WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:07.080 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:18.039 Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick coffee. 3 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:21.480 All right, let's get it start at the five o'clock 4 00:00:21.519 --> 00:00:25.120 hour here on a beautiful Thursday afternoon. Coffee and company 5 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:27.359 that is us. We are fueled by Thornton's here on 6 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.839 Sports Talk seven ninety one more hour left and we're 7 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.039 gonna get it. Started off with the one and the only, 8 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.719 mister Kent Spencer from w h A S eleven. How 9 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:36.560 we do it on this beautiful afternoon Kent. 10 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.000 Man, I've loved it. I've been loving this fall break 11 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.880 for my kids being nice a little bit, having a 12 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.759 little bit of fun and then and then trying to 13 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:47.000 get after it the office. 14 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:49.600 Did you get a full week fall break when you 15 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:51.119 were a kid, because I didn't. 16 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:53.119 Oh, these things didn't exist. 17 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:55.039 We got like two days off. I think like we 18 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:56.679 would get a Thursday and a Friday, and I don't 19 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.200 think they would call it fall break. They would call 20 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:01.159 it something like, you know, teacher, the teachers had to work, 21 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:02.679 but we didn't have to go to school. Now they 22 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.239 get I mean they get a fall break, a big 23 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:06.239 winter break, and a spring break. These kids don't know 24 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:06.920 how good they have it. 25 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:11.079 Yeah, no, no, no, they completely take take advantage of it. 26 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:14.280 I love the fact that like if you have when 27 00:01:14.280 --> 00:01:17.000 you have like kids in high school sports, which which 28 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.280 I have a daughter now, and you get a fall 29 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.879 break and all these families who kind of aren't used 30 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.840 to how athletics you know, works, and they're like, oh 31 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:29.840 my god, they're making them practice during during fall break, 32 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.159 and I'm like, yeah, they're in season, that's how this works. 33 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:34.719 They're like, well, we booked. 34 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.920 A vacation, and yeah, I guess if you only play 35 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.079 like fall sports, then you know, you don't have to 36 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:42.560 worry about that when it comes to the spring break. 37 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:44.760 But yeah, even basketball, Like I mean, you get winter 38 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:47.000 break and basketball is still going on. So yeah, I 39 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.000 guess the parents that are new to it, they're learning. Yeah, 40 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:51.319 despite a school break, there's still I mean, heck, they're 41 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.040 in the there're most of these fall sports are in 42 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:54.599 the are in the middle of a of a season, 43 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:57.519 probably at a at a crucial time. So uh yeah, 44 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:00.319 I'm envious of I'd love a fall break, just not 45 00:02:00.319 --> 00:02:02.439 not taking it doesn't take away from my vacation, Like 46 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.040 I still got all my vacation days. But we would 47 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.040 just get to get two weeks off at Christmas, a 48 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:08.080 week off in the fall, week off in spring. The 49 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:10.759 schedule that kids have when they're in school, they don't 50 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:12.240 realize how good they have it when they have to 51 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:15.080 start working forty hours a week. You know, it's a 52 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:18.919 different world. But you were in South Bend, right, I was. 53 00:02:19.080 --> 00:02:19.159 So. 54 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.280 I believe you said last week it was gonna be 55 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:22.960 your first time there. Am I wrong about that? 56 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:24.000 No? 57 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.080 No, no, it was. It was my first time in 58 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.479 ten years ago. I was there in twenty fourteen, gotcha? 59 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:29.840 Okay? 60 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:31.680 So I was there for that one, and then I 61 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.879 was there for this past Saturday. 62 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.240 So before we get to the game itself, which was 63 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:38.599 just a real head scratcher as far as all the mistakes, 64 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.960 but it sounds like they made some big improvements from 65 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.319 the last time most Louisville fans went ten years ago. 66 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:46.639 It's still, you know, viewed as an all time destination, 67 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:48.599 I think, just because of the history. But I remember 68 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:50.479 hearing in twenty fourteen that like it was kind of 69 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:52.680 a dump, and this time around it's much better. 