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your support. Last hour I went over a lot of

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the details of the East Wing demolition and plans for

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the construction of the new ballroom that has prompted outreach

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among people who hate Donald Trump, and so I won't

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go over all of those details, but highly recommend you

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get the podcast and go back and listen to that.

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We have some people who have called in want to

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weigh in on this, and you can as well. Again

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seven oh four five, seven zero eleven ten, I have

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text messages on the text line I will get to also.

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Let's start with Dennis. Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Hello Dennis, Yeah, Hi, Hey, thank you for taking my call.

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And I'll thought by saying I'm not the Trump painter,

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I'm whatever Republican. I'm off on this good stuff that

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he's doing. However, the one thing I don't understand is

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I realize it's being publicly funded, but you know, there's

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a long precedent for the government teaming up with private

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money and all that, but usually it's for infrastructure where

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they get something back. Now over here, I'm just concerned

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about undue sort of influence. You know, it's kind of

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like a lobby. You don't just give up two hundred

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and fifty and I know it's not a signal in

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to be your person. That's an awful lot of money

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being given to the government, and you'd think that, well,

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you probably can't write it off as a tax write off.

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I'm not sure, but I wouldn't think you could. And

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it's like, where are they getting back for it? Are

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they get in some type of favor or what have you?

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Just it just seems cleaner, neater. You have two undred

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fifty millions, a lot of money. But I don't think

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the United States folks would have really objected to it

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if it went I.

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Speaker 1: Don't even hang on, Dennis, you don't think you don't

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think people would have objected if you well.

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Speaker 2: They probably would but yes, billions and trillions of dollars

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are sent and given no over But.

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Speaker 1: Dennis, you can say that probably right, Yeah, like you

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you can say that because you say you don't hate him,

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so you could say that, you know, probably wouldn't matter

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to you, but for people who hate him, it would

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just be another another line of attack. And so by

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doing it at no cost to the taxpayers, then he

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takes that argument away, which then leaves him obviously open

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to the argument that you've expressed. And I've heard, you know,

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I've heard as well that like, who are these who's

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who's donating the money.

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Speaker 2: His friends that he's getting kicked back.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a whole bunch of out.

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Speaker 2: Himself up to that he wouldn't necessarily otherwise. And I

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realized it's sort of you go left to get kicked.

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You're right, you get kicked. So he probably chose what

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he considers to be, you know, the easier path or

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the yeah, and he's the general public.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's done that path with you know, not

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taking a salary, right, so he like there's a pr

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value to not having the taxpayers funded.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The the flip side, as you say, is that like

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people now want to know, well, who's donating the money,

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and there is a list. I've seen the list, and

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uh there are all these different you know, companies and

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leaders and so there's a bunch of them that are on.

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Speaker 2: The list, and why are they doing it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So, uh, well, I mean I don't know the

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I don't know every motivation of all of the people

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or companies involved, but I mean I can I can assume,

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like one would be one motivation would be staying Donald

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Trump's good graces, right, But also another motivation might be

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that you get you know, you get your name or

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your company's name listed. You know, they usually put.

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Speaker 2: A say you sell navy rights like the station. No.

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Speaker 1: No, but but look if you go you go to

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any public works project like Charlotte Mecklenberg City Hall. You

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go to Charlotte City Hall and there's a plaque there

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on the wall for and it has all of the

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elected uh city council members, county commissioners that were in

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office when the project was done. So they put their

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names on the wall. So I assume that the donors

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would have their names listed someplace, you know, on a

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donor wall, thanking them for uh for making it possible, right,

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in order to just help build this ballroom. Maybe they've

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attended the events at the White House and there is

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no ballroom and they have to go outside in the tents,

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and they're like, yeah, you know what, we should have

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a state ballroom. And they wanted it, they wanted to

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see it get done. And maybe there are others.

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Speaker 2: Phrase I think, yeah, I think you and I are

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on the same page. I'm just concerned that there's going

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to be because almost everything he's touched in his life,

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and maybe some of it had a little bit of

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but it just seems like he's really opened himself up

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for so many more questions and lawsuits and always are

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going to be grafted. And as his friend, as his

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cousin and his brother in law, is this that one,

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you know Kushner and he's a builder himself. Has he

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got his old guys in there, goombos and he's getting

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money back. But I'm glad he's getting it done. And

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I just want to, you know, sort of raise that

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with you, because I seriously doubt there's a tax right off.

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It's just another avenue of questions that no matter what

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he does, he's going to get kicked to ther fort.

