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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, guess what day it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what day it is? Huh anybody?

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<v Speaker 2>It's hump Day?

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<v Speaker 3>What day?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's hump Day. Dick Gabriel with you on a Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>one day closer to Kentucky football. This Saturday night, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Wildcats and Vanderbilt seven forty five kick. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>it for you right here on six point thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 2>at five thirty with Christy, Jeremy and Logan and Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff and I will have the call of the Cats

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<v Speaker 2>and the Commodorees. The two SEC teams coming off the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest upsets in well for Vandy in program history, in

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky one of the biggest in program history. So both

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<v Speaker 2>teams are on a roll and it should be interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>both teams winning in similar fashions these past Saturdays, both

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<v Speaker 2>teams controlling the football for forty minutes, making plays on defense,

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<v Speaker 2>minimizing mistakes on offense, and doing things that quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>surprise their own fan bases, much less the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>college football. So we'll have that one for you right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't we stay with Kentucky football. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of football chatter coming up, did a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>basketball yesterday because of UK Media Day, lots of football

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<v Speaker 2>coming up. Chris Doring of the SEC Network joins us

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<v Speaker 2>next and he'll finish up this first hour. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to catch up on with Chris talking about

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<v Speaker 2>both Vandy and Kentucky, but talking to the Wildcats this week,

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark Stoops and his players. Barrion Brown was front

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<v Speaker 2>and center yesterday and talked about whether or not the

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<v Speaker 2>team was kind of hanging on to the good vibes

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<v Speaker 2>from the old miss win or moving forward a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of both.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I say hold on to it to a certain sting, like,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get the big hit about it, because any given

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<v Speaker 3>week we can be that team to fall if we're

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<v Speaker 3>not prepared or we're not focused.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I pretty should have had that.

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<v Speaker 3>But like I'll be telling the boys, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>stay likeed in everything we wanted right in front of us.

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<v Speaker 3>We just got to keep grinding for.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and then extra week to train their own film

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<v Speaker 2>out here. So it was good. I liked the bowiek

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<v Speaker 2>that's Barran Brown courtesy if Jeff Drummond and Cat illustrated

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<v Speaker 2>and he was right back at practice catching deep throws

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<v Speaker 2>from Rock Vandergriff, he said, so maybe we'll see more

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<v Speaker 2>of the same with Vanderbilt coming in. That win by

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<v Speaker 2>the Commodorees, of course, prompted the field storming at Vandy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it also costs the school one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happens when you storm. Now in the Southeastern Conference,

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to keep people safe. It can get really dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when goalposts come down. But they revised the policy

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<v Speaker 2>at the spring meeting in twenty twenty three. Fines here

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<v Speaker 2>paid to the opposing institution. So Vandy pays Alabama one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand for the upset victory. Remember when he used

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<v Speaker 2>to be I think the first offense was fifty grand,

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<v Speaker 2>then it got worse. This was Arkansas second offense that

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<v Speaker 2>razorback fans rushed the field after the win over Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was actually going back to when they rushed

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<v Speaker 2>the court when men's basketball beat Duke last November. So

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<v Speaker 2>it counts them matter of the sport. So now second

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<v Speaker 2>offense is costing Arkansas two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and yep, third offense half a million. So yeah, they're great,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're costly. Not that anybody on that field really

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<v Speaker 2>really cares getting back to basketball for just a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I was not able to go to Women's Basketball Day.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had some of the UK women that we had

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<v Speaker 2>the coach, Kenny Brooks and one or two players on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. But because I had to rush back for

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<v Speaker 2>Men's Basketball Day to put this show together, I was

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<v Speaker 2>not able to go to Women's Basketball Day. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>a comment from Kenny Brooks at the podium on his

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<v Speaker 2>first media day as the UK head coach, coming over

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<v Speaker 2>from Virginia Tech, and man, he is ready to get going.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest thing is just a welcoming from Big Blue Nation,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and how everyone's been so interested in what

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<v Speaker 4>we're doing. Welcoming to Lexington and just a big Blue

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<v Speaker 4>nation has been awesome, And you know, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 4>proud of what we've done in six months put together

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<v Speaker 4>a roster. This day and age freedom of movement, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you got to start all over. And we went out

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<v Speaker 4>and we went out and we went in the portal,

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<v Speaker 4>and we didn't want to always just get the best players.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to get the right players, players that can

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<v Speaker 4>come in and represent this university, our program, help us

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<v Speaker 4>start something special, and I thought, you know, we did

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<v Speaker 4>a really good job of assembling a really good roster.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a group of great kids who just work.

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<v Speaker 4>They work, work, work. I don't know how good they are.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how good they're going to be. I

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<v Speaker 4>do know that right now as we speak, I am undefeated.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Kentucky women's coach Kenny Brooks. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>his team will contend or an SEC title this but

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<v Speaker 2>I do know this. They are big, They have got size,

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<v Speaker 2>and they may be the biggest team in UK women's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball history. And you cannot win without size, so they're

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the game in that department. He's also a

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<v Speaker 2>very good coach, and he has brought some kids over

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<v Speaker 2>from Virginia Tech and kids who are transferred in who

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<v Speaker 2>have had success in other places. So it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>fun watching. But unlike a season ever in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of UK basketball, if not college basketball, both the men's

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<v Speaker 2>and women's teams rebuilding just about from the ground up,

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<v Speaker 2>with a fan base that expects a heck of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot up. Dex Chris Doring of the SEC Network. Little later,

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Woods and Weston Buer chief Gary Moore on six

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<v Speaker 2>thirty WLAP joining us on our celebrity hotline now is

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<v Speaker 2>a longtime friend of the show. We love talking football

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<v Speaker 2>with Chris Doring of the SEC Network and full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 2>Christ and Ivert trying to get together last week couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get schedules to match up. Now, Chris, I'm happy that

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<v Speaker 2>that occurred because we can talk about this Vandy Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>game and watching the coverage out of Tom Hart and

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<v Speaker 2>his whole crew did a great job, and you guys

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<v Speaker 2>chopped it up so well in the studio. What was

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<v Speaker 2>that like covering that story?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first and foremost, let me tell you the real

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<v Speaker 5>MVP of the whole crew was a list of Lang

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<v Speaker 5>down there battling her crowd as they run the field.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, she's just a little tiny thing, and she

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<v Speaker 5>she was able to track down Diego Pavia better than

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<v Speaker 5>probably any Alabama defended it all day long, so I

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<v Speaker 5>give her credit for that. But yeah, man, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>We don't get Alabama on our network all that often,

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<v Speaker 5>but to have that game on there, you could feel

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<v Speaker 5>that the game was progressing. People changing their channel to

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<v Speaker 5>tune in, like, yeah, beyond disbelief and what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's my only like.

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<v Speaker 5>That was perfect for me because not only did we

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<v Speaker 5>have the Alabama upset on so it was going right

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<v Speaker 5>into the Florida game, and then it ran so long

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't even get to come on camera. We had

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<v Speaker 5>about two minutes we were voicing over the crowd and

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<v Speaker 5>storm in the field and didn't even get any FaceTime. Man,

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally regret those times. Everything, brother, I get that, that's

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<v Speaker 2>right now. My heart went out to Alyssa because and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to you, she's been on the show with us

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<v Speaker 2>as a fellow sideline reporter. I've covered a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>games like that. Nothing quite as frantic, though. Man. She

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<v Speaker 2>she was running and caught the coach and the players

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<v Speaker 2>and uh and and had great questions for him. So

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<v Speaker 2>much respect to her.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she she kind of went viral with that whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And and I did a show with her on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 5>morning on our normal show, and she, uh, she was

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<v Speaker 5>just talking about you know what that was like and

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<v Speaker 5>realizing the importance of making sure she got the papa.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I have a lot of respect for

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<v Speaker 5>all of y'all that I've done it before. As well,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's uh one, it's just making sure you're in

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<v Speaker 5>the right place at the right time. It's hard enough,

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<v Speaker 5>but then making sure you're formulating questions that make sense

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<v Speaker 5>and trying to keep your composure about just tough. She

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<v Speaker 5>does a great job, as you know. I'm so fortunate

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<v Speaker 5>to work with the network and so many great people

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<v Speaker 5>that I have such respect for professionally and friendship wise.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's awesome. And just the additional coverage now with

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<v Speaker 5>ESPN ABC that she network, having that whole contract, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of fun to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>Man Diego held it together in that interview. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want to double back to something you said about you

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<v Speaker 2>could kind of feel the nation was tuning in. I

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<v Speaker 2>was one of them. I was spending the dial, saw

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<v Speaker 2>the seven nothing score, I thought that deserves it. Look

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<v Speaker 2>and just as I tuned in, comes to pick six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but honestly, you know, having done it for so long,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hate to say it is covering Kentucky for

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<v Speaker 2>so long, which has flirted with upsets, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while, Pullster, We'll talk about old

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<v Speaker 2>miss in a minute, they somehow slip away. How did

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<v Speaker 2>Vandy keep that from happening.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I'm like you. And when we had

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<v Speaker 5>Coach Leon after the game on our Saturday night show,

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<v Speaker 5>and you probably may have caught it on Saturday or

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<v Speaker 5>maybe Sunday morning, but I was honest with him. I say, hey, Coach,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm watching this game, thinking, wow, this is cool, but

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<v Speaker 5>how is Vanderbilt going to find a way to lose

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<v Speaker 5>or how is Alabama going to come back and win?

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<v Speaker 5>Like it just felt like it was too good to

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<v Speaker 5>be true almost, And you know, as the game progressed,

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<v Speaker 5>every time Alabama got closed, Vanderbilt made a play. I've

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<v Speaker 5>been from the get go making sure to emphasize to

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<v Speaker 5>everybody those especially they didn't watch it. This was not

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<v Speaker 5>a flukey win. This was not an accident. This was

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<v Speaker 5>not Alabama losing the game. This was Vanderbilt taking it

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<v Speaker 5>to Alabama, not being intimidated at all, having a great

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<v Speaker 5>game plan, having a star quarterback that understands the offense

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<v Speaker 5>after playing it in a couple of years, Guys making plays.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the third down conversions alone, twelve of eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>on the afternoon, that's how you possessed the foot all

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<v Speaker 5>for over forty two minutes. That's how you keep Jaln

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<v Speaker 5>Milroe on the sideline. And to their credit, I mean

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<v Speaker 5>they were able to I think I want to say

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<v Speaker 5>the average yards to gain on third down was like

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<v Speaker 5>over six yards. So these weren't easy conversions. They were

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<v Speaker 5>guys making plays in the clutch, and nobody more cluts

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<v Speaker 5>than Diego was what. You know, he's able to do

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<v Speaker 5>not only throwing the football but running it and just

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<v Speaker 5>it's a lot of fun to watch. Man as a

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<v Speaker 5>fan of competitors, Man, that's not any in this league

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<v Speaker 5>this year that compete.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that, dude does.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great story a guy couldn't get I heard you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it was Peter Burns talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he couldn't get a scholarship offer from his

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<v Speaker 2>hometown team, University of New Mexico. Two years of JUCO

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<v Speaker 2>ends up in New Mexico State and had success there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I loved the story about Clark Lee who watched

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<v Speaker 2>New Mexico State dismantled Auburn, which had just beaten Vandy,

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<v Speaker 2>and goes out and hires Jerry Kill, hires Tim Beck,

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<v Speaker 2>incredible story, and that guy that's the story right now,

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<v Speaker 5>It really is. And I think the thing that stands

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I think specifically about the Vandy story there,

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<v Speaker 5>Clark Lee not only goes out and gets half the

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<v Speaker 5>he also goes out and reinserts himself as the defensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 5>a guy that gave up those play calling duties a

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<v Speaker 5>few years back to try to manage the team as

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<v Speaker 5>they needed his play calling ability, and the defense has

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<v Speaker 5>been very good as well this year. So I give

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<v Speaker 5>him credit. I give Sam Pittman credit. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a controversial hire to go out to hire Bobby Petrino.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a it's you know, going out and get Taylor

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<v Speaker 5>listen into Travis Williams, a defensive coordinator who saw something

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit a couple weeks earlier and integrating that

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<v Speaker 5>into the game plan, and coach Pittman being willing to

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<v Speaker 5>Like I just I think a lot of coaches that

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<v Speaker 5>are willing to do things that are maybe outside of

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<v Speaker 2>Well. And clark Lee hires Jerry Kill who was a

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, well respected coaches in the business. And

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<v Speaker 2>now Harry is in Nashville kind kind of mentoring clark Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>if you heard alread any of the transcript or any

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<v Speaker 2>but Mark Troops talked at length about clark Lee has

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<v Speaker 2>enormous respect for him, has known him for quite a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said I could see it coming what was

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<v Speaker 2>but he said I could see it coming with clark Lee,

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's kind of what he was talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we saw it. I guess two years ago that

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<v Speaker 5>remember that November you know, well, I know, well, they

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<v Speaker 5>beat Kentucky and Florida in the month of November and

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<v Speaker 5>you're thinking, I, they got a little something figured out here.

