1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,519 your support. And it is Tuesday at noon, and that 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,399 means it's time to chat with Andrew Dunn. He is 11 00:00:35,439 --> 00:00:38,600 a contributing columnist to The Charlotte Observer, also the publisher 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,000 of Longleaf Politics. You can read it at longleafpol dot com. Andrew, 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:43,679 how are you, sir? 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Good to be back with you. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, thanks for your time. As always, so I 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,560 don't I'm not insulting you, but only an elections data 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,799 guy would think let alone do an analysis of what 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,880 a North Carolina state election would look like if we 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,159 had an electoral college. You realize you are in a 20 00:01:06,359 --> 00:01:09,680 very very small minority of human beings that would be 21 00:01:09,719 --> 00:01:11,599 interested let alone do something like this. 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it says about me that 23 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:16,439 that's what I think about in my spare time. 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,599 Speaker 1: Right now, I wouldn't do it, to be clear, but 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,599 I was definitely interested in reading what you wrote about 26 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:25,640 it because I know I myself wouldn't go through this trouble. 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,959 But so you get this idea, You're like, hey, let's 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,680 see what it would look like in the state. So 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,680 you run the numbers and mark Robinson big winner. He 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,879 would be the governor if North Carolina had the electoral college. 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,079 So let me put on my anti electoral college hat, 32 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:47,480 not that I actually own one, but is this proof 33 00:01:47,519 --> 00:01:50,319 that there should be no electoral college at the national 34 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,359 level because Robinson lost by such a large margin. 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,599 Speaker 2: Me, I don't interpret it that way. And you know, 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,879 the state and the country are too very different things. 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,000 You know, basically, just for a little background for your listeners, 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,519 I'm sure they're familiar with the electoral college at the 39 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:11,520 presidential level. Every state has two votes for their their 40 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:14,680 senators and then votes based on their number of House 41 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:17,080 of Representatives members. So I kind of did the same 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,719 thing with North Carolina counties, where every county got one 43 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:25,080 electoral vote. You know, that was even across the board, 44 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:28,240 and then gave additional votes based on number of state 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,680 House members in there. In North Carolina just has so 46 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,840 many small counties that just had the minimum number of 47 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:38,879 electoral votes, but they added up to a large number. 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,759 So even you know, when you run the numbers that way, 49 00:02:42,159 --> 00:02:46,639 you know Mark Robinson can lose by massive historic proportions 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,360 and still win the governor's race under an electoral college system, 51 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,800 just because you know, he's winning seventy out of the 52 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,800 one hundred counties. 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:01,719 Speaker 1: Right, So Robinson dominates in the rural counties, the small counties, 54 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:08,680 and Josh Stein dominates in Wake Mecklenburg, the big most 55 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:12,120 populated counties. Right. So also I thought it was interesting 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,120 you ran these numbers two for McCrory and Dan Forrest. 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,599 McCrory would have been a two term governor. Dan Forest 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,919 would have won in a landslide as well. So is 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,759 this just I mean, was this just a scratch an 60 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,560 itch answer a question that you had or is there 61 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:30,080 something else that we can draw from this? 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,039 Speaker 2: No, just scratching and itch, But it's really interesting. You know, 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,280 you don't have to go back that far for when 64 00:03:37,319 --> 00:03:41,680 the map looks completely different. Yes, Dan Forrest wins under 65 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,840 an electoral College and Pat McCrory wins the second term. 66 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,039 But you know, Bev Purdue still wins her first election, 67 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:52,280 like easily wins his elections easily. This was not that 68 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:55,639 long ago, you know, twenty twenty years ago, Democrats were 69 00:03:55,759 --> 00:03:59,639 performing well across the state. So it really says a 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,159 lot of our current political landscape where we've gotten so 71 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,879 geographically polarized, and I think it answers. You know, the 72 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:10,280 big question that I hear all the time, especially from 73 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:13,000 folks on the left side of the aisle, is how 74 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,840 in a fifty to fifty state is the General Assembly 75 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:21,319 you know, so dominated by Republicans And it's not jerrymandering, honestly, 76 00:04:21,399 --> 00:04:24,839 the bigger factor is that Republicans do dominate in so 77 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,879 many areas of the state. 