Speaker 1: Karen. Yes, I think I might have found the ultimate
Speaker 1: guide to this psychic world. Ooh, and get this, Yes
Speaker 1: she's She's trained at the legendary Arthur Finley College, taught
Speaker 1: at the College of Psychic Studies, and even help police
Speaker 1: with psychic detection.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: Now, she isn't just a medium, she is a master
Speaker 1: teacher of the metaphysical, mentor to future psychics, and because
Speaker 1: why stop, there a university lecturer on creativity and storytelling.
Speaker 3: Oh cool?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and did I mention she's also the host of
Speaker 1: a top one point five percent podcast and spiritual developments.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think it's safe to say we might
Speaker 1: be in good hands right on this one, ready to
Speaker 1: unravel the mysteries of psychic science, situition, and even past
Speaker 1: life regression. Will then stick around because this episode is
Speaker 1: about to take us deep into the unseen.
Speaker 2: My name is Will and I'm Karen.
Speaker 1: Unlike Boulder and Scully, both want to believe. So we've
Speaker 1: embarked in a journey of discovery.
Speaker 4: We've talked to people deeply into the spiritual and metaphysical world.
Speaker 1: We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even
Speaker 1: joined a coven.
Speaker 4: Of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep.
Speaker 1: All on the interest of finding something, anything, that will
Speaker 1: prove that there's something beyond this physical.
Speaker 4: Three dimensional world we all live in.
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Speaker 1: kept you from the interview long enough, so let's get
Speaker 1: to it. Thanks for listening. Hey, there, I Will and
Speaker 1: our guest today is a powerhouse in the world of spiritualism,
Speaker 1: psychic sciences and metaphysical teachings. With over thirty eight years
Speaker 1: thirty eight, yes, I read that right of experience. She's
Speaker 1: trained at some of the most prestigious institutions in the field,
Speaker 1: including the world's renowned Arthur Finley College and the College's
Speaker 1: Psychic Studies Now. She's an evidential medium, an esteemed tutor,
Speaker 1: and a certified past life aggression hypnotherapists. As a dedicated educator,
Speaker 1: she teaches psychic development, mediumship and even remote viewing, helping
Speaker 1: students unlock their own intuitive abilities. Boy, are we going
Speaker 1: to be talking today?
Speaker 2: She sounds very busy.
Speaker 1: Now. Beyond her work in spiritualism, she's also an associate
Speaker 1: lecturer at the University of the Arts in London and
Speaker 1: host of the Psychic Matters podcast, a top ranked show
Speaker 1: that explores a depth of psychic and spiritual development. Please
Speaker 1: welcome to the show and Teato and how are you
Speaker 1: doing today? Oh?
Speaker 3: Thank you so much? That was a lovely introduction. Gosh, Yes,
Speaker 3: I am busy and I do do a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's easy to write wonderful introductions when
Speaker 1: the person has such wonderfully varied and esteemed experience. So
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. This is a
Speaker 1: real treat for us. Really excited to have you on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's our pleasure. Okay, A lot to talk about,
Speaker 1: so I'm just going to dive right in. You have
Speaker 1: dedicated your life to spiritualism and psychic sciences. Was there
Speaker 1: a specific moment or experience that awakened you to this path?
Speaker 3: Yes, probably when I was in my thirties. I've always
Speaker 3: been psychic as a child, didn't really understand at the
Speaker 3: time I was psychic, but looking back, and in my thirties,
Speaker 3: when I had children they were young, I started to
Speaker 3: see what I would describe as shadows moving through my house,
Speaker 3: people people's I'd see people's arms or legs or spirit animals,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know what it was, and I needed
Speaker 3: to go and get some tuition and some training for that.
Speaker 3: So that's really what spurred me on for the mediumship.
Speaker 3: I've always been interested in it since I was a child,
Speaker 3: and I got my first Harrow cars at seventeen, so
Speaker 3: it's been a long journey.
Speaker 1: Wow. So it's either learned how to be a psychic
Speaker 1: or go to the psychic ward right one or the other.
Speaker 1: You chose a proper one.
Speaker 3: I'm straight exactly.
Speaker 1: I got to ask the obvious question, because you teach
Speaker 1: people how to become psychic or be more in tune
Speaker 1: with their psychic senses and things like that. Is everybody
Speaker 1: We've heard of this, but we want to confirm it
Speaker 1: from you. Is everybody's psychic? Everybody? Or there's just some
Speaker 1: Porschmow like me in a corner who's like he's just
Speaker 1: dumb and suck in a run and there's no way
Speaker 1: that any psychic abilities are going to come to me.
Speaker 3: No, everybody has psychic abilities. We're born with them. It's
Speaker 3: just that they are roundly ignored by civilization unfortunately. But
Speaker 3: everybody is psychic, and everybody can be trained to use
Speaker 3: their psychic mind. And it's surprising, really. I get a
Speaker 3: lot of newcomers into my I run as development circle
Speaker 3: every Friday for people who want to learn and people
Speaker 3: just surprise themselves with what they're able to achieve once
Speaker 3: they set their mind to it, things that they didn't
Speaker 3: know that they'd be able to do.
Speaker 1: So well, I know it's a different thing, but I
Speaker 1: set my mind to moving the beer across a table
Speaker 1: just by me thinking about it, and it's never worked,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I must not have anything an.
Speaker 4: So is it like a muscle, say, like you kind
Speaker 4: of tap into this when you're young, which a lot
Speaker 4: of people I think do, and then life happens and
Speaker 4: you get busy and you forget about this way of
Speaker 4: looking at things in this life. Can you go back
Speaker 4: into it or do you have to start like retraining
Speaker 4: your thought process in your mind?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting question, Karen. I think what we
Speaker 3: do is we refine our ability to sense the world
Speaker 3: around us, and the greater focus we put on that,
Speaker 3: the greater our refinement. So if you think about an
Speaker 3: artist who likes to paint, they will be very mindful
Speaker 3: as they walk through the world of how the light
Speaker 3: touches something, or the shape of somebody's face, or the
Speaker 3: way the breeze might blow the trees, and they'll be
Speaker 3: able to use that they're refining their sense of connection
Speaker 3: to the world so that they can paint those things
Speaker 3: better and better. A surgeon might have a more refined
Speaker 3: sense of touch as he goes through he or she
Speaker 3: goes through their various operas. We become better and better
Speaker 3: than more and more that we focus on it.