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<v Speaker 5>They're gonna build on that in twenty twenty three, and

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<v Speaker 5>they actually took a step back. I don't think people

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<v Speaker 5>thought a lot of what this team was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be this year. I didn't know a ton about Pavia.

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<v Speaker 5>I saw the New Mexico State offense go to Jordan

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<v Speaker 5>Hare last year in Tara Auburn up. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>that Virginia Tech game in the opening week of the season.

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<v Speaker 5>You immediately see that this is a guy that has

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<v Speaker 5>a little something about him, that attitude, the competitor in him.

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<v Speaker 5>It permeates throughout the team, and honestly, like I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's good that this guy comes from New Mexico. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't know the pre determined thoughts on what Vanderbilt

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<v Speaker 5>can and can't do, what they've done historically. Like me,

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<v Speaker 5>he comes in with a fresh palette, says, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>why wouldn't we go out here and within a day,

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<v Speaker 5>why can't we beat Alabama. And to think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Vandy had had sixty prior beatings with top five teams

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<v Speaker 5>and never won a single one of them. And to

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<v Speaker 5>have finally won their first top five matchup against the

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<v Speaker 5>number one team in the country and it's Alabama. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think you could have scripted it any better.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing I noticed when I turned the channel immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>Vandy was playing physical football. I mean taking it to Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've seen Vandy defenses do that, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the ball. How much of that

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<v Speaker 2>did you notice?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I went back and watched the tape on Sunday, Dick,

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<v Speaker 5>I watched. I watched early in that first quarter, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Vandy's running the football and the piles getting pushed seventy

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<v Speaker 5>eight nine yards. I watched the line up around, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>inside the ten yard line and run power and blow

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<v Speaker 5>the linebacker out of a hole. I watch a kickout

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<v Speaker 5>block that knocks an Alabama player on his back. I

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<v Speaker 5>watched them line up in a heavy formation down at

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<v Speaker 5>the goal line and ended up scoring like they weren't

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<v Speaker 5>intimidated at all. They even though you saw Quincy Skinner

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<v Speaker 5>talking trash right in the face of Alabama defensive backs,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I think there's an intimidation factor that sometimes goes

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<v Speaker 5>along with Alabama. Maybe that's not there as much anymore

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<v Speaker 5>without Nick Staven, but still it holds some weight. And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you look at the recruiting rankings, there's not

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<v Speaker 5>a chasm that is as big as what you're looking

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<v Speaker 5>at between Alabama and Vanderbilt. And these guys were not intimidated.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't read any of that. They went out there

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<v Speaker 5>and did their jobs and I thought, you know, the execution.

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<v Speaker 5>You look at what they were able to do. Two takeaways,

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<v Speaker 5>didn't turn the ball over once, did I'm sorry, two

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<v Speaker 5>penalties on the whole afternoon, didn't turn the ball over once,

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<v Speaker 5>didn't allow a sack. That's smart football. That's what you

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<v Speaker 5>should expect at Vanderbilt. And they went out there, had

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<v Speaker 5>a great game plan, executing it and didn't make mistakes

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<v Speaker 5>as we saw you know Alabama make, particularly with the

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<v Speaker 2>Athleticism and smarts tough to be. Chris Doring is my

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<v Speaker 2>guest from the SEC Network. We'll come back and talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Kentucky and Vanderbilt in just a minute here on

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Move Insider six point thirty WLAP Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking with Chris Doring of the SEC Network. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>covers every game in the conference and talks about it

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<v Speaker 2>on the SEC Final Show and throughout the week on

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC Network. You can hear it as well on

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<v Speaker 2>Channel three seventy four on Sirius XM Radio. As I

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<v Speaker 2>do and Diego Flavia coming to town, what does Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>have to do? Obviously did a good job against Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>Dart who who can extend to play. But Flaby's got

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<v Speaker 2>a different kind of a different skill set, doesn't he.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Diego Pobby is a guy that can can hurts

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<v Speaker 5>you in a lot of different ways. And let's start

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<v Speaker 5>with what the offense is. I mean, the offense is

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<v Speaker 5>a combination of a lot of different things. You'll see

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<v Speaker 5>a ton of misdirection, So Coach Stukes and Brian Wide

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<v Speaker 5>will talk a lot this week about I discipline. They

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<v Speaker 5>also run a lot of different option games, so you

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<v Speaker 5>got to be assignment sound uh. They also like to

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<v Speaker 5>move Pavia outside of the pocket. He can he can

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<v Speaker 5>hurt you with his legs. He can hurt you by

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<v Speaker 5>extending plays when things break down, but he really throws

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<v Speaker 5>well outside of the pocket, and so you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not a guy that's a good runner and can't throw.

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<v Speaker 5>He could throw it really well, made some nice throws

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<v Speaker 5>on some deep balls, including the fourth and one for

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<v Speaker 5>the touchdowns. So he's he's the entire packet. So I

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<v Speaker 5>think the thing that that Kentucky has to do is

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<v Speaker 5>be the more physical team, which they were against Ole

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<v Speaker 5>Miss a couple of weeks ago, which they went toe

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<v Speaker 5>to toe with Georgia before that. Uh, but I think

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<v Speaker 5>they really have to be assignment sound in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>what they have to do and and and defending the

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<v Speaker 5>option and really be tight on the eigeh discipline and

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<v Speaker 5>not let the misdirection catch him out of place.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the Kentucky deep ball in real time

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<v Speaker 2>the Barryon Brown cat.

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<v Speaker 3>I did.

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<v Speaker 5>I was watching it live. Uh, we were in the studio,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh, I just I'm marveled. Especially like Brock Vandergrit,

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<v Speaker 5>we hadn't seen we hadn't seen a ball like that

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<v Speaker 5>in his Obviously I didn't see a ton of it

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<v Speaker 5>at Georgia, but since he's been the starter at Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 5>I hadn't seen him throw a ball with that precision.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, great job, by Barrian Brown, because as a receiver,

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<v Speaker 5>my job is to keep five yards from the sideline

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<v Speaker 5>where the quarterback can drop it over my outside shoulder.

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<v Speaker 5>And even if I'm covered where the guy hit the hip,

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<v Speaker 5>I got my body in good position to catch the

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<v Speaker 5>ball with my arms with the defensive back shield. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's exactly what Barrion Brown did, and that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 5>Rock Vandergriff did and dropping it over his shoulder. And

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<v Speaker 5>let's not forget I mean, Baron Brown's had some inconsistencies

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<v Speaker 5>catching the ball, so you got to You got a

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<v Speaker 5>perfect throw and a great catch exactly when you needed it.

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<v Speaker 5>And we talked about Bandy making plays when you needed it.

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky made plays. And you heard old miss Kaslayane Kiffin

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<v Speaker 5>lament the fact that they could have closed it out

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<v Speaker 5>on offense, on defense and special teams. And while I

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<v Speaker 5>agree with that, I also commend Kentucky for making them

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<v Speaker 5>play on offensive, defense and special teams to help, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>keep them from winning that football game. So I've been

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<v Speaker 5>really impressed with the improvement that Kentucky's made since that

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<v Speaker 5>awful outing against South Carolina. I thought it was going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a long year, but knowing coach Stops and

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<v Speaker 5>the way that that he's able to rally a team

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<v Speaker 5>and get them to buy in. It's so surprised that

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<v Speaker 5>they're playing a lot better right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seems like Chris. Every year they lose, Stoop's

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<v Speaker 2>team will lose a game it shouldn't lose. But to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, he's able to bring him back and talking

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<v Speaker 2>to those players about just going back to work. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember talking to one of the guys on the

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<v Speaker 2>post game about the fact that he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't let my guys after the Georgia loss. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't let my guys see that I was down. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the vet said that, you know, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is shows the ownership. They've got Barrion Brown as

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<v Speaker 2>a veteran and made a knucklehead move when he gets

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<v Speaker 2>called for a personal foul coming off the sideline, which

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<v Speaker 2>would it could have been a game ending kind of penalty,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but they were able to rise above that

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<v Speaker 2>and to your point, made the biggest catch of his

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<v Speaker 2>of his career so far. And then Dane Key as

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<v Speaker 2>a receiver, man, you got to love what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I love the rapport that he and Brock vandergriff have created,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, started dating back to what I guess that

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<v Speaker 5>with the hurdle down there around the end zone. Like

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<v Speaker 5>I've liked these receivers since they were freshmen, as I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure all Kentucky fans have. I thought they regressed last year,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe a little bit of sophomore slump, maybe reading the

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<v Speaker 5>headlines too much, maybe not you know, being comfortable in

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<v Speaker 5>the Liam Cohen offense, whatever it was. But I think

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<v Speaker 5>there's clearly a focus that wasn't there last year, clearly

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<v Speaker 5>something to prove and and I think that they can,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, start building on some of what you've seen

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<v Speaker 5>in this point of the season and hopefully, you know

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<v Speaker 5>that protection will be a little bit better than it

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<v Speaker 5>was early in the year. It's improved over the last

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<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks, but I think they got something there.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know this a program that's that's trying to

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<v Speaker 5>think we're good, but until we actually go out there

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<v Speaker 5>and do it in the clutch, we don't necessarily know

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<v Speaker 5>that for sure. So I think that game against Old

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<v Speaker 5>miss going on the road in that environment. Winning the

421
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<v Speaker 5>way that they did can be a real shot in

422
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<v Speaker 5>the arm for the rest of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's no question about it. And I've covered a

424
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<v Speaker 2>couple of big wins on the road. That was the biggest,

425
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<v Speaker 2>of course, but to be in a locker room, and

426
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<v Speaker 2>that's where they had us set up for post game.

427
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<v Speaker 2>On the road, we are generally in the locker room

428
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<v Speaker 2>with music so loud. You know, your own chest is stumping.

429
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<v Speaker 2>You've been a part of that, I know in the past.

430
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<v Speaker 2>But just the unmitigated joy these guys were able to share,

431
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<v Speaker 2>you know, all that hard work paying off and that'll

432
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<v Speaker 2>pay dividends down the road as long as they get

433
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<v Speaker 2>right back to work, right.

