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Speaker 4: Man? Oh man? I am great.

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Speaker 4: The upgrade that you got going on here.

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Speaker 5: Last time we met up man, you was down at

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Speaker 2: Bro Hey, living it right, living right.

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what do you remember about this rivalry game and what

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it meant to you when you were balling in.

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Speaker 4: It Ah State rivalry game.

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Speaker 5: Obviously the hatred was there, although everybody seems to be

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family and we had to win, it was gonna be brutal.

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Speaker 2: Well, you guys dominated the rivalry back in your day.

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Speaker 3: I mean actually, well, when Ronnie Back took over in

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nineteen ninety, there was a little bit of a flip

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Utah began to win more football games post nineteen ninety

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than they had private that.

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Speaker 4: Personally, I'm won in one okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one to one.

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Speaker 4: My junior year we lost, they beat us at home

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and we.

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Speaker 5: Returned to favor. My senior year went up to Utah

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and beat them at home. Ye, so you know, I'm

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won in one, and man, I love to see the game.

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I knew it wasn't going on for a while, and

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you know, as a as a former player, I'm like,

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how could you not play Utah.

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Speaker 3: Or New Game? Well in those in those games, let's

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talk about the win. Ninety six. You guys went up

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the Rice at coach, What do you remember about that

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ninety six game?

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Speaker 4: Man, the ninety six game was vindication. Man. We went

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up there on a mission. As a team. We were

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pretty good.

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Speaker 5: We had some ringings coming up, we have some different

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personnel groupings. We were lethal and we wanted to prove

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that our first year that they came home and beat

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us was luck.

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Speaker 3: Well, you guys did it, and you did it with

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an exclamation point me personally two and o versus the

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Mighty Utes of the North. But this game under Kyle

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Whittingham has been dominated by the Utes. He's eleven and

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five all time as the head coach. Okay of the

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University of Utah versus b y U. B Y you

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looking to send him home with a six loss and

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a third straight loss. BYU is two and zero over

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the last two games. They have a two game winning streak.

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What makes you believe that b YU is coming up

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with a win tonight under the lights of level.

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Speaker 5: We're at home under the lights of level. That's that's

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one of the keys right there. I think our confidence

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is pretty high. I think the player are mashing at

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a good time, coming off the victory last week and

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the fashion that we wanted and was able to keep

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it together and pull it out.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back, little technical difficulty. Tim mctire by

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my side talking the BYU Utah rivalry game. Appreciate you

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all tuning in, chiming in wherever you're tuning in to,

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chiming in from Big Newton kickoff was here earlier. Today

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the rivalry game is being put on the map.

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Speaker 2: BYU versus Utah.

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Speaker 3: We've known about the rivalry for a long time, haven't

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been a part of it, but the rest of the

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nation they're being put on notice that this is one

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of the best, if not the best ribbery game in

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college football, Timmy, how special is that to know that

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others are being introduced to this robbery and the singular

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nature that it is.

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Speaker 5: I think it's amazing because, I mean, throughout sports, one

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of the key games of the year is the rivalry game.

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And everybody knows certain rivalry games throughout their board that

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they watch. And for this Utah BYU game to finally

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start gaining that notoriety as as both teams are coming

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into their own their own on the.

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Speaker 4: Map, it's good to see the rivalry be looked at

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like this.

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Speaker 3: Key matchups in this game that I'm looking at as

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far as play calling, it's concerned Aaron Roderick versus Morgan Scalley.

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Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued by that battle.

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Speaker 3: But for some it's Jason Beck versus j Hill BYU's

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defensive coordinator. Who do you think wins out in these

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coordinator battles tonight at Lavelle?

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Speaker 5: Well, if we're going to win the game, both BYU

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coordinators would.

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Speaker 4: Have to win out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it got you need both well, And the other

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one is actually Special Teams like K pop has been balling.

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Uh K Pop and that from a statistical standpoint, ESPNSP

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plus actually has the biggest disparity between the two teams,

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I believe in the Special Teams room, Utah is currently

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right forty fourth in the country and Special Teams BYU

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sixth in the country.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so that's what made us good when we played

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and when we got our vindication was man, we had

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awesome special teams with James Die who's supposed to be

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meeting me here somewhere in.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: James is coming, yes, somewhere down down on his row.

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Speaker 5: He's supposed to meet me. But Special Teams. I became

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a K pop fan last year. As you know, for

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the past several years, I've been screaming, we need special teams,

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and we need special teams, and last year we got

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special teams and a couple of different variations. Man, And

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I love to see special teams guy as a special

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team guy. I left BYU and I became a special

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teams guy.

