WEBVTT 1 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:21.960 As you are listening to the Age of Transitions, I'm 2 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.800 your host, Jon Franz, coming at you live this Friday night. 3 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:29.559 Tune twenty seven, twenty twenty five, Live every Friday night 4 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:33.479 from the facilities of O'Kelly dot com. First out of 5 00:00:33.560 --> 00:00:36.200 the Age of Transition, second hour Uncle of the podcast. 6 00:00:37.000 --> 00:00:40.280 Thank you for listening to the show podcast or live format. 7 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.079 Consider going to ol dot com send a donation to 8 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:48.159 keep the network going and growing. My website is the 9 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:51.479 Age of Transitions dot com. All sorts of ways to 10 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.439 support their My book Revolveman Scientific, Rise to Godhood have 11 00:00:55.600 --> 00:01:00.280 paperback end ebook copies available the Patreon campaign. 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We'll get into 23 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.280 the substance of that. But tonight I'm welcoming somebody that 24 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.079 I'm going to refer to as why. So, like the 25 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:51.040 letter why, I mean a letter why not, Like I'm 26 00:01:51.079 --> 00:01:53.280 asking the question why, although I'm sure I will be 27 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:57.599 so why? How are you doing? Ah? Good? How are 28 00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.599 you doing great? I'm really excited to have you here? 29 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:03.840 So why do we here? 30 00:02:04.359 --> 00:02:07.879 Yeah? It's it's great, man. I've been you just as 31 00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:10.639 an intro. You emailed me, you send me an email 32 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:15.840 about different work you had done about the connections between 33 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:25.039 technocracy incorporated, zeitgeist movement and and other things, and I 34 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:27.520 looked at like, man, this is great and it was 35 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.520 just really cool to get the email from you. And 36 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:33.280 we've been corresponding and I'm happy to have you on 37 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:35.520 the show tonight. But before we even get to any 38 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.439 of that, we're going to talk about that. Why don't 39 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:44.960 you introduce yourself a little? Like what got you interested 40 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:47.039 in doing? Yeah? Yeah, what are you doing? 41 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:47.199 Like? 42 00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:49.000 What are you up to? What's what's going on? 43 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:56.919 Well, I guess I mean, like everybody else, I've sort 44 00:02:56.919 --> 00:03:02.240 of seen the stuff happening with q Andon and personally, 45 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:03.560 I've always been like. 46 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.240 Four chan newser myself. 47 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:11.039 So I remember when the anonymous movement started back in 48 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:15.039 like two thousand and eight and like the scientology stuff, 49 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:21.280 and I've kind of just observed all that stuff. Like 50 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:25.319 I was at Occupy, but like I never like participated 51 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.080 heavily and that stuff, but like I remember. 52 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.000 Were you were in New York City Occupy. 53 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.280 No, I was at a regional one, but I was 54 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:40.000 there for like those events. I remember when like the 55 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.599 whole Trump stuff and like Pizza Gate started. And I 56 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:48.560 don't really remember when QAnon started because like I think 57 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:53.599 that I wouldn't have found it interesting, so like I 58 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:56.599 may have like seen it, but like the actual original 59 00:03:56.639 --> 00:04:00.560 posts were like not very interesting, so I didn't really 60 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:04.319 follow that. But like I've kind of just observed all 61 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.439 this stuff over the years, just kind of building up 62 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:08.360 over like. 63 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:11.879 Into like whatever it became. 64 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.599 And it's all kind of centered around this anonymous stuff, 65 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:22.040 this four Chan culture, and like there's so many different 66 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:29.079 areas of how that is like become just like the 67 00:04:29.120 --> 00:04:33.600 default Internet culture by this point, and nobody. 68 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:35.800 Has noticed it either, that's the thing, right, Well. 69 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.319 They have noticed it, but they've kind of not. 70 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:46.720 Like critically panalyzed what has actually happened in a way, ye, Like, 71 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.519 because the idea is that is that it's like this 72 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:54.079 leaderless group, just like things like occupy, just like other 73 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.879 things that supposedly take this form where it's just supposed 74 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:00.600 to be like a spontane thing. 