Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Hey zero. Oh okay, now we have
ten people in the chair. Good morning sports cards fans,
and welcome back to hobby Hotline. My name is Dan
from four Collectors and from this channel right here, and
I am very very happy to welcome my good friend
in yours, Orlando. How are you, sir? This morning?
Speaker 2: Doing fantastic this morning? Went out on a quick walk
and a little mini little light stream right before the show.
Speaker 1: Oh I missed it. I'm sorry. I was doing my prap,
my show prap.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Well it was hard enough, which generally a shower.
Speaker 2: It was hard for me to reco from last night
from because I'm Cardinals show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I stayed a little late and then I'd say
after the show was over backstage we chatted for like
an hour, it was, and it was a lot of
guys like Bobby Burrell and uh and Scott and Mike
Ham was there for a while. Eric quickly left because
you know, it was his birthday, so you know, happy
birthday to Eric. So all right, we got twenty in
the chat. Let me say hello to everybody. Hurry. Oh okay,
ten minutes. Well we were, we were on time. It
was a little it was a little dicey there. Yeah,
get the popcorn all right. So here's the link.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: This is for call in if somebody wants to call
in uh and talk about one of our two topics
or any other topic. Honestly, Orlando and I are ready
to talk. Good morning to Mad City Brew. I just
thank you for the video. Like Eric does not pay
for likes on this channel. Only on Carlos's channel, Philly Joe,
Good morning, How is Philly? I was in Philly last weekend?
So random exports? Hello, this is fun? Yes, hopefully it
will be fun today. Laura, Good morning to you. Baseball
card curmudgeon. Hello, Frank Costella. You think I got that ring?
Sounds pretty good? Who's hobby hangout? Good morning, sir. Confluence
Sports Cards otherwise known as Ruben Snyder. Hello Ruben? How
are you? Dan and Orlando? That's who we are, Mike,
Jay Hawker, Hope you're okay. I know you were in
New You and Carlos's Chadbury late last night. Also able
in Vegas. Peter B. Hello, sir, we got ron fig
we got Adam's card closet. Chris C. Sven Yankee yankee
yank me card. Steve okay, I thought it was a
Yankee thing. I don't know if there's going to be
any Benny Koff. Maybe I'll show Benny Coff card later
on if we're we're running out of time. Zach Pierce, Hello,
Phil nicro Fan Hello, and Frank said hi already. So
let me let me share the referral link here. Oh
that's a referral link. Let me let me share again
the call in link.
Speaker 2: See here, and just getting warmed up today.
Speaker 1: There is the call in link. So we have two
topics we wanted to cover this morning, and I wanted
to say good morning to Couter Lev and also to
the sports card shop. Cuter Lev is a Philly guy,
I believe, right, tell me if you're a Philly guy,
and if you if you were at the Philly show,
because we're going to cover we're going to talk a
little bit about card shows. I know, Orlando, you've been
going to your local card shows, and I have experienced
in recent times that card shows are kind of insane
in terms of crowds, And you know, I just wanted
to ask you, is that kind of your experience down
with all those Florida Man shows.
Speaker 2: Definitely, I mean I'm in South Florida, so there aren't
the shows in South Florida like they are in Central Florida,
were him has won every single week over there, and
they got a big show at the Tampa Fairgrounds, which
I hear is going to have around four hundred tables.
But here in South Florida we have smaller shows. There
is a show actually today the first time ever, at
the hard Rock Hotel here that's owned by the Mikasooki
Indians who really handle all the gambling the gaming. But
there is a show there which is the first one
I won't be attending, unfortunately. But the shows here in
South Florida are extremely busy. I mean, there was a
four Lauderdale show that goes on every single month and
it's free entrance, so that's a plus, and it's on
it's a two day show Friday and Saturday, and it
was extremely busy. I mean you could barely get in
and out. I mean I talked to a few of
the dealers because I know pretty much all the dealers there,
and one of the dealers when I got there, it
was Saturday morning, and I asked him how Friday was,
and he said that his case was like half and
he had to pull out and stuff from every where.
He said. He said, you know, and there's a small
show I'm talking about. It's probably a fifty to sixty
table show. And he said he had sold over thirteen
thousand dollars worth the cards just that Friday night. With
a short night Friday at opens it's from four to nine. Yeah,
and he says, I've got to restock. He says, and
like all the other dealers told me the same thing,
that they're having super busy days, that vintage is very hot,
and that the biggest problem that they have right now
is buying, is keeping up with their inventory. They just
don't have enough inventory to put in their cases right now.
So I think that's the issues. So the hobby's on fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll get into the Philly show in a
little bit. But I did want to point out this
ship Shijuana. There were videos from ship Shijuana, and I
forget maybe it was Theo. It might have been. Neo
talked about the like the Swiss cheese effect, going all
around to the tables and seeing like cart like the holes.
There goes the Internet for them, and okay, uh, there
we go. You're back you're back, Okay. The ship Schwana
show had like people running at an inventory like crazy,
Like there were there were holes in people's you know,
in people's display cases, and that's a problem. Now. When
I was at the Philly show the after the after party,
which was fun, and that's not what we're talking about now,
but I was talking to Stan Locke and Stan was like,
I don't know how I'm gonna get inventory because we
got Chicago next week, which is right right now. The
Chicago Sports Spectacular show started last night. I got a
nice text from Mitchell, our friend Mitchell, who scored some
cards last night. He said, it wasn't all that crowded
on Friday, but that's not necessarily what you would expect that,
you know, Saturday is the day that people are going
to be there. So I'm looking for for reports from Chicago.
We've got reports here from the Palm Beach card show
is growing seven hundred to eight hundred people this fall.
It's a card show in Phoenix today at Chase Fields. Yeah,
it's it's insane. And then Koudel, he was at Dallas
yesterday parking. Yep. Do you go to trusted sponsorships of
these newer shows initiated by new sponsors. That's a good question.
Speaker 2: Well, the shows that that I go to just a
local show, and he really doesn't have any sponsors. They
do have JSA that goes there every three months, but
we really don't have any you know, there's no PSA
or anything like that. There's a dealer there that will
take you know, these guys that does take orders, you
know from PSA and STC, but overall it's just a
small local show, just some small local dealers. We do
get some dealers that come from Tampa and Central Florida
and Naples and for buyers, but for the most part,
is just local guys. Specifically, what people are buying, I
think a lot of lower you know, the mid grade
vintage is what I see people buying a lot of,
you know, anywhere from grades you know, three to five,
from cars in the fifties and sixties. You know, they're
relatively cheap, you know, most of the time you can
get them for fifty bucks or less than one hundred dollars.