78 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that the Democrats have of this problem where they 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:37,680 have clustered themselves in the urban areas and beyond those 80 00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:42,600 countiest they don't do well, their messages do not resonate, 81 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:44,399 and Republicans have the inverse problem. 82 00:04:44,399 --> 00:04:48,439 Speaker 2: I would submit, Yeah, I would agree with that, and 83 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,319 I think it says something. You know, really since two 84 00:04:51,319 --> 00:04:54,240 thousand and eight, the election of Barack Obama, Democrats in 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,720 North Carolina have gotten a lot more closely aligned with 86 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:01,519 national Democrats. You know, they saw all that the formula 87 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,959 worked in two thousand and eight, and they've tried to 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,319 run the same playbook again and haven't been successful at 89 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,839 the national level since then. 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the North Carolina Democrat Party chair Anderson 91 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,360 Clayton's she says y'all a lot and she cusses. So 92 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:20,680 I think that's the outreach that's really going to woo 93 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:24,519 back those rural Trump voters. I think that's the point. 94 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Don't we call that dark woke? 95 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: Now that's right, Yeah, dark woke? All right, So then 96 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:32,319 you've got another piece. This one's over by the way. 97 00:05:32,319 --> 00:05:36,079 That one was at long Leaf Politics long leafpol dot com. 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,480 This is your latest column over at the Charlotte Observer. 99 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:46,399 North Carolina's real constitutional crisis is the constitution itself? All right? 100 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Explain that? How so? Yeah, And I. 101 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: Felt a little funny writing that, you know, as a conservative, 102 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,240 you know, advocating for changing the state constitution feels radical, 103 00:05:56,319 --> 00:06:00,480 but it's honestly not. You know, the US Constitution is 104 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,519 a very well thought out document. It was built to 105 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:07,040 last the test of time. But state constitutions just aren't 106 00:06:07,319 --> 00:06:09,759 written that way, you know, not just in North Carolina, 107 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,360 but around the country. You know, state governments just have 108 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,360 so many more responsibilities that they're governing. Documents do need 109 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:19,480 to be updated from time to time. You know, North 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,480 Carolina is on its third one. It was written in 111 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:26,319 the nineteen sixties, adopted in nineteen seventy, and it just 112 00:06:26,439 --> 00:06:30,519 creates a lot of conflicts. You know, there's a difference 113 00:06:30,519 --> 00:06:33,720 between a healthy tension, you know, and balance of powers, 114 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,160 checks and balances, and just kind of bureaucratic messes. You know, 115 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:43,759 we've got ten independently elected executive branch officials, which is 116 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,160 very different from at the federal level, you have one 117 00:06:46,439 --> 00:06:49,560 unitary executive, the President of the United States. We don't 118 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,399 have that in North Carolina, and so that creates all 119 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:55,720 these kind of overlapping responsibilities that we see play out 120 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,560 in court cases, you know, most notably the recent one 121 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,560 over who gets to appoint people to the state Board 122 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,240 of Elections. 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: Right, which Josh Stein has won in the latest legal 124 00:07:06,319 --> 00:07:08,639 round there. And this is not new. You mentioned also 125 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:12,720 McCrory fought with the legislature of his own party, Roy 126 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:17,680 Cooper obviously now Josh Stein, and so this the constant 127 00:07:17,759 --> 00:07:22,439 litigation over what power does the executive have, what power 128 00:07:22,439 --> 00:07:26,079 does the legislature have, and then what rules can the 129 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,839 legislature set for the executive. It's just it's been a 130 00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,399 mess for for quite a while. Also, I think it's 131 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:37,720 important you mentioned that the state constitution last adopted back 132 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:40,000 in the seventh or seventy one, I guess it was, 133 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:45,279 and that was a different time. You know, Republicans were 134 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,920 a minority party. It was written completely by Democrats. It 135 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,480 was a course passed by voters, but there wasn't that 136 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,279 kind of partisanship that was you know, all over the 137 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:57,000 place up. 138 00:07:56,879 --> 00:08:00,399 Speaker 2: At the capitol exactly. I mean that it was even 139 00:08:00,439 --> 00:08:03,839 pre Jim Holdthauser. It was the first Republican governor in 140 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,920 a law in seventy plus years. So I don't think 141 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:11,600 people who wrote that constitution or so I'll say that 142 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:15,360 the people who studied the constitution did identify these issues. 