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Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Our next guest, one of the best to ever do
Speaker 1: it at the University of Utah. On the basketball side,
Speaker 1: Josh Grant joined us not too long ago, and Josh,
Speaker 1: I've got a lead off with whether or not you
Speaker 1: got as much feedback about your interview on this show
Speaker 1: as I did.
Speaker 2: I actually did get a lot of feedback, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people are really we're really excited about the
Speaker 2: direction of college basketball. But truly, I really appreciate you
Speaker 2: having me back on again so I can kind of
Speaker 2: clear my name from that massacre that came to the
Speaker 2: hands of Britt and Johnson.
Speaker 1: I was I was wondering if you Britt you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Britt, He's tongue in cheek and
Speaker 1: obviously he was being a little bit facetious. But I
Speaker 1: was wondering if you heard Brick go at you a
Speaker 1: little bit, so the floor is yours, Josh go at him?
Speaker 2: How can I not hear that guy? He's so loud. No,
Speaker 2: I mean he's not and talked about how we're such
Speaker 2: good friends. Man, the old adage is of friends like that,
Speaker 2: who needs enemies? But no, he's a character. He's a
Speaker 2: funny guy, and we have been friends. He's been, you know,
Speaker 2: busting my chop since I dated his sister when he
Speaker 2: was about five, and I think he was a BYU
Speaker 2: fan at the time. But no, he's a good guy,
Speaker 2: a good friend. He just has no filter. Even you
Speaker 2: know his brother Jeff as I was texting him, what
Speaker 2: the heck is your brother saying about me? And Jeff
Speaker 2: even said that, you know, he's a loose cannon. Nobody
Speaker 2: can control him, so you just got to take it
Speaker 2: for what it is. He's a goofball. But I do
Speaker 2: have one thing I have to say about him. When
Speaker 2: he was talking about Alex being a coach on the
Speaker 2: floor and how he would grab Britt by the jersey
Speaker 2: and scream in his face, it's not totally because Alex
Speaker 2: is a coach. It's because Alex knew that Britain did
Speaker 2: not even listen to what Coach had just said in
Speaker 2: the time out or in the whole week of preparation,
Speaker 2: and so he was trying to make sure he was
Speaker 2: at the right place at the right time. Britain has
Speaker 2: a little adhd. I think he can't really concentrate that well.
Speaker 1: We got a little ute legend on Nute Legend Crime
Speaker 1: here with Josh Grant and Britton Johnson. But nonetheless, Josh,
Speaker 1: your wish has been granted, and I will give you
Speaker 1: the credit because you were the first guests I had
Speaker 1: on the show who said this job should go to Alex.
Speaker 1: So now that it is official, I just want to
Speaker 1: know your reaction and if you could share with us
Speaker 1: the reaction of people that kind of live in your
Speaker 1: cul de sac, in your community. How are people feel
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 2: I think that first of all, I was so happy
Speaker 2: when I finally heard Okay, it's a done deal. You know,
Speaker 2: there's always going to be some bumps in the road
Speaker 2: and some concerns and things like that, but once I
Speaker 2: heard the contract it's been signed, everything's good. I was
Speaker 2: a static. I think that Alex is going to do
Speaker 2: such a good job. I think he's just such a
Speaker 2: good person and that and that good thoughtful person. He's
Speaker 2: going to be the same way as a coach. He's
Speaker 2: going to get the most out of his players, he's
Speaker 2: going to recruit intelligently, and he's going to build a
Speaker 2: culture here. And I firmly believe that all those things
Speaker 2: that I've just mentioned are in a spreadsheet in his
Speaker 2: head and each one has, you know, each cell is
Speaker 2: filled with an idea of how he thinks it will work.
Speaker 2: He's just very thorough and just very thoughtful, and so
Speaker 2: I'm very pleased. And I think the whole community is
Speaker 2: people that I've talked to, there's just an air in
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City and in Utedom that people are just
Speaker 2: really excited for the first time. I haven't seen people
Speaker 2: this excited for a really long time. I mean it's
Speaker 2: been it's really been twenty years that people as a
Speaker 2: whole have just been really excited about what's going to
Speaker 2: happen and the potential of what is in the future.