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Speaker 2: So I love it, Love that, man.

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Speaker 3: Another matchup I'm looking at is bear Bachmeyer versus Devin Dampierre.

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Bear Bachmeyer has thrown for and twenty yards thus far

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the season, damp Pier at thirty one. Dam Piers rushed

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for three hundred and seventy eight yards, whereas I think

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Bears around like two two nine years, so uh so

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not too far off from that. They've both been balling

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out in both the run and pass game for their

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respective teams. They look very similar out.

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Speaker 4: There, so they sound like the same guy.

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Speaker 2: Right, pretty similar.

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Speaker 3: I mean Devin Dappiers, I mean give taking he's five

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nine two ten, you know, like two hundred pounds, and

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he's more like like kind of like a mix between

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like Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray type of player and bear

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Bachmar looks like Tim Tebow out there running.

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Speaker 4: Around, but their stats are similar.

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Speaker 5: So if stats are similar, if I couldn't watch the

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game and i'm and I'm looking at just stats, they

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seem like the same quarterback. And what I mean by

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that is is that their game plan seems to be similar.

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Regardless of their body type and their attributes, they seem

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to be doing the same kind of thing for their.

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Speaker 2: Offense, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: As far as the running, uh the running ability of

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both these teams, Utah has two dynamic running backs and

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Speaker 2: Martin and Bear Bachmeyer.

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Speaker 3: Which rushing game bodes best for their respective teams to

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be determined to night.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, it's always hard when you allow

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two guys to get off, let alone a third to

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come in and have any kind of production. I always

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look at how BYU starts off. If LJ starts working,

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good man, give him the ball and keep giving it

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to him. And if he's not, we have to do

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a couple of things. But I think in order for

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us to be able to pull this one out, he

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has to at least have eighty two hundred yards.

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Speaker 3: Would love to see it, Jay Hill told us earlier

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this week that Jack Kelly will be full go tonight.

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Speaker 2: He took last week off versus.

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Speaker 3: U of A. They stated he could have played, he

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didn't play, b like you still got the win. How important?

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How pivotal can Jack Kelly be tonight versus the UTS?

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Speaker 5: I think Jack's going play a pivotal role because he

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brings a lot of athleticism back to the squad running

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that sideline of sideline. We have a couple more that

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can do that. With Damon Glasker, I think he adds

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another dimension of Glasger and helps out a lot in

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Speaker 3: Well, Tim mctyre here by my side, former BYU, great

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defensive bag talking BYU versus Utah one of the more

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intriguing battles as well, if I'm talking these position battles,

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coordinating battles. Andrew Gentry right tackle, Isaiah john and left

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tackle going against two former BYU Cougar football players and

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Logan Fano and John Henry Daily. They both transferred from BYU.

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They ended up at Utah. They're they're starting defensive ends

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right now, John Henry Daily and Logan Fano versus BYU's

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offensive tackles. Look thus far this season John Henry is

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one of the best pass rushers in college football.

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Speaker 2: He's talented. Eight sacks thus far the season.

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Speaker 5: That is amazing. So far this season, a sacks is

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a lot.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 3: What's that to Kiyofo that there are two former BYU

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players that are starting along the defense line.

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Speaker 2: We got one too, Keanu Tanabasa.

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Speaker 3: We got one. Shout out to the BYU fans. Let's

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go baby killing it leve you guys appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: That seems to be a theme within the past ten years.

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Speaker 2: Of the cross pollination, the back and forth.

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Speaker 4: Even between coaches. You know, it's just like like I said, man,

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it's a rivalry, but everybody's family.

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Speaker 5: I coach with Fino's dad right now, so that's how

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I know those guys. And I've been keeping an eye

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Speaker 4: Of course, will Snowdon Son to be playing as well.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, like I said, I love it because

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's a big deal, man. It's

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a real big deal out here.

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Speaker 5: And if once you get to know and watch a

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BYU Utah rivalry game, you'll totally understand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the BYU coaching staff and those

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that have crossed pollinated a little bit. Obviously, Kalannie was

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J Hill a former Utah U defense back, but he

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played at Ricks prior to that. Aaron Roderick, although a

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former b YU Cougar, was up at the up on

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the Hill for years as the OC quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 2: We have.

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Speaker 3: I think Justin Enna spent time up there. Sioni Polo

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is a former player and coach up at the U.

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Gary Anderson former coach up at the U. Chad k

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was coaching up at the U, I believe, also Ray

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Raylan Singleton, former football player at the U. There's a

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ton of of crossover here up there.

