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break down this game with all you Cougar fans in
Cougar Country, Timmy, how that are you?
Speaker 4: Man? Oh man? I am great.
Speaker 5: That's awesome to see this, this this sight here in
this atmosphere, the upgrade in the.
Speaker 4: The upgrade that you got going on here.
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what do you remember about this rivalry game and what
it meant to you when you were balling in.
Speaker 4: It Ah State rivalry game.
Speaker 5: Obviously the hatred was there, although everybody seems to be
family and we had to win, it was gonna be brutal.
Speaker 2: Well, you guys dominated the rivalry back in your day.
Speaker 3: I mean actually, well, when Ronnie Back took over in
nineteen ninety, there was a little bit of a flip
Utah began to win more football games post nineteen ninety
than they had private that.
Speaker 4: Personally, I'm won in one okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one to one.
Speaker 4: My junior year we lost, they beat us at home
and we.
Speaker 5: Returned to favor. My senior year went up to Utah
and beat them at home. Ye, so you know, I'm
won in one, and man, I love to see the game.
I knew it wasn't going on for a while, and
you know, as a as a former player, I'm like,
how could you not play Utah.
Speaker 3: Or New Game? Well in those in those games, let's
talk about the win. Ninety six. You guys went up
the Rice at coach, What do you remember about that
ninety six game?
Speaker 4: Man, the ninety six game was vindication. Man. We went
up there on a mission. As a team. We were
pretty good.
Speaker 5: We had some ringings coming up, we have some different
personnel groupings. We were lethal and we wanted to prove
that our first year that they came home and beat
us was luck.
Speaker 3: Well, you guys did it, and you did it with
an exclamation point me personally two and o versus the
Mighty Utes of the North. But this game under Kyle
Whittingham has been dominated by the Utes. He's eleven and
five all time as the head coach. Okay of the
University of Utah versus b y U. B Y you
looking to send him home with a six loss and
a third straight loss. BYU is two and zero over
the last two games. They have a two game winning streak.
What makes you believe that b YU is coming up
with a win tonight under the lights of level.
Speaker 5: We're at home under the lights of level. That's that's
one of the keys right there. I think our confidence
is pretty high. I think the player are mashing at
a good time, coming off the victory last week and
the fashion that we wanted and was able to keep
it together and pull it out.
Speaker 4: And it's a rivalry game, you know the rivalry games all.
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Speaker 3: All right, we're back, little technical difficulty. Tim mctire by
my side talking the BYU Utah rivalry game. Appreciate you
all tuning in, chiming in wherever you're tuning in to,
chiming in from Big Newton kickoff was here earlier. Today
the rivalry game is being put on the map.
Speaker 2: BYU versus Utah.
Speaker 3: We've known about the rivalry for a long time, haven't
been a part of it, but the rest of the
nation they're being put on notice that this is one
of the best, if not the best ribbery game in
college football, Timmy, how special is that to know that
others are being introduced to this robbery and the singular
nature that it is.
Speaker 5: I think it's amazing because, I mean, throughout sports, one
of the key games of the year is the rivalry game.
And everybody knows certain rivalry games throughout their board that
they watch. And for this Utah BYU game to finally
start gaining that notoriety as as both teams are coming
into their own their own on the.
Speaker 4: Map, it's good to see the rivalry be looked at
like this.
Speaker 3: Key matchups in this game that I'm looking at as
far as play calling, it's concerned Aaron Roderick versus Morgan Scalley.
Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued by that battle.
Speaker 3: But for some it's Jason Beck versus j Hill BYU's
defensive coordinator. Who do you think wins out in these
coordinator battles tonight at Lavelle?
Speaker 5: Well, if we're going to win the game, both BYU
coordinators would.
Speaker 4: Have to win out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it got you need both well, And the other
one is actually Special Teams like K pop has been balling.
Uh K Pop and that from a statistical standpoint, ESPNSP
plus actually has the biggest disparity between the two teams,
I believe in the Special Teams room, Utah is currently
right forty fourth in the country and Special Teams BYU
sixth in the country.
Speaker 5: Okay, so that's what made us good when we played
and when we got our vindication was man, we had
awesome special teams with James Die who's supposed to be
meeting me here somewhere in.