Speaker 1: Well, then if people are interested in doing these kinds
Speaker 1: of things, and a lot of people, more and more
Speaker 1: people are waking up to this interest, right, what are
Speaker 1: the first steps that someone can take to try to
Speaker 1: move in that direction.
Speaker 3: Take a class would be a step, but you have
Speaker 3: to be careful who you go and study with, so
Speaker 3: I would always be led by my intuition, my gut feeling.
Speaker 3: How does it feel, does it feel right? Look on
Speaker 3: the internet, look for you know, good teachers, good classes,
Speaker 3: word of mouth, recommendation, or just things that you personally
Speaker 3: are drawn to. So definitely take a class. But if
Speaker 3: you want to be more psychic without taking a class,
Speaker 3: then I suggest that you really, really, really pay attention
Speaker 3: to the sense of ambiance around you, which is our
Speaker 3: sixth sense, because our psychic is our seventh sense of
Speaker 3: ambiance is the feeling of the energy around you. So
Speaker 3: I'm sure both of you guys have perhaps walked into
Speaker 3: a room after an argument. You can taste it in
Speaker 3: the air, you can feel that something's not quite right.
Speaker 3: There's people's some people's homes you can go into and
Speaker 3: they feel really comfortable because of the ambiance you pick
Speaker 3: up on it. Nobody tells you this is a comfortable house.
Speaker 3: You sense it, you feel it. And some people's houses
Speaker 3: are uncomfortable, some are comfortable. They have different feelings. Different
Speaker 3: places have different feelings, and so we pay attention to
Speaker 3: the ambiance all around us, like tasting, you know, like
Speaker 3: a steak will taste the air with its tongue. We're
Speaker 3: sort of tasting, feeling into the atmosphere, the ambiance around
Speaker 3: us as psychic. So that's what you need to do.
Speaker 3: Become very very aware and trust what you're picking up
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: I think that's the hard part.
Speaker 4: I know that sometimes, you know, I've had these experiences
Speaker 4: where I'm like, am I making this up? How do
Speaker 4: you let go of that belief in yourself and start
Speaker 4: to really trust that you are feeling something that's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question, Karen. I think it's just
Speaker 3: practice really and knowing that there is such a thing
Speaker 3: as your psychic mind and your psychic ability, and trusting
Speaker 3: in that it will never let you down ever, ever, ever,
Speaker 3: And it's just practice.
Speaker 1: It's the easier said than done. In this world where
Speaker 1: you're running around everywhere. It's hard to keep your mind
Speaker 1: on spiritualy, right on finding to practice, to find a
Speaker 1: way to develop these things, or to be really even
Speaker 1: be in tuned with the ambiance like you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Because we are being demanded to move faster and live
Speaker 1: in a three D world a very very specific way.
Speaker 2: So and we want proof of everything. Well, not in
Speaker 2: like physical tangible proof.
Speaker 1: I do, I do, but you know we meaning you,
Speaker 1: we meaning me.
Speaker 2: A lot of people. Yeah, seeing as believing there's that
Speaker 2: whole phrase.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's of course, we've got a conscious mind,
Speaker 3: which we really need to do what you're saying, you know,
Speaker 3: run around and do the school, run, go to work
Speaker 3: every day, make our lists of shopping and do the laundry.
Speaker 3: We really need our conscious mind. But also we must
Speaker 3: be encouraged to go within and look at what we
Speaker 3: call the implica order, that which happens within, and be
Speaker 3: able to put the conscious mind to one side, because
Speaker 3: the conscious mind is not psychic. So if you're trying
Speaker 3: to feel something with your conscious mind and know something
Speaker 3: and it's not going to work, conscious mind doesn't know
Speaker 3: what it's doing. It's the psychic mind that you need
Speaker 3: to use. And it's that day dream state, that in
Speaker 3: between state. You know, when you've been told off as
Speaker 3: a child for looking out the window at school, was
Speaker 3: being told off being in a daze. It's that beautiful
Speaker 3: sort of day dream state is where you want to
Speaker 3: be and allow those thoughts and impressions to come in.
Speaker 3: So you have to there's two sides of the mind
Speaker 3: and you have to learn which side to use.
Speaker 1: You studied in some prestigious institutions, which is even just
Speaker 1: to say that is mind blowing to me right now
Speaker 1: that there are prestigious institutions that teach psychic development. There's
Speaker 1: so much distrust, I guess of this type of thing
Speaker 1: for there to emerge an institution like the Arthur Finley College,
Speaker 1: for example. It's anti intuitive to have something like this,
Speaker 1: So how.
Speaker 4: Do you actually it's not anti intuitive but ti non intuitive, right, but.
Speaker 1: In the three D world, So how did studying in
Speaker 1: institutions like this help shape who you are right now?
Speaker 3: Well, first, of all, the Arthur Finny College employ the
Speaker 3: best teachers in the world, so when you go there,
Speaker 3: you're going to get the best teaching that there is
Speaker 3: currently and so of course that's going to shape form
Speaker 3: how you learn and your knowledge about the topic. And
Speaker 3: they encourage you to try out all kinds of different exercises.
Speaker 3: And it's a very busy day when you go to
Speaker 3: the Arther Finny College. Usually I will go for a
Speaker 3: week at a time, and you'll be working from nine
Speaker 3: in the morning till nine at night, with breakfast, lunch,
Speaker 3: and dinner of course in between those times. But it's
Speaker 3: a very very long day. It's very very intensive learning.
Speaker 3: It's the most beautiful, beautiful place. If anybody gets a
Speaker 3: chance to go, it's absolutely fantastic. But they have There
Speaker 3: is the Spiritualist's National Union, the SNU, which runs an
Speaker 3: education program, and that is the education program that I
Speaker 3: have gone through. In fact, I've just almost got what
Speaker 3: they call their qualification, which is the d SNU, the
Speaker 3: Diploma of the Spirituous National Union, and it is literally
Speaker 3: the equivalent of a PhD. I've written ninety seven thousand,
Speaker 3: three hundred words of essays so far. Wow, it's an
Speaker 3: awful lot. Yeah, and she was busy. Yeah. Well, I'm
Speaker 3: hoping to be a teacher at the Arth Finny College
Speaker 3: myself one day, so well, one day soon, hopefully, thankful
Speaker 3: I was according to plan.