143 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:17,959 I mean, they saw this coming if you go back 144 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,560 and read the reports from the nineteen sixties, they identified 145 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,759 these issues. But the General Assembly at that time did 146 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,399 not foresee a future in which there was a true 147 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:31,759 two party system in the state. And you know the 148 00:08:31,879 --> 00:08:34,720 problem is not really the framework. It's more kind of 149 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:38,679 the language in the constitution that lays out the executive branch, 150 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:42,000 because it says, you know, the governor is responsible for 151 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,919 executing the laws and overseeing the executive brain branch. But 152 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,279 then it also says the General Assembly gets to decide 153 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,399 what the duties are of all these different positions. And 154 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,759 so depending on how you interpret things, judges have ruled 155 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,279 one way or the other just because it it's so 156 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,120 vague and unclear what the system is actually supposed to be. 157 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: So you mentioned this study commission. They did propose a 158 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,320 fix you write about that. They suggested reduce the number 159 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,720 of the executive officers, so the Council of State basically, right, 160 00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:17,840 take it down from its current ten and reduce it 161 00:09:17,919 --> 00:09:19,000 to a smaller number. 162 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And I can't remember off the top of 163 00:09:23,919 --> 00:09:26,120 my head which ones they would keep. I know, governor, 164 00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:31,519 lieutenant governor, attorney general, Secretary of State, I believe, an auditor. Yeah, 165 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,240 those are the five. I'm actually working on a follow 166 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:36,480 up piece that we can talk about next week, where 167 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,799 I'm going to lay out my ideas for what the 168 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,559 constitution could look like to pick a lot of these problems. 169 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,399 Speaker 1: So the final question, though, is there any chance greater 170 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,679 than a snowball in hades that this would actually occur, 171 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:50,919 that a new constitution would be drafted? 172 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,759 Speaker 2: I would say slightly more than that. I mean, I 173 00:09:56,799 --> 00:10:00,200 am not gathering any sort of momentum behind it. I 174 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,320 don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. However, I 175 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,639 mean there is kind of there have been an undercurrent. 176 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,240 People who who study constitutional law have been talking about 177 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,080 this a little bit for a while, but I don't 178 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:12,840 find it likely. 179 00:10:13,759 --> 00:10:16,919 Speaker 1: If you are successful, my only request is to get 180 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,919 the word votainer inserted into the constitution to describe the 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,000 top vote getter, because vote getter is a terrible term, 182 00:10:25,159 --> 00:10:27,759 so votainer. That's my only request. And then I'll help 183 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,759 if you put votainer in there. I'm on board. 184 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,639 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll do it. 185 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. Andrew Dunn appreciate your time, Sarah, 186 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,279 thanks so much. Thank you. All right, if you're listening 187 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:38,840 to this show, you know I try to keep up 188 00:10:38,879 --> 00:10:40,639 with all sorts of current events, and I know you 189 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,159 do too. And you've probably heard me say get your 190 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,080 news from multiple sources. Why, well, because it's how you 191 00:10:47,159 --> 00:10:50,080 detect media bias, which is why I've been so impressed 192 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,879 with ground News. It's an app, and it's a website, 193 00:10:53,919 --> 00:10:56,679 and it combines news from around the world in one place, 194 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,279 so you can compare coverage and verify information. 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I 204 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,559 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 205 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:36,519 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 206 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,679 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 207 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,600 more transparent. All right, So, in Andrew Dunn's piece over 208 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:50,919 at the Charlotte Observer, his op ed from yesterday talking 209 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,559 about North Carolina's real constitutional crisis is the constitution itself. 