1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Every one, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,799 this episode, we're going to pick up where we left 3 00:00:07,839 --> 00:00:12,679 off in chapter four of the OIG Report, detailing the 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,719 circumstances that led up to the death of Jeffrey Epstein. 5 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:21,640 So let's dive right back in. Also on July twenty three, 6 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:26,320 twenty nineteen, the staff psychologists conducted a suicide risk assessment 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,120 that included a clinical interview of Epstein and a review 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 of Epstein's medical record, the Psychology Data System, and a 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,880 review of the Century database. According to the staff psychologist's report, 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,640 Epstein denied knowing why you was placed on suicide watch. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,840 BOP record state that Epstein recalled getting a drink of 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,039 water the night prior to then went back to bed. 13 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:55,439 Epstein's next recollection was hearing himself snoring. The BOP assessment 14 00:00:55,479 --> 00:00:58,719 records reflect that Epstein wanted to know why you was 15 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:01,520 on suicide watch and why he was informed that he 16 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,680 had been found with a string on his neck. The 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,519 staff psychologist noted that it was unclear whether Epstein had 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,359 placed the string around his neck or if someone else did. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,239 Epstein denied current suicidal or self harmed thoughts, or ever 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,680 having these thoughts, denied a history of self harm and 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,400 suicide attempts, and denied feeling hopeless and fearing for his safety. 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,959 Epstein told the staff psychologists that he lived to enjoy 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,719 life and that his future plans included fighting his criminal 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,400 case and getting back to his normal life. The staff 25 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:39,359 psychologist noted that Epstein was to remain on suicide watch 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,760 for further observation. The staff psychologists told the OIG she 27 00:01:43,879 --> 00:01:47,719 had advised BOP staff that Epstein would need a cell mate. 28 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,760 The chief psychologist said she considered three possibilities to explain 29 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,159 the July twenty third incident. One Epstein and or inmate 30 00:01:57,239 --> 00:02:00,000 one were gaming the system to get something they want 31 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:04,280 wanted that they were not getting. Two Epstein, who really 32 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:09,039 was suicidal, had conducted a rehearsal. Or three Inmate one 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,639 had assault at Epstein. The chief psychologist told the OIG 34 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,759 that after Epstein told her he wanted to be housed 35 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,840 with the same cell mate he originally set assaulted him, 36 00:02:19,199 --> 00:02:22,159 she began to think the third possibility, assault by in 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,960 May one, was less plausible than the other two possibilities, 38 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,879 although she did not know for certain. The following day, 39 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,319 July twenty fourth medical staff examined Epstein at approximately one 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,199 o eight pm and observed that the central part of 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,479 the red mark on Epstein's neck had some abrasion. Epstein 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,960 told the medical staff that he still did not want 43 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,360 to talk about how he sustained the injuries, but he 44 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,280 believed that his cell mate had something to do with it. 45 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,719 BOP's SIS opened an investigation into the incident, but was 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,520 unable to determine whether Epstein had harmed himself or had 47 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,960 been assaulted. On July twenty fourth, twenty nineteen, after thirty 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,000 one hours and five minutes, Epstein was removed from suicide watch. 49 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:11,479 Epstein remained in the same cell he was in under 50 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,319 suicide watch and was under psychological observation until July thirtieth, 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:21,639 twenty nineteen. Also on July twenty fourth, twenty nineteen, Forensic 52 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,879 Psychologists IO completed a post suicide watch report. According to 53 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,199 Forensic Psychologists two's report, Epstein continued to claim a lack 54 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,080 of memory regarding how he sustained the scar around his neck. 55 00:03:35,719 --> 00:03:40,639 The Boper report further stated that Epstein adamantly denied suicidal ideation, 56 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,080 intensions and plans. That Epstein identified reasons to live and 57 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,360 was future oriented, and that Epstein was assessed for a 58 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:53,039 willingness to engage in treatment. The BOPER report reflected that 59 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,439 forensic psychologists IO inquired further if Epstein would recall the 60 00:03:57,439 --> 00:04:00,919 previous day's incident, and Epstein stated that he had been 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,800 trying to remember. Forensic psychologists too asked Epstein why he 62 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,199 told another inmate that Epstein's cellmate had tried to kill him, 63 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,560 but was now claiming he has no memory of the incident. 