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Speaker 1: All right, good morning.

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Speaker 2: It must be Saturday morning because it's another edition of

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Hobby Hotline. And I'm joined by two gentlemen, uh really

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some of the early ogs of this show. Uh and

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longtime members and two guys I really really uh love

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being affiliated and calling them friends and uh uh so,

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and we'll start with at the top here with doctor Jim.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, sir.

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Speaker 3: Always good to be here with you, and Brody, especially

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you too long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and and Brody, good morning, and and Brody,

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we're gonna I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna, I'm

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gonna embarrass you right off the bat. I was gonna

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do it, do it second. But Brody h recently walked

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the stage. He is a high school graduate, so congrats

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or in order uh for Brody as he is a

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high school graduate. Uh, I graduated about five years ago myself, Brody,

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so what no, just a long time ago, but uh,

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we'll cool. You posted a video you got to walk

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the stage. I know you've you've missed uh a good

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portion of your senior year my right with with with

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your epilepsy and and but you know, put in the

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work right and graduated. So kudos to you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a while.

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Speaker 5: It's been a long ride, but we got it done.

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But now I'm excited to be with you guys and

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talk some sports card.

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Speaker 1: There you go. How are you doing, Brody? Before we

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get kind of just for no, I know a lot

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of people care.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing better. You know. It's it's an up and

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down road, but I'm doing better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you've done a lot with with your ailment

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and bringing awareness to it, so I appreciate it. I'll

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put you on the spot one last question before we

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get into other stuff, college or or taking a year

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off you know, approach there.

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Speaker 6: I'll probably go into a local community college and do

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like an online thing for the first two years and

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then decide what I'm going to do after that, like

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go for a master is there if I'll just be working,

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we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Well you're young, you know, you

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got time. I know my son even took a gap year.

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But you're going right into it and uh, full speed ahead.

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So that's uh, that's awesome. Again, congratulations, all right, before

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we get into go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: You're not taking a gap year from the hobby, are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, you know that that will never happen.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Well congrats, Uh, you know it was good to

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see and you know with everything you've done with and

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you've handled it with with nothing but class and grace

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and again put into work, right, you know they you

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don't graduate from high school without putting in the work.

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So kudos to you. Before we get into the nuts

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and bolts of our show today as well, it's it's

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Memorial Day weekend, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know someday sometimes I think we forget you know, you

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know the meaning. We think of it as just an

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extra day off. I mean not me.

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Speaker 2: I come from a family where there's a lot of military,

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but Memorial Day, you know, the freedoms to get to

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do the hobby, to do shows like this and and

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came from the sacrifice, the ultimate sacrifice of our great

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men and women of this country. So you know it's Monday,

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but I want, you know, with this air and Saturday

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before the Monday, want to take a minute, take a

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minute this week, if not more than a minute, take

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some time and take a out those who are no

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longer with us, who gave the ultimate sacrifice so we

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can enjoy the things and freedoms that we have and

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get to do whatever it might be, cooking on the grail,

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sort in your cards, spending time with family, whatever.

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Speaker 1: That looks like to you. So thanks to those who

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have laid down their lives. All right, with.

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Speaker 2: All that graduation Memorial Day, let's get you know, doctor Jim,

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you've sort of got a new title with the upcoming

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card company called oh Yah.

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Speaker 1: I know Jeremy Allen is a part of that.

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Speaker 2: I think, CEO, oh if I'm not getting this title

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all wrong, just kind of you know, I know you

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don't want to spend a ton of time on it,

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but you know a lot of people are making comments.

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Speaker 1: I forget you being on today. Let's let's go right

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to the source.

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Speaker 2: What it is, what your role is, and all those detail.

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Speaker 3: It's a novel idea, you know that when something happens,

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why don't you ask the person what it means. There

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was a press release, and before I even get started

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on that is that I am so sorry that the

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press release, which I agreed to, came out the exact

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same day that the Beckett Media logo refresh was announced,

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and that was very unfortunate. I wasn't in any way

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trying to steal anybody's thunder. In fact, this isn't. I

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don't think it's that big a deal. Basically, I'd been

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helping these guys for almost five years as a pro

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bono consultant, and I help lots of people in the hobby,

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and so I'm an informal advisor to many, many companies,

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many nonprofits. So I'm so but these guys in particular,

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I've met with, you know, a couple times a year

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for almost five years, and then this this, when this

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year came around, they said, you know, we really need

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it would really be helpful if we could say that

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you're our advisor. And I said, well, you know, I'm not.

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I just I'm happy to help you guys. I help

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lots of people. And they said, no, no, no, we really

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want you to be advisor. We want to get some

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pr value out of that. And I said, well, what

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do you want from me? And they said, we don't

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want anything different. I said, do you want? You just

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want a continuation of meeting, you know, a couple times

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a year to do that again, and they said yeah.

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And so finally I said, okay, I'll do this. Well,

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this is the first time you've ever been an advisor,

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I said, no, I've been an advisor many times, but

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I can see that you're this company, this, this, and

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it's not it's not really I wouldn't call it a

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card company. Yes, it has the capability of that, but

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it's it's broader than that. So it's it's a technology company.

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H and it does involve some cards, and I've just

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enjoyed interacting with him about the future aspects of where

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the hobby could go. So I it was just a

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regular card company, that wouldn't have been as interesting to me.

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So I know I've helped him over the last almost

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five years, and I look forward to helping the future.

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But you know, my I'm wondering if we're going to

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talk about this on hobby Hotline for longer than my

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advisory responsibility for this month, because I basically I had

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a forty five minute conversation last week with the with

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the founder, and that may be hit for this month.

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So again, it's not no money changing hands. He's a friend,

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I believe in what he's doing, and I want to

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be helpful and I think it could it could it

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could be really good for the hobby. So that's kind

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of my rule. I don't help people that I've think

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unless I think I'm good of the hobby. So a

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lot of fun, a lot of energy, a lot of

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new approaches to and I love that. So I enjoyed

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working with that. Jeremy is not the COO. He's I

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think he's the c CEO, which is the chief off

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by a letter off letter, but he's still a c

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and but he's a lot of fun. And frankly, how

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I met these, in fact, how I met Jeremy a

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long time ago, and how I met Scott the founder

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was through a one of my favorite employees that left

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to start his own thing more maybe twenty five years ago,

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but a guy that worked for me for a long

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time was very entrepreneurial and when it came time for

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him to go off on his own, and he did great. Great.

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So I've had a number of people that I hired

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that were entrepreneurial that I encouraged to when it was

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the time to you know, fly the nest. And so

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I met I met Scott and Jeremy through that guy,

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and you know, so so that I mean that's it's there.

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and so I already had some kind of relationship and

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now it's just it's just a little bit formalized. If

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it's an hour a month, I'm going to make it

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the best hour that month that I can. And it's

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basically them calling me usually saying, hey, we've got a

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problem with this, we're thinking about this. What do you think?

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And uh. And Jeremy's a seasoned hobbyist too, but I'm

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I used to I think entrepreneurially. So I'm enjoying it

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and they are too.

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Speaker 1: Are they Are they based in Dallas?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean that's a big deal. My my

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proto pro Boto consulting does not involve me chopping out

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at my expense. But no, they're they're so they come over.

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the thing that was different and earlier this year, maybe

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January February, they had a dinner where most of their

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team were there. Uh, and I said, okay, I'll come

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to the dinner. And I was impressed with the rest

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of the team, and so the finally said, you know,

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it's I shouldn't be withholding you know, I I am

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helping you guys. I do believe in what you're doing,

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and if it's helpful for me to be listed as

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an they have other I'm I'm their third best advisor

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they've got. They've got two other super sharp advisors that

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they've had. And I met those guys and I thought, well,

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you know what this is. This is gonna be a

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two way street. I'm gonna enjoy this, and I think

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I'm gonna I'm gonna receive a benefit and give a benefit.