434
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's the thing I missed the most is the

435
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<v Speaker 5>camaraderie in the locker room, you know, being there with

436
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<v Speaker 5>your teammates. It's actually something I love about doing the

437
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<v Speaker 5>TV stuff that I do because there's a lot of

438
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<v Speaker 5>work that goes into it throughout the week. You know,

439
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<v Speaker 5>I'm watching tape, I'm reading, We're talking to coaches. You know,

440
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<v Speaker 5>we get together on Thursday night and kind of plan

441
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<v Speaker 5>out what we want to do on Friday's show, and

442
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<v Speaker 5>Saturday we're in the studio like watching all day long,

443
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<v Speaker 5>taking notes, doing some of the halftime in postgame shows,

444
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<v Speaker 5>and then we do that one hour show at night

445
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<v Speaker 5>right and it's like, Hey, all of this work we did,

446
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<v Speaker 5>you got the adrenaline rush from being on television and

447
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<v Speaker 5>you get to celebrate with your boys afterwards. You don't

448
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<v Speaker 5>get that in life much. There's not a whole lot

449
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<v Speaker 5>of facsimile for that that exists outside of sports. And

450
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<v Speaker 5>you know, you can talk about the money, you can

451
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<v Speaker 5>talk about the fame, you can talk about everything else,

452
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<v Speaker 5>but there's nothing quite like the camaraderie in the locker

453
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<v Speaker 5>room particular that exists between a football team. And it's

454
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<v Speaker 5>a lot of fun to win, particularly when you put

455
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<v Speaker 5>all that hard work in. It's even more fun to

456
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<v Speaker 5>win when when you have to go through the adversity

457
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.400
<v Speaker 5>that they did early in the season against South Carolina,

458
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<v Speaker 5>going on the road, Like, I love playing in the swamp,

459
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<v Speaker 5>but there wasn't nothing better than going on the road

460
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<v Speaker 5>and making the opponents fans sad and being able to

461
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<v Speaker 5>quiet the place down. So yeah, I think that this

462
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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky team clearly believes in what they're doing. There's a

463
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<v Speaker 5>lot of veteran players there. These coaches have been with

464
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<v Speaker 5>these guys for a long time. It's gonna be fun

465
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<v Speaker 5>to watch. Hopefully as this team continues to ascend, how

466
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<v Speaker 5>we talk about them from where they came against South

467
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<v Speaker 5>Carolina to where they.

468
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<v Speaker 2>End up going more with Chris during of the SEC

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<v Speaker 2>Network when we come back here on a Big bon

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<v Speaker 2>Sider six thirty w l a p. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Moon Sider. Dick Gabriel, what do you on

472
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<v Speaker 2>a Wednesday edition of our program? Chris Dring my guest,

473
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<v Speaker 2>he of course is an analyst or the SEC Network.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Former Florida Gator, played under Steve Spurrier National Championship Team

475
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<v Speaker 2>NFL veteran and you see him each week and hear

476
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<v Speaker 2>him on the radio as well. On the SEC Network.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked a little bit about you mentioned Brad White,

478
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<v Speaker 2>and man, you know what a well respected decoordinator and

479
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<v Speaker 2>the job he's done at Kentucky Bush Hamden in his

480
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<v Speaker 2>first year as the OC. And there have been some

481
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<v Speaker 2>hiccups on offense, I know, but the way we talked

482
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<v Speaker 2>about it earlier, the way Kentucky ground out offensive drives

483
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<v Speaker 2>against Ole miss I got to tell you that took

484
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<v Speaker 2>me by surprise because Ole Miss comes back this past

485
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<v Speaker 2>week with an outstanding defensive performance. But the fact that

486
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky controlled the ball almost to the minute exactly as

487
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<v Speaker 2>much as Vandy did against Alabama, I thought that was huge.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's definitely huge. And I think that people have

489
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<v Speaker 5>minimized the importance of the time of possession yeatistick because

490
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<v Speaker 5>of all the up tempo offenses and trying to get

491
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<v Speaker 5>plays off explosiveness of you know, three or four play drives.

492
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<v Speaker 5>That's all great, but when you look in the box

493
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<v Speaker 5>score and you see Alabama running forty six plays, you

494
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<v Speaker 5>know they had That's all they had on the entire afternoon,

495
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<v Speaker 5>was forty six plays. It minimizes the impact that Jalen

496
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<v Speaker 5>Milroe and guys like Ryan Williams can have. But it

497
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<v Speaker 5>also is frustrating too. I can tell you, as an

498
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<v Speaker 5>offensive player, like I want to get back out there,

499
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<v Speaker 5>I want to get the ball, I want to move

500
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<v Speaker 5>the football, I want to catch ball. It's frustrating when

501
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<v Speaker 5>you're not able to make an impact. And so that

502
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<v Speaker 5>has had that effect as well. And so I we've

503
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<v Speaker 5>always looked at Kentucky as a team that's able to

504
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<v Speaker 5>run the football, it's able to impose their will on

505
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<v Speaker 5>the opposition, it's able to be more physical. One of

506
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<v Speaker 5>the great coaching decisions I think the coach Soups made

507
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:49.119
<v Speaker 5>was realizing that they had to expand on what they

508
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<v Speaker 5>were doing throwing the football football down vertically. That's when

509
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<v Speaker 5>they moved on from Eddie Grant and got Liam Cohen

510
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<v Speaker 5>the first time. And and the offense has evolved, but

511
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<v Speaker 5>at the core, it's still being fit the goal. It's

512
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<v Speaker 5>still running the football, it's still minimizing those mistakes and

513
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<v Speaker 5>playing great defense. And I think you know, even to

514
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<v Speaker 5>what you're saying, possessing the football like Ali rush for

515
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<v Speaker 5>I think what eighty something yards in that game. Like

516
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<v Speaker 5>if you have told me that Kentucky scored twenty points

517
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<v Speaker 5>in rush for one hundred yards or under one hundred yards,

518
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<v Speaker 5>I'd just said they lost by three touchdowns. But this

519
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<v Speaker 5>was a gutsy, blue collar effort along the lines of

520
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<v Speaker 5>what we expect from from coach Stukes with his young

521
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<v Speaker 5>stant Ohio background. And I just it's a lot of

522
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<v Speaker 5>fun to watch teams that kind of figure things out

523
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<v Speaker 5>after some trial and adversity.

524
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<v Speaker 2>I heard you bring up that stat on the show,

525
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<v Speaker 2>and you're absolutely right. But they had so much success

526
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<v Speaker 2>throwing the football as they moved the pocket, as they

527
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<v Speaker 2>went play action. Still struggling Chris with passing on downs

528
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>where everybody knows they're going to throw. Georgia killed them

529
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<v Speaker 2>on those downs and Ole Miss had something sass. But

530
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky is still able to move the chains or you know,

531
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<v Speaker 2>stay out a third and long against the ale mission.

532
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>I gotta think they got to do that against Vandy again.

533
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<v Speaker 5>Man, I think the thing that you have to do

534
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 5>offensively is you got to be unpredictable. You gotta take

535
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 5>some shots on first and second down. You gotta stay

536
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 5>in front of the chains. Like Kentucky's not a team

537
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 5>that's gonna live converting you know, third and eight all

538
00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 5>day long. I don't think there are very few teams

539
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 5>that that that can do that. But I do think

540
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<v Speaker 5>what you're you're seeing is a team that understands kind

541
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 5>of who they are. You know, they they they hit

542
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 5>some deep shots with Barrion Brown and Dan Key. You

543
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 5>get some some some some big runs from Sumo Kongba.

544
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<v Speaker 5>Like I like the pieces here and again, I think

545
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<v Speaker 5>maybe the most important thing is figuring out, you know,

546
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<v Speaker 5>the quarterback spot. There would talk I know that in

547
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<v Speaker 5>the UH, in the in the offseason, we thought, you know,

548
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 5>maybe there'd be some some two quarterback play. We've been

549
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 5>it at times. But I do think that that right now,

550
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 5>Rock Vander Griffin is figuring things out, and he's getting

551
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<v Speaker 5>confidence in himself and his teammates. And I just I'm

552
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<v Speaker 5>not a huge fan of riding with the two quarterback system.

553
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 5>You watch what Mike Elko did with putting Connor Wegman

554
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<v Speaker 5>in there after Marcel Reid had had won the last

555
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<v Speaker 5>three ball games. Like I'm frustrated with what Florida continues

556
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 5>to do. Graham Mertz gives them the best opportunity to

557
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 5>win and should be in there more and and and

558
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 5>the coaching staffs inten on playing more DJ, who I

559
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 5>think is going to be a great player down the road.

560
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<v Speaker 5>But right now, you know, still young, and we're talking

561
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<v Speaker 5>about Graham Mertz as a six year senior. So I

562
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<v Speaker 5>know I'm all over the place and answering your question,

563
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.599
<v Speaker 5>but I do think there are spots where you can

564
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<v Speaker 5>put another quarterback in. I didn't agree with what the

565
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<v Speaker 5>offensive staff did at South Carolina this weekend, putting Robbie

566
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<v Speaker 5>Ashford in for le Norcelos. The first plays in they

567
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 5>run zone Reid and the ball is on the round

568
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<v Speaker 5>and the game never was the same to me. Lenora

569
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<v Speaker 5>Sellers and Robbie asked for the very similar guys, like

570
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<v Speaker 5>if you have the contrast between you know, two very

571
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<v Speaker 5>different quarterbacks, that makes sense compliment each other, but the

572
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 5>same guy switching off, it doesn't make it doesn't make

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<v Speaker 5>any sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and Gavin Wimson came in a little while a

575
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<v Speaker 2>few times for Kentucky against Ale Miss, but he is

576
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<v Speaker 2>a different kind of quarterback. And of course the only

577
00:29:24.599 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>play was in on.

578
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<v Speaker 5>If Caddy wouldn't have caught that boss.

579
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<v Speaker 2>Exactly that situation. That's what I was going to get to.

580
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<v Speaker 2>The only the only play is in on and it's

581
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<v Speaker 2>almost a disaster. And Chris had happened right in front

582
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<v Speaker 2>of me. I mean, I'm ten feet away and I've

583
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 2>seen it so often, disasters and I and you know

584
00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 2>how quickly your brain works. I'm like, oh my god,

585
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 2>they've given it up at the goal line, but it

586
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>catches Kadis right on the edge.

587
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<v Speaker 5>I said the same, I literally in the studio said

588
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<v Speaker 5>to said to the guys in there, I'm like, how

589
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.759
<v Speaker 5>is Kentucky gonna find a way to mess this up?

590
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 5>We found it last time they went there two years ago.

591
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<v Speaker 5>They found a way to mess it up. Driving down there,

592
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:08.480
<v Speaker 5>Will Levice gets dripped in the red zone like it's

593
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<v Speaker 5>become We're conditioned to see that. And again it's part

594
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<v Speaker 5>of like I give this staff a lot of credit.

595
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 5>We're conditioned to watch Florida beat Kentucky every year. Then

596
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<v Speaker 5>what they do. They've turned the tides and one, what

597
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 5>three the last five? I guess it is like it

598
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 5>it's sometimes you need folks that can come in and

599
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.359
<v Speaker 5>change the narrative, and I think this team has a

600
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:30.920
<v Speaker 5>little something special about it this year.

601
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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Chris during at the SEC Network few More

602
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<v Speaker 2>Minutes with Chris, you mentioned Kentucky's running attack. How surprised

603
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<v Speaker 2>are you with train them still out with Demi Sumo

604
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Karnbay running between the tackles Chris and at times moving

605
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<v Speaker 2>the pile.

606
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I guess I shouldn't be because I remember,

607
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<v Speaker 5>I guess when Benny Snail got inserted in there the

608
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<v Speaker 5>first time, he was taking over from somebody else before,

609
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<v Speaker 5>right he got inserted as a freshman right when they remember.

610
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<v Speaker 2>Billan Williams and uh and jo Joe Camp back then.

611
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yep, yep, very different styles of runners there. But uh,

612
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<v Speaker 5>I do think that Kentucky knows how to recruit guys

613
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 5>that fit who they want to be personal personality, personality wise,

614
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 5>and so I'm not surprised by it. I'm also not

615
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 5>surprised that they're improving as the offensive line improves.

616
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<v Speaker 2>So it's.

617
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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be fun to see when they get their

618
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<v Speaker 5>their full compliment back. You probably can tell me a

619
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 5>little bit more than what I know. I don't know

620
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<v Speaker 5>how healthy they are after the bye week, but it'd

621
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<v Speaker 5>be nice to see this team at full compliment.

622
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<v Speaker 2>So have said that train him had a setback in practice,

623
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<v Speaker 2>so we may not see him this week. But I'll

624
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<v Speaker 2>tell you who has been a pleasant surprise to me

625
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<v Speaker 2>is Ja Marion Wilcox, freshman running back and man is

626
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<v Speaker 2>our guy Jeff Picoor. Our color analysts like to say,

627
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>and you've heard it before, he runs angry, and uh,

628
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<v Speaker 2>he'll his yards after carry or yards after contact. I

629
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>should say, have been really, really impressive. I wanted to

630
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>ask you another question about Dane Key, because it seemed

631
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>like Old Miss had devoted itself to grabbing and hacking

632
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>and clawing at him like a basketball team that figures, well,

633
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they can't call every foul, and they got nailed a

634
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>few times for interference or holding or whatever. But it

635
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>tells me how much stronger he is now and better

636
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:25.680
<v Speaker 2>he is at running routes. Am I seeing that right?

