Speaker 1: All right, good morning.
Speaker 2: It must be Saturday morning because it's another edition of
Hobby Hotline. And I'm joined by two gentlemen, uh really
some of the early ogs of this show. Uh and
longtime members and two guys I really really uh love
being affiliated and calling them friends and uh uh so,
and we'll start with at the top here with doctor Jim.
Speaker 1: Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3: Always good to be here with you, and Brody, especially
you too long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and and Brody, good morning, and and Brody,
we're gonna I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna, I'm
gonna embarrass you right off the bat. I was gonna
do it, do it second. But Brody h recently walked
the stage. He is a high school graduate, so congrats
or in order uh for Brody as he is a
high school graduate. Uh, I graduated about five years ago myself, Brody,
so what no, just a long time ago, but uh,
we'll cool. You posted a video you got to walk
the stage. I know you've you've missed uh a good
portion of your senior year my right with with with
your epilepsy and and but you know, put in the
work right and graduated. So kudos to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 5: It's been a long ride, but we got it done.
But now I'm excited to be with you guys and
talk some sports card.
Speaker 1: There you go. How are you doing, Brody? Before we
get kind of just for no, I know a lot
of people care.
Speaker 4: I'm doing better. You know. It's it's an up and
down road, but I'm doing better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you've done a lot with with your ailment
and bringing awareness to it, so I appreciate it. I'll
put you on the spot one last question before we
get into other stuff, college or or taking a year
off you know, approach there.
Speaker 6: I'll probably go into a local community college and do
like an online thing for the first two years and
then decide what I'm going to do after that, like
go for a master is there if I'll just be working,
we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, Well you're young, you know, you
got time. I know my son even took a gap year.
But you're going right into it and uh, full speed ahead.
So that's uh, that's awesome. Again, congratulations, all right, before
we get into go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: You're not taking a gap year from the hobby, are you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you know that that will never happen.
Speaker 2: Awesome, Well congrats, Uh, you know it was good to
see and you know with everything you've done with and
you've handled it with with nothing but class and grace
and again put into work, right, you know they you
don't graduate from high school without putting in the work.
So kudos to you. Before we get into the nuts
and bolts of our show today as well, it's it's
Memorial Day weekend, and you.
Speaker 1: Know someday sometimes I think we forget you know, you
know the meaning. We think of it as just an
extra day off. I mean not me.
Speaker 2: I come from a family where there's a lot of military,
but Memorial Day, you know, the freedoms to get to
do the hobby, to do shows like this and and
came from the sacrifice, the ultimate sacrifice of our great
men and women of this country. So you know it's Monday,
but I want, you know, with this air and Saturday
before the Monday, want to take a minute, take a
minute this week, if not more than a minute, take
some time and take a out those who are no
longer with us, who gave the ultimate sacrifice so we
can enjoy the things and freedoms that we have and
get to do whatever it might be, cooking on the grail,
sort in your cards, spending time with family, whatever.
Speaker 1: That looks like to you. So thanks to those who
have laid down their lives. All right, with.
Speaker 2: All that graduation Memorial Day, let's get you know, doctor Jim,
you've sort of got a new title with the upcoming
card company called oh Yah.
Speaker 1: I know Jeremy Allen is a part of that.
Speaker 2: I think, CEO, oh if I'm not getting this title
all wrong, just kind of you know, I know you
don't want to spend a ton of time on it,
but you know a lot of people are making comments.
Speaker 1: I forget you being on today. Let's let's go right
to the source.
Speaker 2: What it is, what your role is, and all those detail.
Speaker 3: It's a novel idea, you know that when something happens,
why don't you ask the person what it means. There
was a press release, and before I even get started
on that is that I am so sorry that the
press release, which I agreed to, came out the exact
same day that the Beckett Media logo refresh was announced,
and that was very unfortunate. I wasn't in any way
trying to steal anybody's thunder. In fact, this isn't. I
don't think it's that big a deal. Basically, I'd been
helping these guys for almost five years as a pro
bono consultant, and I help lots of people in the hobby,
and so I'm an informal advisor to many, many companies,
many nonprofits. So I'm so but these guys in particular,
I've met with, you know, a couple times a year
for almost five years, and then this this, when this
year came around, they said, you know, we really need
it would really be helpful if we could say that
you're our advisor. And I said, well, you know, I'm not.
I just I'm happy to help you guys. I help
lots of people. And they said, no, no, no, we really
want you to be advisor. We want to get some
pr value out of that. And I said, well, what
do you want from me? And they said, we don't
want anything different. I said, do you want? You just
want a continuation of meeting, you know, a couple times
a year to do that again, and they said yeah.
And so finally I said, okay, I'll do this. Well,
this is the first time you've ever been an advisor,
I said, no, I've been an advisor many times, but
I can see that you're this company, this, this, and
it's not it's not really I wouldn't call it a
card company. Yes, it has the capability of that, but
it's it's broader than that. So it's it's a technology company.
H and it does involve some cards, and I've just
enjoyed interacting with him about the future aspects of where
the hobby could go. So I it was just a
regular card company, that wouldn't have been as interesting to me.
So I know I've helped him over the last almost
five years, and I look forward to helping the future.
But you know, my I'm wondering if we're going to
talk about this on hobby Hotline for longer than my
advisory responsibility for this month, because I basically I had
a forty five minute conversation last week with the with
the founder, and that may be hit for this month.
So again, it's not no money changing hands. He's a friend,
I believe in what he's doing, and I want to
be helpful and I think it could it could it
could be really good for the hobby. So that's kind
of my rule. I don't help people that I've think
unless I think I'm good of the hobby. So a
lot of fun, a lot of energy, a lot of
new approaches to and I love that. So I enjoyed
working with that. Jeremy is not the COO. He's I
think he's the c CEO, which is the chief off
by a letter off letter, but he's still a c
and but he's a lot of fun. And frankly, how
I met these, in fact, how I met Jeremy a
long time ago, and how I met Scott the founder
was through a one of my favorite employees that left
to start his own thing more maybe twenty five years ago,
but a guy that worked for me for a long
time was very entrepreneurial and when it came time for
him to go off on his own, and he did great. Great.
