1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,519 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,760 the podcast for All Sports Discussion dot com. This is 3 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:25,960 Jeff and you can follow me on Twitter or X 4 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,399 at talkin' a c C Sports. That's at T A 5 00:00:30,679 --> 00:00:33,799 L K I N A c C S P O 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,079 r T S. Your podcast moderator is Matthew and you 7 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:42,280 can follow him on Twitter or X at All Sports 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,000 d A c C. That's at A L L S 9 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:49,880 P O r T S D A c C. I'm 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,039 gonna turn it over to Matthew now as we get 11 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:53,119 the podcast started. 12 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:56,159 Speaker 2: Oh man, how you doing, Jeff? 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Good good? 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: I have a question for you. I have a cold, okay, 15 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:10,200 but I haven't. Usually when I get sick, I get 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,319 full board bronchitus, or at the worst case scenario, I 17 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:19,480 get COVID. Right, I usually never get colds. When you 18 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,400 were sick, when you were sick, like a couple a 19 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,280 week or two ago or whatever it was, did you 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,680 have a cold or what did you have? 21 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: I would say I had a garden variety cold. I 22 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:36,159 had a like a tickle in my throat for like 23 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:40,920 a day, and it made my throat itchy for like 24 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,879 a few days after that, where I kind of coughed 25 00:01:43,879 --> 00:01:48,680 a little bit, but never no aches, no pains, no 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,000 no sinus stuffiness, no head pressure, nothing, nothing like that. 27 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,640 I was felt like an old timey little twenty four 28 00:01:58,680 --> 00:01:59,560 hour cold. 29 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because I have a cold and i have 30 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:05,239 congestion and stuff like that, and I'm not even sure 31 00:02:05,239 --> 00:02:10,080 I've had this since twenty eighteen? Do you know what 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,360 I mean? Sort of thing. I mean, it's kind of crazy. 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,479 I mean, I suppose people get sick when they start 34 00:02:14,479 --> 00:02:17,719 going back, you know, into the office and getting exposed 35 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:19,879 to the elements and stuff like that, right, you know, 36 00:02:20,039 --> 00:02:22,680 So I think that's probably I think that's what I have. 37 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,800 I don't have because I'm not coughing, I'm not doing 38 00:02:24,879 --> 00:02:28,199 anything like that. Probably means I'm not getting enough sleep. 39 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,800 So that's what's happening with me because I'm not I'm 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,199 feeling like I mean, I think my voice sounds fine here, right, 41 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,120 you know, I does it like when I was on 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,199 here once before when I had COVID, and I think 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,199 I it sounded like I was tripping along in pain, right, 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,680 But I was a tripper. But I'm feeling a lot 45 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:47,840 I'm feeling. That's kind of how I'm feeling right now. 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,560 So that's I'm hoping. I'm hopeful that I if I 47 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:54,240 get like twelve hours sleep, then I'll knock it out. 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,800 But that's kind of where I'm at, man, So let's 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,000 get right to it, man. I mean, we've got the 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,360 FCS semi Finals coming next week. Jeff. You were one 51 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:08,560 hundred percent correct going with all your picks last week. 52 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,960 You didn't take a whole lot of risks, right, A 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,919 whole lot of chalk there, right. But I mean this week, 54 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,080 and I would say this, I'm actually very serious about this. 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,319 I thought about this like deeply this afternoon, Jeff. This 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,520 may be the best final four in the FCS that 57 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:34,439 I've ever seen ever. And that's a pretty strong statement, right. 58 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,319 You know, this upcoming week, number three South Dakota State 59 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:45,319 visits number two, and you that is a situation where 60 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:51,000 eleven of the last twelve national championships have come from 61 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:57,680 those two teams from the FCS. Number four, South Dakota 62 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,039 visits number one Montana State. And I think that these 63 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:05,080 are these are much harder picks, Jeff, because you know, 64 00:04:05,159 --> 00:04:08,199 I I think, I legit think any four of these 65 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,240 ting teams can state a clay can state a case 66 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,759 to win the national title. You know this is you 67 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:17,160 know the Jack. The Jacks are gonna want a piece 68 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,160 of NDSU because DYSU beat him in the first game 69 00:04:20,199 --> 00:04:23,480 this year in Fargo, Dom thirteen to nine. The second 70 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,120 one might or might not be easier to pick. But 71 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,279 the Coyotes have a legit, legit defense at South Dakota 72 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:32,120 For people who don't know this, Coyotes that gonna challenge 73 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,240 the Bob got Bobcats right, that the number one seed, 74 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,399 number one team all year, Montana State Bobcats, who also, 75 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:44,000 by the way, has a head coach who was the 76 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:50,160 offensive coordinator during all of the NDIAS Bison championship runs, right, 77 00:04:50,439 --> 00:04:53,360 Brent Megan, So, like I was saying, when you got 78 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,639 a two verses three and one versus four, and I 79 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,519 think it's even I mean, it's even really more the 80 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,279 case this year you have four teams who can legitimately 81 00:05:02,439 --> 00:05:06,199 state their case to win the national title. So Jeff, 82 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,720 prior to the season, now, shout out to you, shout 83 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,040 out to both of us. I picked South Dakota State. 84 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:14,959 I picked South Dakota State to win the national title. 85 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 You know I I I felt like they had everybody back, 86 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:22,000 you picked NDSU to win the national title. Both of 87 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,519 those teams are going at each other, and of course, 88 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:26,560 then like I said, South Dakota State goes on the 89 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:28,879 road to play at Montana State. I want I want 90 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,279 you to give me the winners of those two games, Jeff, 91 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:34,720 and then I want you to I want you to 92 00:05:34,759 --> 00:05:37,000 tell me who's gonna win the national title because this 93 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:40,519 is a honestly, it's it's hard. So I'm I'm ready 94 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:42,279 for I'm ready to hear what you gotta say, Jeff. 95 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're definitely the uh the expert here, Matthew. So 96 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:57,160 I'm just gonna stay with with with how I last started, 97 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:03,160 and I'm gonna still say NDSU advances. I think they're 98 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,720 gonna win it all no other reason than just their 99 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,720 reputation and they've been in this game, they know how 100 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,560 to win in the playoffs. Gonna keep going with them. 101 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:17,920 And then I'm gonna say that NDSU is gonna play 102 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:22,879 Montana State, and like I said, NDSU win it at all. 103 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:24,399 I'm not gonna change my pick now. 104 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I think that South Dakota State is gonna beat NDISU. 