Speaker 1: Is that it all associated with spiritualist churches or is
Speaker 1: it a totally different path?
Speaker 3: Can you ask that question again?
Speaker 1: Sure, So there's a at least here in the States,
Speaker 1: there's a section of the population that goes to a
Speaker 1: spiritualist church. Yes, that is really is designed to connect
Speaker 1: during services, connect with spirits in the congregation. Is it
Speaker 1: aligned with that or is that? Is it a totally
Speaker 1: different Oh it is okay.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's absolutely right. The Spiritualist National Union, that's a
Speaker 3: religious organization and a charity. So that's what they are.
Speaker 3: And they've got this education program, and of course they've
Speaker 3: got Spiritualist churches which people will go to. And in
Speaker 3: a Spirituist church you can watch a demonstration of mediumship
Speaker 3: where the medium will use their eternal consciousness to connect
Speaker 3: with the eternal consciousness of those who are in the
Speaker 3: spirit world and bring through what we call messages for
Speaker 3: the people in the congregation.
Speaker 1: I love that term, the eternal consciousness.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So then what would you say are the Because
Speaker 1: when people think about mediumship and these kinds of things,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of immediate images thoughts that come to mind.
Speaker 1: What would you feel would be the most misunderstood part
Speaker 1: of mediumship?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you are asking.
Speaker 1: Can you Can you ask any misconceptions? Are there any
Speaker 1: misconceptions that you like to dispel? Like, for example, when
Speaker 1: people here think about spiritualist churches, they think about I
Speaker 1: don't know, you do evidential mediumship, so it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. But there are people that feel that mediumship
Speaker 1: is just people try and take one over on someone.
Speaker 1: For example, how can someone be confident that when they
Speaker 1: go to a spiritualist church or they go speak with
Speaker 1: you or something like that, that they are truly in
Speaker 1: with someone who can help them.
Speaker 3: I think it's really important that you've brought this up
Speaker 3: because there is so much skepticism, especially in our field,
Speaker 3: and I personally have had to be very skeptical about
Speaker 3: this work myself, and it's only through me wanting to
Speaker 3: throw in the towel and say this is all a
Speaker 3: load of nonsense. I'm not doing it anymore. But it's
Speaker 3: only through my own learning that I've come to realize
Speaker 3: this is a real, real thing that happens and it's
Speaker 3: absolutely incredible. So how can someone be sure, Well, you
Speaker 3: have to go to someone who's had a lot of
Speaker 3: training and who knows what they're talking about. And you
Speaker 3: can only do that, as I say, by researching their
Speaker 3: credentials really for somebody who take and also as a
Speaker 3: member of the Spirituous National Union, we have a great
Speaker 3: code of ethics by which we work, so we wouldn't predict, say,
Speaker 3: for instance, from the platform, we wouldn't demonstrate where alcohol
Speaker 3: is being served. We all kinds of different things that
Speaker 3: we work too as our code of conduct. So there's
Speaker 3: a great standard and I think bringing up the standard
Speaker 3: of mediumship and training for mediums is really really vital.
Speaker 3: And if anybody's listening and they aren't able to go
Speaker 3: across the pond as you call it, to the Arthophony
Speaker 3: College itself, which is over in the UK in a
Speaker 3: place called Stansteard just by Stansted Airport, you can learn
Speaker 3: online with the SNUI, which is the Spirituous National Union International,
Speaker 3: and you will get amazing tuition from the teachers there
Speaker 3: and it's for international students and it's only twenty five
Speaker 3: pounds for the entire year and all your classes are free.
Speaker 3: So it's a really wonderful resource for people in different countries.
Speaker 1: Can you say that again? Yeah, because I'm going right now,
Speaker 1: not right now, right after this interview, will you.
Speaker 2: So check it out.
Speaker 3: It's called the s NUI Spirituous National Union International. I
Speaker 3: think the website might be dot org dot UK.
Speaker 1: Wonderful, Thank you, I will check it out. That sounds fascinating.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we have to also really test
Speaker 3: our own what we're doing here. Just you saying that
Speaker 3: reminded me of something that I did several years ago.
Speaker 3: I stood up in a spirituish church and it was
Speaker 3: part of my training and I was doing a demonstration
Speaker 3: of mediumship and I stood up and I said, there's
Speaker 3: a gentleman here and he's dressed in skins, like animal skins,
Speaker 3: and he's walking along the ice and he's been hunting
Speaker 3: for seals. Now, I was in the middle of a
Speaker 3: suburban area in the middle of the UK, sort of
Speaker 3: middle aged audience, and I just looked out thinking, nobody,
Speaker 3: but nobody is going to know who the says, I
Speaker 3: must be going absolutely bonkers. This is a load of rubbish,
Speaker 3: and I think I'll go and be a secretary like
Speaker 3: I used to be. And what happened was somebody puts
Speaker 3: a hand up. This was my uncle, I said, he
Speaker 3: takes me to Greenland. Yes, he came from Greenland. He
Speaker 3: was a seal hunter. I mean, what are the chances
Speaker 3: of that? Wows like that really make you think, Okay, right,
Speaker 3: there's so much truth in this, How on earth can
Speaker 3: I pick this up? And it's only by finding your
Speaker 3: own truth can you deal with our own skepticism? But
Speaker 3: I think skepticism is absolutely vital, right.
Speaker 1: I mean that's such a specific example too, right, being
Speaker 1: a seal hunter, you wouldn't I mean, it wouldn't come
Speaker 1: to mind at all.
Speaker 4: Will So you mentioned something when you were talking about
Speaker 4: the code of ethics that you follow and that you
Speaker 4: don't do predictions. So I have a twofold question about that.
Speaker 4: As mediums, can you predict? Can you forecast things? And
Speaker 4: if so, why do you? Why is it an ethic
Speaker 4: or to do that?
Speaker 3: So, when you're working under the Code of conduct for
Speaker 3: the Spirituist National Union as a medium, you don't predict
Speaker 3: from the platform because it's not evidential. You're looking at
Speaker 3: a future that hasn't actually happened yet. So when we
Speaker 3: work on platform, everything that we bring through is from
Speaker 3: the mind or the eternal consciousness of or soul if
Speaker 3: you like, of the spirit communicator, and everything that they
Speaker 3: say is present or current or known by the person
Speaker 3: in front of us. Not always. Sometimes they can say
Speaker 3: things like, there's a your grandfather had a watch and
Speaker 3: it's kept in a yellow box, and the person in
Speaker 3: front of you may not know what that is, but
Speaker 3: you give it anyway, and then it turns out that
Speaker 3: there is a watch that the person didn't know that's
Speaker 3: kept in a yellow box. There's that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: But that's not prediction that's coming straight from the spirit world.
