Speaker 1: Got two bowl games for you on Wednesday, the Cure
Bowl and the Ventures Bowl. If you're looking to make
money bet on either of those, You've come to the
right place. This is the best betting show ever. Plus
we'll be talking some NBA and college hoops. I am
worse Brian Power sitting in for the pres once again.
Last day, doing so, Joe, you got one more day.
But let's go to Art to Caesar here over on
the other side of the counter to tell us how
the money is moving, because we've got some big games
this weekend, obviously in football, NFL Week sixteen, the College
football Playoff, and as I mentioned, two bowl games tonight.
Speaker 2: Art, how are you. Let's hear how that money is moving?
Speaker 3: Yeah, doing good, Brian.
Speaker 4: Obviously the NFL will start there New England ap Baltimore,
obviously a really good game, big important game in the
AFC playoff picture. We opened Baltimore two and a half
total of forty seven. Total's been bet up forty eight,
and we've seen a little bit of stream of money
from the public on Baltimore. Baltimore now three on that game.
Lions Steelers Lions at home. Obviously they are a juggernaut
at home and they're coming off a lost Pittsburgh on
the short week. We open the Lions six. They bet
it there, they bet it at six and a half.
We're now seven. On the game total went up from
fifty and a half to fifty two. Just moved with
the market there on that total. Nothing really sharp to report,
and Brian, you had mentioned it yesterday and you're spot on.
Troit's gonna be huge and all the money line parlays
and the teasers, so we'll really need Pittsburgh in that game.
And then the local team, the Raiders at the Texans.
Look ahead line on this was like eleven and eleven
and a half. It's now fourteen. Total of thirty seven
and a half, and this is gonna be a tough game,
not that you know, people are really gonna come in
and bet this, but I think when we put up
a Raider team total, we'll get hit there. They scored
zero against Philly. It feels impossible that they can score
anything against the Deuxans. So the Raiders are just so
futured right now that, yeah, you might not be a
lot of money line stuff or teaser stuff, even though
there will still be some of that. But I think
that they're gonna look other ways to fade the Raiders,
and I think the team total is gonna be the
big one on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So how does it work art when we get
to this time of year where more and more teams
begin to get eliminated. We just saw Miami do it
right now, They're gonna be going through all sorts of changes. Yeah,
does it effect to handle with some of these Does
the public come in automatically and start fading all of
these teams that have nothing to play for who are
just playing out the string And I know they don't
tank in the NFL. Uh, But you know, how does
the book see as far as the action goes these
last couple of weeks of the season.
Speaker 3: It's a great question.
Speaker 4: And you know, the public's interesting with some of these
games where you might pick two teams that meet, you know,
got nothing going on, nothing's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: You know, they've both been eliminated.
Speaker 4: What really happens is the handle just really goes down
on those games and the public just stays away from
the games they want to come in late in the
season and almost bet on playoff type of games like
a New England in Baltimore games that have meaning not
saying that those games don't get bet but you get
a really low handle on some of those games that
have the two meaningless teams, and they that's really left
for the sharp Bettals guys who really come in and
they you know, they've been riding with their numbers all
year and they're going to find a way to either
better quarterback change or you know, has the coaching team
really given up you know, the old Teddy covers thing
where you're looking at quotes, you know, and all that
type of stuff. So you really start to see those
angles from the sharper betters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned New England Baltimore are that is
the Sunday night game of course flexed into the Sunday
night spots. Baltimore's up to three put you on spot here.
I mean, do we expect you know, obviously the Patriots
they did lose last week, but before that had one
ten in row. Do we expect maybe some sharp public
whatever money coming in on the Patriots. Not that we've
hit three in that game.
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting, we haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 4: And Baltimore despite their seven and seven record, they're still
power rated through the roof. I mean, they still have
a power rating almost like it's the beginning of the
season for them. When as we all remember, when they
lost that heartbreaker to Buffalo, their odds.
Speaker 3: Didn't go up, they went down.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, people still were like, all right,
they had a bad quarter. It's still Baltimore. So Baltimore
is still being treated that way. I know there were
a lot of people who it was a wait and
see approached with New England. Still same thing with you know, Denver,
even though maybe the tides changing a little bit on Denver.
Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Brian.
Speaker 4: I think at some point we will see some guys
that we respect just take the three because I don't know,
I still am a believer of How can you lay
points with Baltimore right now?
Speaker 5: Have you noticed their art? I mean, here we are
heading into like week sixteen. How as you know we
are at one point last year, remember the public was
just cleaning up. It was favorites after favorites, and it
was big favorites. It doesn't feel like it's been like
that most of you know, at least over the last month,
month and a half year. How are the books in
general doing to this point through fifteen weeks, have you
seen have we been hitting home runs for the books
here lately? The public getting crushed?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, the public always has really nice
outcomes early in the season. You know, after about three
or four weeks, that's always when it such to turn
for the public because, as you guys know, the keyed
in guys, the sharp guys, they stick to their numbers,
maybe don't adjust so quickly where the public's just like, oh,
this team's.
Speaker 3: Winning, we're gonna bet blah blah blah, all that type
of stuff. But yeah, I mean it's been a better year.
Speaker 4: For us as far as the public go was because
last year was maybe the best public year ever.