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So gung ho, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Listen if they ask me, they're getting some great insights,

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some great experience. Your record is really second to none.

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board in general, be sites. We're not talking just cards.

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Speaker 1: It's I know you're act.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean this like I already knew you were

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active in the hobby, but even more so now with this,

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and again they got.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's more so John, I really I

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didn't sign up to do more. I just agreed to

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declare or make public what I was already doing. So

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if they were going to say, we're going to pull

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to work on interesting things. And I you know, it's

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not about the money, it's about being engaged. So, like

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you said, so it's not going to be an increase

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in my hours. If it is, then I could, I

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guess I could resign. I'm not going to be I'm

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Speaker 1: Be an advisor.

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Speaker 3: You know. I'm enjoying the interaction and I and they're

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doing some exciting things. They're doing things that are not

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being done and I have a chance to speak into

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that and help shape it for the good of the hobby.

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So that that's words.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, congratulations for me, Brody. I don't like you know,

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I know you've worked. You were the Tops kid, You've

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done a lot of stuff with Tops the years that

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the national special. Like you said, you're about to you know,

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in a little bit you'll be starting your your community

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college initially. Is working in the hobby something on the

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radar or at this point are you looking like something

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else in the sports field or you haven't even thought

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about you know, it's not you.

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Speaker 1: You got time, but I'll put you on the spot.

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Speaker 5: I'll keep it short and sweet. Stay tuned very close.

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To something coming out on social media.

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Speaker 4: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 7: Did Doctor Jim just hire you as Brody? You two

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can be an advisor, except you might want to a

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fully paid advisor and you'd be terrific. So I hope

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people are listening and engaging you.

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Speaker 3: That's that'd be cool.

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Speaker 2: There you go, So maybe maybe another announcement, uh coming

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down the pipe?

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Speaker 1: Play?

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Speaker 2: All right, good morning to everyone out there. I put

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some of the good mornings on the screen while we

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in the watching good morning to everyone and that sort

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of thing. Yes, Beckett, I know it was in the

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chat room. Beckett has a refresh logo for their company.

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Speaker 1: You can find it online.

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Speaker 2: I didn't put it in my graphics column for this show,

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but won't be hard to find. Just google Beckett logo refresh.

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It'll come up if you want to see it. Thanks

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again everyone for being here this morning. So another kind

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of local story for you, Doctor Jim. We'll start off

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with this one kind of a feel good story. Right

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as we see I put on the screen, this is

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the Judge twenty thirteen Bowman chrome, not the auto version,

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but the refractor one on one two gentlemen Matt at

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the Dallas card show I think last year or twenty

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twenty four, and it was a a young man, a

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younger man. I don't they didn't give his agent any

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of the reports struggling with some disabilities and the dad,

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but they were talking about vintage cards, and the dealer

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who goes by Texas card Man as his screen name,

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made a you know, appointment to go over look at

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what they had, and this kind of was just in there,

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and you know, along with the vintage cards and the

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way the story reads, he kind of said, hey, would

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you take twenty five grand for this? And I don't

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think the two gentlemen knew exactly what they had for sure,

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probably what it took him, but he's like, no, I'm

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not going to give that to you. This card's worth

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way more than that. And he sort of facilitated getting

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the card graded, which you see, I think it's a nine,

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and then facilitating the sale, which I believe was heritage

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and it went for eight hundred plus thousand dollars, So

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a nice windfall for for that family, who, from what

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I read and accounts, kind of helped them out tremendously.

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That kind of money would help a lot of people

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and most people out.

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Speaker 1: So just a kind of.

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Speaker 2: A cool story about you know, a year a lot

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of stories where people get taken or they don't know

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they have someone on scrupulous as was sort of the opposite,

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doctor Jim. This sort of happened and it wasn't. It

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wasn't our brand, Texas card made Texas card, dude. So

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we love Brad, we love Brad, but it wasn't him,

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and I'm sure what he did the same thing had

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had the opportunity arose. Do you know much about the

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parties involved or the story or is it you know?

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Speaker 3: I heard the story. I heard the story, but first

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let me just not let it lie that the logo refresh.

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They did come over and show that to me, and

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I did approve, not that they needed my approval, but

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it was I thought it was nicely done. And Colin Hudson,

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the new GM, has been very clear that this is

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there on the move in improving not just refreshing the logo,

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but refreshing the brand and building back better trust. So

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I'm I'm happy about that. So that's a real good

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story too. But the Aaron Judge, what with a guy

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with this abilities the way I read the story, it

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was kind of the dealer said, you know, hey, this

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is a great card. Would you take twenty five thousand?

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And then the deal And since that has been put

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out there, I think the guy the dealer must say,

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now you really don't want to do that. You need

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to put this up for auction. And he hooked him

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up with Heritage and he got a finder's fee or

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something from here. Yeah, yeah, he get a But I'm

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just saying, but you don't tell the story that you

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offered the guy twenty five thousand, unless it was not

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in jest, but just kind of you know, not everybody

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knows exactly what everything's going to go for. If this

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have been in twenty thirteen, could that have been a

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twenty five thousand dollars card? Maybe maybe not Okay, but

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in twenty twenty six that's a huge card. And so

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again all's well, that ends well to give us, And

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it just seems like it went to a nice beneficiary

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for found money. I mean, this is real money and

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it's it's life changing for families. So I love the story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brody, any thoughts, I mean, you you know, it's

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a crazy card.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to be a Yankees fan or a

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Judge fan to know the significance of the card here.

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Speaker 2: No one really knew where it was right or was

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it still in a sealed box somewhere. Now we know,

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like it was pulled without the big fanfare, you know,

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when it was pulled kind of years later.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brody your.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts on that, and a dealer right doing the right

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thing and like steering the owner of the card in

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the right direction so they could get you know, the

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most bangprinted buck Pun intended.

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I love hearing that the dealer did the right things.

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Speaker 5: I feel like you hear a lot of stories and

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you just there's sometimes you know, you don't know if

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you could trust dealers sometimes that they want to do

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something like that. But I mean it's also it's just

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a great look at card, Like I'm surprised that got

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a nine too, unless there was a scratch or something.

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I mean, looks pretty nice.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: The way I read the story too, it said it

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was and I don't quote me here guys and chat room,

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but the way it made it was written like it

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was kind of just in the box. I don't know

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if it was in a softly a top loader, both

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loose but it didn't specify. But the way it was

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sort of tilted, it made me feel like this thing

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was just sort of in there with the other vintage cards.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and I was loose. That's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, that's what I was thinking when when I

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saw the grade. So, you know, it's a it's a

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great like you said, Brody, it's a great card, and

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nine is a great grade. You know, we we we've

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we forget Aaron Judge has been around a bit now and.

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Speaker 1: So that card's you know, thirteen years old at this point. Uh.

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Speaker 2: But uh, it's just a good story where you know,

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people are gonna maybe it's something they didn't.

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Speaker 1: Realize they had. Uh, and uh they were selling it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like they were selling a majority, if not all,

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their collection, and this will just make that number a

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higher figure than they probably ever imagined to help that

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family out. Sometimes you hear these stories where it's the opposite.

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You know, I didn't know I had this, and this

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guy offered me this and took me. But this is

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the opposite of that. So doctor Jim, do you know

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I think the last name of the dealer is Rolick.

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Or I might roll it r r O h r L.

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Speaker 1: I do you know the gentleman by any by any chance.

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Speaker 3: Or no, not by name?

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Speaker 2: I might know good, Okay, all right, I figured i'd

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ask just in case and give him a extra plug.