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Speaker 2: You have Jason Beck, former b YU Cougar football player.

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Speaker 3: You have Koy Detman Koy Detmer junior quarterbacks coach, Micah Simon,

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former b YU wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Like, just go down the list that mark is up there.

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I think there's like it's like six and seven.

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Speaker 3: There's like seven coaches on Bay staff that had affiliation

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with Utah and six on their staff that had affiliation

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Speaker 5: That's crazy, But that's that's funny. Man, it's crazy, it's funny.

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It's amazing to see how that works out. Indeed, it

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is give me as corporatediction. How do you see this

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game playing out tonight? Man, I'm gonna go typical thirty

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one thirty four BYU.

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Speaker 3: Thirty one thirty four BYU and they win by a

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Speaker 2: That's not too bad. I'm not too shabby.

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Speaker 8: I'm not too shabby.

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Speaker 5: I think both teams are are in the thirty point

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range as far as talent, as far as what they've

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been doing all year, give and take.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna come down to field position and mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Yep, no doubt about it. Tim mctire.

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BYU not the favorite in this game. They are a

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three and a half dog over under his set at

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forty nine and a half could be a most scoring event.

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Speaker 2: I like Tim's prediction.

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Speaker 3: It would be awesome if it was a high scoring

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event over forty nine and a half.

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rivalry game. Coming up here momentarily, but let me level

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set for you. B Yu is not a favorite in

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this game. Vegas kay has Utah is a three and

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a half point favorite. The over under set at forty

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nine and a half. It's a kickoff of six pm

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on Fox. Big Noon Kickoff was here earlier today to

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feature the rivalry game. This is a rivalry game unlike

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any other, and I think the nation is being put

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on notice as to the volatility and the violence that

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occurs in this game in between fans and in between

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the lines on the gridiron. It's a sold out crowd

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tonight over sixty four thousand strong. We'll converge on Lavelle

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Edwards Stadium and it's gonna be glorious.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and five in this rivalry game. Okay,

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he has dominated this rivalry game. I think his legacy

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is built off of this ribery games. And he has

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lost two straight now in this rivaly game, which Kilanie

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is a big part of. BYU under Kialanie is two

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to four in the rivaly game. ESPN Analytics giving BYU

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a slight favorite in this game. Is a slight favorite

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in this game. Chance of victory hopefully for the Cougars.

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The injury report Marcus McKenzie on BYU side, Jojo Phillips,

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Shay Bryan Strauthershoni Moa, Tommy Prash's Raider, De Mooney, and

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Nissi Percell all may not be playing.

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Speaker 2: Anissi is probable though.

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Speaker 3: Uh. The Utah injury report Rabbit Evans, Nate Richie, Dadrin Zipperer,

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Hunter Andrews, Josh Sovereign, Paul Fitzgerald, Grady Morecco, and Isaiah

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Garcia all out this game. Okay, so that's your level

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set for all you Cougar fans and Cougar country. Let's

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welcome in Steve Klements, former BUYU quarterback, to break down

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this game.

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Speaker 2: Steve, how thatck are you?

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Speaker 8: Buddy? I'm good man, How are you good?

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Speaker 2: Which game are you.

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Speaker 3: Most intrigued by thus far in the college football world?

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Speaker 9: I'm locked into the I've been locked into this one

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since the day after we won.

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Speaker 8: We beat him up there last year.

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Speaker 3: So oh yeah, I'm locked into this one, dude, and

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it's a it's a great game. UH BYU is one

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of eleven FBS teams remaining that are still undefeated. Okay,

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they were fantastic last year, they're fantastic this year.

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: UH is currently playing ASU. They may fall to UH

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to ASU today. We'll see how that plays out. College

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football cannibalism at its finest. But how do you see

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this game playing out today under the lights of level

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BYU versus Utah?

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Speaker 2: Steve?

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, probably, just like anyone else, it's gonna be.

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It'll be close. It's you know, if you look at it,

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you look at the two staffs, where Klanna came from,

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where a Rod came from. UH it's it's almost like

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Utah is playing themselves to a point, both offensively and defensively.

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J Hill defensive or Utah product a rod you know

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under Kyle obviously Klannee and so U you know. I

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see it as like a twenty three to twenty one

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game for the why and then I don't think I

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think there's gonna be a turnover. I think Utah is

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gonna get the last position. There's gonna be a turnover.