64 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,439 Epstein told the forensic psychologists too that he did not 65 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,199 recall himself or his cellmate tying a string of rope 66 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,360 around his neck. Following forensic Psychologists two's examination of Epstein, 67 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,439 she determined that he should be removed from suicide Watch. 68 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:33,839 Forensic Psychologists Too told the FBI that she discussed the 69 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:38,720 decision to step Epstein down to psychological observation from suicide 70 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:43,040 Watch with the chief psychologist and Associate Warden two, who 71 00:04:43,079 --> 00:04:47,560 both concurred with her determination. Epstein was therefore taken off 72 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,079 suicide Watch and placed on psychological observation, during which time 73 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,439 BOP records reflect that he was continuously observed by inmate 74 00:04:56,519 --> 00:05:02,560 companions and seen daily by psychology department staff. Forensic psychologists 75 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,319 too annotated in the post suicide watch report that the 76 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:09,600 reason for removing Epstein from suicide Watch was due to 77 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:13,439 Epstein's stating he had no interest in killing himself. He 78 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:16,800 had described having a wonderful life, and Epstein had said 79 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,839 it would be crazy to take his own life and 80 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:22,600 he would not do that to himself. Forensic psychologists too 81 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,319 told the FBI that, following her clinical visit with Epstein 82 00:05:26,519 --> 00:05:30,319 on July twenty fourth, twenty nineteen, she was cautious with 83 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:33,560 Epstein's case and his self reporting of what had occurred 84 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,600 the previous day. Forensic psychologists too stated that she observed 85 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:44,199 signs of positivity and Epstein adamantly denied suicide. Nevertheless, she 86 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,199 was not comfortable taking Epstein off suicide Watch and instead 87 00:05:48,519 --> 00:05:52,399 opted to place Epstein on psychological Observation, which was a 88 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:57,439 step down from suicide Watch. Forensic psychologists too told the 89 00:05:57,519 --> 00:06:00,920 FBI that I made the decision with the consent of 90 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,759 the chief psychologist and Associate Warden iiO, with whom she 91 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,519 had consulted. Forensic psychologists too told the FBI that placing 92 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:14,399 Epstein on psychological observation allowed him to possess hygiene products, 93 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,160 two novels, attend legal visits, and take showers. It also 94 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:22,879 allowed him to have standard inmate clothing, a FlexPen, a 95 00:06:22,959 --> 00:06:28,600 toothbrush and toothpaste, soap, and deodorant. However, Forensic Psychologists Too 96 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,279 explained that it was not healthy for inmates to stay 97 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,600 on suicide watch for extended periods of time, and they 98 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:38,800 are reevaluated on a day to day basis. According to 99 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:43,240 Forensic Psychologists two's post suicide watch report, Epstein expressed a 100 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,279 feeling of safety being housed in the psychological observation area 101 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,920 rather than the shoe and asked if there was a 102 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:54,120 safer unit for him to be housed. Forensic Psychologists Too 103 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,160 informed Epstein that he would remain on psychological observation for 104 00:06:58,199 --> 00:07:01,480 the near future, but his long term housing would need 105 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,560 to be revisited because it is not ideal to remain 106 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,279 in psychological observation for extended periods of time. The BOP 107 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,360 report states that Epstein was again educated on routine and 108 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:20,160 emergency procedures for contacting psychology Department staff. According to BOP records, 109 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,240 between July twenty fifth and July twenty ninth of twenty nineteen, 110 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:28,399 Epstein was seen daily by the chief Psychologist or the 111 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:32,839 staff psychologist while he was on psychological observation. On each 112 00:07:32,879 --> 00:07:37,560 of these dates, according to BOP reports, Epstein adamantly denied 113 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,160 being suicidal and denied having any memory of what occurred 114 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:45,199 on July twenty third, twenty nineteen, which resulted in him 115 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,120 being placed on suicide watch. Additionally, on each date, Epstein 116 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:54,839 was provided with supportive end coping skills interventions to which 117 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:59,560 he was receptive. BOP record state that Epstein expressed concerns 118 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,560 about being housed again in the Shoe because he felt 119 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,720 it was dangerous, he cannot sleep well due to the 120 00:08:05,759 --> 00:08:08,519 noise from other inmates, and it was difficult for him 121 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,480 to work on his legal case. The chief psychologists told 122 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,480 the FBI and the OIG that she met with Epstein 123 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,160 on July twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, and he was in 124 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:23,040 good spirits. She said that during his clinical visit, Epstein 125 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,600 said he was baffled over the July twenty third, twenty 126 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,759 nineteen incident and asked the chief psychologists to give him 127 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,840 some cues to help him remember. The chief psychologist told 128 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:38,639 the OIG that she kept Epstein on psychological observation because 129 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:42,840 he had not answered her questions regarding the possible suicide attempt. 