Speaker 1: Are you find a little sign of chest thing, Josha
Speaker 1: bear with me. Are you aware of how this process
Speaker 1: went down? Like, do you know if this was Mark's
Speaker 1: one and only target or are you aware of whether
Speaker 1: or not Mark Carlin interviewed multiple candidates before landing on Alex.
Speaker 2: From as I understand it and was told, it was
Speaker 2: you know, the decision was made that we need change
Speaker 2: directions from Craig and that they were they were gonna
Speaker 2: let him go a little bit early, and part of
Speaker 2: the purpose was we need to build a relationship with
Speaker 2: our players, because there's some good players on this team,
Speaker 2: and also they wanted to just jump right on the
Speaker 2: fact that Alex was their number one guy. I believe
Speaker 2: that Mark talked to others, but Mark's whole mission was
Speaker 2: to make sure that Alex knew he was the number
Speaker 2: one guy, and we needed to see what it was
Speaker 2: going to take to get Alex to come, and so
Speaker 2: he may have had some back up just in case,
Speaker 2: but he was going full hearted at Alex and wanted
Speaker 2: to make sure that Alex realized that he was a
Speaker 2: humble choice.
Speaker 1: Any any thoughts or maybe you know whether or not
Speaker 1: Alex was immediately open to this or was this a process.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Dallas liked him. I know his
Speaker 1: wife really very much enjoyed living in Dallas, and I've
Speaker 1: been told that this wasn't something that Alex jumped at
Speaker 1: right away, that it did take some time. But if
Speaker 1: you're aware, can you illuminate us kind of how this
Speaker 1: process went down? Maybe the interest on Alex's side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been talking with Alex oh Man for a
Speaker 2: number of years, and not like daily, but obviously each
Speaker 2: time the season starts getting worse, I'll text him or
Speaker 2: we'll run into each other and I'll just say, are
Speaker 2: you ready to come yet? You're ready to come yet?
Speaker 2: In this situation, I sense in his voice a little
Speaker 2: more enthusiasm and excitement. You know that he was actually considering, like,
Speaker 2: you know what, that might be a really good, good option.
Speaker 2: And then you know, of course, once you start to
Speaker 2: settle down and think, Okay, my family going to be
Speaker 2: okay with this? Do we have good support? What's the
Speaker 2: nil money? Like, what would our plan be? Who's going
Speaker 2: to be our just the behemoth that he now has
Speaker 2: on his shoulders trying to get everything figured out to
Speaker 2: kind of build the culture and the team and the
Speaker 2: structure and everything that he wants. And so I think
Speaker 2: his initial and this is just my opinion, Alex didn't
Speaker 2: tell me. This is my read on it. He was
Speaker 2: excited at the opportunity, for sure, and then maybe the
Speaker 2: weight of all of the things made him step back
Speaker 2: a little bit and say, Okay, before I commit to this,
Speaker 2: we need to make sure we have some clarity on
Speaker 2: a few things. And I think that maybe is what
Speaker 2: took a little bit longer to get everything ironed out.
Speaker 1: So, as I've been talking about ever since the news
Speaker 1: about Craig hit the airwaves, whether it was Alex Jensen,
Speaker 1: whether it was a Josh Jimmy Soto hybrid, whether you
Speaker 1: resurrected Rickmanjaris, no matter who the candidates were, they were
Speaker 1: going to ask Mark and President Randall the same thing,
Speaker 1: and that is what is the economic viability and the
Speaker 1: financial infrastructure of my program, of the basketball program? So
Speaker 1: do you have any insight on where we're at right now?
Speaker 1: Because if you can't write checks, you're not getting talent,
Speaker 1: not in this day and age.
Speaker 2: Josh right, No, it's true. I don't know the insight
Speaker 2: on that necessarily. I just probably have heard the same
Speaker 2: thing that you've heard, that people are excited enough about
Speaker 2: having Alex as the head coach that at least they're
Speaker 2: coming to the table to have discussion. There may be
Speaker 2: some donors who have verbally committed to say, you know what,
Speaker 2: if Alex is here, we're going to get more money.
