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<v Speaker 1>And that's when he heard someone screaming for rescue from

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<v Speaker 1>the fire inside. He ran up the stairs to tell someone,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said when he entered the control room, he

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<v Speaker 1>was the first person to open that door in three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Get ready for a campfire story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle, and we'll share spooky stories with

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<v Speaker 1>playful banter that'll keep you up at night.

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<v Speaker 2>So throw some wood on the fire and put a

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<v Speaker 2>wiener on a stick. We're telling you a campfire story tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>So a little while back, I listened to this one show.

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<v Speaker 2>I already told you about it, Celebrity Go Story.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to explain the Office to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the other show I guess that I watch,

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<v Speaker 2>like aside from the Office, it's this one. Anyway, he

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<v Speaker 2>really got me thinking about how all these stories develop

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<v Speaker 2>a haunted mansion, Like all these plays are so like

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<v Speaker 2>rich people, and you know that I'm not really into

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity stuff, right, Like I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Not into you don't know who anyone is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't identify them. I think I can identify

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Lopez most of the time. Shakira, Shakira, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, like Basically the show is this person sits

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<v Speaker 2>in front of a camera and just tells a story

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<v Speaker 2>that they had, like a ghost story, and they do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they get actors and they do the whole re.

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<v Speaker 1>When you cite celebrity, I mean, what level are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. It's not j Low on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, this one's from Daniel Stern. You know who

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<v Speaker 2>that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's the He's one of the robbers in

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<v Speaker 1>Home Alone. He also did the grown up voice on

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<v Speaker 1>The Wonder Ears.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you watched The Wonder Years? No, then it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, this guy begins his story of a trip

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<v Speaker 2>through the English moors with his wife. This is in

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<v Speaker 2>the eighties. Sometimes they rented a car and they were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna dry through the countryside. They wanted to go to

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<v Speaker 2>a town called Tavistock to stay at a bed and breakfast,

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<v Speaker 2>and they end up at this town called Whittacombe to

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<v Speaker 2>see a church there. They get there, there's nothing much around.

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<v Speaker 2>They pull in and then they see a church. So

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<v Speaker 2>they were excited about it. They're like, wow, cool, let's

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<v Speaker 2>go check it out. Whatever, right, so they start walking

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<v Speaker 2>around they're exploring and they suddenly begin to notice that

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<v Speaker 2>people are walking around, but they're walking very like awkwardly

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<v Speaker 2>looking straight ahead like zombies. That's what he said. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was talking and they were being completely ignored, like they

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<v Speaker 2>were just walking past them. Everybody's slow and everyone dressed

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<v Speaker 2>in black. Of course, they decided to get the heck

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<v Speaker 2>out of there, like we need to find out how

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<v Speaker 2>do we get to Tavistock to the bed and breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when they see a woman that she's standing

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<v Speaker 2>kind of by the church and they want to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you for directions, and she's turning away from them. She

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<v Speaker 2>turns around and she stares at them with white eyes

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<v Speaker 2>like no color in the circley part of the high

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<v Speaker 2>and she begins to speak in tongues. They both stand there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just like like they're kind of freaking out, but

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<v Speaker 2>she's still talking, so like they're kind of there. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be rude because they're in England. And

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<v Speaker 2>then they take off straight to the car. They start

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<v Speaker 2>driving away and just a few minutes later, like they're

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<v Speaker 2>driving like if they're about a mile away, probably a

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<v Speaker 2>tire pox the guy this straight up movie scene, right

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<v Speaker 2>like the guy says, hey, we should probably head back

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<v Speaker 2>and get it fixed, and the wife is like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we're driving like that right, So they keep driving like

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<v Speaker 2>they drive on the rim, like they're not stopping. So

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<v Speaker 2>they finally make it Tavis Stock and they late to

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<v Speaker 2>the reservation and then it tells them, yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 2>at this place called Whittocomb, and the attendant it's like, Whittocomb,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, that place is a ghost town. Don't go there.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of dead people walk around. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he tells the story of a church, the actual church

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<v Speaker 2>that they wanted to see. Turns out that one night,

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<v Speaker 2>a Sunday, there was a lot of thunder lightning and

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<v Speaker 2>there was service at the church. There was a terrible storm.