And I see that's what's moving here real quick. I
don't see a lot of the high end cards moving,
but again, this is a smaller show. It's not like Dallas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a report from I saw Chris from
Missouri's video on this, and I know that he was
set up with his friends Tom and Coop, and also
Joe was set up and Micro's set up. And Chris
also said the same thing that he was just getting
covered on inventory.
Speaker 2: So it is a thing, yeah, especially cars like the
ones that chriss. I mean, Chris himself said he took
over three hundred slabs and pretty much sold about half
of them there at the show.
Speaker 1: Well, I brought this picture for you for us to
look at if anybody's seen my Philly video, which is
actually done quite well considering numbers are beginning lately. But
this picture was my first picture. And if you could
see on the far right, there's like what looks like
a little house part. That's the entrance. And so you've
got the entrance to the Philly Show, and you got
this line coming all the way down to the corner
where those two kids are with the blue and the
orange sweatshirt is where the corner goes. And then I
took a second picture looking down the side of the building,
and if you scroll in on that picture on my phone,
all the way, you still can't tell the end of
the line. And this is the line at about I
don't know, ten o'clock in the morning on Saturday at
the Philly Show. And I'd never seen anything like this before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stay on the line. A friend of my
knew from New York went to the show and he
was sending me pictures of the line, and he also
said that he had to park about half a mile away.
I guess it was like a whole people parking lot
or something like that. Yeah, because he said that the
parking lot was full when he got there. And he
got there it was around eleven o'clock and he said
it was already jam packed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I got there at ten after ten
and it was like this I had to do. I
had to do the thing where I just parked, you know,
like half a mile out. It's like in this giant
complex where there's the big Expo center, but then there's
these other businesses that block parking now, but then there's
like a BJ's and it has a huge parking lot,
so I had to park all the way over where
the BJS was. And yeah, it's it's insane, But I
don't know my question to you, Orlando, is is this
because somebody just said this and there I should have
kept it up there these just booming shows, attendants out
of you know, down this down the block. Is this
a sign of things to come? Like this is going
to be that you've reached the peak and now it's
going to be going downhill. I mean, what do you think?
What do you think the future is in the next
year or so?
Speaker 2: No, I disagree. I think this is We're in the
middle of it. I think it's going to continue to
go up. I mean I go to the show, like
I said, every you know, I can only judge it
by a couple of shows that I go to locally.
But I saw people never seen at the show. I
had one person that came up to me and you know,
sees my videos and said that this is the first
show they've been to in almost a couple of years.
And you know, I saw a couple of other people
and I just kind of asked them, you know, because
I've never seen them at the show, and usually I
could see a lot of the regulars, and I just
kind of asked people, you said, your first time in
the show, and a few people told me, yeah, this
is the first time I've come to this show. So
you're getting a lot of new people coming in, and
I think that it's just we're in the middle of it.
I mean, I think it's going to get better and
better and better. And you know, not just Pokemon because
you said to pokem a lot and that's always a
ton of people. But I am seeing a lot more
vintage people coming in. There's still the modern guys with
the pelicans is out there see them, and you know,
the young kids. But I did see a lot of
older people that are into vintage that I normally don't see.
And a couple of people that I talked to were
vintage guys in their fifties and sixties and they said
it was their first show in a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what what I think it's
a confluence of a whole bunch of different issues that
are sort of bringing people to the hobby, you know,
one of which is that you know, the growth from
COVID is continued and some people get out of the hobby,
but at least it puts the hobby, you know, in
a public face. You also have celebrities, you know, with
cards around their neck and you know, I just think
it's kind of a it feels like it feels like
that period in the in the late mid to late
eighties when things started to become kind of you know,
popular in popular culture. Uh, and that's when you start
getting big crowds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. One thing I didn't you didn't notice. You know,
there's usually two big dealers that have unopened wax. I mean,
these guys have you know, six seven tables full of
unopened wax. And I didn't see as much traffic or
as much sales. You know. I talked to one of
the guys name what we call him Whitey, and he
goes to the Tampa shows and he comes down to
the South Florida shows, and I asked him how he
was doing, and he said that, you know, his business
was good, but it wasn't great. So I do feel
that a lot less people are buying wax unopen wax.
I think a lot more people, from what I've seen,
are buying singles now, which I think is a great
thing for the hobby. I think they're realizing that, you know,
they're not going to get a lot of big hits
out of these wax boxes anymore. Like they used to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, of course the price of waxbox is kind
of a deturn. But Adam's got a good point here.
And I could say this from the Philly Show. If
you look at the pictures on the line, there a
lot of kids. And to me, that's a great thing.
That's an absolutely great thing. If there are kids in
the hobby, that means the hobby has a future. And
you know, you and I are people who are a
little up in you. We're not octogenarians or septagenarians yet,
but we're we're there, We're getting there. And you know,
I'm not gonna be around forever. These cards will be though,
and somebody hopefully will be still in the hobby to
own them. And uh, those kids are you know, you
don't see kids at the vintage tables, but you know
they'll learn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, definitely a lot of kids. And and and
I think kids that are not the kids with the
publican cases and stuff, because you see those, But I
think kids that came with their parents. You know, I
saw a mom with two small boys and and and
that was always good to see that, you know that
I guess the kids dragged their mom over then, yeah,
you know they were getting some packs, but they were
also looking through the dollar boxes, which was a good
thing to see.
Speaker 1: Well, I could say that somebody said in one of
the in one of the chat before that if you
if they saw that line that I just showed from
the Philly show, they wouldn't even go in. I was
actually fortunate there he is. Look who it is.
Speaker 2: Hey to see John all right from these Wow.
Speaker 3: Time in a long time. It's not industry hotline.
Speaker 4: It's actually hobbyt first time listen first well part partially
I can't hear anymore, so rarely, well, you know lately,
I missed the Philly shows out of town last week.