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All right, So let's let's go to our next story here. Uh,

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you know, from a feel good one too, a not

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so feel good one. Well, it recently came up in

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the past weeks. I haven't dived in on this myself,

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so I figured we take this show having Brody on

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as a kid, even.

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Speaker 1: Though he's a young adult adult.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, we heard a recent story where a

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deal and a show was a registered sex offender, and

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it brought up the topic of you know, safety for

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kids in the hobby, and you know about doing I've

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done shows, I know, doctor Jim, you know, for for

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thirty five years now, maybe actually thirty nine. I started

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in eighty seven with shows, and you know, I've always

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had to most of the times I've had to provide

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my tax.

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Speaker 1: Number to set up as a dealer.

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Speaker 2: But never you know, they're not doing background chucks on

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people setting up. But now there's some ground swell about

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should we should promoters be doing more due diligence to

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who's allowed to set up and you know, be badged

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at the show. Does a response? Should it happen and

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should the responsibility fall on the promoters? I believe you've

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promoted a few shows in your day. I did it

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for a year or two way back when in the

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ninety you know, it was never on the radar then.

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But you know, doctor Jim is someone who attends shows,

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has done shows as a dealer promoter them like, what

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what do you think here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think when a dealer, I mean a promoter

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has a brand. I mean we're seeing consolidation and expansion

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among some of the promoters. Kyle Robertson now has the

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Dallas card show in New Jersey. Front Row has gone

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out of the West into the East. So there's some

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national brands and uh, and they ought to be they

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ought to be aware of who they're signing up. It

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shouldn't be just taking money of anybody who shows up

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and says they're already asking do you have Pokemon or

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do you have sports cards? And they ought to fill

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out an application and ought to give them permission to

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do background checks. And that's probably just good business because

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they're representing your brand. If something bad were to happen,

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it's almost like you're saying, uh, you can trust these

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dealers to the best of your knowledge, and so it's

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it's not that tough to do that now. But again,

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so that's on the promoter side, you know, on the

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kids side or the potential victim. You know, there's there's

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some Dallas nonprofits and ministries where if you want a

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tutor an inner city kid, you know who's you know,

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having trouble with reading, and you want to drive to

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a bad part of town, you're not allowed to do

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that one on one. You can only do you first,

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you've got to be vetted, and you've got to do

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it two on one. So it's it can't be one

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adult with one kid. So I'm just reminded that you know,

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in the hobby a lot of times, but if it's

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one adult with a bunch of kids, that's different than

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you know, So I just think this is such a

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relational hobby. But there there there ought to be this

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prudence that you know, you're you're you're making good decisions

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to not put yourself in a compromising position that goes

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for the promoter, for the dealer for the kid. I

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guess I'm getting on my soapbox here, but I don't

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want to see bad things happen. And there are safeguards,

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one of which would be to prohibit dealers, you know,

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from setting up. On the other hand, they could still

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come in. There's not going to be any background check

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for people to walk in, and so, yeah, adults or kids,

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anybody ought to be aware that there are occasionally bad

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people out there and be you know, have be careful

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about getting isolated.

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Speaker 2: A couple of comments here, but I want to ask

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Brody too, but yank me card Steve says, my understanding

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most promoters do have background checks. I don't find that,

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but maybe it depends where he is. VVV Shaw says

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our Central Texas New York show promoters are not showing

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any discretion. They just want table occupied that I did

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a show. I don't do it anymore. I did a

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show north of here, north to Syracuse, and I'm not

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saying the promoter isn't a nice guy. But I didn't

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even get asked, and I know others that's set up

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at the show.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even ask for a tax number.

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Speaker 2: Now I have one, which I would have provided upon

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but he wasn't even asking for tax numbers. So it

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was a pretty safe bet that people were setting up

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at the show who weren't even like legal to collect

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sales tax and pay tax and shouldn't have really had

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a table, uh, to be honest with you, And that's

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dangerous because obviously as a promoter, you're responsible for that.

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Speaker 1: You that'll fall back on you as well. So you know,

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I don't know. Like I'm in teaching, I definitely had

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to have a background check.

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Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I couldn't start like I was hired,

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but I couldn't start until that was cleared. So it

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actually caused a slight delay in my start date five

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years ago. So uh, And obviously working with kids, you know,

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there should be background checks.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they cost.

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Speaker 2: It is it is anyone out there, like, is it

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cost prohibitive where a promoter, you know, if he has

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to do forty background checks like that could be unless

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you pass that cost on to a prospective dealer wants

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to set up to the show. You know, I guess

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there are different levels of background check like just going

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on Google or just going on to like a sex

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offender registry and typing in the name, assuming it's the

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real name. Like, I don't know all the details involving

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00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:23,400
involving that. I only did promotion up shows myself for

476
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:26,480
probably like fifteen months, and then it was so much

477
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:28,960
work in hassle. I just said I'd rather just set

478
00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:32,119
up and let someone else do the work again else

479
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,160
in the nine different error. But this stuff's not new,

480
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,039
you know, So all those questions I wonder would cost

481
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,960
and is that a prohibitive? But brody as a kid, right,

482
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,680
I mean, what are your thoughts here? I mean, I mean,

483
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,720
you're you're probably taller than most dealers at this point,

484
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440
but all joking aside. You know you've been you've been

485
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,279
in the hobby for years, even as a younger kid.

486
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,400
Was it something that you worried about or thought about

487
00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,000
or you were just so locked in with cards? And

488
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,599
now as a young adult, right, you know, graduated high school,

489
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,039
what are your thoughts about, you know, keeping the hobby safe.

490
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's really that crazy to do

491
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:16,200
background checks. I mean, you know, if a business owner

492
00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:18,640
hires an employee, they're going to do a background check.

493
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240
And a promoter is hiring somebody to set up at

494
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,599
their table, you know, hiring for a weekend. So I

495
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,119
don't think it's that crazy to make sure that there's

496
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,920
nothing bad going on. And I think in terms of kids,

497
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,279
I mean, I've.

498
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 4: Been doing this.

499
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:34,599
Speaker 1: If anyone in the check.

500
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, John, let me speak to that a

501
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,160
little bit. I mean number one, just the.

502
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,799
Speaker 1: Prosor yeah, yeah, go ahead, he said.

503
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: As a promoter, you just tea be having an app

504
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,039
that they have to put something down that they can

505
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,680
they could not tell the truth. That happens a lot.

506
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,680
But just in the app, if you're if if the

507
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,359
potential dealer is giving the promoter the saying I agree

508
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,640
to have background check, even that is a deterrent that

509
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,079
some criminals are going to say, I don't. I'm just

510
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,079
not even sign that show. Okay. Now, where the promoter

511
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,960
to do a background check on one person is expensive,

512
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,960
to do a background checks on one hundred is not

513
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:21,319
okay if you did all your dealers. There's online services

514
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,960
that you can get a subscription. You know, whenever I

515
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,440
go in there, I want to check on somebody. That's

516
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,880
always like they want to charge you fifty bucks, but

517
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,759
then you can get as many as you want or

518
00:28:31,799 --> 00:28:34,000
something like that. I think, and I just want one.

519
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:37,000
I just want to find out who I'm doing business with.

520
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,759
So yeah, if a dealer, if a promoter made it

521
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,599
a part of their business. There are services that drive

522
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,400
the price way way down for an individual thing because

523
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,880
they're just searching the web. Usually they're not hiring a

524
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,839
PI to track any And like I said, the bad

525
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,960
guys don't like that. If they know they're going to

526
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,519
get a background check, then they just either need to

527
00:29:00,599 --> 00:29:04,440
dress up or move on. And if they're bad guys,

528
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:08,519
I hope they move on. Well, just just bad guys

529
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,839
want to get the punishment on to fit the crime.