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And he doesn't he doesn't care. Obviously he doesn't exactly.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say that bless him. Yeah,

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I was just going to say this guy, I mean,

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he's very nice. What is he like, seventy eight, seventy

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nine years old? Like, he does not care at this point.

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Right he's got his second term elected. He's he doesn't

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care if people are going to attack him. He's turned

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the business over to his son. He's running the Trump

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Enterprise now. So it's it's like he just wants to

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do this and look for a guy who has been

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a builder his whole life, I could see why this

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is he gets to kind of relive his old passion,

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his old glory, like he now he gets to be

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in charge of a building project right there at his house.

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And he loves it. I mean he said it yesterday.

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I think he was like, oh, I love the sound

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of the construction equipment, you know, going on in the background.

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And I think he does. I think he probably does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll just send a memo to Congress and say

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we're building this. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Well,

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thank you so much. I'm sure you got other calls.

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I appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's good here for you. Yeah, I have a

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great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I think there are different motivations for all the

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different donors. I don't know. Is it possible that you

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know there's a quid pro quo and corruption in all

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of this stuff. Yeah, that's possible. I don't know. I've

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not seen any evidence of it, but that's totally possible.

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I've said this since he came down the Golden escalator,

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which is, you don't do real estate in New York.

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You don't open a casino in Atlantic City and not

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have some connection to unsavory people, right, That's just the

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comes with the territory. So if you know that is

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the reality on the ground, right, then I'm sure you're

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going to be able to find some connections along the way. Now, well,

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we'll have to wait and see. See. I like this

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is my approach to Donald Trump because I would have

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gone crazy over the last decade if I were to

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not accept things as they are right, And that's why

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I think a lot of people suffer with TDS Trump

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derangement syndrome because they have this idea that reality is

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not real. Like again, if you are building a massive project,

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you are probably going to encounter certain elements in that

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world that may be a bit unsavory. Just throwing that

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out there. All right, Lee, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Lee, Hey, thanks Joing.

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Speaker 1: I need to turn my radio down, Yes you do,

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as is customary in the radio business.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, all right, hold only.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is counting towards This is counting towards

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your time.

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Speaker 3: Lee.

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Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know this is counting against your clock.

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Speaker 3: All right now, now, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can hear you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Yeah, I was calling. I've been listening to

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you for a long time. Actxlan from Ashville. Nah. Actually

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I'm driving between Charles Ashville quite a bit and I'll

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always listen to your program.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: I was calling to uh, you know, I agree with

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the fact that we need a ballroom state to those

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people instead of using tents outside. That that is great.

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And I know that the outside of this building is

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going to sthetically look like the White House. Are similar.

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The only thing I'm worried about is going to be

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you know, and I'm not going to tell you about

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my views on Trump, but I am worried that the

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inside of this thing is going to have a signature

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of mor Lago or Trumps signature. You know. You talked

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about the book that his son wrote that he loved

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beautiful thing. Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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I just don't want this thing to be gaudy. And

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when the next administration come, next president comes in, he's

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going to change it. That is my concern. And I

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want to thank you also for clear enough the fact

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that it's not taxpayer money, because I was I was

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having a hard time with that. Yeah. No, yeah, I

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hate Johnny those type things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Donald Trump's preferred esthetic is not mine. Okay. I

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am not a fan of the gold plated everything. Not

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a fan of it. He is, whether you know, whether

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he puts too much of it in there. I know

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people are complaining about all the gold that he put

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in the Oval office. Yeah, I mean, like, but that's

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like you said, it's in the eye of the beholder.

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That's what he thinks looks pretty. He thinks his beauty

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And yeah, another president comes in, they want to change it,

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want to redecorate it. They're going to be able to

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do that too, just like they just like they change

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the interior of the White House. They do that, right.

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So you know, we'll see. I mean, that's that's my

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approach to virtually all things Trump is we'll see you.