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Dam Piers are either gonna throw it or put it

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on the ground. Throw it to us and need to

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put it on the ground. I don't think they have

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a chance to kick the field goal. So I think

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we run out of the clock, we win twenty three

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to twenty one. But I will say this, I wouldn't

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be surprised if because of our defense and I don't

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think offensively they're not the greatest offensive team, I could

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see us winning by ten to eleven points, double digits.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be shocked. I don't think it's gonna be

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Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be a close scoring game, and

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I think it's gonna be what's the over forty nine?

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gonna be fun. Remember a couple of years ago when

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what's interesting. Everyone's like, Okay, Vegas knows. Okay,

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let's say Vegas was like forty nine and a half.

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forty seven and a half. A lot of a lot

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of betters out there, and that's what Vegas is in

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the game of betting. Sure, they're picking the over at

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forty seven and a half at the opening, and and

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money could still be moving towards the over. I'm like,

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what do they know that we don't know? Sure?

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Speaker 8: And I think you can have something where.

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Speaker 9: We get hot. We get hot in the second half,

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we get hot in the second quarter, and we string

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on you know, a couple of touchdowns or ten points

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in a row. Well, we get a turnover and capitalize

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on it, whether it's pick six or scoop and score

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or something like that, and then we capitalize offensively. I

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wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's you know, I tell

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my you know, I'm from the great state of Texas,

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and I tell my friends all the time. I'm telling

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you you.

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Speaker 8: Know, you have Kyle field down in Texas, A and M.

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Speaker 9: And then you have the hedges and you have you know,

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football in the South, which is a predominant religion down there.

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there's only sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven thousand people,

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but it sounds like one hundred and sixty seven thousand people.

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I remember a couple of years ago the only time,

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and I've told my kids that are with me and

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my wife, I said, look, this is what's going to happen.

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Don't You'll know when it's halftime, when you sit down,

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Like that's the only time you're gonna sit down is halftime.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 9: You're going to stand up the whole time. You've been yelling,

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screaming the whole time. And it's just it's a.

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Speaker 8: Great atmosphere and it's a great rivalry. And you know

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what if it's a little bit nasty.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm still old school.

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Speaker 8: I think it's I.

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Speaker 9: Think it's fine, like as long as we don't get personal, really, dude,

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it's it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 8: Like I don't know, I'm looking forward to it. I'm jack, do.

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Speaker 3: You know I've always said the f b yu chance,

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I'm perfectly fine, we just don't.

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Speaker 2: Don't convert it into the religious thing. But that's what

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Speaker 3: The rivalry game to me, in in many regard.

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Speaker 2: Is church versus state.

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Speaker 3: We call it the Holy War for a reason, because

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there's a religious aspect.

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Speaker 2: How about church versus state. There's a little bit of

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that too.

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Speaker 3: It's secularism, you know, the state school versus the private sure,

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religious school.

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Speaker 9: Sure, but it's only church state because of the private

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religious Because goodness gracious, Yeah, there's probably a lot more

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missionaries that come from BYU than Utah, but they have

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their fair share.

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Speaker 3: They got their firshair of Latter day states at the

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school up north.

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Speaker 8: We'll call it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Indeed, BYU is ranked, Utah is ranked. This is

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only the fourth time in Holy War history that both

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teams are ranked.

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Speaker 2: They are competing for.

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Speaker 3: This is somewhat a playing game for the Big twelve chainampiship.

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Some people are saying there are CFP implications on the line.

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Is this the biggest rivalry game in BYU Utah history?

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Speaker 9: I think it's got to be right up there because

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of what you just stated. Uh, and I think with

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and I think K have probably talked about that that

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it's it's bigger than just the team down south against

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the team up north. You know, yeah, it's way bigger

469
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than that, because again, like you talked about the implications

470
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going forward that now you're going to get into the

471
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top fifteen, top ten if one of the two or

472
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winning one of the two wins, and you're right there

473
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in discussion with everybody else the Ohio States and Indiana's.

474
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Speaker 8: Which is insane and we're talking about Indiana as.

475
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Speaker 4: A football school. It's crazy year or two.

476
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Speaker 9: But but yeah, I think you know, the focus is

477
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,720
going to be there's such a more of a bigger

478
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,839
picture than it is a just a robbery, you know.

479
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Speaker 8: And uh, I think it's something that.

480
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Speaker 9: Both coaches they've been to, they've done this, they understand

481
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and the team, both teams are gonna play their butts off,

482
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but uh, I think the team up north comes up

483
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a little short at the end.