530
00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:15,599
Speaker 5: I would just like to add to like kids for kids,

531
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,119
like be smart, you know obviously with everything, and like

532
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,160
if you're doing social media and stuff like that. I

533
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,319
mean I've been on social media for eight years. Not

534
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,240
many people like even know my last name, so like really,

535
00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:33,079
in general, I think it's just something don't tell strangers

536
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,599
things that they shouldn't know, you know, the obvious things

537
00:29:36,599 --> 00:29:39,240
that you would do that if the random guy came

538
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:40,640
up to you at the park and asked if you

539
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,359
wanted candy, like you.

540
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,599
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, a lot of it. Like you just said,

541
00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:48,599
Brodie's common sense, right, you know, like at.

542
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: The shows I set up at as teenagers and they're

543
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:55,480
usually by themselves, but you know they're older, uh, you know,

544
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,079
more decision making obviously be different. But then you see

545
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,480
younger kids five six seven, some of us other parents

546
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:05,079
too to be near though, you know, don't let that

547
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,319
five six seven years old just go to the other

548
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,920
side of the room by themselves. The potential not saying anything,

549
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:14,079
but could happen, Well, it could happen.

550
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: That would happen, but you know, you are like, you know,

551
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,079
just as a dad.

552
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,039
Speaker 2: My son's older now, but even when he was younger,

553
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,640
you know, depending on his age is how far I

554
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,680
let him straight for me as he got older.

555
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:28,359
Speaker 1: Maybe that that that.

556
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,839
Speaker 2: Square footage number went up as he became a younger

557
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,400
adult and a teenager. So some of its parents and

558
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,359
I see these young kids sort of running around the

559
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,079
show almost unattended and having fun. I don't you know it,

560
00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:48,000
which is good to see, but you know, still sometimes

561
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,240
I'm like, where's mom or dad? Like this kid's very young, uh,

562
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:55,240
and I don't really see they could be nearby, but

563
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,720
I don't see sort of any any direct supervisions. So always,

564
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:02,240
you know, as a dad, I always maybe I notice

565
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:05,960
it more so being a dead But you know, here's

566
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,200
a comment from from Steve here says, as an ex

567
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,039
business owner, BGC services as an annual service charge, which

568
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:17,519
includes probably so many background checks here. Like you said,

569
00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:21,319
doctor Jim, there are cost effective ways, and especially if

570
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:24,079
you're a promoter. Now I'm thinking about this, if you're

571
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:27,119
a promoter who's doing shows on the regular and you

572
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,839
got to pay a one year fee whatever that might be,

573
00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,680
I don't know, to do background checks on your dealer.

574
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,039
Speaker 1: They're not be all for that obviously.

575
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: If you're a promoter that's doing one or two shows

576
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,519
a year, you know, might not be as cost effective

577
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,720
as someone who's doing twelve or more if it's a

578
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:48,480
monthly show. But I do think, you know, doctor Jim,

579
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:50,200
like you said, some of the it does fall on

580
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:55,160
the promoters, right, so you know, you know, to have

581
00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,759
responsibility for the safety of everyone.

582
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:59,799
Speaker 1: You know, we see cameras.

583
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:01,519
Speaker 2: Now at a lot of shows because a lot of

584
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:07,960
the theft to get capture potential thefts or wrongdoings on video.

585
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,359
Speaker 1: Right.

586
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,519
Speaker 2: Uh, that's obviously a deterrent to if someone had ill

587
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:17,720
intentions with children, but you know, if the background checks

588
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,880
are not cost prohibitive, then I'm all form and say

589
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,119
we should be doing them. And as to someone who

590
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,480
sets up at shows by all means, background check me

591
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:32,079
and everyone else I'm setting up with, if they're not.

592
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Setting up and you're wandering around. You know, I've in

593
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,920
my podcast several times in the last month, I've made

594
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,039
references to disney World because I'm actually going to disney

595
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:47,240
World with my grandkids and kids, yeah, in the near future,

596
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,599
not going to say exactly when, but I'm going. And

597
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,480
I've said I'd rather be at a card show than

598
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,240
being at disney World. That's how much I love being

599
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,920
at card shows. But my point now is that it's

600
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:01,599
it's just as safe to be at a card show

601
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,119
for a kid as it is to be a Disney World.

602
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,759
Bad things can happen at disney World and do and

603
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,599
bad things could happen at card shows and they generally don't.

604
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,640
But you're not unsafe at a card show, but safe

605
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,599
for disney World. And Brody's saying you gotta be smart

606
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,319
as a kid.

607
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true.

608
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: A couple comments too here, guys, and we'll probably move

609
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,839
on here in a minute, Brody Mookie says he heard

610
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,160
your middle name is Danger. I don't know if it's

611
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,119
Orlando or very own. Orlando says some parents. This is

612
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,440
true because I know I know firsthand, right some parents

613
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,440
just dropped their kids off at the card show and

614
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,960
then picked them up later and not good. Yeah, I

615
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,920
think I guess it depends on the age. If they're

616
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,000
a teenager, that's I think that bothers me less. But

617
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:55,119
if they're like ten, eleven, twelve or even younger than that,

618
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400
which there's no way that you. Yeah, that that's sort

619
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,200
of that makes me nervous and I wouldn't do it.

620
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,599
My son was always with me like I was there

621
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:08,760
as someone in the hobby. But if the parents aren't hobbyists,

622
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,039
I think you got to be teenagers to be kind

623
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,719
of dropped off and picked up later.

624
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: File five balls.

625
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: So this is true. Only half the people in the

626
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,440
world have common sense. I agree with that for the

627
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,199
most part. I like to think the numbers higher. Maybe

628
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,440
it is most small local shows. Everyone knows each other.

629
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,360
Club show need to be have be a member, to

630
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,639
have a table. We donate monthly that different charities love

631
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:39,679
the charitable aspect, and you're getting some Disney World advice here,

632
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,079
doctor Jim taking them on the carousel progress right, it is,

633
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,760
and there's as someone who just went last month to

634
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,800
Disney World myself, it is good. Ac So if you're

635
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,320
in a hot day, there are certain buildings that are

636
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,599
perfect to cool off, kind of refresh, and then get

637
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:02,559
back out in the hot, hot sun if you will.

638
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,599
That ride is all That thing kind of debuted at

639
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:09,880
the New York New York World Fair. I think sixty four,

640
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,760
but I could be off my years body. Since the

641
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,039
comment was made about Orlando saying, you know, kids get

642
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,119
dropped off, and I know that's very true, And I'm sure,

643
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,840
what age do you think?

644
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,079
Speaker 1: And maybe you can put yourself in here.

645
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: Could you you take okay to be dropped off and

646
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,000
then just be picked up when you're done.

647
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,639
Speaker 1: What's that age to you?

648
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,039
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure like teenager, fourteen, fifteen. But honestly,

649
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,360
like looking at this from a different point of view,

650
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:39,840
this hobby is the best when you're doing it with

651
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,239
other people. Even if your parents don't. A joint introduced

652
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,639
it to them, and you know, everybody's safer that way.

653
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,480
But honestly, like this hobby is best when we're all

654
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,519
together talking about it. Introduced it to them. There's so

655
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:53,920
many friendly people in this hobby. There's no reason to

656
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:54,800
do it by yourself.

657
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, great advice. My son is not as active as

658
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,840
me but a little. And I try to get my

659
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,960
wife into it, Brody, No such luck, you know anything.

660
00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:09,679
She supports what I do, but she doesn't want to learn.

661
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

662
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: So there's there's confirmation on my year. My memory is

663
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:16,719
still hanging on for dear life. But yeah, it's the

664
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,960
sixty four World Fare. So that's where the carousel of progress,

665
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,159
uh you know, debuted now at Disney World Helicopter.

