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off my Pylon. We cover western college football in the

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United States, and so we review championship Saturday, look at

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the playoff, look at the landscape in what is our

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season finale here on Get off my Pilon. So we

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started the day with BYU getting crushed by Texas Tech.

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you don't want to punish a team for playing a

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thirteenth game. You know, BYU earns its way into a

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conference title game a game thirteen, so you don't want

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to punish a team for that. You want to reward

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a team for getting into these conference championship games. However,

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it's just kind of undeniable, right that if you get

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into a thirteenth game, be competitive, play a close game

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against a quality opponent, and then you don't suffer. Frankly, though,

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we all know this b WHYU, even if it had

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lost to Texas Tech by one point in a classic,

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probably still wasn't getting in because you know, Alabama gets

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in as the nine seed even though its doors were

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blown off by Georgia, and that really gets right to

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the point that Alabama was not punished for losing the

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thirteenth game in a blowout, b why you was, So

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of course there's inconsistency. Of course Bama gets the benefit

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of the doubt. Be why you once again does not

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b why you had a strong playoff case to make

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last year. So you know, if you're a Cougar fan,

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like you have to be upset at this process, and

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you have to be upset that Big Twelve membership really

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hasn't elevated your profile or your clout in the room.

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That is something certainly worth considering if you're a BYU fan, like,

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you know BYU athletics is doing pretty well in a

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lot on a lot of fronts, including basketball, So it's

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not as though the move to the Big twelve has

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been bad, but it hasn't elevated you BYU football to

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the extent that I think a lot of fans would

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have wanted or hoped for in provo and throughout the

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BYU community. So it's worth chewing on that one for

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a bit. But you know, Alabama gets the benefit of

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the doubt. And here's the other thing about the playoff,

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and you know it ties into BYU getting snubbed. It's

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not just helmet bias without Alabama, but it's also a

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matter of you know, if the ACC had not been

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so idiotic about this, uh, you know how it arranged

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its conference championship game allowing Duke to get in and

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then Duke wins it the nightmare scenario. You know, if

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we're Rginia had beaten Duke, would this all be different?

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James Madison. But you know, really, if the ACC had

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enabled Miami to play in the ACC title game then

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and Miami wins it, then there's only one ACC team, Miami,

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representing the conference in the playoffs, and you don't have

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James Madison in. Maybe that creates a little more space

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resume to what Notre Dame did, and you know, Notre

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Dame's ACC opponents did not do well this year. Syracuse,

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Boston college. There was a lot of dead weight. There

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pitt was okay, NC State, you know, not especially good,

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schedule profile definitely got dragged down by the ACC. But

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get in over Alabama. Again, Notre Dame should have been

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in over Alabama. Miami should have been in over Notre

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head between Miami and Notre Dame was honored. So to

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have been tough for BYU to get in over Notre Dame.

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the Cougars, and it really is unfortunate because BYU's had

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taking up that other spot. And you know, James Madison

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great season obviously covering UCLA as I do. Bob Chesney

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now gets that big stage, that big profile, and he

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in that first round playoff game. So it's good for UCLA,

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things it's done, don't you need to have James Madison

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play somebody, you know, big time before you allow the

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Dukes and of the Sun Belt into the playoff. Like

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you know, and this goes back to something that I've

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talked about in the past. College football really needs to

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redo and rethink these conference championship games. They're out moded,

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they're outdated. In the twelve team playoff era, you know,

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Georgia UH did not get any boost for beating Alabama.

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to Indiana. Alabama doesn't drop after getting crushed by Georgia.

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it achieve? Why? Why are we even playing these games?

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which only hurt the ACC. Uh you know, the ACC

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could have had Virginia and Miami in. But so Duke

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winning cost the ACC one spot. At the ACC's fortunate

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getting in over Miami. See the ACC is fortunate it

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mess and college football is just not adjusting. Just on

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the subject of Notre Dame. And I know this is

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not the West, but like we are talking a bit

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about the national picture in college football. How it affects everybody.