484
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Speaker 3: So Steve, you got you were you were thrown under

485
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the bus a bit on social media, and it's our

486
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fault here at ESPN, the fan in fault camp. I'll

487
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take the blame. Fault camp. You hopped onto our show.

488
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You had just been down at BYU's practice and we

489
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were talking about Beart Bachmeyer, and you said, look, bear

490
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Bachmeyer reminds me of a better throwing, more accurate Tim Tebow.

491
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Speaker 2: And Utah fans had a heyday with it.

492
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Speaker 3: They're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe Steve Klements

493
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would say that.

494
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Speaker 2: Okay, And what's funny is.

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Speaker 3: Now everyone's on board at watching bear Bachmeyer for the

496
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last six seven weeks and.

497
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Speaker 2: Was like, oh my gosh, the six.

498
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Speaker 3: Foot two, two hundred and thirty five pound running quarterback

499
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that can also throw a little bit better than Tim

500
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at least in this freshman year, is looking like Tim Tebow.

501
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Speaker 2: Check this out, Brady Quinn.

502
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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Brady Quinn's a part of Big newon Kickoff.

503
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Brady Quinn one of the best college football quarterbacks over

504
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,000
the last thirty years played in the NFL. This is

505
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what he had to say in in his evaluation of

506
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bear Bachmeyer. I mean, Barret just got here one cher

507
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and it's really tough play as a true freshman.

508
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Speaker 2: I'm not hearing that you're trying to manage class. I

509
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,319
don't hear it. Okay, we'll get it, we'll get it

510
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dialed in.

511
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Speaker 3: But you know what I'm getting with this.

512
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Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with this, sure.

513
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Speaker 9: And and I completely understand the team up North coming

514
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,079
after a comment like that. I understand that I wasn't

515
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saying Obviously, I wasn't saying he's he should be up

516
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for the Eisman Trophy.

517
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Speaker 8: You know, it wasn't. It wasn't the team that one trophy.

518
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,319
Speaker 9: That's what you sat the plaque of the famous speech

519
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240
that he gave against whoever they were playing the SEC.

520
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,680
It was just on the field performance and and their

521
00:27:25,759 --> 00:27:33,440
styles are very similar. And and yeah, of course something

522
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,599
to go after because Tim Tebow whys Hesman Trophy with

523
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,599
her And I mean.

524
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Speaker 8: He threw it fifty times. What does he know? I'd

525
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been around the game a little bit, and so like, uh.

526
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Speaker 3: Wasn't all American all American ladies and gentlemen.

527
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Speaker 9: And so I get that, but yeah, I'm sticking to it.

528
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,279
I I just told somebody the other day away, what

529
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,920
do you think about Bears Like, he's a better throwing

530
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,880
Tim Tebow?

531
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Speaker 8: Bear to throwing right handed Tim Tebow.

532
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: I'll qualify he's a right handed Tim Tebow.

533
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 9: That The only thing that worries me in this, really,

534
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,920
this gauntlet of Big twelve play, is can he sustain

535
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:16,000
the hits that he's in heavily gonna take not from

536
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,839
a Portland state, I mean.

537
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: But you see him lower, happy built. He's built like

538
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:22,480
a centaur, just like just like.

539
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 9: LK freaking garbage dumpster, you know, holy crap, dude.

540
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:35,799
Speaker 8: Anyway, Yeah, the six twenty No, no, I don't know. No,

541
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maybe his sophomore year in high school. He's two twenty, but.

542
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Speaker 3: The last time he was twenty was his sophomore season

543
00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:45,359
in high school. Yeah, Batman is not two hundred and

544
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,920
twenty pounds, he's two thirty five, but he's almost two forty.

545
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,839
Speaker 9: He's fun to watch, and I'm glad that that a

546
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:55,680
Rod has enough in the pantries where he can go, Okay,

547
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240
I've got bear, so I can take this out of

548
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:01,799
the pantry and cook this type of based on the

549
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,440
talent that he has here in Provo. And so he's

550
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:12,079
been able to do that very successfully. Yep, we haven't played.

551
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:16,359
I mean, it's been red velvet cupcakes. It's been chocolate

552
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,480
chip cupcakes the first five or so game.

553
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 8: I get all that, but you know you at at

554
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the end of the day.

555
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,559
Speaker 9: You have to run the ball. You have to play

556
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,119
good defense. Yeah, you got to have a solid special team,

557
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,799
you really do. I mean, yeah, Mike Leach was great,

558
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:36,880
but he never won the big games because all they

559
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,720
did was throw the ball.

560
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Speaker 8: All he did was you don't throw the ball, and

561
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:42,039
they struggled in the big games.

