speaker 3: you know you mentioned Gavin, you know, you know the
Speaker 3: Jake Fishers and that we've seen come through and you know, just.
Speaker 2: Have a lot.
Speaker 4: You know. I always says the word grinders, that they
Speaker 4: just they they're never stopped there, their full go all
Speaker 4: the time. They love the game, they love the commitment,
Speaker 4: they want to be around it, and they just they
Speaker 4: grind as hard as they can everything they do, you know.
Speaker 4: And and that's those great, special young men that want
Speaker 4: to do that on a regular basis and their time
Speaker 4: will come. You know, it's hard to get that opportunity.
Speaker 4: Someone's got to believe in them. And luckily those guys
Speaker 4: did and they were able to prove themselves. So it's
Speaker 4: getting in the door. That's the hard port for these kids.
Speaker 4: You know, that's always you know, it was great great
Speaker 4: kids come out of to some but they don't get
Speaker 4: an opportunity and once they get there, they really shine.
Speaker 2: We so we were a jan I covered the team
Speaker 2: back in the late eighties. Uh, sorry to say that
Speaker 2: long ago. You were there. Uh were you there with Brenda?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, he came after me. I was on eighty nine.
Speaker 4: Eight nine was in my last season. Okay, eighty five
Speaker 4: through eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so he's right after you. What what do
Speaker 2: you hear about what he's gonna do there? We talked
Speaker 2: to Rich told me he's kind of like his dad
Speaker 2: did to me in terms of coaching.
Speaker 4: He's been great. I've been with him a couple of times,
Speaker 4: you know, just you know, I want to get I
Speaker 4: get chills think about coach told me, and really what
Speaker 4: I saw. You know, he's a he's a great guy.
Speaker 4: He's a player's coach, you know, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: I see the energy that that it brought all the
Speaker 4: time for the field, and you know, I hope coach
Speaker 4: Brennan does a great job. You know, I want him
Speaker 4: to stay and we hope he can have the success
Speaker 4: and keep him around for a little bit. But obviously
Speaker 4: expectations a little higher than coach fish Adman. He got here,
Speaker 4: so he's gonna have in trouble, but that's what it is.
Speaker 4: And we've met him a few times. He's just been
Speaker 4: awesome with our program and just excited to see him.
Speaker 3: Well, let's go to that because you mentioned that, you know,
Speaker 3: there weren't a lot of expectations now there are for
Speaker 3: coach Brendan again, getting back to you. You guys, you know
Speaker 3: you've got some expectations as well. How do you how
Speaker 3: do you keep these guys grounded in that and make
Speaker 3: sure that you know they're they're you know, on point
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 4: It's hard, you know, as a coach. You know, one
Speaker 4: of the things I've learned in my career. I've been
Speaker 4: in some very good programs, but it gets harder and
Speaker 4: harder when you have that success, because failure is not
Speaker 4: something you want to have, you know, and you push
Speaker 4: your kids for the limit, and sometimes you're worried they're
Speaker 4: going to fold because the pressure just gets too hard.
Speaker 4: And you know, you watch some of these Olympic athletes,
Speaker 4: how they handle some of this pressure is amazing. And
Speaker 4: that's we're trying to teach young kids how to handle
Speaker 4: the pressure. So, yeah, it's concerning. Our coaching staff has
Speaker 4: worked up. You know, we've got to push and make
Speaker 4: ourselves better to get the kids better, to get to
Speaker 4: that higher level.
Speaker 2: Keep them off social media.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck with that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, stop bringing the press clippings that does exist anymore. Yeah, exactly, No,
Speaker 12: you have to These days are and most days as
Speaker 12: a coach, you have to kind of be part psychologist,
Speaker 12: part mentor part of disciplinarian part and everything to keep
Speaker 12: these guys on a straight and.
Speaker 4: Narrow Yeah, it's it's a full time job. And I
Speaker 4: called my wife the other day and I said, out,
Speaker 4: I can't believe I've been doing this this long because
Speaker 4: it doesn't get any easier, and the kids get harder,
Speaker 4: and you know, everything that goes along with these kids.
Speaker 4: Now it's different than it was thirty years ago. So
Speaker 4: it's a tough gig. It's a good thing. We're really
Speaker 4: paid well, they're keeping these well.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, because I know you. I've known
Speaker 2: you for a long time, like I said, late eighties
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you've done very well. It's no shock,
Speaker 2: right Did you ever have a chance to leave and
Speaker 2: move up and you just didn't remember?