105 00:06:30,639 --> 00:06:34,199 I'll take that now. I haven't waivered on that. I 106 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:36,720 think Montana State is gonna be South Dakota, and I 107 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,000 think Montana State is gonna win the national title. I 108 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,759 think Brent Megan will get his first national titles. So 109 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,079 I am going to backtrack on one of these games 110 00:06:45,079 --> 00:06:47,600 here because I think Brent Meagan is going to bring 111 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:52,160 one back home. And then Jeff, you can correct me 112 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:55,439 if I'm wrong. You're the expansion guy, right, You're more 113 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,399 so than me. I think all four of these teams 114 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:03,480 could stay claim probably to go together if they wanted 115 00:07:03,519 --> 00:07:05,199 to go to the Mountain West. What do you think 116 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,600 about that? 117 00:07:09,079 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think anything's wide open, uh out there in 118 00:07:13,079 --> 00:07:17,759 the Mountain West, the PAC twelve, everything that they're doing 119 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,680 out there, and I think that would actually be a 120 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,360 good idea for them to go it as a block 121 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,040 because they, you know, up there in those regions, they're 122 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:38,160 recognizable names. I mean, everybody knows n DSU in recent years, 123 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,800 South Dakota. I mean you're you're aware of those programs 124 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:47,959 Montana State and you know when they're on TV, you 125 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,639 know people people, Yeah, they get eyeballs. The people know 126 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,680 them as big winners, you know, at the level they're at. 127 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,560 And if they go out West and I don't expect 128 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,040 the quality of their football to drop off, maybe the 129 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:08,079 win totals, but uh, I think that that would be 130 00:08:08,319 --> 00:08:10,639 a smart thing for them to do, to go to 131 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,439 go as a block. I think there's more negotiating power 132 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,879 and there's a you know, an opportunity too, you know, 133 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,680 work the kind of deal that would enable them to 134 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,600 go ahead and move up. You know, if they go 135 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,519 as a block, if they go with as a single entity, 136 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:31,759 I think it becomes a lot more difficult. 137 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: And you know who I think they'd take with them, Jeff, 138 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,399 Montana and North Dakota. You'd have six go at the 139 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:45,159 same time. And I think and you're absolutely right. You know, 140 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,600 if you go as a as a group of schools, 141 00:08:47,639 --> 00:08:50,320 you then have travel partners, you have all that sort 142 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,200 of thing which is important if you're when you're up there, man, 143 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,519 which is kind of really important when you're up there. 144 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,320 So let's go on, Let's go on to a CC 145 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,240 football you're ready, Jeff, I guess, all right, buddy, which 146 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,720 a c C Bowl game are you looking forward to 147 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,200 most this year? Let me just give you buying first, 148 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,720 if you don't mind, I'll I'll give you buying because 149 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,399 I'm probably gonna see the answer that a lot of 150 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,919 people are going to say, and that's just like last year, 151 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,120 like the Pop Tarts Bull in Orlando, Florida. I think 152 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,039 that's just gonna be a terrific game between Miami and 153 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,720 Iowa State. Last year it was NC State and Kansas State, 154 00:09:27,159 --> 00:09:30,279 and I think the Pop Tarts Bull is just really 155 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,559 going to be a terrific game. So that's that's the 156 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,720 one I'm looking forward to the most, because there are 157 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,720 two these are pretty much the If I'm not mistaken, 158 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:41,679 Jeff made these. I haven't you know, I haven't gone 159 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,519 through and done a bull pick yet, but this may 160 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,480 be the highest set of ranking teams meeting in probably 161 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:50,600 non playoff ball or is that not the case? 162 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,639 Speaker 1: I think so between the two that are that are 163 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:57,960 in the. 164 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: Game, that's what I was saying. I mean, you got 165 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,879 two ranked teams in there, and that's that's just gonna 166 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:06,039 be a terrific game. Now, I would say, now all 167 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:11,759 full disclosure, right, I have not kept track of who 168 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,559 has opted out for either team for that Bowl game, Jeff, Right, 169 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,799 you know, like whether, for example, Miami's quarterback has opted out. 170 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,320 I have not kept track of any of that but 171 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:28,000 you know, if you you know, if nobody has opted 172 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:30,919 out yet and all these guys are coming back to 173 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,080 get some playing time here, this becomes a prime matchup 174 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,120 that I one hundred excuse me that I one will 175 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,320 will be watching the. 176 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:48,399 Speaker 1: Four I'm going to go here with a little personal bias. 177 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,559 And of the non playoff balls, I'm I'm really looking 178 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,679 forward to Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt. This this has the 179 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:01,399 probably the most underrated QB match up of all the 180 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,480 non playoff Bowls with Diego Pavia Vanderbilt and Haines King 181 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,440 at Georgia Tech. And and I think there's there's a 182 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 good bit of excitement from the Georgia Tech side of 183 00:11:12,039 --> 00:11:19,960 things because Haines King will be returning for next year 184 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,600 and he's going to be available in the bowl game 185 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,799 and we're going to get a preview. Now I think 186 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,120 of Georgia Tech, who now many people think, you know, 187 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,919 are going to be one of those contenders to get 188 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:35,279 to Charlotte next year. And this is not your previous 189 00:11:35,399 --> 00:11:38,480 Vanderbilt teams. We know what they did, you know, knocking 190 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:43,320 off Vanderbilt early. They played Texas to a two point game. 191 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:45,679 I mean this, this is you know they went six 192 00:11:45,759 --> 00:11:49,759 and six, but this is a pretty legitimate football team. 193 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,360 And I've seen on like ESPN when they were doing 194 00:11:53,399 --> 00:11:56,679 their prow their bowl previews, they were saying, you know, 195 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:05,279 Georgia Tech had his you know, as a big a 196 00:12:05,399 --> 00:12:08,960 seven and five season as you could have, and they 197 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,039 said Vanderbilt was had as big as a six and 198 00:12:12,159 --> 00:12:15,559 sixth season as you could have. So you've got a 199 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:22,360 really tremendous quarterback matchup. You've got two fan bases that 200 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:26,720 are really excited about, you know, where these programs could 201 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:29,960 be in the in the future. So that one I'm 202 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,279 I'm really looking forward to. 203 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Very good, sir, very good. Let's go on here, man. 204 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,200 I mean, and now this next question, I want to 205 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,840 make sure I scope this right, Jeff. We're not talking 206 00:12:40,879 --> 00:12:44,639 about any playoff teams. We're just talking about those that 207 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,039 are in the regular bowls. So that's where the scope 208 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,320 of this next question is going. Which ACC team will 209 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:56,559 win their bowl unexpectedly? Now, again, we're not talking about 210 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,480 We're not talking about playoffs. You know, those that are 211 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,879 in the playoffs and do better than most expect. And 212 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,039 let's go to the opposite side of the coin here, 213 00:13:04,039 --> 00:13:07,120 who's gonna Choke as the favorite. If we look at 214 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,879 these Bulls at these bowl games between non playoff teams. 215 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a really dangerous game, uh out there 216 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:22,919 for Cal playing U n l V. I mean, they're 217 00:13:22,919 --> 00:13:25,919 not a big favorite, just just a one point favorite 218 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,200 in that game. But I think that U n l 219 00:13:30,279 --> 00:13:35,000 V is a solid football team. Cal. Uh the quarterback 220 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:38,039 Mendoza has put his name into the portal. I'm not 221 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:40,200 sure if he's gonna play. I don't expect him to 222 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,600 for Cal, but I think that that's a very dangerous 223 00:13:44,639 --> 00:13:47,080 game for Cal in that one. 224 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 225 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Then if you're looking at you know, teams I I 226 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:54,960 expect more from Uh. I gotta look here at the 227 00:13:55,039 --> 00:14:02,399 spread between Syracuse and Washington State. I'm not sure who's 228 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:04,679 the favorite in that game, but I tell you, I 229 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,759 think if I'm looking for a team that is really 230 00:14:08,799 --> 00:14:12,639 gonna come out big in that game, I think Syracuse 231 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,960 that is an you know out there in the Holiday Bowl. 232 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,759 They've had a great season under the first year of 233 00:14:19,799 --> 00:14:23,799 Fran Brown. They they're ranked, you know, in the top 234 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,600 twenty five, and you know, he is just kind of 235 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:33,159 had a resurgence there of Syracuse football. Their best season 236 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,639 in a number of years since Dino Babers went ten 237 00:14:35,679 --> 00:14:40,840 and three a few years back. And you know, I 238 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,519 wouldn't all be surprised if they win that game by 239 00:14:44,559 --> 00:14:49,639 a couple of touchdowns, because offensively, they are very difficult 240 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:53,320 to deal with. I mean, they knocked out a high 241 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:55,559 you know, they played Miami in that game in the 242 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,519 Carrier or the JMA Dome, and you know, everything was 243 00:14:59,559 --> 00:15:02,840 on the line for the Hurricanes, and you know that 244 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:06,919 offense and we know Miami's defense struggled, you know, but Syracuse, 245 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,679 you know, just had the emotion, the intensity of that 246 00:15:11,759 --> 00:15:16,360 game never let even when they fell behind early twenty 247 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:19,679 one zero. I really look for Syracuse to play well 248 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:20,919 against Washington State. 