666
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,079
Speaker 1: Parents are the worst kids need to learn.

667
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:33,679
Speaker 2: I know all about as a former varsity high school

668
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,679
baseball coach and varsity high school football coach.

669
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 1: I know how parents are. And it's funny.

670
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: Some parents can be hands on on so many things

671
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,119
that are probably they need to be less hands on,

672
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,760
and then other areas where they need to be more

673
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,599
hands on, they're not. So again, that's where the you know,

674
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:55,679
common sense comes in. And Muki reminds us where that

675
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,119
state where that World Fare took place, which was right

676
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:04,159
across from where she stadium is so and good coming

677
00:37:04,199 --> 00:37:07,239
here from sports girls and he met Mookie in Orlando

678
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,719
at the Strongsville Show. Great people. I second that remark.

679
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:18,000
And as the Flushing is where yeap where the US

680
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:21,760
Open tennis is and one of my favorite guys I got,

681
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,760
you know, back in the day, John McEnroe, New Yorker himself.

682
00:37:26,039 --> 00:37:27,079
Speaker 1: Go ahead, doctor Jim.

683
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: Just to pick up on what Brody was saying that

684
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,719
when we go to the National in a couple of

685
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,000
months now, they're going to be some parents with their kids.

686
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,480
And in many of those situations, the parents are going

687
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:43,800
to grudgingly be there because it's their kids hobby. In

688
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,199
some other cases it's going to be the kids grudgingly

689
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,079
there because it's the parents hobby. The ideal situation, which

690
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,119
makes you not be a helicopter parent is if the

691
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,960
parents are loving it and the kids are loving it

692
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,519
and they're doing it together. That is the best.

693
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,199
Speaker 1: Yeah.

694
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: And I can tell you, doctor Jim, you know someone

695
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,599
that does shows at least once a month and not

696
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,000
twice a month. Right, I'm seeing more families attending shows

697
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:14,000
where they're all active and participating.

698
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:17,079
Speaker 1: That's nice to see. I'm seeing it seems like I'm

699
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:18,679
seeing more of it.

700
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,079
Speaker 2: Not to say it wasn't there before, but it seems

701
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:24,679
like it's becoming more of a family tradition, if you will.

702
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,000
And I'm also seeing parents in the situation you brought up,

703
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,960
doctor Jim, where maybe it's the kids more in the hobby.

704
00:38:32,199 --> 00:38:35,159
I am seeing more parents like will ask me questions

705
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,039
or you know this or that that they're taking at

706
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:41,760
least taking an interest in their kid's interest and trying

707
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,440
to learn more. So that's always that's always refreshing to

708
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:50,679
see as well. So it's a good segue, dtor Jim

709
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,000
with your comment about the National because put this up here.

710
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,559
We're sixties, yeah, from sixty seven days from the time

711
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:03,679
of this recording. Uh so a little over two months,

712
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,000
about about nine weeks, if you will, So sixty seven days.

713
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what, it just happened.

714
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:16,960
I didn't even think about.

715
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,559
Speaker 3: You did that on purpose?

716
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:21,639
Speaker 2: I went, I like to take that much credit, doctor Jim.

717
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,519
I did it just happens. The show today is away

718
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:29,559
from the Wednesday start of the National, So you know, again, Brody,

719
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,719
it's in your backyard as it is a lot.

720
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: Chicago, you know.

721
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: And I always get asked, is like, especially with people

722
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,400
who know I've been a bit and they haven't or

723
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,719
this is their first one. Like when should you start

724
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,519
like getting ready? And my answer is always the same,

725
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:48,880
right as soon as as soon as you can. I

726
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,920
know people who are making plans for the next one

727
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,119
the minute.

728
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,559
Speaker 1: The one they're at is over, as early as they can.

729
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: I know some hotels, uh don't open up reservations U

730
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:03,559
that early. But I think the answer to the easy answers,

731
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:06,119
the sooner the better.

732
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: For me too. Sometimes I drag my feet on, like

733
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:14,559
making all those reservation flights if I'm flying in hotel,

734
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,440
I'm a little It's funny the older I get, I've

735
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,199
gotten worse at that and better at other things. But

736
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,920
I always seem to figure it out.

737
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: But one thing I do, and then you know this

738
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,320
about this time, like two to three months from the show,

739
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,079
I kind of slow down my buying of cards. And

740
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,840
what I mean by that is for my personal collection,

741
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,599
like setting up at shows, I might buy inventory that's

742
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:41,480
for the showcases, but as far as cards for me

743
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,199
like you see all around me. I sort of two

744
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,880
or three months out from the show, I kind of

745
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,039
slow down doing that. With the anticipation to have more

746
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:55,199
funds with me to buy those kind of cards at

747
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,000
the National. I'll turn this to the chat and to

748
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:01,800
you guys, doctor Jim and Brody. Do you have any

749
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,280
like traditions lean up in the nashow you do this

750
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,719
when this or or not necessarily go ahead?

751
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,159
Speaker 4: Brady, Well, I think I like all your points too. John.

752
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 5: I don't really worry about the transportation stuff as much,

753
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,679
just because you know it's a thirty five minute drive.

754
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,880
But I agree with your points on it, I think

755
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,000
especially too. And I mean I think it depends kind

756
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,199
of how you are as a collector. Like when I

757
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,199
go to a show like the National, I know some.

758
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: People and I think you're kind of like this.

759
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 5: Do you have specific cards that you're kind of looking

760
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,880
for where I'm kind of like, I'm just looking for anything,

761
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,119
and if something pops out of a showcase that I like,

762
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,360
I just grab it. So I think it's kind of

763
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,320
you know, we're seventy days away. I'm gonna say seventy.

764
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,079
We'll round up and say seventy. I think if you're

765
00:41:51,159 --> 00:41:54,239
kind of person that you know I wanted sixty three,

766
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,280
Robertal Clementing, I don't know, you know, look up what

767
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,079
that's worth. You know, get a good idea of what's

768
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:02,920
a good price. But if you're like me and you

769
00:42:03,039 --> 00:42:06,239
kind of just buy anything, then you know, I'm just

770
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,760
kind of ready for it.

771
00:42:08,119 --> 00:42:10,159
Speaker 1: Doctor Jim. You've been listen.

772
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, doctor Jim has been to

773
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,239
every national from the first to the last one. And

774
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,960
then schedule for this one. When do you start thinking

775
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,519
about like the next one? Like what are you always

776
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:26,840
thinking about the day.

777
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: The day after the one before? No, I mean I

778
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,800
get ready. I mean I will say this, John, just

779
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,239
so people know. I get my hotel and air as

780
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,559
soon as possible. They won't let you reserve too early,

781
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,400
but as soon as the as soon as they release

782
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,119
the rooms, I'm first one in as much as I

783
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,239
possibly can, I get the airfare taken care of, and

784
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,679
so I'm set on that. In the meantime, to use

785
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,679
your baseball softball analogy or golf analogy, is it, I'm

786
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,800
getting ready for the big game in Chicago in late July.

787
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,320
And so when I go to the Dallas shows or

788
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:11,000
richest show in a couple of days, and it's other

789
00:43:11,079 --> 00:43:13,760
shows that I would go to, that's my batting practice,

790
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,880
that's my driving range. I'm staying in shape so that

791
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,599
I can still hit the fastball.

792
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 2: And so because or you could say you would say

793
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,679
those regular season you could say those are regular season

794
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,079
shows and at the Nationals the world it's like that, Brody,

795
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,840
Does I know it's great for you being it's like

796
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,440
you said, in the backyard thirty five minutes away.

797
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,639
Speaker 1: But do you you know it's again at your backyard.

798
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:42,159
Speaker 2: Do you like that obviously it's convenience or do you

799
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,960
like it when it's like in other cities too?