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<v Speaker 2>Lightning suddenly struck like the roof and the steeple felt

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<v Speaker 2>it was burning. Four people died, and it was like

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<v Speaker 2>the story of the town. It was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll put it on the map. They have artist depictions

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<v Speaker 2>of what happened the burning of the church, but since

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<v Speaker 2>then they say that place is haunted. Celebrity Gold Stories

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<v Speaker 2>had runs and reruns and I just kept playing because

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<v Speaker 2>it was a really popular episode. Of course I looked

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<v Speaker 2>it up to see what about whocomb is it haunted?

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out that the local town historian was overwhelmed

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<v Speaker 2>with these requests. They're like, you know, who are you

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever? They kept replying. So instead what he did

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<v Speaker 2>to all these replies, all these people reaching out to him,

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<v Speaker 2>He replied in this like blog post and in his

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<v Speaker 2>repply he put hello America, like basically talking to America.

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<v Speaker 2>On Sunday, twenty first October sixteen thirty eight, when the

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<v Speaker 2>church was full for a service, the terrible thunderstorm threatened

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<v Speaker 2>the valley. One of the four pinnacles of the church

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<v Speaker 2>tower was struck by lightning, with a result that it

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<v Speaker 2>came crashing through the roof of the church and killed

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<v Speaker 2>four people, one an ancestor of mine, Susannah Beard. Parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the tower were found in the manor house garden

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred yards away to the north, and considerable damage

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<v Speaker 2>was done. The schoolmaster at the time was a Richard Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>and he wrote a detailed summary of the event. We

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<v Speaker 2>understand that his manuscripts in the Bodleian Library of Oxford University,

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<v Speaker 2>regarding the people dressed in black. In rural areas of Devon,

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<v Speaker 2>when there is a funeral of someone local or well known,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the local people turned out to pay their

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<v Speaker 2>last respects to the departed. It is possible that when

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<v Speaker 2>the TV presenter was in the village an event of

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<v Speaker 2>this kind was taking place and we would all have

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<v Speaker 2>been in solemn or somber mood. Our church is dedicated

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<v Speaker 2>to Saint Pancras, and due to its large size, it

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<v Speaker 2>is affectionately known as the Cathedral of the Moor. In

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<v Speaker 2>its present form it dates from the fourteenth century, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is little doubt in my mind that there has

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<v Speaker 2>been a church here for much longer, even to the

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<v Speaker 2>point that it was a religious significance in pre Christian days.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a great deal of prehistoric evidence here in Dartmoor.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally collect prehistoric implements and tools. In the earliest

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<v Speaker 2>that I have dates from eight thousand BC. There is

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<v Speaker 2>no Roman evidence here, but there was Roman activity within

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<v Speaker 2>eight miles of here, and of course in Exeter, our

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<v Speaker 2>county town. On the second Tuesday of September each year

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<v Speaker 2>we hold the annual Whittacombe Fair. People come from all

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<v Speaker 2>over the world to this special day when animals are shown,

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<v Speaker 2>sporting events take place, and the history of the area

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<v Speaker 2>is on display. Whittacombe Fair was anupperty for farmers to

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<v Speaker 2>sell stock when it was begun several hundred years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>but now it is more of a fun gathering on

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<v Speaker 2>dark murth. There are many ghost stories, the Harry Hans,

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<v Speaker 2>Black Dogs, specters, all mixed up with the legends. As

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned earlier, our History group has written a small

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<v Speaker 2>book about Whittocombe and other about Whitcomb Fair, and these

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<v Speaker 2>are obtainable through our website. There are several more of

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<v Speaker 2>you that have written to us, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>I have answered most of your queries in this letter.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your interest in the Whittocomb and we

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<v Speaker 2>would like to send you all seasons greetings in all

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<v Speaker 2>the best for twenty eleven. Yours, sincerely, AE Beard, Honorary Secretary,

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<v Speaker 2>Whittocomb History Group. So he was defending his town. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a ghost town.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there was just a funeral, which I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thought from that story you said it was a funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like them talking to that woman, she probably

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<v Speaker 1>just had a thick British accent and they.