70 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.199 Can I And let me just be honest with you. 71 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:59.719 I think about like twenty fourteen, Like I remember the 72 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:02.199 night before because we went actually down there on a 73 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.159 Friday to do stuff for the for the shows that night, 74 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:08.879 and there was snow on the ground. It was like 75 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:13.280 icye It was cold that weekend, like it was the weather. 76 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:18.039 The difference in weather it was was astonishing. And as 77 00:03:18.039 --> 00:03:20.240 far as all the logistics and stuff like that, like 78 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:24.960 from our end, I think that ended up being being fine. 79 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.560 But I think I probably didn't come away as impressed 80 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.520 the last time as I as I was this time 81 00:03:32.639 --> 00:03:35.919 with the whole just kind of game day vibe and 82 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:40.159 game day experience. The way that I would probably sum 83 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:43.639 it up is like there's so much history and so 84 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.960 much nostalgia that's all over the place there, but it 85 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:51.879 also feels like super modern. And as I was kind 86 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.520 of walking, you know, like going to the stadium where 87 00:03:54.560 --> 00:03:56.439 we were parked, and you're kind of walking through the 88 00:03:56.439 --> 00:04:00.960 tailgate area, like everything seemed almost like a mac and clean, 89 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.840 even like the tailgate areas and things like that. So 90 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:07.039 I was I was super impressed. I love the fact 91 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:08.919 that the stadium is just kind of right there and 92 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:13.840 people just they walk around in certain events are going 93 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.480 like you know, whether it's touchdown Jesus or the grotto 94 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:20.199 or other other places, like everybody has kind of torn 95 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.240 stuff and hanging out on campus. I think that's that's 96 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:27.079 that's cool, and it really kind of makes you feel 97 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.160 that that college football vibe. 98 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.319 Yeah, so I'm I'm a weirdo. I've been twice, but 99 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.000 both times it was for basketball games and not for football. 100 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:37.199 But obviously you can still take in the campus and 101 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:39.560 the Joy Center is really really nice. I don't know 102 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:41.040 if you've got a chance to ever if if you've 103 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.519 ever gone in there, but yeah, the campus is cool. 104 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.519 It's certainly got a lot of history in nostalgia, and 105 00:04:46.560 --> 00:04:48.079 I know a lot of Louisville fans made the trip. 106 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:50.600 I'm not sure how it compares to other you know, 107 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.079 fan bases that make it a destination to go there, 108 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.079 but a lot of those fans that went, their drive 109 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:59.480 back was was probably as frustrating as they've had felt 110 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:01.240 after a lot of losses. Losing it Notre Dame by 111 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:03.680 a touchdown is just you know, happens to most teams. 112 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:05.600 In fact, regardless of how much you lose by most 113 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.160 teams they go up to South Bend and play, they 114 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:09.920 don't leave with the victory. What's more surprising to you 115 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:14.439 the amount of unforced just you know, head scratching mistakes 116 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:16.839 that Louisville made, or the fact that they made all 117 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:19.399 those mistakes and yet still had a chance to win. 118 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:20.920 I mean it's a weird game, man. 119 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:25.720 Yeah, you know, I kind of look at mistakes because 120 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:27.839 you know, they had been so perfect when it came 121 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:31.079 to turnovers kind of coming into the game, and and 122 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.199 and when you're in sports long enough, you're like, man, 123 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:34.759 this this stuff kind of evens out. 124 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.680 Yeah, you're due. And some of the breaks that went 125 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.920 their way against Georgia Tech, I mean they went the 126 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:41.560 other way against against Notre Dame. 127 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.000 Yeah, And so like I kind of I kind of 128 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:47.680 compare all these things to like a golf scorer. You know, 129 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.600 like so many times you look at your golf score 130 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:52.079 and you're like, man, I could have done this better. 131 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:53.879 I could have done this better, could have done this better. 