75 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:08.600 Yeah. Well, I will say that everything you're saying, the 76 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:10.920 things you say are the things that I've been through too, 77 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.759 Like I actually kind of got involved in all this 78 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:17.360 stuff around two thousand and eight myself, and all of 79 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:22.240 these things you're referencing the beginnings of Anonymous, the hacker 80 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.240 group Anonymous. I remember when that started too, and they're 81 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:30.079 doing those street actions specifically against Scientology. I remember seeing 82 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:34.920 people in Ohio, in downtown Columbus, Ohio, they were doing 83 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:39.439 a protest down there against Scientology, and like, who are 84 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.120 these people? What's going on? And then you know, Anonymous 85 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:46.040 ended up getting to be huge, this giant hacker organization, 86 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:51.600 this weird amorphous thing that had a huge role in 87 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:58.759 the culture creation aspect of ant of like counter cultural 88 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.319 Internet everything. I would say that they're kind of give 89 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:03.839 at the crux of that, right. 90 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:08.199 Yeah, So yeah, that that was what was so exciting. 91 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:09.720 You sent me that email and it was all the 92 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:13.480 stuff that has interested me, and I've been watching myself 93 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.759 and this whole time. Something like I really want to 94 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.519 do on this show is try to get to the 95 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:24.759 bottom of the connections that are here, and you know, the. 96 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:26.480 The side of the story that we're not seeing. We 97 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.199 get like this public facing idea and it's almost like 98 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.759 just one giant art project in one sense. But I'm 99 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:39.040 always wondering, Okay, what's who's really behind this? What what 100 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:41.720 aren't we being told? What are the connections? And then 101 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:43.759 I looked at your stuff and it's it's great, man. 102 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:47.160 So do we wanna Do you want to reference where 103 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.639 you've posted your writings online? Let's do that. Yeah. 104 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:54.720 So my stuff it's at medium dot com slash at 105 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.319 y h l y two f. It's supposed to be 106 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.560 like in a non must post, so like, uh, I don't 107 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:05.519 really have like a handle. But the project, the writing 108 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:09.720 is called Untold q Andon Origins, So you can search 109 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:13.199 untold q Andon Origins or you can go to medium 110 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:17.560 dot com slash at y h L y two f. 111 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.519 Yeah, and that's that's why I'm calling you. Why because 112 00:07:20.519 --> 00:07:22.560 that starts with a why. I'll also link all of 113 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:24.759 this in the post at the Age of Transitions dot 114 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:27.519 Com for this episode, so there'll be links to your stuff. 115 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.240 So why don't we right now, why don't we outline 116 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.600 what would you like? What are the topics you want 117 00:07:34.600 --> 00:07:36.920 to lay out right now and what would you like 118 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:40.199 to uh do on this show right now? 119 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.959 Well, I thought that we could start by talking about 120 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:47.319 Elon Musk and Technocracy Incorporated. 121 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:50.439 Yes, that's a great start, let's just do that. 122 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:56.759 So I'm going to assume that people are familiar with 123 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.519 the fact that Elon Musk's grandfather was in this group 124 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:04.759 called Technocracy Incorporated. A number of people have done articles 125 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:09.160 on this, and they were like this group that wanted 126 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.279 to replace the economy and specifically, in their words, the 127 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:20.399 price system with like technologically like a controlled system of 128 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:24.040 like resource management based on energy. 129 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:25.160 Accounting, as they called it. 130 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:31.959 So they were going to like distribute credits for people 131 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:34.679 based on like the total amount of energy available. 132 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:39.519 This is way back in what like the nineteen thirties, right, Yeah, Yeah, 133 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:42.080 it's been a while ago, even on my grandfather, so 134 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:49.799 this is always in the past. But nonetheless, yeah. 135 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:50.919 And so actually, something I would like to point out 136 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:55.080 here is that I've been paying some attention to the 137 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:57.879 other movement that his grandfather was involved in, which is 138 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:06.879 called social credit, and social credit is actually interestingly similar 139 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:10.960 to technocracy Incorporated, and I'm starting to suspect that they 140 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.360 may have a common origin, even though they officially do 141 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.559 not have a common origin, And so I'd like to 142 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.519 go into the actual origins of both of those movements. 