I don't know when the last show. It was probably
Philly December. But what I tell people, there's a show
every day on eBay. I just got back from the
West Coast where I hit Burbank, I hit Peninsula Sports Cards,
Stephens Creek, stephen Creek sports Card, that awesome card shop
in Vegas. So I kind of tried to create my
own shows, right, So I hit five cards stores in
this past week in different five different cities.
Speaker 3: So that's how we we built our own. We built
our own when it isn't being.
Speaker 4: Built for Philly's a Philly is a huge autograph show.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of difficult in that it's still great.
Speaker 1: Let me show you picture another picture. So there was
there was talk that it was the Philly show at
the autographs because there were really really good roster of
autograph people yea, and you know, certainly the autograph lines
were big and stuff. But inside the show itself it
was really packed too, So it wasn't just people online
to get you know, I don't know who all there.
Speaker 3: Like you can go to Dallas and you get choked
up pretty quickly in the aisles. The Philly aisles.
Speaker 4: Are normal people size aisles, regardless of you had your
occasional strollers and pelican cases and stuff.
Speaker 5: But it's still still pretty big aisles, and it's still packs.
Speaker 4: I mean the parking, Daniel Ty, the parking is a
madhouse there in Philly. They almost you almost need a
shuttle bus.
Speaker 3: Uh. So it's a great show. Has there something for everybody?
This may come as a surprise when I'm making crowd, like.
Speaker 4: I said that you create your and he's out there, yeah,
and I'm many stand locked there, Dan, your boy Stan
Locke is talking out both sides of his mouth. So well,
he had a ray keating card. He sold it out,
he'd find me another one, and I got the ray
the fourteen cracker Jack right, and he ended up getting
another one.
Speaker 3: He's, uh, yeah, I'm man.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, proof of life for keating job. We issue
with the at the get together. Yeah, I wasn't fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, did any Plank make an appearance again or no?
Oh no, but Sherry Maggie he brought he brought you
brought the Maggie.
Speaker 1: The Maggie Eric card. So he comes up to me
and he's like, hey, how are you? And I'm like, oh,
any Plank guy, you know, homesy, how you doing and
shake his hand. He says, get another card for you. Show.
He shows me the card and it's the Minky Eric card.
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, friend is really good friends with his Yeah,
I'm good friends with his twin brother who probably wasn't there.
But twin brother is a collector too, so we talk
all the time about his brother, about Jim and it's hilarious.
He doesn't have any doesn't have any kids, doesn't have
a mortgage, doesn't have any distractions.
Speaker 3: So man, imagine life.
Speaker 4: Uh like you gotta buy brand and you gotta buy baseball.
Speaker 2: What a lucky guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they told me. And if he comes to
the September get together, he's got to have to bring
his wagoner for that one.
Speaker 3: He's got a wagoner, he tells you, he's got a wagner.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a wagoner. But so lighton, you know,
Layton is uh, it's going crazy about this because he's like, wait,
this guy got like and he put a video up
you know, it's on it's on his channel that you
know that he Holmes. He told the story of how
he ended up with that Plank card, and it's a
crazy story. I mean he was basically like, you know,
keeping an eye out for for you know, just random auctions,
you know, like estate auctions and up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got all the time in the world.
Speaker 2: Who wants a wagoner, but you can get a five
point two million dollar card.
Speaker 3: My wife asked me about that this morning. She was
watching something.
Speaker 4: She goes, oh, you know about that card that sold
for five million, And I said, the wagoners, go no,
some Yankees, So so I guess it was a judge card.
Speaker 1: Some Yankees guy.
Speaker 4: It's a great way to turn five million dollars into
fifty thousand dollars buy Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2: Cart Like, yeah, I agree completely with that.
Speaker 1: So this is I have a different experience from this comment.
If you and for your good deals, it shows anymore.
It seems to buy them the same two to three
deals at every Kansas City area show, I'm sorry for
you in Kansas City. But the Philly show, I just
you know, all the regular guys are there, and I
bought from a lot of the regular guys, but there
were other dealers that normally aren't there. They hit a
thousand tables. You're gonna end up with people getting in
now who've been on the waiting list for how many years?
So I really think that there are more There actually
are more dealers in this space now, particularly when it
comes to vintage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's a good guy.
Speaker 5: He collects Kansas City Royal cards, and him at the
Dallas show.
Speaker 3: He's what I think he's being.
Speaker 4: What I get from that is like the shift changed
from when we were kids or even when we were adults,
and now everybody at a show is a dealer, depends
you know, regardless of what side of the aisle on.
Speaker 3: So the people that are on that waste are getting.
Speaker 4: It might not be the dealers that we grew up
winter dealers that are more it's comp v comp, right,
your comp versus my comp which never really used to
be the case.
Speaker 3: You know, there's always a little.
Speaker 4: You know, back and forth between dealers and collectors. And
now it's just it seems like it's more B to
B now than there is B two C.
Speaker 3: And it's uh, the.
Speaker 4: New generation or a new generation just doesn't go for
a recent COVID stuff. But even junk wax here or beyond,
it's they just do business differently.
Speaker 3: There is none of them.
Speaker 5: There's not a lot of the B two C.
Speaker 4: It's just everybody appears to be running a business now,
whether they're they what's regardless what side of the Iowa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even most of us a collector. There used to
be trade nights where you actually traded. Trade nights is
just another show. Now it's just collectors just putting their
cards out on display, and you know, it's it's trade
for cash.
Speaker 4: And the more shows you have, right like we know,
shows are popping up all over them. You only have
so many older school dealers and I'm not going to
tell you what's right or what's wrong. I have my opinions,
but uh, you know, you have a newer there's just
a newer way of doing business. And it's gonna it's more,
it's more apparent. With more shows and more dealers. Everybody
is everybody, like I said, everybody's everybody's a business right now,
it seems.
Speaker 1: So show's coming up for you, Orlando.
Speaker 2: Just Strongsville. I mean, I can't wait for Ronksville pretty much.
What I'm saving up all my money, send some cards
to CIA Auction or you know, John's right on the
ball there. You know, I'm selling cards. And I was
one that really for years, I didn't want to sell
any of my cards. But again, as we get older,
we got so much stuff, and my kids don't want
all that stuff, you know, they rather have the cash.
