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Speaker 1: You were listening to Petlifradio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon to everybody out there. Are my mentous day.

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It is our first show of twenty fourteen. I can't

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believe it's fourteen already. Here we are, January second, and

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here in for me, sorry to say this, sunny southern California,

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eighty degrees seventy five of the beat blue skies. And

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for those of you who are not enjoying such amazing weather. Sorry,

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but anyway, no, it's great, and I hope you all

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had a good, safe New Year. It is you know,

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it's amazing to me. Was just talking about this before

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the show, how different people like to bring in New

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Years different ways. And I guess people get thrills of

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doing certain things that others might not find so thrilling.

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I am one of those others that don't find it thrilling.

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I certainly hope that you don't have this element or

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this I guess low mentality in your neighborhoods. But my

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staff here at the hospital, they wanted to try to

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get out a little early on Tuesday afternoon for New

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Year's I said, you know, guys, Christmas Eve, yes, religious holiday,

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we like to close early you get home to your families, etc.

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But New Year's Eve, you're not going to start going

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out and partying. I know this to at least eight

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nine o'clock, so we can close to the regular time.

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Their concern, however, it wasn't that they are going to

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get home before and have enough time to do their

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New Year's Eve partying. But it was. And I never

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even heard this before, and I'm in shock that it happens,

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and it does, and it's confirmed by the news. But

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some of these kids get their thrills as the sun

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is setting, it's starting to get dark. We're not talking fireworks,

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well quite literally fireworks shooting guns, real live ammunition up

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into the air and not realizing that what goes up

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must come down, and those bullets and it could be

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a while later, are coming down with such amazing speed,

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just the good old formula of acceleration nine point eight

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meters per second every second. It speeds up in nine

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point eight meters a second, so you know you're looking

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at every second and a lot of meters up there.

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That thing is coming down pretty fast and it can

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hurt someone. And there were one or two people in

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the news that were hit with these stray bullets. It's

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bizarre to me, certainly not the way I think most

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of us should be spending on New Years, but unfortunately

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does happen. I hope that people in your neighborhoods are

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much more sane, much smarter, because unfortunately we hear in

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LA cannot claim that all of our co residents are

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that smart. Anyway, I hope it was safe. Though. As

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I was thinking through the holidays and this last week especially,

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I was wondering, how many of you and I really

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want to hear from you, and you can call us

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very easily eight seven seven three eight five eight eight

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eight to two. Don't be embarrassed, don't be shy. I

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think it's it would be great to share experiences. Now.

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You can also send me a quick email to DRGF.

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That's doctor Jeff at petlifradio dot com. We are wondering,

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I am wondering just what is a status in your

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communities with regards to pet stores. And I'm talking the

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mall type of pet store that typically sells these cute,

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adorable little puppiesitting in that window, many of the purchases

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of which are impulse and how many really seem to

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think about where these puppies come from. Now in Los Angeles,

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very interesting and I know that many municipalities, many cities,

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have followed suit. These stores are banned stores that purchase

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their dogs from those poorly reputed puppy mills. These are

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these large scale multi breed breeding operations, usually in the

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Midwest or in the South. They have been now outlawed

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in Los Angeles and now hear that many cities as well.

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And I would love to hear in your cities, in

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your communities, in your state. Eight what the laws, what

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the rules are about these pet stores? Are they still

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in operation? Are they still getting their dogs from these

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puppy mills or these large scale breeding operations? And mind you,

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mind you. People will tell me, oh no, no, this

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isn't a five miili, this is USDA approof. Let me

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tell you some USDA means nothing. Anybody can get a

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USD license. That means it doesn't mean a thing that

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you can apply for it. They come out, they look

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at as long as you have whatever the minimum standard,

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you can say yes you are USDA accredited. It doesn't

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mean a whole lot. And as a thank you, since

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If you will come in and send us an email,

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call us live at eight seven seven three eight five

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eight eight eight two, join us here in the show

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even ask a question not related to this, but we'd

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love to hear from you. We will send out to you.

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So yes, send me some info or give us a call,

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don't be bashful. What the way it worked here in

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la Is There was a movement some years ago to

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actually take these quote unquote pet stores, and some of

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them are very highly or were highly visible mall type

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stores that were very successful selling a lot of product

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as well, but selling live puppies. And instead of selling

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live puppies purchased from the puppy mills in the Midwest,

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the stores would comb the shelters, make sort of cooperative

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efforts along with many of the breed rescue groups, and

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sell those puppies from their stores so they would clean

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them up, give them their vaccines. They would usually finish

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the vaccine series and that was part of the purchase,

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make sure they were all spade neotered. So from the

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ultimate purchaser, from the consumer perspective, they were getting well vaccinated,

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spade neotered, healthy puppies. And from the pet stores perspective,

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they were able to fill that need, the void for

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the consumer, yet not getting them from these large scale

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reading operations, but rather from a rescue group or a shelter,

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thus saving a life, because one must realize unless you

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are in an area that can support what we call

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no kill shelters, it's always a huge problem. And these

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no kill shelters are a godsend, and these rescue groups

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are a godsend. And it's amazing that I see dogs

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or cats, but dogs especially coming from these quote unquote

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breed rescues. And these rescues pretty much will go out

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look for that particular breed and they may not have papers.