132 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:57.560 It probably even out right, like you know, some of 133 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.480 those turnovers that that Louisville had, you know, Notre Dame 134 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:02.600 had some silly fumbles too, you know, Like I always 135 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.319 I always kind of look at all these things kind 136 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:07.360 of kind of even and out. But but that being said, 137 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:10.639 they dug themselves such a hole, and it was I 138 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:13.600 think at one point it was it was twenty one 139 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.759 to seven, and I think Notre Dame had the ball, 140 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:19.279 like you're in big time trouble right there, and they 141 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:21.480 were able to kind of flip the script and get 142 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.399 back into it. So I would imagine, you know, Jeff 143 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:26.800 Brohm and and the cards, and even like Tyler Schuck 144 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:28.160 was like, look, we look at this game as a 145 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.160 game that we beat ourselves that and it's hard to 146 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.079 argue kind of against that. And and not just with 147 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:37.800 the turnovers. I would argue with like, you know, maybe 148 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.680 some of the play calls that happened in certain situations 149 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:42.959 like there was just there was just a lot of 150 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:46.759 different things. But yet they still gave themselves a chance 151 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:49.040 to at least tie the game, you know, and the 152 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:51.600 and the closing minute you know of that game. 153 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:55.360 Yeah, and I think, you know, just the rapid reaction 154 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:57.160 as soon as the game ends, we go live here 155 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.519 for the postgame show, and I think even this week 156 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:01.120 it's kind of lingered. But it was the first time 157 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:05.120 Louisville fans during the Jeff bram Era were frustrated with 158 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.720 a loss where you felt like some decisions he made 159 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:10.879 were a big factor, and you know, Jeff had a 160 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:12.959 bad day. I don't I don't think anybody would disagree. 161 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.199 I think he would agree. And it's just not something 162 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:17.079 that you've said before as a Louisville fan, not to 163 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:19.120 say he's been perfect. Clearly he's had I mean, they 164 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.439 lost games last year and coaching is always a factor 165 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.000 in that, but it was just just I felt like 166 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:27.040 they would be ready to play, would be clean and 167 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:29.680 not and not make those mistakes. But you're right, you know, 168 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:31.720 at some point, you're It's just part of the game. 169 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.360 It happens. It's not just football, it's sports. But it 170 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:37.079 was worth something to see them make plays and fight 171 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:38.959 back and have a chance to win. But man, those 172 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.680 mistakes just never seem to end. The interception in the 173 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.759 second half, which was easily avoidable, and then you know 174 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:46.639 the debacle at the end where you get the delay. 175 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:49.240 A game just a sloppy game overall. That's the word 176 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:51.399 Jeff used quite a bit in his postgame press conference 177 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.120 and even earlier this week and in his weekly press conference. 178 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.399 So I guess my next question is is it safe 179 00:07:57.439 --> 00:07:59.399 to say or fair to say that Louisville from a 180 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.319 personnelse standpoint four games in, you know, you don't seem 181 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.680 to have any huge concerns. I think the pass protection 182 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:08.040 wasn't great for Tyler Shuck. But if you're looking for 183 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:09.759 a reason as a level of fan to be optimistic, 184 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:11.519 I don't think you can look at your players and 185 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.720 your talent level and feel like, well, you know, we 186 00:08:13.800 --> 00:08:15.879 just don't have the pieces or the guys that can 187 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:18.360 compete at the top of the acc It's just about 188 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:20.480 finding a way to put together a clean game. 189 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:24.720 And it's and it's and it's trying to find the 190 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.279 most consistent game as you can as you can find, 191 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:33.799 because there's no I wouldn't put like, look at one 192 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.480 position group and say, man, there is a glaring weakness there. 193 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.399 They've got to mat these guys because they're not any good. Now. 194 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.879 They're not perfect. Nobody is. Everybody makes mistakes. I mean, 195 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.360 you know, pass protection can be pretty good at times, 196 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.559 but guess what it can break down. That's just football, 197 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.879 and and all of that stuff is the same, you know, 198 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:56.080 whether it's offensive line or whether that's assignments. You know 199 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.799 early on in the game, and by the way, some 200 00:08:58.879 --> 00:09:01.240 of those assignments creeped up later in the game, like 201 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:03.320 sometimes you're gonna have a bust, but can you make 202 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.519 up for the bust? So no, I don't think from 203 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:10.919 a personnel standpoint like I have, I have great concerns. 