143 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:23.480 Social credit is. 144 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:29.480 It's a similar ideology supposed to be like an economic 145 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:34.600 theory in the category of like distributist economics, which is 146 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:38.519 again it's based on the idea that the price system 147 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:42.320 of money is inefficient and so that they should like 148 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:46.919 replace that with a system where the government basically distributes 149 00:09:47.080 --> 00:09:53.440 credit for consumers to consume goods. In social credit, it's 150 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:58.000 based on this idea that, like, because of automation, factories 151 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.399 will spend less and less on labor as time goes on, 152 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:04.159 and that because of that, they won't be able to 153 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:08.480 pay workers, and workers won't be able to consume. But 154 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:11.279 the way that it's presented is kind of like, uh, 155 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:18.759 it's not exactly like a coherent economics theory according to 156 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:23.159 most economists. But the thing that I find interesting is 157 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:27.759 that Technocracy Inc. Was founded by a guy in New 158 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:31.519 York City and Greenwich Village and his name was Howard Scott. 159 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.320 And this guy was like a bohemian like Greenwich Village. Uh, 160 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:39.480 sort of a beaten it guy, except he like pretended 161 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:49.279 to be a German engineer and social Yeah basically okay, No, 162 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:53.679 apparently he convinced like legitimate scientists that he was a 163 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:58.559 German engineer according to our profile and Time magazine from 164 00:10:58.600 --> 00:10:59.240 back in the day. 165 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:03.159 But wait, wait, wait, and this this, this is not 166 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.039 a guy related to Elon Mosus somebody else. 167 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:09.080 No, this is the guy who created the Technocracy Inc. 168 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:14.000 In nineteen nineteen. Okay, remember that was in nineteen nineteen. Okay, 169 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:19.200 now in London. That was in New York. In London. 170 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:27.399 In nineteen nineteen, ar Orge Alfred Rage published the first 171 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:31.399 paper on social credit, which was I think was called 172 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.360 a Mechanical View of the Economy or a Mechanical View 173 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:36.639 of Economics by H. 174 00:11:36.679 --> 00:11:37.200 Douglas. 175 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.519 And so apparently these two events have nothing to do 176 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:46.200 with each other. They're both in nineteen nineteen, and they're 177 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.679 both coming out of the avant garde scene. Because Orge, 178 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:55.159 his journal the New Age was like a British modernist 179 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.200 avant guarde like magazine where they would talk about like 180 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.320 Nietzschee and published. 181 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:05.200 Like modernist and like futurist poems and stuff like that. 182 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.080 Sure, so neither of these things came out of like 183 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:11.320 serious economic circles. 184 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.600 Now, what it seems to me is that. 185 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:21.120 Nineteen nineteen was immediately after the Bolshevik Revolution. That's the 186 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:25.639 observation I'm making about that, Okay, And I think that 187 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.440 if you think about that and what these movements became, 188 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:34.200 the fact that they both appear apparently not in relation 189 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:40.440 to each other, and then they go throughout time connecting 190 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:44.000 back into these modern movements that we're talking about. Keep 191 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:47.960 in mind that these two things both started immediately after 192 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:51.039 the Bolshevik Revolution, Yes. 193 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:55.360 Okay, Yeah, and Rage, I know he was involved in 194 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:00.919 which he had some occult initiation into what launds. 195 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.960 As you remember, he was involved with a bunch of stuff. 196 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:05.200 He was a theosophist. 197 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:10.200 He was later a follower of Kurdjief, and he became 198 00:13:10.440 --> 00:13:14.600 the guy who I guess introduced Kurjief to America when he, 199 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.799 like Kurjif, fled from the Russian Revolution. So again, consider 200 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:25.320 that we were talking about Russian mystics fleeing the Russian Revolution. 201 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:28.879 Because this stuff. 202 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:35.960 We look in modern day, these apparent connections between Russian. 203 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:40.120 Propaganda and QAnon and these mystical. 