Speaker 3: I mean last year was insane, Yeah, with the public
and the way they hit week in and week out.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's definitely changed a little bit because it
felt like the public was hitting ninety percent last year.
I mean, they would rush us on moneyline parlays. It
was unbelievable. We could never get a favorite to lose.
Speaker 5: YEP.
Speaker 1: A couple of Bowl games tonight are to take the
hard right turn here. Obviously, these Bowl games are getting
more and more unpredictable to handicap. Last night we had
an opt out literally as the coin toss was happening,
and it was, oh, the nation's lead pussure, thank you
very much. Jacksonville State still won though, which was great.
So we've got two Bowl games tonight. What if any
action are we seeing on these two?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and they make them harder to handicap, harder to watch,
and harder to book, you know, our perspective behind the counter.
But Old Dominion South Florida. Early money was on Old
Dominion sharp and plus six. You know, we got to
as low as one and a half on the game.
We're now three on the game. Total is really crashed
on that game. Market has just continued to move towards
the under on that. We opened as high as fifty six,
now sitting fifty one and a half. Lafayette and Delaware
is interesting. Uel Lafayette, it's really only been a half
point move. You know, we had Lafayette minus three, they're
now two and a half. But the total has been
bet up by the sharps fifty nine and a half
up to sixty two on that game. And I did
say I would mention the FCS games, So I'll just
give you a quick little piece on the FCS games.
Illinois State at Villanova. We were three on the opener there,
Illinois State, who's been the darling. They've had all the upsets,
they've taken some money, so they're now catching two in
that game. Villanova a two point home favorite. Remember the
games are played on until we get to a championship game.
They're played on home field of the team who is
the higher seed. And then Montana State was three and
a half, they're now four and a half in that game,
and that is the game where the they're the two
best teams on that side of the bracket, the two
best teams left. That's pretty much being handled like the
de facto championship game. Winner of that will be a big,
big favorite in the final. So a little bit of
fcx FCS action has come in, and as we get
closer to games on Saturday, we will see even more
because I don't think people really realize that these games
are happening, and they wake up Saturday morning, they're in
the sports book and they're.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, there's some playoff games, so they coming in
they battle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you said the handle has been better this
year than maybe in years past, so you're certainly getting
a little bit of action there. As far as last
night the NBA Cup, good game came down to it,
Nicks ended up getting it done. How did the books
do with that? Ultimately, because it is in your backyard,
I'm wondering if you got any late push there with
a big team like the Knicks. And it seemed like
everyone public wise, once san Antonio beat Okac, it's kind
of all we ever heard about heading into that game
last night, and people forgot the Knicks were actually still
playing in that game. How did the books do there?
And are we seeing any sort of action college basketball
wise today as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, as far as the Cup goes show, it definitely
saw a really good action. And you're right when that
spread was, you know, two, two and a half three
in that range. The money that came in on san
Antonio was really all money line stuff. You know, people
were like, hey, let's just take a shot with san
Antonio on the money line obviously, which we normally don't
do until we get to playoffs or we have marquee
matchups during the regular season. We tried to put up
a lot more props for the game because obviously you know,
it is a cup, it's a championship game, all that
type of stuff, So we tried to do that so
we had a little bit more content for the people
as far as that goes.
Speaker 3: You know, the college. This is kind of a smaller
slate today.
Speaker 4: There's really nothing that jumps out sharp wise, overnight wise
to report.
Speaker 3: But I will say this about the Cup.
Speaker 4: I think the interest in it in town feels like
it's there, so I think that's a good thing. I
know that there were talks of maybe they're going to
move it all around now, try different venues, but I
know for us in Vegas, we like having it here.
Speaker 5: Did you get a big sharp push with a first
quarter bet on the next last night? I know there
was some talk where, uh, somebody must have said, I
don't know what happened. Somebody must have mentioned something about
nix in the first quarter? Did were you did you
have to shut the windows down with that bet yesterday?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: No, what happened was we had to shut it the
other way because they started coming in spurs first quarter.
Speaker 5: Yes, that total sense. Yeah, and that would have been
a window yeah, Like they knew the score. Yeah, they
were like, oh, this is a lock.
Speaker 3: We're taking it. Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of crazy the way that happens like that,
I met, I met Nick's full game.
Speaker 5: Joe, Oh, I have no idea what you're talking about,
No idea what you no? Maybe that's the referring to
the parlay of the day. Maybe is that is that
where we're at here? Oh, I think we know how
he did there. I'm fairly sat it are. I think
you and I won our games by a combined one
hundred and forty five points. And that first it was
at first quarter. I can't remember first the first quarters. Yeah, yeah,
I didn't work.
Speaker 1: They're up like, look, they're up by three in the
final minute, we give up a three and that we
follow ten seconds left.
Speaker 4: Come on yeah, come on, yeah, we'll take a push
at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I would have taken it.
Speaker 5: Would I was.
Speaker 1: I would I was holding on for dear life. I
knew I had to come on here and face Joe Niary,
my good friend.
Speaker 5: Round robin of the day. Eric comes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you want me to see. I got a
beauty for you Today's Joe.
Speaker 5: Please tell me wait, I can't all right, let me
just prepare everyone all right, here we go, all right,
here we go?