130 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,879 The chief psychologists told the OIG that she coordinated with 131 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,519 the BOP's National suicide Prevention Coordinator, who recommended that Epstein 132 00:08:52,759 --> 00:08:55,879 be housed with the sex offender in the shoe. The 133 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,240 chief psychologist notified Associate Warden iiO of this recoond via email. 134 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:06,440 BOPU records further reflect that during his clinical visit on 135 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,879 July twenty eighth, twenty nineteen, Epstein told the staff psychologist 136 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,919 that he was agitated for hours the previous night because 137 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,799 of a NonStop toilet flushing and that the noise was 138 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,039 similar to when he was housed in the Shoe. The 139 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,559 staff psychologist informed Epstein that he would be moving to 140 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:29,600 a different cell on July twenty ninth, twenty nineteen. According 141 00:09:29,639 --> 00:09:34,360 to BOPU records, Epstein reported the chief psychologist that his 142 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,879 memory of the July twenty third, twenty nineteen incident may 143 00:09:38,919 --> 00:09:42,200 be impaired because of his sleep apnea. On this date, 144 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:47,080 Epstein was to receive his personally owned medical device. BOPR 145 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,320 records state that Epstein was aware he would be returning 146 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,360 to the shoe, but reported that he did not feel 147 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,679 well due to lack of sleep and other medical concerns. 148 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Epstein asked to stay on psychological observation where he felt 149 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:03,679 safe for one more night to get some sleep, and 150 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:06,919 then return to the shoe with the cellmate the following day. 151 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,720 According to BPU records, the chief psychologist informed Epstein that 152 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:14,320 he could stay one more night and explain that there 153 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,559 were no mental health issues precluding him from returning to 154 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,720 the shoe. The following day, the chief psychologists explained to 155 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:24,440 Epstein that he would be placed in a safe situation 156 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:29,799 in the shoe. Epstein was again provided supportive interventions and 157 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:35,159 psycho education regarding additional coping strategies. BOPU records state that 158 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,759 Epstein was somewhat receptive, but more concerned with getting phone calls, 159 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:45,840 recreation and housing placement concerns. On July thirtieth, twenty nineteen, 160 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,200 according to BPU records, Epstein reported to the staff psychologist 161 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,759 that he had not slept well, and Epstein discussed how 162 00:10:53,799 --> 00:10:56,320 he did not think he would be able to sleep 163 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,600 well in the shoe because of the noise. The staff 164 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,759 psychologist annotated in the clinical contact summary that documentation revealed 165 00:11:04,759 --> 00:11:07,679 Epstein had eaten and taken a shower of the day 166 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,279 prior July twenty ninth, and had also eaten breakfast on 167 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:16,039 July thirtieth. The staff psychologist annotated Epstein did not display 168 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,919 indications of a disturbed thought process or content and denied 169 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,679 current suicidal or self harm ideation. BOP records further stated 170 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:30,200 that Epstein agreed to immediately report the staff if he 171 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:33,960 began to have suicidal or self harmed thoughts, and that 172 00:11:34,039 --> 00:11:37,080 Epstein was future oriented and did not appear to be 173 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:41,279 a danger to himself. The staff psychologist noted in her 174 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,759 clinical contact report that she had consulted with the chief 175 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:49,720 psychologist and that the psychological observation of Epstein would be discontinued. 176 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,440 According to her clinical contact report, the staff psychologists educated 177 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,960 Epstein about routine and emergency procedures for contacting Psychology Department State, 178 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,440 and noted that Epstein would be seen the following day 179 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:08,240 to monitor his mental health and provide further intervention if needed. 