WEBVTT 1 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:27.559 Wendy Rain my guests Tonight Rain R A, I n E. 2 00:00:27.800 --> 00:00:30.120 You can find her at Wendy Rain everywhere you think 3 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.000 to find her. Wendy, thank you so much for coming 4 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:32.640 on with Midnight. 5 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:34.560 Thank you for asking. 6 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:39.159 Let me start with the basic boring. Everyone's heard this 7 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:43.520 a million times. Question. Talk me through you initially getting 8 00:00:43.560 --> 00:00:46.280 into the industry. When did you decide, Hey, I'm gonna 9 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:49.000 make this jump. Was it a total one eighty for 10 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:51.799 you where you were like working in a corporate office 11 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:54.000 somewhere and then all of a sudden, oh, here's a 12 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:58.079 gang bang? Or was it more of a situation like like, uh, 13 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:00.759 you had always been edging towards this and it was 14 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.519 kind of the last quote unquote stroll and you decided, yeah, 15 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:05.400 I'm going to just do this. 16 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:09.799 Well, so my husband and I had been in the 17 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:16.000 lifestyle for a while, and you know, so we would 18 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:18.359 meet a bunch of people and you know, do a 19 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:24.879 bunch of stuff. And I had encounters where I would 20 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:28.560 record part of it for my husband and send it 21 00:01:28.599 --> 00:01:32.200 to him and messages and stuff. And we met this 22 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:39.840 single girl who did a shoot for Score and she 23 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:42.480 gave them my name and then came to me and said, 24 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:44.480 you really should go. I think you would be really 25 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:47.480 good at this. So I called the contact that she 26 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:52.359 gave me and did the scenes for them, and I 27 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.519 had so much fun. It was a lot of fun. 28 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:59.640 It was I learned, when going through the progression of 29 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:02.280 being more and more comfortable with the lifestyle, that I 30 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.319 was somewhat of an exhibitionist. I enjoyed people watching me 31 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.319 through the glass windows, you know, at the clubs, or 32 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:15.120 standing around the bed, you know, watching which happened once 33 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.120 and I was thoroughly shocked that there's that many guys 34 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:22.560 standing around. But adding the camera and the extra people 35 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:26.280 was really nothing to me because I was so used 36 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:32.120 to having people watching me. So after the scenes came out, 37 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.560 everybody was like, oh my gosh, that's great. You should 38 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:42.120 do some more. And so I ended up getting an agent, okay, 39 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:47.800 and since then, you know, I was with them for 40 00:02:47.840 --> 00:02:50.039 a while, I was independent for a while, and now 41 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.719 I'm with another agency. So it's I've moved across the country, 42 00:02:53.960 --> 00:03:00.280 so it's actually become you know, like a steady thing 43 00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:04.680 now instead of just filling in with my previous job, 44 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:06.520 I was like, Oh, I have to work that day. 45 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.000 Can we make it this day, or I would have 46 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.159 to change my days off to be able to make 47 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:16.520 a shoot. So it's become like the whole entire thing. 48 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:20.319 Now i've interviewed, she's actually become a friend of mine. 49 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.479 Her name is Kat Karma Orgasmic, and she is an 50 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.479 independent creator. She's done just a small handful of mainstream 51 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:31.599 scenes and it's a very specific niche. But my favorite 52 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:34.360 thing that I ever heard was when she was it 53 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:38.080 reminded me of what you said right there. She realized 54 00:03:38.199 --> 00:03:41.639 her and her partner at the time were leaving money 55 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.199 on the table by going to work at their day 56 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.639 jobs and not just staying home and editing stuff, and 57 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:50.000 that must be you said in there. You were like, oh, 58 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.919 and then it became a thing. Did it feel like 59 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:56.479 it became a career. Did it feel like it became 60 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.639 money wise it was at the level needed it to 61 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:03.280 be or did it just feel right emotionally And you 62 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.639 were like, I think the money will follow. 