Speaker 4: A little bit.
Speaker 2: James is coming, yes, somewhere down down on his row.
Speaker 5: He's supposed to meet me. But Special Teams. I became
a K pop fan last year. As you know, for
the past several years, I've been screaming, we need special teams,
and we need special teams, and last year we got
special teams and a couple of different variations. Man, And
I love to see special teams guy as a special
team guy. I left BYU and I became a special
teams guy.
Speaker 2: So I love it, Love that, man.
Speaker 3: Another matchup I'm looking at is bear Bachmeyer versus Devin Dampierre.
Bear Bachmeyer has thrown for and twenty yards thus far
the season, damp Pier at thirty one. Dam Piers rushed
for three hundred and seventy eight yards, whereas I think
Bears around like two two nine years, so uh so
not too far off from that. They've both been balling
out in both the run and pass game for their
respective teams. They look very similar out.
Speaker 4: There, so they sound like the same guy.
Speaker 2: Right, pretty similar.
Speaker 3: I mean Devin Dappiers, I mean give taking he's five
nine two ten, you know, like two hundred pounds, and
he's more like like kind of like a mix between
like Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray type of player and bear
Bachmar looks like Tim Tebow out there running.
Speaker 4: Around, but their stats are similar.
Speaker 5: So if stats are similar, if I couldn't watch the
game and i'm and I'm looking at just stats, they
seem like the same quarterback. And what I mean by
that is is that their game plan seems to be similar.
Regardless of their body type and their attributes, they seem
to be doing the same kind of thing for their.
Speaker 2: Offense, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: As far as the running, uh the running ability of
both these teams, Utah has two dynamic running backs and
even their RB three that's DJ Byu is built through LJ.
Speaker 2: Martin and Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 3: Which rushing game bodes best for their respective teams to
be determined to night.
Speaker 5: Oh, you know what, it's always hard when you allow
two guys to get off, let alone a third to
come in and have any kind of production. I always
look at how BYU starts off. If LJ starts working,
good man, give him the ball and keep giving it
to him. And if he's not, we have to do
a couple of things. But I think in order for
us to be able to pull this one out, he
has to at least have eighty two hundred yards.
Speaker 3: Would love to see it, Jay Hill told us earlier
this week that Jack Kelly will be full go tonight.
Speaker 2: He took last week off versus.
Speaker 3: U of A. They stated he could have played, he
didn't play, b like you still got the win. How important?
How pivotal can Jack Kelly be tonight versus the UTS?
Speaker 5: I think Jack's going play a pivotal role because he
brings a lot of athleticism back to the squad running
that sideline of sideline. We have a couple more that
can do that. With Damon Glasker, I think he adds
another dimension of Glasger and helps out a lot in
the defense.
Speaker 3: Well, Tim mctyre here by my side, former BYU, great
defensive bag talking BYU versus Utah one of the more
intriguing battles as well, if I'm talking these position battles,
coordinating battles. Andrew Gentry right tackle, Isaiah john and left
tackle going against two former BYU Cougar football players and
Logan Fano and John Henry Daily. They both transferred from BYU.
They ended up at Utah. They're they're starting defensive ends
right now, John Henry Daily and Logan Fano versus BYU's
offensive tackles. Look thus far this season John Henry is
one of the best pass rushers in college football.
Speaker 2: He's talented. Eight sacks thus far the season.
Speaker 5: That is amazing. So far this season, a sacks is
a lot.
Speaker 4: I don't care.
Speaker 3: What's that to Kiyofo that there are two former BYU
players that are starting along the defense line.
Speaker 2: We got one too, Keanu Tanabasa.
Speaker 3: We got one. Shout out to the BYU fans. Let's
go baby killing it leve you guys appreciate it.
Speaker 4: That seems to be a theme within the past ten years.
Speaker 2: Of the cross pollination, the back and forth.
Speaker 4: Even between coaches. You know, it's just like like I said, man,
it's a rivalry, but everybody's family.
Speaker 5: I coach with Fino's dad right now, so that's how
I know those guys. And I've been keeping an eye
on certain guys by who I know here.