249 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: They will right now. Now, let me run through this. 250 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:26,320 I'm just gonna run through this for you because I 251 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:30,200 was on Vegas Insider Jeff, so I want to tell 252 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,320 you what's going on here. The consensus spread right now 253 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:38,080 for Syracuse in Washington State is eight and a half 254 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,320 points for Syracuse. I mean, they are you know, the 255 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,240 you know, they are fairly confident. The books are fairly 256 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,519 confident that Syracuse is going to win that game. And 257 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,799 so what you're saying is, you know, is correct that 258 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,919 they're probably going to be impressive. What they're saying. The 259 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:00,559 consensus spread about Yukon and North Carolina is that North 260 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,440 Carolina is favored by two. But you know what, you 261 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,840 know what, you know, you know what, you know what, Jeff, 262 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,440 My sense there is that you've got a head coach 263 00:16:11,639 --> 00:16:13,919 that I mean, I can't remember. Is mac Brown going 264 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,759 to coach in that game? Do we know? He probably is? Right? 265 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 266 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: I think see this is what I'm I'm thinking here, 267 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:27,440 like you have this now, whether he coached not or not, 268 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:31,039 you know from the aar armchair or not, it's probably 269 00:16:31,039 --> 00:16:33,120 what he did. He's mc brown has always been a 270 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,639 CEO coach. But with him not there is that going 271 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,480 to be an issue for North Carolina? Right? Are they? 272 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:42,960 You know they're missing their grandfather, right, you know? Is 273 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,080 that one where unc could could you know, pretend you 274 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,879 know they've never been said, there've never been anybody who's 275 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:53,600 cared about defense, right, you know, in the entire background era. 276 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:57,519 And this is a big opportunity opportunity And we feel 277 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:00,320 weird saying this, but it's a big opportunity for the 278 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,759 youth for Yukon on the big stage to get away, 279 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:08,079 and I think that there's a I think there's a 280 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,920 chance that North Carolina could slip up there. Is that 281 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:12,839 a fair statement? 282 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it all depends on a level 283 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:24,359 of motivation. You know, haven't heard if Amarion Hampton. He 284 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,000 said he's he's not returning, but I don't know if 285 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,359 he's going to play in that game or he won't. 286 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:35,160 You know. Defensively, Uh, North Carolina has been all over 287 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,480 the place this year, but Yukon's played a couple of 288 00:17:38,519 --> 00:17:45,319 ACC teams this year, and you know they I think 289 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,519 they lost both of the games if I'm remembering right, 290 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:51,119 I think they played uh, Syracuse and Duke and lost 291 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,880 those games. So so North Carolina has more talent than them, 292 00:17:55,279 --> 00:17:56,960 but it's going to be a matter of motivation. And 293 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,079 with Bill Belichick coming in, I mean, if I'm looking 294 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:01,759 at it like I'm one of the North Carolina players, 295 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,559 you know he's going to be watching that game and 296 00:18:04,599 --> 00:18:09,720 looking at it from a player and talent evaluation, I 297 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,359 would I would try to show out if I were 298 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,680 the North Carolina players because Bill Belichick might have that 299 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:22,799 you know, Deon Sanders turnover the roster type management style, 300 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,359 so if I'm a North Carolina player, I'm trying to 301 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:29,000 impress fair enough. 302 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:32,759 Speaker 2: Now, So here's the other here's my other candidate, and 303 00:18:32,799 --> 00:18:36,920 probably even more likely. NC State is favored by five 304 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,640 over East Carolina. I like East Carolina's coach better, Jeff. 305 00:18:44,599 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't like this game at all 306 00:18:46,279 --> 00:18:50,319 for North Carolina State. I think it's a really dangerous game. 307 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:57,400 East Carolina lives to beat ACC teams in particularly Tobacco 308 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:02,240 road teams, and you know it, but these Bowl games 309 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:06,400 are typically a matter of motivation and who wants it more. 310 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:10,759 And you know, East Carolina's gonna treat that game like 311 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:15,680 their Super Bowl. And I'm I'm I'm very concerned for 312 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:17,960 NC State in that game. If they're not ready to 313 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,160 go one hundred percent, they they could very easily lose 314 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:22,720 that game. 315 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm with you one thousand percent, Jeff, I'm with you 316 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:40,000 one thousand percent. So let's go on the opposite side 317 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:42,480 of the coin here. No, we actually we did kind 318 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:44,759 of go over the office that side of the coin. 319 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:48,160 Who could choked? We did talk about that. Uh, I 320 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,000 am going to run through the ACC Bowl matchups here, 321 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:52,680 so get you know, give me, just give me, just 322 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,839 a second, Jeff, do I want you to I want 323 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,559 you to do some picking for me. If you're ready. 324 00:19:57,599 --> 00:19:59,599 If you're ready for that, you're ready for the ready 325 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,160 for some We're gonna do the playoffs in a little bit, 326 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,400 but you know we're coming up later on that, so 327 00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:09,079 we'll later. Let's this is kind of a lightning round here. 328 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,599 We got the game above Sports Bowl. This is, in fact, 329 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,519 this is another one I should have checked. Uh, Pitt 330 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,000 is taken on Toledo. Both teams are seven and five 331 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,240 in Detroit, Michigan. This is on the This is really 332 00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:28,279 the uh the first, No, this is the second. I'm sorry, 333 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,440 this is the second ACC Bowl game that's non playoff. 334 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:47,559 Speaker 1: All right, we're starting with that one. I think I 335 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:50,400 think Pitt, even though they lost their last five games 336 00:20:50,839 --> 00:20:55,640 of the year. You know, Pat Nardoozy is a hard nose, 337 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,920 tough coach, and I definitely don't think he wants to 338 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,519 finish the season on a six game losing streak, and 339 00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:05,559 I think he's gonna instill that in his team to 340 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,880 come out and take care of business in that one. 341 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,839 Speaker 2: I like Pitt ha really. 342 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think they're just they're just gonna be 343 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,759 too physical for Toledo, I think hah. 344 00:21:20,079 --> 00:21:22,799 Speaker 2: Or the flip side right that could they could they 345 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:28,359 could perhaps be dropping off continue there they're driving off 346 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,160 the cliff. 347 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, this is like a matter of motivation, and uh, 348 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,720 you know, it's certainly a losable game, you know if 349 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,559 they go in there and treat it like you know, 350 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,519 going through the motions. But I kind of feel like 351 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,119 Nardoozy is not gonna let that happen. 