63 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:11.879 Well, there's a little bit more to that answer. So 64 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:19.040 I it took me from my first shoot. It took 65 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:22.319 me about a year and a half to actually make 66 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:26.839 a only fans because I am not one of those 67 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:28.720 people that have my phone with me all the way, 68 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:32.720 all the time. I have to remember to, you know, 69 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:35.839 take a photo set. Still to this day, I'm like, crap, 70 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:38.560 I gotta take pictures of myself, you know. Oh wait, 71 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.920 this will be a great content moment. I don't think 72 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.160 like that, and I'm trying really hard to change that. 73 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:50.600 So basically, it was more about getting the more mainstream 74 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:56.600 shoots than doing only fans or content for any VIDs 75 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:03.839 or whatever. And I realiz that, yeah, there was more 76 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:09.040 money to be made having those sites. And so for 77 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:13.560 the past I think I've had it now for two 78 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:17.079 and a half three years. My only fans, I don't know, 79 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:25.279 but I have gotten better. Okay, I gotta go do this. 80 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:29.199 I gotta take this day because I'm not doing anything 81 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:33.480 and make content like after I'm done with you. Because 82 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:37.040 I'm in a hotel room, I'm going to take pictures 83 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.639 because it's a different environment, it's a different set, it's 84 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:42.439 a different you know, and so it'll be different than 85 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.720 my Wendy room at home. And so I have it 86 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:46.360 all planned out. 87 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.600 So now can you remember here's a question about that, right, 88 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:52.079 because that's a great thing. You're going to do a 89 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.160 bunch of photos and this and that do you have 90 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:59.519 multiple outfits death because it's a different setting and maybe 91 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:03.040 people would know like it just happened now, but maybe 92 00:06:03.040 --> 00:06:05.959 you could, you know, do do a different outfit? And 93 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.079 then what do you do? Stash it for like a month? 94 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:11.360 Right you do? Oh the hotel rooms, you know, March whenever, 95 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:14.560 blah blah blah, uh oh, June rolls around same hotel room. 96 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:16.720 They don't realize that because you're wearing something green now 97 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:21.319 And whatever is it about stacking? Like how many things 98 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.600 you could do based on I would look at it 99 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:26.800 from the outside. Again, no one wants to pay for anything. 100 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:29.079 I'd ever be a part of nude. That's just how 101 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.759 it is. I've understood that since I was about, I 102 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.279 don't know, nineteen years old. But but what I will 103 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.959 say is there seems to be a way of being 104 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:40.639 able to stack that type of stuff where you're not 105 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.279 tricking anyone. You're giving them the same content you would 106 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.639 have given them. But like you know, hey, don't look 107 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.319 in the background because that's the same thing you saw 108 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:49.040 a month ago, And don't look in the background because 109 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:50.439 that's the same thing you saw two months ago. 110 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:53.519 Well that's one of the reasons why I do the 111 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.360 majority of it in my Wendy room because it's all 112 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:01.279 the same, gotcha, So my like, I don't know if 113 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:05.480 you follow me on X, but I do these Wendy's 114 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:08.319 fun Facts Monday through Friday. I put out a little 115 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.839 video about it used to be National Day. Hey, you 116 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.879 know what today is? It's National muffin Day? 117 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:16.399 You know. 118 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.839 Then I changed it to fun Facts, and now it's 119 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:22.319 weird state laws. But I wear the exact same tank top. 120 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.319 The only thing that might be different is maybe I 121 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.879 don't have makeup on, maybe my hair's up, maybe this 122 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:31.000 or that. And I film like thirty of them all 123 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:31.519 at once. 124 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:32.279 There you go. 125 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.759 You know, when you go to do content with somebody, 126 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.040 you think of a bunch of different ways you can 127 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:41.040 get the most content out of that short period of 128 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:44.680 time you're with them. You know. So I released a 129 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:50.720 threesome with two guys a few weeks ago, and I 130 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.120 have more content to release with them individually, you know, 131 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.399 So we kind of did that, and and so it's 132 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.000 you look for ways to maximize the output of what 133 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:03.839 you get when you have a short period of time 134 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:07.120 with somebody, or like in a different setting like this, 135 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.040 and so yeah, I do have. I have different lingerie outfits, 136 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:15.959 you know. I have some toys that I can do 137 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:20.160 little videos with and change it up. There's a lounger 138 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.120 chair of puch thing right there. I walked in and 139 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.160 I was like, Oh, that is going to be hot. 140 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.120 And then there's this view of whatever that is. I 141 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.799 don't know. It's like mountains in the ocean. But I 142 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.080 could stand up in front of it and people might 143 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:36.919 think I'm on a cliff. 