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people have reason to worry about the future of the

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in college basketball. That Las Vegas series of games. Bowls

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now should become nil money grabs. You put a give

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one hundred, you give a million in nil dollars to

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the winner, and you give five hundred thousand to the loser.

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bowl games and keep them viable and you reduce opt outs.

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That clearly is the way to go. But anyway, getting

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back to BYU again, you know, the Cougars deserved a

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lot better. Their resume was good. You asked me about

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byused resume and tell you byused esme was better than

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Notre Dame. Notre Dame just did not play a lot

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of good teams. It lost two of the three big

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games on its schedule, you know, losing to A and

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should have been punished the same way BYU was, and

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it didn't happen because Alabama gets the benefit of the doubt.

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We know this, It's happened before. You know, Alabama getting

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in over thirteen or oh Florida State in twenty twenty three,

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Alabama didn't even make the SEC title game, forget about

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winning it. Alabama didn't even make the SEC title game

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in twenty seventeen, but gets in over Ohio State for

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the fourth playoff spot. So the more things change, the

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more they stayed the same in college football. So many

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things that are wrong with all of this, and BYU

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once again gets the short straw. So as we continue

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through are our survey of Western teams. So Boise State

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rough and bumpy ride, but they get a conference championship

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out of it. So Boise State salvages it's season, and

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so the Broncos at least have that. But you know

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they're gonna need a quarterback upgrade if they want to

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be a Group of five champion in future seasons. And

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the reconfigured conference. It'll be a true PAC twelve once again,

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not not the PAC twelve. It should be not the

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PAC twelve we know and love, but it'll at least

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have eight teams and there will at least be some

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coherence in terms of a football conference. It won't just

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be Washington State and Oregon State, but Boise State needing

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the quarterback upgrade next season if the Broncos really want

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want to be in the college football universe. And of

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twenty twenty six. So lots lots of intrigue going in

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the off season for all the teams in those two

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reconfigured conferences. You know, that's gonna be the significant change

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in the realignment chessboard for twenty twenty six. All right,

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so you know in the Big twelve we have the

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Arizona schools and Utah and all left out of it.

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needs to be not conference championship games anymore, because again

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that's just outdated. I think you can pretty clearly see

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that they need to be bubble games. And so you know,

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what if Utah had played James Madison in a bubble game?

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they gone ten and two, they didn't get there, but

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like that would have been an interesting and moreover worthwhile

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football game to play this weekend. And so just to

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be clear, you keep the television properties, you keep the

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media rights, like ESPN still has the media rights for

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a game in Atlanta and in Charlotte and in Arlington,

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and Fox still has the media rights for a game

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played in Indianapolis. You still play these games, but they're

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no longer championship games. They're bubble games. You have bubble

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game in Charlotte, Miami, Alabama could have been a bubble

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still have an interesting game to play. That is how

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college football can move forward. And so Utah, you know,

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a bubble game against James Madison. Or you could also

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say Vanderbilt. Like Vanderbilt in Utah, they would have loved

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It should happen in future seasons. College football so slow

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era that this past weekend just needs a remake, and

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elite defenses. Now their offenses not so much, but their

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this game did mean to Indiana and as much as

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the Hoosiers rightly are going to celebrate their Big Ten championship,

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like how many times does Indiana football win the Big

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Ten title on the grid iron. And as much as

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great as it is to have Indiana playing in the

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Rose Bowl first time in fifty eight years, you know,

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since nineteen sixty eight, the twenty twenty six Rose Bowl

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first time, it will be the first time in fifty

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eight years for IU, and it's only the second time

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ever and Indiana's been playing football since eighteen ninety nine.