352 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,519 Speaker 2: It has that feel like that to me, only because 353 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:57,559 I feel like Toledo will have more fans there than Picks, 354 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,880 do you know what I mean? I mean, I just 355 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,880 I have I worry about Pitt, Like if they don't 356 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,640 if they don't get going in that first quarter, jet 357 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,599 for that second quarter, I mean, if they come out 358 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,000 slow out of the gates, they're going to lose that game. 359 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:15,000 They have to. They have to have a very fast 360 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,880 start against the Leado otherwise they're going to lose that game. 361 00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:21,960 I don't think, right, because they're not a team that 362 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:28,759 really has fast starts in the second half. Would you say, yeah? 363 00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know this has been the Taale, the 364 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:33,839 Jacqueline Hyde Pitt Panthers. I mean they started out the 365 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,279 year seven and zero had two p four wins, beating 366 00:22:37,279 --> 00:22:40,599 West Virginia and Cincinnati, and then they went down to 367 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,799 SMU and he just you know, it was a complete 368 00:22:43,799 --> 00:22:50,000 collapse since that game. But that's where I think, I 369 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,319 think Nordoozi Is is gonna you know, get them motivated 370 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,440 because and just have them ready. You don't want to 371 00:22:58,519 --> 00:23:01,440 end the season on a six game lose streak. And so, 372 00:23:01,599 --> 00:23:04,319 like I agree with you, it all depends on the start, 373 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,240 and I feel like Pitt is going to start well 374 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:10,000 in this game and then you know that would get 375 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,759 the competitive juices going, try to salvage something out of 376 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:18,480 the season about letting it fall off the cliff. Now 377 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,599 if this was I just think they're going to be 378 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,599 too physical for Toledo at the end of the day. 379 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,319 Speaker 2: Fough. Okay, let's go to the next ball game. Birmingham Ball. 380 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:35,279 Georgia Tech seven and five versus Vanderbilt. Brent Key as I, 381 00:23:35,519 --> 00:23:38,000 as I predicted, got some Coach of the Year votes. 382 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,200 I said before, if he goes seven and five, he's 383 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,519 going to get a few of those votes. He did. 384 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,519 So this is going to be a you know, a 385 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:49,119 pretty good game. I mean, Georgia Tech is a really 386 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,279 physical team. Vanderbilt has certainly at least reshaped their team 387 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,160 from what it was last year. Beating Alabama, I think 388 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960 it was a big victory for Vanderbilt. I mean, it's 389 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,880 certainly not a Nick Saban team, but it's still a 390 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,000 you know, a big victory versying versus the name brand. 391 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:07,480 Georgia Tech had a couple of those big victories this year. 392 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,119 I'm interested in what your pick is here. 393 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: When when Eric Singleton decided to transfer, was Georgia Tech's 394 00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:23,319 number one receiver. I had a concern that that maybe 395 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,400 there could be others to follow at Georgia Tech, which 396 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,000 would have left me favoring Vadnderbilt in this game. But 397 00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:34,680 with Haines King coming back, the backup Filo coming back, 398 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:40,079 who was young freshman quarterback who had some big moments, uh, 399 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:46,799 the linebacker, their leading linebacker effort returning, A number of 400 00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,880 players came out and said they're not transferring uh over 401 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,400 the weekend, and that that kind of shows you know, 402 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:58,599 you know, every team out there is going to lose 403 00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:01,920 contributors on their team, and you Singleton is just a 404 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,160 single guy. But by and large, this team looks ready, 405 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,880 you know, to go out there and set the stage 406 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,599 for a big season in twenty twenty five. And I 407 00:25:13,599 --> 00:25:16,440 think Brent Key after that Georgia loss, I mean that 408 00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:20,319 sounded like one guy who's got that competitive fire just 409 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,559 burning a hole through him. I mean, Vanderbilt is gonna 410 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:26,279 be ready to I expect a highly competitive game. This 411 00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,880 will not be a game of who's not motivated or not. 412 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,240 I think you're going to have two really motivated teams 413 00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:38,759 who will really want to win this game. But I 414 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,640 think I think Georgia Tech probably has a little bit 415 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,119 better top to bottom talent. And you give those coordinators 416 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,839 Buster Faulkner, Tyler Santucci a month to prefer for a game, 417 00:25:51,559 --> 00:25:53,759 and I think I think Georgia Tay will be ready. 418 00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:55,000 I think Georgia Tech wins out. 419 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: Very good, very good. Okay, let's go on and take 420 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,400 a look at the next one. Here we got the 421 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:06,960 with Sabby Fenway Bull North Carolina taking on Yukon. This 422 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,079 is in Boston, Massachusetts, so it's pretty close. This is, 423 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,279 you know, gonna be much closer for the Yukon fan 424 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,480 base than it is for North Carolina's fan base. 425 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tricky one because you're gonna have 426 00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:23,000 that mixture of North Carolina players probably going through the 427 00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:26,200 motions and the ones who are trying to impress Belichick, 428 00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:29,119 you know, outgoing staff and all that sort of thing. 429 00:26:31,319 --> 00:26:37,319 This is a very losable game for North Carolina. I'm 430 00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:41,480 gonna say that. I'm gonna say their overall talent level 431 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:43,720 will be just enough to get them through this game. 432 00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:47,440 In a close game with Yukon, but like we kind 433 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,160 of alluded to, an upset wouldn't shock me. I think 434 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,799 North Carolina wins that game though outstandings. 435 00:26:52,839 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: Then and then we got the we got the bad Boy, 436 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,480 uh Mower's pinstripe Bull and Bronx. Do you arc is 437 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:02,680 Boston College taking on Tobron. 438 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is another one I think is going to 439 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,920 be similar to to Vanderbilt and Georgia Tech. I think 440 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,480 you will have two motivated teams in this game. This 441 00:27:13,519 --> 00:27:17,039 is a pretty good match up here. Uh Riola kid 442 00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:20,519 there at Nebraska and Nebraska's kind of showed some signs 443 00:27:20,519 --> 00:27:24,240 of life this year in the Big Ten. BC still 444 00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:28,680 kind of kept things going ether after Constellanos was demoted 445 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,759 and then it transfers to Florida State. Yeah, this is 446 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,759 a pretty even matchup here, But I'm gonna I'm gonna 447 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:38,880 lean with Nebraska. 448 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but still you're you're, you're, you're, you're staying 449 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,160 with the acc in a lot of these games. So 450 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,759 it's you got some high, high level of confidence. And 451 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,400 like I said, here's the next one. Here's the one 452 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,799 I thought that would really be a fun game to watch, 453 00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:57,000 and that's Miami versus Ohio State in the Pop Tarts 454 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,960 Bowl in Orlando, Florida, Florida. 455 00:28:01,839 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: Is Kim has Kim Ward had declared his intentions for 456 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,119 that game. 457 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what 458 00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:13,640 I'm not. I'm not sure about any player, not just him, 459 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,440 but any players for either team move opted in or 460 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,160 out Jeff. 461 00:28:19,759 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm even looking here and even the Miami 462 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200 blogs or you know what, I'm gonna make it simple. 463 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,359 If cam Ward plays, I think they're gonna beat Iowa State. 