Speaker 1: Uh so Art, this total has moved this morning, and
based on the matchup, I think this would have to
be sharp money because I don't think the public's bet
in this game.
Speaker 2: Give me the under on Houston. Christian Nichols?
Speaker 5: What who huh?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 5: What game is that?
Speaker 2: Christian Nicols? Is that a high school game? What is
that strolled out?
Speaker 5: I'm still going here. It's it's the oh the extra
extra board because that's yeah, yeah, you've seen a lot
of action on that one. Art Right now, are people
running to the window on this? Let me see nooop?
Still can't find I.
Speaker 4: Will I will say this that Brian's right about those
And in college basketball, totals always moved, you know when
they're really bad by the sharp guys. You know, two, three,
four points, those extra games you see the move six
or eight points? Oh yeah, you see some wild moves
and those extra games with those totals.
Speaker 5: Lobbit's all right, that's I'll take your word for it.
How about it there, Art? How about you? Man? Where
are we going here tonight?
Speaker 4: I'm going Xavier at home against a Cretan team who
has not been that great Xavior on the money line
at home.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 5: I like it? All right, Well, I am going to
go out west and I am going to take Oregon
State at home against sam Houston State. I'll take Oregon
State on the money line. I think they have they
lay in two and a half or three. But yeah,
we'll take them on the money line at home to
get it done against sam Houston State.
Speaker 1: All right, three college basketball plays for your here Wednesday
on the best betting show ever.
Speaker 2: You can go three?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: Otherwise, well, I.
Speaker 1: Myself, Joe, remember so if I get it right, okay,
fade or not, we're going to bring this segment back.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 1: Back to back days we talked about, uh, some teams,
you know, maybe that are kind of falling from the
upper echelon, so to speak. Today, I guess the plan is, Joe,
correct me if I'm wrong. We want to talk about
I say we're gonna.
Speaker 5: Talk is gonna be wrong. They're gonna be wrong.
Speaker 1: Yep, we're going You're not talking about bottom beaters. We're
not talking about the bottom beaters. Okay, are these teams
gonna be corpses or not? Your Miami Dolphins, Joe Vernieri
you're making a court Quinn yours. Yes, I believe you're
seeing time.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Is it over, guys? For the Miami Dolphins? Is it
more sync than swim? If you will, Joe, it.
Speaker 5: Feels like much like the Jets firing their defensive coordinator
a couple of days ago. It feels like, here are
the chairs on the deck of the Titanic, and we're
just mixing them up real quick. Let's just rearrange them
because none of this is going to matter in the
long run. Having said that, I'm wondering Art if that
locker room of the Miami Dolphins really believes Quinn yours
gives him the best shot at winning a game, because
the other choice was Zach Wilson, and we already all
know how that would end up. So, but Quinn yours,
is that really makes Daniels call? Or do you think
that's coming from above just to see whether or not
the third string emergency quarterback for most season is really
does give him the best chance to win this game.
I think they're an absolute dumpster fire. Gotta fade him
from this point on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I totally agree. It's interesting because and I get it,
Zach Wilson's been around, but he still was the number
two overall pick. It was like, maybe you try to
kick the tires on him again, but now you're going
to a seventh round pick or rookie. Obviously, he doesn't
give them the best shot to win. And that feels
to me like it can't be McDaniel's call because to me,
I know, they've had a nice little run here, but
he's still fighting for his job. They were kind of
in the mix here until obviously the Pittsburgh game. So yeah,
it's hard to believe in anything the Dolphins are doing.
You've seen that line shoot up to four and a
half now, I mean, you know, and it probably even
goes higher, you know, as we get closer to game
time here. So Miami is an ultimate fade here.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not buying the Dolphins, but I wanted to
throw another team at art, A team that I mentioned
yesterday that I am buying at least for this week,
A team that is in the bottom.
Speaker 2: Yes, just Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: This is a team that, despite their poor record, they
had been competitive most of the year.
Speaker 2: That was until the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: They run into the you know, arguably the best team
in the league in the Rams and then the hottest
team in the AFC, Houston Texans. Arizona getting points at
home this week against Atlanta art Atlanta is not a
team that wins back to back games, correct me if
I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't think they've done it year.
Speaker 1: So I feel like Arizona for this week only as
a team I would be looking to actually buy despite
their very poor one loss record.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the thing you'll see with Arizona
this week is they'll be popular on teasers. I think
you will see people tease Arizona up over the touchdown
at home. But this is another one of those games
that we had talked about where it's two bottom feeding teams,
the seasons are over or what type of action are
we going to see on this game? This will probably
be one of the lower handled games of the week.
But and I get it. They played the Rams and
they played the Texans. There's no way I.
Speaker 3: Can back Arizona this week.
Speaker 4: I just I think this is a team that is
looking for their season to end, and it ended a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: Ago, So I don't know. Hard for me to put
my money on the Cardinals.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what, I wouldn't be sweating out
any unders with these two teams moving forward. And you know,
look at the fact that Jacoby Brissett and Kirk Cousins
are playing for their next contract guys, So both of
these guys have a big incentive to put up some
points and you know, put some stuff on film here
because both and Cousins likely on different teams next year.
So in those cases, I'd be looking at least to
be betting maybe team totals or something in the total
market with Arizona and Atlanta for that matter, moving forward,
because both those guys their next contract depends on how
they finish out this year.