So for me, you know, I'm retired, so I got
I got to get cards. So that's what I'm in
the process of doing now, you know. I mean, I
took some cards to sell at the local show, and
I've got some cards to CIA Auction and I'm bringing
some cards for trade night and that's going to be
my budget for Strongsville. So I mean we're less than
thirty days away.
Speaker 4: Now, what are you looking to buy at this point
in collecting career? Orlando, when you're one of those guys
is probably he has seen most everything. What what where
do you angling and said it, Yeah, obviously you're not
just offloading your cards right.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm looking for cards that you never really was
able to get. You know, I don't have the forty
nine leave too, Jackie, So those are two cars that
I'd have to have. Either one of those would be awesome.
And you know, I also collect football, some of the
older football, so I'll be looking for probably some of
the Chickle cards and I don't think I can afford
the Negirsky anymore. That's gone out of range. But there's
also some nice sport teams cards that I'm looking at,
you know, stuff like you ha.
Speaker 4: Now do you have a different or when did you
cross the bridge to the like? I feel like now
if you're going to buy those cards saved by and
you're looking at it, I don't look at any purchase
as a temporary purchase. You're looking at it now at
this stage of your life as as what you're you're
just basically renting this card because you know there's a
point and I'm still at that point where all my
cards are going to be a cross going to cross
the bridge at some point where I'm like, oh, I
have to start getting rid of my cards. Do you
look at that like a negurse here fifty two Jackie,
any different than any of the other purchases you made
twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm looking more to consolidate my collection
because I have thousands of cards. I mean just so
much that it's I've got two closet full of cards,
plus a whole bunch in the garage which they just
the five thousand count boxes. So it's gotten to a
point where I'm trying to get rid of a lot
of the lower end cards just to get cards that
I've always wanted, and those cards I do intend to have,
you know, until I'm in.
Speaker 3: My deathbedd for the long run. Yep, I got for
the long.
Speaker 2: Run, you know, just cards. You know, I've been the
last year I went to the National Amstrongs and I
picked up you know, a couple of tight cop cards
that I wanted. I picked up the Green Taychob at
the National, which I've always wanted, never was able to afford.
So just cards that for me, the cards I've always
dreamed of I've never had. And I'm using a lot
of the stuff that I've collected over the years that
you know, five years ago I said I would sell,
but you know, afterwards her diagnosis, I said, you know what,
it's probably time for me to move on with some
of this stuff. And now I'm feeling fine, back to normal,
but I won't get to the point where I can
get cards that I've always dreamed of but never been
able to afford. And that's kind of my angle right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, a secondary to that, But one
of the benefits of that is most of those cards
would rather have some easy liquidity to them too. You know,
the higher up you get with that, the easier it
is for you know, somebody else to deal with should
something happen. Right, So, yeah, yeah, I've got hundreds of
thousands of cards that people have zero At some point
I'm going to have to turn those in. The cards
that made my family can easily offload at some point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, like you know, as a setbuilder, moved a lot
of sets and well, right now, decide to break up
my fifty ninth and I've sent some of those cards
over to CIA, and I ended up selling it at
a national my Gibs and Rookie because my Gifts and Rookie,
you know, I had a run a grater than eight.
I said, this is my opportunity to get a lot
of money for that card.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I ended up getting a few cards for that,
including the Venezuela and Jackie Robinson Re Toronto card, right,
which is another card I've always wanted, So I picked
that up, you know, selling my Gifts and Rookie.
Speaker 1: So when are we going to get some reports from
the basement updates of keating set building.
Speaker 4: My god, it's a mess right now, man, It's an
absolute mess. So another thing you're talking about card shows.
When I came on or asked me about that, I am,
thanks to my friends Cooter and Zach and Bo, I
am balls deep in TCDB where I trade cards.
Speaker 5: So I trade thousands of cards I get for the
cost of a few stamps and stuff like that. So
it's just another.
Speaker 3: Angle I've I've.
Speaker 4: You know, avoiding the big the big card shows and
just buying bulk off of Facebook or buying or trading
or going to my own card store or going to
card stores. You know, we all the hobby is big
enough that nobody should be complaining about where to get
cards or how to cards and all that stuff. I
know that there's some points in the hobby that are
difficult right now at comm see and some other places,
but there's always an angle. For people like me who
collect everything, there's always an angle. So it doesn't there's
never I never have something. I'm never bored in my basement,
and I never have a lack of things I need
to do with my collection, whether it's logging duplicates, listing
stuff on eBay, or sorting or rearranging and all that stuff.
So I'm a couple of years. I'm probably about five
to ten years behind where I should be.
Speaker 3: It's incredible. It's incredible down here. I love it.
Speaker 5: It's the best place.
Speaker 4: And I'll take this this place over any place in
the whole world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean shows for you. You know I've been
it shows with you. You have your binder with all
the needs and stuff, and buying singles to feel sense,
I found is not a financially intelligent thing to do.
So what I do is I buy giant.
Speaker 3: Thank you for calling me an, idiot, Dan, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Oh you just said, you buy bulk and then you
take the bulk and you trade your ex and you
fill in your set. I mean, to me, that's the
best way to go. You know. Of course I thought
I bought a giant bulk box of sixty eight to
finish my set, and I ended up just getting like
tons of extras.
Speaker 4: So but that's to me, that's fun, Like, that's that's
fun because they're like in my work life, I make
order out of KI and that's kind of when you
buy a bulk lot or and.
Speaker 3: I buy bulk.
Speaker 4: I you know, I came home with I came home
from my trip with a couple of thousand cups. I'll
buy a cuple of boxes a bulk and there's a
particular store I go to. I'm not going to tell
anybody where what city, but I always buy bulk sight
unseen because when you collect everything, it's there's no risk
you're going to fill out, you're going to fill out
some sets and stuff like that. So eleven two hundred
plus different sets I have, so and that just keep
that just keeps growing.
Speaker 1: This this comment here, I think is the anti set
builder comment, which I totally disagree with it. It's not
consistent with my experience. I opened up binders all the time.
I was looking through two of them yesterday, through through
sets that I have and building my fifty two Bowman set,
and I got in a whole bunch yesterday and went
through and I saw cards that I did for a while,
and I just I just enjoy going through and looking
at them. Some of these sets, card after card after
card are just fantastic, So I don't file them away.
I mean, they're right ones right here, ones right here,
others are right here, so you know you can you
can always look at them.
