1 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,559 Speaker 1: Wendy Rain my guests Tonight Rain R A, I n E. 2 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,120 You can find her at Wendy Rain everywhere you think 3 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,000 to find her. Wendy, thank you so much for coming 4 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:32,640 on with Midnight. 5 00:00:33,399 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for asking. 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: Let me start with the basic boring. Everyone's heard this 7 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,520 a million times. Question. Talk me through you initially getting 8 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,280 into the industry. When did you decide, Hey, I'm gonna 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,000 make this jump. Was it a total one eighty for 10 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,799 you where you were like working in a corporate office 11 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:54,000 somewhere and then all of a sudden, oh, here's a 12 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:58,079 gang bang? Or was it more of a situation like like, uh, 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,759 you had always been edging towards this and it was 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,519 kind of the last quote unquote stroll and you decided, yeah, 15 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:05,400 I'm going to just do this. 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,799 Speaker 2: Well, so my husband and I had been in the 17 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:16,000 lifestyle for a while, and you know, so we would 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,359 meet a bunch of people and you know, do a 19 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:24,879 bunch of stuff. And I had encounters where I would 20 00:01:24,879 --> 00:01:28,560 record part of it for my husband and send it 21 00:01:28,599 --> 00:01:32,200 to him and messages and stuff. And we met this 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:39,840 single girl who did a shoot for Score and she 23 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,480 gave them my name and then came to me and said, 24 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:44,480 you really should go. I think you would be really 25 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,480 good at this. So I called the contact that she 26 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,359 gave me and did the scenes for them, and I 27 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,519 had so much fun. It was a lot of fun. 28 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:59,640 It was I learned, when going through the progression of 29 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,280 being more and more comfortable with the lifestyle, that I 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,319 was somewhat of an exhibitionist. I enjoyed people watching me 31 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:10,319 through the glass windows, you know, at the clubs, or 32 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,120 standing around the bed, you know, watching which happened once 33 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:18,120 and I was thoroughly shocked that there's that many guys 34 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:22,560 standing around. But adding the camera and the extra people 35 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:26,280 was really nothing to me because I was so used 36 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:32,120 to having people watching me. So after the scenes came out, 37 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,560 everybody was like, oh my gosh, that's great. You should 38 00:02:36,599 --> 00:02:42,120 do some more. And so I ended up getting an agent, okay, 39 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,800 and since then, you know, I was with them for 40 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,039 a while, I was independent for a while, and now 41 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:53,719 I'm with another agency. So it's I've moved across the country, 42 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:00,280 so it's actually become you know, like a steady thing 43 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,680 now instead of just filling in with my previous job, 44 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,520 I was like, Oh, I have to work that day. 45 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,000 Can we make it this day, or I would have 46 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,159 to change my days off to be able to make 47 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:16,520 a shoot. So it's become like the whole entire thing. 48 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,319 Speaker 1: Now i've interviewed, she's actually become a friend of mine. 49 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,479 Her name is Kat Karma Orgasmic, and she is an 50 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,479 independent creator. She's done just a small handful of mainstream 51 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,599 scenes and it's a very specific niche. But my favorite 52 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,360 thing that I ever heard was when she was it 53 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,080 reminded me of what you said right there. She realized 54 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:41,639 her and her partner at the time were leaving money 55 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,199 on the table by going to work at their day 56 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,639 jobs and not just staying home and editing stuff, and 57 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:50,000 that must be you said in there. You were like, oh, 58 00:03:50,039 --> 00:03:52,919 and then it became a thing. Did it feel like 59 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,479 it became a career. Did it feel like it became 60 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,639 money wise it was at the level needed it to 61 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,280 be or did it just feel right emotionally And you 62 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:05,639 were like, I think the money will follow. 63 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,879 Speaker 2: Well, there's a little bit more to that answer. So 64 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:19,040 I it took me from my first shoot. It took 65 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,319 me about a year and a half to actually make 66 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,839 a only fans because I am not one of those 67 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:28,720 people that have my phone with me all the way, 68 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,720 all the time. I have to remember to, you know, 69 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,839 take a photo set. Still to this day, I'm like, crap, 70 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,560 I gotta take pictures of myself, you know. Oh wait, 71 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,920 this will be a great content moment. I don't think 72 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,160 like that, and I'm trying really hard to change that. 73 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,600 So basically, it was more about getting the more mainstream 74 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:56,600 shoots than doing only fans or content for any VIDs 75 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:03,839 or whatever. And I realiz that, yeah, there was more 76 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:09,040 money to be made having those sites. And so for 77 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,560 the past I think I've had it now for two 78 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:17,079 and a half three years. My only fans, I don't know, 79 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:25,279 but I have gotten better. Okay, I gotta go do this. 80 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:29,199 I gotta take this day because I'm not doing anything 81 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:33,480 and make content like after I'm done with you. Because 82 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:37,040 I'm in a hotel room, I'm going to take pictures 83 00:05:37,079 --> 00:05:39,639 because it's a different environment, it's a different set, it's 84 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,439 a different you know, and so it'll be different than 85 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,720 my Wendy room at home. And so I have it 86 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:46,360 all planned out. 87 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: So now can you remember here's a question about that, right, 88 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,079 because that's a great thing. You're going to do a 89 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,160 bunch of photos and this and that do you have 90 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:59,519 multiple outfits death because it's a different setting and maybe 91 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:03,040 people would know like it just happened now, but maybe 92 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,959 you could, you know, do do a different outfit? And 93 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,079 then what do you do? Stash it for like a month? 94 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:11,360 Right you do? Oh the hotel rooms, you know, March whenever, 95 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:14,560 blah blah blah, uh oh, June rolls around same hotel room. 96 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,720 They don't realize that because you're wearing something green now 97 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,319 And whatever is it about stacking? Like how many things 98 00:06:21,319 --> 00:06:24,600 you could do based on I would look at it 99 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:26,800 from the outside. Again, no one wants to pay for anything. 