Speaker 3: But if I was to say to somebody, hmm, if
Speaker 3: you carry on going along your life path, I predict
Speaker 3: that you will become a policewoman one day, then that's
Speaker 3: that's not evidential from the spirit world. That's my right
Speaker 3: me giving a prediction.
Speaker 1: And it could that could be the distinction between evidential
Speaker 1: mediumship in psychic someone who goes.
Speaker 3: To yes exactly, because the psychic is where we use
Speaker 3: our energy to work with the energy of the person
Speaker 3: sitting in front of us. And we are able to
Speaker 3: pick up information from that energy field, from the auric
Speaker 3: field and give it back to that person. And yes,
Speaker 3: then you could possibly give prediction if this happens. I
Speaker 3: see this, but again nothing is set in stone, because
Speaker 3: we've got free will and free choice and all of
Speaker 3: those things.
Speaker 1: Sure, so then when you saw the gentleman in the skins,
Speaker 1: seal Hunter, this is a fascinating question for me because
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what it would be like when
Speaker 1: you see you said there's a there's a gentleman in
Speaker 1: the room. Is it just a knowing that he's there?
Speaker 1: Do you see that person in there? Is it a
Speaker 1: shadowy figure? Like? How does it come to you?
Speaker 3: For that particular example was in my early mediumship, and
Speaker 3: at that time I could stare at a spot on
Speaker 3: the wall at the back of the church or center,
Speaker 3: and that person I can see them like a movie
Speaker 3: in my mind, and I project that movie onto the
Speaker 3: back wall, so I can literally see him walking. I
Speaker 3: can also become him as if he is if I'm
Speaker 3: walking in those skins, as if I'm walking along the
Speaker 3: ice with him. And I remember saying to this girl,
Speaker 3: he calls to you along across the ice, and it's
Speaker 3: this long. Ah, there's like a big long call like this.
Speaker 3: And I said, he tells me that you sing, and
Speaker 3: she said, yes, I'm an opera singer.
Speaker 2: A wow.
Speaker 3: I mean that was extraordinary. But now my mediumship, after
Speaker 3: many many years of practice and fine tuning and so on,
Speaker 3: now it's very subtle. It doesn't come to me where
Speaker 3: I see those images. Now, I just see it as
Speaker 3: I might see somebody's hands in my mind's eye, and
Speaker 3: then I will ask that spirit person to blend their
Speaker 3: energy with mine, put their hands over my hands, and
Speaker 3: as they do that, then I know, oh, my wrist
Speaker 3: is broken, there's something missing here, I have got a
Speaker 3: missing finger or oh. And as the rest of the
Speaker 3: body comes into my awareness of their old physical body,
Speaker 3: then you know whether they're walking to one side, you
Speaker 3: know how old they are, you know what they pass of.
Speaker 3: You know, you just become much more aware of them,
Speaker 3: and that information drops into your knowing.
Speaker 1: We've spoken a lot of evidential mediums, and I've always
Speaker 1: asked how they see the person that they're connected with.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that answer where you look across to
Speaker 1: the one and see it projected. I've never considered trying that,
Speaker 1: so that might be something I try next time. You know,
Speaker 1: you try everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've heard people say it's like a movie, but
Speaker 2: in their mind's eye.
Speaker 1: Really before that's and I think it could still be
Speaker 1: in their mind's EyeT, but they're visualizing it right, So
Speaker 1: that makes sense. That makes perfect sense. And I had
Speaker 1: never thought of it that way.
Speaker 3: So thank you, because you're if you're looking at it
Speaker 3: like a movie, you're using what we call our clearvoyance,
Speaker 3: which is our clear vision, so you can clearly see
Speaker 3: that image in your mind. I project it onto the wall,
Speaker 3: but I will also use my clear sentience, which is
Speaker 3: my clear feeling. How does this make me feel? What
Speaker 3: is this person feeling? How did they feel just before
Speaker 3: they passed away? And when you blend with them, and
Speaker 3: you blend your energy with theirs, they put their face
Speaker 3: over your face, their shoulders over your shoulders. Then you
Speaker 3: can walk with them, you can walk out. It's a
Speaker 3: little bit like remote viewing through their eyes, and you
Speaker 3: can walk with them through their life. You can see
Speaker 3: their house, you can walk with them to their place
Speaker 3: of work. So it's it's a most beautiful, beautiful thing
Speaker 3: to be able to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So did he have a message for her? Why
Speaker 2: was he there?
Speaker 3: I can't remember what the message was, actually, good point,
Speaker 3: good question. Can't remember what the message was. But he
Speaker 3: was related to her through family. I think he was
Speaker 3: her uncle or something like this, and that's why he
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 1: But then that brings up a good question overall when
Speaker 1: you do these things, is it do people come because
Speaker 1: they actually have a message they have to get across
Speaker 1: or is it just ta hey, shoin you what can happen?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Is there a point to that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What is the point? It's a good point, good point.
Speaker 3: What is the point of mediumship? Well, the point of
Speaker 3: mediumship is to provide information that can be evidential to
Speaker 3: the recipient. We can't provide evidence. We can only provide
Speaker 3: information right to a person in front of us, and
Speaker 3: it's up to them to decide if that is evidential
Speaker 3: for them. So it's to show people that this is
Speaker 3: not this flesh and blood life that we live with
Speaker 3: our conscious mind is not the only life that life
Speaker 3: continues on, and that we came from somewhere before we
Speaker 3: were born and we return.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's a way of validating that, yes, indeed,
Speaker 1: there is something around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: So I imagine you have had an experience where someone just
Speaker 4: was very skeptical, skeptical, doesn't believe in this in h
Speaker 4: and you gave them some sort of information that just
Speaker 4: completely flipped the switch. That something that you've had an
Speaker 4: experience with.