Speaker 2: I don't have a shore known fact, but I also
Speaker 2: have a belief that this is something that you have
Speaker 2: to build. I don't think somebody's showing up with ten
Speaker 2: million dollars to say, hey, Alex, here, you go, go
Speaker 2: and do it ten million what you want. I think
Speaker 2: he might be a situation where Alex has to kind
Speaker 2: of prove that that he's utilizing the funds effectively and
Speaker 2: that he's putting together a good team with good people.
Speaker 2: And I know that, I know that, you know, Britain
Speaker 2: has some crazy ideas about how it is completely nil
Speaker 2: money and I know a lot of people think that.
Speaker 2: But and this was one of my issues when I
Speaker 2: would hear you say things about former coaches here that
Speaker 2: that we're good coaches. If you can't coach players that
Speaker 2: don't demand high nil money, how are you expected to
Speaker 2: coach players that do demand high nil money. And so
Speaker 2: I think that Alex is a good coach. He's going
Speaker 2: to be a coach, and I think that he's going
Speaker 2: to recruit the proper people and it's it's a little
Speaker 2: bit about the personality. If you look back at Utah
Speaker 2: basketball history, and that's kind of how I always gauge
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that I say, is what
Speaker 2: has happened in history. And you look back at On
Speaker 2: and you look back at Keith and Doleyak, look back
Speaker 2: at Byron Wilson. In my era, they were good people.
Speaker 2: You know, they were raised right, They realized the importance
Speaker 2: of loyalty, They wanted to be coached, They appreciated people
Speaker 2: who appreciated them. And so, yes, you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: pay those guys nil money, but you've got to find
Speaker 2: those good kids first. Don't just throw your money, you know,
Speaker 2: willy nilly, to just go get somebody kind of lived
Speaker 2: by the sword, you die by the sword. And if
Speaker 2: you're gonna just chase after kids who who are demanding
Speaker 2: this high nil money, is that really the culture that
Speaker 2: you want to build here at Utah. And so, yes,
Speaker 2: he's going to have more money from what I understand,
Speaker 2: But I still think that it's just people are just
Speaker 2: barely starting to wake up again to the basketball program.
Speaker 2: They've been asleep for a little while because the program
Speaker 2: just hasn't been so stellar, but I think at least
Speaker 2: their eyes are open and they're very interested to see
Speaker 2: what's going to happen next.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you say that you had take an
Speaker 1: issue with me saying the coaches here in the past
Speaker 1: had been good coaches, genuinely curious.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you're you're too nice and now you know,
Speaker 2: I hope Craig's not listening. Craig was a nice guy,
Speaker 2: but nobody said anything about Larry being a nice guy.
Speaker 2: The attitude of that was Larry didn't coach. And so
Speaker 2: it's a little bit of an unfair comparison when we're
Speaker 2: are we gaging people by their niceness? Are we gaging
Speaker 2: people by their coaching ability? And so you can you
Speaker 2: can see obviously that, you know, we had some disparity
Speaker 2: in how our guy were they prepared well enough when
Speaker 2: they came out on the floor that they had confidence
Speaker 2: in knowing what they were doing. And to me, I
Speaker 2: didn't see that, And you could you could say that
Speaker 2: by you know, Gabe Madson is a great shooter, a
Speaker 2: great shooter, Why was Gate not able to shoot the ball? Well, well,
Speaker 2: they didn't really execute in offensive sets. Did he have
Speaker 2: his feet set? Did he come off a screen. Did
Speaker 2: he set the screen up properly? Was the screen set properly.
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of those things that you know,
Speaker 2: Rick taught me to value and just to notice. And
Speaker 2: so that's why I say, you know, there's a big
Speaker 2: piece of this whole pie that includes good solid teaching
Speaker 2: and expectations and people have to be responsible for things
Speaker 2: that have been taught them, and that's I think what's
Speaker 2: been missing the most last twenty years.
Speaker 1: Well, Josh, I'll tell you this. I have to say
Speaker 1: thank you because I've been doing this nearly twenty years
Speaker 1: and that's the first time anybody has told me that
Speaker 1: I am too nice, Josh, So I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Thank you. You're always very kind, always maybe to a cult.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well you know what, I'll take that feedback.