Speaker 4: Of course, will Snowdon Son to be playing as well.
Speaker 5: So I mean, like I said, I love it because
it's a rivalry and everybody's family.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's a big deal, man. It's
a real big deal out here.
Speaker 5: And if once you get to know and watch a
BYU Utah rivalry game, you'll totally understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the BYU coaching staff and those
that have crossed pollinated a little bit. Obviously, Kalannie was
up at the U for ten years as the defensive coordinator.
J Hill a former Utah U defense back, but he
played at Ricks prior to that. Aaron Roderick, although a
former b YU Cougar, was up at the up on
the Hill for years as the OC quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 2: We have.
Speaker 3: I think Justin Enna spent time up there. Sioni Polo
is a former player and coach up at the U.
Gary Anderson former coach up at the U. Chad k
was coaching up at the U, I believe, also Ray
Raylan Singleton, former football player at the U. There's a
ton of of crossover here up there.
Speaker 2: You have Jason Beck, former b YU Cougar football player.
Speaker 3: You have Koy Detman Koy Detmer junior quarterbacks coach, Micah Simon,
former b YU wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Like, just go down the list that mark is up there.
I think there's like it's like six and seven.
Speaker 3: There's like seven coaches on Bay staff that had affiliation
with Utah and six on their staff that had affiliation
with BYU.
Speaker 5: That's crazy, But that's that's funny. Man, it's crazy, it's funny.
It's amazing to see how that works out. Indeed, it
is give me as corporatediction. How do you see this
game playing out tonight? Man, I'm gonna go typical thirty
one thirty four BYU.
Speaker 3: Thirty one thirty four BYU and they win by a
field goal.
Speaker 2: That's not too bad. I'm not too shabby.
Speaker 8: I'm not too shabby.
Speaker 5: I think both teams are are in the thirty point
range as far as talent, as far as what they've
been doing all year, give and take.
Speaker 4: It's gonna come down to field position and mistakes.
Speaker 2: Yep, no doubt about it. Tim mctire.
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BYU not the favorite in this game. They are a
three and a half dog over under his set at
forty nine and a half could be a most scoring event.
Speaker 2: I like Tim's prediction.
Speaker 3: It would be awesome if it was a high scoring
event over forty nine and a half.
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BYU Cougar quarterback to break down his thoughts on this
rivalry game. Coming up here momentarily, but let me level
set for you. B Yu is not a favorite in
this game. Vegas kay has Utah is a three and
a half point favorite. The over under set at forty
nine and a half. It's a kickoff of six pm
on Fox. Big Noon Kickoff was here earlier today to
feature the rivalry game. This is a rivalry game unlike
any other, and I think the nation is being put
on notice as to the volatility and the violence that
occurs in this game in between fans and in between
the lines on the gridiron. It's a sold out crowd
tonight over sixty four thousand strong. We'll converge on Lavelle
Edwards Stadium and it's gonna be glorious.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 3: Kyle Whittingham is eleven and five in this rivalry game. Okay,
he has dominated this rivalry game. I think his legacy
is built off of this ribery games. And he has
lost two straight now in this rivaly game, which Kilanie
is a big part of. BYU under Kialanie is two
to four in the rivaly game. ESPN Analytics giving BYU
a slight favorite in this game. Is a slight favorite
in this game. Chance of victory hopefully for the Cougars.
The injury report Marcus McKenzie on BYU side, Jojo Phillips,
Shay Bryan Strauthershoni Moa, Tommy Prash's Raider, De Mooney, and
Nissi Percell all may not be playing.
Speaker 2: Anissi is probable though.
Speaker 3: Uh. The Utah injury report Rabbit Evans, Nate Richie, Dadrin Zipperer,
Hunter Andrews, Josh Sovereign, Paul Fitzgerald, Grady Morecco, and Isaiah
Garcia all out this game. Okay, so that's your level
set for all you Cougar fans and Cougar country. Let's
welcome in Steve Klements, former BUYU quarterback, to break down
this game.
Speaker 2: Steve, how thatck are you?
Speaker 8: Buddy? I'm good man, How are you good?
Speaker 2: Which game are you.
Speaker 3: Most intrigued by thus far in the college football world?