210 00:11:57,039 --> 00:12:01,799 He says the case is simply the most recent In 211 00:12:01,919 --> 00:12:07,440 talking about the case is the Elections Board makeup and 212 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,159 who should appoint the members of the state Board of Elections. 213 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Right now, it's under the governor. The legislature tried to 214 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,720 move it over to the auditor's office, the governor sued 215 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,639 and one at this stage, I believe there will be 216 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,679 an appeal. But this is just the latest in a 217 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,279 long line of political fights dressed up as legal disputes, 218 00:12:29,399 --> 00:12:33,759 political fights dressed up as legal disputes, and it's not 219 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:36,399 going to be the last, because our constitution does not 220 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:42,440 settle power struggles, it actually creates them. He says. The 221 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:46,919 names keep changing, whether it's McCrory, Cooper, Stein, Purdue, whatever, 222 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,480 but the script doesn't. A new slate of officials takes office, 223 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:56,080 the legislature rewrites the rules, the governor sues the legislature, 224 00:12:56,399 --> 00:13:00,480 and then the court picks a winner, and then we 225 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,320 hit the reset button and do it all again. These 226 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,360 are not one off clashes. They are symptoms of a 227 00:13:06,399 --> 00:13:10,799 deeper breakdown and a sign that the state constitution needs 228 00:13:10,919 --> 00:13:17,240 an overhaul. He says. State constitutions are different than the 229 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:23,399 federal one. State constitutions, he argues, is are meant to 230 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,279 be revised. They're meant to be rewritten and adapted. We 231 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,080 are on our third Constitution. I think a lot of 232 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,559 people don't realize that we adopted this thing only like 233 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,039 fifty years ago, fifty five years ago. The framers of 234 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,159 the US Constitution envisioned divided government, but the people who 235 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,480 wrote the North Carolina version did not. And the system 236 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,960 they drew up doesn't work well in a partisan environment. 237 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,360 As I went over with Andrew, this thing was written 238 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,320 at a time when Democrats had a hammer lock on 239 00:13:55,039 --> 00:14:01,559 the legislature, the courts, and the executive right there were 240 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:07,600 there were no Republicans elected to the governor's mansion since Reconstruction. 241 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:11,919 Between Reconstruction, so the Civil War, all the way through 242 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,960 the adoption of the the latest constitution that we're operating under, 243 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,399 Democrats controlled. Well, I mean after they you know, staged 244 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:26,440 their coup out in Wilmington, murdered some people and used 245 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,440 the news and Observer and allied media to threatened and 246 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:38,240 threaten and intimidate Republicans and and black voters into you know, 247 00:14:38,919 --> 00:14:42,000 not running for office, not voting for Republicans, that sort 248 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,360 of stuff. So, I mean, they they had a hammerlock 249 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,919 on the state, complete dominance. So when they wrote the 250 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,759 constitutional provisions, they were looking at it through this frame 251 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,879 of one party control. We're in charge, and so the 252 00:14:57,919 --> 00:15:02,360 stuff that the power dynamics there, to quote a term 253 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:04,519 that Democrats and the left are very familiar with, the 254 00:15:04,559 --> 00:15:09,559 power dynamics there are between the branches with no attention 255 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:16,000 paid to another political party controlling one of these branches 256 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:21,759 and then rewriting the rules and moving responsibilities around to 257 00:15:21,919 --> 00:15:26,320 rob them from a governor and less. Do you think 258 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,440 that that is strictly a Republican phenomenon. It is not. 259 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,720 Democrats actually started doing it as soon as a Republican 260 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,519 finally won a statewide office on Council of State. Holshauser's 261 00:15:38,559 --> 00:15:44,399 governor Jim Martin as governor first lieutenant governor. 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So I have now, 291 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,559 just in the last oh, probably five hours or so, 292 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:37,359 I've become an expert on the Canadian electoral system, So 293 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,480 feel free to ask me any questions. I'm amazed how 294 00:17:42,519 --> 00:17:47,480 many Canadian electoral experts there actually are on social media. 