Speaker 1: I'll take that criticism, and I'll try to be better
Speaker 1: with it. So let's talk about, now, Josh, how you
Speaker 1: would like to see this staff filled out. I've heard
Speaker 1: that they're talking Andre. I'm sure you have inside knowledge
Speaker 1: that most of us do not. But that's only one seat.
Speaker 1: So let's get your thoughts on whether or not you
Speaker 1: think Andrea's high speed head to home, and maybe some
Speaker 1: other thoughts on who you'd like to see city next.
Speaker 2: Alex, Yeah, those are that's a great, great question, Andre.
Speaker 2: I think Andre wants to come. I'm pretty sure of that.
Speaker 2: He may be just trying to get the final parts
Speaker 2: and pieces together so that he'll be comfortable. But I
Speaker 2: hear it's very close. I don't know if the deal
Speaker 2: has been signed, but I hear it's close. And Andre
Speaker 2: will bring such an amazing presence. From a recruiting standpoint,
Speaker 2: I mean, who wouldn't if Andre Miller showed up at
Speaker 2: your front door and you live in LA. Who's not thinking,
Speaker 2: Holy cow, Andre Miller is standing on my doorstep right now,
Speaker 2: and he could actually teach me how to get to
Speaker 2: the NBA. And so I think from a recruiting standpoint,
Speaker 2: it's amazing. Just from his feel for the game is amazing.
Speaker 2: You hear a lot of these pros on these YouTube
Speaker 2: channels and podcasts talk about how Andre Miller was such
Speaker 2: a great mentor to them, and he would ask questions
Speaker 2: just simple like but what do you see here? And
Speaker 2: he wouldn't just tell people stuff, would make them think
Speaker 2: and learn and figure things out for themselves. So I
Speaker 2: think that's that would be an amazing partnership with he
Speaker 2: and al After that, I you know, I don't even know.
Speaker 2: Back in the old days, I think you had three
Speaker 2: coaches and you had one graduate assistant. Nobody else could
Speaker 2: be on the floor. Nowadays, I think I counted like
Speaker 2: what eight ten coaches on the bench the other day.
Speaker 2: So I think you just have to be the number
Speaker 2: one higher or not the number one higher somebody. That's
Speaker 2: really important is getting somebody who can act as your
Speaker 2: general manager. You've got to be able to keep track
Speaker 2: of nil and make sure that values are maintained and
Speaker 2: how much money do you have, and how do we
Speaker 2: kind of put the players together, which is kind of
Speaker 2: new for college basketball. It's more of an NBA thing.
Speaker 2: But I think Alex has got to get somebody in
Speaker 2: that position that would be helpful to him and just
Speaker 2: kind of keep an eye out on him and make
Speaker 2: sure that he doesn't hit any big potholes, you know,
Speaker 2: as as he's kind of figuring all this stuff out.
Speaker 2: So you've got to get get a good general manager
Speaker 2: who understands kind of everything. And then you've got to
Speaker 2: get somebody who can recruit the state of Utah. You
Speaker 2: know Britain again, I can't help it. I got to
Speaker 2: get back at him. It's just a love it room, Bacher, right,
Speaker 2: love it, love it. Britain sat and talked about how
Speaker 2: I was wrong that, you know, you can't build a
Speaker 2: team with Utah players and so on and so on,
Speaker 2: and maybe you can win the Whack and the Mountain,
Speaker 2: but you can't win the Big Twelve. And I don't
Speaker 2: disagree with him, and I never said that. I said
Speaker 2: you have to build a core group of players who
Speaker 2: are from Utah. So I asked, I was talking to
Speaker 2: my friend Ryan Boyak about this, and we look back
Speaker 2: at the championship team. Do you know how many guys
Speaker 2: were on that team from Utah? Pike A guess three?
Speaker 1: Four?