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That's okay, you may don't need papers. These dogs are

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all spade nooter. As I say, to anybody who thinks

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they want to share the birthing experience with their kids

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or their family, go rent the video. It's not that dynamic.

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And the truth of the matter is that they want

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peace and quiet. They want privacy, and so it doesn't

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even help when you have all these people around watching.

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So go rent the video. But I say kind of

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half in joking, but it's true that if you are

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even thinking of getting involved in the world of breeding

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is go find and rent the movie. Find it on

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Netflix or something Best in Show. It's kind of a parody,

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but it is real and the characters that are portrayed

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in this movie, it's exactly how they are in real life.

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And it's something that I really don't think that you

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want to kind of get involved with these kinds of people.

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They're pretty bizarre group of people, and yet they are committed.

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They are you know, extremely extremely caring. They have these

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big hearts, but they live, breathe, eat, sleep, their dogs

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or their cats, and they are into this show world,

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a world that most of us, but the normal person

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who has a family, who has a job, can actually

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come that much time and money by the way to

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these breeding operations. It's a major, major time and financial commitment.

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If you want to show your dog. Most people that

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when they realize what goes into it will pass. Now

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also know that if you have a dog that you're

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thinking of breeding, and you don't want to get into

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this world. I mean, you won't be able to bread

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with anybody. Because anybody who's still in this day and

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age is really interested in breeding a dog. They themselves

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are only wanting dogs that are proven champions, dogs that

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themselves have gone through all of the dog shows and

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the competitions, and they're accumulating their championship points and otherwise

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they don't want to waste. Anybody doesn't want to waste

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a breeding, for especially a female, but even for a

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male if it's not going to add or enhance the

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value and the reputation of the breeder. So they're going

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to pass on your dog anyway, So think about it.

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There's no reason to so. But these breed rescue groups

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and these pet stores that are combing the rescue groups,

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combing the shelters for these adorable dogs, it's perfect. And

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let's face it, you go to a pet store right

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now and one that is still selling these They are cute,

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don't get me wrong, but one can't guarantee really their

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health status and certainly not the conditions from which they

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were bred. And it's often extremely frightening. But if you

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want it, let's say didn't want little puppy. You don't

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want to go through the puppy stage. You don't want

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to go through the house training. You know, you have

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a little teeny kid. You want something that's a little

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easier to manage right off the battom. And let's face it,

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those first few months when you have a brand new puppy,

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they're tough. That's like having a brand new baby. So

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people want to sometimes adopt or purchase whatever. A dog

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gets a little bit older, maybe more seasoned, maybe already

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house trained, maybe already trained. Then you won't get that

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unless you go to one of these newer style pet stores,

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or from a breed rescue group, or from the shelter.

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And I'm telling you there are great ones out there,

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and these shelters really do a wonderful job. Trust me.

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Shelter personnel do not want to put these dogs to sleep.

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They will do anything in their power to try to

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save them, especially if they think the dog or puppy

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is adoptable. Anyway, some food for thought I want to

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hear from you. Eight seven seven three eight five eight

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eight eight two. We're just got to take a break.

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Bets with Doctor Jeff and I understand we have a caller.

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Is a caller still on the air. We lost our

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call caller. If you give us a call back here

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at eight seven seven three eight five eight eight eight two,

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we definitely want to talk to you, hear from you.

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And we are just finishing up with just a discussion

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about municipalities pet stores who are purchasing dogs from these

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puppy mills. And I had a terrible name for them,

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but unfortunately that's kind of what they are. Call it

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what you will, large scale multi breed reading operations. Most

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reputable breeders will not be breeding five different breeds, maybe

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two different breeds, but not multiple breeds. So as soon

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as you know that a dog is coming from an

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operation that has you can buy your anything from your

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Irish wolf found down to your chihuahua. Chances are it's

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a puppy milk. So I think the callers back on

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the air, Hello, are you there with us? Hi? How

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are you fine? How are you? Here's this happy new

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year to you?

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Speaker 7: So experience my question, doctor Jess.