So I've had a number of people that I hired
that were entrepreneurial that I encouraged to when it was
the time to you know, fly the nest. And so
I met I met Scott and Jeremy through that guy,
and you know, so so that I mean that's it's there.
It's a small hobby, you know, John, and relationships matter,
and so I already had some kind of relationship and
now it's just it's just a little bit formalized. If
it's an hour a month, I'm going to make it
the best hour that month that I can. And it's
basically them calling me usually saying, hey, we've got a
problem with this, we're thinking about this. What do you think?
And uh. And Jeremy's a seasoned hobbyist too, but I'm
I used to I think entrepreneurially. So I'm enjoying it
and they are too.
Speaker 1: Are they Are they based in Dallas?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I mean that's a big deal. My my
proto pro Boto consulting does not involve me chopping out
at my expense. But no, they're they're so they come over.
They've come over a couple of times a year. And
the thing that was different and earlier this year, maybe
January February, they had a dinner where most of their
team were there. Uh, and I said, okay, I'll come
to the dinner. And I was impressed with the rest
of the team, and so the finally said, you know,
it's I shouldn't be withholding you know, I I am
helping you guys. I do believe in what you're doing,
and if it's helpful for me to be listed as
an they have other I'm I'm their third best advisor
they've got. They've got two other super sharp advisors that
they've had. And I met those guys and I thought, well,
you know what this is. This is gonna be a
two way street. I'm gonna enjoy this, and I think
I'm gonna I'm gonna receive a benefit and give a benefit.
So gung ho, there you go.
Speaker 2: Listen if they ask me, they're getting some great insights,
some great experience. Your record is really second to none.
And then you're just a smart guy just across the
board in general, be sites. We're not talking just cards.
So I think they're better off for you.
Speaker 1: It's I know you're act.
Speaker 2: I don't mean this like I already knew you were
active in the hobby, but even more so now with this,
and again they got.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's more so John, I really I
didn't sign up to do more. I just agreed to
declare or make public what I was already doing. So
if they were going to say, we're going to pull
you in and we're gonna pay you this much, and
I said, no, I'm still retired, but I do like
to work on interesting things. And I you know, it's
not about the money, it's about being engaged. So, like
you said, so it's not going to be an increase
in my hours. If it is, then I could, I
guess I could resign. I'm not going to be I'm
not going to.
Speaker 1: Be an advisor.
Speaker 3: You know. I'm enjoying the interaction and I and they're
doing some exciting things. They're doing things that are not
being done and I have a chance to speak into
that and help shape it for the good of the hobby.
So that that's words.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, congratulations for me, Brody. I don't like you know,
I know you've worked. You were the Tops kid, You've
done a lot of stuff with Tops the years that
the national special. Like you said, you're about to you know,
in a little bit you'll be starting your your community
college initially. Is working in the hobby something on the
radar or at this point are you looking like something
else in the sports field or you haven't even thought
about you know, it's not you.
Speaker 1: You got time, but I'll put you on the spot.
Speaker 5: I'll keep it short and sweet. Stay tuned very close.
To something coming out on social media.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned.
Speaker 7: Did Doctor Jim just hire you as Brody? You two
can be an advisor, except you might want to a
fully paid advisor and you'd be terrific. So I hope
people are listening and engaging you.
Speaker 3: That's that'd be cool.
Speaker 2: There you go, So maybe maybe another announcement, uh coming
down the pipe?
Speaker 1: Play?
Speaker 2: All right, good morning to everyone out there. I put
some of the good mornings on the screen while we
were talking. Whether you've said good morning or you're just
in the watching good morning to everyone and that sort
of thing. Yes, Beckett, I know it was in the
chat room. Beckett has a refresh logo for their company.
Speaker 1: You can find it online.
Speaker 2: I didn't put it in my graphics column for this show,
but won't be hard to find. Just google Beckett logo refresh.
It'll come up if you want to see it. Thanks
again everyone for being here this morning. So another kind
of local story for you, Doctor Jim. We'll start off
with this one kind of a feel good story. Right
as we see I put on the screen, this is
the Judge twenty thirteen Bowman chrome, not the auto version,
but the refractor one on one two gentlemen Matt at
the Dallas card show I think last year or twenty
twenty four, and it was a a young man, a
younger man. I don't they didn't give his agent any
of the reports struggling with some disabilities and the dad,
but they were talking about vintage cards, and the dealer
who goes by Texas card Man as his screen name,
made a you know, appointment to go over look at
what they had, and this kind of was just in there,
and you know, along with the vintage cards and the
way the story reads, he kind of said, hey, would
you take twenty five grand for this? And I don't
think the two gentlemen knew exactly what they had for sure,
probably what it took him, but he's like, no, I'm
not going to give that to you. This card's worth
way more than that. And he sort of facilitated getting
the card graded, which you see, I think it's a nine,
and then facilitating the sale, which I believe was heritage
and it went for eight hundred plus thousand dollars, So
a nice windfall for for that family, who, from what
I read and accounts, kind of helped them out tremendously.
That kind of money would help a lot of people
and most people out.
Speaker 1: So just a kind of.
Speaker 2: A cool story about you know, a year a lot
of stories where people get taken or they don't know
they have someone on scrupulous as was sort of the opposite,
doctor Jim. This sort of happened and it wasn't. It
wasn't our brand, Texas card made Texas card, dude. So
we love Brad, we love Brad, but it wasn't him,
and I'm sure what he did the same thing had
had the opportunity arose. Do you know much about the
parties involved or the story or is it you know?
Speaker 3: I heard the story. I heard the story, but first
let me just not let it lie that the logo refresh.
They did come over and show that to me, and
I did approve, not that they needed my approval, but
it was I thought it was nicely done. And Colin Hudson,
the new GM, has been very clear that this is
there on the move in improving not just refreshing the logo,
but refreshing the brand and building back better trust. So
I'm I'm happy about that. So that's a real good
story too. But the Aaron Judge, what with a guy
with this abilities the way I read the story, it
was kind of the dealer said, you know, hey, this
is a great card. Would you take twenty five thousand?