204 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:17.480 It's just like, how do you play situationally and time, score, momentum, 205 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:20.240 all of that stuff, Like, you know, because cause you're 206 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:23.639 gonna you're gonna play against teams that are built in 207 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:27.399 a very similar fashion, how do you can you make 208 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.960 those plays in the moments? You know? Last year and 209 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:34.159 Jeff you know, Brown says this all the time, like, look, 210 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:35.840 they got into a lot of tight games in the 211 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:38.840 fourth quarter. They were able to make the winning plays 212 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.600 in the fourth quarter. Can this group be able to 213 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.200 do the exact same thing this year going forward? Because 214 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:47.120 there's still gonna be in a lot of tight games 215 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:50.600 in the fourth quarter moving forward this season. I firmly 216 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:51.360 believe that. 217 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.559 I'm with you and you know last year, I think, 218 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:57.440 you know, this is just something I as somebody who 219 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.240 you know loves sports and I played growing up. I 220 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.600 feel like if you find yourselves in close games late, 221 00:10:03.639 --> 00:10:06.519 but you consistently can find ways to dig deep and 222 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:09.080 make the place to win and get out. Some would say, man, 223 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:11.519 you're due for a loss, or it's luck, But also 224 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:13.200 I think that's a skill and a trait that a 225 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.720 team can develop to stick with it. And they did 226 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:17.399 it last year from start to finish. They had their 227 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:19.600 backs against the wall against Georgia Tech in a major way. 228 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:21.639 And really, as you mentioned, there were many games last 229 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:23.840 year where they made the winning plays to get it done. 230 00:10:23.919 --> 00:10:26.039 But this year, you know, so far they've been in 231 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:28.879 I guess maybe two of those games. The Georgia Tech 232 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:30.799 game was also kind of weird, how it just you know, 233 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.440 you thought it was going to be maybe a field 234 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.600 goal that wonted, and yet Louisville won and covered. But yeah, 235 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.759 with SMU on the schedule coming up Saturday, I mean, 236 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.879 is that really the point of emphasis? Just kind of 237 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:45.519 tightening some things up and not hurting yourself so much 238 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.039 because you know, you look at the box score from 239 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.320 last week, I mean, they were pretty damn good other 240 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:51.200 than those turnovers. 241 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:55.360 Yeah, and look, you know against Georgia Tech too, you 242 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:58.879 know you're you've got plays that Louisville was able to make. 243 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:03.879 I always said, like big momentum changing plays against Georgia 244 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:07.320 Tech Louisville dominated those moments, and there are moments that 245 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:09.960 you really don't account for, right Like, can you really 246 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.240 account for Haines King making that play and then you 247 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.440 getting a you get in a scoop and score touchdown 248 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:16.759 or like an interception or pick six or whatever it was, 249 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.720 right Like, you can't really account for those things. Do 250 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.440 you really account for the block field goal that lands 251 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.440 right in your dude's arms and he could just you know, 252 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:29.000 he can make a house? Yeah, Like like you those 253 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.360 are things that like you don't draw up now. You 254 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:33.519 have to be aggressive and you have to be ready 255 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:36.960 to attack those moments. But those are those are some 256 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.440 of those plays that like, hey, it just went in 257 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.759 your favor on that day. But like against an SMU, 258 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:46.799 like you know, one of the things are like the 259 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:49.759 busts early on in games. I know that that really 260 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:53.639 has bothered Brohm so far this season. Can you tighten 261 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.840 that up? Can you make it? Can you make it hard? 262 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:01.039 Especially in your house against an SMU team that has 263 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:04.120 to be quite honest with you, looked really really impressive 264 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:08.039 so far this season. Because remember when we were looking 265 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.279 we were talking about Louisville versus Georgia Tech they they 266 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.960 won a hard fought game against Florida State, and we 267 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:15.799 were like, I don't know how much that win looks. 268 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.080 SMU smashed Florida State. 