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<v Speaker 2>Just probably.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the accents get a little weird in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>It's speaking in talk and the eyes probably the old people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Cateractionlind.

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<v Speaker 2>What this told me is that, Yeah, sometimes we can

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<v Speaker 2>hear you know, ghost story, an abandoned town or a

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<v Speaker 2>ghost town. In reality, it might just you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>might get there on the wrong day, like when you

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<v Speaker 2>get to Seattle most of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone's just not talking or acknowledging you.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're not dead. You're not dead. That's just the

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<v Speaker 3>way it is there.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't always believe what you hear. Sometimes people just

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<v Speaker 2>get there on the wrong day.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we're going to a real abandoned ghost town, abandoned

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<v Speaker 1>for a very good reason, and it has a very

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<v Speaker 1>dark history and will stay abandoned. I think they'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>start to clean up in two thousand and sixty five.

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<v Speaker 2>We might be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>We might be alive when they start to clean up.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll update, we'll update if we're still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Then picture this doors banging open and shut in the wind.

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<v Speaker 1>Hastily abandoned amusement park rides creak noisily. Snowy boulevards are

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<v Speaker 1>dotted with wolf boar and fox tracks outside decaying apartment

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<v Speaker 1>high rises. Nature has begun to creep through the gaps

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<v Speaker 1>in the concrete, but at night, that's when the animals

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<v Speaker 1>come and any sound echoes all over the city. These

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<v Speaker 1>are the ruins caused by the Chernobyl nuclear disaster that

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<v Speaker 1>left the city of Pipya and the surrounding farms and

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<v Speaker 1>pine forests a ghost town.

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<v Speaker 3>Scarier still is.

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<v Speaker 1>That the streets are stalked by an invisible killer radiation

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<v Speaker 1>sickness and cancer that will kill a person slowly and

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<v Speaker 3>Know when it'll strike. So here's what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen eighty six, the Chernobyl nuclear plant went into meltdown,

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<v Speaker 1>located in the Soviet Union at the time, which is

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<v Speaker 1>modern day Ukraine. So during this meltdown at least twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight people were killed in the original disaster, but thousands

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<v Speaker 1>more have died from cancer as a result from the

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<v Speaker 1>radiation that's spread after the explosion and the fire that

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<v Speaker 1>leaked radiation into the air.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA? Yeah, The abandoned area is now called the exclusion zone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's frozen in time and in panic.

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<v Speaker 2>I never understood radiation, honestly, like I remember learning about

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<v Speaker 2>it in school, but like never really got it, got

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<v Speaker 2>it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean it's kind of hard to grasp because

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<v Speaker 1>it's invisible, right, but like it's an invisible thing melting

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<v Speaker 1>your skin off depending on or it's the other kind

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<v Speaker 1>where you just get a weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Cancer emissions of like little waves that are like they

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<v Speaker 2>can get waves.

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<v Speaker 1>And they can can daminate everything. Like the animals are

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting they don't allow people back in. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first ten years after the accident, the animals were all

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<v Speaker 1>being deformed and weird and like not living a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff was happening. But now all the animals that are

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<v Speaker 1>still there, like rats, cats, dogs, cows.

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<v Speaker 3>There's wolves.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lynx that's come back, like nature's actually healing itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're all radioactive. So there's radioactive wolves.

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<v Speaker 1>So now animals are more normal looking, but they're still contaminated,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's still a bunch of cows that have contaminated

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<v Speaker 1>still a threat of contamination. If you just do the

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong object, it could kill you like, there's still

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<v Speaker 1>that going on in this town. As with all eerie

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<v Speaker 1>Yah is rife with ghost stories and strange folklore. And

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<v Speaker 1>into reactor number four. Also, the reactors weren't fully shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>They sarcophagus the one that had the meltdown, but they

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<v Speaker 1>So FYI, that's pretty crazy. But anyway, so this guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Explosion had occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't go in due to radiation, but he took

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<v Speaker 3>Entered the control room, he was the first to open.