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That's cool. But as cool as it is in Indiana,

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how state might meet again for the national championship and

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that game would be the main event. So having them

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play as interesting as it was for some, not as

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compelling for others. I mean, it was a close ten game,

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but it still felt like a warm up act. It

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felt like NFL Week eighteen. You know, two division rivals

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that you know are going to be in the playoffs,

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like Seahawks Rams for instance. You know they're playing in

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Week eighteen. They might knock heads a few weeks later

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for a much bigger prize. Kind of felt like that.

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And so you know, with two teams who are unbeaten

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and you know they're going to be in the playoff,

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why are they playing a thirteenth game? Because they need

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to win at least three playoff games, if not four,

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to win the national championship. Oregon should have been in

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that game in Indianapolis. Or perhaps you don't even have Oregon.

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Perhaps that's where James Madison and Utah could have played

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a bubble game. That is how college football needs to

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be rethinking these things. Remember last year, Oregon was unbeaten

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and number one, but it had to play a Big

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Ten championship game. Ohio State was ten and two. It

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did not have to play the Big Ten championship game.

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Ohio State was able to rest Oregon had to play

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an extra game. What happened when the two teams met

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in the Rose Bowl. Ohio State was the sharper, you

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know inform team. It played a first round game which

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kind of knocked off the rust. Ohio State was in

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a really good spot to play well in that game

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and win that game. So, you know, the incentives that

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we assigned to these conference championships are backwards that the

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teams that don't do as well and are closer to

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the playoff bubble, they should be playing an extra game.

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They should be burdened with that extra game. Ohio State

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and Indiana just should have been called co Big Ten champions.

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Maybe you have a coin flip in terms of the

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Rose Bowl versus Cotton Bowl, and maybe that might not

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go down very well. But you know, not asking them

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to play an extra game makes a lot of sense,

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and it should be teams that are not as accomplished

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here the ten and two team should be playing on

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this weekend. They play a bubble game to either get

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in or eliminate themselves, but they at least get a chance.

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You know, Vanderbilt didn't get a chance to play a

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thirteenth game. BYU played a thirteenth game, but it was

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against Texas Tech, a team it already lost to BYU,

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Notre Dame. They see, that would have been a perfect

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bubble game for this past weekend. You know, just the

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way college football arranges these pieces on the board, it's

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just so misguided and it needs it needs an overhaul.

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We're not talking tweaks. This past weekend needs to be

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overhauled for next season. And I think it's pretty clear

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that we can all see why. So now we look

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ahead to the bowl games. You know, Oregon in the

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playoff gets a great draw. Oregon, Oregon came out with

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a great draw. The Ducks have the best draw of

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any team that did not get a top four seed

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and did not therefore get a first round by Oregon

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gets James Madison at home. Then the Ducks play Texas Tech.

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You know, assuming they beat James Madison and it's very

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likely that they will, then they get to play Texas Tech,

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so they avoid Ohio State and Georgia. And then if

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Oregon beats Texas Tech, and remember the Ducks are getting

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players back from injury over the next several weeks, They're

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going to be a much healthier team by the time

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they played James Madison on December twenty and you know

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they should they should pretty comfortably win that game. So

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they go to Texas Tech, where they go to the

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Orange Bowl to play Texas Tech in Miami on New

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Year's Day, and so, you know, so that would set

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up Oregon pretty well. And if Oregon does beat Texas Tech,

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then Oregon gets a rematch with Indiana, and so you know,

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Indiana was the better team, but this would be a

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revenge game for Oregon. So like Oregon's would be able

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to go into a Peach Bowl playoff semi final against Indiana,

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saying hey, here are all the things we didn't do

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well enough the first time. Now we can solve them.

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Now we can get them right the second time. I'm

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looking at this draw and I'm saying, and I'm thinking

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to myself, Oregon has a very realistic chance of going

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to the national championship team. Now, I wouldn't necessarily bet

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on Oregon to beat Indiana, but I would certainly give

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Oregon a chance. I do think Oregon beats Texas Tech.

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I mean, Texas Tech's a good team. Jacob Rodriguez should

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be a Heisman Trophy finalist. I personally would have him second.