Speaker 4: I was at Pima. I was at Pima for five years,
Speaker 4: so that was my move up. I was had a
Speaker 4: great run at CDO with offt state championship, went to
Speaker 4: the state semifinals, and got the opportunity to turn PEMA over.
Speaker 4: So that was my college gig. And you know, I
Speaker 4: think when when I left the door, I went to college,
Speaker 4: you know, at PEMA College. I said, Okay, now I'll
Speaker 4: have success here and go to the next level. But
Speaker 4: I didn't realize how hard the junior college level was,
Speaker 4: and I felt that was much much better suited for
Speaker 4: the high school level.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, interesting, Yeah, so what do you know? You
Speaker 3: mentioned though that it's it's changing, right, and it changes
Speaker 3: all the time. But you know by that, I mean
Speaker 3: coaching has changed. It's changed dramatically over the last just
Speaker 3: a few years as things have you know, gone haywire
Speaker 3: up at the college level, and a lot of that
Speaker 3: I think has probably trickled down to your level.
Speaker 2: Is that am I? Am? I? Am? I right with that?
Speaker 2: And what do you feel? What do you feel about it?
Speaker 4: So it's a tough situation because part of the problem
Speaker 4: is where we're seeing the college level and the financial
Speaker 4: aspect of it. All these parents want their kids to
Speaker 4: succeed and go get that money. And then the problem
Speaker 4: that I've seen that it's really been very difficult is
Speaker 4: every one of these kids have their private trainers, they
Speaker 4: have their private workout For kids used to rely on
Speaker 4: the high school coach really and you know, we've got
Speaker 4: we got recruiters out there that help these kids and
Speaker 4: these guys pay all this money they get into recruiters
Speaker 4: and their private trainers and their speed coaches. So back
Speaker 4: in the good old days, you know, you were the
Speaker 4: guy and help kids. So it's hard to compete with
Speaker 4: all the competition out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well get how many practices? Is this your first? Second?
Speaker 7: Third?
Speaker 2: Which you know? How many numbers, honey, practices?
Speaker 4: Ever?
Speaker 2: Have how many have practices have you had so far?
Speaker 4: We just finished our seventh practice yesterday, so bright.
Speaker 2: And it comes in two weeks, ten days, twelve days.
Speaker 3: You you plan the twenty third, the thirtieth okay.
Speaker 4: Two A three A program starting the twenty third and
Speaker 4: the four A, five A six afe starting.
Speaker 2: Oh got it? Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a big scrimmage next week against South
Speaker 4: Point and look forward to play the best team in Tucson,
Speaker 4: and you know, see where we compare and then take
Speaker 4: it from there.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I thought you were the best team
Speaker 3: in Tucson.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't get I don't get quite the same
Speaker 4: kids they get.
Speaker 2: That's his motivation to his exactly, he hasn't listening right,
Speaker 2: all right, Pat, thanks a bunch you, Pat.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys. Looking forward to all the Caps
Speaker 4: this year. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Underrated doesn't coach and good sports. That's a good sport.
Speaker 2: And you're right.
Speaker 3: I mean we forgot you know, he was a Peaman.
Speaker 3: He was successful, and.
Speaker 2: I was anymore. But yeah, because even at you yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you know, uh, he's pretty good. You know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, you don't win as much as he does because
Speaker 3: it just you just happen to get good players. You
Speaker 3: happen to you know, there's there's something behind them, you know,
Speaker 3: guys like him, Guys like you know, dust In Peace
Speaker 3: that kept winning, Guys like that, you know, Dennis, you
Speaker 3: know those guys.
Speaker 2: Richard Richard right.
Speaker 3: You know, if he hadn't been on the phone, I
Speaker 3: would have giving you so much crap over over you know,
Speaker 3: over what just mixing up Mexican names. Man, Come on, No,
Speaker 3: I had one of my coaches Richard Lopez. No, no,
Speaker 3: I still think about Richard Olphs. That was Richard Census. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, that's fine.
Speaker 2: He would have made me run laps. It should have
Speaker 2: made you run.
Speaker 3: Laugh, you know, you should just go run them anyway.