Speaker 4: And you know how I look at my set when
I do buy a bulk whatever it is to do
whatever I have the opportunity to upgrade. So if I
get a bunch of sixty eights, I've had the sixty
eight set done for a very long time. If I
get a bunch of sixty eights, guess what I'll look
through my set to see if there's any upgrade condition
upgrades in that.
Speaker 3: And then guess what I'm looking through my sets. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's it's there's plenty of opportunity for me to my sets,
which is great, and I'm not going to pretend to
tell you how to how to put your set. I
have sets in factory boxes. I have sets in eight
hundred count boxes. I have sets and binders, so we
have all all sorts of kind of sets everywhere, and
that's what set building is fun. Every time you add
a card, you're gonna see a bunch of other cards
when you're adding it in. So it's just a it's
a hobby for a reason. You know, I'm finding enjoyment.
I'm not fine. It's not a competition. So if you
feel like it's competition, then maybe it isn't as much fun.
Speaker 3: But to me, it's a ball.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I used TOMC myself. I mean I have
I've since hundreds of cards over there. I have broken
up some, I send a lot of the stuff over there.
And I bought some cards from COMC recently that I
just got in to finish a set that I hadn't finished.
So I used COMPC a lot for that too. But
unfortunately com C has just raised their prices, Dan, I
don't know if you knew that. They literally doubled their
prices right now.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of so it's to me, you know,
it just it's just another example of again we're in
a unique hobby and a nuanced hobby and trying to
fit that into traditional business structures and formulas. It just
part of the joy of the hobby is it doesn't
fit into that. That's why cards shows are in and
that's because I always say the secondary market is undefeated
because you can't. It's very difficult to apply to practices.
To our heart, there is you know, we're all we're
all doing what we want.
Speaker 5: We're not doing what they want.
Speaker 3: Com see. For a very long time, I guess was.
Speaker 4: Successful and more and more difficult to collectors aren't conforming
to their structure. So their structure can't conform to collectors
because then they're not going to make any money. So
I guess now there's a line in the sand, and
it's we'll see how that goes for them in the future.
You know, I understand costs and expenses continue to go up,
but don't tell that to the person that wants to
collect eighteen cent cards. You know, the eighteen cent card
is going to be eighteen cents for the next five, ten,
fifteen years, So.
Speaker 5: It's difficult for people to do that.
Speaker 4: It's you know, that kind of market, and com See
does a lot of bulk stuff too. It's difficult for
people to find deals on that. When that's going to be.
When that's the case, they're going to find it difficult
to do.
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of disagree with this. I
found the card shows. I find stuff there that I
can find online. You know, it's the way I collect,
and so I think they're actually kind of efficient in
a way.
Speaker 4: You know, it depends on which show, right, you know, yeah,
modern modern, that may be the case. Be like, wow,
but you guys are looking at yelling cards and caramel
cards and all that stuff, and it's like, you know,
it's not you don't see them everywhere.
Speaker 3: So it depends on what you're after.
Speaker 4: You know, if you're if you go into a show
in the same one of fifty or forty nine, you
have three or four of them in the showcase, that's difficult.
But when you see the cards that you guys are
looking for and you don't see him that often. Mine
was for a very long time. In nineteen fourteen, cracker
Jack Keating, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ever.
Speaker 4: I only saw that at one show ever, and I
ended up getting that card through very bizarre circumstances. That
very card ended up in my basement with Stands card
from his collection at the National selling it because he
just got a new one. So then he said he'd
priced it for me. Then he turned out selling it
at Boston for way more than I would have paid for.
That card ended up on eBay for less than what
stand sold it. Then it was listed by Dean's Cards.
So then I went to Dean's Cards website and it
was less. It's there for less than what Dean was
selling it from eBay. I ended up getting it for
about four hundred dollars, less than what Stan stole it
for so sold it for a couple months earlier. So
it's very bizarre. But I'm saying like, that's these cards
that show up. I don't know how modern collectors think,
but we get to a point where we've seen, we
have seen stuff come and go and regret not buying it.
And that's a card right there. Like a couple of times,
you know, you go on eBay. Now I think Stan's
got one of for like twenty nine hundred dollars for
an authentic nineteen fourteen keating. You just don't see him
that much. So thankfully you learn a lesson and then
then you react, and then you get a little creative
on how to get that it.
Speaker 3: Certainly wasn't going to pay stan two grand for that card.
I ended up getting it for.
Speaker 5: A lot less through weird means.
Speaker 4: But that's that's part of the fun, you know, that's
part of the creativity of the hobby that necessarily, like
the industry, doesn't see that creativity and doesn't know how
to react to it.
Speaker 3: Thanksfully.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the good things now is we have
you know, through through modern internet stuff, you can go
through so many different auction houses, just more than ever.
Even the dealers themselves have their own sites. I mean
you look at Ash, you know, and he's got cars
on eBay, but he has them on his own side,
and you can get cheaper. You know, you got a
Garrett from ball Park Memories has his own website. So
a lot of these dealers, even the smaller dealers, have
their own sites, and you can get stuff a lot
cheaper there than you can get on eBay. I mean,
even some auction houses like CIA, you can get really
good deals there, and there's just so many options. And
now you got Layton Sheldon that started the auction wire
where you can search there. They search every single auction house,
well not yet, but they will, you know, in the industry.
So there's just so many options for collectors right now
to find the specific cars that you need. And you know,
like John says, you got to be patient because you'll
find those cards eventually. They're out there. The key is
to get them at the right price. And that's where
sometimes eBay is not the best and sometimes the auction
houses are the best, but sometimes they are. You just
never know. You gotta heys important.
Speaker 3: So listen, here's here's something that I abide by.
Speaker 4: Plans are useless, but planning is indispensable. So if you
have a plan to go to a shard show to
get a card, it's not there. You know, we've talked
about it before, Like you have that single focus on
getting a card, Uh, then and you're not there, then
then the show is a bus But planning for everything,
you know, whether it's a break or whether it's a
I'm talking about like maybe an ash Ashes break, uh,
you know, Facebook Marketplace or Facebook Twitter. Auction houses all
that stuff like, there's a lot of options. You're putting
all your eggs in one basket, then, uh, I'm not
sure that that's the right way to do it. So
you know, you can have a plan, but it's going
to be as soon as as Mike Tyson says is
the first as soon as somebody gets punched in the nose,
plan goes out the window. But Dwight Eisenhower said that
about plans. Plans are useless planning and dispensable. So be
ready for anything at any time. Pivot all that stuff.