637
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 5>No question? Yeah, I mean I think that's one of

638
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.160
<v Speaker 5>the things you see as a freshman. You know, you

639
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 5>may be a great athlete, you may have great ball skills,

640
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.319
<v Speaker 5>but physically you're not going to be the same as

641
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 5>you are once you go through an offseason with the

642
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 5>conditioning staff that you get a couple of those under

643
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 5>your belts that you learned. That's what I said about

644
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.119
<v Speaker 5>Ryan Williams at Alabama. Like Ryan Williams is amazingly talented

645
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.440
<v Speaker 5>and contract the football well and has great body control

646
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:56.559
<v Speaker 5>in this fast and smooth but when he actually learns

647
00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:58.279
<v Speaker 5>how to run routes, when he knows how to set

648
00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.240
<v Speaker 5>people up, when he learns leverage, like, this guy's gonna

649
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.319
<v Speaker 5>be tough. I mean, he's already tough to stop, but

650
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.759
<v Speaker 5>I just I can't wait to see what he becomes

651
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.400
<v Speaker 5>and what a great you know, think about this, This

652
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 5>this freshman class of receivers that were watching across the

653
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 5>country right now, Jeremiah Smith at Alabama's or at I

654
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 5>think it's been amazing. Obviously, Ryan Williams at Alabama, Wingo

655
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 5>at Texas, Cam Coleman at AUBURNS had some times like

656
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:25.440
<v Speaker 5>these guys, I don't know how they're coming out of

657
00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:29.160
<v Speaker 5>high school so ready, both physically and I guess maybe

658
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.240
<v Speaker 5>playing in some of the seven and seven something that

659
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.960
<v Speaker 5>they do and the way that they proliferation of the

660
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:35.960
<v Speaker 5>passing game has seeped all the way down to high

661
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 5>school football. But these dudes are a lot more prepared

662
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 5>than I was when I was coming out.

663
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I got to ask you before I let you go,

664
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 2>about a couple of coaches, your beloved Gators trying to

665
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>survive under coach Napier. Down there are a lot of people

666
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 2>thought he'd be gone by now. Of course, not that

667
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's looking ahead, But next up on the schedules a

668
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>trip to Gainesville. What's going on down there? Is he

669
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.279
<v Speaker 2>going to survive? And then what do you see?

670
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 5>Think I'll tell this, I'll say this, I am surprised actually.

671
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 5>With as bad as Florida was in two of the

672
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 5>first three ball games, with the third being Stamford, I

673
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.079
<v Speaker 5>think there are a lot of people that were ready

674
00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 5>to make a change. I think Florida was getting embarrassed

675
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.840
<v Speaker 5>in terms of the lines of scrimmage. I think that

676
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 5>they were trying to do too much as it related

677
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 5>to playing too many guys, and I think they're starting

678
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 5>to figure some things out now. With that being said,

679
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, the last two wins they've had are against

680
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.559
<v Speaker 5>Mississippi State, who's the probably the worst team in the conference,

681
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 5>and then against the UCF team that I'm not sure

682
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:42.920
<v Speaker 5>is gonna win a whole lot of games the rest

683
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 5>of the way. As I watched that tape, they're not

684
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 5>very physical and not very athletics, So I don't know.

685
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 5>I think you needed it as a bit of confidence.

686
00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:54.599
<v Speaker 5>But maybe the thing I was most impressed with was

687
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.400
<v Speaker 5>the swamp energy the fans showed up. I mean, it

688
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 5>had some electricity in there like the old days, and

689
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, sometimes it's easy to kind of lose interest,

690
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.519
<v Speaker 5>and I felt like there was a lot of apathy

691
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 5>creeping into the Florida fan base. But to see them

692
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 5>show up for a game like that against UCF and

693
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.639
<v Speaker 5>bring it. It definitely provided a home field advantage. So

694
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm excited to see what Florida can do on the road.

695
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 5>Not a lot of people giving them much of a

696
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 5>shot against Tennessee this week, but I do think there's

697
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 5>some things, like you know this as well as I'm

698
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.880
<v Speaker 5>watching this conference this year, like I don't know who

699
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 5>teams are with the week. I mean, they're so inconsistent

700
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 5>right now, and I think a lot of it has

701
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 5>to do with the quarterback play. But I do think

702
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 5>what you saw from Nico on Saturday night at Arkansas

703
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.679
<v Speaker 5>was a freshman that's still learning, that has great potential,

704
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 5>that has moments of being sharp, but didn't necessarily have

705
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 5>his eyes in the right place, didn't anticipate throws very well,

706
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.840
<v Speaker 5>didn't throw with great accuracy, and at the end of

707
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 5>the day, you know, there was a lot of energy

708
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 5>on that Arkansas defense and Travis Williams did a great

709
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 5>job with the game plan, but there were still a

710
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 5>lot of guys winning one on one battles, and so

711
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 5>Florida needs to find that same energy. Sometimes it's good

712
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 5>to go on the road and kind of have that

713
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 5>us against the world mentality Florida, as you know, I

714
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 5>think what's seventeen and three in the last twenty matchups

715
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 5>between them and the balls. So something a little mastery

716
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.639
<v Speaker 5>that exists for the Florida side, and I hope it

717
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 5>becomes the ballgame man. Me being you know, clearly biased here,

718
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.920
<v Speaker 5>I hope I get a chance to celebrate a Dator

719
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.039
<v Speaker 5>victory on Saturday night.

720
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee's got to get right after that performance just a

721
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>minute or two lit But I gotta ask you your

722
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>reaction to the people who were talking about of course,

723
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was you can set your watch by it.

724
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 2>This Vandy loss would not have happened if saving had

725
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 2>been there and you got a player acting out on

726
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>the field and that kind of thing. Is this an

727
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>early I don't know what to call it, a turning point,

728
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>but an important point for Calen de Bore.

729
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a massive important point. It was impossible

730
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 5>for anybody to replace Nick Stavin on the Alabama sideline.

731
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 5>I think you got to give cut Staban the credit

732
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 5>for understanding that the game was changing so much that

733
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.480
<v Speaker 5>maybe he wasn't gonna be as effective as he was

734
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:18.079
<v Speaker 5>before and maybe didn't have the patience for it. It's tough,

735
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 5>and Kirby Smart talked about it this week like it

736
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 5>is difficult. Teams aren't gonna go undefeated as much anymore

737
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 5>with the competitiveness of the league is way up.

738
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

739
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 5>But really the roster Thinness that you don't have to

740
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 5>depth of talent that you used to have. Herby talked

741
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.199
<v Speaker 5>about how you have to develop the bottom half of

742
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:40.119
<v Speaker 5>your your roster better now because those guys are are

743
00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 5>gonna inevitably be forced into action. So I do think

744
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 5>that that Alabama has a lot of young players at

745
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 5>at different spots. I think they're trying to figure out

746
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 5>who they're they're going to be from a culture standpoint.

747
00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 5>Quite a shock, I imagine for a lot of those guys

748
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 5>that were recruited to the play for Nick Staban and

749
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.880
<v Speaker 5>now find themselves in a much more friendly environment there

750
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 5>and some probably trying to take advantage of that to

751
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 5>some degree. But that was a bad look. The losing

752
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:13.519
<v Speaker 5>was one thing, but the way that Malachi Moore acted

753
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 5>was a bad look, and maybe most embarrassing was just

754
00:38:16.719 --> 00:38:19.239
<v Speaker 5>waving off the substitution when he was coming out there

755
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 5>telling kay Wama, the defensive coordinator no, and basically just

756
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 5>completely telling the coaching staff to havevolved. So they've got

757
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 5>to get that under control this week. But I have

758
00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 5>no doubt that Calen the board is going to be successful.

759
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 3>There.

760
00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Chris Doring, you see him and hear him on the

761
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:41.280
<v Speaker 2>SEC network, SEC Radio, SEC television. It is an entertaining

762
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Saturday evening when he and his teammates cover the entire SEC.

763
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much as always, and look forward to

764
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>bumping into you again sometime.

765
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it sounds good. They always fun to be on

766
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 5>with you. Thanks for having me.

767
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Our number two with Sean Woods in West End, BUA.

768
00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Chief Gary Moore is on the way here on a

769
00:38:58.199 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>Big Blewing Sider six thirty say welcome back to the

770
00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Big Bluins Cider. It is Wednesday, which means we are

771
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 2>visiting with unforgettable guard Shawn Woods. His jersey hangs in

772
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.239
<v Speaker 2>the rafters of Rupp and Sean. You were back in

773
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Memorial Coliseum now Historic Memorial Coliseum for pro Day and

774
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 2>first of all, what did you think of the renovations

775
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 2>because you spent many many hours there practicing.

776
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:35.280
<v Speaker 3>Man, it looks great. You know. I was sitting there

777
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 3>with Rock Oliver and we would just talk about old

778
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:41.039
<v Speaker 3>times about where the weight room used to be. Even

779
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:45.840
<v Speaker 3>before he got there. You know, men'som men's and women's basketball,

780
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 3>we had to be lift weights the little waits that

781
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 3>we had underneath the bleaches over there in the corner.

782
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.519
<v Speaker 3>And then when coach Latino rock Them came they renovated

783
00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.719
<v Speaker 3>a little bit and added a really state of the

784
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:02.880
<v Speaker 3>arts at the time weight room with glass windows that

785
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:07.760
<v Speaker 3>can look outside to the gym. I think that was

786
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:10.960
<v Speaker 3>built in like nineteen nineteen ninety or something like that,

787
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:16.840
<v Speaker 3>and now that's completely gone, and you know it looks like,

788
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, a great venue, you know what I mean,

789
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:26.159
<v Speaker 3>it's a great college venue. Unfortunately, you know, it doesn't

790
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 3>hold enough to hold Kentucky basketball games, but man, it

791
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 3>would be a great home court advantage to play in

792
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 3>that little cracker box. It's a cracker box now, but

793
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:35.880
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't fact then.

794
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, it will be for the women and for women's volleyball.

795
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Of course. You bring up a couple of interesting points.

796
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Number one, how did you feel about weightlifting when you

797
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.400
<v Speaker 2>got to college? Had you done much in high school?

798
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.480
<v Speaker 2>And then what kind of a challenge was that for you?

799
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, we lifted in high school a little bit, you

800
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. And you know our school where

801
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.199
<v Speaker 3>I went, you know, it was really big in football.

802
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 3>It was great to audition great wrestling tradition, any basketball tradition,

803
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.920
<v Speaker 3>So weightlifting was was not foreign to me when I

804
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 3>got here. It was just it became more intense when

805
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 3>you ran into to Etcherberry. If everybody remembers him, one

806
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.000
<v Speaker 3>of the best strength coaches of all time, and I

807
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.880
<v Speaker 3>was fortunate enough for him to touch me. And then

808
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Rock Oliver came and shoot, he blew it out of

809
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 3>the water. I mean, he's the best that they ever

810
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 3>done it.

811
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you tell me about your

812
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 2>relationship with Rock. Were you guys afraid of him? Intimidated

813
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 2>by him? Because I'm certain it can be kind of

814
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 2>a scary guy.

815
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 3>We were intimidated big time. You know. Rock had a great,

816
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, jolly personality, but man, he could get you going.

817
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 3>And he was a guy that you know, I mean,

818
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to mess around with you strictly business.

819
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.599
<v Speaker 3>And I say all the time that Rock Oliver was

820
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 3>Coach Patino's best assistant, and Coach Patino had probably the

821
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.119
<v Speaker 3>best coaching staff in America during that time.

822
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, you look at his coach. That was an

823
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 2>all star coaching staff, wasn't it.

824
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh, no doubt about it, you know, and nobody knew it.

825
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, who would have thought Billy Diving as a

826
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.639
<v Speaker 3>young grad assistant or whatever he he you know, to

827
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:18.079
<v Speaker 3>be a be where he is coaching the Chicago Boys

828
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 3>making six million the year. Probably the smartest person in

829
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 3>that bunch was Herb Sinde. Yeah yeah, but the most

830
00:43:26.719 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 3>level headed, the smooth coach was Ralph Willard.