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Speaker 1: This is I on the BOOKBA and Jay Gonzalez on
Speaker 1: Fox Sports fourteenth fifthday.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome out tying about here Fox Sports forteen fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Rivera. He's Jay Lopez. You just don't call
Speaker 2: him late for dinner and you're Ryan. Just leave it
Speaker 2: at Ryan. Hey. So that was a good, good, good
Speaker 2: interview with Pat. He's always good, one of the Good.
Speaker 3: Guess eight he is, and he's fun. There's a bunch
Speaker 3: of guys like that. Uh, you know, coach on here
Speaker 3: pretty much every coach you've had on yeah, right, has
Speaker 3: been you know, really good. They've been appreciative of having
Speaker 3: a chance to, you know, to get on the radio
Speaker 3: talk about their programs. And there's some good coaches, some
Speaker 3: good teams here. Uh, and there's some good football that
Speaker 3: gets played here on Friday night.
Speaker 2: So you read you probably don't read the Republic all
Speaker 2: too consistently.
Speaker 3: And you know what I do is I you know,
Speaker 3: I follow the writers, and so if I see the
Speaker 3: writer has written something I'm interested in, I'll I'll read it.
Speaker 3: But I haven't looked at anything in the Republic first.
Speaker 2: For a while. So there's a there's a guy here
Speaker 2: and I don't know him, but you know, when our
Speaker 2: stuff used to go up there in the Republic, we're
Speaker 2: gonna His name is Jeremy cup Kluff and he kind
Speaker 2: of compiles stuff. And his big thing, I guess today
Speaker 2: or for tomorrow is Arizona football. And how how Arizona
Speaker 2: is one of the most overrated football programs this year? Oh,
Speaker 2: okay and now? And it's not his thinking. It's the
Speaker 2: compilation of a lot of magazines, reporters blah blah blah
Speaker 2: saying this. And I'll say Athlon Sports. This is the headline,
Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats's fifth most overrated team in college football entering
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. And there's a big, long explanation. Okay,
Speaker 2: and then Fox Sports Arizona most overrated team by title
Speaker 2: odds for twenty twenty four season. So it's not just
Speaker 2: a few. The Oklahoma Arizona third most overrated team in
Speaker 2: Big twelve entering twenty twenty four. And I'll give you
Speaker 2: one more those Fox Sports Wildcats most overrated team by
Speaker 2: win total for twenty four So there's there's a few
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: So he's going to finding other people who are saying, yeah.
Speaker 2: He's compiling some of the thoughts that from other people. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not just one, it's a few. And if you
Speaker 2: guess what stats are, what they are, because you could
Speaker 2: turn the numbers on however you want to, right, the
Speaker 2: numbers are the numbers. So I'm not saying he's going
Speaker 2: negative because he's just doing just compilot. He's just gonna
Speaker 2: put it fine. So what about the other guys thinking
Speaker 2: that this is true the overrated thing? What do you
Speaker 2: mean the other guys, well, the Athlons and the Oklahoma's
Speaker 2: and the well I mean, look, would you think that?
Speaker 2: Would you think that? Do I think they're overrated? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Your story?
Speaker 3: I actually think a few times they've kind of been underrated.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like everybody where i've you know,
Speaker 3: what I've heard is Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State, Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, Utah are the teams that everybody's talking about
Speaker 3: in the Big Twelve. And it's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how many things I've I've read. I think there's probably
Speaker 3: more that i've more that I've read that don't mention
Speaker 3: Arizona than do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. And we talked about the go Ahead.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I was gonna say, and maybe it's because
Speaker 3: I read those because I want to see, why did
Speaker 3: you not mention Arizona?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Why why is Arizona being overlooked? Because I feel like
Speaker 3: they have been to a degree. Now, I'll you know,
Speaker 3: I say it again, I mean you act, I mean,
Speaker 3: you flat out asked me do I think Arizona's gonna
Speaker 3: win the Big Twelve? And I said, no, I do not,
Speaker 3: But I think they can, but I don't expect them to, Right,
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, but somebody's gotta win it.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I like him where they're at
Speaker 2: right now, whatever win total or whatever, but for the
Speaker 2: for the reasons that you talk. You talk about them
Speaker 2: going into a year after a strong year where they're
Speaker 2: still kind of under the radar.
Speaker 3: Steven three seasons ago they won one game. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: twenty game losing streak.
Speaker 2: I like it because if they were like picked to
Speaker 2: win it, guess what's gonna happen. Guess what would have
Speaker 2: happened if they didn't lose their mind they pooped the pants,
Speaker 2: and then this way you don't know because they're not
Speaker 2: expected to win it.