Speaker 2: I would concur with that for sure. Right, Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5: But I love tonight. That's great, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2: I know you're a year you're a year older, Joe.
You know that's im bortant for you to get your sleep, buddy, yeps.
Speaker 5: Correct, Yes, it's and knowing that you concur is gonna
help me do just that. Just that. Yes, any other
speaking of dumpster fires, any uh anything, any other team
VP that you have found interest in that you think
we can.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about it. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Saints being favored is as bad as
your j E T s Jets. Jets Jets are right now, Jordan,
I I refuse to lay points with New Orleans Saints,
especially more than a field goal.
Speaker 2: I just won't do.
Speaker 5: It is winning contageous. So I mean, it's it's not
like they you know. That's the other thing that worries
me about trying to just fade New Orleans is the
simple fact that he they obviously haven't quit on him
like they are. They're playing.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't want to take the Jets.
I mean, let me clarify there, I'm not taking the Jets.
Speaker 1: I mean, but to Art's point about you know, a
few games He's made this point on more recently Atlanta Arizona,
that's obviously gonna probably be a pretty low handle game
with two when he got two teams in that echelon of.
Speaker 5: The well, yeah, they're both crap playing crap here. But
there seems to be levels of crap here Art with
some of these teams. Like, I mean, I'm looking at
the hand, I mean, how the New Orleans is now
out the four and a half, like come on, like,
but you're playing the Jets and again, you know, winning
them guys are playing hard in New Orleans. I got
to give them credit. And there's a lot of guys
on that team also auditioning for our next season, so
that that's the that's the fine line this time of
year is to try to figure out, all, right, who's
got incentives right art at this time of year, who's
got contracts coming up? All that information is pretty valuable
here when trying to figure out how to bet these
bottom feeders, right, I mean, who's got the biggest motivation
here art to do well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously the Saints these last couple of
weeks have shown they're going to play for Kellam Moore
and obviously won two games in the division, one at home,
one on the road. And I mean obviously it's against
the two teams who are fighting to win that division.
Speaker 3: So give them all the credit in the world.
Speaker 4: And we've talked, you know, at nauseum about how the
Saints have been very sharp this year as far as
these sharp betters have backed the Saints all year. But
despite that line moving up, it's not for us sharp action.
I mean, they haven't wanted to come lay points with
the Saints. They're normally in the mode of let's take
points with the Saints, and there's no one on the
other side now saying, hey, that number is getting too high.
We got to take the Jets. So this might just
be one of those games the sharp stay off of.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you do either, be baby. Is
I know what two teams shut out last week? Right?
Raiders Bengals? Yes, okay, both those teams total garbage. We noticed,
but we also know I think this year alone, the
following game after teams being shut out, I think I
don't know if they've won, but I'm pretty sure they've
cut how much five.
Speaker 1: And five and zero against the number teams coming off
a shutout loss. And that's not just to this year,
trying to if you go back, I think the last
twenty years. I did a video talking about that, it's
sixty seven percent. Wow, nor seven team's coming off of
shutout loss. And yeah, there's only been five instances of
instances of it previous to last week. But we've got
two teams this week. One of them is the aforementioned Raiders,
and woo uh that's that. That's a tough thing, even
for me Joe and you know that. I like to,
you know, talk to people like Art and say, is
no one betting they're harder money on this team?
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'll take them.
Speaker 1: Then the Raiders are that's a difficult bet to make
obviously this week. And the Bengals, you know, usually you
get a team off a shutout loss, they're an underdog.
Speaker 2: Lot of points.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati, as we've mentioned, is taking money and they're a
favorite on the road against quinn Ewers and the Miami.
Speaker 5: Dolphins gonna be interesting. And that now four points I'm
seeing is what Cincinnati is laying on the road. Wow,
is that that is pretty That's a little head scratching
here are we all thinking? By the way, that because
a couple of these teams here coming up, like Minnesota
and the Giants is another one that's interesting. I have
no idea what the Giants are doing continuing. At least
Washington figured out, let's not put the future quarterback in
jeopardy anymore and get them killed and shut him down.
How close are we to Jackson Dart are just being
shut you know, like, what are we playing for here?
Minnesota and the Giants? I get Minnesota, they're trying to
break in a new quarter. But it feels like they're
on a different level than what the Giants are, who
have no idea who the next coach is gonna be.
I'm not rowl In Jackson. Dart put Jamis back in
there and just finish the season and have some fun here.
It feels like the Giants are a team I've got
to look to fade moving forward now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're in limbo.
Speaker 4: Like you said, who knows who the coaches? I mean,
obviously they have found their quarterback. But you know, Dart
might just take himself out of the game by getting
a concussion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he did it last week on the
goal line.
Speaker 4: He missed two plays and then he came back in
and you know, played the fourth down play. But I
mean we might get to a point here where it's like,
all right, he could play this week, but you know,
maybe the last week of the season. We don't need
to risk anything here with Dart because you know, I
think if you're and I'm a Giant fan, I think
if you've seen Dart, you know what you have in him.
You can now just move on to next season, you know,
hopefully secure another top top draft pick. Maybe the top
draft pick, and you know that's the way to move on.