And then the deal And since that has been put
out there, I think the guy the dealer must say,
now you really don't want to do that. You need
to put this up for auction. And he hooked him
up with Heritage and he got a finder's fee or
something from here. Yeah, yeah, he get a But I'm
just saying, but you don't tell the story that you
offered the guy twenty five thousand, unless it was not
in jest, but just kind of you know, not everybody
knows exactly what everything's going to go for. If this
have been in twenty thirteen, could that have been a
twenty five thousand dollars card? Maybe maybe not Okay, but
in twenty twenty six that's a huge card. And so
again all's well, that ends well to give us, And
it just seems like it went to a nice beneficiary
for found money. I mean, this is real money and
it's it's life changing for families. So I love the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brody, any thoughts, I mean, you you know, it's
a crazy card.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be a Yankees fan or a
Judge fan to know the significance of the card here.
Speaker 2: No one really knew where it was right or was
it still in a sealed box somewhere. Now we know,
like it was pulled without the big fanfare, you know,
when it was pulled kind of years later.
Speaker 1: You know, Brody your.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on that, and a dealer right doing the right
thing and like steering the owner of the card in
the right direction so they could get you know, the
most bangprinted buck Pun intended.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I love hearing that the dealer did the right things.
Speaker 5: I feel like you hear a lot of stories and
you just there's sometimes you know, you don't know if
you could trust dealers sometimes that they want to do
something like that. But I mean it's also it's just
a great look at card, Like I'm surprised that got
a nine too, unless there was a scratch or something.
I mean, looks pretty nice.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: The way I read the story too, it said it
was and I don't quote me here guys and chat room,
but the way it made it was written like it
was kind of just in the box. I don't know
if it was in a softly a top loader, both
loose but it didn't specify. But the way it was
sort of tilted, it made me feel like this thing
was just sort of in there with the other vintage cards.
Speaker 4: I mean, and I was loose. That's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, that's what I was thinking when when I
saw the grade. So, you know, it's a it's a
great like you said, Brody, it's a great card, and
nine is a great grade. You know, we we we've
we forget Aaron Judge has been around a bit now and.
Speaker 1: So that card's you know, thirteen years old at this point. Uh.
Speaker 2: But uh, it's just a good story where you know,
people are gonna maybe it's something they didn't.
Speaker 1: Realize they had. Uh, and uh they were selling it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like they were selling a majority, if not all,
their collection, and this will just make that number a
higher figure than they probably ever imagined to help that
family out. Sometimes you hear these stories where it's the opposite.
You know, I didn't know I had this, and this
guy offered me this and took me. But this is
the opposite of that. So doctor Jim, do you know
I think the last name of the dealer is Rolick.
Or I might roll it r r O h r L.
Speaker 1: I do you know the gentleman by any by any chance.
Speaker 3: Or no, not by name?
Speaker 2: I might know good, Okay, all right, I figured i'd
ask just in case and give him a extra plug.
All right, So let's let's go to our next story here. Uh,
you know, from a feel good one too, a not
so feel good one. Well, it recently came up in
the past weeks. I haven't dived in on this myself,
so I figured we take this show having Brody on
as a kid, even.
Speaker 1: Though he's a young adult adult.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, we heard a recent story where a
deal and a show was a registered sex offender, and
it brought up the topic of you know, safety for
kids in the hobby, and you know about doing I've
done shows, I know, doctor Jim, you know, for for
thirty five years now, maybe actually thirty nine. I started
in eighty seven with shows, and you know, I've always
had to most of the times I've had to provide
my tax.
Speaker 1: Number to set up as a dealer.
Speaker 2: But never you know, they're not doing background chucks on
people setting up. But now there's some ground swell about
should we should promoters be doing more due diligence to
who's allowed to set up and you know, be badged
at the show. Does a response? Should it happen and
should the responsibility fall on the promoters? I believe you've
promoted a few shows in your day. I did it
for a year or two way back when in the
ninety you know, it was never on the radar then.
But you know, doctor Jim is someone who attends shows,
has done shows as a dealer promoter them like, what
what do you think here?
Speaker 3: Well, I think when a dealer, I mean a promoter
has a brand. I mean we're seeing consolidation and expansion
among some of the promoters. Kyle Robertson now has the
Dallas card show in New Jersey. Front Row has gone
out of the West into the East. So there's some
national brands and uh, and they ought to be they
ought to be aware of who they're signing up. It
shouldn't be just taking money of anybody who shows up
and says they're already asking do you have Pokemon or
do you have sports cards? And they ought to fill
out an application and ought to give them permission to
do background checks. And that's probably just good business because
they're representing your brand. If something bad were to happen,
it's almost like you're saying, uh, you can trust these
dealers to the best of your knowledge, and so it's
it's not that tough to do that now. But again,
so that's on the promoter side, you know, on the
kids side or the potential victim. You know, there's there's
some Dallas nonprofits and ministries where if you want a
tutor an inner city kid, you know who's you know,
having trouble with reading, and you want to drive to
a bad part of town, you're not allowed to do
that one on one. You can only do you first,
you've got to be vetted, and you've got to do
it two on one. So it's it can't be one
adult with one kid. So I'm just reminded that you know,
in the hobby a lot of times, but if it's
one adult with a bunch of kids, that's different than
you know, So I just think this is such a
relational hobby. But there there there ought to be this
prudence that you know, you're you're you're making good decisions
to not put yourself in a compromising position that goes
for the promoter, for the dealer for the kid. I
guess I'm getting on my soapbox here, but I don't
want to see bad things happen. And there are safeguards,
one of which would be to prohibit dealers, you know,
from setting up. On the other hand, they could still
come in. There's not going to be any background check
for people to walk in, and so, yeah, adults or kids,
anybody ought to be aware that there are occasionally bad
people out there and be you know, have be careful
about getting isolated.
Speaker 2: A couple of comments here, but I want to ask
Brody too, but yank me card Steve says, my understanding
most promoters do have background checks. I don't find that,
but maybe it depends where he is. VVV Shaw says
our Central Texas New York show promoters are not showing
any discretion. They just want table occupied that I did
a show. I don't do it anymore. I did a
show north of here, north to Syracuse, and I'm not
saying the promoter isn't a nice guy. But I didn't
even get asked, and I know others that's set up
at the show.