180 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,080 The staff psychologists also noted in her report that the 181 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,360 Shoe Lieutenant was informed that Epstein needed to be housed 182 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:20,639 with an appropriate cell mate. Also on July thirtieth, twenty nineteen, 183 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,000 staff psychologists completed an evaluation of competency related to Epstein 184 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,559 being able to proceed with a disciplinary process. Epstein had 185 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,919 been charged by BOP with a prohibited act, specifically tattooing 186 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,279 or self mutilation, for the incident that occurred on July 187 00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:43,279 twenty three, twenty nineteen. In conducting the evaluation of competency, 188 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,679 the staff psychologists reviewed the suicide risk assessment completed by 189 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,039 the chief psychologist on July ninth, twenty nineteen, in which 190 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:55,519 Epstein had denied a history of mental health treatment and 191 00:12:55,639 --> 00:13:01,240 having any past or present suicidal ideation, intention, or The 192 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:05,559 staff psychologists also reviewed the suicide risk assessment that she 193 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:10,639 herself completed dated July twenty three, twenty nineteen, which stated 194 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,440 that it was unclear at the time if Epstein had 195 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,720 placed the string around his neck or if it was 196 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:20,159 done by someone else. According to the staff psychologist's notes 197 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:25,159 from her competency evaluation on July thirtieth, the determination of 198 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,320 an inmates competency to proceed with the disciplinary process was 199 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,679 based on a clinical assessment of the inmates ability to 200 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,120 understand the nature of the proceedings and his or her 201 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,039 ability to assist in his or her own defense. After 202 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,600 a review of available psychological and psychiatric records and information 203 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,759 related to the offense, the staff psychologists found that Epstein 204 00:13:49,159 --> 00:13:53,799 was competent to proceed with the disciplinary process. That same day, 205 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:58,679 July thirtieth, Epstein was removed from psychological observation and transferred 206 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,759 back to the shoe, consistent with what he had been 207 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,600 told by the chief psychologist that prior day. On July 208 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,960 thirty first, twenty nineteen, according to BP records, Forensic Psychologists 209 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,679 three conducted a clinical visit with Epstein and noted that 210 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,919 he was in a pleasant mood, generally slept well, and 211 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,120 was getting readjusted to being in the shoe. Epstein told 212 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:25,759 Forensic Psychologists three that he was getting along with the cellmate. 213 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,799 According to her report, Epstein explicitly denied recent and current 214 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:36,240 suicidal ideation or intent and denied having thoughts of harming others. 215 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,759 Epstein also agreed to contact staff immediately if he experienced 216 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:46,960 any suicidal thoughts or psychological distress. Forensic Psychologists three's report 217 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,559 further stated that Epstein was receptive to her utilization of 218 00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:56,120 cognitive behavioral therapeutic techniques. She wrote that there did not 219 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,039 appear to be a need for follow up at the time, 220 00:14:59,279 --> 00:15:02,279 and Epstein expressed a willingness to self refer to a 221 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,759 psychology department staff if needed. According to the report, Epstein 222 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,039 would continue to be seen during routine shoe rounds and 223 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,679 shoe reviews. On August first, twenty nineteen, according to BP records, 224 00:15:16,879 --> 00:15:21,559 BOP receiving and discharge staff, who were responsible for processing 225 00:15:21,559 --> 00:15:25,399 inmates who enter or leave the facility, notified the staff 226 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,039 psychologist that the previous day, when the US Martiall Service 227 00:15:29,399 --> 00:15:32,799 had brought Epstein back to the mcc New York from court, 228 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:36,159 they had provided a form on which it was noted 229 00:15:36,159 --> 00:15:41,840 that Epstein had suicidal tendencies. The OIG reviewed the USMS 230 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:46,320 Prisoner Schedule Report for July thirty one, twenty nineteen, as 231 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,679 well as the USMS Prisoner Custody Alert, noticed that had 232 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:56,039 annotated in the remarks that Epstein had mental concerns suicidal tendencies. 233 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:00,679 The chief psychologists told the OIG that the USM annotate 234 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:05,399 suicidal tendencies for many inmates if the USMS was aware 235 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:10,600 the inmate was previously on suicide watch. Therefore, the chief 236 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:15,159 psychologist said the annotation was not abnormal since Epstein had 237 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,240 just come off suicide watch, and Epstein may have told 238 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,679 the USMS that he had been on suicide watch. Following 239 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,399 the receipt of this information from the receiving and discharged staff, 240 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:30,519 the staff psychologists conducted as suicide risk assessment on August 241 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:34,559 first that included a review of Epstein's previous clinical encounters, 242 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:39,840 medical records, and data in the psychology department and century systems. 