800
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,519
Speaker 4: Oh?

801
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,199
Speaker 5: You know, it's obviously nice being right here. You don't

802
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,880
have to worry about as much and then you have

803
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,760
more money to spend at the show because you don't

804
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400
have to you know, book hotel, all that stuff. But

805
00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:57,000
at the same time, what is this We got like

806
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:02,239
three years, four years in a row, that essential of

807
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,679
three back of three, Like by this show and probably

808
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,199
definitely by next year, I will probably want to go

809
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,480
somewhere else for it, just because, you know, like to

810
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:14,800
change it up. Like going from Chicago to Cleveland was

811
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,960
nice seeing a different place. But I mean, you can't

812
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,079
really beat being forty minutes away.

813
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 3: No, I was ten minutes away from me from getting

814
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,960
to a hair airport. So uh. But still the other

815
00:44:29,039 --> 00:44:31,800
thing I do in preparation, and it really does start

816
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,119
right after I make some notes after last year's National

817
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:38,079
of you know who, and so I've got to have

818
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:42,320
a list going into in sixty seven days who I

819
00:44:42,519 --> 00:44:45,920
must see. There's some people there, there's some tables I'm

820
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,719
for sure going to hit, the people I'm definitely gonna see.

821
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,760
And then there's a bunch of other things that i'd

822
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,639
that are stretch goals. I'd like to do this, like

823
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,039
to do that, but the musts. I kind of have

824
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:59,159
a list of the the who and the where that

825
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,119
I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna have dinner

826
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,679
with certain people. I'm gonna make sure I hit certain

827
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,079
tables on certain days. I'm gonna make sure I stop

828
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,480
in maybe record a podcast with a person or two

829
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,320
so I have some Again, I'm not looking for a

830
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,519
full time job, but I am on the clock when

831
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:16,920
I am at the National.

832
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great that's a great piece of advice too,

833
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:20,840
doctor Jim.

834
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: Right there, right.

835
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: Is whether you're there for a cut one day, a

836
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,360
couple of days, the whole shebang, five or six days,

837
00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:32,360
you really do need to sort of have a game plan, like, hey,

838
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,239
I'm gonna you know, and there's events, as you just

839
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440
pointed out Doctor Jim too after the show. Right, most

840
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,599
of the time, the I always try to catch a

841
00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:44,360
spoiling event, whether it be a you know, usually a

842
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,880
baseball game Chicago, whether it's Wrigley or I still call

843
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,599
Comede park rate seller or whatever, it's who paid the

844
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,360
naming rights.

845
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: But like last year, I went to a White Sox

846
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,639
game at their stadium.

847
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: That's the first time I'm I've been to that stadium

848
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,280
Cleveland when it was there a few years back. I

849
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,599
went to the Guardian where the Guardians by. That was

850
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:10,880
my first time there as a baseball fan. It's always

851
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,159
cool to see new parks. I think I've been to

852
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,239
probably slightly less than half of them at this point.

853
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,519
I don't know if I'll ever get to all of them,

854
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,239
but it's an opportunity, right, There's so many things to

855
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,199
do during the show obviously post show, but you really

856
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:27,800
need to.

857
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,119
Speaker 1: Sort of map that out.

858
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,199
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could fly by the seat

859
00:46:31,199 --> 00:46:34,199
of your pants, but man, it's a lot less stressful

860
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,280
if you sort of have a game plan and things change, right,

861
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,199
someone has to cancel or you know this or that.

862
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,639
I get it, but sort of having some sort of

863
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,840
semblance of a game plan. I know, with Brody, with

864
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,840
you doing a lot of the events for tops bagging

865
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,079
the day, you had to like I know your mom

866
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,000
and dad helped you out, but you had you know,

867
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,119
you knew you had to be here at a certain time.

868
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,960
I had to be here at a certain time, and

869
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,159
obviously you don't want to be late. So being organized

870
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:08,440
is important. Like you said, Brody, I'm one of those guys.

871
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,280
I'll bring a list of seven to ten cards i'd

872
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,480
like to add to my PC. I know I'm not

873
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,079
gonna number one be able to afford all of them

874
00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:19,480
or number two get all of them. So if I

875
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:24,119
could put a small debt, two three, four acquisitions out

876
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:27,559
of that list of ten, to me, that's a successful show.

877
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:31,159
But I'm probably overorganized other than the fact that I

878
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,800
dragged my feet making my like reservations and all that stuff,

879
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:41,000
but everything else I'm very organized with So that's a

880
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,559
great tip. And be better than me. You know, it's

881
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:47,960
funny because my wife, guys will ask me. She doesn't

882
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,280
call it the national she doesn't know. She just calls

883
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,199
it the big show. So she'll say, John, have you

884
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,679
made all your plans for the big show? And you

885
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,679
know the one you know. Usually the answers no, she

886
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,719
was are you going? And if you are, when are

887
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,599
you gonna do that? I'm like, I gotta get go.

888
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,559
So it's usually my wife that like, by asking that

889
00:48:07,639 --> 00:48:11,400
the light bulb goes on, that I get in gear

890
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,199
and do that. It's not that I don't want to

891
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,360
go or it's just that I, for whatever reason, I

892
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,119
dragged my feet, but I use when I when I

893
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,280
get airfare, hotel in a runner car, I'll use like

894
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,119
orbits or Travelocity or Expedia and sort of package it together.

895
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:30,679
And I've gotten great prices, including people telling me like,

896
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,159
you're paying less for your hotel than than I am.

897
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,679
Speaker 1: And you and I booked it, you know, four months

898
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,760
or five months before you.

899
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess I've been lucky for dragging

900
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,840
my feet that I'm still getting fairly you know, reasonable

901
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,880
deals if you will.

902
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: The travel challenge in Chicago is not outside the show,

903
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,440
it's inside the show. The layout is really tricky in

904
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,559
the sense it's not a rectangle. It's I've said, it's

905
00:48:57,639 --> 00:49:01,000
kind of like a baseball feed the northwest corner, uh

906
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,840
kind of like home plate. Then you the old old

907
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,559
uh the old school, you know, old guard or between

908
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:11,519
first and second pace and uh p s A is

909
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,719
out and right field and then there's an upper deck

910
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:18,079
out there, and the autographs are in center field, and

911
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,400
you know, the singles club is in deep left field.

912
00:49:21,639 --> 00:49:24,880
So it's if you figure out where things are, and

913
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,760
the it's tricky because you can get not dizzy, but

914
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,760
you just get disoriented because the even the even the

915
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,480
numbers of the tables, even that's a little bit tricky.

916
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:41,760
So and upstairs is going to be way bigger than

917
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,559
it was and spread out, so that's gonna be another

918
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:48,760
thing to try to handle. So the good part about

919
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,599
Chicago is that it's probably similar to last year. The

920
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,360
bad part is last year was very confusing.

921
00:49:55,639 --> 00:50:00,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see some one national I'll self admit I

922
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:02,239
get lost, like how do I get out of here?

923
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: Or how do I get over there? Or where's this?

924
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,000
Or where's this kiosk?

925
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: And like and even after a few days, I mean,

926
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,639
I'm a little better by thirty three or four, but

927
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,559
I'm still potentially like getting lost or not you know,

928
00:50:16,159 --> 00:50:19,400
having trouble getting too where I am because like you said,

929
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,800
it's not just a rectangle, it's got some like cut

930
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,960
ins and it goes this way and you go into

931
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,760
one room and like you know, I go to the

932
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,119
other and so yeah, it's it's it's confusing, Brody Bean.

933
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:35,480
It's your home show in a sense, like is it

934
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:37,239
you know it like the back of your hand.