But you're right, I think Minnesota is still just trying
to figure a lot out about JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what are you think of BP? You faked either
of those teams moving forward or backing them.
Speaker 1: I think Dart has been spending a lot of time
in the old Blue Tent Show.
Speaker 2: I think I saw that in every game but two. Ya,
he's had to go to Blue tenth. That's yeah, I
mean run out of bounds, yeah, is what I would do.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: The thing with the Vikings is now last week was
that I was on the Vikings Sunday night against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: That was the time to back them.
Speaker 1: I always feel like the next week after a win
like is not actually like I mean, I don't again,
I think we have a lot of these games right
where I obviously don't want to back the Giants at
this point, but the Vikings after the two kind of performances,
I don't know. There's a reason they're under five hundred
still and it is JJ McCarthy. So I'm not running
to back the Vikings this week like I.
Speaker 2: Was last interesting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh there you go, man, I know, are there
any on Tennessee or we no matter who the quarterback
is for Kansas City guys or is Tennessee, is there
any redeeming value in backing Tennessee moving forward?
Speaker 1: There is one question I want to ask Art before
we let her go real quick, because I'm sure there
are people who are wondering this. Patrick Mahomes. Is he
still number one in terms of an individual player? What
he's worth to the spread? We saw this number obviously reopen,
way way lower than what the look ahead was. I
think it's what about it?
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think right, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's an eight point difference than what
was eleven.
Speaker 5: And a half. Yeah, eleven eleven and a half was
the open.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure we've got some viewers Art who are wondering,
is Mahomes worth more to the spread than any individual
player in the NFL?
Speaker 5: On the road too?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Less? Yeah, on the road.
Speaker 4: And as I mentioned yesterday, Sharps did take Tennessee at
plus four. Now we're seeing the threes. To me, Mahomes
is still in the top two or three. To me,
it's Josh Allen. I think he's the number one.
Speaker 5: Is there any is there any reason to back or
look to back Tennessee art moving outside of Kansas City
because just because the number, is there any redeeming value
with Tennessee, who was again in limbo here trying to
play out the string it with a rookie quarterback that
they're gonna get killed at some point here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think Tennessee wants to play hard though
they don't need the number one pick. They did that
last year. Obviously, they'll probably be a coaching change here.
But even last week, and I know they ended up
getting really killed by San Francisco, but it felt like
they didn't give up in the game. You know, they
couldn't stop San Francisco, but they kept playing hard on
offense score twenty four points. Maybe San Francisco was laying
off a little bit, but it felt like they weren't like,
all right, we're gonna lose thirty five to three and
just go home, like they continue to play. So I
think that's going to be the case their last couple
of games, and this week, despite no Mahomes, this is
their super Bowl.
Speaker 3: They have the.
Speaker 4: Chiefs at home. It's still the Chiefs, it's still the team.
It's been great this last decade. So I think they're
gonna really want to win this game.
Speaker 5: You're back. You like Tennessee here a little bit, Well, you.
Speaker 2: Can't be Tennessee at this number.
Speaker 1: I don't think at least maybe I don't know who
knows he's still in the first quarter.
Speaker 5: What do you think that's out of your alley? Now
we're talking.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: We've we've still got what ninety six hours still kick off.
I could be, I could be talked into a lot
of things. Quite frank.
Speaker 5: Markets are, by the way, I mean, are there any
as far as the future markets go with some of
these teams? Are we starting to see? Because it feels
like we keep flip lying like Buffalo keeps getting love
Baltimore keep you mentioned Baltimore is still power rated. Anybody
taking flyers either to College Football Championship or the NFL
at this point for to win it all because it
feels in the NFL anyway, like it's wide open. And
you got people bitching the moaning on whether Ohio State
should still be the favorite to win it all after
they lost to Indiana, which I find hilarious.
Speaker 4: Well, quickly on the college or higher States still should
be the favorite. But you know, the money that's really
come in on that has already been bet, Like, it's
not right. We're not really seeing people jump into the
future book there. You know, maybe some people who are like, oh,
I just want to have a ticket on Texas Tech
or Miami, but you know they've missed their number, you know,
weeks and weeks ago. As far as the NFL goes,
this is as wide open as I can remember.
Speaker 3: It feels like.
Speaker 4: All these teams in the top three or four seed
wise in both conferences have taken money, even the Eagles
here this last week.
Speaker 3: You know, really, I know.
Speaker 4: People still believe in Seattle, but now you got the Rams.
Okay Adams is herb Phoka got banged up a little bit.
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen there?
Speaker 4: The Eagles still have that team that goes to the
Super Bowl like every other year.
Speaker 3: So you've seen a little bit there.
Speaker 4: And I always say about the AFC New England, who
they've taken a little bit of money.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and say they haven't.
Speaker 4: But Denver people still don't want to bet them, and
it's still the top dogs. And before Kansas City got
knocked out, they were still taking money. So you still
saw the money come in on the Chiefs and obviously
the Bills and obviously the Ravens, and obviously the narrative
with Buffalo here is if they don't make the super
Bowl this year in this AFC, when are they ever making.
Speaker 2: The super Bowl?
Speaker 4: So I think you've really seen that with Buffalo. They
to me are the team that we are going to
have probably the biggest liability on going into the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Going especially with pp who with your flyer be on
if you if you were betting it right now, who
would you take a FLYFC the whole thing, Houston hoton?