243 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:44,480 According to the staff psychologist's assessment, Epstein denied stating he 244 00:16:44,519 --> 00:16:48,440 was suicidal and was surprised that the form noted that 245 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:52,960 he had suicidal tendencies. The staff psychologists said that Epstein 246 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 told her that the incident report he received for the 247 00:16:56,039 --> 00:16:59,159 marks on his neck arising from the July twenty third 248 00:16:59,159 --> 00:17:03,120 event had been expunged. The OIG confirmed that the incident 249 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,799 report was expunged. Epstein also said his cellmate talked at 250 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,240 night and kept Epstein awake, but that Epstein wanted to 251 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:14,400 give it three or four more days before determining if 252 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,440 he wanted another cell mate. The state psychologists concluded in 253 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:20,880 a report that Epstein did not appear to be a 254 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,119 danger to himself and denied current suicidal or self harm 255 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,359 ideation and agreed to immediately inform staff if he had 256 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,000 any of these thoughts. Epstein told her that he had 257 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,119 social supports in the community and that he had reasons 258 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,400 to live and a positive future plan. The staff psychologist 259 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:45,960 noted that Epstein was currently psychologically stable and that suicide 260 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,960 watch was not indicated at the time. The staff psychologists 261 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,440 concluded that Epstein's overall acute suicide risk was low and 262 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,759 the overall chronic suicide risk was absent. Epstein was again 263 00:17:59,079 --> 00:18:04,640 provided supportive and educative interventions and educated about routine and 264 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,920 emergency procedures for contacting psychology department staff. The staff psychologist's 265 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,279 report noted that Epstein would continue to be seen during 266 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,880 routine shoe rounds and shoe reviews, and that he would 267 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,599 be seen by psychology Department staff the following week to 268 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:26,400 monitor his mental health status and provide further intervention if needed. 269 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:30,960 On August eighth of twenty nineteen, the chief psychologists conducted 270 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,359 a clinical follow up session with Epstein. According to a report, 271 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,559 Epstein described as sleep as fair and requested that he 272 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,519 be placed in general population. The report further stated that 273 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:48,680 Epstein denied feelings of depression, anxiety, and any suicidal ideation, intention, 274 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:53,400 or plan. Epstein told the chief psychologist that he received 275 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,000 the necessary documentation to make phone calls and asked if 276 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,480 his previous phone calls over the speaker phone counted as 277 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:04,359 is monthly phone contact. The chief psychologists stated in her 278 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,920 report that Epstein had no mental health concerns and did 279 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,279 not appear to be in any distress. The chief psychologist 280 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:16,599 wrote that shoe staff had not reported any unusual behaviors 281 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,279 related to Epstein. She provided Epstein with supportive interventions and 282 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:26,960 psycho education regarding additional coping strategies, to which Epstein was receptive. 283 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Epstein was educated on routine and emergency procedures for contacting 284 00:19:32,039 --> 00:19:36,799 psychology department staff, and also reminded of self help books 285 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:40,119 and audio tapes that are available to them. The chief 286 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,440 psychologists wrote that Epstein would be seen in weekly shoe 287 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:47,960 rounds and monthly for shoe reviews. The chief psychologists told 288 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,880 the OIG that the fact that Epstein underwent three suicide 289 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,880 risk assessments was unusual. All right, So that concludes chapter four. 290 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,359 In the next episode, we're going to start exploring five. 291 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,440 The events of August eight through tenth, twenty nineteen, and 292 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,400 Epstein's death. All of the information that goes with this 293 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,480 episode can be found in the description box twels What's 294 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:17,880 up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In 295 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,519 this episode, we're gonna pick back up with the OIG Report, 296 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,240 discussing the circumstances that led to the death of Jeffrey Epstein. 