Speaker 3: Certainly there are people that have come to me that
Speaker 3: are very skeptical, and you can only do your best
Speaker 3: to provide information. Nothing really stands out. There's been some
Speaker 3: very beautiful spirit people who I've worked with that I remember,
Speaker 3: such as a gentleman who came to see me once
Speaker 3: and I remember his son was here from the spirit world,
Speaker 3: and I remember describing I was thinking about this the
Speaker 3: other day, and I was described a few things that
Speaker 3: that boy was or wasn't able to do, and I
Speaker 3: remember describing his arm. I said, as he shows me
Speaker 3: his arm, I know it's a different width to the
Speaker 3: other arm. There's something and I know that my fingers
Speaker 3: curled like this on this arm, and I don't think
Speaker 3: I'm able to move the arm. I have to move
Speaker 3: it with my other hand. And he said, yes, that's
Speaker 3: exactly what he was like. So it is really beautiful.
Speaker 3: But of course a lot of the information is not
Speaker 3: of us, so it's not retained in the conscious mind.
Speaker 3: It moves through us and out, so from spirit, through
Speaker 3: my spirit to your spirit, and so it's a chat.
Speaker 3: So we are a channel of information that comes out,
Speaker 3: so we don't retain it. It's not always easy to
Speaker 3: remember what you've just said.
Speaker 1: Sure, no, it makes sense because the information isn't not
Speaker 1: really meant for you, It's meant for the person that
Speaker 1: you're speaking to. Yes. Yeah, So a lot of folks
Speaker 1: are listening to the show or watching the show are
Speaker 1: here because they are on an active path trying to
Speaker 1: awaken spiritually or raizor consciousness. Do you feel I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I know what the answer is, but do
Speaker 1: you feel that evidential mediumship, psychic neists, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Are these solid tools to help them increase their spiritual
Speaker 1: awakening or might they be a distraction?
Speaker 3: When you say spiritual awakening, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure everyone has Everyone has
Speaker 1: their own their own definition of what spiritual awakening is.
Speaker 1: But the way that I see it is going from
Speaker 1: the three dimensional world, being completely entrenched in the day
Speaker 1: to day making money, taking care of the family or whatever,
Speaker 1: and instead develop a spiritual relationship with who we actually are,
Speaker 1: our higher cells, or the universe, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that tapping into some of these senses
Speaker 1: would open up those channels idly, more widely than not.
Speaker 1: But there are folks, uh, some all gurus believe that
Speaker 1: utilizing these gifts tend to be a distraction from that
Speaker 1: spiritual weakening, that pure spiritual awakening, which sainly aisle. Would
Speaker 1: you sit on that?
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I don't know about those people
Speaker 3: who find it a distraction. I can only sit on
Speaker 3: the side of I think it's absolutely amazing and beautiful,
Speaker 3: and sitting in the divine presence of all things is
Speaker 3: one of the most beautiful things that we can do,
Speaker 3: just to find that peacefulness within. And of course we
Speaker 3: must always remember that this is not some flight of
Speaker 3: fancy that we've made up with our crystal ball. This
Speaker 3: is quantum physics. This is quantum science, and so if
Speaker 3: you want to explore it, which I'm doing intensely, you
Speaker 3: want to be looking at what quantum science is proving,
Speaker 3: what quantum physics are showing. There's some incredible experiments taking
Speaker 3: place across the world with synthetic telepathy, say, for instance,
Speaker 3: whereby they will scientists are able to put an implant
Speaker 3: into somebody's mind or brain that will make robotic limbs lift.
Speaker 3: You must have seen this on YouTube, so by your
Speaker 3: thoughts you can make certain things happen. And of course
Speaker 3: not just the limb that's attached to your body, somebody
Speaker 3: else's limb across the other side of the world. So
Speaker 3: these are this synthetic telepathy. They're trying to use it
Speaker 3: for military purposes, so that if soldiers are caught on
Speaker 3: the battlefield and they can't use a radio where they
Speaker 3: can't speak, or for whatever reason, they can think and
Speaker 3: get the helicopter to come and rescue them and give
Speaker 3: their locations. So all of these things. This world could
Speaker 3: be the most fascinating place if we studied this properly.
Speaker 3: So places like the Arthur Findley College and the Spirituous
Speaker 3: National Uth Union education program, this is where we begin
Speaker 3: to We're only at the very beginning. So I would
Speaker 3: I would encourage people to look at the science, especially
Speaker 3: the skeptical people. Look at the science. Let's explore that,
Speaker 3: because that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: You know. I actually not long ago I brought up
Speaker 1: that same question to you, Karen, where I was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's how do I get my fingers to
Speaker 1: move by just thinking about it? Right?
Speaker 4: And we talk because you're not thinking about it, They're
Speaker 4: just you're not consciously thinking, move the fingers, grabbed the paper,
Speaker 4: You just.
Speaker 1: Do it, right. Yeah, So it's it's a it's a
Speaker 1: great create And I've always wondered that. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have seen you you have muscles, you have, but what electrical?
Speaker 1: Is an electrical charge that makes it move? I mean that's.
Speaker 2: Electrical impulses in our brain.
Speaker 1: Yes, but but how how does it work? That's the
Speaker 1: that's the magic question.
Speaker 3: And that's what scientists are looking into. They're looking into
Speaker 3: non locality, say, for instance, which is where particles can
Speaker 3: affect each other no matter how far apart they are,
Speaker 3: without any direct connection or signal between them.
Speaker 4: So it's scary though, to think about someone being able
Speaker 4: to move robotic limbs in a different on the other
Speaker 4: side of the world, because then it's like, oh, it's
Speaker 4: like a puppet master almost.
Speaker 1: People use it now, like you guys WiFi right, drones
Speaker 1: are being driven, yes, but.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine if you had, you know, different couple
Speaker 4: of prosthetic legs and all a sudden, you're up and
Speaker 4: walking unintentionally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of creepy. That is kind of creepy,
Speaker 1: but kind of cool at same time.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean there's amazing, you know. That's the thing.
Speaker 4: There's there's always two sides. There's the you know what
Speaker 4: can credible things can you do with these? And then
Speaker 4: how can they be misused?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Now do spirits ever communicate, not just to
Speaker 1: share hey, there is an afterlife, but rather they have
Speaker 1: messages for the world that they they feel it's really
Speaker 1: important for me to come through and say, hey, knucklehead,
Speaker 1: stop this or this is going to happen or is
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Speaker 1: let's get to the interview. Does spirits ever communicate not
Speaker 1: just to share hey, there is an afterlife, but rather
Speaker 1: they have messages for the world that they feel it's
Speaker 1: really important for me to come through and say, hey, knucklehead,
Speaker 1: stop this or this is going to happen, or is
Speaker 1: it exclusively just there's more to life than just this.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know the answer to that question.