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Speaker 3: I agree that we need a place like that. Yeah,

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and so in that way. And it's not taxpayer money,

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because if it was taxpayer money, I would have a

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hard time with that with people not getting paid.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, no, I got you, Lee. I appreciate

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the call man, Thank you very much. I will get

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chicken too, and salmon, probably all sorts of fancy for

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thinking it's not just steak. Oh okay, that's probably a

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voice to text thing going on there. He probably means

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state dinners. So why does the White House need so

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many state dinners? Well, I mean that's kind of what

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leaders of state do. They host all sorts of the

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meetings with foreign leaders, especially Donald Trump. I mean, the

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guy definitely an extrovert, a bit of a party animal,

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if you will. But he doesn't drink, but like he

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likes to socialize, he does his You know, it's about

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personal relationships. Politics is about personal relationships. Okay, I've said

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this for years. And you're more likely to get stuff

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done when you know the person, even if they're across

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the political aisle. Right, if you know them, you can

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call them up, you can talk with them. You've got

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some sort of a relationship that goes beyond just the politics,

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especially partisan politics. Right. And so leaders of state do this,

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They welcome other leaders to the White House. They do

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it all the time. Right, So if you're going to

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do the big state dinner, then like, why not have

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it in the ballroom because it also you could use

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the ballroom for all sorts of other things. It doesn't

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have to just be a state dinner, right, you can

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have other gatherings when you like, say you want to

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host when you're doing the Purple Heart ceremonies and stuff, right,

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you're doing stuff like that, you're giving out awards, you're

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having you know, you're bringing like they had, you know,

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a bunch of the people who had been targeted by

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Antifa for example, and you know they stick them in

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some conference room. Well, now you'd be able to go

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into this larger space and you could do a larger

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gathering like that. So look, every hotel has a ballroom

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for a reason, right, I mean, yes, to rent it out,

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but people, you know, when organizations are looking to do

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stuff and you've got a large number of people coming,

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you need that kind of space. And so rather than

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pitching tents out on the lawn, a ballroom makes sense.

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And by the way, if you can also you know,

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refortify the underground bunker which is under there, and you

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can harden the building so if God forbid, there ever

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is some sort of attack, that it's protected in a

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better way and you can create more defensive installments on

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the roof and around the building and stuff like. Yeah. Again,

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like I don't see any real downside to this. The

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only thing, you know is that people were mad that

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oh this this building got torn down. And that's why

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I said last time. This is like every development debate

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that I've ever witnessed in local politics. Whenever somebody comes

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in for a rezoning or they want to do a project,

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you always get people that are like, you know, I

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don't want anything to change. I like that thing just

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the way it is. It's the same I see it

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at you know, the HOA level, city level, state level.

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It's the same stuff all the time. I mean people

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on our neighborhood Facebook page. In my neighborhood that was

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clear cut right, forests and stuff that were just just

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leveled in order to put all of these houses there.

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And all these people move in over the last fifteen years,

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and then there's another area of woods and another builder

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comes in and levels that to build, and the people

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in my neighborhood are angry that we've disturbed the environment

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and habitat for the deer. It's like, well, you did

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that too, right. This is why I called it. You know,

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this is nimbiism, not in my backyard. It's this idea

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I got my little slice of heaven. Now I'm going

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to pull the ladder up behind me. And that way

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of thinking is prevalent in all of these rezonings and

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all of these development projects that I've seen throughout the

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last twenty five years. I've said this before. I would

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watch city council meetings in Ashville, and about ninety eight

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percent of the time the public speakers against any development

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project would start off by saying something to the effect

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of I moved here eight years ago, and now I

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don't want you to do anything to change the way

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things are. I don't want you to allow for more

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building of housing. I don't want any new development. It's

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like you just got here. You came here and bought

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a house because other people built those houses before you arrived.

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You know. Let me see here. I did get an

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email from John I cannot believe that Donald Trump just

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bulldozed the East Wings. So much history is lost. That

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is where George Washington planned and wrote the Gettysburg Address.

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That very room is where Abe Lincoln told fireside bedroom

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stories to Teddy Roosevelt as a young child. Hundreds of

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years of history just wiped out. I believe that is

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also where the President learned that the Germans had just

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up here, just a couple of final messages and then

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I'm gonna pivot to the shutdown. Okay, so this is

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from Russ. We were talking in the first hour about,

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you know, building beautiful things, and Russ says, my mom

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has painted and done other art my whole life. She

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commented years ago that ugly or chaotic art was a

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sign that the artist was not connected to God. God

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is an artist, and if you have that gift but

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no connection with God, it shows in what you create.

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I see that point in all sorts of creative expression. Now, yeah,

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this is why I call it art by explanation that

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it doesn't actually have any kind of intrinsic beauty. The

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beauty is therefore not conveyed to the viewer, and therefore

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it needs some sort of a placard in front of

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the piece to tell you what the artist was trying

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to do. So an explanation of why this is worth

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your time and detention. And then once explained, oh wow,

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this heap of trash is supposed to symbolize whatever you know.