100 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:29,079 I'd ever be a part of nude. That's just how 101 00:06:29,079 --> 00:06:31,759 it is. I've understood that since I was about, I 102 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,279 don't know, nineteen years old. But but what I will 103 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:37,959 say is there seems to be a way of being 104 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,639 able to stack that type of stuff where you're not 105 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,279 tricking anyone. You're giving them the same content you would 106 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:45,639 have given them. But like you know, hey, don't look 107 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:47,319 in the background because that's the same thing you saw 108 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,040 a month ago, And don't look in the background because 109 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,439 that's the same thing you saw two months ago. 110 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,519 Speaker 2: Well that's one of the reasons why I do the 111 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,360 majority of it in my Wendy room because it's all 112 00:06:56,399 --> 00:07:01,279 the same, gotcha, So my like, I don't know if 113 00:07:01,319 --> 00:07:05,480 you follow me on X, but I do these Wendy's 114 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,319 fun Facts Monday through Friday. I put out a little 115 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:12,839 video about it used to be National Day. Hey, you 116 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:15,879 know what today is? It's National muffin Day? 117 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:16,399 Speaker 1: You know. 118 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,839 Speaker 2: Then I changed it to fun Facts, and now it's 119 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,319 weird state laws. But I wear the exact same tank top. 120 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,319 The only thing that might be different is maybe I 121 00:07:25,319 --> 00:07:27,879 don't have makeup on, maybe my hair's up, maybe this 122 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,000 or that. And I film like thirty of them all 123 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:31,519 at once. 124 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:32,279 Speaker 1: There you go. 125 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,759 Speaker 2: You know, when you go to do content with somebody, 126 00:07:35,839 --> 00:07:38,040 you think of a bunch of different ways you can 127 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:41,040 get the most content out of that short period of 128 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,680 time you're with them. You know. So I released a 129 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:50,720 threesome with two guys a few weeks ago, and I 130 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,120 have more content to release with them individually, you know, 131 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,399 So we kind of did that, and and so it's 132 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,000 you look for ways to maximize the output of what 133 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,839 you get when you have a short period of time 134 00:08:04,519 --> 00:08:07,120 with somebody, or like in a different setting like this, 135 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,040 and so yeah, I do have. I have different lingerie outfits, 136 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,959 you know. I have some toys that I can do 137 00:08:16,079 --> 00:08:20,160 little videos with and change it up. There's a lounger 138 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:24,120 chair of puch thing right there. I walked in and 139 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,160 I was like, Oh, that is going to be hot. 140 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:31,120 And then there's this view of whatever that is. I 141 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,799 don't know. It's like mountains in the ocean. But I 142 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,080 could stand up in front of it and people might 143 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,919 think I'm on a cliff. 144 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,639 Speaker 1: I don't don't jump, Wendy, don't jump jump. I don't know. 145 00:08:42,759 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: The wind's blowing through my hair and it's so pretty. 146 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,960 But yeah, so you do you you maximize that, and 147 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,879 then you have all of that and you kind of 148 00:08:52,919 --> 00:08:57,240 put it out there sporadically, like, you know, you take 149 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,600 a couple of pictures from this shoot and a couple 150 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,039 of pictures from this day, and then maybe a screenshot 151 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,519 of that, and that's this week's content. 152 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,759 Speaker 1: When you decided, Hey, I am going to get into porn, 153 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,679 did you realize that only five percent of it would 154 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,799 be having sex and the rest of it was social 155 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,799 media and schedule building and photography and this and that. 156 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,919 None of them. Do I get it? I couldn't imagine. 157 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,879 Speaker 2: I thought that I was just gonna be, you know, 158 00:09:24,159 --> 00:09:28,039 just shooting for the mainstream. And then I started making 159 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,279 the little home videos. And when I started my only fans, 160 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:35,120 I had no content. I was like, I don't have 161 00:09:35,159 --> 00:09:37,159 anything to sell to anybody. I don't have anything to 162 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,639 put up there. Why would anybody subscribe to my page 163 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:43,320 when I have nothing? And so I started taking all 164 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,000 those little videos right that I made for my husband 165 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,480 because I saved them, thank god I did, because it 166 00:09:50,639 --> 00:09:52,919 ended up I would put five or six together. I'd 167 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:55,919 have twenty minutes just little clips of me that had 168 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,840 in sex and that would go out once a week 169 00:09:58,879 --> 00:10:02,639 and then a eventually I was able to start and 170 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,600 get some more people to do content with. But the editing, 171 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:14,559 the social media, I'm thank god, I just concentrate on X. 172 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,639 I do have an Instagram that I know I need 173 00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:23,080 to be on more. But you know, so it's taken 174 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,360 me this long to get this good at what I'm 175 00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:29,000 doing now, so right, but yeah, there's so much more. 176 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:37,039 And I've tried editing my own videos and that's so funny, hilarious. 177 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,759 Speaker 1: Oh so maybe not the best editor, that's fine, But 178 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:44,039 do you have a guy that does that do you 179 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,440 have does your husband do that or your partner do that? 180 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: Or I have been extremely lucky that the people that 181 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,480 I have done content with either do it themselves or 182 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,440 have somebody that does it. And I always for to 183 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,080 give them some money. I don't know how to edit. 184 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,600 You're going to edit the video? Can I give you 185 00:11:06,639 --> 00:11:09,080 some money to help with that cost if you send 186 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,559 it out, or pay for your time to do it 187 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,759 for me, whatever it is. And so I've been very 188 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:19,720 lucky in that aspect that these people know what they're doing, 189 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:24,840 because I think I've edited two of my videos that 190 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,679 I've released early on in my career, and it's just laughable. 191 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,440 It is. It's I had no idea what I was doing, 192 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,080 but I did a picture and picture and I was like, 193 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:46,759 so proud of myself with a title, and you know. 194 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,519 Speaker 1: That, I love how excited you are about it. Though. 195 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,159 It feels good to accomplish something, even if you look 196 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,120 back at it and you go, well, that doghouse is 197 00:11:52,159 --> 00:11:54,320 falling down right now, but I built it at one 198 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,759 point and it looks good. You know, you want to 199 00:11:56,799 --> 00:11:57,120 feel that. 200 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: I do my cake reviews and I do you know, 201 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,799 I introduced my cakes and then I show a picture 202 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,000 and I do a little video afterwards, and I put 203 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,080 it up on video pad and just clip the two 204 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,879 together and it's done. I don't do any other editing, 205 00:12:11,879 --> 00:12:14,799 and that's about the extent of it. I've messed around 206 00:12:14,799 --> 00:12:16,840 a little bit, so I did you know the titles 207 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:23,279 and things like that, But think, think thankfully these guys 208 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,039 and girls that I've done content but know what they're doing. 209 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: I Uh, when I interview new girls, girls just breaking 210 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,840 into the industry, just trying to get in, that's I 211 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,200 do that along with mainstream girls. And it's just kind 212 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,559 of a nice contrast between the two. And so many 213 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:41,039 times i'm I'm I was, you know, I'd be promoting 214 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,320 their thing. I'd be like, hey, people want to go 215 00:12:43,399 --> 00:12:45,720 check out your whatever, your only fans, You're this, you're that, 216 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,080 And you check the only fans and like they have 217 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,399 three pictures and like one six second video up there. 218 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,639 And it's like you said at the beginning, like I 219 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:55,639 don't have anything up here. Who wants to sign up 220 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,799 for this? Just the bare minimum? Get two hundred pictures 221 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,679 on there. They could be from the same time you 222 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:04,200 stepped out of the shower and you clipped them. At 223 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,480 least you have two hundred pictures on there for people 224 00:13:06,519 --> 00:13:10,120 to go through. Yeah, a few videos up there. Not you. 225 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,960 I'm just saying in general, like, definitely like you. You 226 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,519 want to build even if you're not the best at 227 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,720 doing the things you do, you want to build some Yeah. Yeah, Hey, 228 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:24,399 this show you're on is only subpar? Uh want to 229 00:13:25,799 --> 00:13:28,679 you want to be able to offer some form of 230 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,600 a library, even if it's not the greatest live. There's 231 00:13:31,639 --> 00:13:33,759 no giant gang bangs on this, there's no this that, 232 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,720 but there is the person you're trying to follow. You know, 233 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:41,200 you said, Wendy, you said you were you were in 234 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,759 the lifestyle, right, so it's the swinger lifestyle. I've had 235 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,320 nothing but interviews this week of all people who were like, 236 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,000 I got into the industry after I was swinging this 237 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,159 and that that I've had yet to there's yet to 238 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,120 be in a twenty two year old girl who's been 239 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,159 like I had to pay for college. All of them 240 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,919 were like, swinging the lifestyle. Tell me about the lifestyle 241 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,919 to you. Did you get in when you were very young? 