831
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Why do you say that?

832
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Because he was. I mean, the coach is so smart.

833
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 3>That's the reason why coach Patino always keeps trust him.

834
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>When he was coaching that team, the Mexican team on

835
00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 3>the Puerto Rican team at one time. I mean coach coach,

836
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean didn't look what he did at at Western

837
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:50.159
<v Speaker 3>and tied with Holly nothing. I mean, he's really he's

838
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.800
<v Speaker 3>really really smart and intelligent guy. And he's a big

839
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 3>time second guy. You know, he was Coach Patino's main man.

840
00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:01.360
<v Speaker 3>And and those two like Avid and Stello. You know,

841
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 3>the personality was so different coaches this raging guy and

842
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.679
<v Speaker 3>Ralph was this laid back guy that still got his

843
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:13.239
<v Speaker 3>point across Yeah, and then you throw Tubby Smith in there. Man.

844
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:15.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, now you've add some flavor. Probably you know,

845
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.719
<v Speaker 3>it comes back and wins the National Championship and going

846
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:22.599
<v Speaker 3>to be, you know, a Hall of Fame coach. So

847
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 3>when you got three Hall of famers for sure in

848
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:29.519
<v Speaker 3>that bunch, yeah, you know, I think Billy Donovan eventionally

849
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 3>be all Hall of Famer. Yeah, I definitely think Tubby

850
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Smith should be a Hall of Famer. But the two

851
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.519
<v Speaker 3>most underrated guys on that staff was Ralph Willard and

852
00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Hurts And that interesting.

853
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>You as a head coach have put together more than

854
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:46.920
<v Speaker 2>one coaching staff. What goes into that, Sean, You.

855
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 3>Got to have guys that can trust, that you can trust,

856
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 3>first of all. Second of all, you want some guys

857
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 3>that know that can bring something to the table. You know,

858
00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.199
<v Speaker 3>you need some guys that can go out and recruit.

859
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Of course, you know that can go beat the bushes

860
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:01.719
<v Speaker 3>and get but it's still up to you to close

861
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 3>as a head coach. But you just want some guys

862
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 3>that you know what I mean, that that that that

863
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 3>have the same passion and desire and work ethic that

864
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 3>you have of being great.

865
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Can you explain the loyalty part you were talking about.

866
00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.480
<v Speaker 2>You have to have people you can trust. Uh. And

867
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 2>yet you see some coaches who hire people that have

868
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 2>never worked with them, other people they'll bring from a

869
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>previous job or somebody they've worked with before. You know,

870
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, are you rolling the dice on a new

871
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>person or is it too easy to surround yourself with

872
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>people you already know?

873
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't say it's too easy, but sometimes you know,

874
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:47.679
<v Speaker 3>when you're successful, you've had somebody has around you already. Yeah,

875
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 3>you know that you can trust, has helped you get

876
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 3>where you are, and there's a bond and an expectation

877
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 3>and and the know all you know those guys that

878
00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 3>they know you, they know what makes you take they

879
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 3>know they know the system, and they could get across

880
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to the players. You don't want a coach as a

881
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 3>point at least resistance. And what I mean by that

882
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:11.920
<v Speaker 3>is he doesn't like working for you because X, Y

883
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 3>and Z, And then a player is upset because of X,

884
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Y and Z, and then he sides with the player.

885
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.719
<v Speaker 3>That happens a lot, or he sides with the parents,

886
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:24.159
<v Speaker 3>or he's just jealous, or he's using you to get

887
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 3>a job. And sometimes you got guys that are out

888
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 3>there that are backstabbing you, going to the a D,

889
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 3>letting the a D know what's going on in camp,

890
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, from a negative standpoint, just trying to you know,

891
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:41.880
<v Speaker 3>offset to better themselves and position themselves. And that happens,

892
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.360
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it's tough. And then sometimes you take

893
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 3>a job to where, you know, especially small jobs, which

894
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 3>will happen to me. You know, I was forced to

895
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 3>keep the staff that was already there, which wasn't good,

896
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:59.360
<v Speaker 3>which was a resident for disaster, so you know, and

897
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes you know, you see coaches now who've been

898
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:06.119
<v Speaker 3>successful for a long time and had a lot of guys,

899
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:08.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, had guys that they either played for them

900
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 3>or work for them for a long time, and then

901
00:47:11.159 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden they go off the beating path

902
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 3>and they start getting these guys they think they got players,

903
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.000
<v Speaker 3>and you just hired a guy because he has a player. Yeah,

904
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 3>well that's when things start to go wrong.

905
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that happens too, doesn't it Probably more.

906
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.119
<v Speaker 3>Than people a lot. It happens a lot.

907
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Is it an unpleasant procedure experience? I mean, you know,

908
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>how did you feel when you I mean, I know,

909
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.199
<v Speaker 2>you're you're always happy to to get a head coaching job,

910
00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:41.119
<v Speaker 2>but now you've got to turn around and hire a staff.

911
00:47:41.400 --> 00:47:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Was it a burden?

912
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 3>It is, Well, it's a burden. It's not a burden.

913
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.159
<v Speaker 3>But you just got to make sure that she got

914
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:49.519
<v Speaker 3>the right guys around you. Yeah, you know, you show

915
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.719
<v Speaker 3>me a successful program. You know, I'll show you that.

916
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's either you have a staff that's been

917
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.280
<v Speaker 3>around you for a long time, or you're you're hiring

918
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.800
<v Speaker 3>guys that played for you.

919
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:01.000
<v Speaker 6>You know.

920
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's it's it's it's real different, you know,

921
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's it can get sticky, you know, it can

922
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:12.280
<v Speaker 3>get tricky. Uh, And it's unfortunate that you have people

923
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 3>that are unloyal like that and you're giving them an opportunity.

924
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I know you went to practices a lot when Cali

925
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Perry was here. I'm assuming you're hoping to do that

926
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 2>with Mark Pope to drop in every now and then.

927
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 2>And I was there the other day prior to pro day,

928
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of input around the court, around the gym

929
00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 2>from the assistant coaches with Cali Perry. All of that

930
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:36.199
<v Speaker 2>happened pre practice, but once it began, his was the

931
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.480
<v Speaker 2>only voice. How are you when you work practices?

932
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 3>No, I gave my guy free rain, you know, because

933
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I want everybody engaged. You know, I want my practice

934
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 3>to be high octane, high enthusiasm, you know, high energy.

935
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 3>So you know, if you if you're the only one

936
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.280
<v Speaker 3>who's the rye rock guy and the other coaches that's

937
00:48:56.320 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 3>standing around just watching, now, that's that's not a good look.

938
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 3>You know. I want everybody engaged and excited and enthusiastic,

939
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, all for the same common goal and what

940
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:09.639
<v Speaker 3>gets you through practice, especially when you're doing the same

941
00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:12.440
<v Speaker 3>thing repetitiously over and over again. To be great at it,

942
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.320
<v Speaker 3>you got to make it exciting. You know, your atmosphere's

943
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 3>got to be very, very enthusiastic, and that's what gets

944
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.599
<v Speaker 3>you through. And you know, some people don't. You know,

945
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 3>you hear one voice, and that voice is positive and negative,

946
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.639
<v Speaker 3>and sometimes you just start to tune them out.

947
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Sean Woods, my guest, the Unforgettable Guard is Jersey Hangs,

948
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:34.920
<v Speaker 2>inter Raptors of rupp. But we'll come back and talk

949
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 2>about UK Pro Day in just a minute. Here on

950
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 2>the Big Blue Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back. We're

951
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:43.679
<v Speaker 2>talking with Sean Woods. We do that each and every Wednesday,

952
00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 2>the Unforgettable Guard and we talked a little bit about

953
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 2>coaching in general. And you were at Pro Day. You

954
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.840
<v Speaker 2>got a chance to take a peek at Mark Pope's

955
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.880
<v Speaker 2>ball club. And really Pro Day was basically a practice

956
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>just in front of a lot of scouts. Did anything

957
00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:05.320
<v Speaker 2>in particular jump out at you.

958
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 3>No, not really, you know, I just thought it was

959
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 3>a typical practice, you know, not a lot of things

960
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 3>for the pros to see. As far as you know,

961
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 3>what Kyle would do is and most other guys would

962
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:22.360
<v Speaker 3>do if you did have significant, highly projected pro prospects

963
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:24.599
<v Speaker 3>on your team, you know, you would do a couple

964
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.599
<v Speaker 3>of things to show scouts. You know, I thought, Mark,

965
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 3>did you know what he does is you know they're

966
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>going to hang their head on shooting basketball, so that

967
00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:37.440
<v Speaker 3>you saw a lot of shooting more soon than anything else. Yeah,

968
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's that's about it for right now, for what

969
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you know what I mean, you know,

970
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.079
<v Speaker 3>he that's what he's going to hang his head on,

971
00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and that's who he is. And when you go to

972
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 3>his practices, you know it's more offense, it's more generated

973
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 3>on you know, making you know, making shots more than

974
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 3>anything else. So you know that that that's what I

975
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:03.159
<v Speaker 3>gathered from it.

976
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, I saw a lot of people on Twitter

977
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 2>raving about Mark Pope's offense, and I gotta thank Sean.

978
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.039
<v Speaker 2>It was simply because maybe I'm oversimplifying, but because they

979
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.119
<v Speaker 2>put up so many shots, people love that. Uh, you know,

980
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 2>but they got to go in, don't they. Obviously you got.

981
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 3>To have a physical presence, and you've got to have

982
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:26.320
<v Speaker 3>some great defense, and you gotta be physical, and you've

983
00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 3>got to be tenacious, you know, And so it's going

984
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 3>to be interesting, you know for me. You know, I'm I'm,

985
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm you know, I'm all four putting up threes.

986
00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:41.000
<v Speaker 3>But my coaching style and his coaching style is is

987
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>quite different. You know, I played fast, and you know,

988
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.079
<v Speaker 3>we try to have a seventy five eighty points a game.

989
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 3>But you gotta play defense, and you gotta have some

990
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:51.519
<v Speaker 3>physicality down there from you know, you gotta have an

991
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:55.719
<v Speaker 3>inside presence, and I thought last year with Cal that

992
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:01.800
<v Speaker 3>was a major, major, major downfall with had no physicality inside.

993
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 3>And when you don't have any physicality inside, whether offensively

994
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:09.519
<v Speaker 3>going to get your bucket or defensively protecting the basket.

995
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.440
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna struggle. I don't care how good your offense is.

996
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:16.159
<v Speaker 3>And it showed, and it put a lot more pressure

997
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 3>on those young guards last year because they had to

998
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 3>do so much, because they were so so weak and

999
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:25.239
<v Speaker 3>seeing on the interior.

1000
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I have to admit that all of us,

1001
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:32.079
<v Speaker 2>anybody and including myself, and I went up to Toronto

1002
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 2>and watched this team, and I dismissed the lack of

1003
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.280
<v Speaker 2>interior presence by saying, well, when the Biggs get here,

1004
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.679
<v Speaker 2>they'll be different defensively. They remember they were missing all

1005
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 2>three And I was totally wrong, exactly to your point.

1006
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:51.719
<v Speaker 2>There was just never a consistent presence down there. One guy,

1007
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.039
<v Speaker 2>two guys, three guys. No rim protector. And Kentucky was

1008
00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>a finesse team last year, wasn't it.

1009
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 3>They were? And I thought they got worse when the

1010
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Bigs came back because you had to play them, but

1011
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 3>they gave you no physical presence. I thought that the

1012
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 3>kid from West Virginia, you know, when he was had

1013
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.880
<v Speaker 3>to play the four and the five, a dude brought

1014
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 3>a physical presence that did the other The real true

1015
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 3>Bigs didn't bring. So I thought they got weaker once

1016
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 3>those bigs came back because you played them, but they

1017
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:30.519
<v Speaker 3>were like tissue paper. You know, none of them were

1018
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:35.360
<v Speaker 3>strong enough. You know, you had Big Z coming from overseas,

1019
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 3>hadn't played all year and kept getting sick, kept losing weight,

1020
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 3>never could get his strength. You know, you had the

1021
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 3>other two guys that were just you know, one one

1022
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:48.119
<v Speaker 3>just didn't have a lot of experience, but he did

1023
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:54.079
<v Speaker 3>bring some some tenasty from a shot blocking standpoint. But

1024
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 3>the kids from New Jersey just couldn't get it going.