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<v Speaker 1>That door in three years, and that the only way

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<v Speaker 1>doors he had come through, and you know, the reactor

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<v Speaker 1>door requires a password to handprint. Yet someone or something

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<v Speaker 2>Yelling, uh uh, that's a ghost.

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<v Speaker 1>So later that evening they were eating dinner. The scientists

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<v Speaker 1>in the room of the installation. There was no way

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could be inside. They figured it was a power

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<v Speaker 1>surge or something. And one of the colleagues said that

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh, it must be a power surge.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second they said that, the light turned off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrifying. Yeah, but even more than that. In the

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<v Speaker 1>days leading up to the Chernobyl disaster, several workers in

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<v Speaker 2>These are the coolest names, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, right, They really did it. They really did it

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<v Speaker 1>with the naming. Those unlucky enough to see the creature

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<v Speaker 1>were said to be plagued with terrifying dreams and threatening

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls, which I'm like, how did this thing called them? Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>It's being radiation.

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<v Speaker 1>The terrifying creature rose above the horizon of Chernobyl and Pipya,

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<v Speaker 1>a hideous humanoid with giant wings, a black, headless body,

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<v Speaker 1>those who gazed upon it. Sound familiar, Yes, people have

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<v Speaker 1>come to believe that the Blackbird of Chernobyl is actually

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<v Speaker 1>a form of a creature we all know and love,

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<v Speaker 1>the moths Man. But also the presence of the moth

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<v Speaker 1>Man only means one thing disaster. Disaster, Although these days

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<v Speaker 1>the Blackbird of Chernobyl is something more of an Internet legend,

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<v Speaker 1>similar to under Man. And also some people believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the authorities and Pipya actually invented the story to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>people from entering the radioactive areas, as looters are still

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<v Speaker 1>a security problem, which is horrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>They're still trying to get in there, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, weirdly enough, before the Ukrainian War they open

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<v Speaker 1>it up as a tourist location, so you can go,

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<v Speaker 1>you go visit and you know, let us know how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. If you're already and you know you're late

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<v Speaker 1>in your lifetime, you'll probably be dead before cancer gets you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're going to go explore it, I can swim

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<v Speaker 2>with sharks. Go cat, Yeah, nalligator, let's go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I saw this thing Life After People. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you ever watch that documentary?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'd really like it because it just shows

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<v Speaker 1>you environments and how they're going to like decay after people.

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<v Speaker 1>But they use Chernobyl, like there's this great footage of

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<v Speaker 1>Chernobyl because nature is really reclaiming it. And so it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a study of how nature can heal itself after

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<v Speaker 1>a huge disaster. I don't think I need to see that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I loved watching it on the TV. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to go there. But once again, all this was

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<v Speaker 1>before the war. We'll see what happens after the war.

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<v Speaker 1>Fan corner, Fan fan corner.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from night Guard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah high night Guard.

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<v Speaker 2>Nightguard says, from what I can remember, there is a

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<v Speaker 2>railroad where I live that said that what looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a lantern goes down the track without anyone holding on

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Can you imagine that.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be spooky to see and also a great story

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<v Speaker 1>for tell me a ghost story. So please call in

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<v Speaker 1>or leave a voice message somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>And so did to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, says my Bible teacher. Said he saw not one

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<v Speaker 2>but two lights at once, which no one has seen

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<v Speaker 2>before and from what he could gather and even get

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<v Speaker 2>a picture of it in the acron of a picture

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<v Speaker 2>with his youth group. Thanks a lot, Nightguard, and for

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<v Speaker 2>also your other comments in the other episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you. You're a frequent commenter and we love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your comments. Send in your comments, questions, suggestions, ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>anything you got for us so we can talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it in the next Campfire Story episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we gotta put out that fire that never goes out.

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