242 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:04,039 Did you only get in in the last X amount 243 00:14:04,039 --> 00:14:08,080 of years? Was it were you pulled into it or 244 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,720 did you kind of just naturally move into it based 245 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,759 on your personality and what was your personality like before 246 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:19,159 you got into the lifestyle? Wow? Yeah, people say my 247 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,559 questions are too long. They say, shut up, let them talk. Okay, 248 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:23,039 there we go. 249 00:14:23,159 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: I got it. So twenty eighteen is when we first 250 00:14:28,399 --> 00:14:33,600 started doing lifestyle things. So my husband and I I've 251 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:39,600 been together actually for thirty years, and so it's been 252 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:45,679 rather recent in our relationship. And I think that if 253 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,679 I was younger when we first got together, if this 254 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,080 was the subject was approached, I would have been like, 255 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,919 fuck you, no way, uh huh, absolutely not. You know, 256 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:03,000 over the years, you you become more mature. And I 257 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:09,360 think that the stability part of our relationship really really 258 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:15,279 helped the transition into that. It was brought up sporadically 259 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:21,759 throughout the beginning, and I'm just like, no, no, what 260 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:24,440 are you doing? No, I don't want to fuck anybody else. 261 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,320 Why would I want to do that. So we actually 262 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 started out really really slow, you know, when we had 263 00:15:30,879 --> 00:15:34,360 all these rules and we could only do this and 264 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:37,759 we could only do that, and it was together and whatever. 265 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:44,840 And then gradually, over I would say a year, two years, 266 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:50,320 you know, those rules start loosening up, and you're able 267 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:58,279 to start to be yourself with other people. And I 268 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,440 think that it actually and I believe my husband would 269 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,679 agree that I am a different person now than I 270 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,600 was before because I've learned so much about my body, 271 00:16:14,159 --> 00:16:19,840 doing the lifestyle, doing porn. You know. It's I've learned 272 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,240 so much about what I like, what I really really like, 273 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,039 and what I really really dislike. You know, so because 274 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,600 everybody has different techniques and different ways doing things, and 275 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:34,759 if you only know one for an extended period of time, 276 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:37,799 that's really all you know. And being with somebody for 277 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,320 as long as I have it's a phenomenal feat because 278 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,639 people don't aren't usually that together for that long. But also, 279 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,480 you know, the variety that we have now, the level 280 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:57,519 of trust has increased, and it's made our relationship better. 281 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,159 To be honest, he really enjoys seeing me being pleased. 282 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,559 It pleases him that I'm pleased. So compersion, that's the word. 283 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that word. What the fuck does that 284 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:13,440 word mean? 285 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,759 Speaker 2: Compersion? Compersion I don't know the exact definition, but I'll 286 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:23,119 sum it up for you. Is when like he gets 287 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,359 satisfaction out of watching me being. 288 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,519 Speaker 1: Satisfied, Whndy's fun Fact of the Day compersion the way 289 00:17:30,599 --> 00:17:34,759 Wendy's Dictionary of the Day Dictionary of the Day. Yeah, yeah, 290 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:37,720 I have never heard that before. That is very interesting. 291 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's a it's a term used in 292 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:46,519 in the lifestyle and and so you know, everybody is like, well, 293 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,680 you cock your husband, and I'm like, no, I don't 294 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,279 cook my husband. I don't humiliate him. I don't make 295 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,400 him sit in the corner. I don't, you know, insult 296 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,519 him while somebody else is fucking me. I'm the hot 297 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:03,759 wife fix and type where he enjoys watching me be satisfied. 298 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: So that is another really interesting point because cook has 299 00:18:08,319 --> 00:18:11,400 become just the great term to throw out on anything 300 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,920 you want to do to insult somebody, regardless of what 301 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:14,640 it pertains to. 302 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:15,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. 303 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,079 Speaker 1: Right, there are people who are in the swinger lifestyle 304 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,680 who are cuckolds and they enjoy that. That's what they like, 305 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,039 is my view, and I say this on every episode. 306 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:27,680 I don't care what anyone does behind closed doors as 307 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,079 long as there's no kids or dogs in the room, like, 308 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,599 you know, get them out and then do whatever you want. 309 00:18:32,599 --> 00:18:35,720 That's your choice. So your husband is not necessarily a cuck. 310 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:38,279 Then he doesn't enjoy any of that aspect of it, 311 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,640 the humiliation. 312 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: Part he is not. He is not a cook. I 313 00:18:42,319 --> 00:18:45,839 have fans who who you know, want me to do 314 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,599 that to cook them, which is perfectly fine. But I 315 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,640 do not do that to him. I can't. I am 316 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,400 not the type of person who throws insults around behind 317 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,640 closed doors by ourselves. I'm not going to do that 318 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,880 in front of people as well, you know. So it's 319 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,599 I don't know, I'm too nice of it personally. 320 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,599 Speaker 1: No, I totally I get. 321 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:10,319 Speaker 2: I get if you pay me, I can be really 322 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,000 really mean. Yeah. 323 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:17,799 Speaker 1: I just always find that aspect interesting because there are 324 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,319 definitely because on the outside, if I'm just a vanilla 325 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:22,960 don't know anything, I've been on Twitter for a week 326 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,240 and I see the word cuck and whatever. I hear this, 327 00:19:25,519 --> 00:19:28,519 and I go, oh, Wendy's husband likes to be like 328 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,119 humiliated and this and that. And that's when people don't 329 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,799 understand there are like different psychologies and different aspects to 330 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,240 so much of human sexuality. 331 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: Right it's all the fetishes, yes. 332 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: Right now, let me ask if you were in a 333 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,400 situation where you were with a guy and your husband 334 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,440 was there? Is it? I always I always worry about 335 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,400 saying husband, right, we are using that term, not seeing partner, 336 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:54,079 not this, not okay, all right husband, your husband's there. 337 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,480 What if the guy was dirty talking kind of and 338 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:01,759 then I'm fu better than your husband? Hunt do you 339 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,559 just stop that? Does it like? Or do you glance 340 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:06,759 at your husband and be like this motherfucker over here 341 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:10,160 thinks like, how would you approach a situation where if 342 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,839 you're in the middle of something and it's going away again, 343 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,839 not anything non consensual and nothing like that, but just 344 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,279 going a negative way. 345 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:26,519 Speaker 2: Well, in that aspect, he likes to see me pleased. 