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Speaker 1: I love every single thing about that song. That is

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city Lights. That is the newest single single from Flair.

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I love it so much I can't even say single.

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You're on Matt condorton Unleashed and we've got so hopefully

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he's still there. Tony from the band I believe, has

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joined us via Microsoft Teams Tony, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm here. How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Hey? How are you? Man? Is it just you or

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is anybody else with you?

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Speaker 2: Just me today? Everyone else is working on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I completely understand. Welcome to the show. I

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love that song so much. By the way, we should

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mention too, you are the vocalist and how do you

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say your last name?

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Speaker 2: Call him? It's like Gollum from Lord of the Call him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, Hey, I love that song so much.

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We also played I think it was a couple of

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months ago now the time gets away from Me but

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run Away, which that was the first song of yours

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that we played. Another great track. But city Lights is amazing.

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That is so very catchy. Are you are you getting

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any traction with that at radio over there? I would

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imagine you are. If you're not, I'm sure it's coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got an email recently saying that, like in

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the first week of it being released, it's been on

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about sixty different shows over here. So it's doing pretty

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good so far, you know, and Spotify streams will hoefully

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be catching up with that as well soon.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, I'm not surprised because it's a

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very very strong track, very catchy. And then so, now

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is that from the EP, because you guys have an

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EP out right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, So this one's just a single. Our EP

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which came out a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 3: Now that was that included our songs Runaway, Sackering and.

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Speaker 1: Swan Gotcha, Gotcha? Okay, so those are on an EP. Now,

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so is city Lights going to be on? Are you

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working on another EP or is this going to remain

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a standalone single or do you even know yet?

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got a couple of more studio sessions books

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in a couple of months where we'll get another couple

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of songs done and from there I will decide they

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will include this and another EP or if we want

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to maybe use those two and another one.

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Speaker 2: So still be decided.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, how you know, and this is this

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is truer than it's ever been. There's so many different

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ways to approach it now in terms of how you release,

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how you release music, whether you do a single, whether

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you do an EP or a full album, or you

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can release a series of singles that eventually become an

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EP or an album. It's there's a lot of different

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ways to do it now. And but this is such

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a song, a strong track. Now, who wrote Who wrote

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city Lights? Did you guys write it together or did

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you write it or what's the what's the process like

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in the band as far as songwriting, Well, for a lot.

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in practice stations and just jamming together soil something kind

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of clicks and be all kind of getting a rhythm.

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But for this one particularly, it was actually I went

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to our bass player, Johnny's house and sort of just

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like a late night kind of songwriting session. The tubas

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kind of came up with the music in the lytics

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together mainly me lyrics and have music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's got a it's got a great

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vibe and it really kind of I'm curious is it

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about This might be a silly question, but is it

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about any particular city. Uh. And part of why I

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ask that is I'm someone who and maybe this is

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part of why the song appeals to me so much.

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I love Jenny knows this about me. I love images

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of city skylines at night. I just And it is

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some are prettier than others, but it can really be

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any city. I just I love. I love looking at

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city skylines at night. I love you know, the city lights.

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mind when you wrote this or is it? Am I

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am I thinking? Uh? Am? I getting too granular in

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terms of my analysis of the song.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm right there with you, man.

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Speaker 3: It's well, it's definitely inspired by our hometown Glasgow and

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here in Scotland.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of it's really like.

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Speaker 3: Just like general it's a lot of it's kind of

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about mental health as well, and you know, like try

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the mental health aspect of of what the song is about,

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because that's also something that we talk about a lot

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on this show. I'm a certified hypnotherapist, so I help

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people deal with some issues and and uh, you know,

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how how it affects so many people. And and maybe

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that's another thing that kind of subconsciously that I connect

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with with the song. But but can you can you

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kind of expand on that a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well, when I can write lyrics, I usually

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do it based on past experiences. I find it easier

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to reflect on them that way, and can I get

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you know, put words to it easier. So like the

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time of writing, I didn't feel this way, but like

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it reflects back on a time where I was feeling

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very anxious and not in the best place. And like

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at the time I wouldn't be able to come up

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with those kind of lytrics.

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Speaker 2: But like that's exactly like I.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't stand being around people all this hustle and bustle.

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I want to just you know, get away, go somewhere

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quiet where I could be alone.

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I think everybody, you know, I think that's uh, I

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think that's very very relatable. Do you find that, I

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mean just generally does does writing and performing music? Does

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that help you in terms of your own you know,

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whether you know you mentioned that at one point, you

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know you're feeling very anxious and whatnot? I mean, is

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that kind of because I always feel like creativity is

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the best therapy, right if you can, if you can

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take things that are bothering you and create something out

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of them, or if they spur you, or maybe it's

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not even maybe what you create has nothing to do

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with what's bothering you necessarily, but you're just creating something

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as a way of kind of getting through that, you know,

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the malaise or whatever it is.

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way of getting like how you're feeling out there, and

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emotion is a good way, you know, even after a

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while finally you know, help yourself get to a root

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cause of it, just looking and within yourself. But even

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at the same time, if it's not, as you said,

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directly addressed and an issue you're haven't, it's a good

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distraction as well, I.

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Speaker 1: Think, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now, when you brought city Lights

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to the other guys, because you and and Johnny wrote this,

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did they were they into it immediately? Were they like, oh,

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this is this is a hit? Or what did what?