1025
00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean he realized that, hey, you know, this game

1026
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 3>is more physical than I thought. Yeah, and I thought

1027
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 3>he you know, he's the one who had, you know,

1028
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:05.239
<v Speaker 3>had a hard time find his way.

1029
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:07.880
<v Speaker 2>One of the observation, well I saw it more than once,

1030
00:54:08.519 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>was that Pope has got a lot of talented players,

1031
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>but nobody who's really elite. You know, probably won't be

1032
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.079
<v Speaker 2>a lottery pick or something like that.

1033
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Did you agree with that, Oh, no doubt about it.

1034
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.920
<v Speaker 3>The landscape looks totally different. You know, you don't have

1035
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 3>great playmakers. You know, you don't have pros that can

1036
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:32.159
<v Speaker 3>go make plays. You know, he's going to really rely

1037
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 3>on his offense. His motion and hopefully you know, he

1038
00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:39.079
<v Speaker 3>could shoot the basketball good enough to give him a chance.

1039
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:46.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, that's why recruiting is so so important in

1040
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:48.440
<v Speaker 3>the game. You know, you got to have players. I

1041
00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.840
<v Speaker 3>don't care what type of coach you are. You know,

1042
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.599
<v Speaker 3>you can have like that old saying, you can have

1043
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:54.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, all the excellent those but if you don't

1044
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 3>have the right Jim and Jones, you're in trouble, that's right.

1045
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:02.840
<v Speaker 3>And right now he's really got to get these guys.

1046
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 3>That's why he's been so positive, you know, and getting

1047
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 3>these guys to just overachieve, you know, because it's going

1048
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.719
<v Speaker 3>to take a team to that team to overachieve to

1049
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:15.400
<v Speaker 3>really be successful or have the success that Kentechee fans

1050
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 3>are looking for what he starts to get, you know,

1051
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 3>being and it's his first year, so you know, this

1052
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 3>is his opportunity to really you know, get his his

1053
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.400
<v Speaker 3>his his deal going as far as his system. And

1054
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, unfortunately, after this year, he's got to start

1055
00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 3>all over again because he's got some transfers. But you know,

1056
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:42.079
<v Speaker 3>it's fun to watch the offense, the movement and shooting threes.

1057
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I just hope that somehow, some way that you know,

1058
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 3>they can become more physical and and be athletic enough

1059
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:54.760
<v Speaker 3>to sustain the athleticism and the sec Have you.

1060
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Decided yet what you think this team can accomplish, because

1061
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I've heard, you know, say, oh if we make the tournament,

1062
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh if we get a win or two. But you

1063
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 2>know how Kentucky fans are shown the closer that season comes,

1064
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the more excited they.

1065
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Get, no doubt about it. And my thing is this,

1066
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:18.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, we live in a microwave society. Okay. One

1067
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 3>thing coach Patino had going for him when he first

1068
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.400
<v Speaker 3>got him was we didn't lose a game at home,

1069
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:27.199
<v Speaker 3>so and our games on the road were and televised,

1070
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.880
<v Speaker 3>so he had a pass when when he got this play.

1071
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 3>In front of the fans, we won. They never saw

1072
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:39.760
<v Speaker 3>us lose. But on the road we didn't win a game, right,

1073
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 3>But it wasn't that big of a deal, you know

1074
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:45.159
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, because you came home in front of

1075
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 3>your fans, you so everybody thought, you know, and we

1076
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.840
<v Speaker 3>were successful and fun to watch and fun to watch.

1077
00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.960
<v Speaker 3>So I'm thinking and hoping that Mark has the same

1078
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:58.039
<v Speaker 3>type of impact. You know, when the games at home,

1079
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:01.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, use the crowd and home court advantage to

1080
00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:07.039
<v Speaker 3>your advantage and then grow and try to steal one

1081
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:11.800
<v Speaker 3>or two on the road, just overachieving out playing somebody

1082
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, and with your scheme. But right now, you

1083
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, it's the positivity is what I'm

1084
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:27.719
<v Speaker 3>very impressed with in his camp. You know, just just

1085
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 3>getting guys to just play as hard as they can

1086
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 3>for as long as they can and not kind of

1087
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:37.400
<v Speaker 3>making it a drag. So, you know, we got to

1088
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.679
<v Speaker 3>shoot the ball well to be successful. I'll tell you

1089
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:41.320
<v Speaker 3>that that's for sure.

1090
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you're going to shoot that many times, they

1091
00:57:43.679 --> 00:57:46.159
<v Speaker 2>better go in. I mean, you can be a volume shooter,

1092
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.440
<v Speaker 2>as you well know, but you've got to make them

1093
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.679
<v Speaker 2>as well. I mean, Aaron Rodgers threw the ball fifty

1094
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>four times in the Jets last lost, but only completed

1095
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.599
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine of them. You know, you got to connect.

1096
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:02.360
<v Speaker 3>You remember the games we used to lose. We used

1097
00:58:02.360 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 3>to lose because we didn't shoot the ball. Well, yeah,

1098
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, we didn't shoot the ball. Well, we were

1099
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 3>in trouble because we at that first year, we just

1100
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 3>didn't have enough. We didn't have enough interior. You know,

1101
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:17.760
<v Speaker 3>we didn't have enough you know, taking you off the bounce,

1102
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.559
<v Speaker 3>things like that. We got better at it because we

1103
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 3>were young. We were sophomoors when coach came. So each

1104
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.159
<v Speaker 3>year we got better that summer, we got better for

1105
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 3>that next year, and we won last you see that,

1106
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.000
<v Speaker 3>you know. But but you know those guys that you

1107
00:58:35.000 --> 00:58:37.400
<v Speaker 3>know had to change ropes, John Pelfrey, who had played

1108
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 3>the big all his last in high school. Dan you know,

1109
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 3>never shot threes. You know, all these guys, you know,

1110
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:46.199
<v Speaker 3>we didn't have any. You know, I was the only

1111
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:48.840
<v Speaker 3>pretty much playmaker that could put the ball on the

1112
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.440
<v Speaker 3>on the floor. But you know that next year, everybody

1113
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:57.440
<v Speaker 3>got better. Everybody got better. So now you know that's

1114
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:01.679
<v Speaker 3>the difference with this makeup, well Mark post makeup compared

1115
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:04.800
<v Speaker 3>to Coach Fatino's makeup. We all came back for that

1116
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.639
<v Speaker 3>year and the year after these guys here they're gonna

1117
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:11.079
<v Speaker 3>be gone. So now you got to start all over

1118
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:16.760
<v Speaker 3>and hopefully you can get some freshmen that can help you.

1119
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:18.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, you're gonna have to get a top twenty

1120
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:21.519
<v Speaker 3>five freshman here there. You know, you got one, you know,

1121
00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:23.239
<v Speaker 3>but you're gonna have to get a couple more. And

1122
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:27.440
<v Speaker 3>then you got to wait from a recruiting standpoint, and

1123
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 3>see who's gonna get in the transfer portal. So now

1124
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 3>you know it's not You know you can get your

1125
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.400
<v Speaker 3>freshmen already. Now you got to go get get some

1126
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 3>some some older kids. And where you're gonna get that from.

1127
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 3>You have no idea because the decision is just starting. You

1128
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:41.599
<v Speaker 3>have no idea. Who's transformed?

1129
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>He Sean Woods. He joined us every Wednesday, and watch

1130
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:47.639
<v Speaker 2>for his jersey and the Raptors are up because RUP's

1131
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.440
<v Speaker 2>going to be open soon for basketball. Thank you, coach,

1132
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 2>no poble, appreciate you. Dick West NBA Chief Gary Moore

1133
00:59:54.679 --> 01:00:00.440
<v Speaker 2>up next here on six thirty w LA P Welcome

1134
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 2>back to the Big Moonsider, joining us now as he

1135
01:00:02.480 --> 01:00:06.719
<v Speaker 2>does each and every Wednesday, schedule permitting. YEP is our

1136
01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Western Bureau Chief. Gary moorees at the other end of

1137
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I sixty four and keeps an eye on sports. He

1138
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:15.039
<v Speaker 2>for the longest time was our West Coast Bureau chief

1139
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and back in LA the Louisville area and joins us

1140
01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 2>each week with a list of topics, knee complaints.

1141
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 1>Two guys in a six pack, US two guys, six topics,

1142
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.599
<v Speaker 1>six swigs as they were our first Swig Dick a

1143
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>big thanks first of all to kick off the show

1144
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.639
<v Speaker 1>for the epic fail down in Music City by the

1145
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Alabama Crimson Tide. Apparently the fan base has not been

1146
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:41.159
<v Speaker 1>this upset since the cancelation of Here Comes Honey, Boo

1147
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 1>boo remember that years ago. Thanks for giving us Bama

1148
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:48.199
<v Speaker 1>a heads up that UK's next opponent is not only

1149
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:52.039
<v Speaker 1>not your father's Vanderbilt, they're not even your grandkids as Vandy.

1150
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>They're actually pretty good. Apparently Cat's thirteen and a half

1151
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 1>point favorites. Though Saturday night you'll be down there on

1152
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 1>the field seven forty five. Also in the SEC network,

1153
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:03.960
<v Speaker 1>It's still gonna be about UK's defense. We know that

1154
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:06.679
<v Speaker 1>fifth overall in the nation, Cats are number six against

1155
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:09.639
<v Speaker 1>the run, which is important because Vandy ran for one

1156
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:13.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty six yards against the Tide. Basically, the

1157
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Cats have to pretty much duplicate that old mess game dominate,

1158
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:20.119
<v Speaker 1>time of possession, limit, undersides offense the rest of the season.

1159
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, Oh yeah, interesting. You know I've talked about it

1160
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 2>all week, that the time of possession stat which sometimes

1161
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you throw it out the window, like if they score

1162
01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.239
<v Speaker 2>on special teams or defense and the offense doesn't need

1163
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.599
<v Speaker 2>to get back on the field. But interesting, it was

1164
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:41.119
<v Speaker 2>almost a mirror image Vandy and Kentucky both forty to twenty. Yeah,

1165
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:42.960
<v Speaker 2>time of possession and that's what it takes.

1166
01:01:43.320 --> 01:01:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely hopefully that'll happen for our side on Saturday night,

1167
01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:49.840
<v Speaker 1>our second swig in the six packs. So Southern Methodist University,

1168
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:52.800
<v Speaker 1>as you know, was here last weekend, reminded me of

1169
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 1>arguably their most popular alum, Dandy Don Meridith So who

1170
01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 1>was so popular during his college day. You know this

1171
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>will be not in Dallas that SMU was nicknamed for

1172
01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a while Southern Meredith University. But I think back to

1173
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:09.360
<v Speaker 1>what Don said he's miked up for NFL films when

1174
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 1>he played for Dallas. He said some of the effective

1175
01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:13.760
<v Speaker 1>not now listen and listen good. We're going to run

1176
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the ball, were going pass the ball. We're going right

1177
01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:19.000
<v Speaker 1>down this field and we're going to score, which is

1178
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what as Almama Mater did on the opening drive

1179
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:25.440
<v Speaker 1>against Louisville, and again and again and again they basically

1180
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 1>punked the cards on their own field. Louisville was so

1181
01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 1>dominated on both sides of the ball that fans took

1182
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to social media so vehemently that star defensive end Ashton

1183
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Julyatti's mom had to post her own defense of her

1184
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 1>boy and the team, which is now, by the way,

1185
01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 1>a seven and a half point favorite at Virginia. On Saturday,

1186
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 1>wdrb's Eric Crawford, who you know, wrote that now with

1187
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:52.679
<v Speaker 1>players taking the dough, they're basically pro athletes got to

1188
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.320
<v Speaker 1>take the extra booze and criticism. So ask you, are

1189
01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:00.360
<v Speaker 1>college players now fair game for more intensified criticism like

1190
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the pros?