346 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,799 So I would play along with that to a point. 347 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: Sure, you know. 348 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: So I'd be like, oh, yeah, baby, you know you're 349 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,240 doing great, you're doing much better. Yeah, you're fucking me right, 350 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,359 whatever it is that he's saying. But if he crosses 351 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:49,359 that line of insulting, then then I would be like, 352 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:53,480 oh no, you know, I would try to steer the 353 00:20:53,480 --> 00:21:00,240 conversation back, steer the dirty talk back to some a 354 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,559 little less insulting here. 355 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,599 Speaker 1: Sure, well, because my concern if I was the woman 356 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,680 in that scenario, which I always picture myself as, would 357 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,160 be like I'm just kidding. Uh, I don't want to 358 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,599 kill the mood here. Yeah, sometimes I just buffalo billid 359 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,279 and kind of you know, tuck and whatever. Uh silence 360 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:22,359 of the Lambs reference, folks, I wouldn't want to kill 361 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,000 the mood if I were you, If if I were 362 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,279 you in that scenario, But the mood is being killed 363 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:32,519 for you as well, because you don't like the insults 364 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:33,599 or this, and that. 365 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:40,319 Speaker 2: I apologize and to be honest, the first time meeting 366 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:46,519 like a single guy, they're usually very very respectful, especially 367 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,759 to my husband. He's a big guy. He's you walk 368 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:52,519 into a room and you're like, whoa. You know, he 369 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:56,559 can be he has that intimidating look. He's you know, 370 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:04,759 he's tall and muscular, and so they're usually very very 371 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:08,680 respectful in the beginning, you know, and then if it 372 00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:18,519 becomes a returning guy, then we can discuss limits like that, 373 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,400 you know. But I don't think that. I don't think 374 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,000 I've ever had a first time or be disrespectful in 375 00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:30,960 that regard because they don't know, gotcha. And I think 376 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,720 if that had happened on the first time, I think 377 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,200 I wouldn't have asked them back anyway. 378 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,599 Speaker 1: Sure makes sense. You said, like a lot of people 379 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,240 in the lifestyle would start it with rules and regulations 380 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480 and guardrails and this, and that everything was a nice 381 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,799 grid system. I assume you don't go down sixth Street, 382 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:50,279 but seventh is fine. When was the first time that 383 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:57,519 a rule was either broken or loosened or told, Hey, Wendy, 384 00:22:57,799 --> 00:23:02,519 you think I know you're out of town. This girl's here. 385 00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:06,480 I know we normally do things together, but she's really interesting. 386 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:08,640 Is there any chance When was the first time when 387 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,079 you were whether it was you or whether it was him, 388 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,519 when you both were like, let's loosen this and see 389 00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:15,599 how it feels, and then you decide it. Yeah, it 390 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:16,720 feels right, feels good. 391 00:23:18,079 --> 00:23:23,519 Speaker 2: Well from the very beginning, you know, you have this 392 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,680 list of rules, and two weeks down the road, one 393 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,039 of them can be crossed off. You know, like, I 394 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:32,799 don't think we need to do this anymore. I don't 395 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:34,559 think we need to do this anymore. But I think 396 00:23:34,599 --> 00:23:38,079 that one of the bigger rules that we had was 397 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,319 we would only let single guys in our relationship when 398 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,079 we were out of town, when we were on vacation, 399 00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:47,880 like we would go to Jamaica or we would go 400 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,839 to Mexico or Vegas or something like that. And that's 401 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,640 the time when we would have a single guy come in. 402 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,920 All the other times was with couples or at a party. 403 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,799 You know, we would go to we would go to 404 00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:06,880 parties and he would go one way and I would 405 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,039 go another way. But it didn't matter if there was 406 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:14,000 a single guy there or not, because we were at 407 00:24:14,039 --> 00:24:21,799 a party. So I that changed about I'm gonna say 408 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,559 a year and a half in to where he was like, 409 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,519 I'm looking for single guys for you. So he he 410 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,839 was the one who would look for me, for a 411 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,400 single guy to try and satisfy me. So he did. 412 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,400 He did, good job. 413 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,759 Speaker 1: And get your whole career out of it. But that 414 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,400 was like. 415 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: A year and a half in and so that rule changed, 416 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,640 you know. And then we would meet them at a hotel. 417 00:24:54,079 --> 00:25:02,119 John would watch blah blah blah. And one day he 418 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:07,640 was like, when the guy gets here, I'm going to 419 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,000 go downstairs and be on the phone. And I was like, 420 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,480 you're gonna leave me. You're alone, You're not going to 421 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,559 watch He's like, no, you're You're fine. This was a regular, 422 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:22,359 a regular guy we had been had been meeting up 423 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,839 with for a few months, and so that was the 424 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:31,519 first time that I was left alone in the hotel room. 425 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:37,160 So and it gradually, you know, the rules started crashing 426 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:44,000 them off from there. So now there's there's there's really 427 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,839 no rules per se. You know, if something comes up, 428 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,559 we discuss it and. 429 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: Go with it or not go with it. Uh what 430 00:25:56,079 --> 00:26:00,640 did you feel when he first left you there? Quote 431 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,119 unquote by yourself? Was it was it a mix of 432 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,839 anxiety and excitement? Was it all excitement? Was it all like, 433 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,680 oh my god, I hope this guy doesn't put a 434 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,200 bag over my head or something like? What? What? What? 435 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Was What was going through your head when when John's 436 00:26:15,519 --> 00:26:16,680 heading downstairs? 437 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:20,599 Speaker 2: Well, I knew the that the guy wasn't going to 438 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,680 put a bag over my head because you know, he 439 00:26:23,759 --> 00:26:28,039 was still kind of intimidated by my husband. But it 440 00:26:28,519 --> 00:26:33,960 was there was a it was like ninety three percent 441 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:39,519 excitement and like seven percent anxiety. Oh my gosh, mostly 442 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:45,559 because I was concerned about how my husband would feel 443 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,920 when I got home when I was done, you know 444 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:56,240 what I mean. So because it was really eye opening 445 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,119 to him, he was like, I want you to let loose, 446 00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:02,240 and I think that you're not letting loose while I'm there, 447 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,640 and I'm like, I don't think I can let loose anymore, 448 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,880 but I'll try, you know. So it ended up being 449 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:16,640 like that, plus my regular guy. We would go for hours, 450 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,640 and as much fun as it is to watch foreorn 451 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,880 or watch somebody doing a live show in front of you, 452 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,720 three four hours gets a little old. Sure, you know, 453 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:33,160 he's like sitting on the phone. 454 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: Like what are you doing? Not even paying attention. But 455 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,359 you know what I mean, it's like. 456 00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: It's exciting, exciting, and then it's really not anymore, you know, 457 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,680 after a certain period of time. 458 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: That's always the watch. 459 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: Not to me, I was always excited. 