562
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Speaker 9: And you have to be able to run the ball

563
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in these big games, especially these rivalry games. And it's

564
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,480
just it's something that you know, both teams have a

565
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,400
good running attack. I mean, I think Utah's ranked first

566
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000
in the conference, where you might be second or second

567
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,599
and third or something like that, and you will look

568
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,680
at the tail of the tape and they're very evenly

569
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:06,759
matched as far as the running game. But it's important.

570
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:11,559
I mean, winning hands their top fifteen program every freaking

571
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,759
year because they play great defense and they control the

572
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:20,000
ball on offense by running the football and the recipe works.

573
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,400
And that's now what b Yu's doing with a freshman quarterback,

574
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and they put him in a position they don't think

575
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he has.

576
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Speaker 8: To do everything to win the game.

577
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

578
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Speaker 9: I don't care about the management part, like the game management.

579
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:37,000
I get a Carterway. He's just a game manager. Okay,

580
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:38,720
so what does he win? I don't really care if

581
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,240
he manages it?

582
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:39,759
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

583
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 8: Okay, good, that's fine, good, yes, managing the game.

584
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Look, he had to run the ball twenty two

585
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680
times versus u of a in order to win. Now,

586
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,000
that is an outlier. Is a wet game, as a

587
00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:52,279
wild one down in Tucson with a store and delay,

588
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,519
they end up they end up running him twenty two times,

589
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,079
and fifteen of those came to the fourth quarter and

590
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,079
ot to win the game. Sometimes you got to run

591
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,880
the ball with your quarterback to win football games. You do.

592
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,839
Speaker 8: And then they won the game?

593
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: Yep, did you win?

594
00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 10: Did you lose?

595
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:12,079
Speaker 9: And if you win being a coach, former coach, you win.

596
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:12,960
It's a player's fault.

597
00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:13,359
Speaker 3: You lose.

598
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,119
Speaker 8: His coach as fault, you know. And so and they won.

599
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 9: And yeah, everybody's gonna say, oh, that's because of bearing,

600
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,359
because of the.

601
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Speaker 3: Well, check these stats out real quick. So ESPN SP

602
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:31,240
plus SP plus is a predictive efficiency rating. Okay, that

603
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,880
I leaning to. I think it's an accurate depiction of

604
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,759
who these teams are overall thus far this season. Utah

605
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:44,119
sixteenth in the country per SP plus BYU's twenty third. Okay,

606
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:48,599
but look at how the ratings play out. Utah's thirty

607
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,200
third in offense, six in defense, and then forty eight

608
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:57,279
in special teams. Okay, so you got thirty three, six

609
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:03,480
and forty eight. BYU is fortieth on offense, fifteenth on defense,

610
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and six on special teams. Last year, BYU won on

611
00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:12,319
a kickoff return in a game winning field goal.

612
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: They're special teams.

613
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Speaker 3: Traditionally in this rivalry under Kyle Whittingham, you could say

614
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that there were a couple of things trench warfare. They

615
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,759
won the trench battle, but then they also won special teams.

616
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,720
We're seeing an inverse. Now BYU is competitive in the

617
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,519
trench warfare game. They may be just as good in

618
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:34,720
the trench warfare game, and their special teams unit's better

619
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than Utah's. I think that's the that's the change in

620
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:42,599
the rivalry, even though they're very congruent, symmetric almost in

621
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,799
statistics this season, Like that's where by is better or

622
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,319
at least equivalent and could have an edge in this

623
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,319
competition tonight.

624
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's why they say you have to be

625
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,480
really good in all three phases, not just.

626
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,839
Speaker 3: But we tend to focus on offense or defense and

627
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,200
never we neglect the special teams.

628
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:05,519
Speaker 9: Well, sure we do, because that's the sexy thing to

629
00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:08,720
look at. It's offense or defense or what special team,

630
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,519
Like a kickers and you know they're weird and you

631
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,680
know all that stuff, but my gosh, they they win games.

632
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,119
And yeah, they're they're they're they're only famous or infamous.

633
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 8: There's no middle ground.

634
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 9: Yes for kickers, you know, they're they're the goat or

635
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:32,839
the hero, you know, and not goat in a good sense,

636
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,480
getting a goat in a bad sense. But but yeah,

637
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:37,480
it's gonna come down to that.

638
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,039
Speaker 8: It's you're you're right, it's gonna come down to that.