297 00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:31,200 In our last episode, we wrapped up chapter four, so 298 00:20:32,039 --> 00:20:36,279 now we're diving into chapter five, and just like chapter four, 299 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,160 we're going to break it down into several parts, all right, 300 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,880 So let's get to it. Chapter five. The events of 301 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,920 August eighth through the tenth, twenty nineteen, and Epstein's death. 302 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,240 Part one. Epstein signs a new last will and testament 303 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,599 on August eighth. In the weeks following Epstein's death, multiple 304 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,240 media outlets reported that Epstein signed a new last will 305 00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:07,119 and testament on August eighth of twenty nineteen. At least 306 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,200 one media organization published a copy of the notarized document, 307 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:14,000 showing that it was signed by Epstein and two of 308 00:21:14,039 --> 00:21:19,279 his attorneys and notarized on August eighth, twenty nineteen. Attorney 309 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:22,920 visitor logs from the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, 310 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,160 New York confirmed that those attorneys and the notary public 311 00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:31,400 visited Epstein on that date. The Office of the Inspector 312 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,519 General OIG confirmed via court records that the August eighth, 313 00:21:35,599 --> 00:21:40,359 twenty nineteen will and other probate related documents were filed 314 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,400 in the Superior Court of the Virgin Islands on August fifteenth, 315 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,440 twenty nineteen. Among those court filings was an affid David 316 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,079 from another attorney who stated that she received the August eighth, 317 00:21:53,279 --> 00:21:58,119 twenty nineteen will from Epstein. The OIG confirmed via attorney 318 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,400 visitor logs that this attorneyer also visited Epstein at the 319 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:07,480 MCC New York on August eighth of twenty nineteen. The 320 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:12,279 OIG's investigation and review revealed that mcc new York personnel 321 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,559 were unaware that Epstein had changed his will two days 322 00:22:16,599 --> 00:22:20,640 before he died. The chief psychologist said she had heard 323 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,799 that Epstein had changed his will from the media reporting 324 00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:28,279 following his death. The chief psychologist did not know if 325 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:31,599 the media reporting was accurate, but she thought that if 326 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:34,240 it was true, it would have been useful information to 327 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,400 know because it would have been a red flag. The 328 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,519 staff psychologist and the chief psychologist told the OIG that 329 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:46,000 if Epstein's attorneys had notified them or the psychology Department 330 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,359 that Epstein had changed his will, such information would have 331 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,200 been a factor warranting a review of Epstein's mental state, 332 00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:57,559 and Epstein probably would have been placed back on suicide 333 00:22:57,599 --> 00:23:02,720 watch or some type of observation. Part two court order 334 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:08,160 on August ninth, releasing Epstein related documents and pending civil litigation. 335 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,599 On August ninth, twenty nineteen, the US Court of Appeals 336 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,799 for the Second Circuit Court ordered the unsealing of the 337 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:20,920 summary judgment filings from a defamation lawsuit filed by Virginia Roberts, 338 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,799 a woman who alleged that Epstein had victimized her when 339 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,160 she was a teenager against Glenn Maxwell. As a result 340 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,880 of the court's order that same day, approximately two thousand 341 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,559 pages of documents were released into the public domain, which 342 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:41,839 contained considerable derogatory information about Epstein, and some may have 343 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,319 related to the criminal charges pending against them. Additional high 344 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,200 profile public figures were also named in the release documents. 345 00:23:50,839 --> 00:23:55,480 There was significant media coverage of information contained within the 346 00:23:55,599 --> 00:24:00,759 unsealed court filings. Part three Transfer of Eppsie Dean's cellmate. 347 00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:04,920 On August ninth to another institution and failure to replace 348 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,400 them with another inmate part a notice on August eighth, 349 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,119 the impending transfer of Epstein's cellmate on August ninth, as 350 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,519 noted above, since July thirtieth, consistent with the Psychology Department's 351 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:22,440 determination that Epstein needed to have a cell mate, Epstein 352 00:24:22,519 --> 00:24:25,640 had been housed with inmate number three, whom the warden 353 00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:29,519 and the Federal Bureau of Prisons Executive leadership had selected 354 00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:33,559 as an appropriate cell mate. At ten thirty am on 355 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,920 August eighth, twenty nineteen, the US Marshall Service sent an 356 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,839 email to mcc New York personnel assigned to receiving and 357 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,039 discharge the area within the Correctional Services Department that is 358 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,720 responsible for processing inmates who enter or