Speaker 1: They didn't even ask for a tax number.
Speaker 2: Now I have one, which I would have provided upon
but he wasn't even asking for tax numbers. So it
was a pretty safe bet that people were setting up
at the show who weren't even like legal to collect
sales tax and pay tax and shouldn't have really had
a table, uh, to be honest with you, And that's
dangerous because obviously as a promoter, you're responsible for that.
Speaker 1: You that'll fall back on you as well. So you know,
I don't know. Like I'm in teaching, I definitely had
to have a background check.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, I couldn't start like I was hired,
but I couldn't start until that was cleared. So it
actually caused a slight delay in my start date five
years ago. So uh, And obviously working with kids, you know,
there should be background checks.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they cost.
Speaker 2: It is it is anyone out there, like, is it
cost prohibitive where a promoter, you know, if he has
to do forty background checks like that could be unless
you pass that cost on to a prospective dealer wants
to set up to the show. You know, I guess
there are different levels of background check like just going
on Google or just going on to like a sex
offender registry and typing in the name, assuming it's the
real name. Like, I don't know all the details involving
involving that. I only did promotion up shows myself for
probably like fifteen months, and then it was so much
work in hassle. I just said I'd rather just set
up and let someone else do the work again else
in the nine different error. But this stuff's not new,
you know, So all those questions I wonder would cost
and is that a prohibitive? But brody as a kid, right,
I mean, what are your thoughts here? I mean, I mean,
you're you're probably taller than most dealers at this point,
but all joking aside. You know you've been you've been
in the hobby for years, even as a younger kid.
Was it something that you worried about or thought about
or you were just so locked in with cards? And
now as a young adult, right, you know, graduated high school,
what are your thoughts about, you know, keeping the hobby safe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's really that crazy to do
background checks. I mean, you know, if a business owner
hires an employee, they're going to do a background check.
And a promoter is hiring somebody to set up at
their table, you know, hiring for a weekend. So I
don't think it's that crazy to make sure that there's
nothing bad going on. And I think in terms of kids,
I mean, I've.
Speaker 4: Been doing this.
Speaker 1: If anyone in the check.
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, John, let me speak to that a
little bit. I mean number one, just the.
Speaker 1: Prosor yeah, yeah, go ahead, he said.
Speaker 3: As a promoter, you just tea be having an app
that they have to put something down that they can
they could not tell the truth. That happens a lot.
But just in the app, if you're if if the
potential dealer is giving the promoter the saying I agree
to have background check, even that is a deterrent that
some criminals are going to say, I don't. I'm just
not even sign that show. Okay. Now, where the promoter
to do a background check on one person is expensive,
to do a background checks on one hundred is not
okay if you did all your dealers. There's online services
that you can get a subscription. You know, whenever I
go in there, I want to check on somebody. That's
always like they want to charge you fifty bucks, but
then you can get as many as you want or
something like that. I think, and I just want one.
I just want to find out who I'm doing business with.
So yeah, if a dealer, if a promoter made it
a part of their business. There are services that drive
the price way way down for an individual thing because
they're just searching the web. Usually they're not hiring a
PI to track any And like I said, the bad
guys don't like that. If they know they're going to
get a background check, then they just either need to
dress up or move on. And if they're bad guys,
I hope they move on. Well, just just bad guys
want to get the punishment on to fit the crime.
Speaker 5: I would just like to add to like kids for kids,
like be smart, you know obviously with everything, and like
if you're doing social media and stuff like that. I
mean I've been on social media for eight years. Not
many people like even know my last name, so like really,
in general, I think it's just something don't tell strangers
things that they shouldn't know, you know, the obvious things
that you would do that if the random guy came
up to you at the park and asked if you
wanted candy, like you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, a lot of it. Like you just said,
Brodie's common sense, right, you know, like at.
Speaker 2: The shows I set up at as teenagers and they're
usually by themselves, but you know they're older, uh, you know,
more decision making obviously be different. But then you see
younger kids five six seven, some of us other parents
too to be near though, you know, don't let that
five six seven years old just go to the other
side of the room by themselves. The potential not saying anything,
but could happen, Well, it could happen.
Speaker 1: That would happen, but you know, you are like, you know,
just as a dad.
Speaker 2: My son's older now, but even when he was younger,
you know, depending on his age is how far I
let him straight for me as he got older.
Speaker 1: Maybe that that that.
Speaker 2: Square footage number went up as he became a younger
adult and a teenager. So some of its parents and
I see these young kids sort of running around the
show almost unattended and having fun. I don't you know it,
which is good to see, but you know, still sometimes
I'm like, where's mom or dad? Like this kid's very young, uh,
and I don't really see they could be nearby, but
I don't see sort of any any direct supervisions. So always,
you know, as a dad, I always maybe I notice
it more so being a dead But you know, here's
a comment from from Steve here says, as an ex
business owner, BGC services as an annual service charge, which
includes probably so many background checks here. Like you said,
doctor Jim, there are cost effective ways, and especially if
you're a promoter. Now I'm thinking about this, if you're
a promoter who's doing shows on the regular and you
got to pay a one year fee whatever that might be,
I don't know, to do background checks on your dealer.
Speaker 1: They're not be all for that obviously.
Speaker 2: If you're a promoter that's doing one or two shows
a year, you know, might not be as cost effective
as someone who's doing twelve or more if it's a
monthly show. But I do think, you know, doctor Jim,
like you said, some of the it does fall on
the promoters, right, so you know, you know, to have
responsibility for the safety of everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, we see cameras.
Speaker 2: Now at a lot of shows because a lot of
the theft to get capture potential thefts or wrongdoings on video.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's obviously a deterrent to if someone had ill
intentions with children, but you know, if the background checks
are not cost prohibitive, then I'm all form and say
we should be doing them. And as to someone who
sets up at shows by all means, background check me
and everyone else I'm setting up with, if they're not.