Speaker 1: In your experience.
Speaker 3: In my experience, of course, I work in evidential mediumships
Speaker 3: and most of the work that I do is giving
Speaker 3: messages messages to people from a platform, all one to one.
Speaker 3: But I also am a trance medium and work in
Speaker 3: trance with giving voice to channeled consciousness. It's not something
Speaker 3: I actually speak about. It is the first time I've
Speaker 3: spoken about it in public. But there are messages that
Speaker 3: come through from the consciousness that I channel, and it
Speaker 3: is for the greater mankind, I suppose. But it's not
Speaker 3: something that I would want to go out and put
Speaker 3: into the world because if someone can't even understand at
Speaker 3: this moment the psychic mind in its most basic form,
Speaker 3: how are they going to even take me seriously when
Speaker 3: I give them a message from my channeled consciousness the
Speaker 3: high mind. So it's something that is between me and
Speaker 3: the spirit world. It's work that I'm doing behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: One day, if I feel like i'd like to share it,
Speaker 3: then I will. But yes, there's lots of things like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's the Teachings of Abraham. You must have
Speaker 3: watched Esther Hicks, absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 1: So do you.
Speaker 4: We've spoken to people that have different experiences with this question.
Speaker 4: I'm about to ask you. Do you see or feel
Speaker 4: spirit everywhere all the time or is it something that
Speaker 4: you have to tap into.
Speaker 3: No, I don't feel spirit all the time. I do
Speaker 3: tap into it. Sometimes I can be going about my
Speaker 3: business and occasionally become aware of spirit in the room
Speaker 3: with me, or a certain person has come to visit
Speaker 3: for some reason. I don't always know who it is.
Speaker 3: But I don't I switch off. I don't go around
Speaker 3: the world, otherwise I wouldn't be able to move in
Speaker 3: my life a sensing spirit everywhere. So no, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't sense and as I'm working, I'll turn on
Speaker 3: when i'm working.
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, I can imagine if it's Yeah, it'd be
Speaker 1: like Superman and you're hearing all the voices at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 3: You'd be tired as well, because it's energy, so we're
Speaker 3: working with energy, so it would be exhausting.
Speaker 1: Woul drain you right. That makes sense. Now you teach
Speaker 1: spiritual development classes and things like that. Is there one
Speaker 1: exercise or practice that someone listening or watching right now
Speaker 1: could do to quickly strengthen their own intuition?
Speaker 3: Let me see it would be for me sitting in
Speaker 3: the silence. Let me just see if it was me
Speaker 3: and I wanted to strengthen my intuition. I'll set the
Speaker 3: intention first. Always, my intention is to strengthen my intuition.
Speaker 3: So by that, what do you mean you want to
Speaker 3: be able to trust what you're picking up? Is that
Speaker 3: your intention?
Speaker 1: Sure? I think everyone have a different intention, But for me,
Speaker 1: sure that if I was to sit down and want
Speaker 1: to if there was an exercise that I could do
Speaker 1: to help me strength and masachic intuition abilities, what would
Speaker 1: you recommend?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would recommend sitting in the silence and the
Speaker 3: divine presence of all things. So moving into a space
Speaker 3: whereby the conscious mind becomes still Our thoughts of every
Speaker 3: day shopping lists and things will still come in, but
Speaker 3: we don't pay attention to them. So just focus on
Speaker 3: the breath, Focus on the breathing, focus on the sensation
Speaker 3: of the energy of you, and just feel into the
Speaker 3: energy of everything else. It's like the divine presence is
Speaker 3: all I can say. You can call it God, you
Speaker 3: can call it divinity, you can call it the natural
Speaker 3: energy around us, whatever you like. Because it's that that
Speaker 3: you're going to use when you're working with your intuitions.
Speaker 3: So you need to know what it feels like first
Speaker 3: so that you can move into using it. So it's
Speaker 3: sitting in that beautiful power. We call it sitting in
Speaker 3: the power. And so when you come to use your intuition,
Speaker 3: so say, for instance, you need to make a decision,
Speaker 3: shall I buy this shirt or shall I buy that shirt?
Speaker 3: Shall I go to that party? Or shall I not?
Speaker 3: What you do, then, when you need to use it,
Speaker 3: put your hand on your solar plexus on your tummy
Speaker 3: and feel, use your clest sentience to feel what is
Speaker 3: the correct decision. How will I feel if I go
Speaker 3: to that party? How will I feel if I stay
Speaker 3: at home? You'll tell yourself what the answer is. You'll
Speaker 3: know what the answer is because that's your intuition speaking
Speaker 3: loud and clear. You don't go to that party because
Speaker 3: you're not going to have a good time, or you
Speaker 3: definitely go be Is it going to be great? You
Speaker 3: can feel it before you go anywhere. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: the it's the it's refining that sense, which is what
Speaker 3: I said at the beginning, learning how to refine that sense.
Speaker 3: You think of the ninjas in Japan and Eastern culture.
Speaker 3: They refine this sense of intuition so strongly that they
Speaker 3: would know whether someone was coming to kill them way
Speaker 3: before they even arrived on the scene. They can feel it.
Speaker 3: They can sense it from the ambulance, from the energy,
Speaker 3: and that's what you're trying to refine.
Speaker 1: I think I might be more intuitive than I think.
Speaker 2: I think you're very intuitive.
Speaker 1: Because I always know when you're angry at me before
Speaker 1: you even came to the house.
Speaker 4: I'm angry, right, so when I walk in and say,
Speaker 4: what have you done?
Speaker 1: I know way before that, or I'm in trouble. I
Speaker 1: know what I did, but I'm in trouble. Well, you
Speaker 1: do a lot of things that just evidential mediumship. You
Speaker 1: also we talked about remote viewing, you talked about past
Speaker 1: life regression. Is evidential mediumship? Really what draws you and
Speaker 1: if so, what made you venture into remote viewing and
Speaker 1: past life regression.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just an extension of using the conscious mind.