639
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: Here in a couple hours, Well, kickoff, you're in the

640
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,400
next couple of hours. It's four forty one here along

641
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,559
the lost at front BYU fans Utah fans converging on

642
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,480
h Lavelle Edwards Stadium. It's a sold out crowd and

643
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:55,680
it's gonna be a lively when we need the Twelfth

644
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,359
Man to show up.

645
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:58,599
Speaker 2: How disruptive do you think.

646
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: The Royal Army and the roar of the Cougars will

647
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,680
be at Lavelle Edwards Stadium tonight.

648
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,839
Speaker 2: Do we see some false starts? Do we see a little.

649
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: Bit of disruption in that communication between Devin dan Pierre.

650
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,760
Much is made of Bear Bachmeyer playing in this first

651
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,599
rivalry game.

652
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,039
Speaker 2: What about Devin dan Pierre.

653
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: He's never played in an environment like this, He's never

654
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,280
played on the road versus a rival with sixty five

655
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,719
thousand fans strong yelling at him.

656
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,079
Speaker 10: No.

657
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 9: Absolutely, and people don't talk about that. You talk about

658
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,519
the home team, and they're the ones that have the pressure.

659
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,360
Bear has all the pressure because he's a freshman and

660
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,360
he's never dealt with this robbery game before. But you

661
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,920
know what, none of these kids, I say kids because

662
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,360
I'm old, but none of these kids have experienced a

663
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:51,079
rivalry where they're both ranked. They weren't both ranked last

664
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,800
year when we played each other, you know. So it

665
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,679
could be said that everybody this is their first experience

666
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:03,079
in this game, in this situation with with the states

667
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,639
as high as they are, not just in the conference,

668
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:11,920
but on the national uh on the national setting, on

669
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960
the national in the national picture of of uh C

670
00:35:15,079 --> 00:35:19,760
f P and the playoffs. So I think that's a wash.

671
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,320
You know, you're you're gonna have to rely on your

672
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,800
your training. Uh, but yeah, I think there will be disruption.

673
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:29,480
There better be some freaking disruption on the On the

674
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:30,880
other sidelines.

675
00:35:31,039 --> 00:35:35,519
Speaker 3: Steve Clement's former b y U quarterback shiming in uh

676
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:39,159
and pontificating on our airwaves. Great to catch up with you.

677
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,519
It sounds like you're you're predicting a b y U W.

678
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,119
It's gonna be a close one and I appreciate you

679
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joining me today.

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Speaker 8: You bet man.

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great guess we'll continue to break down this BYU Utah

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Ribbery game the Holy War, and my brother, former BYU

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defensive back Matthew Krittle just gave me his score prediction,

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by the way, twenty eight twenty four BYU.

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Speaker 10: Baby.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like, you know, since we're so blue

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goggled here, since we're all day every day BYU, we'd

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get a former Utah football player on our show real

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quick to counter and shout out to Zach. It's outa

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to Brady, my nephew also showing up. And I also

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have a former BYU great in front of me as well.

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ALTI for ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, buddy. Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, we'll welcome into the show. Former Utah fullback and

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one of my favorite people to interact with.

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Speaker 2: We got Scott Cottis on the line. Scottie, how you living?

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Speaker 3: Hew?

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Speaker 10: You doing? My boy? How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Man? I'm doing awesome appreciation you being here. You got

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some rectech. Uh, pulled pork cow was the beild?

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Speaker 10: Fantastic? Y'all know how to cook down here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we know how to do it here in provo.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You've been a part of this robbery.

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Speaker 3: You've you've seen the back and forth right you were

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you know, you were a part of a different era

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of this rivaly and it's been pretty dominant towards the

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Utes in the modern era. So you've had bragging rights

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on us for a long time. But I've got the

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last two under my belt.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 3: I'm two and zero now in the In the last

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few games, we're trying to get to three and zero

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and setting Kyle out on a three game losing streak

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before retirement. How do you see this game playing out tonight?

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Speaker 11: You know, I see it being a defensive battle. I

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think both defenses are set up to stop one another

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to make it a make it a very tight night game. Personally,

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I think it's gonna come down to turnovers, and I

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think it may even come down to injury. To believe

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it or not, I think both sides some have some

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thinness in their skill positions, and if if one of

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those one or two of those those guys go down,

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it could change the game dramatically.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you look at it from a history

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historical standpoint, nineteen seventy two to nineteen ninety, BYU dominate.

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From nineteen ninety to twenty ten, it's fifty to fifty

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right down the middle. From twenty ten to present day

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it's mostly Utah with two wins, most recently in BYU's favor.