460 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,519 Speaker 1: I have I have two questions then about that lifestyle, 461 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,960 and I'm actually forgetting the first one as I did it, 462 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,640 because now I'm even asking too many questions in my 463 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:11,279 own head. Was the suggestion to you at first to 464 00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:15,880 bring another guy in? Or was the suggestion we could 465 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,960 bring couples in again? Vanilla outside world, I've had plenty 466 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,039 of friends who floated the idea, Hey, maybe I should 467 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,480 try and open my relationship that way. We can have 468 00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,119 a threesome with another girl. Your intentions are threeesome with 469 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,920 another girl? You don't want the other half of the 470 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,039 opening up the relationship where some dude is opening up 471 00:28:35,039 --> 00:28:38,680 your wife like that's you know, that's not what they want. 472 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,799 Was your entrance into this always your husband recommending another 473 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,519 guy first because that's what he really enjoys. Or was 474 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:47,759 it like both at the same time. 475 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:53,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we had. Now I'm telling something that nobody knews. 476 00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,680 Way back in the beginning of our relationship, we did 477 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:05,279 have threesome with a girl and it was you know, 478 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,160 it was a threesome with a girl. And so I 479 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,240 think that that stemmed the thought process. But also I 480 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:20,720 think he wanted me to to enjoy different aspects of 481 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,519 having sex, and so he would suggest it and and 482 00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,119 he would be like, Hey, my friend has this giant cock. 483 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,079 Do you want to fuck him? And I'm like, no, 484 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,160 what what? 485 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:35,599 Speaker 1: What is this? 486 00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: What are you saying to me right now? You know? 487 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:44,599 And so when we finally when we finally started, it 488 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,880 wasn't just a couple's only, but I think that that 489 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:51,359 was his intention because he wanted to see me and 490 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,559 watch me be satisfied. 491 00:29:55,319 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: So your current lifestyle swinging, are women not involved with 492 00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,599 that anymore? Is it just guys? 493 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,279 Speaker 2: Or no? We do a couple of stuff too. 494 00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,599 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, all right, there. 495 00:30:08,559 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: A single girls sporadically, you know. 496 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,839 Speaker 1: Sure, does he get What do you think gives him 497 00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:20,559 more excitement? Him being with you and another girl, or 498 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,759 him watching you with like a legendary dick, like just 499 00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:28,319 a guy who can really perform, or multiple guys or 500 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:30,200 a whole bunch of guys in that room with that 501 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:32,839 nice ocean background. You talked about. 502 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: My cliff jumping, Well, I would have to say it 503 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:46,559 it was would probably be me being satisfied really by 504 00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:47,440 somebody else. 505 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, people in the outside world just can't understand that 506 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,680 A got We've never been opened my wife and I've 507 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,720 been with my wife for I think seventeen years now, 508 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,079 maybe eighteen going on. Got together when we're in nineteen, 509 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,039 and it just works. It just works. It works great, 510 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:14,319 you know. But I haven't done this in a while. 511 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,200 But I lost my point again. I'm just excited to 512 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,000 talk to you because I find this so interesting. I've 513 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680 been with my wife for so long and I wouldn't 514 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,359 want to introduce anything like that necessarily because I don't 515 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:27,319 think that's our relationship and that's not where it's set 516 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,359 up to be. But the excitement and the joy I 517 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,279 get from having a new toy or doing something new 518 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,559 that she really enjoys and seeing her get excited over that. 519 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,519 I think so many guys out there just either. It 520 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,039 really is an example to me. Look, you don't have 521 00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:45,039 to send your wife to get fucked by a legendary 522 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,920 dick just to feel excitement. But a lot of guys 523 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920 probably don't even really give a shit if their chick 524 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,119 is like having a good time or enjoying this. They 525 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,559 just think, oh, it was satisfied at the end, so 526 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:57,680 we're all good to go. So when they hear this, 527 00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:01,079 they're like, oh, your husband, well he's just you know, 528 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,279 that goes back to the cock thing. Oh he's a 529 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,160 cock's blah blah blah blah. No, he's just getting juice 530 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,440 stopped watching his lady really excited and ray. I mean, 531 00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:14,519 it's so tough to explain to people because from the outside, 532 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,519 use your nineteen year old brain on that one and go, 533 00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:21,440 my husband wants to watch me get fucked by other guys. 534 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,279 Nineteen year old Wendy is going, what the fuck are 535 00:32:24,279 --> 00:32:27,440 you talking about? This is a loving thing too, What 536 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,799 are you talking about exactly? 537 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: And I think you hit the nail on the head 538 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:38,880 right there with the Most guys think that, oh, we're 539 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,240 both satisfied at the end, so it really doesn't matter where. 540 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,720 That's all they think about is getting to the end, 541 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,160 you know where. Quite a few of these guys that 542 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,039 I have met in the lifestyle could care less about 543 00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:57,839 the end part. 544 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,519 Speaker 4: They like the build up, the the actual act of 545 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,359 doing stuff. 546 00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:07,319 Speaker 2: And a lot of the guys in my past were 547 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:09,759 just like, you know, the type of b wham bam, 548 00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:16,000 thank you man. And it's it's taught my husband and 549 00:33:16,039 --> 00:33:21,839 I both different things sexually to please each other, you know, 550 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,079 so it's only made our sex life better by learning 551 00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:34,880 these things from different people. And these other guys, like 552 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,519 I said before, please me in a different way than 553 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,960 my husband does. You know, not everybody has the same cock, 554 00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,920 Not everybody has the same technique fingering a girl or 555 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,519 sucking a cock or kissing or whatever. And so you 556 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,519 learn all these different things and you find out what 557 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:55,720 works for you and works for you and your husband, 558 00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:58,119 because then I go and I try these things out 559 00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:03,440 on him. You know, Like if a guy says, I 560 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,240 like my cock sucks like this, it really gets me going. 561 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,679 I'll go try it out on him, you know, And 562 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:15,079 and so it's it's learning. But I think that the 563 00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,559 the the less secure you are in your relationship, the 564 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:26,440 younger the relationship is, you're more apt to say, excuse me, no, 565 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,559 I'm not gonna go fuck that guy, and you're not 566 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:35,199 going to go fuck that girl. I think that if 567 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:42,840 you are completely completely sexually satisfying each other completely using 568 00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:47,599 everything that you know and read and whatever, maybe you 569 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:55,039 won't need to do that ever. But there's also one 570 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,760 other thing that you said that I agree with. The 571 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,280 excitement is there of something new. Think about when you 572 00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:09,239 first met your wife, you know, or a new girlfriend 573 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,440 or whatever. You get the butterflies in the stomach. You're like, 574 00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,719 oh my gosh, I get to see her today, you know. 575 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,039 And it's that newness, that excitement and newness that you 576 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:25,079 get to experience all the time. Now, not that I'm 577 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:27,880 tired of my husband. I would never get tired of 578 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:33,360 my husband. It's experiencing that newness, you know, with somebody 579 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,280 else and returning to the love of my life, you know. 580 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,039 So it's it's all of that. Like I know, I've 581 00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,440 just rambled on and probably didn't make any sense, but. 582 00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:49,199 Speaker 1: It it made all the sense in the world to me. 583 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,039 I get that. And the thing is again using nineteen 584 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,719 year old and nineteen year old Wendy and Matt brain. 