Speaker 9: I'm locked into the I've been locked into this one
since the day after we won.
Speaker 8: We beat him up there last year.
Speaker 3: So oh yeah, I'm locked into this one, dude, and
it's a it's a great game. UH BYU is one
of eleven FBS teams remaining that are still undefeated. Okay,
they were fantastic last year, they're fantastic this year.
Speaker 2: Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: UH is currently playing ASU. They may fall to UH
to ASU today. We'll see how that plays out. College
football cannibalism at its finest. But how do you see
this game playing out today under the lights of level
BYU versus Utah?
Speaker 2: Steve?
Speaker 9: Well, I mean, probably, just like anyone else, it's gonna be.
It'll be close. It's you know, if you look at it,
you look at the two staffs, where Klanna came from,
where a Rod came from. UH it's it's almost like
Utah is playing themselves to a point, both offensively and defensively.
J Hill defensive or Utah product a rod you know
under Kyle obviously Klannee and so U you know. I
see it as like a twenty three to twenty one
game for the why and then I don't think I
think there's gonna be a turnover. I think Utah is
gonna get the last position. There's gonna be a turnover.
Dam Piers are either gonna throw it or put it
on the ground. Throw it to us and need to
put it on the ground. I don't think they have
a chance to kick the field goal. So I think
we run out of the clock, we win twenty three
to twenty one. But I will say this, I wouldn't
be surprised if because of our defense and I don't
think offensively they're not the greatest offensive team, I could
see us winning by ten to eleven points, double digits.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be shocked. I don't think it's gonna be
like that.
Speaker 9: I think it's gonna be a close scoring game, and
I think it's gonna be what's the over forty nine?
I think it'll be under that I think, but it's
gonna be fun. Remember a couple of years ago when
I came.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's interesting. Everyone's like, Okay, Vegas knows. Okay,
let's say Vegas was like forty nine and a half.
Everyone's picking the under right now, but it opened at
forty seven and a half. A lot of a lot
of betters out there, and that's what Vegas is in
the game of betting. Sure, they're picking the over at
forty seven and a half at the opening, and and
money could still be moving towards the over. I'm like,
what do they know that we don't know? Sure?
Speaker 8: And I think you can have something where.
Speaker 9: We get hot. We get hot in the second half,
we get hot in the second quarter, and we string
on you know, a couple of touchdowns or ten points
in a row. Well, we get a turnover and capitalize
on it, whether it's pick six or scoop and score
or something like that, and then we capitalize offensively. I
wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it's you know, I tell
my you know, I'm from the great state of Texas,
and I tell my friends all the time. I'm telling
you you.
Speaker 8: Know, you have Kyle field down in Texas, A and M.
Speaker 9: And then you have the hedges and you have you know,
football in the South, which is a predominant religion down there.
Oh yeah, but goodness gracious, on a Saturday night in Provo, Utah, dude,
there's only sixty five, sixty six, sixty seven thousand people,
but it sounds like one hundred and sixty seven thousand people.
I remember a couple of years ago the only time,
and I've told my kids that are with me and
my wife, I said, look, this is what's going to happen.
Don't You'll know when it's halftime, when you sit down,
Like that's the only time you're gonna sit down is halftime.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 9: You're going to stand up the whole time. You've been yelling,
screaming the whole time. And it's just it's a.
Speaker 8: Great atmosphere and it's a great rivalry. And you know
what if it's a little bit nasty.
Speaker 9: You know, I'm still old school.
Speaker 8: I think it's I.
Speaker 9: Think it's fine, like as long as we don't get personal, really, dude,
it's it's fine.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 8: Like I don't know, I'm looking forward to it. I'm jack, do.
Speaker 3: You know I've always said the f b yu chance,
I'm perfectly fine, we just don't.
Speaker 2: Don't convert it into the religious thing. But that's what
I said, which happened.
Speaker 3: The rivalry game to me, in in many regard.
Speaker 2: Is church versus state.
Speaker 3: We call it the Holy War for a reason, because
there's a religious aspect.
Speaker 2: How about church versus state. There's a little bit of
that too.
Speaker 3: It's secularism, you know, the state school versus the private sure,
religious school.