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I don't have a ballot, but if I did, I'd

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have him second behind Jeremiah Love of Notre Dame. If

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I think should be the winner, I think Diego Pavia

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would be third on my ballot. You know, Mendoza in

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saying good quarterbacks, but we all saw like the defenses

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are the stars on those Miami and Ohio State teams.

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So you know, Mendoza, insane, would not be on my

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finalist ballot. It should be Love first, Jacob Rodriguez second,

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Diego Pavia third. But but to get back to Texas Tech,

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you know, Texas Tech's been beating up the Big twelve,

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which I don't think is a particularly good league. Now

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I'm not I'm not exactly saying the Big Tens are

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great league, but I do think Oregon has a level

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of athleticism, h and quality up front which is gonna

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hold Texas Tech at bay. And I do think Oregon

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and Texas Tech on a neutral field that Oregon with

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its guys healthy, with its team healthy, is clearly better

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than Texas Tech. So I do have Oregon going to

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the semi finals and then a possible Oregon Indiana rematch.

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You know, Oregon's gonna make that competitive and or in

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Oregon has a very realistic shot of playing for the

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national title. So you know that is that is basically

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you know, that's the horse the West has in the playoff.

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Oregon is the the Western team. Uh. That's in this

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playoff mix. You know, two group of five teams in

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James Madison, UH and Tulane. You have Miami going to

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A and m You have that ugly SEC rematch Alabama Oklahoma.

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That's one of the horrible things about the playoff bracket,

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all the rematches, Tulane, Ole Miss rematch, who cares Alabama

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Oklahoma rematch who cares, And you could have an ole

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Miss Georgia rematch in the quarterfinals, assuming ole Miss beats Tulane,

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which is very likely. So you know all these stale matchups,

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and I have to say. You know, in basketball, which

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is not a well bracketed tournament, if you follow the

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NCAA tournament each year, bracketing is usually pretty bad. But

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at least in basketball, the committee is going to adjust

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a seed line to avoid two teams from the same

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conference playing early in the tournament. You know, they're all

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there are bracketing roles in their bracketing conflicts, so you

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adjust a seed line to avoid that conflict. In football,

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it's clear the committee either doesn't want to or is

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not empowered to do so that needs to be fixed.

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You need to be able to adjust a seed line

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to avoid a rematch, especially if it's a conference rematch.

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You know, Tulaane Ole Miss is bad enough, but Alabama

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Oklahoma they met two weeks ago. I have no interest

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in that game. I saw that game like that's gonna

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be a Friday night. I'm gonna be watching College of

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Basketball instead of that. So, you know, we go through

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the bracket and Oregon's the one get Off my Pylon

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team in the derby, and I think the Oregon has

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a really good shot. And you know, like Oregon James Madison,

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that shouldn't even be a question in Onsen Stadium, that

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should be blowout city. And then Oregon Texas Tech and

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the Orange Bowl that would be a really interesting game.

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Promises a lot of fireworks and excitement. So that's that's

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the twenty twenty five college football regular season here on

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Get Off my Pylon. You know, in terms of the

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balance of power in the West, as we kind of

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step back and take a bigger look at things, you know,

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USC is going to count on that twenty twenty six

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recruiting class, but the Trojans will need to make big

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splashes plural in the January transfer portal and particularly defensive tackle,

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defensive end. Us He's run defense trampled by Oregon, trampled

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by Donor Dame. That defense didn't show up against Illinois

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either the three the three losses the Trojans had, their

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run defense was just not up to it. So that's

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where us he needs to upgrade in the portal. It's

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going to be really interesting to see what Bob Chesney

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does at UCLA, and of course, with Kurt Signetti winning

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the Big Ten in two years, just two seasons to

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rule the Big Ten coming over from James Madison, UCLA

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obviously is banking on that James Madison magic for Bob Chesney,

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you know, to be the West Coast Signetti. And it'll

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be interesting to see what Bob Chesney is able to

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do in terms of bringing his James Madison stars over

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to Westwood in the portal. Can he create that same

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kind of instant renaissance that Signette's done in Bloomington with

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the Hoosiers Now Washington. Washington has a top fifteen recruiting

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class under Jetfish. But the thing at Washington Jetfish has

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struck out at quarterback in his first two seasons on

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the job. He needs his quarterback to be a dude.