144 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:42.639 I don't don't jump, Wendy, don't jump jump. I don't know. 145 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:45.720 The wind's blowing through my hair and it's so pretty. 146 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.960 But yeah, so you do you you maximize that, and 147 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.879 then you have all of that and you kind of 148 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:57.240 put it out there sporadically, like, you know, you take 149 00:08:57.679 --> 00:08:59.600 a couple of pictures from this shoot and a couple 150 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.039 of pictures from this day, and then maybe a screenshot 151 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.519 of that, and that's this week's content. 152 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:08.759 When you decided, Hey, I am going to get into porn, 153 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.679 did you realize that only five percent of it would 154 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.799 be having sex and the rest of it was social 155 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.799 media and schedule building and photography and this and that. 156 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.919 None of them. Do I get it? I couldn't imagine. 157 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.879 I thought that I was just gonna be, you know, 158 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:28.039 just shooting for the mainstream. And then I started making 159 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:32.279 the little home videos. And when I started my only fans, 160 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:35.120 I had no content. I was like, I don't have 161 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.159 anything to sell to anybody. I don't have anything to 162 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.639 put up there. Why would anybody subscribe to my page 163 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.320 when I have nothing? And so I started taking all 164 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:47.000 those little videos right that I made for my husband 165 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.480 because I saved them, thank god I did, because it 166 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.919 ended up I would put five or six together. I'd 167 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.919 have twenty minutes just little clips of me that had 168 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:58.840 in sex and that would go out once a week 169 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:02.639 and then a eventually I was able to start and 170 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.600 get some more people to do content with. But the editing, 171 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:14.559 the social media, I'm thank god, I just concentrate on X. 172 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:17.639 I do have an Instagram that I know I need 173 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:23.080 to be on more. But you know, so it's taken 174 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.360 me this long to get this good at what I'm 175 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:29.000 doing now, so right, but yeah, there's so much more. 176 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:37.039 And I've tried editing my own videos and that's so funny, hilarious. 177 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.759 Oh so maybe not the best editor, that's fine, But 178 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.039 do you have a guy that does that do you 179 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:46.440 have does your husband do that or your partner do that? 180 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:52.000 Or I have been extremely lucky that the people that 181 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:57.480 I have done content with either do it themselves or 182 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.440 have somebody that does it. And I always for to 183 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.080 give them some money. I don't know how to edit. 184 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:06.600 You're going to edit the video? Can I give you 185 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:09.080 some money to help with that cost if you send 186 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.559 it out, or pay for your time to do it 187 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.759 for me, whatever it is. And so I've been very 188 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:19.720 lucky in that aspect that these people know what they're doing, 189 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:24.840 because I think I've edited two of my videos that 190 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.679 I've released early on in my career, and it's just laughable. 191 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:34.440 It is. It's I had no idea what I was doing, 192 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.080 but I did a picture and picture and I was like, 193 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:46.759 so proud of myself with a title, and you know. 194 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.519 That, I love how excited you are about it. Though. 195 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.159 It feels good to accomplish something, even if you look 196 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.120 back at it and you go, well, that doghouse is 197 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:54.320 falling down right now, but I built it at one 198 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.759 point and it looks good. You know, you want to 199 00:11:56.799 --> 00:11:57.120 feel that. 200 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.080 I do my cake reviews and I do you know, 201 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.799 I introduced my cakes and then I show a picture 202 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.000 and I do a little video afterwards, and I put 203 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.080 it up on video pad and just clip the two 204 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.879 together and it's done. I don't do any other editing, 205 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:14.799 and that's about the extent of it. I've messed around 206 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:16.840 a little bit, so I did you know the titles 207 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:23.279 and things like that, But think, think thankfully these guys 208 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.039 and girls that I've done content but know what they're doing. 