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I've i over the years, I have had a great

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deal of fun highlighting awful things that are paid for

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with taxpayer dollars that masquerade as art. I'm not going

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to go over all of them right now, although the

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classic one was at the Police Academy when they hired

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some quote unquote artist who made some chicken wire structure

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that was supposed to look like the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police

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Department shield, which is like representative of the hornet's nest,

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which dates back to the that's a callback to the

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Revolutionary War, you know, as a corn wallace came in

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and stirred up a hornet's nest, that whole thing, and

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it was so obviously not a piece of art that

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a janitor threw it away. He did not know it

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was art, Yeah, because it wasn't. So this is from Melissa.

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It's a Pete tweet. Everything should have beauty, whether it

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be functional or not. I watched my father spend twenty

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years of his life restoring an eighteen fifties Victorian home

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to its original glory. I grew up with the smell

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of a butane torch as he stripped baseboard after baseboard

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of years and of lead paint every evening after he

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came home from work. Recall the words of the patron

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and artist of the Sistine Chapel Pope Julius. The second,

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when will you make an end? Michelangelo said, when I

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am finished. Well, look Thomas Jefferson, right, he never completed Monticello.

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That guy was always doing improvements on his home, like

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it was in a constant state of construction all the time.

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M Yeah, the helliat says. The orange discs by the

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light rail. Yeah, like I said, I have done this.

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I have done this topic so many different times over

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the years. And the orange the big Claye discs along

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the light rail line is one of the examples that

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I cite. Pat McCrory called it corridors of crap. Anybody

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that brings up cost of the project will not want

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to talk about why it's that expensive in that town. Yeah, no,

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that's true. Don't forget about the interactive art piece in

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the Mecklinburg County Courthouse that broke shortly after it was made.

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But yeah, I have cited that one as well. It's

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all these little heads on strings dangling over the lobby,

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and it was supposed to like change. It was a

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neat idea. It just it broke immediately, and so they

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like when you're on the floor looking up at it,

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it looks like a face and then it just kind

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of it keeps changing and uh and yeah it broke. Yeah,

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DEI artists, it's rich. This I don't know who this

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is from seven oh four number. It's rich when libs

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are complaining about the loss of history in the White

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House renovations, when all the historical staff choose were removed

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from the country a couple of years ago. Yeah, that's

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why it's I don't believe that they are outraged at

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the loss of this historical office building. You know, let

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me see here to do on topic, people, pete everybody

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has short term memory loss forty four, So who would

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that be forty four? That would have been Obama spent

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over three hundred and sixty million dollars ripping up the

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front lawn and other White House changes taxpayer funded.

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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, presidents do this all the time. I think

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what they have a problem with is the fact that

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he's going to leave his mark on the White House

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for decades to come, and that's killing them. That's exactly right.

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That is from David And I'm trying to u this

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is seven oh four number. Has nothing to do with

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preservation of the building, per se, or the east wing

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per say, it's all about hey, hey Trump, I guess

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hating Trump. That's what That's what it is. They hate Trump.

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Anything he does, they hate him. The thing is being

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paid for by donors, that doesn't matter. They hate Trump. Okay, So,

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and John says here the caller that was worried about

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the reasons behind the private donations to the White House renovation.

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If you recall, back in the eighties, the Statue of

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Liberty was refurbished, and that was all done with private

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donations as well. Things like this happen all the time

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when it is something of national interest like that. Yeah. No,

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it's a good parallel, all right. If you're listening to

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this show, you know I try to keep up with

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all sorts of current events, and I know you do too.

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And you've probably heard me say get your news from

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multiple sources. Why. Well, because it's how you detect media bias,

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more transparent. Alrighty, So the Democrat strategy on the shutdown

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is pretty obvious at this point. And in case you

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were unaware, the number two Democrat in the House Catherine Clark,

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she is the Deputy whip. I believe she said in

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an interview the other day that there will be families

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that are going to suffer, but it's one of the

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few leverage times we have. And by the way, over

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in the Senate, the Democrats once again blocked a vote

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to open the government up, and in this case they

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blocked a vote I think yesterday to pay government workers

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that were affected by the shutdown, and Democrats blocked that

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it was just a straight up measure to pay employees,

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and Democrats rejected it, and this video clip went viral,

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and the Speaker of the House has been They rolled

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a TV out in front of the Speaker, Mike Johnson's office.

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There's a little hallway there and they rolled a TV

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screen out and they just put this clip on repeat.