Speaker 3: I look in in the Big twelve, I don't think
Speaker 3: anybody's overrated or underrated because everybody that's they're talking about
Speaker 3: the Big five, there's like eight teams that get mentioned
Speaker 3: is having a chance.
Speaker 2: And outside of Arizona's one of those. Utah. Outside of Utah,
Speaker 2: I think because they're kind of the favorite, right, right,
Speaker 2: and then the.
Speaker 3: Rest fall into they're sort of a unanimous fav right.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's only I've only seen one or two
Speaker 3: uh columnists whatever predictions that haven't been in Utah. I
Speaker 3: saw somebody picked Kansas State and somebody picked Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: State.
Speaker 2: So if they failed, they're the ones that kind of poo.
Speaker 2: But if Arison have surprised, I like exactly where they're at.
Speaker 2: They're around the turn and a horse race, their third
Speaker 2: or fourth waiting for the front line to falter right.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing.
Speaker 3: They've got an opportunity with those first two, with those
Speaker 3: games with Kansas State and Utah to go, you know,
Speaker 3: set the record and just go, okay, let's let's play
Speaker 3: those two games and see what happens. And if they
Speaker 3: lose both of them, people say, okay, Arizona.
Speaker 2: You know, they are who they are. They are who
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: But but if you do something special, now you say, okay,
Speaker 3: now you got to talk about them, and that's fine.
Speaker 3: That's when people start talking about it.
Speaker 2: Before any think anybody says I'm gonna go negative or
Speaker 2: are not okay, So let's go four and oh, let's
Speaker 2: go they say they go four and oh, right, now
Speaker 2: you have to worry. Now you have to worry because
Speaker 2: historically this is when you work. Arizona can't handle exactly,
Speaker 2: They've never been able to handle it. Right, And not
Speaker 2: that we're being mean, right, it's the truth.
Speaker 3: It's it's history.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: But then but people say, well, this team has nothing
Speaker 3: to do with the twenty fourteen team or the ninety
Speaker 3: eight team or the ninety three team, and usually those
Speaker 3: teams right not to deal with each one of them.
Speaker 3: Had yeah, right, because you know, again you're at Arizona.
Speaker 3: Expectations don't come along very often, and so how do
Speaker 3: you deal with them?
Speaker 2: It's the how you It's a how do you deal
Speaker 2: with them? Season? Right? If if they go four and oh,
Speaker 2: which is quite it could happen, could happen, then you say, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: like last year, likely they'll give you last year. You
Speaker 2: you you did what you did early and I'm saying
Speaker 2: you because you're you're the fan. Uh. And then do
Speaker 2: you lose to You lose to USC and you had them,
Speaker 2: and then you lose to Washington you can own and
Speaker 2: then you start winning, and then what's your first thought?
Speaker 2: When's it gonna.
Speaker 3: Well, that's I kept waiting for it to blow up
Speaker 3: last year and then and then finally they beat the
Speaker 3: hell out of you, and I said, well, that's not
Speaker 3: it's not gonna blow up.
Speaker 2: And then you're but you're not any different than than
Speaker 2: the guys who listened to us because they've gone through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I am. I think I and I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm more like you've seen more games than most,
Speaker 2: You've dealt with more heartaches than most, because you've been
Speaker 2: in all your life. I'm giving you that. And people
Speaker 2: who listen to us maybe have been here for twenty years,
Speaker 2: thirty years or whatever. And you're kind of investing emotionally
Speaker 2: you are, Yeah, And you know I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 2: because I covered the team. But you know, you know,
Speaker 2: like Bill called yesterday, negative, No, we're just telling you
Speaker 2: what you've experienced, what I've seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I yeah, No, You're right, Steve. And and
Speaker 3: again you know we talked about, you know, being emotionally tied. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I am emotionally tied to Arizona football because I I've
Speaker 3: grown up with it and I you know again, I
Speaker 3: started buying season tickets to Arizona football when I was
Speaker 3: a junior in high school.
Speaker 2: And uh and so.
Speaker 3: I mean I even had I kept my season tickets
Speaker 3: while I was a reporter, while I was covering the team.
Speaker 3: I kept my season tickets because you know, my then
Speaker 3: who was going to be my wife if she STI
Speaker 3: wanted to go.
Speaker 2: To the games.