It should be.
Speaker 3: That's how I operate in my professional life.
Speaker 4: It helps my hobby and hobbies there would be fun
filled with angst on whether you're going to find the
card at that show.
Speaker 1: Just take it. My Philly experience this time was was
a good indication of mixing them both because Stan Locke
put pictures of his cases up on ig So I'm here,
I am scrolling, you know, scrolling and then and then
zooming in on his pictures, and I found the card
that I wanted that I knew going in to the
show already what I was looking for, and I and
I did, I got it and got rebel card. Right,
and uh, And I had a plan. My plan was
to bring a card, an extra cracker Jack card that
I knew Stan was going to want, and it ended
up being really good because he ended up wanting it
for his own collection, and that really worked out. So
I got a trade cash deal for the card that
I saw before I even left New York City. So
there you go.
Speaker 4: You know what's interesting about Stan's table? I think everybody
should know this or this, but those are all duplicates, yeah,
which is I'm not sure how many dealers are doing that,
and that volume he does. It blows me away that
those are his dupes. And he's the same way. He's
a collector who's upgrading. So the fourteen Crackerjack heating became
available because he had gotten another one, and he had
won a better one in an auction, a one or.
Speaker 3: A one point five.
Speaker 4: So that's one of the things I love about Stan
is he's a collector and those are all his.
Speaker 2: Well, Dan, didn't you upgrade one of his.
Speaker 1: Cracker Jack exactly? And then and then two days later
he sends me a text. The show's already over, he's
already you know, home, And he sends me a text
he says, look at this, look at how much you
upgraded me, and he was really happy, and wow, I
just made this guy. Yeah, so you.
Speaker 2: Know John and all the different places that you can
get cards, and you know, if your friends, there's another
way to get cards. And one of the guys that
you know became friends with it. But he follows me
on my channel and stuff mark Dodgers' cards. He was
checking Facebook and he found a card that he thought
would be something I would look for, and he immediately
text me, puts me in contact with that person because
I really am not on Facebook market and stuff, and
I was able to pick up this Armando Marsance card
and it's a wild baking It's the only one. It's
the only one that exists. He saw that it's a
nineteen seventeen mile baking and as soon as he saw it,
he says, got to go into Orlando's collection. He put
me in contact with the guy on Facebook marketplace and
I ended up picking that up and it's one of one.
It's the only one that exists. So I would have
never found that card if it wasn't for all these
marketplaces and some friends. Knowing the kind of stuff that
I collect and contacted me about that.
Speaker 4: You know, what do anything wrong with that card is Orlando,
is that it can't tell its story, its journey, you know,
like what has that card gone through in the last
hundred yearly in ten years?
Speaker 3: I would love to hear that card tell its story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What is that New Orleans that say in the back?
You know, is that where the bank is?
Speaker 2: It's a New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just crazy to how many how many New
Orleans summers did that thing.
Speaker 3: Have to said?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can imagine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean it's got the address on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that it has the address of the factory.
And what I do is I will now if I
had that card, I would go on Google Maps and
I would look it up and I would see what's
at that address now? And I did that recently when
with import was it called I carry in the name
Import card from like the thirty four and the factory
still exists in New York City. It's like ten minutes
from here. So I walked over there and there to Starbucks.
Speaker 3: Now probably right, I I listen, I'm a weirdo, dude.
Speaker 4: I drive past old houses and old buildings and wonder
what's inside those walls or what's in that attic, and uh.
Speaker 3: It's it's fun, you know.
Speaker 4: I've always had an imagine nation, So it's fun to
think about like what's hiding behind the plaster or what's
in the attic or what's in the basement and stuff
like that, because they're still out there and there's you know,
we know that cards are going to there's a good
portion of cards that are still out there undiscovered, meaning
you know, behind the wall or something, and unfortunately, they're
going to die. Most of them are going to die
a horrible death unless by chance, somebody is doing a
renovation happens to find them. Otherwise are gonna get hit
with a bulldozer and get knocked over and be relegated
to history, I guess.
Speaker 1: Collection.
Speaker 2: It was incredible that Layton you found a wagoner. I
mean that was great. Somebody had that in there, you know,
in a picture frame.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Crazy still after that, and it's not like, you know,
there's a you guys know, there's a lot of cards
that we weren't talking about thirty forty years ago that
are hot right now.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 4: The caramel cars andlings, you know, even the cracker Jacks.
But yeah, everybody, you know, everybody's knowing about the Wagoners
and decades, so the fact that they still kind of
pop up now.
Speaker 2: And then I said late but I mean golden, golden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, John, you got any tips
on organizing your collection?
Speaker 3: I mean, you got a collection? Is such a broad term.
Speaker 4: Right, Let me ask you guys, how many cards do
you think you guys have in each?
Speaker 3: Dan? How many you have any?
Speaker 1: I don't know, twenty thousand maybe, ok, far less than you?
Speaker 3: How about you Orland over fifty?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And Dan, I know you've gone through some trauma with
your cards natural of that stuff, so your collection might
might have been bigger at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know. The good news about that it was the
Hurricane Sandy in my parents' basement in twenty twelve, is
that most of what I lost was the junk wack stuff,
boxes of score and even Dondris and you know that
kind of stuff. And so I did lose I did
lose vintage cards. I remember opening up a binder and
seeing in nineteen seventy one Clemente literally like stuck together
and moldy, and it was just awful but for the
most part, I would see my vintage survived most of.
Speaker 5: It except for the sixty four giants.
Speaker 1: You lost the sixty four giants. Yeah, I did throw
out the whole set of sixty four giants, that's true.
I can't believe you remembered that.
Speaker 2: I forgot.
Speaker 4: I can't remember where, I can't remember my dog has
the guy, but I can. So the number one rule
of being organized is the more you have cut yourself
enough slack to realize you're a little bit nice. I
like to say on between ninety five and ninety nine
percent organized, meaning correctly logged into TCDB with my database
and choice, having moved on from back in a few
years back, knowing where stuff is, accuracy, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So what I think is the more you have, the
more lenient.