Speaker 9: Sure, but it's only church state because of the private
religious Because goodness gracious, Yeah, there's probably a lot more
missionaries that come from BYU than Utah, but they have
their fair share.
Speaker 3: They got their firshair of Latter day states at the
school up north.
Speaker 8: We'll call it.
Speaker 3: Yes, Indeed, BYU is ranked, Utah is ranked. This is
only the fourth time in Holy War history that both
teams are ranked.
Speaker 2: They are competing for.
Speaker 3: This is somewhat a playing game for the Big twelve chainampiship.
Some people are saying there are CFP implications on the line.
Is this the biggest rivalry game in BYU Utah history?
Speaker 9: I think it's got to be right up there because
of what you just stated. Uh, and I think with
and I think K have probably talked about that that
it's it's bigger than just the team down south against
the team up north. You know, yeah, it's way bigger
than that, because again, like you talked about the implications
going forward that now you're going to get into the
top fifteen, top ten if one of the two or
winning one of the two wins, and you're right there
in discussion with everybody else the Ohio States and Indiana's.
Speaker 8: Which is insane and we're talking about Indiana as.
Speaker 4: A football school. It's crazy year or two.
Speaker 9: But but yeah, I think you know, the focus is
going to be there's such a more of a bigger
picture than it is a just a robbery, you know.
Speaker 8: And uh, I think it's something that.
Speaker 9: Both coaches they've been to, they've done this, they understand
and the team, both teams are gonna play their butts off,
but uh, I think the team up north comes up
a little short at the end.
Speaker 3: So Steve, you got you were you were thrown under
the bus a bit on social media, and it's our
fault here at ESPN, the fan in fault camp. I'll
take the blame. Fault camp. You hopped onto our show.
You had just been down at BYU's practice and we
were talking about Beart Bachmeyer, and you said, look, bear
Bachmeyer reminds me of a better throwing, more accurate Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2: And Utah fans had a heyday with it.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe Steve Klements
would say that.
Speaker 2: Okay, And what's funny is.
Speaker 3: Now everyone's on board at watching bear Bachmeyer for the
last six seven weeks and.
Speaker 2: Was like, oh my gosh, the six.
Speaker 3: Foot two, two hundred and thirty five pound running quarterback
that can also throw a little bit better than Tim
at least in this freshman year, is looking like Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2: Check this out, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Brady Quinn's a part of Big newon Kickoff.
Brady Quinn one of the best college football quarterbacks over
the last thirty years played in the NFL. This is
what he had to say in in his evaluation of
bear Bachmeyer. I mean, Barret just got here one cher
and it's really tough play as a true freshman.
Speaker 2: I'm not hearing that you're trying to manage class. I
don't hear it. Okay, we'll get it, we'll get it
dialed in.
Speaker 3: But you know what I'm getting with this.
Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with this, sure.
Speaker 9: And and I completely understand the team up North coming
after a comment like that. I understand that I wasn't
saying Obviously, I wasn't saying he's he should be up
for the Eisman Trophy.
Speaker 8: You know, it wasn't. It wasn't the team that one trophy.
Speaker 9: That's what you sat the plaque of the famous speech
that he gave against whoever they were playing the SEC.
It was just on the field performance and and their
styles are very similar. And and yeah, of course something
to go after because Tim Tebow whys Hesman Trophy with
her And I mean.
Speaker 8: He threw it fifty times. What does he know? I'd
been around the game a little bit, and so like, uh.
Speaker 3: Wasn't all American all American ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 9: And so I get that, but yeah, I'm sticking to it.
I I just told somebody the other day away, what
do you think about Bears Like, he's a better throwing
Tim Tebow?
Speaker 8: Bear to throwing right handed Tim Tebow.
Speaker 2: I'll qualify he's a right handed Tim Tebow.
Speaker 9: That The only thing that worries me in this, really,
this gauntlet of Big twelve play, is can he sustain
the hits that he's in heavily gonna take not from
a Portland state, I mean.
Speaker 3: But you see him lower, happy built. He's built like
a centaur, just like just like.
Speaker 9: LK freaking garbage dumpster, you know, holy crap, dude.