464 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,240 And if he doesn't play, uh, I don't think they'll win. 465 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: He's confirmed, he's confirmed that he will participate in the 466 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:37,920 ball game. 467 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Then then I like Miami in this game, especially even 468 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,119 though they had like issues defensively and we know about that, 469 00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:50,400 you know, on the offensive side of the ball, they 470 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,720 were as good as any team in the country this year, 471 00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,799 and you know, playing down there in Florida, they'll have 472 00:28:56,839 --> 00:28:59,000 a lot of they should have a lot of fans. 473 00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:02,920 I don't think it'll be a motivational thing with Iowa 474 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400 State because they both kind of suffered the fame fate. 475 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,720 They had their destiny in their own hands to get 476 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,799 to the playoffs. Iowa State did too, and and they 477 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,039 kind of, you know, lost, lost a couple of games late, 478 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,319 just like Miami did. But this is a really good matchup. 479 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,160 This should be a lot of fun. But I think 480 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,480 Miami is coming out of this one. 481 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: My only concern here is that Iowa State has is 482 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:37,160 a has a better in game head coach than Miami does. Yeah, 483 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,680 I mean I think and honestly, Jeff, I don't think 484 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,200 it's close. So you know, you're depending. I think Miami 485 00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:49,160 is just dependent on having its heisman. QB kind of 486 00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,559 saved the day, if that mad, if that makes sense, 487 00:29:51,599 --> 00:29:53,559 you know what I mean, like and which he has 488 00:29:53,839 --> 00:29:57,799 several times this year, right, I mean, let's be let's 489 00:29:57,799 --> 00:29:59,920 be fair about that, right the cam Ward his say, 490 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,839 this team from you know being a you know, you 491 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880 and I talked about this being a seven one team 492 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,680 from maybe a six six seven one team from from 493 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,759 being you know, a much higher way than you know, 494 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,240 being the ten win team they are now, right, So 495 00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:16,680 I don't discount that that could happen. That's a big, 496 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720 big primetime game for sure on on ESPN. That'd be 497 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,559 a fun one. All right. So we got the Bowl 498 00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:28,079 go Bowling Military Bowl. We've got NC State versus East Carolina. 499 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were, we were talking about this game, and 500 00:30:35,839 --> 00:30:38,960 this game scares me really for North Carolina State, it 501 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:47,559 really does. Gosh, I'm I'm I'm really tempted to pull 502 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,759 the upset and say East Carolina is gonna knock off 503 00:30:50,799 --> 00:30:54,880 the wolf wolf Pack. But I love the freshman quarterback 504 00:30:56,039 --> 00:30:59,480 they're at NC State. When he's good, they can be 505 00:30:59,599 --> 00:31:03,279 they can be really good. But this is an extremely 506 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160 dangerous game for NC State, And just like you talked 507 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,920 about Pitt in Toledo, if East Carolina goes up early, 508 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,079 I think the Wolfpack are gonna be in really big trouble. 509 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:17,839 I just can't, I don't. I can't pull the trigger 510 00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:21,480 there on East Carolina just yet. So I think I'm 511 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960 gonna take NC State. But man, that's a dangerous dangerous 512 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,759 game for the field. 513 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: It feels like that's not gonna be a game where 514 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,880 there's a whole lot of points scored. Jeff. Yeah, yeah, 515 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,839 like like it's gonna be an ugly game and whoever 516 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,319 wins will be like twenty one to seventeen or twenty 517 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,680 to sixteen or something like that, you know what I mean, 518 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,759 something like that. Like I I just I have and 519 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400 I I honestly could flip a coin on that game 520 00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:54,279 right now, because I know they they've East Carolina I 521 00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:57,720 think has a chance to They're they're they're they're gonna 522 00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:00,359 have a lot of fans up there, and they you know, 523 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,559 you and I have talked about this before. They always 524 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,039 get up when they play those triangle teams, right, they 525 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:11,319 always you know, and so you know, I you know, 526 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,960 it's kind of a dream matchup for ESPN. So it's 527 00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,519 kind of perfect for them, all right. So the Sunball 528 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,680 Louisville versus Washington, and this is certainly a different Washington 529 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,400 team than the one that was there last year. 530 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:31,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. If there's a concern for Louisville, it's that, 531 00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,119 you know, quarterback Tyler Schoff is not going to be 532 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480 in this one. I just kind of looked up to 533 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:42,400 make sure on that. Last year, I was really confident 534 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,720 in Louisville going up against USC, and they kind of 535 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,400 face planted in that game. In fact, I think I 536 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:51,519 might have said it was the most confident I was 537 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:54,839 in any of the ACC Bowl games, and they didn't 538 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:02,039 play well at all. You know, when louis Louisville is 539 00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:08,279 a really inconsistent team. When they're good, they were really 540 00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,319 really good. I mean they played with Notre Dame, they won, 541 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,799 and Death Alley beat Clemson, but they also went on 542 00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:19,079 the road and lost to a really bad Stanford team. 543 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400 It's all going to depend on Louisville. Which team shows up. 544 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,240 The Clemson Louisville team wins this game by two touchdowns. 545 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,920 The Stanford version loses by touchdown a couple of touchdowns. 546 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:39,359 I'm gonna I'm gonna, you know what, after last season, 547 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,119 I think Louisville is going to want to end this 548 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,319 season on a high note. After that disappointment of last year, 549 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,880 they had a lot of good moments. This year. They're 550 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,279 gonna be They'll get washed. 551 00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: I think so too. And they're favored by Vegas. The 552 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,559 consensus is two and a half points, right, from all 553 00:33:56,559 --> 00:33:59,200 the books, so I think they will. But I think 554 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,039 it's not gonna be a blow out that anybody thinks 555 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:05,519 it is. Okay, we got Duke versus Old Mess here, 556 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,639 and I think that should probably be the easiest one 557 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:09,199 for you to pick. 558 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like this game for Duke. Unfortunately, you know, 559 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,519 Malik Murphy jumped into the transfer portal as fast as 560 00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:26,760 he could. I mean, great job by Manny Diaz this 561 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,280 year getting Duke to nine wins. I mean, I think 562 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,599 they really hit above their their weight class this season, 563 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,280 kind of exceeding expectations. But ole Miss is a different animal. 564 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,679 Even if they have some opt outs for this game, 565 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:48,000 I mean, any team that can compete with Georgia, and 566 00:34:48,039 --> 00:34:51,159 they didn't just compete Georgia every Georgia off the field 567 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,320 down in Oxford twenty eight to ten. So you know 568 00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:01,960 they've got you know, top notch athletes. Yeah, this this 569 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,840 one just looks like a little This one looks just 570 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,239 out of reach for Duke. Even if even if ole 571 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,519 Miss has some you know, opt outs in this game, 572 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,159 it looks a little out of their reach. I'll like 573 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,519 ole Miss to win that one. 574 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,039 Speaker 2: And finally, and I'll give you my pick here. Uh, 575 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,400 Virginia Tech is playing Minnesota, and surprisingly these teams have 576 00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:25,079 never played before, and a lot of people back in 577 00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:28,119 my area of the country are kind of excited about 578 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:30,280 it because they know that they know that I'm a 579 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,960 Virginia Tech alumnus, and everybody's been asking me what I 580 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,840 think about this. I believe Minnesota is going to be 581 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Virginia Tech. And I say that, Jeff, because they've had 582 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,159 some people who have already. I'm sure you saw the 583 00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:46,039 new news about Monsieur Delaine. 