Speaker 4: Of yourself, a little more break knowing that you're not
going to be one hundred percent right.
Speaker 5: And it has nothing that it's not a cognitive thing.
Speaker 4: It's just that when you're dealing with numbers and names
and stuff like that, it's human nature that we get
things sort of. The more opportunities we have, the more
we may mess something up.
Speaker 3: So just take it easier on yourself. To realize you
might not be one.
Speaker 5: Hundred more stuff, you know, I know that's again, this
is a hobby.
Speaker 4: We're not talking about a lot of us do some
interesting things in our professional life just because we're that
we have to be that way.
Speaker 1: In the basement.
Speaker 4: And that's one of the problems where things I have
right now, like this hobby is supposed to be a
respite from the real world, Okay, because there's enough pressures,
whether it's in our family life or our work life,
there's enough pressures there that we have to meet head
on and off.
Speaker 5: The hobby shouldn't be that pressure. It shouldn't be a pressure.
Speaker 4: And one of the problems now is, you know, real
life has like barged its way into the hobby. Uh
you know, pricing, we're competitive up pricing, we're entitled or
this or that and all that stuff. It's still a
hobby and that's that's the That's what you have to remember,
whether you're organizing whatever. If you're into a hobby and
I'm into it for the hobby, there's people that are here,
say there's people that are their hobby is the hobby.
My hobby is collecting, So enjoy it and don't put
pressure on yourself. There's a guy on TCDB that was
going on about how he's a database manager and all
his prices need to be accurate and match up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you're worried about that, man, you're in
the wrong hobby.
Speaker 5: It's always been a little bit of chaos, little chaos, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely a hobby's supposed to be for fun and too,
you know, relieve the stress of the world, you know. Yeah,
there was a comment from Fun Funine made a comment
on the fifty four Wilson Franks. Yeah, just send one
into CIA auction. So if you're justed for April, there's
a fifty four Wilson Franks in the slaughter that's autographed
that I see in So if you're interested in that one,
it'll be in next month's off. Yeah. Those are beautiful cars.
I love that one day. That's another card I love
to get, the Ted Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always been a dream card from mine, Flying Wieners.
Speaker 2: I love those cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a few from this I've asked and
also but this is the best one. It's the Feller
card Fellaws smiling at the hot dogs. This is who's
frowning at them.
Speaker 4: This is going to be taken as a dig, and
maybe it was intended that way. I'm not gonna tell
anybody when's the last time you saw.
Speaker 3: A beautiful card? Mate? You know what I mean? Like
those cards right there look like artwork to me. I mean,
regardless of the.
Speaker 4: Value, Like that Feller card, he's part I'm not sure,
you know, I really like, you know what, I really
like a lot of the stuff that was made.
Speaker 5: Between ninety five and two thousand five or even twenty ten.
Speaker 4: You know, you have the the ud masterpieces and you
have the newer Turkey beds.
Speaker 3: I really love that. But I feel like there's nothing.
Speaker 1: Lately that coaches that you look at that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's holding a whiffleball bat right there. That's me, man,
that's me in the alley.
Speaker 1: But it's like the red and the green and the
yellow and he's smiling, and it's just the composition is fantastic.
You know, things today are are.
Speaker 3: This is what they are today. Somebody's going to say,
that's a cool. Look at card. There's fifteen variations. It's
a different color.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry for hours, at my rate, my work rate,
that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3: Yeah really, yeah, I can't. How do you count that high?
I mean, just did that Chap log in?
Speaker 4: He logs in every uh yeah, hits the button every
time he gets into the hobby for twenty.
Speaker 1: See, here's the thing. I'm the opposite of that. I
have to log those hours in my business. In my hobby,
the time is not kept. You know, I much talk.
Speaker 3: I'm much called a salaryman, so I don't have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, budgets keep track of mine when I'm in here.
It's the time stands still. So that's the until somebody
you know comes in and says it's time to do something.
Speaker 2: If you love what you're doing, if you love what
you're doing, is that's the thing about cards. I don't
care how long I play with my cards. I enjoy it.
I love it.
Speaker 1: Hot Dogs need cards again, Yeah thing because you end
up you know, I have some of those hot dogs
cards what they're called. But they got you know, they
got all the their messy let's put it that way.
Speaker 2: Dan, this has really been a good hobby hotline. We
haven't really talked about the industry. We're literally talking about
the hobby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we had a second we had another
topic which was more industry oriented, which we're not going
to go to because we're almost that time right now.
But a lot of the people in the chat were
saying exactly what you're saying right now, Orlando, is that
we and John thank you for calling in, because Orlando
said we should get a call in and you you
you you had a premonition we would get a great caller,
a John Keating sighting, which is always very welcome. And John,
I really thank you for coming on and uh keeping
the hobby hotline on on the hobby and so uh,
you know the the I haven't really been able to
keep that up with the chat as much as I
would like to, but the chat been terrific also.
Speaker 4: So I'll talk about the industry real quick here, and
it kind of blends the last couple of things we've
talked about the hobby who doesn't listen or the industry
who doesn't live in the hobby, I don't care what.
And he says, they don't listen to the hobby, but
if they were smart, they would be putting cards on
the back of cereal boxes or in because it's free advertising.
Remember back in the day, like there was no skin
off anybody's teeth. Kellogg's was printing boxes or Hostess was
printing boxes. Anyway, was no added expense. But it's great marketing, right,
So why aren't you putting your cards there for free
and having somebody else do the advertising. Fanatics could license
stuff out a food manufacturer or a beverage manufacturer, again
at no cost to them, and they would do their
marketing for if you if you had a kid who
want to, hey, check this out, went to Burger King,
you know, and gave your card, three of your cards
away with a meal. What you're looking for is those
five or six or ten kids out of one hundred.
That hobby is a stick let Burger King do your
marketing right, and you sit back and you're gonna have
people buying cards. I think that that's there. We're so
lost in the whole world of ROI and revenue and
market share and all that stuff that they don't know
how to get the markets.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: They're trying to protect or grow their market share, they say,
but they're not doing anything to do so. The prices
are going up and the only thing I see, you know,
fanatics vest and drawings. If you put cards back in
hot dogs or cheetos or or you know whatever, because
that's gonna you have. You have a captive audience, and
you have a demographic that you can hone in on
and put those cards. And I was saying, I always
say the w NBA has lost a big opportunity. They
could be putting cards in girl scale cook right, and
think about the market. You want to grow the w
NBA with females and males, but get more women into
the hobby, which makes you know, will produce more revenue.