209 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.440 I Uh, when I interview new girls, girls just breaking 210 00:12:30.480 --> 00:12:32.840 into the industry, just trying to get in, that's I 211 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.200 do that along with mainstream girls. And it's just kind 212 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:37.559 of a nice contrast between the two. And so many 213 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:41.039 times i'm I'm I was, you know, I'd be promoting 214 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.320 their thing. I'd be like, hey, people want to go 215 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:45.720 check out your whatever, your only fans, You're this, you're that, 216 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.080 And you check the only fans and like they have 217 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:51.399 three pictures and like one six second video up there. 218 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:53.639 And it's like you said at the beginning, like I 219 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.639 don't have anything up here. Who wants to sign up 220 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:59.799 for this? Just the bare minimum? Get two hundred pictures 221 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:01.679 on there. They could be from the same time you 222 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.200 stepped out of the shower and you clipped them. At 223 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.480 least you have two hundred pictures on there for people 224 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:10.120 to go through. Yeah, a few videos up there. Not you. 225 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:12.960 I'm just saying in general, like, definitely like you. You 226 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.519 want to build even if you're not the best at 227 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.720 doing the things you do, you want to build some Yeah. Yeah, Hey, 228 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.399 this show you're on is only subpar? Uh want to 229 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:28.679 you want to be able to offer some form of 230 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.600 a library, even if it's not the greatest live. There's 231 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:33.759 no giant gang bangs on this, there's no this that, 232 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:37.720 but there is the person you're trying to follow. You know, 233 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.200 you said, Wendy, you said you were you were in 234 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.759 the lifestyle, right, so it's the swinger lifestyle. I've had 235 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.320 nothing but interviews this week of all people who were like, 236 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.000 I got into the industry after I was swinging this 237 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.159 and that that I've had yet to there's yet to 238 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:53.120 be in a twenty two year old girl who's been 239 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:55.159 like I had to pay for college. All of them 240 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.919 were like, swinging the lifestyle. Tell me about the lifestyle 241 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:01.919 to you. Did you get in when you were very young? 242 00:14:02.039 --> 00:14:04.039 Did you only get in in the last X amount 243 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:08.080 of years? Was it were you pulled into it or 244 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:10.720 did you kind of just naturally move into it based 245 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.759 on your personality and what was your personality like before 246 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:19.159 you got into the lifestyle? Wow? Yeah, people say my 247 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:22.559 questions are too long. They say, shut up, let them talk. Okay, 248 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:23.039 there we go. 249 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:28.360 I got it. So twenty eighteen is when we first 250 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:33.600 started doing lifestyle things. So my husband and I I've 251 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:39.600 been together actually for thirty years, and so it's been 252 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:45.679 rather recent in our relationship. And I think that if 253 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.679 I was younger when we first got together, if this 254 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.080 was the subject was approached, I would have been like, 255 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.919 fuck you, no way, uh huh, absolutely not. You know, 256 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:03.000 over the years, you you become more mature. And I 257 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:09.360 think that the stability part of our relationship really really 258 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:15.279 helped the transition into that. It was brought up sporadically 259 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:21.759 throughout the beginning, and I'm just like, no, no, what 260 00:15:21.799 --> 00:15:24.440 are you doing? No, I don't want to fuck anybody else. 261 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:28.320 Why would I want to do that. So we actually 262 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:30.840 started out really really slow, you know, when we had 263 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:34.360 all these rules and we could only do this and 264 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.759 we could only do that, and it was together and whatever. 