Speaker 1: Really, I think with that defense you can stay in
any game with that, I think. Yeah, there's a lot
of questions about the offense, particularly upfront in front of
the line, But I am Houston right now on a
neutral field power Raiders the number one team in the AFC.
Speaker 2: Slightly. I had a Buffalo leader.
Speaker 5: Wow you are let me ask you here? Are just
here that first quarter? Yeah? That's it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Behind me?
Speaker 5: Yeah you go? Holy God, all right, one final one
RT before we get you out of here. Miles Garrett
one sack away from tying the record one and a
half away from getting the record. Does he even get
the Josh Allen? Do you think this week?
Speaker 3: Man? That's a tighten of a matchup between those two guys.
Speaker 5: I will twice he's faced them, and I think he
only has one sack in those two games against Josh.
Speaker 4: I think, like most quarterbacks, he's smart enough to recognize
where Miles Garrett is on the field. But he's also
the one guy who's big enough, fast enough and strong
enough to maybe get away from Garrett.
Speaker 3: So I'll say no, but he won't get the record.
Speaker 5: He will get the record. Does he get it against?
You think he gets it against? What? Do you think
Josh Allen? There? VP? If I was a betting.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't think he's gonna get the record this week.
He'll get there eventually, but not this week.
Speaker 5: I don't think he gets it at Josh all.
Speaker 4: He's not playing Brett Fahr, who's gonna slide for it.
Speaker 5: Yes, don't even bring that up. Yes, I remember that,
ye straight hand, what a chump? And I was gonna
say that was about as cheesy as a guest there.
That's how it was. What else you got going on
over at the West Gates art so we can get
out of here and then have to listen to BP.
He's been prepping for this college basketball rundown since we
stopped the show yesterday. It's like he's got notes, he's
got everything. So what do you got going on over there?
Speaker 2: Rock?
Speaker 3: Listen?
Speaker 4: Obviously it's full season, it's you know, end of the
NFL season, so a lot is happening, a lot of games,
a lot of stuff we're booking day in and day out.
Speaker 3: And listen tomorrow show.
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be great because obviously we're gonna
talk about that huge Thursday night matchup, which I really
look forward to jumping in on. Obviously Rams and Seahawks.
I want to have a lot more to discuss tomorrow
as well.
Speaker 2: Boom there is all right, thank you as always tomorrow
and now here we are again.
Speaker 5: We then part of the show just.
Speaker 2: A few more minutes that it's all over this. You
know this nothing here that's completely I did.
Speaker 1: I did enjoy, by the way, yesterday, as I watched
back on the show, I always id like to evaluate
my performances here on the way to talk to YouTube.
Please guys, if you enjoy what you're seeing, Smash right there.
But you did your credit to you. You did leave
in me calling you an asshole at the end of
the show. I appreciate that's how the show ended, but.
Speaker 5: Really, yes, I don't know how that happened. I don't
know how that would have left in there. Usually I'm
I'm good at eliminating most things value.
Speaker 2: But yes, I thought you were going to cut it off.
All right?
Speaker 1: So is it is it time? Are we doing the
bull bet or is it time for business? It's time
for some business. And by the way, guys, Prez will
be back tomorrow making his long return.
Speaker 2: From the slopes one time. Is you're really pushing your luck? Pres?
We hope you're okay, And thank you Pres for letting
me sit in your chair here and I.
Speaker 1: Host the show with Joe. It's been great. It's been
a lot of great week. It's been all right. Time
for some business, Joe. We did win our first bullpick
last night on Jacksonville State. It was two and one overall.
On Tuesday, did lose the five dollars play, which is
very frustrating. I tweeted about it this morning. Right State
was the wrong side, so to speak, against Miami, Ohio
in college basketball. It's a bet, Joe, though you know
me the way I bet, I'm gonna make it ten
times out of ten. You have a team who was
dead last and luck rating at Ken Palm facing an
undefeated team that was three hundred and sixty fourth in
strength of schedule. It was just three point variants doomed
us in the first half on Right State, but we
did thankfully make it up with not just Jacksonville State
in the bowl, but with Tennessee also as a smaller
play in college hoops overday, they had no problem with
Louisville whatsoever. So two and one overall last night. We
are now sixty seven percent in college football, Joe, going
back to November first, So beyond lookout for those bowl plays,
be on the lookout for my NFL. I've already got
a play up for the big Thursday game that Art
mentioned Seahawks and Rams. It is a four percent best bet.
Not only I hit sixty seven percent in college football
since November one, we're sixty seven percent with NFL all
NFL sides and totals the last five weeks, and eighty
percent in the NBA. Going back to last year's tremendous
playoff run sixteen and four last twenty selections, and I
have a four percent best bet tonight Joe in the association.
Speaker 5: Ooh, exciting stuff there, BP all right, good deal locked
in loaded for two games already in the NFL on
Sunday this week, so those are available over at wager
talk dot com. Will have As a matter of fact,
I think I've got one big college basketball play here tonight,
likely one more and maybe a bowl game or two
their VP. I'm going to start posting up because I
think we have hit the pinnacle of the market and
what we're going to see in some of these pricing.