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And so now that's what you see when you walk

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up to the to the Speaker's office. Because remember Democrats

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were going to the Speaker's office doing these are stunts,

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these viral videos they were trying to make like, you know,

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open a government up and all this. They don't want

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the government up, opened up unless they get this demand

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of theirs, which is to make permanent the temporary subsidies

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for the Affordable Care Act Obamacare. That's what this is about.

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The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that over the next

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ten years, the Democrat's permanent subsidy expansion would cost taxpayers

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three hundred and fifty billion dollars on top of the

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billions and permanent subsidies that's already on the books. David

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Winston wrote a piece at roll call dot com and

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he tracks. He documents the history in case you weren't

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aware of how this all played out with Obamacare. I

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remember this. I was covering this at the time. Okay,

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this is a crisis of democrats own making. Goes back

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fifteen years. Obamacare was rammed through on party line votes

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in twenty ten. Okay, in December of two thousand and nine,

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in the Senate, Democrats had a filibuster proof majority of

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sixty seats, so they had passage all but guaranteed. It

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passed on a strictly partisan vote without a single Republican

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on board, and it included a subsidy for low income users,

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but not the enhanced subsidies, so more subsidies today. Shortly

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after that, Republican Scott Brown won the Massachusetts special election,

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and Democrats now did not have their sixty votes, so

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they could not end the filibuster on a partisan vote,

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and that forced the House Democrats, a lot of whom

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had reservations about Obamacare's design. It forced the House Democrats

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to vote for the Senate bill as is. Additionally, the

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loss of the Senate seat in Massachusetts worried Democrats about

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whether or not Obamacare was going to cost them control

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of the Senate and the House. The healthcare bill went

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back to the House, which eventually passed the Senate version.

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All Republicans opposed it, along with thirty four Democrats. That's

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how that happened. Okay, the bipartisan vote was against Obamacare.

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The temporary enhanced premiums that are at issue today are

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the result of COVID nineteen and were added as part

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of the American Rescue Plan, which was proposed by Biden

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passed by Democrats in March twenty twenty one. Democrats had

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the White House, they had majorities in the Senate. In

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the House, but they did not have a filibuster proof Senate,

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so the American Rescue Plan was turned into a reconciliation

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bill so they could avoid the filibuster. Democrats included language

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that the enhanced premiums were supposed to be temporary. They

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would expire at the end of twenty twenty two, and

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then came twenty twenty two, and they didn't want them

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to buyer, so they did the Inflation Reduction Act. Part

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of that got spun off as a reconciliation bill so

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they could pass it on a party line vote. Didn't

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get any Republican votes in the Senate. This required you'll

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recall Kamala Harris to cast the tie breaking vote for passage,

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she being the Vice president at the time. The bill

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extended the temporary premiums the enhanced premiums through twenty twenty five.

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See so Democrats, when they were in control, they kept

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doing this. They kept creating increased subsidies, and they kept

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sunsetting them. They kept making them temporary. They could have

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made the credits permanent back then or extended them for

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ten years. Instead, they chose to extend them only three

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because there was others spending in the Inflation Reduction Act

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that Democrats prioritized over these premiums. Despite Senate majority leader

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John Thuns offered to discuss the enhanced subsidies issue as

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soon as government reopens, Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries have

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refused to budge on their demand for a permanent extension

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that would add three hundred and fifty billion dollars to

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the Continuing Resolution. And here is what Jeffries was asked

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on CNBCS.

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Speaker 4: It said, what you are asking the Republicans to do

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right now when they control the White House, the Senate,

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and the House is effectively what the Democrats could not

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do when they controlled all three of those heads of

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government themselves. The ten year setup for this, for these

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the three year setup for the expiration of these credits

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was intentionally put in. It was put in when you

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controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate. You

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couldn't get it passed for longer. And so this is

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a setup, the kind of your own creation that you

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all couldn't extend beyond that. Now you want the Republicans

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to do something you didn't do when you were in power.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's not a setup.

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Speaker 5: It is beyond what we could do. We extended the

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Affordable Care Act tax credits in twenty twenty two for

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three years.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: The program is working. It's providing healthcare to tens of

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millions of people in an affordable way.

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Speaker 1: Right. That's why everybody's complaining about the cost of its skyrocketing. Right,

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And then why the additional subsidies are now needed. Now,

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this was always an albatross. This was always sold to

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us as better and cheaper than it actually is. Democrats

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want Republicans to do the thing that Democrats could not

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do when they controlled more power than Republicans currently enjoy.

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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