Speaker 3: Setting up and you're wandering around. You know, I've in
my podcast several times in the last month, I've made
references to disney World because I'm actually going to disney
World with my grandkids and kids, yeah, in the near future,
not going to say exactly when, but I'm going. And
I've said I'd rather be at a card show than
being at disney World. That's how much I love being
at card shows. But my point now is that it's
it's just as safe to be at a card show
for a kid as it is to be a Disney World.
Bad things can happen at disney World and do and
bad things could happen at card shows and they generally don't.
But you're not unsafe at a card show, but safe
for disney World. And Brody's saying you gotta be smart
as a kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 2: A couple comments too here, guys, and we'll probably move
on here in a minute, Brody Mookie says he heard
your middle name is Danger. I don't know if it's
Orlando or very own. Orlando says some parents. This is
true because I know I know firsthand, right some parents
just dropped their kids off at the card show and
then picked them up later and not good. Yeah, I
think I guess it depends on the age. If they're
a teenager, that's I think that bothers me less. But
if they're like ten, eleven, twelve or even younger than that,
which there's no way that you. Yeah, that that's sort
of that makes me nervous and I wouldn't do it.
My son was always with me like I was there
as someone in the hobby. But if the parents aren't hobbyists,
I think you got to be teenagers to be kind
of dropped off and picked up later.
Speaker 1: File five balls.
Speaker 2: So this is true. Only half the people in the
world have common sense. I agree with that for the
most part. I like to think the numbers higher. Maybe
it is most small local shows. Everyone knows each other.
Club show need to be have be a member, to
have a table. We donate monthly that different charities love
the charitable aspect, and you're getting some Disney World advice here,
doctor Jim taking them on the carousel progress right, it is,
and there's as someone who just went last month to
Disney World myself, it is good. Ac So if you're
in a hot day, there are certain buildings that are
perfect to cool off, kind of refresh, and then get
back out in the hot, hot sun if you will.
That ride is all That thing kind of debuted at
the New York New York World Fair. I think sixty four,
but I could be off my years body. Since the
comment was made about Orlando saying, you know, kids get
dropped off, and I know that's very true, And I'm sure,
what age do you think?
Speaker 1: And maybe you can put yourself in here.
Speaker 2: Could you you take okay to be dropped off and
then just be picked up when you're done.
Speaker 1: What's that age to you?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure like teenager, fourteen, fifteen. But honestly,
like looking at this from a different point of view,
this hobby is the best when you're doing it with
other people. Even if your parents don't. A joint introduced
it to them, and you know, everybody's safer that way.
But honestly, like this hobby is best when we're all
together talking about it. Introduced it to them. There's so
many friendly people in this hobby. There's no reason to
do it by yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great advice. My son is not as active as
me but a little. And I try to get my
wife into it, Brody, No such luck, you know anything.
She supports what I do, but she doesn't want to learn.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: So there's there's confirmation on my year. My memory is
still hanging on for dear life. But yeah, it's the
sixty four World Fare. So that's where the carousel of progress,
uh you know, debuted now at Disney World Helicopter.
Speaker 1: Parents are the worst kids need to learn.
Speaker 2: I know all about as a former varsity high school
baseball coach and varsity high school football coach.
Speaker 1: I know how parents are. And it's funny.
Speaker 2: Some parents can be hands on on so many things
that are probably they need to be less hands on,
and then other areas where they need to be more
hands on, they're not. So again, that's where the you know,
common sense comes in. And Muki reminds us where that
state where that World Fare took place, which was right
across from where she stadium is so and good coming
here from sports girls and he met Mookie in Orlando
at the Strongsville Show. Great people. I second that remark.
And as the Flushing is where yeap where the US
Open tennis is and one of my favorite guys I got,
you know, back in the day, John McEnroe, New Yorker himself.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, doctor Jim.
Speaker 3: Just to pick up on what Brody was saying that
when we go to the National in a couple of
months now, they're going to be some parents with their kids.
And in many of those situations, the parents are going
to grudgingly be there because it's their kids hobby. In
some other cases it's going to be the kids grudgingly
there because it's the parents hobby. The ideal situation, which
makes you not be a helicopter parent is if the
parents are loving it and the kids are loving it
and they're doing it together. That is the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I can tell you, doctor Jim, you know someone
that does shows at least once a month and not
twice a month. Right, I'm seeing more families attending shows
where they're all active and participating.
Speaker 1: That's nice to see. I'm seeing it seems like I'm
seeing more of it.
Speaker 2: Not to say it wasn't there before, but it seems
like it's becoming more of a family tradition, if you will.
And I'm also seeing parents in the situation you brought up,
doctor Jim, where maybe it's the kids more in the hobby.
I am seeing more parents like will ask me questions
or you know this or that that they're taking at
least taking an interest in their kid's interest and trying
to learn more. So that's always that's always refreshing to
see as well. So it's a good segue, dtor Jim
with your comment about the National because put this up here.
We're sixties, yeah, from sixty seven days from the time
of this recording. Uh so a little over two months,
about about nine weeks, if you will, So sixty seven days.
Speaker 1: And you know what, you know what, it just happened.
I didn't even think about.
Speaker 3: You did that on purpose?
Speaker 2: I went, I like to take that much credit, doctor Jim.
I did it just happens. The show today is away
from the Wednesday start of the National, So you know, again, Brody,
it's in your backyard as it is a lot.
Speaker 1: Chicago, you know.
Speaker 2: And I always get asked, is like, especially with people
who know I've been a bit and they haven't or
this is their first one. Like when should you start
like getting ready? And my answer is always the same,
right as soon as as soon as you can. I
know people who are making plans for the next one
the minute.
Speaker 1: The one they're at is over, as early as they can.
Speaker 2: I know some hotels, uh don't open up reservations U
that early. But I think the answer to the easy answers,
the sooner the better.
Speaker 1: For me too. Sometimes I drag my feet on, like
making all those reservation flights if I'm flying in hotel,
I'm a little It's funny the older I get, I've
gotten worse at that and better at other things. But
I always seem to figure it out.