Speaker 3: She would take a friend with. So I've been a
Speaker 3: season ticket older since since my junior year inhigh school,
Speaker 3: WHI would have been nineteen seventy.
Speaker 2: How costs back then?
Speaker 3: I remember back then there were it was like two
Speaker 3: bucks a game or something like that. But you know,
Speaker 3: but again to the point of this entire conversation, I
Speaker 3: I don't think Arizona is overrated because I think I've
Speaker 3: seen a lot of stuff where they're not rated very high,
Speaker 3: that there's four or five teams in front of him
Speaker 3: the league, and I'm kind of like, Okay, I don't
Speaker 3: agree with those I think Arizona's probably one of the
Speaker 3: top three teams in the league.
Speaker 2: But again, you know, in the end, you have to.
Speaker 3: Go out and do it, and you got to prove
Speaker 3: it and if somebody and if you don't, then people
Speaker 3: said I told you so, And I said, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: you did tell me so.
Speaker 2: The one thing that you can guard against although uh
Speaker 2: Brennan hasn't been here, or he hasn't been read coach here,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different factors that kind of help
Speaker 2: you forget about the past. You know that wasn't two thousand.
Speaker 2: I'll forget about No, no, no, no, to help you think
Speaker 2: about it. But it's there. No, No, you shouldn't because
Speaker 2: it's there. And I'm a trend guy. If you're beating
Speaker 2: a trend, what do you think that it's not gonna work? Right,
Speaker 2: because that's what the trend tells you.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, You're right, I mean, and I mean
Speaker 3: for Arizona a ten win season, they haven't. They haven't
Speaker 3: had a trend of ten win season, but the trend
Speaker 3: after ten win season has been did not have the
Speaker 3: next year ever?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Well, they've only had three. That's and that's my point.
Speaker 2: Well on my point, well, you would you would bet
Speaker 2: you would bet against right, you would bet.
Speaker 3: That's and that's kind of where I'm at. You know
Speaker 3: right now, I'm like, I don't know, I'll be very
Speaker 3: disappointed if they don't have a really good season, right eight,
Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna say nine or ten wins, okay, but
Speaker 3: I won't be surprised if they don't. Let's take this, Hi,
Speaker 3: you're on the air and eye on the ball.
Speaker 14: Hey, Jay, Hey, Steve, this is Don. How you guys
Speaker 14: doing good?
Speaker 8: Don?
Speaker 14: Hey. The way I look at this upcoming season is
Speaker 14: that Arizona has a lot of things going for them
Speaker 14: that will mean that they'll have a successful season this year.
Speaker 14: And I don't mean winning the Big Twelve, that would
Speaker 14: be icing on the cake. But you have the core,
Speaker 14: the core group of a lot of guys, not just
Speaker 14: the top five or six guys that stayed together to
Speaker 14: stay here. They could everybody could have left, and they
Speaker 14: all stayed together. And hopefully they're holding each other accountable
Speaker 14: now and in practice to keep things going the.
Speaker 2: Way they were.
Speaker 4: Last year.
Speaker 14: They had they had. When you think back on last season,
Speaker 14: it seemed like they kind of steamrolled through it. You know,
Speaker 14: we were waiting for the Utah game for them to
Speaker 14: blow up. We were waiting for that game, but it
Speaker 14: just seemed like they were just rolling. But they had
Speaker 14: a lot of close games. They had a lot of
Speaker 14: close like Oregon State, the score looks a lot closer
Speaker 14: than what the game really was. That game was in
Speaker 14: hand and Arizona kept them at arm's length, but the
Speaker 14: score was kind of close. And then you look at
Speaker 14: Stanford in Colorado and those were you know, one possession games, right.
Speaker 2: Did you guys both think realistically, now, this is much
Speaker 2: after the fact that they're going to beat Oklahoma. Realistically, Yes,
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 14: I realistic. I realistically thought that they could, and I
Speaker 14: thought if they catch a break early, I thought that
Speaker 14: they would. And the reason for that was the way
Speaker 14: they played all season long after the Mississippi State game,
Speaker 14: those guys played like, Hey, we belong here and we
Speaker 14: can win this game.
Speaker 2: For me, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 14: Well, I was going to say they should have beat
Speaker 14: USC and Washington did to them what they did to
Speaker 14: Oregon State was kept them at that at that touchdown deficit,
Speaker 14: and that's that's why we didn't. We didn't catch it
Speaker 14: catch up.