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He needs his quarterback to be a rock star. That's

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what he's been missing in Seattle. That's what Jedfish really

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has to get right at Washington if the Huskies are

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going to take the next step in twenty twenty six.

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You know, with Utah, as we go through programs looking

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ahead to twenty twenty six, you know, Kyle Whittingham got

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ten wins out of this team. He did a pretty

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good job maintaining quality at the quarterback spot because Devin

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Dampier showed that he can ball now. I mean, elite

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defense has stopped him, but non elite defenses didn't have

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answers for him. Utah was able to beat Kansas State

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fifty one seven. Uh. The offense got better as the

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season went along. Quarterback is something where if Utah gets

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it right, the youths do well. If they don't, that's

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when they struggle. You know that Utah is going to

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be good in the trenches, but the skill positions are

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where the youths need to enter twenty twenty six with

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the right ingredients Arizona. That defense really came along under

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Brent Brennan, so maintaining a high floor on defense is

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going to make Arizona a stable, winning program. I have

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confidence in Brent Brennan. I think you know, he did

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an amazing job at San Jose State. He's shown he

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can coach ball. He can carry this into the Big

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twelve at the Power four level, Arizona should feel good

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about where it's at, finding upgrades at the skill positions

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and having a reasonably solid offensive line. That's where Arizona

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needs to focus because the defense is going to be there,

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it's about the offense in terms of the Wildcats trying

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to take the next step. In twenty twenty six, Arizona

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State Sam Levitt did not show up to a postseason

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team meeting. What happened with him? You know, he was

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a playoff quarterback last year, but something definitely happened behind

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the scene that soured Sam Levitt on Arizona State. So

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in twenty twenty six, Kenny Dillingham needs to find himself

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a new quarterback. That's gonna be a really interesting drama.

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But I bet Kenny Dillingham has proved a very capable, nimble,

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adaptable coach who can make adjustments, who can who can

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find the players to plug into important positions and important roles.

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I mean, Jeff Simms was horrible at Georgia Tech and

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Nebraska before he became before he came to Arizona State. Now,

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Dillingham didn't turn him into John Elway, but he turned

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him into an okay quarterback, which really that's impressive. That's

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impressive enough. Kenny Dillingham has who I was a skeptic

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of three four years ago. You know what Jobby did

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with Bonix at Oregon, what he's done since then with

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the Sun Devils, he's really impressed me. I think he's

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really on top of it. And assuming he gets the

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right quarterback, Arizona State could be right back into the

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playoff conversation next season in a Big twelve, which is

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going to be up for grabs once again. I mean,

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that's the default setting in the Big twelve. And you

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have Matt Campbell leaving Iowa State, so Iowa State not

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likely to be as much of a factor. But BYU,

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with Kolonie Sataki, what he's done with Bear Bachmeier this season,

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BYU's going to be at the forefront of the Big

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twelve conversation next season. One team that's not going to

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be at the forefront of the Big twelve conversation is Colorado.