Speaker 8: Anyway, Yeah, the six twenty No, no, I don't know. No,
maybe his sophomore year in high school. He's two twenty, but.
Speaker 3: The last time he was twenty was his sophomore season
in high school. Yeah, Batman is not two hundred and
twenty pounds, he's two thirty five, but he's almost two forty.
Speaker 9: He's fun to watch, and I'm glad that that a
Rod has enough in the pantries where he can go, Okay,
I've got bear, so I can take this out of
the pantry and cook this type of based on the
talent that he has here in Provo. And so he's
been able to do that very successfully. Yep, we haven't played.
I mean, it's been red velvet cupcakes. It's been chocolate
chip cupcakes the first five or so game.
Speaker 8: I get all that, but you know you at at
the end of the day.
Speaker 9: You have to run the ball. You have to play
good defense. Yeah, you got to have a solid special team,
you really do. I mean, yeah, Mike Leach was great,
but he never won the big games because all they
did was throw the ball.
Speaker 8: All he did was you don't throw the ball, and
they struggled in the big games.
Speaker 9: And you have to be able to run the ball
in these big games, especially these rivalry games. And it's
just it's something that you know, both teams have a
good running attack. I mean, I think Utah's ranked first
in the conference, where you might be second or second
and third or something like that, and you will look
at the tail of the tape and they're very evenly
matched as far as the running game. But it's important.
I mean, winning hands their top fifteen program every freaking
year because they play great defense and they control the
ball on offense by running the football and the recipe works.
And that's now what b Yu's doing with a freshman quarterback,
and they put him in a position they don't think
he has.
Speaker 8: To do everything to win the game.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 9: I don't care about the management part, like the game management.
I get a Carterway. He's just a game manager. Okay,
so what does he win? I don't really care if
he manages it?
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 8: Okay, good, that's fine, good, yes, managing the game.
Speaker 3: Okay, Look, he had to run the ball twenty two
times versus u of a in order to win. Now,
that is an outlier. Is a wet game, as a
wild one down in Tucson with a store and delay,
they end up they end up running him twenty two times,
and fifteen of those came to the fourth quarter and
ot to win the game. Sometimes you got to run
the ball with your quarterback to win football games. You do.
Speaker 8: And then they won the game?
Speaker 2: Yep, did you win?
Speaker 10: Did you lose?
Speaker 9: And if you win being a coach, former coach, you win.
It's a player's fault.
Speaker 3: You lose.
Speaker 8: His coach as fault, you know. And so and they won.
Speaker 9: And yeah, everybody's gonna say, oh, that's because of bearing,
because of the.
Speaker 3: Well, check these stats out real quick. So ESPN SP
plus SP plus is a predictive efficiency rating. Okay, that
I leaning to. I think it's an accurate depiction of
who these teams are overall thus far this season. Utah
sixteenth in the country per SP plus BYU's twenty third. Okay,
but look at how the ratings play out. Utah's thirty
third in offense, six in defense, and then forty eight
in special teams. Okay, so you got thirty three, six
and forty eight. BYU is fortieth on offense, fifteenth on defense,
and six on special teams. Last year, BYU won on
a kickoff return in a game winning field goal.
Speaker 2: They're special teams.
Speaker 3: Traditionally in this rivalry under Kyle Whittingham, you could say
that there were a couple of things trench warfare. They
won the trench battle, but then they also won special teams.
We're seeing an inverse. Now BYU is competitive in the
trench warfare game. They may be just as good in
the trench warfare game, and their special teams unit's better
than Utah's. I think that's the that's the change in
the rivalry, even though they're very congruent, symmetric almost in
statistics this season, Like that's where by is better or
at least equivalent and could have an edge in this
competition tonight.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that's why they say you have to be
really good in all three phases, not just.
Speaker 3: But we tend to focus on offense or defense and
never we neglect the special teams.
Speaker 9: Well, sure we do, because that's the sexy thing to
look at. It's offense or defense or what special team,
Like a kickers and you know they're weird and you
know all that stuff, but my gosh, they they win games.
And yeah, they're they're they're they're only famous or infamous.
Speaker 8: There's no middle ground.