295 00:17:47,559 --> 00:17:50,400 I had no idea. But then again, I am usually 296 00:17:51,519 --> 00:17:56,480 surprised at the broad knowledge of so many people, from 297 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:01,960 you know, deep water submersibles to weather balloons drifting across 298 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:05,920 the country. Just a lot of people with really really 299 00:18:06,039 --> 00:18:09,440 deep understanding of a lot of issues. So no, I 300 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,279 recognize the limitations I have. I do not follow Canadian 301 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,640 politics at all. I still blame them for the Geese, 302 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,240 and I think rightfully so, and that's enough. So I 303 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:25,880 am aware of what's been going on up there, kind 304 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,160 of tangentially. I watch pretty regularly. I'll watch the Jordan 305 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:36,160 Peterson podcast, and he has discussed the Canadian elections with 306 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:40,039 some guests over the last few months. This is not 307 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,400 a good thing for Canada. In my opinion, but they 308 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,720 shouldn't care because I'm an American and frankly, I don't 309 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:50,359 care really what their opinion is on much. So No, 310 00:18:50,559 --> 00:18:56,519 not even syrup or hockey gravy. Nope, not even gravy 311 00:18:56,599 --> 00:18:58,880 on French fries. I don't even really care about that. 312 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,000 I really don't care what Canadians think about anything. They 313 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,839 are their own country. I'm not saying that to be 314 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,799 mean or anything. I just think, you know, you do 315 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:14,799 you and apparently Canada doing itself no favors. Yeah, they're 316 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:17,680 going to do a number on themselves. They have returned 317 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,519 the Liberal Party to power kind of sort of. It's 318 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,480 a little bit more nuanced than that, only because the 319 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:31,440 parliamentary electoral system is completely bananas. The Liberal Party has 320 00:19:31,599 --> 00:19:36,680 won the federal election in Canada, a culminating a process 321 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,759 marked by US President Donald Trump's threats on a trade 322 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:45,279 war and of making that country the fifty first American state, 323 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,200 which was just a joke, hahaha. It costs the Conservatives 324 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,599 their election. Maybe I don't know, I'm not an expert, 325 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,880 but the polling seems pretty clear. Like you look at 326 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,519 the trend lines and two major things, well three major 327 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:08,240 things happened. First off, Prime Minister blackface Trudeau resigned and 328 00:20:08,319 --> 00:20:12,960 put in place Mark Carney, who is I'm pretty sure 329 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,839 he's like, I'm not sure you could find a better 330 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,599 example of like the globalist, leftist, deletest guy than this guy. 331 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:23,880 But that's what they wanted. The heart wants what it 332 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,920 wants in Canada, and so they installed this dude to 333 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,599 finish out Trudeau's term. And then they hold the elections. 334 00:20:32,839 --> 00:20:36,039 This guy, Mark Carney, as far as I know, no 335 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,480 experience working in carnivals. But he wins. He wins again, 336 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:42,799 and so now he is going to be sort of 337 00:20:42,839 --> 00:20:45,440 in charge. And I say sort of because he's gonna 338 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:52,799 need some coalition of the minority parties that all also 339 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,440 took hits. So Trudeau resigns names Carney. The second thing 340 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,160 that happens then is Trump starts, you know, making these 341 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,359 jokes or comments, whatever you want to call them. I 342 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,480 don't know if they I don't know if it's a joke. 343 00:21:08,839 --> 00:21:11,680 I don't know if he was serious. I don't care either. 344 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,799 It doesn't matter to me because the impact on the 345 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,920 Canadian psyche was the same either way. They didn't apparently 346 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,480 view it as a joke. Much like I would think 347 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:25,079 that we wouldn't view it as a joke if another 348 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,839 country started talking about colonizing us, right, if they were like, yeah, 349 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,359 I'm gonna make America the well, I was gonna say, like, 350 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:37,000 how many states does Mexico have? Well, if Mexico started 351 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,319 talking about annexing us into it, right, we would take 352 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,720 it as unseerious, right obviously, but you know we would 353 00:21:45,759 --> 00:21:49,680 also kind of take a little bit of a bridge 354 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,720 at it. No, I would why because I'm an American. 355 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,000 I don't want to be a Mexican, don't. I don't 356 00:21:57,039 --> 00:22:00,119 like the idea that you're you know, banding about this 357 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,240 idea that you're going to absorb my country into yours. 