So now would be the time to pull a trigger
on a couple of these games coming up.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have a bulpick actually for today posted
for free. I went over it last week on wager
Talk today.
Speaker 2: You can check that out WT dot buzz slash PP.
Speaker 1: And I would be remiss if I did not mention
Joe number one in soccer going back to a ple
twenty twenty four. I know you're on Fulham last Saturday
with me, so thank you.
Speaker 5: Very Oh yes, yes, yeah man. When it comes to Boondesliga,
nobody and I mean nobody six one six one ye
two different countries to make a difference, same sport. Yeah,
kicking the ball. All right, let's talk about the college
football bowls, shall we.
Speaker 1: I guess we're each going to offer up a bowl
bet to the people little parameters here, mister and area.
You always set the agenda for the show. How far
in advance? Is this something that's got to be here
in the next forty eight to seventy two hours.
Speaker 5: Any bowl game that you would like to break down
in sixty seconds is all yours, Pete.
Speaker 1: All right, well let's go. You know what, guys, I
hope you have a merry Christmas and everything. But let's
fast forward to the New Mexico Bowl on December twenty seventh.
It's gonna be North Texas taken on San Diego State.
North Texas. Joe. I've mentioned this previously on the Wayge
Talk YouTube. Joe, this is a team that I just
want to fade. I can't imagine they're all that enthused about.
Speaker 2: Being in this bowl. They were one win away from
the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 1: They lose the American Championship Game at Tulane thanks to
five turnovers. They're head coaches leaving. This just seems like
it's gonna be the mother of all flat spots. And
San Diego State Joe, as you know Mountain West team,
they're accustomed to playing in Albuquerque, which is where the
New Mexico Bull takes place. They play you know, New
Mexico every year. So and don't think for a second
if the ASTAC players forgotten the last time they went
to Albuquerque. They lose to New Mexico in the regular
season failure it cost him a spot in the Mountain
West title game. I think San Diego State guys is
ready to roll. I think North Texas doesn't care. Motivation
is so key to handicapping these bowls. So give me
the Aztecs on twelve to twenty seven against North Texas
New Mexico Bull. Like that.
Speaker 5: Like that a lot, Actually, BP, I will probably never
say that again. I'm gonna go to the game tonight
and listen. I really wish this game would have featured
both quarterbacks for Old Dominion and South Florida, but unfortunately
Joseph Colton and Byron Brown not playing also the entire
while the OC and most of the offensive staff also
out for South Florida and they have got a quarterback
that's got a ton of experience. Now, actually he doesn't
have any experience, and I think he has thrown for
forty yards on twenty one pass plays and relief this year.
Gaston Moore is your quarterback for South Florida. That is
not going to work. In the meantime. You also have
a quarterback that does, in fact, for ODU have a
lot of experience and loves to run the ball, which
is why if you can still get fifty threes and
there are some available, take the under in this game
here tonight they will take the air out and they
will be running, running, and running some more with Old
Dominion and South Florida tonight, agree with the move to
the under.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: Two bowl bets, one for tonight, one for the future.
Maybe I don't know if I'll again before Christmas.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: There you have it for me, something to look forward
to in the future. Ten days in advance, Joe, that
game takes place December twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Like it all right? How about the college football basketball party?
College basketball?
Speaker 1: Which is this is always my job here, I guess
when I'm on the show to do so, let's set
that timer and go all right. I already told you guys,
I like the under in Houston Christian Nichols. Now, let's
talk about some games you may actually want to watch.
Saint Francis pa is at number twenty three Florida. Have
you seen the spread for this game, Joe ran Aire,
Florida is laying forty five and a half.
Speaker 2: No, thank you.
Speaker 1: I know Saint Francis is bad, real bad, number three
hundred and sixty one and Ken poond bad. But the
Red Flash have not lost by more than forty one
in any game this season. Now that's not to say
this game is gonna be close.
Speaker 2: It won't be. I think Florida's gonna score.
Speaker 1: It will even with that scrutinized backcourt, Joe, and I
know you follow this. The Gators backcourt, Zavian Lee in particular,
the transfer has really struggled. There's been poor three point
shooting for the Gators, but they've got a massive size
edge in this game. We're talking about a team that's
number four in offensive rebound percentage, so it should be
plenty of second chance opportunities for Todd Golden's team. Saint
Francis has scored at least fifty seven in every game
the season.
Speaker 2: My leen would be towards the over.
Speaker 1: How about a five pm Eastern tip in the Missouri
Valley Northern Iowa against Illinois Chicago. Northern Iowa was good,
best team in the conference, top twenty five defense raiding.
No one's cracked seventy in regulation against the Panthers of
the season. That being said, lank points on the road
can always be tricky. Joe Ranaii even to a u
C team that's dropped four straight. A lot of those
losses for UIC have been close, three of them by
three points or fewer. Northern Iowa doesn't get a lot
offensive rebounds. I would consider taking the points there. Creighton
and Xavier aren't mentioned this one. Creighton stinks this year, guys. Meanwhile,
Richard Patino has seemed to figure out at Xavier. Musketeers
have won at five, have won five in a row.
Speaker 2: Make it six.
Speaker 1: Tonight, Vandy unbeaten laying a big number though at Memphis.