Speaker 9: Yes for kickers, you know, they're they're the goat or
the hero, you know, and not goat in a good sense,
getting a goat in a bad sense. But but yeah,
it's gonna come down to that.
Speaker 8: It's you're you're right, it's gonna come down to that.
Speaker 3: Here in a couple hours, Well, kickoff, you're in the
next couple of hours. It's four forty one here along
the lost at front BYU fans Utah fans converging on
h Lavelle Edwards Stadium. It's a sold out crowd and
it's gonna be a lively when we need the Twelfth
Man to show up.
Speaker 2: How disruptive do you think.
Speaker 3: The Royal Army and the roar of the Cougars will
be at Lavelle Edwards Stadium tonight.
Speaker 2: Do we see some false starts? Do we see a little.
Speaker 3: Bit of disruption in that communication between Devin dan Pierre.
Much is made of Bear Bachmeyer playing in this first
rivalry game.
Speaker 2: What about Devin dan Pierre.
Speaker 3: He's never played in an environment like this, He's never
played on the road versus a rival with sixty five
thousand fans strong yelling at him.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, and people don't talk about that. You talk about
the home team, and they're the ones that have the pressure.
Bear has all the pressure because he's a freshman and
he's never dealt with this robbery game before. But you
know what, none of these kids, I say kids because
I'm old, but none of these kids have experienced a
rivalry where they're both ranked. They weren't both ranked last
year when we played each other, you know. So it
could be said that everybody this is their first experience
in this game, in this situation with with the states
as high as they are, not just in the conference,
but on the national uh on the national setting, on
the national in the national picture of of uh C
f P and the playoffs. So I think that's a wash.
You know, you're you're gonna have to rely on your
your training. Uh, but yeah, I think there will be disruption.
There better be some freaking disruption on the On the
other sidelines.
Speaker 3: Steve Clement's former b y U quarterback shiming in uh
and pontificating on our airwaves. Great to catch up with you.
It sounds like you're you're predicting a b y U W.
It's gonna be a close one and I appreciate you
joining me today.
Speaker 8: You bet man.
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nine ninety eight point three ES. Yeah, buddy, welcome back,
Cougar Sports Onetal three nine ninety eight point three.
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Ribbery game the Holy War, and my brother, former BYU
defensive back Matthew Krittle just gave me his score prediction,
by the way, twenty eight twenty four BYU.
Speaker 10: Baby.
Speaker 3: But I feel like, you know, since we're so blue
goggled here, since we're all day every day BYU, we'd
get a former Utah football player on our show real
quick to counter and shout out to Zach. It's outa
to Brady, my nephew also showing up. And I also
have a former BYU great in front of me as well.
ALTI for ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, buddy. Good to see you guys.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll welcome into the show. Former Utah fullback and
one of my favorite people to interact with.
Speaker 2: We got Scott Cottis on the line. Scottie, how you living?
Speaker 3: Hew?
Speaker 10: You doing? My boy? How you doing?
Speaker 3: Man? I'm doing awesome appreciation you being here. You got
some rectech. Uh, pulled pork cow was the beild?
Speaker 10: Fantastic? Y'all know how to cook down here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know how to do it here in provo.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You've been a part of this robbery.
Speaker 3: You've you've seen the back and forth right you were
you know, you were a part of a different era
of this rivaly and it's been pretty dominant towards the
Utes in the modern era. So you've had bragging rights
on us for a long time. But I've got the
last two under my belt.
Speaker 2: Brother.
Speaker 3: I'm two and zero now in the In the last
few games, we're trying to get to three and zero
and setting Kyle out on a three game losing streak
before retirement. How do you see this game playing out tonight?
Speaker 11: You know, I see it being a defensive battle. I
think both defenses are set up to stop one another
to make it a make it a very tight night game. Personally,
I think it's gonna come down to turnovers, and I
think it may even come down to injury. To believe
it or not, I think both sides some have some
thinness in their skill positions, and if if one of
those one or two of those those guys go down,
it could change the game dramatically.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, you look at it from a history
historical standpoint, nineteen seventy two to nineteen ninety, BYU dominate.
From nineteen ninety to twenty ten, it's fifty to fifty
right down the middle. From twenty ten to present day
it's mostly Utah with two wins, most recently in BYU's favor.