585 00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:01,159 I don't know that we were necessarily comfortable, don't I 586 00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:04,280 can't speak for you, but comfortable maybe in our own selves, 587 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,360 in our own sexuality where we'd be willing and personally. 588 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,519 But as my wife is listening to this episode, I 589 00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:14,920 understand we still are not willing. Wendy is willing to 590 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,679 share yourself and open up yourself. There's It took me 591 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,920 fifteen years to get my wife to do any kind 592 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,280 of dirty talking, only because we are so cynical and 593 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,840 kind of it would be like I'd be like, oh, 594 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,960 you want me to lick on your nipples and she'd 595 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,960 be like, I don't know, do you, And it's just 596 00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:33,960 kind of like that kills the mood, like that's not 597 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480 gonna work. You're gonna have to And I had to 598 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:41,079 establish to her, Oh my gosh, I had to establish 599 00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:44,119 to her. I go, hey, everything here and not not 600 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,199 that I was like, you can't be funny, not at 601 00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:48,719 all that, but I would just make the case, hey, 602 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,639 everything here is between us. I will not judge you 603 00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,559 for anything, anything you want to try, anything, you're interested 604 00:36:55,599 --> 00:36:58,880 in anything you say. I'm not gonna judge you, I'm 605 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,000 not gonna laugh, I'm not gonna or whatever. This is 606 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:02,880 entirely and I hate to say it because I sound 607 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,039 like I'm on a college campus. This is a safe 608 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,519 space right here, This is what this is. 609 00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:08,199 Speaker 2: So. 610 00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know that people who are six 611 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,880 months into a relationship, who are twenty one years old 612 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,039 in college, I don't know that they have that emotional intelligence. 613 00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,719 And that's a broad general example. I'm sure there are 614 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,360 one or two people like that, but I don't know 615 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,559 that they have that to do that at that age. 616 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:30,079 I think it comes with maturity and wisdom. 617 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,679 Speaker 2: Right absolutely, yeah, absolutely, and the emotional intelligence absolutely, you know. 618 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,760 And then you have to be secure with yourself, you know. 619 00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:49,960 I also, being in the lifestyle, have seen that other 620 00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,559 guys find me attractive, which makes me more confident, sure, 621 00:37:55,199 --> 00:37:58,559 which makes me more attractive, and then more guys are attracted, 622 00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,000 you know what I mean. And it's a big circle. 623 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:07,039 So now I have more self confidence and self respect 624 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,840 and self esteem than I did ten years ago. Yeah, 625 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:20,599 because of the lifestyle, and and you know, my husband 626 00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:23,920 has been building me up for years, and you sell 627 00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:26,000 me a lot. When we first met it, I was 628 00:38:26,159 --> 00:38:32,239 I was a mess, but that's that's another story. But 629 00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:37,960 like you, you learn about yourself. And like I said, 630 00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:41,239 I have learned so much about what I like sexually 631 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,079 and what I don't like. And I had no idea before. 632 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 4: I had no idea that that even like existed before. 633 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:55,079 So it's it's it's an interesting path that I have 634 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,000 have been on. 635 00:38:56,639 --> 00:38:59,039 Speaker 1: I have I have some questions about that. But first 636 00:38:59,079 --> 00:39:01,119 I want to do a thing called stat check. So 637 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:04,760 we're going to use the Internet Adult Film Database if 638 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,639 anyone's ever been on IMDb dot com, which is like 639 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,719 the movie database. You can look up every director. There's 640 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,519 actually a porn one too. Now when I say this, Wendy, 641 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,000 every girl, I say, we're going to go over these stats. 642 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,360 I give the stats and they go, those numbers are wrong. 643 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,960 I go, I know, I know, we're just using this 644 00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,920 and what they list as a metric. So that way, 645 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,960 when I have you on a year from now and 646 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,079 you're just drowning in AVN awards and you're giving them 647 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:31,639 away to people as they come to you. Here, heyre 648 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,239 please take a couple of VNS with you. Okay, once 649 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,039 that happens, we can look back and go like, oh 650 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,199 my god, remember when you were only at this. I 651 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,039 understand the numbers are not going to be accurate, but 652 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,880 let's run through them. So the number of scenes they 653 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,480 have you down for is thirty five. The number of 654 00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:53,039 guys you've worked with is thirteen. The number of girls 655 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:58,800 you've worked with is nine. One AVN nomination, no wins yet, 656 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,320 we're working on that. See you do in the face. 657 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,480 I know, I know the numbers are wrong. They don't 658 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,559 count like collaboration scenes with like oh, I'm not even Oh. 659 00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I have books Excel spreadsheet. I've just pulled it 660 00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,559 up right now, and do you Okay? 661 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:16,159 Speaker 1: This is so the Wendy Rank. 662 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 3: Catalog, the Wendy Rank catalog, and I'm not quite sure 663 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,679 when that that website was was updated, but I can 664 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,400 tell you as of today, the professional scenes that I 665 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,440 have done is. 666 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,119 Speaker 1: Uh forty six, Okay, forty you know what forty seven? 667 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, hold on, I'm. 668 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: Gonna write this down, and what we're gonna do is 669 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,239 I will update it on the graphic on the screen 670 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,679 in real time. So number of scenes originally enlisted at 671 00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:50,559 thirty five, you are telling me it is it is 672 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,079 forty seven. We're going to count tomorrows. 673 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, forty seven, tomorrow forty six. Now I am including 674 00:40:58,159 --> 00:40:59,960 the scenes that I was extras in. 675 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: So totally fine. 676 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,760 Speaker 2: You know, maybe maybe they just do sex scenes. But yeah, 677 00:41:07,039 --> 00:41:08,920 And the number of guys you said was. 678 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: Thirteen thirteen listed, yes, five. 679 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 2: Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, 680 00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,119 and tomorrow's nineteen nineteen. 681 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: Okay, do you know how many girls you've worked with? Women? 682 00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Hold on. 683 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: This feels, by the way, this feels like the best 684 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,360 corporate meeting I've ever been in. I love it because yeah, yeah, 685 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,360 I got those numbers for you. Hold on. Uh wait 686 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,679 and counting the gang bang? Are we not counting it that? Yap? 687 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,599 Speaker 2: Ya? Let me ask? Does this include the girls that 688 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:51,639 I did not have sex with? 689 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: It includes whatever number is on your chart? I am 690 00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:57,159 fine with accepting. 