1191
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Because my contention had always been, yeah, you can

1192
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.320
<v Speaker 2>boo the coach, although it's hard to do that with

1193
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.840
<v Speaker 2>that ripping the player, but yeah, the coaches paid big

1194
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>bucks and they're paid to take that kind of flack.

1195
01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 2>That's what they sign up for. And it might have

1196
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:19.079
<v Speaker 2>been naive of me to think that college kids should

1197
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.079
<v Speaker 2>not be booed because they were not, But as you

1198
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:24.880
<v Speaker 2>point out, now they are. Yeah. Not only are they

1199
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:27.719
<v Speaker 2>accepting it and that's all well and good, they're going

1200
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 2>after it, they're shopping for it. And now, of course

1201
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you've got a rule that that was just handed down

1202
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:38.559
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that the letter of intents going away

1203
01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:44.039
<v Speaker 2>in say schools have decided no more Loi financial aid

1204
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 2>and scholarship agreements are going to be used basically like contracts.

1205
01:03:48.119 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's going to be more much more professional.

1206
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:53.840
<v Speaker 7>Third swig and a six pack.

1207
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 1>But before those Cats and Cards games on Saturday Tomorrow night,

1208
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>big doings down in Bowling Green. My Hilltoppers with a

1209
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:02.920
<v Speaker 1>new big red mascot eyes on the Helmet's got a

1210
01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:06.599
<v Speaker 1>big redout against oh to five UTEP. That'll be on

1211
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 1>ESPN U eight pm tomorrow night. Hey Toppers number five

1212
01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:14.000
<v Speaker 1>in the country, red zone defense. Just got to say

1213
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:18.159
<v Speaker 1>back to Saturday in the matchup of the season since

1214
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Bama and Georgia number two, Ohio State at number three

1215
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Oregon such a huge game that ESPN Game Day is

1216
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be there in Eugene. By the way, if

1217
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you haven't been to Eugene, great college town is one

1218
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite college towns, like where they were last

1219
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:35.199
<v Speaker 1>week for Berkeley. If I had seen Berkeley before Bowling Green, Dick,

1220
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I would have sold it. I would have sold as

1221
01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:39.800
<v Speaker 1>much plasma as possible to get out there to enroll

1222
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Bucks over the Ducks by three and a half. Currently,

1223
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 1>that's the latest line that's at seven thirty Saturday on

1224
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:49.800
<v Speaker 1>NBC also on Saturday, Number one Texas, Number eighteen Oklahoma

1225
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:53.039
<v Speaker 1>the Red River rivalry in the Cotton Bowl. Number four

1226
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Penn State now goes the other side of the country

1227
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to reeling USC after the other LA school, UCLA travel

1228
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.119
<v Speaker 1>forty five hundred miles to Penn State.

1229
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:03.000
<v Speaker 7>Last week.

1230
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.440
<v Speaker 1>You also got number nine, old mess at number thirteen LSU.

1231
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:09.360
<v Speaker 1>I ask you though, on the first big game, can

1232
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:14.519
<v Speaker 1>the quack attack fly past and Ohio State University.

1233
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.679
<v Speaker 2>No, here's what's gonna happen. And I'll start with your Hilltoppers, who,

1234
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:21.760
<v Speaker 2>by the way, according to a way too soon prediction

1235
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:25.159
<v Speaker 2>column in USA today, will win the conference and we'll

1236
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.920
<v Speaker 2>play get sell your plasma now Gary in the Hawaii Bowl.

1237
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:31.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's the prediction. Yeah, so you need to be

1238
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:36.599
<v Speaker 2>ready for that. No, Western Kentucky will will win, Ohio

1239
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:40.079
<v Speaker 2>State will destroy Oregon. That's going to be a blowout. Yeah,

1240
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Texas will spank Oklahoma. Okay, Penn State will spank Southern

1241
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:49.199
<v Speaker 2>col I do believe Ole Miss LSU will be a

1242
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.519
<v Speaker 2>good game. But those three high profile games that the

1243
01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:55.639
<v Speaker 2>network suits are drooling over right now, I don't think

1244
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:58.360
<v Speaker 2>they'll be And I hope I'm wrong. I hope they're

1245
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.199
<v Speaker 2>great games, but that's my prediction. I think they're gonna

1246
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 2>be buck kickings. And I think Texas and Ohio State

1247
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 2>will separate themselves. And as you said, Southern col is reeling.

1248
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Penn State's probably better than we think it is.

1249
01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:13.119
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'll keep those in mind.

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01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Thanks buddy.

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01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:17.440
<v Speaker 1>All Right, our fourth swig besides my toppers on a

1252
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:21.320
<v Speaker 1>screen near you tomorrow night, my Seahawks Thursday Night Football

1253
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 1>three and a half Underbirds to the Niners, and I

1254
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:25.320
<v Speaker 1>will tell you if Seattle plays like they did against

1255
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.639
<v Speaker 1>the crummy Giants last Sunday, a team that defensive end

1256
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:32.519
<v Speaker 1>for Seattle, Leonard Williams said we kind of underestimated, then

1257
01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the Hawks will lose by more than three and a

1258
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:36.440
<v Speaker 1>half Tomorrow night. I guarantee you that after that. My

1259
01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.039
<v Speaker 1>top three to see in the NFL on Sunday check

1260
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:43.159
<v Speaker 1>these out. Washington Jade and Daniels Show at Baltimore with

1261
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.079
<v Speaker 1>La Marvelous and the Ravens. You also got the Chargers

1262
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.039
<v Speaker 1>at the Broncos Big AFC West game, and of course

1263
01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:52.800
<v Speaker 1>we got Detroit at Dallas Lions looking to avenge that

1264
01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Week seventeen loss. We all remember that controversial call against

1265
01:06:57.239 --> 01:06:59.559
<v Speaker 1>the Lions and left tackle Taylor Decker.

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01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:01.719
<v Speaker 7>Who did report as eligible by God.

1267
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And you also have Monday night the Bills now two

1268
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:07.760
<v Speaker 1>and a half point favorites at the Jets, who, as

1269
01:07:07.800 --> 01:07:11.199
<v Speaker 1>we know, fired Robert Sala yesterday, but at least they

1270
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:12.199
<v Speaker 1>still have head coach.

1271
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.360
<v Speaker 7>Aaron Rodgers at that part.

1272
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

1273
01:07:16.920 --> 01:07:19.559
<v Speaker 7>You got the Lions, Ravens, Chargers favorites. Who you like

1274
01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:20.159
<v Speaker 7>in any of those?

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01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it's interesting to me watching San Francisco

1276
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.800
<v Speaker 2>crumble a little bit, and I do think Seattle bounces back.

1277
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a well coached team with an underrated quarterback.

1278
01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:33.679
<v Speaker 2>So I wouldn't be at all surprised if Seattle pulls

1279
01:07:33.719 --> 01:07:37.119
<v Speaker 2>off that win and kind of shakes off what happened.

1280
01:07:37.119 --> 01:07:39.039
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not just saying I like Seattle as well.

1281
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I constantly remind you the play

1282
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:46.239
<v Speaker 2>but play man is Steve rabel A, Proud Trinity Shamrock.

1283
01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:48.039
<v Speaker 7>Great guy, too, great, does a great job.

1284
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I love this, it really does. It's a good dude.

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01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Played I think eight years at Georgia Tech and gave

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01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:55.840
<v Speaker 2>up his final year. He's gonna play one more year

1287
01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and They're like, we got this TV and radio gig

1288
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:00.800
<v Speaker 2>over here. Okay, I'm good by football. So the next thing,

1289
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:04.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's a media star. Boy. You talk about

1290
01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:10.119
<v Speaker 2>a Beltway rivalry, Washington and Baltimore means something. Now, yeh.

1291
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 2>With Jaden Daniels, you know, the most exciting young quarterback

1292
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:19.560
<v Speaker 2>in the league, and and against Lamar Jackson, I think

1293
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a tight one. But I like, I

1294
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:26.159
<v Speaker 2>do like Baltimore. That Detroit Dallas game. I think Detroit

1295
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.239
<v Speaker 2>beats up Dallas in that game. I really do. I

1296
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.840
<v Speaker 2>think Detroit it's like, we got something for you. I'm

1297
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:35.600
<v Speaker 2>looking forward, not just because I hate Dallas, but yeah,

1298
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:39.279
<v Speaker 2>that was that controversy that never went away. Bill's Jets.

1299
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it matters right now who the head

1300
01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:45.079
<v Speaker 2>coach is. Their offense is so dysfunctional. Got a really

1301
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:49.399
<v Speaker 2>great defense, but I could see that going down to

1302
01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the last position. There's something wrong with the Bills right now.

1303
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:54.600
<v Speaker 7>Jets the worst rushing team in NFL.

1304
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:55.720
<v Speaker 2>By the way, well that's not.

1305
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Good fitthswig and a six pack dick. Having grown up

1306
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.640
<v Speaker 1>here in the Commonwealth and living in LA for many years,

1307
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:02.279
<v Speaker 1>as you know, I can tell you. There are many

1308
01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:06.720
<v Speaker 1>things the Kentucky Basketball and the Dodgers and their fan

1309
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:09.880
<v Speaker 1>bases all have in common, sides wearing lovely shades of

1310
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.800
<v Speaker 1>blue to the ball games. Both UK and the Dodgers

1311
01:09:12.800 --> 01:09:15.479
<v Speaker 1>have rich traditions of winning. As we know, UK has

1312
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:20.199
<v Speaker 1>eight national championships, Dodgers seven World Series. Played before yearly

1313
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:24.279
<v Speaker 1>packed houses and showcase houses at that demanding fan bases

1314
01:09:24.279 --> 01:09:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that ultimately judge both on what they do in the postseason.

1315
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.920
<v Speaker 1>For the Cats, what matters is March. The Dodgers, it's

1316
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:34.520
<v Speaker 1>now October, and tonight the Dodgers are a game away

1317
01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.399
<v Speaker 1>from failing to reach the second round of the National

1318
01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:41.079
<v Speaker 1>League Playoffs again for the third agonizing year in a row.

1319
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Lexington's Walker Bueller again last night had problems putting away

1320
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 1>hitters with two strikes. His defense also let him down,

1321
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and that six to five loss. Big bottom line on

1322
01:09:51.039 --> 01:09:56.359
<v Speaker 1>this Padre Superstar Tatis is out hitting Dodgers impending mvpd

1323
01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:59.560
<v Speaker 1>otani as are all the Padres for that matter, and

1324
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:01.439
<v Speaker 1>they're out the Dodgers, who, by the way, are going

1325
01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:04.039
<v Speaker 1>to have the duct tape together. A bullpen game tonight,

1326
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the most important game of the year, which is part

1327
01:10:06.640 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 1>for their season, Dick. It feels like the Padres are

1328
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:12.199
<v Speaker 1>not only on a roll to get to the NLCS,

1329
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:15.399
<v Speaker 1>but probably to the World Series, probably will win it.

1330
01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Which is the team of destiny? Is that the Padres,

1331
01:10:19.039 --> 01:10:23.239
<v Speaker 2>the Mets or the Tigers. That's why these playoffs are fun. Yeah,

1332
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:25.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, people didn't expect these teams to make runs

1333
01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, every year, Gary, and we talk

1334
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:31.399
<v Speaker 2>about it as seams. Every year there's a great hitter,

1335
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:35.399
<v Speaker 2>a hot hitter who suddenly buried in the postseason. But

1336
01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 2>then we wisely talk about the fact that, well, great

1337
01:10:39.079 --> 01:10:40.600
<v Speaker 2>pitching takes care of great hitting.

1338
01:10:40.640 --> 01:10:40.800
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1339
01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.239
<v Speaker 2>So I am a bit surprised at Otani is struggling

1340
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 2>the way he is, But to your point, I'm more

1341
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:51.000
<v Speaker 2>surprised that as a team, San Diego is out performing

1342
01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:53.640
<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers until you take a look, as you said,

1343
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:57.199
<v Speaker 2>at that roster of pitchers, and that's what we all

1344
01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:00.239
<v Speaker 2>thought would carry the Dodgers this year. And nobody's Otto

1345
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Tani whatever year like this, you know, but pitching was

1346
01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the thing. And you know, you can spend, spend, spend,

1347
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:09.720
<v Speaker 2>but if you're not healthy, it doesn't matter.