Speaker 2: But one thing I do, and then you know this
about this time, like two to three months from the show,
I kind of slow down my buying of cards. And
what I mean by that is for my personal collection,
like setting up at shows, I might buy inventory that's
for the showcases, but as far as cards for me
like you see all around me. I sort of two
or three months out from the show, I kind of
slow down doing that. With the anticipation to have more
funds with me to buy those kind of cards at
the National. I'll turn this to the chat and to
you guys, doctor Jim and Brody. Do you have any
like traditions lean up in the nashow you do this
when this or or not necessarily go ahead?
Speaker 4: Brady, Well, I think I like all your points too. John.
Speaker 5: I don't really worry about the transportation stuff as much,
just because you know it's a thirty five minute drive.
But I agree with your points on it, I think
especially too. And I mean I think it depends kind
of how you are as a collector. Like when I
go to a show like the National, I know some.
Speaker 4: People and I think you're kind of like this.
Speaker 5: Do you have specific cards that you're kind of looking
for where I'm kind of like, I'm just looking for anything,
and if something pops out of a showcase that I like,
I just grab it. So I think it's kind of
you know, we're seventy days away. I'm gonna say seventy.
We'll round up and say seventy. I think if you're
kind of person that you know I wanted sixty three,
Robertal Clementing, I don't know, you know, look up what
that's worth. You know, get a good idea of what's
a good price. But if you're like me and you
kind of just buy anything, then you know, I'm just
kind of ready for it.
Speaker 1: Doctor Jim. You've been listen.
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, doctor Jim has been to
every national from the first to the last one. And
then schedule for this one. When do you start thinking
about like the next one? Like what are you always
thinking about the day.
Speaker 3: The day after the one before? No, I mean I
get ready. I mean I will say this, John, just
so people know. I get my hotel and air as
soon as possible. They won't let you reserve too early,
but as soon as the as soon as they release
the rooms, I'm first one in as much as I
possibly can, I get the airfare taken care of, and
so I'm set on that. In the meantime, to use
your baseball softball analogy or golf analogy, is it, I'm
getting ready for the big game in Chicago in late July.
And so when I go to the Dallas shows or
richest show in a couple of days, and it's other
shows that I would go to, that's my batting practice,
that's my driving range. I'm staying in shape so that
I can still hit the fastball.
Speaker 2: And so because or you could say you would say
those regular season you could say those are regular season
shows and at the Nationals the world it's like that, Brody,
Does I know it's great for you being it's like
you said, in the backyard thirty five minutes away.
Speaker 1: But do you you know it's again at your backyard.
Speaker 2: Do you like that obviously it's convenience or do you
like it when it's like in other cities too?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: You know, it's obviously nice being right here. You don't
have to worry about as much and then you have
more money to spend at the show because you don't
have to you know, book hotel, all that stuff. But
at the same time, what is this We got like
three years, four years in a row, that essential of
three back of three, Like by this show and probably
definitely by next year, I will probably want to go
somewhere else for it, just because, you know, like to
change it up. Like going from Chicago to Cleveland was
nice seeing a different place. But I mean, you can't
really beat being forty minutes away.
Speaker 3: No, I was ten minutes away from me from getting
to a hair airport. So uh. But still the other
thing I do in preparation, and it really does start
right after I make some notes after last year's National
of you know who, and so I've got to have
a list going into in sixty seven days who I
must see. There's some people there, there's some tables I'm
for sure going to hit, the people I'm definitely gonna see.
And then there's a bunch of other things that i'd
that are stretch goals. I'd like to do this, like
to do that, but the musts. I kind of have
a list of the the who and the where that
I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna have dinner
with certain people. I'm gonna make sure I hit certain
tables on certain days. I'm gonna make sure I stop
in maybe record a podcast with a person or two
so I have some Again, I'm not looking for a
full time job, but I am on the clock when
I am at the National.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great that's a great piece of advice too,
doctor Jim.
Speaker 1: Right there, right.
Speaker 2: Is whether you're there for a cut one day, a
couple of days, the whole shebang, five or six days,
you really do need to sort of have a game plan, like, hey,
I'm gonna you know, and there's events, as you just
pointed out Doctor Jim too after the show. Right, most
of the time, the I always try to catch a
spoiling event, whether it be a you know, usually a
baseball game Chicago, whether it's Wrigley or I still call
Comede park rate seller or whatever, it's who paid the
naming rights.
Speaker 1: But like last year, I went to a White Sox
game at their stadium.
Speaker 2: That's the first time I'm I've been to that stadium
Cleveland when it was there a few years back. I
went to the Guardian where the Guardians by. That was
my first time there as a baseball fan. It's always
cool to see new parks. I think I've been to
probably slightly less than half of them at this point.
I don't know if I'll ever get to all of them,
but it's an opportunity, right, There's so many things to
do during the show obviously post show, but you really
need to.
Speaker 1: Sort of map that out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could fly by the seat
of your pants, but man, it's a lot less stressful
if you sort of have a game plan and things change, right,
someone has to cancel or you know this or that.
I get it, but sort of having some sort of
semblance of a game plan. I know, with Brody, with
you doing a lot of the events for tops bagging
the day, you had to like I know your mom
and dad helped you out, but you had you know,
you knew you had to be here at a certain time.
I had to be here at a certain time, and
obviously you don't want to be late. So being organized
is important. Like you said, Brody, I'm one of those guys.
I'll bring a list of seven to ten cards i'd
like to add to my PC. I know I'm not
gonna number one be able to afford all of them
or number two get all of them. So if I
could put a small debt, two three, four acquisitions out
of that list of ten, to me, that's a successful show.
But I'm probably overorganized other than the fact that I
dragged my feet making my like reservations and all that stuff,
but everything else I'm very organized with So that's a
great tip. And be better than me. You know, it's
funny because my wife, guys will ask me. She doesn't
call it the national she doesn't know. She just calls
it the big show. So she'll say, John, have you
made all your plans for the big show? And you
know the one you know. Usually the answers no, she
was are you going? And if you are, when are
you gonna do that? I'm like, I gotta get go.
So it's usually my wife that like, by asking that
the light bulb goes on, that I get in gear
and do that. It's not that I don't want to
go or it's just that I, for whatever reason, I
dragged my feet, but I use when I when I
get airfare, hotel in a runner car, I'll use like
orbits or Travelocity or Expedia and sort of package it together.