691 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: Okay, one, two, three, four, five. 692 00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: By the way, while Wendy's counting at Wendy Rain everywhere, 693 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,079 you expect to find her links in the episode description. 694 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,079 As always, make sure you follow these content creators otherwise 695 00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:17,599 they don't make any more content eleven eleven, Okay, so 696 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:20,559 they were too off on that. Only the one AVN 697 00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:25,039 nomination though, right twenty twenty four, Yeah. 698 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: It was a fan nomination. 699 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:30,079 Speaker 1: Yet hey, I count it. Okay, I have I have 700 00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,440 a fan nomination too, and that is goddamn on every 701 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,599 resume I have. So all right, we. 702 00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,519 Speaker 2: Will fix this nomination as well. 703 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 1: There you go. See, I didn't want to get in 704 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,159 the intricacies of the next awards and flesh Body, so 705 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,280 AVN is just what I stick with. But congratulations on 706 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,159 your Fleshbot Award nomination as well. Let me you said 707 00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:55,880 you figured out the likes and dislikes that you got 708 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,840 into in this industry or what you learned about yourself. 709 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,079 So let me start with this question. I always use 710 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,760 this one. What is a kinker of fetish you really 711 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,800 want to pursue? Meaning if they you've done it before, 712 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,119 probably I'm sure, maybe maybe not, though tell me if 713 00:43:12,159 --> 00:43:14,559 you haven't. What's something that if they came to you 714 00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:16,360 and was like, hey, we want you to shoot the scene, 715 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,199 you would be on the plane the next day like 716 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,320 you'd be like, oh, should I want to shoot? Exactly 717 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,920 that niche that style, or if it's a studio you 718 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,760 want to work for, or if it's a guy you 719 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,800 want to work with, tell me something you are like 720 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,320 chomping at the bit to get to. 721 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,559 Speaker 2: There's a few things I would like to do a 722 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:42,840 gang bang, but more than two guys. I've already been 723 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,800 with two guys, you know, so four or five. Maybe 724 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:54,239 I wouldn't mind doing some type of bondage type of 725 00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:01,519 scene with you know, restraints, maybe forced orgasm, no no 726 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:04,320 slapping my face though, And and and I know that 727 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:11,440 that's a big thing with the like kink dot com. 728 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: And. 729 00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:24,119 Speaker 2: But that I really really really really really really want 730 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:31,440 to be a main character in a feature movie, like 731 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:38,719 like the longer films. I think I can act, and 732 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,920 I would like to to be, you know, be able 733 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,320 to be on set for multiple days and make one 734 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,760 of those movies that they're starting to make again, you know, 735 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,360 maybe not so much high budget like Pirates. 736 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: Pirates was I love Jane? 737 00:44:56,639 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that movie. 738 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,639 And so I know that they're starting to to to 739 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,840 make longer films than just the scenes, right, And so 740 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:18,400 I'd really really like to be like the main person 741 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,719 in that And if they called me next week and said, hey, 742 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,920 we want you as Milf of the Month for June. 743 00:45:27,079 --> 00:45:30,199 I would be all over that as well, you know, 744 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,920 get my name out there, do do some different things 745 00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:38,880 and and fun stuff. I enjoy the role playing, the stepmom, 746 00:45:39,039 --> 00:45:44,400 the the all of that. I've been uh lucky enough 747 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,800 to be in some parodies where I'm actually, you know, uh, 748 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400 the one that's coming out tomorrow, I think, you know, 749 00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:56,440 I'm I'm parroting Meryl Streep come on, you know. And 750 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,679 and there was one I did. I was just an 751 00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:02,239 extra year and a half ago, but I was parroting 752 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,519 Jamie Lee Curtis. You know. So it's like, you know, 753 00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:09,239 I enjoyed doing those types of things. I enjoy doing 754 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:14,039 the comedies and then the serious stuff. Mostly I yell 755 00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:14,719 at my steps on. 756 00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,199 Speaker 1: Normally I'm stuck in a washing machine and then some 757 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,039 guy has to come get me out with his dick. 758 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 2: They come up behind me, They're like, oh, you know what, 759 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,599 I've never been stuck in a washing machine. 760 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,119 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so that's goals. I mean, vibes and goals, folks, 761 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,920 Washington machines stuck. I let me ask, how what is 762 00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:43,800 what is being an extra on a porn set. Do 763 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,360 you said you've done extra work on it before? What 764 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,679 does that mean? Are you? Are you naked at all? 765 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,559 Are you go ahead? Talk me through it. 766 00:46:54,559 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 2: So the first time I encountered being in a movie 767 00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:03,840 where I didn't actually take off all my clothes and 768 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,400 had sex, I was basically a sextra where I gave 769 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,039 a blowjob. 770 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,559 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, I. 771 00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 2: Was being an extra on a lot of the sets. 772 00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:22,440 Mostly I was like, there was one time I was 773 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:29,000 a step mom and I through my daughter her first 774 00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:33,599 gang bang for her eighteenth birthday, I know, with her 775 00:47:33,639 --> 00:47:39,559 stepdad and her step cousins and her step brother, and 776 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,199 I sat there during the whole entire thing, cheering them on. 777 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,119 I had so much fun. I was like the only 778 00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:54,400 one clothed. Everybody else was naked, and I'm like, you 779 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,559 gotta make her comb come on and make her come 780 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,559 have on orgasm, and you know, and we bring out 781 00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:01,480 this toy and I'm like holding the toy on her, 782 00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:07,079 you know, and yeah, and then let's see, there was 783 00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,800 another time where. 784 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: Uh, sorry, I'm looking up the scene right now, you're 785 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,920 with Madison Wild. Yeah, there you go. Okay, Okay, all right, 786 00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,159 I got something to watch later, folks. So and there you. 787 00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 2: Go, there you go. And uh, when I was Jamie 788 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,000 Lee Curtis, I was an extra. A lot of these 789 00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:37,960 are for Team SKI. And then I was the step 790 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,760 mom who didn't want to introduce her her stepdaughter to 791 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,119 her to my brother, her step uncle. Well that went. 792 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,960 And then the only time that I was the only 793 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,880 time I was naked as an extra is I was 794 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,360 on the parody of Punk and it was called porn 795 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,119 Horned p O R. And Katie I can't say. I 796 00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,360 couldn't say that on set, and I still can't say 797 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,159 to that day. But I was the host of the 798 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:10,039 game show. And the game show was I brought my 799 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,920 coworker from my office. I invited him over to like 800 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,000 a team building exercise at my house or whatever. Well, 801 00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:22,679 he had never been with a porn star before, and 802 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,400 so this was his like, surprise, surprise, here's your porn 803 