Speaker 3: So at the moment, I'm running a course. I'm teaching
Speaker 3: it after this interview. Actually it's called the Traveler, and
Speaker 3: it's yeah, I know, it's really cool. We're doing past
Speaker 3: life for aggression. Tonight the session is moving to the
Speaker 3: Spirit Weld to meet our friends and our loved ones
Speaker 3: to take our consciousness to that. The session next month
Speaker 3: will be astral travel. How can we physically leave our
Speaker 3: body and move into the astral body and travel around
Speaker 3: in our consciousness?
Speaker 1: We've done you now have my attention. That is the
Speaker 1: one thing everyone who's listening knows. I astral projection. Astal
Speaker 1: travel is my thing. It's so much my thing that
Speaker 1: I've never been able to do it. No, because i
Speaker 1: want to do it so badly. I want to do
Speaker 1: it too badly. That's a problem. I'm just too into it.
Speaker 1: So I need to just chill out. And I'm trying
Speaker 1: to chill out. But it's still like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: would you like? It's hard to do it?
Speaker 3: Oh, it is amazing. I did one last week and
Speaker 3: it was you can walk through walls and move through windows.
Speaker 3: It's just amazing.
Speaker 1: Of course you can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to have to go to one of
Speaker 4: her classes.
Speaker 1: I'm absolutely gonna have to go to one of our classes. Yes,
Speaker 1: so there is a difference between astral travel and remote views, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yes, in what would you classify those differences as well?
Speaker 3: The remote viewing uses the psychic mind. So you're conscious,
Speaker 3: you're sitting upright, you've got your pen in hand, and
Speaker 3: you send your psychic mind through all of time and
Speaker 3: space and you pick up information about what we call
Speaker 3: the target. That might be somebody standing somewhere, might be
Speaker 3: something in a box across the other side of the world,
Speaker 3: it might be a photograph, and you write down all
Speaker 3: your perceptions about it. So that's what remote viewing is.
Speaker 3: And astra travel is where you are in a deep
Speaker 3: state of hypnosis, almost that state between sleep and consciousness,
Speaker 3: just that hypnagogia state, just on the edge, and you're
Speaker 3: able to move your your consciousness into the astral body,
Speaker 3: which is an exact replica of your physical body, and
Speaker 3: you are able to get literally get up out of
Speaker 3: your body and move around the world. You can fly,
Speaker 3: you can create things, you can wish for stuff, you
Speaker 3: can visit people, you can do all kinds of stuff. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the difference.
Speaker 1: That might be why I'm having a hard time because
Speaker 1: that quite that little sliver of space between being awaken
Speaker 1: the sleep is so small for me. When I lie
Speaker 1: down and put my head on my pillow, I'm out.
Speaker 3: There's your mistake if you're trying to do it at
Speaker 3: night time, when you're trying to go to that's your sleep.
Speaker 3: That's where you go to sleep. You need a special
Speaker 3: place in your home, even if it's on the I
Speaker 3: was doing mine on my floor and pointing like you
Speaker 3: can all see my floor.
Speaker 1: Let me remote view.
Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. Here's the top tip for astral traveling.
Speaker 3: Don't be tired when you do it is don't when
Speaker 3: you're tired. You need to fall asleep, be really rested,
Speaker 3: because you need an active mind and a arrested body,
Speaker 3: because your mind needs to be alert to where it
Speaker 3: wants to go.
Speaker 1: Right. So, basically, what you're saying is ill. Never good
Speaker 1: to ask because I'm always so exhausted.
Speaker 3: No, you will. The best time to do it is
Speaker 3: when you've like if you wake up at four in
Speaker 3: the morning to go to the bathroom or something, you
Speaker 3: go back to bed, that's a good time to do
Speaker 3: it then, because you've had your night's sleep. You're kind
Speaker 3: of you've woken yourself up a bit to do your business,
Speaker 3: you've come back to bed, and you've still got a
Speaker 3: couple of hours. That's the perfect time if you want
Speaker 3: to do it in your bed. But I would also
Speaker 3: moot the suggestion that you use a different space in
Speaker 3: the house to do it in. And also you could
Speaker 3: use some beautiful sacred oils. I was using Galbanum yesterday.
Speaker 3: It's an absolutely incredible oil. I'm down this is a
Speaker 3: great oil as well.
Speaker 1: Been them in franking sense, okay.
Speaker 3: And myrtle is another one, so we'll be using myrtle
Speaker 3: in my course. The traveler, you.
Speaker 1: Said something that made and when you when you work
Speaker 1: up at four o'clock in the morning to do your business,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the that's the time. That's a perfect time
Speaker 1: to practice. It sounds like maybe as men get older,
Speaker 1: the universe wants them to ask or travel because like it, Yes,
Speaker 1: idea constantly waking up for in the morning.
Speaker 4: Ago, I think it's all people because I've been having
Speaker 4: my heart flashes those wake me.
Speaker 2: Up before in the morning.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, what do you see the future of
Speaker 1: ritualism as do you think this is going to take
Speaker 1: off and just be super accepted over all, or is
Speaker 1: it always going to be like a niche.
Speaker 3: I think it will be accepted the more that science
Speaker 3: is able to back what we've already been saying for
Speaker 3: a long long time. And it's not just us as
Speaker 3: a little group of psychics. There's you know, this is
Speaker 3: Eastern culture. This is centuries old what we're talking about
Speaker 3: here spirituality and using the conscious mind. So it's not
Speaker 3: just a modern thing. But I think now that we
Speaker 3: live in a more open world, where we're able to
Speaker 3: talk outside of religion and speak honestly, and science is
Speaker 3: able to prove certain things, then once science backs it,
Speaker 3: I think we may be able to make some strides.
Speaker 3: Not forgetting, of course, that science tells us that a
Speaker 3: bumblebee can't fly, but patently it can, So you know,
Speaker 3: can't trust science really away.
Speaker 1: I have always been weary though scientists.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do see this whole thing. You know,
Speaker 3: if you think we have got the ability to connect
Speaker 3: to the hive mind of the most incredibly intelligent people
Speaker 3: at once lived here, we can contact them, we can
Speaker 3: speak to them, we can channel their information. We could
Speaker 3: be using that to make an incredible world. You couple
Speaker 3: that with AI, artificial intelligence reality what do you call
Speaker 3: it when you wear a headset? Yeah, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking, gosh, wouldn't it be amazing if
Speaker 3: I could take somebody to the spirit world through maybe
Speaker 3: a past life regression experience where they can also use
Speaker 3: a virtual headset and see perhaps their loved one animated
Speaker 3: through AI, but with me speaking and they're meeting them.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that could go
Speaker 3: on to make the most beautiful, beautiful world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then then you'd have to have an implant
Speaker 1: in your head to connect transhumanism.