269 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:19.440 Yea, they embarrassed. 270 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.360 So this is like we're talking about something you know, 271 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.440 completely different, and you know, the Notre Dame game. I'm 272 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.279 sure this is the one thing that and I remember, 273 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:31.519 like Charlie Strong used to say this all the time, 274 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:34.960 don't let a game beat you twice. You know, like 275 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:37.559 you know, you can have a game that you felt 276 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.639 like you should have had and maybe it slips away. 277 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.639 Don't let it beat you twice. One of the things 278 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:44.919 that I would say in the in the postgame news 279 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.919 conference after Notre Dame is is whether it was Jared 280 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.600 Dawson or whether it was Colin Lacey, Like they fully 281 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:53.679 grasped the fact that, yes, this is one loss, but 282 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:56.679 we still have everything in front of us that we 283 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.279 want to accomplish this year. We can still win the 284 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:03.399 ACC Football Playoff. It's all still it's all still right there. 285 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.679 It's a bump in the road, but I still felt 286 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.360 that they were very confident. They need to be that way. 287 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:13.799 On Saturday, Kent Spencer of WHS eleven is our guest 288 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.480 joining us here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Let's switch 289 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.360 gears here to Kentucky, who's coming off of easily one 290 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:22.679 of the biggest wins that Mark Stoops has had in 291 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.159 his time at Kentucky. And obviously, you know, we'll see 292 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:27.039 how the rest of the season plays out with both 293 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:28.879 these teams. And I'm not here to say that, you know, 294 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:30.919 ole Miss isn't going to be great, because I mean, 295 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:32.840 I think they've got a chance to be really, really 296 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.279 good this year. But what I took away from that 297 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.960 game kent was that I feel like as much as 298 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:40.960 Mark Stoops gets criticized for conservative play and just some 299 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.080 of the decisions he makes, and you know, coaches get 300 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.519 criticism whenever you lose, that's part of it. But I 301 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.360 felt like that was really a masterclass by Mark Stoops 302 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:51.159 because they were able to play that game at a 303 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:53.519 pace that really almost felt like ole Miss never really 304 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:55.600 got the game started. They got a touchdown drive at 305 00:13:55.639 --> 00:13:56.799 the beginning of the game, and then I think they 306 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:58.480 did the same thing in the second half, and really 307 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.840 from then on they were never really full comfortable. I mean, 308 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:04.320 they got one loss that's just a real head scratcher. 309 00:14:04.360 --> 00:14:07.399 That's South Carolina played Georgia close and then they and 310 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.360 they picked up a monster win. I mean, I actually 311 00:14:10.399 --> 00:14:12.559 think Kentucky's got a chance to be pretty damn good. 312 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:13.879 I don't know if the record will show it, because 313 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:17.320 they still have Tennessee and Texas and Louisville and whatnot. 314 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:21.279 But I think it's wild to see Kentucky now compared 315 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.159 to where we were talking about him after that South 316 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.000 Carolina loss. As you said, it wouldn't have been a 317 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:27.720 shock to anybody if the bottom completely fell out, bottoming that. 318 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.240 Well, and there's a you know, it's a funny thing 319 00:14:31.320 --> 00:14:33.480 like when you look at their schedule up to this point, 320 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.559 their record is what you thought it would be. 321 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.320 Yeah, just it's just swapped, right. They should have beat 322 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.519 South Carolina. Everybody thought they were gonna lose, do all miss, Yeah, 323 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:42.879 and then you had and then you had a very 324 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:45.120 competitive game against Georgia that nobody would have expected. 325 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:48.360 I don't think, and nobody thought and nobody thought they 326 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.360 were going to be competitive against Georgia, you know, and 327 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:52.600 I I sure didn't, And I didn't think they had 328 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:54.919 a chance to go down there and beat Old Miss. 329 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.559 I mean, you know, one of the things that I 330 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.759 think when you look at them, and it's it's pretty 331 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:02.320 clear to see right now, like their defense is really good. 332 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.799 It's nasty. It looks like an NFL defense with the upfront, 333 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:06.639 the size they've got. 334 00:15:06.679 --> 00:15:10.840 It's crazy, it's it's it's really really good. And you know, 335 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:12.840 so far to this point, and we'll see if this, 336 00:15:13.080 --> 00:15:17.159 if this is something that that continues. Is like, man, 337 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.080 when they when they get you, you're they bring you 338 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.159 to the ground. And I know that sounds like simple enough, 339 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.639 but how many mistackles do you see in college football? 