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What makes you believe that Kyle Whitningham's gonna finally get

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a win in order to sail off into the sunset

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of retirement before you know tonight.

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Speaker 11: Look, I've been around the program a lot of years,

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and I can just tell you the adjustments that are

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made by some of these longtime coaches, Morgan Scalley, Kyle

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Whittingham under his tutelage.

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Speaker 10: I think it's hard to go.

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Speaker 11: Against that kind of history, that kind of coaching legacy. Uh,

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you know, some adjustments are gonna be made. You know,

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they're gonna dial up some things, uh for uh for

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Bachmeyer that maybe he hasn't seen. Uh, they're gonna, they're

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gonna they're gonna cloud the coverages. They're gonna giving dip looks.

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So it's hard to it's hard to beat a good

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team twice.

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Speaker 3: And Utah is a very good team. I'm gonna throw

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something out at you. Utah is a good team. By

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WA's a good team. Both of these teams symmetrically look

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very similar. You know, from a statistics standpoint, they're very congruent. Uh.

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Even Kyle Winningham and his press get in his press

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conference earlier this week, stated that these teams are very

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similar in style and form and faction fashion.

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Speaker 2: What's crazy is this.

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Speaker 3: I've always said that in the modern era, the reason

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why Utah's has been better than BYU is because they've

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had more resources, They've got the PAC twelve money, they

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don't have an honor code, and their academic standards are

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slightly lower than Brigham's. There was no reason why Utah

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should lose to BYU in the modern era. Now, since

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BYU has now been in the Big Twelve. Now they're

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in the third year. Now they have the resources now,

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And there's always been this talent gap that you talk about.

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The talent gap isn't there anymore, and the resource gap

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isn't there anymore.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're seeing the tournament of the rivalry.

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Speaker 10: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: I think BYU in the last several years has come

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on strong. I think since inclusion in the Big Twelve

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changed that dramatically.

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Speaker 10: And the recruiting. Obviously b YU was always.

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Speaker 11: Good at recruiting, but being a part of the Big

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Twelve certainly changes that trajectory.

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Speaker 2: That four affiliation health percent.

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Speaker 10: So you're right, the talent gap is much smaller. I

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think it comes down to x's and o's now and

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who can execute.

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Speaker 3: Quite frankly, that's interesting because I was like one of

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the most intriguing battles from a coordinating standpoint, and who

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you pick and Jason Beck the new OC former BUAU

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quarterback versus j Hill the former Utah defensive back, or

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or are you looking at you know you have Morgan

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Scaley versus Aaron Roderick. There Morgan Scalley, former Utah defensive

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back DC Aaron Roddick, former BUAU wide receiver OC.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yep, it's it's really between these two coordinators. I

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can't I can't think of a better X's and o's matchup.

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And I would love to be in the press box

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next to those guys as their diagram and stuff and

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picking apart each other's schemes.

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Speaker 10: It would be fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Well, give me your score prediction.

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Speaker 3: I need a Utah fan and former football player to

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give me the contrarian view here.

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Speaker 11: Just because it's gonna be a defensive battle, I'm gonna

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put it at twenty four to twenty one. Utah walks

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away on a field goal just to make up for

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last year.

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Speaker 2: Brother, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: That would be That would be a tremendous. There has

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many games in which this has been determined by a

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field goal. I look at the Kenni Shiro missed kick.

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I look at Burton coming off the edge in twenty

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ten and blocking the field goal, at rice ecles Will

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Farron hitting a field goal. How about twenty twelve, By

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you're missing three consecutive field goals, they could have tied it.

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Speaker 11: And who could forget the year was part of the

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Utah program in nineteen ninety two. When you're gonnaon kicked

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the field goal here on this field and we.

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Speaker 10: Actually tore down your goal post.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, forget that.

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Speaker 3: Wow kicking Yeah, just insane. Shout out to Scott Cottage,

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former by former Utah fullback. Excuse me, he should have

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been a BYU Cougar Hey. Shout out to the Hanniman

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family showing up as well. Love the Hanniman family, the

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legacy family of the Hanniman's here, oh, and the Nelson

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family here as well. Shout out to Dave, Big Dave.

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All right, we're gonna take a brief time out. Appreciate you, Scotti,

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Thank you, sir. Don't go anywhere, Kugarnation. We're live from

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the Swig just south of the Lavelle Edwards Stadium. Come

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and get some delicious pulled pork, Royal Army brand gear.

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Shout out to all of our sponsors. Can't do our

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back. Kugrenation. Don't go anywhere. This is Cougar

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Sports one O three nine ninety eight point three e