Speaker 3: Telepathy is telepathy. You don't need any advance for telepathy.
Speaker 3: So that's the thing. That's what we would like to prove.
Speaker 3: We want science to prove next that.
Speaker 1: I can handle the implant.
Speaker 4: I would think it would be hard if you have
Speaker 4: these abilities to connect to we ever want to disconnect
Speaker 4: to go do the laundry or to do the school drop.
Speaker 1: But that's the rug, right, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1: Bridge bows, right, you know, it.
Speaker 2: Just sounds like a place had rather be sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to hear karents. I don't even think
Speaker 1: about it, but if someone listening or watching right now
Speaker 1: feels like they're experiencing some sort of psychic awakening or
Speaker 1: something like that, but they're scared or unsure of how
Speaker 1: to move this thing forward. Word of guidance, could you
Speaker 1: offer them?
Speaker 3: Well, what I would say is, and when I first
Speaker 3: began speaking about my own experiences, when I was thirty
Speaker 3: and my had children, I was seeing all these shadows.
Speaker 3: I was perturbed. Put it that way, but the spirit
Speaker 3: world are the most loving, beautiful force of nature, we'll
Speaker 3: call it nature, and they just come to make their
Speaker 3: presence known to us, to be present, to let us
Speaker 3: know that they are around. So there is absolutely nothing
Speaker 3: to be frightened of. It is a bit disturbing when
Speaker 3: you see a shadow, when you see something, when you
Speaker 3: hear some when you don't know how you know something,
Speaker 3: but please be reassured, it's perfectly normal. It's quite normal.
Speaker 3: It's okay, So right, it's nothing to be frightened off.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 4: I love that A perfect way to sum this all up.
Speaker 4: And that's one thing that we try to do with
Speaker 4: this podcast is to really reach all of those people
Speaker 4: out there who are having these experiences and think that
Speaker 4: they're the only one we want them to know that
Speaker 4: this is normal. So thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you for what you're doing to help
Speaker 1: so many people in terms come to terms with these
Speaker 1: kinds of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: And I know you have a really super popular podcast
Speaker 1: that we'd be remissing we didn't touch on real quick
Speaker 1: before we in the conversation. Tell us about that show.
Speaker 1: What do you cover on it?
Speaker 3: Thank you, that's really kind of you to mention that
Speaker 3: it's called Psychic Matters. And I teach people how to
Speaker 3: use the psychic mind for free, so you don't have
Speaker 3: to come to a class. You can listen to the podcast.
Speaker 3: But I also interview, not I do my own solo shows,
Speaker 3: but I also interview experts across the world to bring
Speaker 3: you their wisdom and their advice and their guidance. And
Speaker 3: it's all about pushing forward the boundaries of human consciousness
Speaker 3: to redefine the significance of living. So you will find
Speaker 3: there's an awful lot of interesting episodes on there, not
Speaker 3: all about psychic and mediumship. I interview a soul midwife
Speaker 3: who sits with people who are dying to help them
Speaker 3: transition to the next world. There's all kinds of different
Speaker 3: people that I interview on their people who do meditation
Speaker 3: and reiki that you mentioned earlier. So yeah, all kinds
Speaker 3: of different things.
Speaker 1: Well, I happen to love your show, so I would
Speaker 1: encourage anyone who is curious about any of these kinds
Speaker 1: of things to check out the show because it's actually
Speaker 1: really got a lot of information. It's really well done.
Speaker 1: So thank you for what you do. Is there anything
Speaker 1: that you feel that anyone listening or watch right now
Speaker 1: really needs to know about evidential mediumship or remote viewing
Speaker 1: or passive regressions or anything that you feel important to
Speaker 1: get across with the audience. What would that be?
Speaker 3: I moved to say, don't feel alone with it because
Speaker 3: it can be a very lonely existence. My mother was
Speaker 3: ninety years old before she asked me what I did
Speaker 3: for a.
Speaker 1: Living ninety Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah. My friends I have known since I was ten
Speaker 3: or eleven. They're very lovely friends and I love them dearly,
Speaker 3: but they don't understand this world. I have made friends
Speaker 3: in mediumship circles and psychic circles of course, great friends.
Speaker 3: So it can be very very lonely, and especially when
Speaker 3: you have nowhere to turn to or classes that you
Speaker 3: can't afford or which is why I've got my podcast.
Speaker 3: And it's not just my podcast. There's other podcasts out
Speaker 3: there where you can learn. And knowledge is power always.
Speaker 3: So the more that you know, the more you understand,
Speaker 3: the more you will understand yourself. So please know your
Speaker 3: as we've already said so beautifully, you are perfectly normal
Speaker 3: and it's actually the world that is abnormal. Who don't
Speaker 3: accept that our gifts? You know, scientists feel that just
Speaker 3: because we've got a sense, it has to have a locality, eyes, site,
Speaker 3: ears for hearing. But when you've got a psychic sense
Speaker 3: and an ambient sense that doesn't have a locality, so
Speaker 3: they say it doesn't exist, but it does. Stein will
Speaker 3: tell you it exists. So you know, don't feel alone.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of especially with YouTube and podcasting and so on,
Speaker 3: there's plenty of resources where you can go and get
Speaker 3: some tuition and then you will be in a better
Speaker 3: place to understand yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a beautiful way to end the show. If
Speaker 1: someone wanted to reach out to you to learn from
Speaker 1: you or to just learn more about you, what's the
Speaker 1: best place for someone to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for asking they can go to my
Speaker 3: website and teato dot com A N N T H
Speaker 3: E A t O dot com.
Speaker 1: If you don't have a pen in hand right now,
Speaker 1: we're going to put a direct link in our show notes.
Speaker 1: So you'll need to do is just go to the
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Speaker 1: so you can be in contact with uh hand without
Speaker 1: muss or fuss. And this has been a wonderful conversation.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we will make this one of many to come beautiful.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for having me. It's been lovely
Speaker 3: talking about something I'm so passionate about.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Its