340 00:15:25.759 --> 00:15:28.759 And like they're they're pretty sure tacklers and when they 341 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.200 get there, they've got some bad intentions, which is what 342 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.679 you what you have to do. And so I think 343 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:38.120 their defense is really really good. After that South Carolina game, 344 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:41.440 whether it was via injuries or maybe making some change ups, 345 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:44.039 I think that they has they have shared some things 346 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:47.440 up on that offensive line. They've gotten better there. They 347 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:49.759 still have a ways to go, but it's gotten better. 348 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.440 And I'm gonna be guilty as charged. Like we were 349 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:56.480 up in the press box at South Bend and they 350 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.600 had the game on up there, so we were we 351 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.600 were watching it then and even against maybe like against 352 00:16:02.600 --> 00:16:04.720 Georgia he made some of these throws and then last 353 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:08.799 week against Ohio, Like, I think the more he plays 354 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.279 and the more confidence he gets because he's been a 355 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.879 backup his whole life, Like Brock Vandergriff's got talent. 356 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.080 Yeah, tough kid. 357 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.759 Yeah, he's a tough kid. So I think they found 358 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:22.159 somebody there, right, Like, I think they found somebody that 359 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.279 they feel really good about, you know, going for the 360 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.000 rest of the season. I don't know what it needs. 361 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.799 I feel like the next three weeks after this by week, 362 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:32.519 and I can be wrong on a place or two, 363 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:34.480 I think they got They got Vanderbilt at home. I 364 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.759 think they go to Florida and maybe have Auburn at home. 365 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.000 That's a big three game stretch for them because it 366 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.919 really gets, you know, things, the Screws really start to 367 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:45.840 tighten down the stretch of their season. And so that's 368 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:51.039 a that's a big three weeks for that program moving forward. Obviously, 369 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.240 Max Harrison, it doesn't look like he's going to be 370 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.039 back anytime soon. That's going to be a big loss 371 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.480 at the secondary. But you know what, they played pretty 372 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.720 well without even Old Miss. But you know, and one 373 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:03.399 of the things in the old miss game and it's 374 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.839 almost like we'll even go back to Louisville Notre Dame 375 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.200 if you don't mind for a second. Like Mark Stoops 376 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:09.720 kind of had to change the stripes a little bit 377 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.960 in that game, right, Like he had to, like they 378 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:13.759 slowed it down and they dumbed it down, but right 379 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.079 like he had to make some gutty calls and he 380 00:17:16.119 --> 00:17:18.160 had to make some gutty decisions and do some gutty 381 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:20.559 things in order for them to be able to pull 382 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:23.440 off that win. Like he had to change his stripes 383 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.559 just a little bit. Now on the flip side, you know, 384 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:30.119 like I thought, Jeff Brohman and Louisville Notre Dame, Like 385 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:32.319 there was moments where I was like I wouldn't make 386 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.559 that call, but you know what, he would, and his 387 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:36.880 fan base loves him for it because you know, like 388 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:39.400 Jeff is going to be super aggressive and that's just 389 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:41.599 the way it is. And you may at times you 390 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:44.240 may disagree with it, but guess what, if it works, 391 00:17:44.440 --> 00:17:46.039 you're gonna love it, you know what I mean. Like 392 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:48.759 that's just the way that that he is on how 393 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.960 he goes about his his game plan. But with Stoops, 394 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:56.000 he's always so so conservative and he had to try 395 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:57.680 to change it around a little bit to get his 396 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:58.680 team over the hump. 397 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:01.279 And it paid off. I would imagine if your stoops, 398 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:03.480 you know, you were able to see Okay, yeah, if 399 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:05.880 we do take a risk, I've got some weapons that, 400 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:07.920 you know, make that decision a little bit easier. Barion 401 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:10.880