935
00:50:38,119 --> 00:50:40,639
Speaker 5: No, I mean I used to back when there wasn't

936
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,599
you know, or like doctor Jib setting up her deck

937
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,000
and all the extra stuff going on.

938
00:50:46,159 --> 00:50:47,079
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

939
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,559
Speaker 5: I always like the red carpet room because you get

940
00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,159
so your feet gets so hurt during the day. Red

941
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:54,280
carpet room, that's that's the spot.

942
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:56,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

943
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,519
Speaker 2: I've taken advantage of that as well. So let's see,

944
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,760
uh the five five boss.

945
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 3: You know, doctor food is a problem because of the line,

946
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,800
do not have lunch at noon? Have lunch at ten o'clock.

947
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: Here's what I do, doctor Jim, I said that on

948
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,480
my show. I don't. I'm a I'm a lunch skipper.

949
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:19,800
So I have a backpack.

950
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,639
Speaker 2: I got some granola bars, some beef jerky what do.

951
00:51:24,599 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: They call it? You know, granola in general, just a

952
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,320
bag of granola.

953
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll eat I'll you know, go over into

954
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:35,239
a corner and grab a couple peus or whatever.

955
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: You eat that.

956
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,199
Speaker 2: So I skip lunch nine times out of ten. And

957
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,480
then I have we I have plans for dinner somewhere

958
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:45,800
like every whether it be like a party that's put

959
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,840
on by a company where provided or we make reservations

960
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,639
for those that don't know. We usually do a hobby

961
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:56,480
hotline dinner where those involved in the show can get together. Uh,

962
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,639
And that's become a tradition. So I don't as you

963
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:02,519
can see, I don't skip dinner, but I do, believe

964
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:04,880
it or not, I do skip lunch and just kind

965
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,599
of pick and snack and that sort of thing. And

966
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:09,880
it just it saves me more time too. If I

967
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,880
was to leave, either leave the National or you know,

968
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,880
take an hour during the National, a full fledged lunch

969
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,320
where you sit down. I just look at that as

970
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,360
like I lost time, and it's already you're already trying

971
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,519
to cover so much in the time you're there.

972
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:27,159
Speaker 1: And then even when even when.

973
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: It's over, I'm like, I think I missed this section,

974
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,519
or I didn't do this, or I didn't like you said,

975
00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:33,840
or I didn't get to meet this person which I

976
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,639
was hoping to meet in person, So I kind of

977
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:39,559
skip lunch just with the not that I'm not hungry,

978
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,360
but just for the time factor and I'll just kind

979
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,079
of snack on stuff real quick and then not miss dinner. So, uh,

980
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,400
while I throw that, and here's some comments here, five

981
00:52:51,519 --> 00:52:53,800
five ball says he will go to the next time.

982
00:52:54,679 --> 00:52:56,360
He will go to the nationale next time it comes

983
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,239
to the West coast and listen, I'm on the East coast,

984
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:00,800
but to be fair.

985
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,639
Speaker 1: They should get one.

986
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:04,119
Speaker 2: I mean if I was on the West coast, I'd

987
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:09,599
walk a shot at again. Never been in National, recently

988
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:12,360
started going to local shows. This is uh, make me

989
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,119
carceive next shows in Phoenix promoted by front Row, which

990
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,559
is a He later on says it's an eight hundred

991
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:19,199
table show.

992
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big show.

993
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 2: Sports Sports Girls seventeen also says I've never been to National.

994
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,440
Thinking of doing the Detroit National in twenty twenty eight,

995
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:31,920
maybe hit a tiger thing too.

996
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: Isn't it next year in Detroit? Or am I wrong?

997
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: The eight No twenty twenty seven is the third year

998
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,039
in Chicago?

999
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: Okay?

1000
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,639
Speaker 2: All right, So well, let's let's get let's get way

1001
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:49,840
ahead of ourselves. I mean, what do you it's never

1002
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,199
been in Detroit, right, that will be the first time

1003
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,039
ever in Detroit.

1004
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 3: Detroit was the second.

1005
00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: One ever and then hasn't been back since.

1006
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: If it did, there's at least that number two, I think,

1007
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,320
but I don't know if they had one more after that.

1008
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,800
Detroit was one of the major cities of the hobby

1009
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,960
back in the seventies, and yeah, not so much now.

1010
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Orlando says, I don't have a card list. I

1011
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,119
just see what catches my eye. But I do play

1012
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,039
with friends. Stuke says, I'm a grazier. I shop around.

1013
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,119
I shop once around the show and then go back

1014
00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:25,920
to key tables. For hidding this, you must have stole

1015
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,119
my thunder Scott. This is what I do, or at

1016
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:32,119
least I try to do. I try to like make

1017
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:35,199
the rounds on the floor, take some notes to where

1018
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,480
I saw cards I was interested in in their prices,

1019
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,599
and then by the second day or sometimes my first

1020
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,400
purchase is the second or third day. One year, it

1021
00:54:46,519 --> 00:54:48,360
was like not to the fourth I was running out

1022
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,000
of time. Five five ball, I'll act. We asked your

1023
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:57,079
expertise here. Jim did the National Star in California, wasn't

1024
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:58,239
it on the East coast?

1025
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:02,119
Speaker 3: First one was in La First one was okay, started

1026
00:55:02,159 --> 00:55:06,760
by the three three you know, legendary guys that were yeah,

1027
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,519
hobby icons. It started it nineteen eighty.

1028
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Abe in Vegas says the new vendors are in

1029
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,159
the bullpen probably aka that second four, which is, as

1030
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,760
doctor Jim point out, will be have more dealers. There

1031
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,599
will be more dealer tables at this year's Chicago National,

1032
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,559
so you know, so we'll see. I was thinking that

1033
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,199
the Detroit National was next year, so I was ive

1034
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,119
been enlightened, but I'm sort of looking like I like Chicago,

1035
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,519
but I will say Detroit is drivable for me. So

1036
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:46,280
Chicago is fourteen hours out by car. Detroit is a

1037
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,280
little over five, and that's sort of five or six

1038
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,679
hours now, is guys in my age is like my

1039
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:56,239
driving standing the limit. If it's probably between five and

1040
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,960
seven hours, I will drive. It's past seven, I'm definitely

1041
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:05,199
I probably need fly, you know. But when I was younger, man,

1042
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,719
I could drive for like double digit hours without even clinkling.

1043
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,199
Speaker 1: But not anymore.

1044
00:56:10,519 --> 00:56:14,599
Speaker 2: So, So here's the question for Brody from Avon Vegas

1045
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,679
does Brody at ten other shows throughout the year at Roseman,

1046
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,920
I'm assuming.

1047
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:22,079
Speaker 1: Like Chicago Spectacular. Are you going to those as well?

1048
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I usually try to go to both. They usually

1049
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,400
do one in March and one in November. I usually

1050
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,679
try to go to both of those. They're fun shows too,

1051
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,320
but I mean they're decently sized. They got they got

1052
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,960
a lot of good autograph guests there.

1053
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: It's still are Yeah.

1054
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,599
Speaker 2: Some more tips when it comes to eating, avan Vegas says,

1055
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:42,599
I pack peanut butter and jelly and make sandwiches and

1056
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:45,199
eat those throughout the day and only really have a

1057
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,000
big dinner. So unless it's in the evening, I need

1058
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:49,800
to get my spot for trade night at the Higher.

1059
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,400
So yeah, I'm a snacker. Two Like I said, uh,

1060
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,320
just for lunch Mookie's taking at old school. He keeps

1061
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,840
a bag of eighty seven tops gum hand four when

1062
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:03,239
and you don't have to chew it it is. It

1063
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,280
just sort of disintegrates you wins and I guess it'll

1064
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,119
expand in your stomach and it'll keep you until dinner time.