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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, this is actually a song that we've been

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playing on stage for probably well over a year now. Okay,

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it's definitely we had tried to release it a couple

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we just felt.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, there's something missing from it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The I'm curious about the production too, and I'm

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kind of a recording. There's there's some very there's a

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lot of nuance here. You know, it's not like you

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guys just went in obviously and just you know, you

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just play the track and and and you know, there's

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there's some production flourishes, shall we say, especially at the end.

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like that too. Have you been working with the same

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producer and recording engineers, uh this whole time or or

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is is it a I'm curious about your your approach

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in terms of recording these songs, because like I said,

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it's you know, you're not You're not just going into

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a studio and handing somebody a bunch of money and

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just recording and you know there's more going on there.

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good producers over the years, but like Runaway and actually

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a lot of these just the kind of sounds that

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we are trying capture right now. But I think that

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music scene there. I would imagine there's a It seems

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at least in the US that we hear a lot

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that we're playing with. There's so many talented urs over here,

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where Oasis were discovered and so like that's like it's

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can imagine. And then so what's what's

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area or do you do you do you hit the road?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: What's Obviously you know, we're in the time of year

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when this is when everybody wants to be out touring, right,

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how's that been for you guys?

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we're stuck in the mud, like we were only getting

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Glasgow shows, which was great because, like I said, the

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music scene in Glasgow is amazing. But I'd say about

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a year ago, we've you know, we've ventured down south,

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we went to England, We've done you know, Manchester, Sheffield, Liverpool, Birmingham,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, festivals are definitely where it's at in terms of

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getting exposure and and and building a fan base in

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terms of your your your live presentation. So that's that's great,

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that's really good to hear. That's when you guys play

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a backlog of originals that you haven't covered, I mean

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that you haven't recorded yet. But I mean, what do

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ticketed events where people are just like looking at here

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sort of original music. But because that we kind of

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lot of our older songs. So we do throw in

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it's actually, if we're not doing a handline show, we're

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just supporting someone and we've got half an hour, we

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only really want to do our own songs.

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Speaker 1: Sure, no, that makes sense, That makes sense absolutely if

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you've got an open for anybody, uh really any any

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sort of national or international touring acts yet going through

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your area?

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Speaker 2: Not yet, but what's trying. Yeah no, that's a dream.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, it's gonna I want to, you know, go

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and you know, like go out and travel somewhere in

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Europe and beyond, and you're like going a proper tour.

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Speaker 2: That would be great.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I think it's gonna happen for you.

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I mean, you guys are you're definitely going in the

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right direction. So and uh, like I said, these are

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such great songs, and you know, keep putting out great

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music and keep doing what you're doing, and I you'll

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you'll definitely continue to progress. I have no doubt about that.

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By the way, where does the name Flair come from?

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Speaker 2: So it's a funny story. It's actually nowhere needs excited.

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Speaker 3: It's from the video game in FIFA, okay, And it's

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basically it's like it was basically one of the one

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of the traits that you can put on, like your

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creative players, is called flair, and it just means like

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they're a bit more skillful, a bit more flashy.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Oh that's cool.

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Speaker 2: It was actually that's the story.

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Speaker 3: I've been told that it was actually already called flair

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before I joined the band.

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Speaker 1: So oh okay, well if that's what you were told,

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I mean it sounds like that's the official story. So

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that's cool. Good deal. So where should people, Tony? Where

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should people go online to keep up with everything that

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you guys were doing. Where's the best place for people

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to go? Because you've got a lot of great stuff happening.

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Speaker 3: So mainly we use Instagram right now, which are handled

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for that is at flair band, and then we use

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Twitter as well, that's at flair Band zero one four

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one as well, And those are kind of the main

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two social medias that we're using right now to kind

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of like, you know, get out, like where we're going

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to be playing, what songs are coming out all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but and do you have any any idea when

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the next single is gonna be out or I don't

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know if you've started have you started working on the

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next one yet, or I know you're focused on city Lights.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so once we're kind of done today alas,

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we do have.

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Speaker 3: Either October or November that we're going in for two

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more recordings, and we're gonna be looking to release them,

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you know, as soon as possible. Ones we've recorded them,

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so definitely by the end of the year we'll have

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two more songs.

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. Well, we look forward to doing that, We

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look forward to hearing that, rather, I should say, and

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we look forward to playing those so fantastic. So I

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think what we're gonna do, Tony is we will end

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the segment with I'm gonna play Runaway, which is another

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great track and then I'm gonna cheat a little bit.

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I'm gonna play Runaway, but then I'm also gonna play

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city Lights one more time because I love that song

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so much and selfishly I want to hear it. And plus,

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you know how radio works. I mean, there's there's people

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who didn't hear the start of the show who are

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just joining the show now so then they'll be able

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to hear it. But I that song is so addictive.

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It's one of those songs. It's you know, like a

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lot of people, I wake up with a song in

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my brain every morning, like as soon as my eyes

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pop open, as soon as I even start to wake up,

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there's something playing in my head. So I have this

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little playlist in my brain, and that's one of the

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songs that the first time I heard it. For several

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days after hearing it the first time, that's one of

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the songs that was stuck in my head when I

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would wake up in the morning, I would hear that.

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It's just so catchy, it's absolutely infectious. So after Runaway,

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I'm going to play that one more time as well.

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But we will definitely do this again in the future, because,

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like I said, you guys are on a very positive

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trajectory and happy to you know, we're happy to support

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you here on the American side anyway that we can.

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So Tony, we will let you go and I'm going

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to hit that track. But thank you so much for

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joining us today, and we'll talk again soon. I'm sure

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no prov look forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, you got it. Thank you, take care,

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bye bye, bye bye. All right, wonderful. That was Tony

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column from the band Flair