584 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah. 585 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big that's a big that's a big issue. 586 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,400 You have a coaching continuity issue there with the defensive 587 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,360 coordinator who's fired who I thought, remember we were I 588 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,159 reported it here first right that I thought something like 589 00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:05,000 this would happen In November. I reported that right at 590 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,239 all sports Discussion dot com. I thought, you know, I 591 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,360 said that that that Brent Price is going to have 592 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,280 to start making some decisions. I mean, you get you know, 593 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,920 we talked. I talked about the board of visitors, you know, 594 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,400 having to make decisions about the ad, the president, the 595 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,760 football coach, and that you know that his that Brent Price, 596 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,079 for a hand would be forced a little bit this year. 597 00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:28,360 So so already you don't have continuity at the at 598 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,639 the defensive coordinator spot. That just means that Brent Price 599 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,000 is probably going to take over the defense, which is 600 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,440 what he did when he was at Penn State. But 601 00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:40,599 the level they're also averaging texts, also losing a top 602 00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,360 offensive lineman to the transfer portal and one that's probably 603 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,559 going to play in the NFL. So they already they 604 00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:50,480 already have a thin line at at at Virginia Tech. 605 00:36:51,159 --> 00:36:54,400 And so I sense that, at least from my perspective, 606 00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:58,320 that there's some talent that's leaving. You have some continentity 607 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,760 coaching continuity issues, and I I'm I'm just going with 608 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,920 Minnesota in this game because I feel like I feel 609 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,559 like I feel like they're you picked the team that 610 00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:10,519 has coaching continuity versus the one that does not when 611 00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:11,559 you go into a poll game. 612 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:19,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, Matthew. There there's a lot 613 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,039 of you know, off the field kind of turmoil going 614 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:26,760 on with for Virginia Tech with the coaching staffs, and 615 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,360 and you know they're being they're being really hit hard 616 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:36,039 by the portal. It does you know, I do? I 617 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:38,559 can't I do see a pathway from Virginia Tech winning 618 00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:41,719 the game, but going into it, it does kind of 619 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,320 feel like, you know, Minnesota's had a little more continuity 620 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,280 going into this game, so I like the Gophers in that. 621 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,599 Speaker 2: Okay, so here we go, man, let's go to the playoff. 622 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,920 Here is Climbson arrested. You're gonna win a playoff game? Yes? 623 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,840 Or no? And can either of these teams make a 624 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,320 run to the national title. 625 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,679 Speaker 1: I'll answer the second part first. I don't think either 626 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,679 one can can run all the way to the national title. 627 00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:14,039 They both have to win four games to win the 628 00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:19,840 national championship, and you know, it's just going to be 629 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,719 very difficult for either team to go on that kind 630 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,800 of run. Now, could I see a scenario where, you know, 631 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,280 one of them wins a couple of games, Yeah, I 632 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,199 can definitely see that happening. But winning a national title, 633 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,480 you know you're in at some point going to end 634 00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:43,119 up playing you know, in Ohio State or Oregon or 635 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,840 Georgia even without a Carson Beck. I mean, they still 636 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,559 have tons of talent or a very good Notre Dame team, 637 00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,679 and you know, to not and just to even get there, 638 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,920 both of them have to knock off like top ten teams. 639 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,480 So I think the pathway is just too difficult to 640 00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:04,440 on the run the table all the way to that point. 641 00:39:04,559 --> 00:39:07,440 If if one of them did actually have an outside 642 00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:11,360 chance of pulling that off, I would have to probably 643 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:20,239 say Clemson probably from a talent standpoint, comes a little 644 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,159 bit closer to matching the overall talent of some of 645 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,119 the elite feel some of the elite teams out there, 646 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:32,119 they don't have the depth those other teams do. But 647 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,599 for that to happen, they definitely need their running game 648 00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:38,039 to be healthier. So that's going to require Phil MafA 649 00:39:38,159 --> 00:39:42,239 to to, you know, overcome some of the injuries that 650 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,760 he had towards the end of the year. But I 651 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,840 really don't see either making that kind of run as 652 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,280 far as like winning their opening game. I've had other 653 00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:01,360 people about all of the the playoffs setups so far, 654 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:04,360 and I think what you're going to see in this 655 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:10,079 opening round is one upset, two close games where the 656 00:40:10,119 --> 00:40:15,920 favorite wins, and one blowout. And since I think Indiana's 657 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000 going to be the team that is going to get 658 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:23,159 blown out, and you have Ohio State and Tennessee as 659 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,760 the other game, which will be competitive, and I think 660 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,199 Tennessee is the lower seed in that one I could see, 661 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:34,280 and up there I do see SMU and Clemson being 662 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:40,719 very competitive. It's really hard to see which one I 663 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:45,599 think might might pull the upset. Maybe leaning a little 664 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,119 bit towards Clemson as the more likely to pull up 665 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:56,559 the upset, even though I love Kevin Jennings. They're at 666 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,920 SMU at quarterback, but you're going up into Penn State 667 00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,159 in a wide out and his poor reputation as James 668 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:07,400 Franklin has in big games, and he has got an 669 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,920 awful reputation, and I think that's half the battle. That's 670 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,760 at least some of the battle there, I think. Rhet Lastly, 671 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,519 you're talking about who has an advantage on the sideline. 672 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,159 I think SMU definitely has an advantage on the sideline, 673 00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:25,239 and they'll use that ACC title game, you know, the 674 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,800 slow start in that game to not fall behind on 675 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:35,360 on Penn State. That's you know, the way that Clemson 676 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,400 game started out. But I think in the end, Penn 677 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,159 State's gonna probably be a little bit too physical for SMU. 678 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,920 But I do expect it to be, you know, within 679 00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:46,639 ten points, to get it late into the third quarter, 680 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,000 fourth quarter and SMU to have a chance when he 681 00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:54,119 comes to Texas. I mean, they have an outstanding defense, 682 00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:59,679 but they're not impossible to be that, that's for sure. 683 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,280 Georgia knocked them off, beat him in Austin, blew them 684 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,280 out in Austin, and then beat them with their backup 685 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,400 quarterback in the SEC title game. As good as Texas is, 686 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,599 they're not that great on offense. I mean, they really 687 00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:17,679 they should be, and they were earlier in the season, 688 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239 but you know, the last few weeks they've they've been 689 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,599 pretty average with ours in Manning. And you would think 690 00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:27,920 with those kind of quarterbacks that talented, they