358 00:22:03,279 --> 00:22:05,559 So I have to live under your set of rules now, 359 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,000 because I don't like your set of rules. I prefer 360 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,680 mine and I suspect a lot of Canadians felt the 361 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:18,279 same way, particularly the boomers, the Canadian boomers that age demographic. 362 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,559 They reacted the worst to Trump's comments about making Canada 363 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:28,519 the fifty first state. And then of course was the 364 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:33,039 trade war, the tariffs and everything else. And the conservative 365 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:37,759 in the race, Pierre Polives polieve whatever, whatever doesn't matter 366 00:22:37,839 --> 00:22:40,599 because he lost. He even lost his own seat. He 367 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,440 lost his own seat in parliament. I think they call 368 00:22:44,519 --> 00:22:48,880 them ridings instead of districts or something. He lost his 369 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:54,000 own seat and Trump is being blamed for this. Now 370 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,400 you know me, I'm not looking to blame Trump for everything. 371 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,119 I don't have TDS. I don't view the world through 372 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,440 the prism of Donald Trump. I have no idea if 373 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,920 if this was an anti Trump vote, it could have been, 374 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,759 because there are a lot of people that view everything 375 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:12,640 through the prism of Donald Trump. In Canada being packed 376 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,240 with a bunch of lefties, they probably do view everything 377 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,839 through the prism of Trump, because that's kind of the 378 00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:24,359 hallmark of being a lefty. Even though Trump's policies populist 379 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,759 policies are actually more like the old Democrat policies in America. 380 00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:32,920 They are more of like a Democrat kind of infused 381 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:36,599 ideology than a conservative one, which was one of the 382 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,039 reasons I didn't want Trump to be the Republican nominee 383 00:23:41,079 --> 00:23:45,720 all three times. I lost that argument all three times. 384 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,039 So the Liberal Party leader Mark Carney remains in the job. 385 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:55,079 He gets to form a new government with a new cabinet, 386 00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,839 but it is unclear if the Liberals will have a 387 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,799 majority in the Parliament, or whether they will need to 388 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:05,279 look for alliances with the other minority parties, which now 389 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,119 at this hour does appear to be the case. Where 390 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,480 is it here? Well, okay, this is the ap Canadians 391 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,359 voted for all three hundred and forty three members of 392 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,200 the House of Commons, one for each constituency, and a 393 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,720 party needs one hundred and seventy two seats for a majority. 394 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,039 The Prime Minister is then chosen by Parliament rather than 395 00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:32,160 elected directly by the voters. Okay, so this was not 396 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,839 some sort of a nationwide race between two guys. The 397 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,720 current Liberal leader is Carney, who was sworn in on 398 00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:43,599 March fourteenth as Prime Minister after Blackface Trudeau resigned. Now 399 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,039 he won a full term as the head of the government. Externally, 400 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,039 there was the Donald Trump effect. Internally, the new government 401 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,640 will still have to deal with issues like rising food 402 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,759 and housing prices and a surge in immigration. Think about this. 403 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,880 I think this is now the fourth election cycle that 404 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,799 the Liberals have won, despite the fact that food, housing, 405 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:15,960 and immigration are all surging. The price of food, the 406 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,519 price of housing, the number of immigrants coming into the country, 407 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,680 All of these things r out of control. People are like, 408 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,920 these are the biggest issues. Well, everybody but the boomers 409 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,039 like these are the biggest issues. So Carney is a 410 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,839 sixty year old economist educated in the US and England. 411 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,680 It was a Goldman Sachs executive. Then he started working 412 00:25:37,759 --> 00:25:40,039 for the Central Bank of Canada in two thousand and 413 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,519 three as a deputy governor. He was then the head 414 00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:46,119 of the Bank of Canada for five years and then 415 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,960 he headed to the Bank of England for seven years. 416 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,119 This is from the Daily Caller. Despite the Liberal victory, 417 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,039 voters denied the Liberal Party a majority govern as returns 418 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:06,119 project the rival Conservatives to score seats in the double digits. 