1348
01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Sixth and final swig let's talk a little bit aboot hockey.

1349
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Last night, the NHL opened their twenty four to twenty

1350
01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.079
<v Speaker 1>five season, the first game ever for the Utah Hockey Club.

1351
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:23.840
<v Speaker 1>That's their name, is no mascot or real name yet,

1352
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and they won their first game over the Blackhawks five

1353
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:29.079
<v Speaker 1>to two. They're in Salt Lake City. Salt Lake basically

1354
01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:31.800
<v Speaker 1>inherited the Arizona Coyotes in April. They had one hundred

1355
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:34.560
<v Speaker 1>and seventy three days, just one hundred and seventy three days,

1356
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to re establish the organization, transport people, infrastructure, outfit the

1357
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Delta Center for hockey as well as hoops, get sponsors,

1358
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.399
<v Speaker 1>sell to the public, and oh yeah, take up a

1359
01:11:43.399 --> 01:11:45.880
<v Speaker 1>cool color scheme in uniforms and a team name. So

1360
01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:48.159
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be a hockey club for now. And

1361
01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:50.239
<v Speaker 1>they amazing to do all of that in one hundred

1362
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and seventy three days. Hopefully Utah won't use the same

1363
01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 1>sports consultants that Washington used for a whole year plus.

1364
01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Then they finally came up with the perpetually lame commander's name.

1365
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.439
<v Speaker 1>But they did do one thing really right. They made

1366
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:07.119
<v Speaker 1>some concessions affordable, a lot of concessions hot dogs, popcorn, nachos,

1367
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 1>ice cream three bucks each, bottled water two bucks. Of course,

1368
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.479
<v Speaker 1>you don't go to sporting events for health food, but

1369
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you also don't want to get gorged while you're gouged.

1370
01:12:16.399 --> 01:12:18.680
<v Speaker 1>While you're there as well, you can get gorged obviously.

1371
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Kind of reminds me of when the Angels new owners

1372
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:24.600
<v Speaker 1>cut their beer prices by almost fifty percent twenty years ago,

1373
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.720
<v Speaker 1>which you, of all people remember and commented on still

1374
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to this day.

1375
01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and the Falcons have done that as well.

1376
01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:33.439
<v Speaker 7>They sell more beer.

1377
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their concessions are quite affordable, even though you can't

1378
01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:38.600
<v Speaker 2>get Chick fil A in the stadium on Sunday. How

1379
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:41.560
<v Speaker 2>about that. Gary Moore is our Western bureau chief. We'll

1380
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:43.239
<v Speaker 2>come back with a couple of hot reads for Gary

1381
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:44.840
<v Speaker 2>in just a minute here on the Big Bloon Sider

1382
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:48.680
<v Speaker 2>six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider,

1383
01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.319
<v Speaker 2>talking with our Western Bureau chief, Gary Moore. Time for

1384
01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:53.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple of hot reds and Gary, you touched on

1385
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.279
<v Speaker 2>this earlier Robert sala out as the head coach with

1386
01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:00.199
<v Speaker 2>the Jets Woody Johnson when he showed up for work.

1387
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.239
<v Speaker 2>When Salad did said hit for a minute and it

1388
01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:07.279
<v Speaker 2>was all over. Yeah, speculation is that Aaron Rodgers fired

1389
01:13:07.319 --> 01:13:10.439
<v Speaker 2>him out la Lebron James. But what he Johnson swears

1390
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:13.439
<v Speaker 2>that's not the case. But the word is Gary that

1391
01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Johnson wanted to sack or at least demote offensive coordinator

1392
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Nathaniel Hackett, and that's where it all came together. But

1393
01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind, Hackett is Rogers guy. So it's just

1394
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:28.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you call an experiment gone wrong,

1395
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:29.319
<v Speaker 2>but it's a mess.

1396
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly, Rogers talked with Johnson after the London game, and

1397
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.720
<v Speaker 1>he also talked with him and met with him Monday night,

1398
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and Sally got it yesterday morning. His ID card didn't

1399
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:43.520
<v Speaker 1>work when he's trying to open the door or something.

1400
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:47.560
<v Speaker 1>But I hate when that happens. And but Johnson goes

1401
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.199
<v Speaker 1>on and says, no, Aaron had nothing to do with

1402
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the whole decision. Yeah, right, give us some of that.

1403
01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.800
<v Speaker 1>They give us some of that ocean side property in

1404
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Arizona while you're at it.

1405
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Everybody who's working here, step forward, not so fast. Our

1406
01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:04.079
<v Speaker 2>second high read for Gary is the change of management

1407
01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati. Now we know that David Bell was out.

1408
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:11.680
<v Speaker 2>In all fairness, he was dealt to losing hand, so

1409
01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:15.159
<v Speaker 2>many injuries to the pitching staff and another payroll being

1410
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:17.399
<v Speaker 2>what it was. But now I think Gary, they make

1411
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:21.760
<v Speaker 2>a brilliant move. They go hire Tito Francona, who proved

1412
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.960
<v Speaker 2>he could do it in Boston, proved he could do

1413
01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.079
<v Speaker 2>it in Cleveland, took a year off for his health

1414
01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and now has come back and he's one of those

1415
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:33.000
<v Speaker 2>managers players love. But one of the reasons is he'll

1416
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:35.800
<v Speaker 2>tell him what maybe they don't like, but what they

1417
01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:39.600
<v Speaker 2>need to hear. And somebody asked him after he was

1418
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:43.399
<v Speaker 2>presented his jersey, which apparently is number seventy seven, can

1419
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:46.199
<v Speaker 2>he win a World Series title in Cincinnati? Terry?

1420
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:47.800
<v Speaker 7>Can you win a championship in Cincinnati?

1421
01:14:48.359 --> 01:14:50.359
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, I'm not going to sit here and

1422
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:54.359
<v Speaker 6>proclaim anything because that's I'm not smart, but I'm not

1423
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:55.239
<v Speaker 6>that dumb.

1424
01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:56.960
<v Speaker 2>But that's our goal.

1425
01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.399
<v Speaker 6>You better believe it. Man, we show up. We're going

1426
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 6>to show up, win and be the best team we

1427
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.359
<v Speaker 6>can be. In god man, we're heck, yeah, we're going

1428
01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:06.000
<v Speaker 6>to try to win.

1429
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.760
<v Speaker 2>That's not a guarantee, but that's brilliant coach speak right there,

1430
01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.319
<v Speaker 2>isn't it. Yeah, We're going to try to win, of course.

1431
01:15:14.159 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got a couple of rings here that you

1432
01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 1>might be interested in what looking at very closely, especially

1433
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the two thousand and four one which brought people. Look

1434
01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:25.199
<v Speaker 1>at the context of the two thousand and four Red

1435
01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Sox win. How many years jinks jinks, jinks every all

1436
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:32.079
<v Speaker 1>those years people didn't think in their lifetime. You know,

1437
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:35.760
<v Speaker 1>people in the whole New England area, especially Boston Wept

1438
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:38.119
<v Speaker 1>who'd been Red Sox fans for years.

1439
01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:38.880
<v Speaker 7>He's a good guy.

1440
01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And look, Bruce Bochie came back and he's three years

1441
01:15:41.920 --> 01:15:44.399
<v Speaker 1>older than Terry Yep. Came back and for the same

1442
01:15:44.439 --> 01:15:46.520
<v Speaker 1>reasons that he kind of left. There was a management

1443
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:48.560
<v Speaker 1>change in in San Francisco as well, but he had

1444
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:50.199
<v Speaker 1>some health issues, came back.

1445
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:50.479
<v Speaker 7>And can do it.

1446
01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm just wondering if the Cardinals now get rid of

1447
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Ali and get Larusa back in the dugout, maybe maybe not.

1448
01:15:56.239 --> 01:15:59.199
<v Speaker 2>You can keep him awake during the game, it might help. Well.

1449
01:15:59.239 --> 01:15:59.479
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Red Sox eighty six year drought ended, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>in large part to Tito. Reds have only been without

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01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:09.520
<v Speaker 2>for what thirty odd years. That ain't nothing compared to

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<v Speaker 2>what was going on in New England. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for that two thousand and four coronation

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01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:17.560
<v Speaker 1>there at Bush Stadium when they start up the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you just knew that you're in the statey like, nah, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this ain't going to happen. There's a mojo going on

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<v Speaker 1>over there in that visiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Dug out well after they came back against the Yankees.

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<v Speaker 2>The way they did it was it was destined.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with that Dave Roberts guy who stole second Gee,

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<v Speaker 1>what's he doing nowadays? HU, hope he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an unemployment line.

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<v Speaker 2>Next year to say, I know he's pulling his hair out.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary mars Our, West End Bureau Chief. Find him on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter at at nine to.

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<v Speaker 7>Five five Gary, where you're also located at.

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<v Speaker 2>At Big Boon Cider one.

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<v Speaker 7>Have a good weekend you too, my friend go toppers

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<v Speaker 7>and cats.

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<v Speaker 2>Always fun talking to Gary. Enjoy that every week. And

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<v Speaker 2>I did want to come back to the story about

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<v Speaker 2>the NLI going away. The INSA Division one council and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it works. I keep trying to hammer that

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01:16:59.039 --> 01:17:02.319
<v Speaker 2>into everybody. It's not this one small group of people

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01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:06.560
<v Speaker 2>deciding everything for the NSA. It's the member institutions. They

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<v Speaker 2>nominate and elect people on committees and councils, men and

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<v Speaker 2>women from various universities and colleges. And the council has approved,

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<v Speaker 2>with membership on board, the elimination of the NLI program

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01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:25.840
<v Speaker 2>national Letter of Intent. So that's all with the backdrop

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01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.479
<v Speaker 2>of that lawsuit that is going to allow schools to

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<v Speaker 2>pay athletes as a group more than twenty million dollars annually,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they've got to rethink the amateurism rules. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>that's going away quite frankly. The NLI program started in

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01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:46.479
<v Speaker 2>sixty four to kind of protect the schools from poaching.

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01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:51.000
<v Speaker 2>They were proaching each other's players. A guy would agree

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01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:53.279
<v Speaker 2>to play one school, next thing you know, he's planned

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01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:56.399
<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. And let's face it, they were being bribed oftentimes.

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<v Speaker 2>But now financial aid and scholarship agreement are expected to

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<v Speaker 2>be used. They are not going to entirely ditch the

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01:18:04.199 --> 01:18:07.840
<v Speaker 2>NLI program, though there will be recruiting rules around the

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01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:11.079
<v Speaker 2>program still in place. And you might think right now

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01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 2>there aren't any rules in place, but there are. Why Well,

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<v Speaker 2>because anytime you've got competition, you're going to have people

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<v Speaker 2>who want to cheat. And I can tell you as

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01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:25.319
<v Speaker 2>coaches want structure. They want calendars that are not nearly

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<v Speaker 2>as broad as they are now, so they won't be

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<v Speaker 2>expected to go out on the recruiting trail because everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else is. They want those windows to be shut down

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more. But they want rules they can

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01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.960
<v Speaker 2>all handle. And this is a big step today, So

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye. Will try to keep you up to

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01:18:41.439 --> 01:18:43.680
<v Speaker 2>date on this as well, but it is an historic

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01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:47.359
<v Speaker 2>decision by the NCAA. Thanks to Sean Woods, Chris Doraan

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01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.359
<v Speaker 2>to Gary Moore, thanks to you for listening back again

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01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:51.079
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 8>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night from the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 8>The heroes of the sixties, like the game itself, seem

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01:18:57.520 --> 01:18:59.039
<v Speaker 8>larger than life size.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to me and listen good. This is what we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do.

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<v Speaker 8>We're gonna run the ball, we're gonna pass the ball,

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<v Speaker 8>we're gonna ride down this field and we're gonna score.

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<v Speaker 2>Man say