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,440 star that you can be with. And so I introduced 804 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,000 them and they did their thing, and then at the end, 805 00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:37,519 I come out naked and hold up a shirt say, oh, 806 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,840 you've been porns you know. And and but that's so 807 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,280 much fun, so much fun. And this last week I 808 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,679 was actually an FBI agent in one of those feature 809 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,880 movies that I said that I wanted to be a 810 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,159 main character. And so that was a lot of fun, 811 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,000 a lot of fun. 812 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: And what is a pink or fetish that you you said, 813 00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:08,239 you said the the like the rough bondage. I always 814 00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:12,440 I always differentiate between rough and violent. There is violent 815 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,000 porn out there, and there's a lot of girls that 816 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,719 like violent porn. Not a lot. There's a few girls 817 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,760 that really like violent porn. None of that in bondage 818 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,960 isn't necessarily my thing, but I understand its huge and 819 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,079 as accept it. So you already said no interest in 820 00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:29,519 that type of stuff like slapped in the face or 821 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:32,320 this and that. What is another kink or fetish that 822 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,920 you just have like no interest in pursuing. Like if 823 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,800 someone were like, I'm sorry, go ahead, water play piss? 824 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,840 Are we talking piss there? Okay? Just no interest? How 825 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,599 about you? Pissing on a guy doesn't do anything for you. 826 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,519 Speaker 2: I get requests to pee on camera and like for 827 00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:58,119 for little customs and stuff, and I really most of them. 828 00:50:58,199 --> 00:51:00,480 I turn down some of them. I'll say, okay, and 829 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:01,960 it's going to cost you an arm and a leg 830 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,119 because I don't do this. Sure, I'm not quite sure 831 00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:08,440 what my turn off is about it, even though they'll 832 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,519 pay an arm and a lang leg for a twenty 833 00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:16,719 second video, I just don't And I don't know if 834 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,320 I could pee on somebody, Okay, unless maybe they were 835 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:21,280 stung by a jellyfish. 836 00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:25,800 Speaker 1: Sure, fair enough. Oh my god, you better watch Team Skeiths. 837 00:51:26,039 --> 00:51:32,840 We have a jellyfishine for you next week, exactly this 838 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480 flew by. Let me ask you the last question. 839 00:51:35,519 --> 00:51:37,199 Speaker 2: What do you think it's the end? 840 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, at Wendy Rain, you know where you can 841 00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:42,679 find her link in the episode of description. But I 842 00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:44,639 have a question for you here. What's the end of game? 843 00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:48,320 Are you just having fun? While you're having fun? Is 844 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,000 there a monetary amount? Do you want to reach a 845 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:54,360 level of legacy in this industry? Do you want to 846 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,440 be shooting when you're eighty three years old? Guilf Wendy Rain, Like, 847 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,519 what are what are your future plans? 848 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,199 Speaker 2: So I would I would actually like to stay in 849 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,360 it for as long as people will will like me. 850 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,400 I mean, I have people commenting on some of my 851 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,480 stuff now saying saying I'm too old, and and then 852 00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,000 I get my real fans sticking up for me, saying, 853 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,880 go fuck yourself. I don't think I'm too old. I 854 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,199 would like to reach a level of popularity to where 855 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,000 my name is out there, my name is well known 856 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,760 that that I can shoot with with all the big companies. 857 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,920 I'd like to do mainstream for as long as I can, 858 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,039 as long as they'll have me. I work out very hard. 859 00:52:48,079 --> 00:52:51,320 I try very hard to stay competing with the younger 860 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:59,599 MILFs and the endgame. I don't know if I have 861 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,280 one in my head. There's not a monetary thing. I mean, 862 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,800 I would like to make money, since this is what 863 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,199 I'm doing now, you know, and it's what I've been 864 00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:10,480 doing for a year and a half. 865 00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,199 Speaker 1: I think the. 866 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:19,280 Speaker 2: Only thing, the only thing, but I think that that 867 00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:22,519 the legacy that I'm going to leave is that you 868 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:24,400 know I have good boobs. 869 00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 1: I have to be honest, and it's I hope you 870 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,480 don't take this as an insult, because I'm going to 871 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,760 So I went and I was I was looking through 872 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,719 a couple of year scenes earlier today just to get 873 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,599 a sense of like, Okay, this is how she shoots 874 00:53:37,639 --> 00:53:39,880 this and that and one scene shot with the top 875 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,320 of your head, and I was like oh, she has 876 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,880 a very pretty face. And again I had seen your age, 877 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,559 had done research, and I went, she probably has a 878 00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:50,679 nice mom body. As we're panning down and we got down, 879 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,679 and I'm like, holy shit, Wendy works out. Huh, you 880 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,159 don't have a mom body. Yeah, you look phenomenal. 881 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,559 Speaker 2: I don't have a mom body and I'm not a mom. 882 00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: Sure, okay, sure, yeah, But you know that's a really 883 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,119 weird relative term. In this industry. There's twenty six year 884 00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:12,119 olds that get cast in milk scenes. So oh, I know. 885 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 2: I have a full Excel spreadsheet with them too. 886 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,599 Speaker 1: Let me ask this, don't give me details before this. 887 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,599 Did you have some sort of a corporate job or 888 00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:25,480 an office job? Okay, I don't know. 889 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,559 Speaker 2: Side in a bathing suit with water. 890 00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how to use. Was it a bikini 891 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,840 car wash? That sounds cool? I don't know how to 892 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,119 use Excel? Worth shit. So it's funny that you have 893 00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,440 spreadsheets for everything and it's broken down. 894 00:54:37,559 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 2: And I learned from that job how to use Excel. 895 00:54:40,159 --> 00:54:42,639 And the reason why I have all these spreadsheets is 896 00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:46,440 because when I was independent and I didn't have an agent, 897 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,440 I needed to know my competition, which I still need 898 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,920 to know my competition, not that I consider them competition, 899 00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:57,679 because we support each other, at least to the best 900 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:04,960 of our ability. I was looking for production companies and 901 00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:07,639 directors and people like that that I could reach out 902 00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:10,159 to and say, hey, I'm independent. Now if you want 903 00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:12,559 to book me, this is how you contact me. Blah 904 00:55:12,559 --> 00:55:15,400 blah blah blah blah. So I still have them, they're 905 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,199 not really updated. And then I have a list of 906 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:24,599 like male creators that I might want to do content 907 00:55:24,639 --> 00:55:29,639 with for our sites things like that. But yeah, I 908 00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:31,920 did that when I had downtime. 909 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,280 Speaker 1: Should have been taking pictures though, should have been snapping selfies. 910 00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't have wanted to see me. 911 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,679 Speaker 1: Then I bet you know what disagree? I bet you've 912 00:55:43,679 --> 00:55:48,559 been very beautiful of your life. One thank you, ladies 913 00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:52,079 and gentlemen at Wendy Rain links to everything in the 914 00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:55,599 episode description. Please make sure you support the people we 915 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,800 talk to, otherwise we don't talk to them anymore. We 916 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:00,519 thank you so much for coming with me, and. 917 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 2: That thank you for having me. This was one