419 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:09,119 As of this morning, the New York Times had called 420 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,519 one hundred and fifty four seats for Liberals, one hundred 421 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:16,240 and fifty two from the pre who held oh, they 422 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,319 held one fifty two. They picked up two seats. Conservatives 423 00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:22,200 won one hundred and thirty one seats. That is up 424 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,119 from the one to twenty. So it's an interesting shift 425 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,240 that has occurred here where the other parties, the minority 426 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:35,400 parties like the Quebec separatists, those guys that want Quebec 427 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,400 to be a breakaway country or whatever they or province 428 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,920 or whatever. I don't know, Like I said, not an 429 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,440 expert on Canadian politics, but these other smaller parties they 430 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:49,440 were pulling in a couple dozen seats apiece, and voters 431 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,960 now have sort of made this break to almost a 432 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:57,440 two party kind of a model. So as much as 433 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,519 they don't want to be America, they're starting to kind 434 00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,240 of vote like it. The center right Party is also 435 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:07,839 leading in an additional twelve seats that could bring its 436 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,880 grand total up to one forty three, and that means 437 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,960 that the Liberals are going to have to build a 438 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:21,720 coalition with some of these minority parties. The Bloc Quebecua, 439 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,960 a regional party which only fields candidates in the French 440 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,440 speaking province of Quebec, won the third most seats in parliament. 441 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:36,000 They lost ten. The left wing New Democratic Party the NDP, 442 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,200 they finished in fourth. 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Basically, you know generations, 471 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:25,240 So you got your sixty and over and then forty 472 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,359 five to fifty nine, thirty to forty four, eighteen to 473 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,079 twenty nine, so you got like fifteen year intervals there. 474 00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:37,440 So among the sixty in overcrowd in Canada, the number 475 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,720 one factor for them when they went to go vote yesterday, 476 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:50,440 the number one factor was dealing with Donald Trump number one. 477 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,680 That's the thing that motivated them the most. Number two, 478 00:29:55,599 --> 00:30:03,079 reducing your cost of living number three, improving Canada's healthcare system. 479 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,200 The worst, The lowest response for the boomers was making 480 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,839 Canada a better place to live. Yues, they think it's 481 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,839 fantastic already. Maybe I don't know. That was the worst 482 00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:24,799 or the lowest response. Second lowest, making housing more affordable, 483 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,039 right because they got their homes. Protecting public services and 484 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:37,359 managing the federal budget deficit and debt were the the 485 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,559 other factors. But when you look at all of the 486 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,440 other age demographics, literally all of them. Their number one 487 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,599 responses were reducing the cost of living. That was number 488 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,160 one for all of them, every other cohort number one. 489 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,400 And then they split all of their responses among the 490 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:06,559 different categories except for the young people ages eighteen to thirty. Basically, 491 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:10,240 so if you were in your twenties, dealing with Donald 492 00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:16,559 Trump was like among the lowest, so as the group 493 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,200 as the cohorts. When you look at this bar chart, 494 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:26,279 you see that as the respondents get older, the anti 495 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:34,559 Trump factor gets larger. Each cohort steps up, you know, 496 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,000 in the bar, like each bar for the millennials than 497 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:41,359 the Gen z's, and then the Y and Gen X 498 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,920 and boomers like each one goes up. So the older 499 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,640 you are the bigger factor Donald Trump was in your vote. 500 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,799 That's insane, people, Canada, That's insane. Jonathan Martin, writing at Politico, 501 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,400 He says, for months now, the dynamic of Monday's federal 502 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,480 election seemed enough to grasp, seemed easy enough to grasp 503 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480 on either side of the border. A campaign that had 504 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,920 been a referendum on former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's increasingly 505 00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:17,240 unpopular decade long tenure had once Trudeau stepped down become 506 