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Speaker 8: I have dogs that love to bark all the time.

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Sometimes that's nothing. What suggestions do you have?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Well, first of all, are they doing it just

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as bad when you're home with them or only when

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you're gone?

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Speaker 8: Usually when I'm gone?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So the reason I ask is there are two

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types of correction that we can use, and when you're

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there with them. I don't know if you've ever heard

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of the penny can. Okay, okay, shaking right right? And

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the whole idea is not to freak them, or the

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whole idea is that it's a distraction. Did you shake

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that can? The noise it's making is a distraction. And

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then typically what I would recommend doing is when they

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hear the distraction, you call them over to you and

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you ask them to sit and give them a treat,

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and then pretty soon the association will be that that

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noise from the can means a treat, so you don't

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have to call them anymore. All you do is they

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hear the noise and they come running to you, and

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now you have them under your control. But that's when

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they're barking when you're there. So what happens when you're not.

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One of the best safest ways to prevent the barking, well,

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if you have neighbors that are good neighbors that adore

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you and your dogs, you can work with your dogs

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at home with the penny can and then have your

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neighbors shake a can from across the fence or whatever.

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That's a good way. Now, when that's not possible, or

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you live in an apartment or you're getting complaints, you

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need to resort to some kind of remote correction, and

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that usually will be in the form of a collar.

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There are many types of collars out of the market,

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most of which I am very unenamored with, and those

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are the ones that will provide some sort of shock.

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I like to call it an electrical impulse collar. But

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nonetheless it does give them a little bit of an

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electric impulse, and I prefer using those only in association

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with a certified trainer, a trainer who is very comfortable,

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very familiar, because unfortunately, I've seen those backfire where the

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dog barks and they get the zapp and now they're

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mad that they got the little zapp, so they bark more.

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really will escalate into a dog that's ready to kill

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the next person or a thing, or your other dog

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that it sees. So I'm not a huge fan. There is, however,

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a collar that I do like. It's been certified by

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all of the humane groups, and it is the citronella

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collar you familiar with that ye keeps thugs away? Yes, okay,

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so that's true. So citronella. It comes from citrus fruit

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and it's a very very very strong smelling, strong, bitter

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tasting spray. What happens is this when a dog barks

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and it's wearing a citronella collar and the citch anela

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collar is adjusted properly that it will hit all of

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the dog's senses to distract them. First of all, it's

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going to spray them. They're going to smell the spray.

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the spray, they're going to hear the sprayer, and they're

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going to see the mist in front of their face.

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So it hits all of the five senses, all right,

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see it, feel it, taste it, smell it, and whichever

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one I miss and hear it. So what happens is

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it's going to distract them, and they hate the taste

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so much they will immediately put together, Oh my god,

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every time I bark, I get this spray in the face,

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I feel it against my chin, I smell it. I

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ate the smell, I ate the taste. I don't like

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seeing it. I don't like hearing the wish sound. So

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they stop barking. And when it's that work, yeah, and

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it's really good. And what's about it is that once

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the dog is totally primed to the collar, that and

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I've seen this work. It blows my mind that you

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don't even have to have it filled anymore. You don't

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have to turn it on anymore. All you have to

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do is before you leave the house, put the collar

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on the dog. And in their mind, they don't know

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it's not going to work. They just don't want to bark,

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but it is. It's very safe. Because they've become so

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popular and they're more and more on the market. Right now,

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they've come down in price. You can probably pick one

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up for under one hundred bucks. I think it's one

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of the market for like fifty bucks. Of course, you

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want to get one that's good quality that's going to

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last a while, but you have to obviously fill it

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good buy citronella spray you feel it like you want

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to abut tant a lighter and they're great, and your

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chains the batteries is needed. That's what I would do,

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only because they're safe, they're effective, and it's something that's

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going to provide the correction even in your absence.

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Speaker 4: What a great idea.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: So while I have you on the phone, are you

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do you know anything about in your area? We were

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talking earlier about the pet stores. Are there still mall

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related multi pet stores that are selling all these two

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little puppies in the window in your town's or city?

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Speaker 7: You know, I haven't seen many of those.

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Speaker 2: Where do you live in South Florida? Okay? So I

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mean i'd be curious only because we see a lot.

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I mean every major mall here in LA used to

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have a pet store, and now the only pet stores

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we see now because they've been outlawed, are the ones

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that are selling rescue dogs, selling shelter dogs, selling breed

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rescue group dogs. They're very popular and it's certainly I think,

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a nicer way to go. So anyway, try to sit

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Chranella callar. We'd love you to get back to us

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and kind of let me know how things are working out.