Say what you will about Penny Hardaway, Joe, He's usually
pretty good as a dog. Before they ran into Louisville,
Memphis last time out, they were four to zero catching
points against the spread, so I could only take the
points there. Middle Tennessee needs a win, by the way
against Kennesaw State home game for the Blue Raiders. They've
lost three the previous four. USF's gonna play right in
Alabama's hands by playing fast and shooting a lot of threes,
so Alabama probably names the score there. And then Georgetown Marquettes.
I don't know why Marquette's taking money here. They're two
eating one against the spread off back to back twenty
plus twenty point losses. Georgetown's not been great at the
betting window either. But Ed Cooley he noted he hasn't
beaten you're talking about quotes. Ed Cooley made it a
point to say, we've never I've never beaten Marquette. I
think I would take the points with the hoy.
Speaker 5: Is in that one. I like it. Yeah. Now, Marquette
has been absolutely awful. We've talked about that one, and
I can't figure out why they're taking money either.
Speaker 2: Their PP great job.
Speaker 5: We are like two games, all right, settle down, We've
only got two games here in the NBA, So let's
start with your BP Cleveland Cavaliers, who suck lately, Like
what is going on? With the Cleveland Cavaliers now the
only saving grace here. By the way, they are three
three wins out of their last nine games. That's not
really great. In fact, I believe three out of the
last four at home, and BP has been intended in
attendance in these games. They've been booed like the Cleveland
Cavalier fans are booing this team right now, and well deserved.
Hinko three and six in your last nine, I'd expect
anybody to take you seriously.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: The good news is they're taking on the Chicago Bulls,
who are well, maybe even worse here. They've lost eight
of their last nine games. They just can't seem to
get it going, not only defensively but offensively. These are
two teams struggling right now, which likely means look at
that total, that's total hovering around two forty two to
forty two and a half. I don't know. I mean
Mobley's out, We've got some injury concerns here on Cleveland.
I don't think we're gonna get a whole lot of defense.
It feels like more offense than anything else here. I'd
look at the over in that game tonight and then
You've got Minnesota at home taking on the Memphis Grizzlies,
who I don't know. Look like they're about that. They're
trying to put back to back wins together for the
first time in forever. If I can only remember who
Memphis beat over the Also, yeah, that would have been
the Clippers. That's right. Ja Moran's second game back and
they did get it done. Looks like he'll be available
in this one. But you gotta love what you're seeing
from Minnesota. They have really kicked it in to another
gear now. I think they have won eight of their
last nine games, and they finally learned how to close
games out in the fourth quarter here, which is going
to be pretty important moving forward. It feels like maybe
more points are coming in this one too, to total
two twenty nine and a half two thirty. I like
the over in both these games here tonight beat Pete.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: The over in both?
Speaker 1: Yes, a small NBA card here on Wensday. Things I
believe get going proper.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow in the Association with a full card.
Speaker 1: So there you go, guys, full college basketball rundown, full
NBA runner, Share.
Speaker 2: With us, Why don't you In the comment section.
Speaker 1: What you like tonight, whether it's ooops, the Bowl games,
keep those comments coming. It has again been a joy
to be on this show now the last week or so.
I know you feel the same, Joe and I think
on that. Now, let's close with a very special mail
bag because you know we've covered a lot of this.
You know, we've clarified some things this week. Number one,
this is my real hair. We've been We've been through
important real hair, real hair. Okay, but there seems to
be some consternation in the comments section where people think,
you know, you and I, this vitriol is real. They're like, man,
these guys I hate each other, really, they really hate
each other. So Joe, I would like you just to
do us all a big favor here. Set the record straight. Okay,
you what I we're really good friends when the camera
goes off, aren't we.
Speaker 5: Tell no, no, no that that could not be further
from the truth of BP. In fact, honestly, you, you
and I have uh yeah, we we don't really see
I I, although I do think you're number one in
a lot of categories, uh BP, but friends, Yeah, that's
using it a little bit loosely. But I do appreciate
you taking the time to hang out here with us.
That's got to count for something, right, I mean, that's
got to be the appreciation level somewhere along those lines.
But friends, Yeah, Well, just couldn't find anybody that could
replace the Pres when he is off skiing, and that
had that same level of what's the what's the crudy?
Tell what what? What is that I'm I'm looking you
know that has that same No, no, no, that's that's
a strong word. It's doucheiness. That's the word I was
looking for. Yes, has that same level of douching. This there,
but uh yeah, I think we found it with you, though,
And it's been a pleasure. I've enjoyed every minute this
week with you, every minute. That's harsh, man, That is
a little it was.
Speaker 2: It was a little harsh. I should have expected.
Speaker 5: We can't. We love Brian, don't you guys? Get your
we go? I love BP. Yes we do now we do?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, all right?
Speaker 1: Quote the once popular the show Game of Thrones, Joe,
I believe my watch has ended here now. I will
be back at some point, but it will not be tomorrow.
As the Pres again returns A nice Thursday night football
game they'll be talking about. Of course, you guys can
catch me all over Wait, you're talking channel and of
course WT dot buzz slash PP is where to find
all of my premium selections than yes, very much.
Speaker 5: We'll get it PP. It's been a pleasure, really is we.
Let's do it again sometimes.
Speaker 2: You too, Joe. It's great, no one else.
Speaker 5: Let's catch those tickets tickets one