Put them in girl scale cooks. Do this or like
they're just so my OPI and how they're they're marketing
their stuff.
Speaker 2: What a great way to get the kids to go
with their mom's grocery shopping and get them out of
the house. Get the cards in the potato bags, get
them in the yellow.
Speaker 1: For you. This this is a card that was from
what's it called Milk Lake to Lake Milk. They stapled
it the milk carton. You can see the staple mark.
Speaker 3: It's perfect.
Speaker 2: Well, you put them out of the milk boxes and
put them everywhere. I mean even the red hard dog food.
Speaker 1: Are on the bottom of the bottom of a jello box.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know brilliant.
Speaker 4: I mean they're already printing and making those boxes and so,
you know, like we said about hosts, cogs was a
different deal because they had to insert the cards in there.
But it's a slam dunk. But they can't see. They can't.
You know, it's it's really tea ball versus fastballs, like
it's all teed up from the dew.
Speaker 3: They just can't.
Speaker 4: They're waiting for a fastball or a slider cutter and
a ball sitting right on the tee and they don't
want to take a swing. So yeah, it's don't give
me this growing the hobby ten x stuff if you're
not going to put in effort the lawyers.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all about licensing.
Speaker 4: Really well, it's always been about licensing. That hasn't changed
in my lifetime. I'm not as old as most people think,
but I was born in sixty eight. There was it
was always about licensing after Marvin Miller, right, and that
would have been laid sixty.
Speaker 3: So nothing's changed.
Speaker 4: Even when Tops had the monopoly it did you know
there was still availability to license things outside of trichinal
trading card and you know the back of a hostess
box in theory. Wasn't a trading card, so it didn't
violate any any license agreements.
Speaker 5: It was the back of a box.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's you know, you have to think.
Speaker 4: I think as we spit people out of business school,
they start to think everybody's thinking the same instead of
like again, you know, my biggest client is data driven,
and I've had to tell them time to be dataew
not that because the world does not run off of data.
Speaker 3: You know, your your.
Speaker 4: Miles per gallon on your car isn't the miles per
gaw and it depends on how many hills you have,
depends how you accelerate all that stuff. The nuanced world
and fanatics would be best to understand that sooner rather.
Speaker 2: All the young guys. I think they need some of
us holder guys to to do some marketing for them.
You know, all they do is market right through the
breakers there.
Speaker 3: Hey, Dan, so you and I take a lot.
Speaker 4: Well, Listen, people like Orlando and Mike Petty think just
because they have a great head of hair they're superior
like you and I, Dan, and I don't think we
should take that.
Speaker 1: Some hair left.
Speaker 4: Mike Petty's probably older than me, and he's got perfect hair,
yet he thinks he thinks it superior, and I'm not
going to take that.
Speaker 3: I've got it.
Speaker 4: I've got Hey, Mike Petty, I'm like you, My roof
on my car goes.
Speaker 3: You got so that's almost like a convertible.
Speaker 1: Good for you, But there you go. Oh no, I
refuse to admit that ball I still have hair.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I had to break it to
you on the hot line.
Speaker 1: Dan, you're killing me. You give me trauma from like,
you know, fifteen years ago, remembering cards that I lost,
that I forgot that I lost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it happens to us, all right,
like that happens to it. It's not the end of
the world that we lost cards because oddly enough, you know,
we talked about the fifty two mantle.
Speaker 3: There's no shortage of the prices. There's no shortage of this.
So anything you.
Speaker 4: And I lost, Dan, probably you know, doesn't make the
hobby news. I'm not sure about Orlando, because Orlando's on
a different level.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Well, the good news for me is that
all that stuff that I lost, even the stuff that
I've sold and traded away back in the day, I've
replaced it. All I haven't. I know what cards I had,
and I've got them all back right, so that.
Speaker 2: Even even though I'm getting older, cards made me feel
like a kid again. And that's really the old basis
of this hobby. It's just, you know, they make you
young if you douce all this stuff, best thing you
have in your life. And I think that's the best
part about the hobby. You know, as a lifetime collect
lifelong collector, you know, it's kept me young, it's kept
me excited, and there's always something new for me to
go after.
Speaker 1: Yep. Absolutely, But I've learned that if I mute myself
while the sirens are going up First Avenue, it's better
for everybody's ears.
Speaker 3: Where are you, man, Tyran? Did you move to Teyran?
Speaker 1: It literally there's a there's a window right in front
of me here that goes right out onto First Avenue,
and First Avenue has ambulances going up because this hospital
is all along First Avenue and it's the un and
the NYU Hospital all that stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's not a very charming place to live.
Speaker 1: It's a very it's a very traveled thoroughfare, but it's
charming place. Charming is not really the word, you know,
but there's so much happening and there's never a boring
moment in this city. So speaking of yeahving a boring moment,
there weren't any boring moments in this show. And I
I just you know that the Chat has said it
and uh and they're right that. Uh, you know, it's
nice for a hobby hotline to be only about the hobby.
And so I have two of my favorite hobby guys
on with me, and I really really appreciate Orlando. Obviously
we've done many shows together, but we never did a
hobby hotline together. Hopefully we will again soon. And John Keating,
you know, always always welcome to hang out with you,
being person or virtual. So I'm gonna we're over. We're
over a little over an hour, but certainly been a
great show, and like I said, the chat great for them,
and uh so I'm gonna run the run the outro,
uh take care Hobby Hotline. I'll be back next Saturday
at eleven a m. Eastern and uh hopefully I don't
know when I'm hosting in April, but I'll be hosting
in April at some point. So we will see you
guys again.
Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline.
Speaker 4: Just want to remind everyone we are a live show
every Saturday morning, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific on
the four Collectors channel on YouTube.
Speaker 3: That's the number four, the word Collector's channel on YouTube.
We hope to see many of you live on a
future Saturday. We have a great interactive chat room and
we always provide a link for anyone that wants to
come on the show and chop it up with us.
So that's a reminder.
Speaker 4: Every Saturday, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific only four
Collectors channel on YouTube.
Speaker 3: Hope to see you on the show.