1065
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,679
Stukso says, I eating good protein breakfast fig bars and

1066
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,079
have a good dinner. So I'm not the only guy

1067
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:21,480
that skips lunch. Apparently it becomes sort of, you know,

1068
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:28,440
the kind of the trend eating food is not skipping lunch. Yeah,

1069
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,639
I don't like skipping lunch. I just do it for

1070
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:33,719
the sake of time. And it's not like I'm not

1071
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,360
eating at all. I'm just eating whether beef jerky or

1072
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,960
granola and that sort. So there's the answer. Disneyland Hotel,

1073
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:45,679
nineteen eighty five. So here's a question, doctor Jim. I

1074
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:50,119
don't know, you know, it's been a bit from Ava Vegas.

1075
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:53,280
He says, is there hotels with easy access to? Thenvention Troit.

1076
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 3: It's a brand new convention center. I've never been to it,

1077
00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:00,440
but I'm sure when they build him they make sure

1078
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,400
there's plenty of hotel stuff around there. But again, John,

1079
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:08,039
don't wait till last minute, like say that I get

1080
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:12,360
my reservations in like October. It's like nine months before

1081
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:16,199
when they release some room. So and Detroit will probably

1082
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:18,679
be well attended as well.

1083
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:20,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

1084
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,079
Speaker 2: Five five balls like me, five hour drive, maybe only

1085
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:25,119
one pit stops.

1086
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: That's where I'm sort of at.

1087
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: And as we kind of wrap up the show here,

1088
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,960
Ray Ray twenty two says, gonna look for some eighty

1089
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,840
four star rookie cards. So I have a list, you know,

1090
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,559
Don't get me wrong, I wind up buying stuff not

1091
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,639
on the list. The list is just sort of a

1092
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:48,320
guideline of stuff I like to acquire. But I think,

1093
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,760
I guess we'll kind of close with this, right. The

1094
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,559
more prepared you are and organize, the less stressful it is.

1095
00:58:55,679 --> 00:59:00,840
And no, less stress usually equals more fun for most

1096
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,920
so uh and so if there's a countdown where it's

1097
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,280
sixty seven days away from this year's National and that

1098
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,840
sneaks up on you, you know, next thing you know,

1099
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,000
you're in your month away and then you start getting brody. Uh,

1100
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:18,559
you know what kind of I didn't really get one,

1101
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,440
especially when it's in Chicago. Because it's in Chicago, do

1102
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:24,800
you I don't want to say take it for granted,

1103
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,039
but are you thinking less about it or not?

1104
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: Necessarily?

1105
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,079
Speaker 5: Well, probably a little less than I would if it

1106
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:33,440
was somewhere else, just because it doesn't like, if it's

1107
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,320
somewhere else, it's more like vacation y kind of in

1108
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,280
my mind, but here it's just kind of like it's

1109
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,039
right over there.

1110
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the venue.

1111
00:59:41,039 --> 00:59:45,079
Speaker 2: The only thing I don't like is is it's not driveable,

1112
00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:47,480
so you know, with flights it it's a little less

1113
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:49,599
money for cards and just towards the uh.

1114
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,159
Speaker 1: You know, I still enjoy it.

1115
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm still going to get some stuff, meet people, go

1116
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:55,519
to dinner, all that fun stuff.

1117
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: Right.

1118
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, I called the super Bowl the Hobby.

1119
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,559
It's just so much entailed there and everyone's there for

1120
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,519
the accompass, probably the most people in the hobby at

1121
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:10,000
one one given time. So I circle that every year.

1122
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:13,519
Those dates, which you're very similar each year works out

1123
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:17,079
for me with my job uh at summer school, so

1124
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,360
it's not during the regular school year. It's easier for

1125
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,519
me to miss a couple of days. Uh, and it's

1126
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:25,960
so uh doctor will kind of go around. We did

1127
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,199
a little bit over time. What's any anything you want

1128
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:32,119
to plug as we get ready say goodbye.

1129
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,039
Speaker 3: No, just like I said, I got I'm hitting the

1130
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,639
Dallas shows every two months. That keeps me in shape

1131
01:00:37,679 --> 01:00:41,239
for for being at the National and I'm really really

1132
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,440
looking forward to at this time. It's going to be great.

1133
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,400
I'll look forward seeing both of you guys for sure,

1134
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,719
and any others.

1135
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:49,159
Speaker 1: And we'll have to look up to Brody.

1136
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:51,639
Speaker 2: I think last year might have been the first year

1137
01:00:51,679 --> 01:00:55,559
that happened, and so I'm sure the difference is even more.

1138
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:58,440
And I'm plus I'm shrinking at the same time, so

1139
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:04,599
that since we'll get you even greater. And Orlando says

1140
01:01:04,679 --> 01:01:09,719
everyone should attend the National at least once Brody. Anything

1141
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,679
you want to plug or you got going.

1142
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,639
Speaker 5: On excited for the National can't wait. And I will

1143
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:18,719
also say prayers to the Bush family. Very sad situation.

1144
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'll do a shameless plug one of

1145
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,719
my next articles for sports Collectors and I guess it's

1146
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,840
talking about the et gate of death in the hobby,

1147
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,280
about when an athlete dies, whether it's in but you know,

1148
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Kyle Busch's case, way too young, or even an old

1149
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:40,159
retired veteran. You know, how do we approach that in

1150
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:42,840
the hobby? What's the unwritten.

1151
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,639
Speaker 1: Rules or the wrong or right way and that sort

1152
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:46,039
of thing.

1153
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: So that'll be something that you'll see in in SCD

1154
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,119
in the coming months.

1155
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,079
Speaker 1: I have a new podcast.

1156
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: It's not found on my Sports Carnation network, it's on

1157
01:01:57,599 --> 01:02:02,800
its own podcast platform. It's covering the Syracuse Mets and

1158
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,480
the New York Mets. It's called from Syracuse to the Show.

1159
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:10,239
I am a press credential member here in Syracuse to

1160
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,320
cover the Syracuse Mets. So I figured, why not. I'm

1161
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,440
a huge baseball guy and a huge sports guy. Why not,

1162
01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:21,800
you know, put my press credential to you. Soon that'll

1163
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,320
be a weekly show. You will not find it where

1164
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,039
you find like Hobby Quickts or Sports Carnation. I wanted

1165
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,079
to kind of keep it because it's not really a

1166
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:31,159
hobby podcast.

1167
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: It's more of a.

1168
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: Just a baseball and an active you know player podcast.

1169
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:39,840
So shameless plug. It's called from Syracuse to the Show.

1170
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:45,360
And episode two will come out this Monday. So you know,

1171
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:51,719
we're past the hours. So thanks gentlemen, be safe, Thank

1172
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,639
you to the chat room.

1173
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: I always say it every time my host. It's not

1174
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,639
lip service.

1175
01:02:56,199 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: You're giving an hour, in this case an hour plus ever,

1176
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,639
your time, whether you're commenting or just listening or watching

1177
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,679
or listening even later on an audio platform. We appreciate

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your time and choosing us and listen. Be more of

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day weekend. Again, take at least a moment to remember

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those that are no longer with us who made that

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ultimate sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: For this.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, you know, be safe. Everyone,

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enjoy the weekend. Take care.

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Speaker 3: Thanks John, Thanks Berdy, thank.

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Speaker 2: You for listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline. Just

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want to remind everyone we are a live show every

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Saturday morning, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific on the

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four Collectors channel on YouTube. That's the number four, the

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word Collectors channel on YouTube. We hope to see many

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of you live on a future Saturday. We have a

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great interactive chat room and we always provide a link

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for anyone that wants to come on the show and

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chop it up with us. So that's a reminder. Every Saturday,

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eleven am eastern eight am Pacific, only four Collectors channel

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on YouTube. Hope to see you on the show.