Speaker 2: In that one.
Speaker 14: But I thought we had to know how the ghanas
Speaker 14: and that to to win that game.
Speaker 3: For me, the Oklahoma game was about the fact it
Speaker 3: was had nothing to do with I didn't think Arizona
Speaker 3: was better than Oklahoma. For me, it was about the
Speaker 3: fact that Arizona wanted to be there and Oklahoma did not.
Speaker 3: And I and I and I I my my take
Speaker 3: on a lot of bowl games is about that.
Speaker 2: And it's true right now, and the quarterback wasn't.
Speaker 3: There right and yeah, well, but even when the matchup
Speaker 3: was made, even before the whole deal with the quarterback,
Speaker 3: I just thought, this is a game that Arizona wants
Speaker 3: to be in.
Speaker 2: It's the game that Oklahoma is not.
Speaker 3: So I thought Arizona should win the game, and then
Speaker 3: they and they ran out on them at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Then also in Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: Realized we're gonna lose to a team that we shouldn't
Speaker 3: lose to. They started playing better and then Arizona came
Speaker 3: back and won the game. So it was more about
Speaker 3: that than about did I think Arizona was a better
Speaker 3: team than Oklahoma went into that game, because I don't
Speaker 3: think I did.
Speaker 14: Okay, thank you not to use the M word, but
Speaker 14: I thought Arizona was trending going into the Oklahoma's game.
Speaker 3: But see but see don being an Arizona fan, anytime
Speaker 3: they get momentum like that, you can't. You're just waiting
Speaker 3: for it to stop.
Speaker 2: You just are. That's why the.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm using it because I come on, I want
Speaker 3: Steve to cringe.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what that word means.
Speaker 14: You know what it means. You know what it means, Steve.
Speaker 14: It means trending. You know you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's a better word, but it means a run or
Speaker 2: trending I'm gonna use that word. Thank you, all right, Don,
Speaker 2: thanks so much. So to go back to the things
Speaker 2: I told you about Daisy Central thing, uh so Rhese
Speaker 2: Davis says, I guess who will play in the his
Speaker 2: guests in the PAC twelve final in the Big from
Speaker 2: the Big got Arizona And you might want to put
Speaker 2: that up there. Yeah, okay, you're worth three three now.
Speaker 2: He's got Arizona in the Big FO champions Utah, there
Speaker 2: will be a PAC twelve reunion Arizona. Wow. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was reading it a little bit more for that. That'd
Speaker 2: be kind of cool. And people in the Big twelve
Speaker 2: will be big. What the hell? Who invited them?
Speaker 4: Why know?
Speaker 3: Wh why did we exactly? That would be fun. I
Speaker 3: think it's a mixed Steve. I mean, I I see,
Speaker 3: I see what this guy, uh what's the name ulf
Speaker 3: Jeremy Cluff was doing. But it's just a compilation, right,
Speaker 3: he compiled stuff. But you can go out and find out.
Speaker 3: He can go out and say, find a bunch of
Speaker 3: people where they're not rated very well at all.
Speaker 2: I mean they got picked finished fifth by the media.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, that says more than anything, right that
Speaker 3: in the end people think Arizona's still still got a
Speaker 3: ways to go, and maybe they do, well, maybe they don't.
Speaker 2: We also remember we asked to select the uh the
Speaker 2: Michael Levs and a couple of other people who didn't
Speaker 2: vote right, who didn't vote, and had they realistically voted,
Speaker 2: would have probably had Arizona higher a little high. So
Speaker 2: so they didn't get that vote.
Speaker 3: We'll see, and I think a lot of that vote
Speaker 3: is a lot of the vote in the in the opinions.
Speaker 3: Are are our big twelve people, Yeah, who really aren't
Speaker 3: familiar with Arizona except the fact that Arizona has just
Speaker 3: been in the middle of the rotae exactly.
Speaker 2: It's a little biased that we think, but not in
Speaker 2: a bad way.
Speaker 3: It is it's just they don't know because they don't know,
Speaker 3: and I think that's what it's more about. All Right,
Speaker 3: let's go ahead and take our last break of the hour.
Speaker 2: We're going to come back.
Speaker 3: Uh, Ryan is gonna he's gonna have have some breaking news.
Speaker 3: I know what to say, Ryan, I just know this
Speaker 3: is this is j Lopez and Steve Rivers. Uh, well,
Speaker 3: we'll be right back after the break.