And I've gotten great prices, including people telling me like,
you're paying less for your hotel than than I am.
Speaker 1: And you and I booked it, you know, four months
or five months before you.
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess I've been lucky for dragging
my feet that I'm still getting fairly you know, reasonable
deals if you will.
Speaker 3: The travel challenge in Chicago is not outside the show,
it's inside the show. The layout is really tricky in
the sense it's not a rectangle. It's I've said, it's
kind of like a baseball feed the northwest corner, uh
kind of like home plate. Then you the old old
uh the old school, you know, old guard or between
first and second pace and uh p s A is
out and right field and then there's an upper deck
out there, and the autographs are in center field, and
you know, the singles club is in deep left field.
So it's if you figure out where things are, and
the it's tricky because you can get not dizzy, but
you just get disoriented because the even the even the
numbers of the tables, even that's a little bit tricky.
So and upstairs is going to be way bigger than
it was and spread out, so that's gonna be another
thing to try to handle. So the good part about
Chicago is that it's probably similar to last year. The
bad part is last year was very confusing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see some one national I'll self admit I
get lost, like how do I get out of here?
Speaker 1: Or how do I get over there? Or where's this?
Or where's this kiosk?
Speaker 2: And like and even after a few days, I mean,
I'm a little better by thirty three or four, but
I'm still potentially like getting lost or not you know,
having trouble getting too where I am because like you said,
it's not just a rectangle, it's got some like cut
ins and it goes this way and you go into
one room and like you know, I go to the
other and so yeah, it's it's it's confusing, Brody Bean.
It's your home show in a sense, like is it
you know it like the back of your hand.
Speaker 5: No, I mean I used to back when there wasn't
you know, or like doctor Jib setting up her deck
and all the extra stuff going on.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: I always like the red carpet room because you get
so your feet gets so hurt during the day. Red
carpet room, that's that's the spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: I've taken advantage of that as well. So let's see,
uh the five five boss.
Speaker 3: You know, doctor food is a problem because of the line,
do not have lunch at noon? Have lunch at ten o'clock.
Speaker 1: Here's what I do, doctor Jim, I said that on
my show. I don't. I'm a I'm a lunch skipper.
So I have a backpack.
Speaker 2: I got some granola bars, some beef jerky what do.
Speaker 1: They call it? You know, granola in general, just a
bag of granola.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll eat I'll you know, go over into
a corner and grab a couple peus or whatever.
Speaker 1: You eat that.
Speaker 2: So I skip lunch nine times out of ten. And
then I have we I have plans for dinner somewhere
like every whether it be like a party that's put
on by a company where provided or we make reservations
for those that don't know. We usually do a hobby
hotline dinner where those involved in the show can get together. Uh,
And that's become a tradition. So I don't as you
can see, I don't skip dinner, but I do, believe
it or not, I do skip lunch and just kind
of pick and snack and that sort of thing. And
it just it saves me more time too. If I
was to leave, either leave the National or you know,
take an hour during the National, a full fledged lunch
where you sit down. I just look at that as
like I lost time, and it's already you're already trying
to cover so much in the time you're there.
Speaker 1: And then even when even when.
Speaker 2: It's over, I'm like, I think I missed this section,
or I didn't do this, or I didn't like you said,
or I didn't get to meet this person which I
was hoping to meet in person, So I kind of
skip lunch just with the not that I'm not hungry,
but just for the time factor and I'll just kind
of snack on stuff real quick and then not miss dinner. So, uh,
while I throw that, and here's some comments here, five
five ball says he will go to the next time.
He will go to the nationale next time it comes
to the West coast and listen, I'm on the East coast,
but to be fair.
Speaker 1: They should get one.
Speaker 2: I mean if I was on the West coast, I'd
walk a shot at again. Never been in National, recently
started going to local shows. This is uh, make me
carceive next shows in Phoenix promoted by front Row, which
is a He later on says it's an eight hundred
table show.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big show.
Speaker 2: Sports Sports Girls seventeen also says I've never been to National.
Thinking of doing the Detroit National in twenty twenty eight,
maybe hit a tiger thing too.
Speaker 1: Isn't it next year in Detroit? Or am I wrong?
Speaker 3: The eight No twenty twenty seven is the third year
in Chicago?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: All right, So well, let's let's get let's get way
ahead of ourselves. I mean, what do you it's never
been in Detroit, right, that will be the first time
ever in Detroit.
Speaker 3: Detroit was the second.
Speaker 1: One ever and then hasn't been back since.
Speaker 3: If it did, there's at least that number two, I think,
but I don't know if they had one more after that.
Detroit was one of the major cities of the hobby
back in the seventies, and yeah, not so much now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Orlando says, I don't have a card list. I
just see what catches my eye. But I do play
with friends. Stuke says, I'm a grazier. I shop around.
I shop once around the show and then go back
to key tables. For hidding this, you must have stole
my thunder Scott. This is what I do, or at
least I try to do. I try to like make
the rounds on the floor, take some notes to where
I saw cards I was interested in in their prices,
and then by the second day or sometimes my first
purchase is the second or third day. One year, it
was like not to the fourth I was running out
of time. Five five ball, I'll act. We asked your
expertise here. Jim did the National Star in California, wasn't
it on the East coast?
Speaker 3: First one was in La First one was okay, started
by the three three you know, legendary guys that were yeah,
hobby icons. It started it nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Abe in Vegas says the new vendors are in
the bullpen probably aka that second four, which is, as
doctor Jim point out, will be have more dealers. There
will be more dealer tables at this year's Chicago National,
so you know, so we'll see. I was thinking that
the Detroit National was next year, so I was ive
been enlightened, but I'm sort of looking like I like Chicago,
but I will say Detroit is drivable for me. So
Chicago is fourteen hours out by car. Detroit is a
little over five, and that's sort of five or six
hours now, is guys in my age is like my
driving standing the limit. If it's probably between five and
seven hours, I will drive. It's past seven, I'm definitely
I probably need fly, you know. But when I was younger, man,
I could drive for like double digit hours without even clinkling.
Speaker 1: But not anymore.