Speaker 2: There were six? Six? Okay, so you've got the two Johnson's,
Speaker 2: You've got Al, You've got Hanson, and then you've got
Speaker 2: the backup center. And then there was another cut kid
Speaker 2: who I can't remember his name. He didn't play a
Speaker 2: whole lot. I think he ended up redshirting because he
Speaker 2: heard himself. But six players, so you've got to be
Speaker 2: able to start to build that that that win of
Speaker 2: shooting the best players in Utah. So you've got to
Speaker 2: have somebody who understands and has relationships or can build
Speaker 2: relationships with the local kids. And then after that, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, you've got to get people who can build
Speaker 2: player or do player development, and who can you know,
Speaker 2: fix people's shots and work on some of the basics
Speaker 2: and things like that. Do I have names for you now?
Speaker 2: I don't. And if they asked, if they asked Britton
Speaker 2: Johnson to come be a coach, don't let him tricky.
Speaker 2: He would drop everything he's doing to come and be
Speaker 2: a coach. He's he's trying to be mister Koy. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and who wouldn't. I mean, it's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: an opportunity of a lifetime really to come in and
Speaker 2: to be able to work here at an alma the
Speaker 2: model that you love, that you have passion for, and
Speaker 2: I think that goes a long way. And that's another
Speaker 2: thing I think has been missing is this passion for
Speaker 2: the University of Utah. And that's another box that Alex checks.
Speaker 2: He loves the University of Utah. He has great feelings
Speaker 2: of his experiences here. So he's gonna he's work a
Speaker 2: little bit harder and maybe have a few more sleepless nights.
Speaker 2: If things don't go well, which I'm not saying they will,
Speaker 2: but it'll still be a challenge for him. He'll just
Speaker 2: he'll be a little more concerned maybe and put a
Speaker 2: little more into it. So yeah, I'm excited as everybody
Speaker 2: else is, just to see who who is gonna come
Speaker 2: and sit around, and who's gonna have input, and who
Speaker 2: will have Alex's here, who will be Alex's Jeff Jutkins,
Speaker 2: you know, like he was to Rick mcgaris. And it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's just exciting, it really is. This is such a
Speaker 2: good time.
Speaker 1: Now at the next Utah basketball great reunion? Are you
Speaker 1: and Britt gonna be good? Are we gonna see some fisticuffs?
Speaker 1: Are Are you guys gonna be all right the next
Speaker 1: time you're together?
Speaker 2: First of all, both of us are so skinny that
Speaker 2: we probably couldn't hurt each other if we actually did
Speaker 2: throw a blow. But no, no, that's just Britain. We've
Speaker 2: known Britain a long time. I'm not gonna hit him,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna hit me. We'll probably just start laughing. Okay, No,
Speaker 2: we're good, We're good, okay, And.
Speaker 1: I would be remiss Josh. If I didn't ask you,
Speaker 1: I would imagine if Alex is interested, you'd be interested
Speaker 1: potentially in talking to him about sitting on that bench.
Speaker 2: Right. Oh. Absolutely, Like I said, it's an opportunity of
Speaker 2: a lifetime. And as I as I've watched this whole
Speaker 2: thing go through, I've asked myself, is this something that
Speaker 2: I would like to do. And you know, sometimes people say, well,
Speaker 2: you haven't been coaching, and I think back, and I
Speaker 2: talked to Jeff Judkins because he had a similar situation
Speaker 2: where he didn't coach for a while. I mean, he
Speaker 2: was just working as an average joe when Rick mccheris
Speaker 2: brought him back. And so I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: there was a time when I had to decide did
Speaker 2: I want to turn left and go into coaching, do
Speaker 2: I turn right and try to get into you know,
Speaker 2: work force America. And just because I decided to go
Speaker 2: right and to work Force America, the information and the
Speaker 2: knowledge that I had learned over my you know, fifteen
Speaker 2: year career or seventeen year career, it didn't just disappear.
Speaker 2: So it's always been in there. And I think it
Speaker 2: would be a lot of fun to just be able
Speaker 2: to help in some way. Whatever that means, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I think that, you know, I do have some
Speaker 2: things to offer for in state kids. I could go
Speaker 2: and tell them how awesome it is to be a
Speaker 2: hometown boy, because really that played such a big part
Speaker 2: of my life, just kind of being here, being an
Speaker 2: East High graduate. So, you know, if it's obviously it's
Speaker 2: up to Alex, but if there's anything I could do
Speaker 2: to help, I'd be more than happy to jump in
Speaker 2: there and do it.