wouldn't struggle 691 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,880 as much as they have on the offensive side of 692 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,159 the ball, but they have. And and Clemson's got some 693 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,840 talent on defense. They don't have a ton of depth, 694 00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:41,039 but they've got their front eleven. And then Clemson has 695 00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:44,239 shut down some really good offenses, you know, the first 696 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,159 halfs of games. It's kind of late in games that 697 00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:51,599 they've kind of wore down when they couldn't get them 698 00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:54,159 off the field. That game's all gonna come down if 699 00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:56,159 Clemson can run the ball a little bit. They don't 700 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,079 have to run for like two hundred or something like that. 701 00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:03,000 But if they can't run the ball at all, you know, 702 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,920 I don't see Kate Klebnick being able to, you know, 703 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,239 win that game on his arm. They you know, he's 704 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,280 a good quarterback, but he's not a great quarterback, and 705 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,000 I don't I don't see him being able to put 706 00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:16,880 up the kind of performance where he kind of just 707 00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:21,079 carries the team on his on his arm. And the 708 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,840 receivers they've they've got some pretty good ones and they've 709 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,639 improved on that side, but you know, they don't have 710 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,519 a Sammy Watkins or you know, Justin Ross when he 711 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:34,119 was a freshman, or Mike Williams or DeAndre Hopkins or 712 00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:38,159 anyone like that. Maybe some might develop into that, but 713 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,840 they really got to have that running game. And so 714 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,159 that's the key. If Clemson can run for seventy five 715 00:43:44,199 --> 00:43:46,920 to one hundred yards, they'll have a great chance to 716 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,000 beat Texas. But that's going to be the question. 717 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,639 Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, it's open microphone time, Jeff, And 718 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,440 I'm gonna put this out there first, and I'm gonna 719 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,599 be like, I'm going to be the Devil's advocate naysayer 720 00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:05,199 and say that North Carolina will be lucky if they 721 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,800 get Bill Belichick for a year, because I think he's 722 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,800 just using the school to try to get another shot 723 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:20,920 at an NFL deal. Am I wrong? Jeff? He has 724 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:27,119 a one year, but the buyout goes down substantially after 725 00:44:27,199 --> 00:44:30,519 one year, you know what I mean? From my basically 726 00:44:30,559 --> 00:44:33,199 ten MILLI like he can't you know, like if he leaves, 727 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,920 let's say where he were to leave, like in two months, 728 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,119 he'd have to pay ten million to get out. If 729 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,599 if you waited a year, it's just one million. And 730 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,679 I'm just telling you that I feel like he's using 731 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,719 North Carolina right now to further his own needs and 732 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,079 is not really looking at what the what the institution, 733 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,039 the institutional needs or anything, or trying to make them 734 00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:02,480 successful or not. Jeff. So maybe I'm maybe I sound 735 00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:05,599 like I'm being harsh here, you know, because I was 736 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,760 because I never thought that it was a bad idea 737 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,599 for them to say Cyanora to mac Brown. I thought 738 00:45:12,639 --> 00:45:14,400 that was the right move. I perhaps thought it was 739 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,679 maybe a year or two year or too late, you know, 740 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,679 but and I think they probably could have hired somebody 741 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:24,920 else for that for that position. But I don't feel 742 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,639 like he's a long term, you know, higher for North Carolina. 743 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,480 I could be flat out wrong, you know, because he's 744 00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:35,719 you know, apparently there are stories out there about him 745 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,079 getting the money that he needs, the resources that he needs, 746 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,000 and that sort of thing, you know, to be to 747 00:45:42,079 --> 00:45:45,360 win immediately. And there are boosters on that clan, on 748 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,360 that clan that want to get North Carolina to a 749 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,079 better conference, and they'll need to get football better, not 750 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,280 because it drives the bus and all that stuff. But 751 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,440 I am curious on. 752 00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:01,079 Speaker 1: Your you know, I don't I'm going to take the 753 00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:06,159 opposite stance on this. I don't think he did ask 754 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,039 for so many things before he would take the North 755 00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:15,760 Carolina job, and they gave him pretty much everything he was, 756 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,360 you know, asking for. And I think, you know, I 757 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,159 think he wants to be able to prove that he 758 00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:29,239 can rebuild a program, whether it would have been in 759 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,800 the NFL or again, because we'd heard rumors that he'd 760 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,280 interviewed for the Falcon's job a few a couple of 761 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,440 years ago and that other jobs. And I think he 762 00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:43,360 really took its taking it as a challenge to rebuild 763 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,519 a program. And you know, I think North Carolina is 764 00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,360 going to be that restoration project he's going to try 765 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,960 to work on. I don't think he's going to use 766 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,440 it to angle, and I could be wrong. You could 767 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,360 definitely be right. But I don't think he's using it 768 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,159 to angle for another job. You know, in a year 769 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,440 or two. I think he's probably looking at three to 770 00:47:06,559 --> 00:47:09,840 four years at North Carolina and see if he can, 771 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,280 if he can build up a program and kind of, 772 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,079 you know, kind of validate himself that he can, you know, 773 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,199 win big without Tom Brady. Kind of like Tom Brady 774 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,280 going down to Tampa Bay and winning the Super Bowl. 775 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,719 You know, tom Brady's got that monkey off his back. 776 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,119 You know, he proved he could win without Belichick, and 777 00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:30,360 now I think Belichick is going to try to do 778 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,960 the do the same. So I don't think he's using 779 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,239 it to angle for another job. But definitely I could 780 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,119 be wrong. We might look at it in twelve months 781 00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:42,199 from now and be like, Matthew, you were right all along. 782 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: Okay, So you got a good article. You want to 783 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,880 talk about it about about how out of North Carolina, 784 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,119 Georgia Tech gave the accs and publicity or rampant probolicity. 785 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll use this for my my open mic. 786 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,800 I mean, it's been an ACC problem for years, you know, 787 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,679 trying to get football exposure. And they always said, hey, 788 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,199 if you win, you know the exposure will come. And 789 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:13,559 to a certain extent that is true, but you know 790 00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:17,320 that doesn't always you know, that's not always the case 791 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,159 because you know, when you look at the SEC, the 792 00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:24,519 way that covers the ESPN would give him. I mean, 793 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,760 if one of their coaches sneezed it was being covered, 794 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,119 or one of the players or anything, it was like NonStop. 