265 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:44.840 And then gradually, over I would say a year, two years, 266 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:50.320 you know, those rules start loosening up, and you're able 267 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:58.279 to start to be yourself with other people. And I 268 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:02.440 think that it actually and I believe my husband would 269 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:05.679 agree that I am a different person now than I 270 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:10.600 was before because I've learned so much about my body, 271 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:19.840 doing the lifestyle, doing porn. You know. It's I've learned 272 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:23.240 so much about what I like, what I really really like, 273 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:27.039 and what I really really dislike. You know, so because 274 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.600 everybody has different techniques and different ways doing things, and 275 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:34.759 if you only know one for an extended period of time, 276 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.799 that's really all you know. And being with somebody for 277 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:42.320 as long as I have it's a phenomenal feat because 278 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:45.639 people don't aren't usually that together for that long. But also, 279 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:51.480 you know, the variety that we have now, the level 280 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:57.519 of trust has increased, and it's made our relationship better. 281 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:03.159 To be honest, he really enjoys seeing me being pleased. 282 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:10.559 It pleases him that I'm pleased. So compersion, that's the word. 283 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:12.880 I don't know that word. What the fuck does that 284 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:13.440 word mean? 285 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:18.759 Compersion? Compersion I don't know the exact definition, but I'll 286 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:23.119 sum it up for you. Is when like he gets 287 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.359 satisfaction out of watching me being. 288 00:17:25.200 --> 00:17:30.519 Satisfied, Whndy's fun Fact of the Day compersion the way 289 00:17:30.599 --> 00:17:34.759 Wendy's Dictionary of the Day Dictionary of the Day. Yeah, yeah, 290 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.720 I have never heard that before. That is very interesting. 291 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.119 Yeah, it's like it's a it's a term used in 292 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:46.519 in the lifestyle and and so you know, everybody is like, well, 293 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:48.680 you cock your husband, and I'm like, no, I don't 294 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:51.279 cook my husband. I don't humiliate him. I don't make 295 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.400 him sit in the corner. I don't, you know, insult 296 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:58.519 him while somebody else is fucking me. I'm the hot 297 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.759 wife fix and type where he enjoys watching me be satisfied. 298 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:08.240 So that is another really interesting point because cook has 299 00:18:08.319 --> 00:18:11.400 become just the great term to throw out on anything 300 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:13.920 you want to do to insult somebody, regardless of what 301 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:14.640 it pertains to. 302 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:15.559 Yeah. 303 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:19.079 Right, there are people who are in the swinger lifestyle 304 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.680 who are cuckolds and they enjoy that. That's what they like, 305 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.039 is my view, and I say this on every episode. 306 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:27.680 I don't care what anyone does behind closed doors as 307 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.079 long as there's no kids or dogs in the room, like, 308 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:32.599 you know, get them out and then do whatever you want. 309 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.720 That's your choice. So your husband is not necessarily a cuck. 310 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.279 Then he doesn't enjoy any of that aspect of it, 311 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:39.640 the humiliation. 312 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.240 Part he is not. He is not a cook. I 313 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:45.839 have fans who who you know, want me to do 314 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:49.599 that to cook them, which is perfectly fine. But I 315 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.640 do not do that to him. I can't. I am 316 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:56.400 not the type of person who throws insults around behind 317 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.640 closed doors by ourselves. I'm not going to do that 318 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:01.880 in front of people as well, you know. So it's 319 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.599 I don't know, I'm too nice of it personally. 320 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.599 No, I totally I get. 321 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:10.319 I get if you pay me, I can be really 322 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:15.000 really mean. Yeah. 323 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:17.799 I just always find that aspect interesting because there are 324 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.319 definitely because on the outside, if I'm just a vanilla 325 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:22.960 don't know anything, I've been on Twitter for a week 326 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:25.240 and I see the word cuck and whatever. I hear this, 327 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:28.519 and I go, oh, Wendy's husband likes to be like 328 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:31.119 humiliated and this and that. And that's when people don't 329 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:34.799 understand there are like different psychologies and different aspects to 330 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:37.240 so much of human sexuality. 331 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:40.119 Right it's all the fetishes, yes. 332 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.880 Right now, let me ask if you were in a 333 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:44.400 situation where you were with a guy and your husband 334 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:47.440 was there? Is it? I always I always worry about 335 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:50.400 saying husband, right, we are using that term, not seeing partner, 336 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:54.079 not this, not okay, all right husband, your husband's there. 