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Haven't mentioned Dion, but of course Colorado has just faded

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into irrelevance. And we all knew that the Travis Hunter

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and Shader Sanders departures would matter. We saw the full

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extent of that, of the negative effects of those two

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departures this season. So Dion is back at the bottom

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and he's having to rebuild everything all over again. He

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depends on the portal a lot, but you know he

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has to supplement that with some measure of recruiting. But

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is the clock ticking on him in a way that

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you know he's not really going to be able to

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catch up in this twenty twenty sixth season. That's going

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to be really interesting at Cal. We can hit on

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Cal and also Stanford, but especially Cal going into twenty

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twenty six. So Tosh Lupoi, whom we did mention on

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last week's show, he does officially become the cow coach

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and he immediately locks up Duran Kiave Sagapolutele as his

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quarterback for twenty twenty six. So that was the most

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important player tosh Lupoi had to recruit at Cal. Check

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that box mission accomplished. So Cal already taking a big

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step forward under Tosh Lupois. And I think Cal's going

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to be better than Stanford next season. You know, not

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impressed with the Tavita Pritchard hier by Andrew Luck. I

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think Tosh Lupoi already is a few steps ahead in

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Berkeley of where the Cardinal are in Palo Alto. We

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talked about last week about JaMarcus Shepherd Alabama. Kaelin de

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Boor assistant to Oregon State. Thought, that's an excellent hire.

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So now we get to see what JaMarcus Shepherd does

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in recruiting and in the portal in Corvallis. That's could

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be really interesting. And last, but not least, Washington State.

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What's the hot rumor right now at Washington State? You know,

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obviously the Notre Dame Bowl news, the playoff bracket, lots

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of other big, high end stories dominating the college football headlines.

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But meanwhile, if you've been paying attention to the Washington

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State head coaching search, two names have come up, Chip

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Kelly and Rick new Heisel. Yes, that's not a joke.

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John Canzano, the columnist based in Portland who follows, you know,

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Pacific Northwest college football and West Coast college football in general.

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He's written about that at his sub stack. Chip Kelly

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his name has surfaced in connection to Wazoo and Rick

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new High And what what would Rick new Heiseel do?

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Uh if he if he becomes Wazoo's head coach. Yes,

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he'd have Jerry Newheisel his son as offensive coordinator. Makes

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too much sense, right? I mean? Rick working for CBS

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in the studio this season, Proud Papa seeing Jerry new

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Heiseel out coach James Franklin and Penn State. The idea

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of a father's son head coach coordinator combo and at

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Washington State a low pressure job. They're gonna get time,

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They're gonna they're gonna be shown patients if it happens.

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You know, Washington State's not in a position to say, well,

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you gotta be, you know, contending for the playoff. You

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gotta win ten games a year. No, that's not that

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the kind of job Washington State is. So Rick new

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Heisel and his son Jerry could be on the map.

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They could be in play for Washington State. That would

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be an incredible story if it happens. I offer no prediction,

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I offer no guesses in terms of what will actually happen.

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But that is a fascinating plot point with the Washington

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State head coach and search. But anyway, Oregon's the one

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dog in the in the derby that we still have

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left on. Get off my pieline, Ducks get a good draw.

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Now it's up to you know, key players to get healthy,

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especially receivers. Oregon's receiver room has been decimated this season,

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so guys are gonna get healthy, should pound. James Madison

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would fully expect to play Texas Tech in the Orange

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Bowl on New Year's Day and then we'll see what

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happens from there. So, folks, thanks for listening to Get

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Off My Pieline for yet another season under the umbrella

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of the College Gridaren Coast to Coast podcast network. It's

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been a treat to bring you these shows every week,

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and hey, you want to catch that Yards and Stripes

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Army Navy Mega Preview this week with Pryce Atkinson and

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00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:59,519
Steve Carney. They do a great job over there, so

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your Army Navy Preview, and of course tune into all

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the other shows, Noah Drury's Big Ten Paradigm, the Pig

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Skin and Burnt Ends Show, Jason Powers, Florida Football Insiders,

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All Sports Discussion, the ACC Football Podcast. Go to grideren

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Apple Speaker, Spotify. So another season in the books. Folks,

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thanks for listening to the Get Off My Pylon College

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Football podcast, part of the College Griden Coast to Coast

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Podcast Network. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Enjoy

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the Bowl games, enjoy the playoff. On to twenty twenty six.

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Solong everybody,