795 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,800 So the ACC and their teams they have to be 796 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,079 creative about how they kind of break that that SEC 797 00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:45,519 big ten media media wall. And I think one of 798 00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:49,599 the things that North Carolina has done with Belichick hiring, 799 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,719 and you know it's a little bit of a risky strategy, 800 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,920 but by by getting him in the door, they've been 801 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400 in the news cycle for like a week straight. The 802 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920 day after they got hired, I turned on sports radio, 803 00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,880 and National Sports Radio is talking about it the whole time. 804 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,239 I'm I'm in the car. All the national radio shows 805 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,480 and all the national shows that ESPN has, they're talking 806 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,760 about Belichick. They're talking, we're talking about them today on 807 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,920 their NFL preview shows. They're talking about Bill Belichick, and 808 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,159 so when they're talking about Belichick, they're talking about North 809 00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:31,960 Carolina and to a lesser extent, they're talking about, uh, 810 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,800 the ACC. And I think you're going to start to 811 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,119 see more programs kind of take this approach. And I'm 812 00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,920 gonna call it the Dion Sanders effect, where you just 813 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:48,599 go after an absolute, you know, massive personality, former player, 814 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,559 former coach who has all kinds of you know, playing 815 00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:56,719 or coaching credibility and looking for something new and just 816 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,599 have it there on the on the on the news cycle. 817 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:02,320 I mean, I think I wrote into article like, you know, 818 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,199 is anybody called Peyton Manning or Tom Brady asking if 819 00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:08,599 they want to get into coaching and you know think 820 00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:11,039 if they were hired at those schools that at some 821 00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:15,360 school it'd be in there NonStop. So I think North 822 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,440 Carolina has hit on something that maybe other other programs 823 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:23,039 might might take a take a shot at. When it 824 00:50:23,039 --> 00:50:25,039 comes to Georgia Tech, I think they did a couple 825 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,719 of things this year. There have been a couple of 826 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,360 ports eight that depending on who you read, Georgia Tech 827 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,639 was you know, either the highest rated ACC program in 828 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,760 terms of viewership this year or you know, right behind Miami. 829 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,880 I read one that had Georgia Tech one and the 830 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,239 other one read Miami. But in either case, Georgia Tech 831 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,400 drew massive numbers for a seven and five team. And 832 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,599 what they did is their two o their highest profile 833 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:02,000 games were in exclusive windows. They were willing to play 834 00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:06,119 their opening game with Florida State in Ireland in Week zero. 835 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,559 That game drew five million and was the game of 836 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:12,440 the weekend Game day was there that was that was 837 00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,119 a massive game. And then they played Georgia on a 838 00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:20,880 Friday night, you know, the day after Thanksgiving. Clemson, for example, 839 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,519 turned that game down Georgia Tech and Georgia went ahead 840 00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:28,320 and played that game. Turned out to be a great game, 841 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,280 but you know, and that's part of it. Game drew 842 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,199 like eight and a half million people, one of the 843 00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:36,440 biggest draws and the highest to feature any ACC team 844 00:51:36,519 --> 00:51:40,679 this year. So that's another thing is for ACC teams 845 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,119 to have that flexibility. You know that SEC is going 846 00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:46,840 to get those best time slots on ABC. I mean, 847 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,000 there's just nothing you can do about that. They're just 848 00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,519 going to do it. So you got to be creative, 849 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,920 and you know, if they ask you to play in 850 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,960 an exclusive window time slot. It's probably in your best 851 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,280 interest to take it because people are gonna watch. I 852 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:07,239 think Virginia Tech and South Carolina. I'm hearing that they 853 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:13,599 might be the Sunday night game between on the Labor 854 00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:16,599 Day weekend, if I understand? Is that right? Is that confirmed? 855 00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 2: What was what was the question, Jeff? 856 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: Who's the labor I think isn't Virginia Tech and South 857 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,559 Carolina playing on the Sunday of Labor Day next week? 858 00:52:25,679 --> 00:52:26,199 Next year? 859 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,280 Speaker 2: I think so? Yes, I know they're opening, they're opening this. Yes, 860 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,800 they're opening the season against each other. And I also 861 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,360 think that that's bad news for In fact, well I'm 862 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,760 saying as a fan, that's bad news for Virginia Tech 863 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,199 because Virginia Tech's gonna get waxed in that game. 864 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,679 Speaker 1: Oh well, that's a different story. But a lot of 865 00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:49,159 people are gonna be especially with sellers coming back. 866 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,039 Speaker 2: You know, it's the whole narrative, Jeff, because you're gonna 867 00:52:54,039 --> 00:52:57,840 see Frank Bieber with a with the South Carolina you know, 868 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,079 Jersey On, You're gonna see Seane Beemer and you're going 869 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,239 to say, oh, they were at Virginia Tech for years, 870 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,400 and no, I don't even actually I buy Yeah, so 871 00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:09,039 in theory is good for the ACC to have I 872 00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:11,280 agree with your larger point. It's good to have exposure 873 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,639 for that. But this is not gonna look this is 874 00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:16,119 this is this part here is not gonna look good 875 00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:17,239 for the conference, I think. 876 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,159 Speaker 1: So, I mean probably maybe they want to move that 877 00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:21,239 one to a different slot. 878 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I might move that to 879 00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:26,519 like like the like the eleventh, if they could have 880 00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:29,119 a game at eleven thirty on the ACC network or 881 00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,719 something like that, I'd probably be more supportive of that. 882 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean when you when 883 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,000 you get those kind of slots, you do have to 884 00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:40,559 make the game competitive. And I mean Georgia Tech was 885 00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:43,239 a heavy underdog at that time to Florida State won 886 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,880 the game before Florida State imploded, and then they go 887 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,119 and play North play Georgia the SEC champion in an 888 00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:54,199 instant classic eight overtime games. So yeah, it's one thing 889 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,760 to have the game be highly competitive and entertaining versus 890 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,400 a blowout. And uh but still the idea is in 891 00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:04,280 the heart's in the right place to get that in 892 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,760 a in a in a typical year, that would be 893 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,840 a really good matchup to have on a exclusive window 894 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,519 and who knows, maybe Virginia Tech will be you know, 895 00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,960 ready for that game. I mean same with Georgia Tech 896 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,920 and Florida State. At that time of the year. Many 897 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,840 people you know had at Georgia Tech losing that game 898 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,360 and as a thirteen to fourteen point underdog, so still 899 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,360 got to give them a chance. But going into that game, 900 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,559 I think South Carolina is gonna They're. 901 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,760 Speaker 2: Gonna be South Carolina is going to be a huge 902 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,519 favorite because Virginia Tech's losing a lot of players and 903 00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:41,920 it's uh I honestly, I I don't know. We're gonna 904 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,679 find out a whole lot about Virginia Tech's football program 905 00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,559 next year, and we can have a completely separate podcast 906 00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:51,360 about that because there's gonna be a lot decisions coming 907 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,480 from a lot of people about futures in multiple areas 908 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,119 at Virginia Tech. Jeff, what a great podcast tonight. Good 909 00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:02,320 to chat with you. Matt zamac will be with us 910 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,039 here next week for the final podcast in twenty twenty four. 911 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. I'm gonna reach out to you 912 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,719 separately Matthew about that podcast time. 913 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 2: Sounds great. Take care all right, bye?