What makes you believe that Kyle Whitningham's gonna finally get
a win in order to sail off into the sunset
of retirement before you know tonight.
Speaker 11: Look, I've been around the program a lot of years,
and I can just tell you the adjustments that are
made by some of these longtime coaches, Morgan Scalley, Kyle
Whittingham under his tutelage.
Speaker 10: I think it's hard to go.
Speaker 11: Against that kind of history, that kind of coaching legacy. Uh,
you know, some adjustments are gonna be made. You know,
they're gonna dial up some things, uh for uh for
Bachmeyer that maybe he hasn't seen. Uh, they're gonna, they're
gonna they're gonna cloud the coverages. They're gonna giving dip looks.
So it's hard to it's hard to beat a good
team twice.
Speaker 3: And Utah is a very good team. I'm gonna throw
something out at you. Utah is a good team. By
WA's a good team. Both of these teams symmetrically look
very similar. You know, from a statistics standpoint, they're very congruent. Uh.
Even Kyle Winningham and his press get in his press
conference earlier this week, stated that these teams are very
similar in style and form and faction fashion.
Speaker 2: What's crazy is this.
Speaker 3: I've always said that in the modern era, the reason
why Utah's has been better than BYU is because they've
had more resources, They've got the PAC twelve money, they
don't have an honor code, and their academic standards are
slightly lower than Brigham's. There was no reason why Utah
should lose to BYU in the modern era. Now, since
BYU has now been in the Big Twelve. Now they're
in the third year. Now they have the resources now,
And there's always been this talent gap that you talk about.
The talent gap isn't there anymore, and the resource gap
isn't there anymore.
Speaker 2: That's why we're seeing the tournament of the rivalry.
Speaker 10: One hundred percent.
Speaker 11: I think BYU in the last several years has come
on strong. I think since inclusion in the Big Twelve
changed that dramatically.
Speaker 10: And the recruiting. Obviously b YU was always.
Speaker 11: Good at recruiting, but being a part of the Big
Twelve certainly changes that trajectory.
Speaker 2: That four affiliation health percent.
Speaker 10: So you're right, the talent gap is much smaller. I
think it comes down to x's and o's now and
who can execute.
Speaker 3: Quite frankly, that's interesting because I was like one of
the most intriguing battles from a coordinating standpoint, and who
you pick and Jason Beck the new OC former BUAU
quarterback versus j Hill the former Utah defensive back, or
or are you looking at you know you have Morgan
Scaley versus Aaron Roderick. There Morgan Scalley, former Utah defensive
back DC Aaron Roddick, former BUAU wide receiver OC.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yep, it's it's really between these two coordinators. I
can't I can't think of a better X's and o's matchup.
And I would love to be in the press box
next to those guys as their diagram and stuff and
picking apart each other's schemes.
Speaker 10: It would be fantastic.
Speaker 2: Well, give me your score prediction.
Speaker 3: I need a Utah fan and former football player to
give me the contrarian view here.
Speaker 11: Just because it's gonna be a defensive battle, I'm gonna
put it at twenty four to twenty one. Utah walks
away on a field goal just to make up for
last year.
Speaker 2: Brother, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: That would be That would be a tremendous. There has
many games in which this has been determined by a
field goal. I look at the Kenni Shiro missed kick.
I look at Burton coming off the edge in twenty
ten and blocking the field goal, at rice ecles Will
Farron hitting a field goal. How about twenty twelve, By
you're missing three consecutive field goals, they could have tied it.
Speaker 11: And who could forget the year was part of the
Utah program in nineteen ninety two. When you're gonnaon kicked
the field goal here on this field and we.
Speaker 10: Actually tore down your goal post.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, forget that.
Speaker 3: Wow kicking Yeah, just insane. Shout out to Scott Cottage,
former by former Utah fullback. Excuse me, he should have
been a BYU Cougar Hey. Shout out to the Hanniman
family showing up as well. Love the Hanniman family, the
legacy family of the Hanniman's here, oh, and the Nelson
family here as well. Shout out to Dave, Big Dave.
All right, we're gonna take a brief time out. Appreciate you, Scotti,
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