Speaker 1: At the risk of being too nice, you're Josh freaking grants.
Speaker 1: You didn't need to carry a clipboard around for twenty
Speaker 1: years to be able to be qualified. Josh, But let
Speaker 1: me move over here before I set you loose, because
Speaker 1: you referenced and we had Tim McMahon on the show
Speaker 1: who covers the MAVs or ESPN, and Tim reported it
Speaker 1: Alex would finish off the season with the MAVs, but
Speaker 1: MAVs ownership has given him complete carte blanche to go
Speaker 1: start doing what he's doing to lay the found work
Speaker 1: for his new job. And I'm just going to read
Speaker 1: off the names of the players that are eligible to
Speaker 1: come back next year, and then I want to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts and we'll say you lose. So Ezra star
Speaker 1: as a junior and Kanu DAEs. You know, coach eilerd
Speaker 1: played Kanu more minutes than Craig did, and Kana had
Speaker 1: three double doubles in the five games coach Eyler coached.
Speaker 1: So we've got Ezra, We've got Kana Dawes, we got
Speaker 1: Mira Little. We also have Jake Wallen and Mike shrab
Speaker 1: Jams are the main candidates to come back, at least
Speaker 1: on paper. So what do you make of that list
Speaker 1: of names? And who do you think Alex should look
Speaker 1: at to try to get back next year?
Speaker 2: You know, I love all those guys you mentioned. I
Speaker 2: honestly think that you know all this is the difference
Speaker 2: of opinion between me and Coach Smith. But I think
Speaker 2: that you take either one of those point guards and
Speaker 2: then you add the other the other three, and then
Speaker 2: if you have somebody like Caleb Caleb Loner, it was
Speaker 2: such a beast on defense. I think if you started
Speaker 2: those five guys just to kind of set the tone defensively,
Speaker 2: they really will get after it and they would set
Speaker 2: a good tone defensively. And so so I think you
Speaker 2: win some games if you just give them the opportunity
Speaker 2: to just go and get after it. So I do.
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Waleen, I'm a fan of DAWs,
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Ezra. I think Miro's in there
Speaker 2: and he can get in there and compete. He's very athletic,
Speaker 2: and Mike, for his lack of athletic ability is so long.
Speaker 2: I think that makes up for a lot of things.
Speaker 2: So I really believe that Alex should go and try
Speaker 2: to keep all of them because they do kind of understand.
Speaker 2: They played with each other a year. You know, DAWs
Speaker 2: is starting to show what he's capable of if you
Speaker 2: just kind of let him play through and gain some confidence.
Speaker 2: Wlleen is the same thing. He needs to get some
Speaker 2: work with his shot, with his shot and being able
Speaker 2: to maybe have some other options to score. I think
Speaker 2: Mike just needs to get his feet set a little
Speaker 2: bit better when he shoots his jump shot. And Miro,
Speaker 2: you know, he's just an athletic kid. Maybe give him
Speaker 2: a little bit more direction, but make defense the priority
Speaker 2: for him. And I think with those guys right there,
Speaker 2: sure you need a big center or something, but with
Speaker 2: those guys right there, you have a pretty solid team.
Speaker 2: And I just need to build, you know, some some
Speaker 2: good subs.
Speaker 1: Well, Josh, I appreciate the time, and I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to cause problems between you and my guy Britt, so
Speaker 1: hopefully we're gonna be okay, okay. Bottom line is, no
Speaker 1: matter where you're at in the ecosystem, somebody like you
Speaker 1: who's a legend, or somebody like me who covers the program,
Speaker 1: I think this has been a really exciting week and
Speaker 1: I'm pumped to see what's next, my friend, So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for the time.
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you, I really appreciate it. And yeah, Britt
Speaker 2: and I were still buddy, so no worries.
Speaker 1: Ah, Right there we go. The great Josh grat one
Speaker 1: of the best to ever do it at the University
Speaker 1: of Utah.