Speaker 2: So, So here's the question for Brody from Avon Vegas
does Brody at ten other shows throughout the year at Roseman,
I'm assuming.
Speaker 1: Like Chicago Spectacular. Are you going to those as well?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I usually try to go to both. They usually
do one in March and one in November. I usually
try to go to both of those. They're fun shows too,
but I mean they're decently sized. They got they got
a lot of good autograph guests there.
Speaker 1: It's still are Yeah.
Speaker 2: Some more tips when it comes to eating, avan Vegas says,
I pack peanut butter and jelly and make sandwiches and
eat those throughout the day and only really have a
big dinner. So unless it's in the evening, I need
to get my spot for trade night at the Higher.
So yeah, I'm a snacker. Two Like I said, uh,
just for lunch Mookie's taking at old school. He keeps
a bag of eighty seven tops gum hand four when
and you don't have to chew it it is. It
just sort of disintegrates you wins and I guess it'll
expand in your stomach and it'll keep you until dinner time.
Stukso says, I eating good protein breakfast fig bars and
have a good dinner. So I'm not the only guy
that skips lunch. Apparently it becomes sort of, you know,
the kind of the trend eating food is not skipping lunch. Yeah,
I don't like skipping lunch. I just do it for
the sake of time. And it's not like I'm not
eating at all. I'm just eating whether beef jerky or
granola and that sort. So there's the answer. Disneyland Hotel,
nineteen eighty five. So here's a question, doctor Jim. I
don't know, you know, it's been a bit from Ava Vegas.
He says, is there hotels with easy access to? Thenvention Troit.
Speaker 3: It's a brand new convention center. I've never been to it,
but I'm sure when they build him they make sure
there's plenty of hotel stuff around there. But again, John,
don't wait till last minute, like say that I get
my reservations in like October. It's like nine months before
when they release some room. So and Detroit will probably
be well attended as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Five five balls like me, five hour drive, maybe only
one pit stops.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm sort of at.
Speaker 2: And as we kind of wrap up the show here,
Ray Ray twenty two says, gonna look for some eighty
four star rookie cards. So I have a list, you know,
Don't get me wrong, I wind up buying stuff not
on the list. The list is just sort of a
guideline of stuff I like to acquire. But I think,
I guess we'll kind of close with this, right. The
more prepared you are and organize, the less stressful it is.
And no, less stress usually equals more fun for most
so uh and so if there's a countdown where it's
sixty seven days away from this year's National and that
sneaks up on you, you know, next thing you know,
you're in your month away and then you start getting brody. Uh,
you know what kind of I didn't really get one,
especially when it's in Chicago. Because it's in Chicago, do
you I don't want to say take it for granted,
but are you thinking less about it or not?
Speaker 1: Necessarily?
Speaker 5: Well, probably a little less than I would if it
was somewhere else, just because it doesn't like, if it's
somewhere else, it's more like vacation y kind of in
my mind, but here it's just kind of like it's
right over there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the venue.
Speaker 2: The only thing I don't like is is it's not driveable,
so you know, with flights it it's a little less
money for cards and just towards the uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I still enjoy it.
Speaker 2: I'm still going to get some stuff, meet people, go
to dinner, all that fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, I called the super Bowl the Hobby.
It's just so much entailed there and everyone's there for
the accompass, probably the most people in the hobby at
one one given time. So I circle that every year.
Those dates, which you're very similar each year works out
for me with my job uh at summer school, so
it's not during the regular school year. It's easier for
me to miss a couple of days. Uh, and it's
so uh doctor will kind of go around. We did
a little bit over time. What's any anything you want
to plug as we get ready say goodbye.
Speaker 3: No, just like I said, I got I'm hitting the
Dallas shows every two months. That keeps me in shape
for for being at the National and I'm really really
looking forward to at this time. It's going to be great.
I'll look forward seeing both of you guys for sure,
and any others.
Speaker 1: And we'll have to look up to Brody.
Speaker 2: I think last year might have been the first year
that happened, and so I'm sure the difference is even more.
And I'm plus I'm shrinking at the same time, so
that since we'll get you even greater. And Orlando says
everyone should attend the National at least once Brody. Anything
you want to plug or you got going.
Speaker 5: On excited for the National can't wait. And I will
also say prayers to the Bush family. Very sad situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I'll do a shameless plug one of
my next articles for sports Collectors and I guess it's
talking about the et gate of death in the hobby,
about when an athlete dies, whether it's in but you know,
Kyle Busch's case, way too young, or even an old
retired veteran. You know, how do we approach that in
the hobby? What's the unwritten.
Speaker 1: Rules or the wrong or right way and that sort
of thing.
Speaker 2: So that'll be something that you'll see in in SCD
in the coming months.
Speaker 1: I have a new podcast.
Speaker 2: It's not found on my Sports Carnation network, it's on
its own podcast platform. It's covering the Syracuse Mets and
the New York Mets. It's called from Syracuse to the Show.
I am a press credential member here in Syracuse to
cover the Syracuse Mets. So I figured, why not. I'm
a huge baseball guy and a huge sports guy. Why not,
you know, put my press credential to you. Soon that'll
be a weekly show. You will not find it where
you find like Hobby Quickts or Sports Carnation. I wanted
to kind of keep it because it's not really a
hobby podcast.
Speaker 1: It's more of a.
Speaker 2: Just a baseball and an active you know player podcast.
So shameless plug. It's called from Syracuse to the Show.
And episode two will come out this Monday. So you know,
we're past the hours. So thanks gentlemen, be safe, Thank
you to the chat room.
Speaker 1: I always say it every time my host. It's not
lip service.
Speaker 2: You're giving an hour, in this case an hour plus ever,
your time, whether you're commenting or just listening or watching
or listening even later on an audio platform. We appreciate
your time and choosing us and listen. Be more of
day weekend. Again, take at least a moment to remember
those that are no longer with us who made that
ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 1: For this.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, you know, be safe. Everyone,
enjoy the weekend. Take care.
Speaker 3: Thanks John, Thanks Berdy, thank.
Speaker 2: You for listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline. Just
want to remind everyone we are a live show every
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