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,559 a vote on who was best able to manage Donald 507 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:24,599 Trump his tariff arsenal and designs on annexing Canada. But 508 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,720 it isn't that simple. Canada has long had robust minor 509 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:31,559 parties that play a pivotal role in both provincial and 510 00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:35,119 federal politics, most notably the left wing New Democratic Party 511 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:41,319 and the Block Quebec HAH, which advocates for Quebecian nationalism 512 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Quebec Owen, Quebec Quebecian whatever. The effect of Trump's existential 513 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,480 threat has been to marginalize these parties, to render purity 514 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,000 politics or domestic questions as a bit like the clogged 515 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,519 sink disposal when the house is on fire. So they're 516 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,400 saying Trump is the house fire. Think about this. They 517 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:11,799 cannot afford their government right now. Is it is collapsing 518 00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:16,519 under its own weight. It has gone down the path 519 00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:21,279 of totalitarianism, and they think that Donald Trump is the 520 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:26,279 house burning down. Martin says it's hard to overstate how 521 00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,720 stung Canadians are by the teriff threats and Trump's incessant 522 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,839 talk of taking over their country an increasingly unfunny riff. 523 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200 He repeatedly he repeated again recently in the Oval Office 524 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,240 after not saying it for a few weeks. Basically, they 525 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:45,880 feel betrayed. They feel betrayed, and Gary says Canada wants 526 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,920 to be part of England again before anything to do 527 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,119 with the US. Let them go full socialists. That well, 528 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,319 they're on our border. And I have never had a 529 00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:59,079 problem with the Canadians. I never really mocked them, except 530 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,599 you know, for their pay, but then their penny became 531 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,519 more valuable than ours and so joke was on me. 532 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,359 But I don't have any ill will towards the Canadians. 533 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:11,559 I would prefer to not have a hostile country on 534 00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:15,360 my border. That's a very nice luxury to have, you know, 535 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,480 peaceful trading partners. People can you know, go across the 536 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,039 border back and forth and such. I've seen all those 537 00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:29,599 movies from the seventies and eighties up in Detroit where 538 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,079 the kids go across the bridge to get beers and such. 539 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:38,039 I've seen it. So there's value in that. That's not 540 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,679 to say that, you know, they get to walk all 541 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,119 over us and everything else. I would just have preferred 542 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,239 that there'd be somebody on that leading that country that 543 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:54,000 was trying to course correct away from the socialism. But 544 00:34:54,519 --> 00:35:01,280 as I said, the voters chose poorly. Mark Tiessen, who 545 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,519 is a co host of the What the Hell Is 546 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:07,559 Going On podcast and also former George W. Bush guy 547 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,320 he's a lawyer, says, if Canadians are so foolish that 548 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,760 they let trump hatred convince them to give Liberals a 549 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,320 disastrous fourth term, they have nobody to blame but themselves. 550 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,280 And they re elected Trudeau after he made Canada the 551 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,760 most locked down country in the world, long before Trump returned. 552 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,880 Pathetic excuse for a country. Whether you believe the tariffs 553 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,760 or Trump's mouth swung the election against the Conservatives up there. 554 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,280 Whether or not you believe that doesn't matter. The end 555 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,079 result is still the same. That's where we are. But 556 00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:42,039 Trump said he'd be you'd have an easier time negotiating 557 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:47,400 against the Liberal party, So there is that too. All right, 558 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,800 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 559 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,880 for listening. I could not do the show without your 560 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,679 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 561 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,519 the podcast, so if you'd like, please support them too 562 00:35:57,559 --> 00:35:59,239 and tell them you heard it here. You can also 563 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,840 become a patron at my Patreon page or go to 564 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,639 thepetecalanarshow dot com again, thank you so much for listening, 565 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,679 and don't break anything while I'm gone.