leave the facility, 359 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,799 with the subject transfer of prisoners from NYM MCC new 360 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,759 York to GEO. The body of the email identified in 361 00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:02,839 May three as one of the prisoners to be transferred, 362 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,799 and further stated, please schedule the transfer for Friday, eight nine, 363 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,880 nineteen at three thirty six pm. On the same day, 364 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,759 the USMS sent a second email to a number of 365 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,559 mcc New York personnel, including Associate Warden number two, the Captain, 366 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,400 the Shoe Lieutenant, the day Watch Operations Lieutenant, the day 367 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,200 Watch Activities Lieutenant, the Evening Watch Operations Lieutenant, another lieutenant, 368 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,319 and the Special Investigative Services Lieutenant with the subject Prisoner 369 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Production eight nine, twenty nineteen. This email contained two attachments, 370 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,000 one of which was the Prisoner Scheduled Report for MCC 371 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,400 new York for August ninth, twenty nineteen. The first page 372 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,680 of this attachment reflects that inmate number three was scheduled 373 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,279 to be transferred from MCC new York to GOO Queen's 374 00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:59,319 Detention facility on August ninth, twenty nineteen. This attachment also 375 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,880 includes the acronym WAB within the destination description portion of 376 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,440 the document, which mcc new York personnel told the OIG 377 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,160 means with all belongings. During their OIG interviews, MCC new 378 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,000 York staff members further explained that the WAB rotation meant 379 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,240 that in May three was being permanently removed from mcc 380 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,440 new York on August ninth, twenty nineteen. Notwithstanding this email, 381 00:26:29,599 --> 00:26:33,839 as detailed below, several of the email recipients identified above, 382 00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:38,160 including the Captain, the day Watch Operations Lieutenant, and the 383 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,160 day Watch Activities lieutenant told the OIG that they believed 384 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,119 in May three had gone to court on August ninth, 385 00:26:45,319 --> 00:26:48,599 and they did not know he'd been transferred to another facility. 386 00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:54,400 Part b MCC New York staff rejected Epstein's attorney request 387 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,880 that Epstein be housed without a cellmate. Forensic psychologist Won 388 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:04,480 told the OIG that on August ninth, twenty nineteen, she 389 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,319 was present during a meeting in which one of Epstein's 390 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:12,200 attorneys opposed Epstein having a cell mate. Forensic Psychologist one 391 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:15,359 explained to the attorney that because Epstein was housed in 392 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,440 the shoe and he was a sex offender, he needed 393 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:23,240 to have a cell mate. Additionally, the OIG investigation revealed 394 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,640 that on the day of Epstein's death, a supervisory staff 395 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,000 attorney with the BOP's Consolidated Legal Center for New York 396 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,279 sent an email to the warden to inform him that 397 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,039 on the previous day, August ninth, twenty nineteen, two of 398 00:27:38,079 --> 00:27:42,279 Epstein's attorneys separately contacted him. One of the attorneys asked 399 00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:45,079 for Epstein to be moved to a different specific housing 400 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,400 unit within MCC New York. The other attorney asked for 401 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,319 Epstein to be housed without a cell mate in the shoe. 402 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,039 The supervisory staff attorney said he informed the first attorney 403 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:01,079 that the suggested housing unit was not available for pretrial 404 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,240 detainees such as Epstein, and he said he told the 405 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:08,200 second attorney that Epstein could not be housed without a 406 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,920 cell mate because of his prior suicide attempt. Part C 407 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,559 removal on August ninth of Epstein's cellmate from MCC New York. 408 00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:23,160 According to mcc new York reports including the Daily Log 409 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,359 and the Lieutenant's Log, on August nine, twenty nineteen, at 410 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,079 approximately eight thirty eight, a m Epstein's cellmate in May 411 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,359 three was pre removed and transferred out of MCC New 412 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,599 York in a routine pre arranged transfer. The Daily Log 413 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,559 tracks inmate movements throughout the MCC New York each day, 414 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,759 while MCC new York lieutenants utilized the Lieutenant's Log to 415 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,720 document the daily activities that took place within the institution 416 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:59,079 during their respective shifts. The Supervisory Correctional System Specialist was 417 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,480 the supervisor of Receiving and Discharge on