337 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:58.480 What if the guy was dirty talking kind of and 338 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:01.759 then I'm fu better than your husband? Hunt do you 339 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.559 just stop that? Does it like? Or do you glance 340 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.759 at your husband and be like this motherfucker over here 341 00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:10.160 thinks like, how would you approach a situation where if 342 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:14.839 you're in the middle of something and it's going away again, 343 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.839 not anything non consensual and nothing like that, but just 344 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:19.279 going a negative way. 345 00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:26.519 Well, in that aspect, he likes to see me pleased. 346 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.799 So I would play along with that to a point. 347 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:31.119 Sure, you know. 348 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:35.000 So I'd be like, oh, yeah, baby, you know you're 349 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.240 doing great, you're doing much better. Yeah, you're fucking me right, 350 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:42.359 whatever it is that he's saying. But if he crosses 351 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:49.359 that line of insulting, then then I would be like, 352 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.480 oh no, you know, I would try to steer the 353 00:20:53.480 --> 00:21:00.240 conversation back, steer the dirty talk back to some a 354 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:01.559 little less insulting here. 355 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:05.599 Sure, well, because my concern if I was the woman 356 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.680 in that scenario, which I always picture myself as, would 357 00:21:08.680 --> 00:21:11.160 be like I'm just kidding. Uh, I don't want to 358 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:15.599 kill the mood here. Yeah, sometimes I just buffalo billid 359 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:19.279 and kind of you know, tuck and whatever. Uh silence 360 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:22.359 of the Lambs reference, folks, I wouldn't want to kill 361 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.000 the mood if I were you, If if I were 362 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:29.279 you in that scenario, But the mood is being killed 363 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.519 for you as well, because you don't like the insults 364 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:33.599 or this, and that. 365 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:40.319 I apologize and to be honest, the first time meeting 366 00:21:40.480 --> 00:21:46.519 like a single guy, they're usually very very respectful, especially 367 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.759 to my husband. He's a big guy. He's you walk 368 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:52.519 into a room and you're like, whoa. You know, he 369 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.559 can be he has that intimidating look. He's you know, 370 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:04.759 he's tall and muscular, and so they're usually very very 371 00:22:04.839 --> 00:22:08.680 respectful in the beginning, you know, and then if it 372 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:18.519 becomes a returning guy, then we can discuss limits like that, 373 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:21.400 you know. But I don't think that. I don't think 374 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:26.000 I've ever had a first time or be disrespectful in 375 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.960 that regard because they don't know, gotcha. And I think 376 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:32.720 if that had happened on the first time, I think 377 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:34.200 I wouldn't have asked them back anyway. 378 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:38.599 Sure makes sense. You said, like a lot of people 379 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:41.240 in the lifestyle would start it with rules and regulations 380 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.480 and guardrails and this, and that everything was a nice 381 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:45.799 grid system. I assume you don't go down sixth Street, 382 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:50.279 but seventh is fine. When was the first time that 383 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:57.519 a rule was either broken or loosened or told, Hey, Wendy, 384 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:02.519 you think I know you're out of town. This girl's here. 385 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.480 I know we normally do things together, but she's really interesting. 386 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.640 Is there any chance When was the first time when 387 00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:11.079 you were whether it was you or whether it was him, 388 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:13.519 when you both were like, let's loosen this and see 389 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:15.599 how it feels, and then you decide it. Yeah, it 390 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:16.720 feels right, feels good. 391 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:23.519 Well from the very beginning, you know, you have this 392 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:28.680 list of rules, and two weeks down the road, one 393 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:31.039 of them can be crossed off. You know, like, I 394 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:32.799 don't think we need to do this anymore. I don't 395 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:34.559 think we need to do this anymore. But I think 396 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:38.079 that one of the bigger rules that we had was 397 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:43.319 we would only let single guys in our relationship when 398 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.079 we were out of town, when we were on vacation, 399 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:47.880 like we would go to Jamaica or we would go 400 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:52.839 to Mexico or Vegas or something like that. And that's 401 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.640