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, thank you, and any other suggestions

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out there again for you listeners, anyone who's tried any

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technique to eliminate the uh barking in your pets, And

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it's important to know that you want to look for

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correction when you're there and when you're not there. I

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think we have another caller on the phone. Hello, are

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you there? Yeah? Hello, hear me, I can hear you now?

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Who's this? How you doing good? Good?

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Speaker 8: I have a question of how my dog I have

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a boy. I guess it's like an uneer doorsal something

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like pushing her back like beard. It's like really sensitive there.

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I can't tell if that's like like a sweet spot

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for her, like she has to be pat there. But

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a lot of times, like scratches will just let drop

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the floor, you know, like it's so hyper sensitive. I

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don't know if that's like a rash or I can

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figure out what it is exactly.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask a question first of all, does it

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just to look at the area, don't touch it yet,

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but just to look at the area. Does it look irritated?

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Is her hair loss? Is the skin red and inflame?

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Or does it look totally normal?

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Speaker 8: There's no hair loss, but you know she's a dark

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haired dog, so it's hard to see. I guess it's

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hard to see her skin. I can't tell if it's

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irritated or not.

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Speaker 2: Because what you can do is it gently. Two things

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come to mind, and you kind of hit the first

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one on that head, and that is something skin related,

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And what I would recommend doing is gently, you know,

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take it like you stand behind her and you kind

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of pull the hair backwards against the grain. And why

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you're doing it, You're carefully looking at the skin itself.

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Is there debris? Is it red and flamed? Are you

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feeling scabs or irritation? And if so, then there's a

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more likely than not the problem is going to be

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skin related. And back there and if you know calling,

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you know certain parts of the country, they're still enjoying

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very good weather. Back there, you could have still be

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having flea problems. And that's certainly possibilities. I don't know.

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If you ever see her whip around that neck, that

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head and start like little chiseling away at her skin

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with her teeth, then that's a high likelihood of some

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sort of flea problem or just the secondary issue of

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maybe a skin infection. Now, the other thing that you

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want to check for and how old is she?

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Speaker 8: By the way, she's three three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unlikely at free to have this problem, but it's

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certainly possible. There is a spinal skeletal problem that many

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dogs have that also you can barely touch them right

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above the base of the tail, and truly they'll drop

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into a sit in a second. And that is a

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lumbo sacral instability. The late term is cauta equina syndrome

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where the last lumbar vertebrae as it meets up with

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the first saco vertebrae. They call it LS and people

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it's L five S one because people only have five

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lumbar vertebrate. Dogs have seven so it'll be L seven

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S one and there's too much movement, too much laxity

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in that area when they put themselves into certain positions,

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and the area becomes very sensitive because some of the

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nerves as they exit the spinal cord at the LS

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region are getting pinched by the vertible movement. And these

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dogs are extremely sensitive. You can even have a nice

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dog that if you touch hard enough, might even turn

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around to try to bite you. But that's a skeletal

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problem and that can be diagnosed via X ray. And

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what we do is we take a lateral X ray

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and we put the legs in three positions. Number one,

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we tuck the legs all the way underneath them. We

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put them in a natural normal resting position, and then

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we take the legs and pull them all the way back.

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That's the position and that usually hurts them the most.

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And then you compare the three positions and you can

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see how much movement is taking place at the LS junction.

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likely that's the problem. Usually you treat it medically, sometimes

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rarely surgically. Mostly it's a medical treatment. But in a

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three year old dog, if you are seeing and feeling

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maybe some skin out remlodies. I would shoot for the

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skin issues number one, and then if everything checks out fine,

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then I would take her in have her X ray

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and see if you can identify any type of lumbo

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sacral movement or laxity and go from there, and then

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of course get back stay on afterwards, give your information

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to our producer Mark. They'll send it on to us

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and we'll send you out maybe a nice vitamin or

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a glucosamine supplement for her, and start her on some

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good glucosamine that'll help her anyway from her spine. Okay,

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thank you very much, thank you, thank you, thanks for

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the call. O' bye anyway, that was you see how

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easy and painless that is to give us a call,

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more callers there? I think that's it. So let's see.

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I can't believe it's that time already, So it's time

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to say goodbye. It's time to tell you that we

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will see you back here next week on Thursday, one

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you who are football fans. You got another bowl game tonight,

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and another bowl game tomorrow night, and then the big

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one Monday night, so right, which is the big number one.

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So we still got we still got two left the

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Aren't Bowl in the Sugar Bowl. And we will be

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here next week here on pet Life Radio, Ask the

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partners mass retailers like Kroger and Walmart and Target, and

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we will see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on petlfradio

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dot com.

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Speaker 2: Same thing,