August ninth, twenty nineteen, 418 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,119 and was responsible for overseeing all inmate movements in and 419 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:13,880 out of the institution that day. The Supervisory Correctional System 420 00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:18,119 specialist verified that Receiving and Discharge would have used the 421 00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:23,400 USMS emails sent on August eighth, twenty nineteen, to coordinate 422 00:29:23,519 --> 00:29:26,960 in May three's transfer out of mcc New York, and 423 00:29:27,079 --> 00:29:30,839 since in May three was listed as wab on the 424 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,880 USMS emails, that meant he was being transferred from the 425 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,960 facility and not coming back. She explained to the OIG 426 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,119 that if in May three had been going to court, 427 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,839 as many pre trial inmates held at mcc New York 428 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,319 often did, the daily log would have reflected court rather 429 00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:53,039 than pre remove. Since the daily log listed in May 430 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:57,200 three as pre remove, the Receiving and Discharge personnel who 431 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,759 entered the information into the report were made aware that 432 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,480 in May three was being transferred from mcc New York 433 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:09,319 honor before the morning of August ninth, twenty nineteen, i'd 434 00:30:09,319 --> 00:30:14,400 ce website for details. The Supervisory Correctional System specialist told 435 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,200 the OIG that the language in the USMS email Wabie 436 00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,119 with all belongings and the MCC New York reports pre 437 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,559 removed made it clear that in May three would not 438 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:31,359 be returning to the Shoe or MCC New York. The 439 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,799 OIG also interviewed the Correctional Systems officer, who was the 440 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,319 receiving and discharge officer who handled inmate movements in and 441 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:45,519 out of MCC New York on August ninth, twenty nineteen. 442 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,000 The Correctional Systems officer confirmed that the daily log reflected 443 00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:53,480 that in May three was pre removed on August ninth, 444 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:57,000 twenty nineteen, at eight thirty eight am because he was 445 00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,680 being officially moved from the institution to an other prison. 446 00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,160 She explained to the OIG that the ordinary process was 447 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,960 that receiving in discharge personnel would enter the information regarding 448 00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:14,640 Inmate three into century along with information pertaining to other 449 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,039 inmates who would be leaving their MCC New York housing units. 450 00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:23,599 Receiving in discharge use this information to create the daily 451 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,759 call out list, which had all the inmates' names and 452 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,759 times that they were being moved. The Correctional Systems officer 453 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:34,599 told the OIG that the call out list from August ninth, 454 00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:38,359 twenty nineteen was no longer available because the call out 455 00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,240 lists were printed and hand delivered to the housing units 456 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:44,240 each day and then discarded by the units at the 457 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,519 end of the day. She also said each day's call 458 00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:51,920 out list was only maintained electronically for a twenty four 459 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,599 hour period and then it was updated overwritten with the 460 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,599 next day's list. In our OIG interview, the correctional Systems 461 00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:03,960 officer explained what would have occurred on this date based 462 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,599 on her experience. Receiving and discharge personnel would have printed 463 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,160 copies of the call out list for August ninth, twenty nineteen, 464 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:16,759 which mcc New York Internal Officer would distribute to the 465 00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:20,440 various housing units within the facility. Based on the other 466 00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:25,039 records reflecting in May Three's transfer, the correctional systems officer 467 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,440 said the call out list created for August ninth, twenty 468 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,680 nineteen would have listed wab next to in May Three's name, 469 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,599 which meant that he was departing from the institution and 470 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,960 not returning. Correctional Officer Number one told the OIG that 471 00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:45,440 on the morning of August ninth, twenty nineteen, he and 472 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,480 daywatch Shoe Officer in charge escorted in May three to 473 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,359 receiving and discharge and Epstein to his legal visit. All right, folks, 474 00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:56,480 we're going to wrap up there and then in the 475 00:32:56,519 --> 00:32:59,359 next episode, we're going to pick up with Part D 476 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,839 of Chapter five. All of the information that goes with 477 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880 the episode can be found in the description box.