204 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:44.840 Ideas that are basically being like resurrected again, And it has. 205 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.440 Something to do with how these mystical ideas as. 206 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:55.200 A kind of like reaction to an actual, real political revolution, 207 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.440 are kind of presenting a new age revolution of the 208 00:14:01.519 --> 00:14:05.440 mind as like an alternative to that which gets used 209 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:09.360 by the American side during the Cold War. But then 210 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.559 after the end of the Cold War, I think it 211 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.879 kind of shifts again, and I think that explains how 212 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.559 this stuff gets brought into the more contemporary Rush propaganda. 213 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:23.279 And this is interesting just from the outset as well, 214 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:29.519 because we're talking about a cult obtuse abstract things that 215 00:14:29.679 --> 00:14:33.440 relate to very real Like you're saying, political and economic 216 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:38.200 movements and actual historic events that everybody's aware of. But 217 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:41.559 if we're talking about these weird and even secret society 218 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:45.919 connections and strange art scenes and all like that, things 219 00:14:45.960 --> 00:14:49.799 like that, you cannot if you're trying to pin them 220 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:54.600 down and understand them, it's always difficult. So that's well, 221 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:56.120 I just find that fascinating. 222 00:14:56.440 --> 00:14:59.919 That's the function they serve is to mystify the real 223 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:05.960 determinants of like real political and historical events. 224 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:11.919 Yeah, yeah, no, this is this is great man. Okay, 225 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:14.919 So from here? Where would you like to take this? 226 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:17.919 From here? What do we got next? Well? 227 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.399 That was kind of that's kind of what I've been 228 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.600 looking at most recently and what I kind of wanted 229 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.600 to get out. So, I mean, at this point, I 230 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.519 don't know if you want to talk about the Venus 231 00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:32.879 project in Pseitgeist. Yes, I do, because okay, let's let's 232 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:35.120 put all the Zeitgeist movies. 233 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.759 Oh okay, all right, did you mean recently in preparation Periers? 234 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:42.879 You watch the There are two Zeitgeist movies, right, are there? 235 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:44.399 More than he's got more than that? 236 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:44.919 Oh? 237 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:46.120 God, I didn't even know that. 238 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:48.960 Okay, Well he's got one that was in twenty twenty. 239 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:52.360 Really I don't. I don't forget what is that one titled? 240 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.600 Because there's a dendum as a second. So what is 241 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:55.200 the third one? 242 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:55.960 Uh? 243 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.799 The third one is moving forward? 244 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:00.919 Oh? I do remember that title. I don't think I 245 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:04.720 ever watched it, though. What's going on with these Zeitgeist films? 246 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:04.960 Then? 247 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:06.320 Why? What do you got for us. 248 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:12.639 Well, well, I guess. 249 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.159 I guess maybe I should go from QAnon back to Zekeeist. 250 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:22.440 Sure, because because the Segeist Zeitgeist, if we're talking about 251 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:29.399 technocracy and technical running the society in an idealistic technocratic view, 252 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:34.600 that's definitely what the Zeitgeist movement ended up advocating for. 253 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.399 Well, yeah, and I can tell you why I can 254 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.720 say this right now is that Jacques Fresco, who's the 255 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:43.240 guy who created the Venus Project, was a member of 256 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:44.240 Technocracy Inc. 257 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.200 There we go, We're the reason that. Yeah. 258 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:53.240 And you'll see if you familiarize yourself with Technocracy Inc. 259 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.039 And you watch the Zechist movies, even the one in 260 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.960 twenty twenty that I just watched today, he's talking about 261 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.799 the price system, which comes from Technocracy. 262 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.599 Okay, so they're using the same terminology, like the economics 263 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.839 sort of terminology is the same. 264 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.799 And Jack Fresco kind of changed it a little bit, Peter. 265 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:14.599 Joseph, I mean, it does seem like they're kind of 266 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.640 making it more like New Agy and even in some 267 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:20.720 ways more kind of like pseudo like Lefty in a 268 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:21.279 certain way. 269 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:22.240 As the time goes on. 270 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:28.640 Yes, but but they use the same ideas, and so. 271 00:17:29.319 --> 00:17:31.799 I will say for the Zeitgeist movement, what was so 272 00:17:31.880 --> 00:17:34.599 striking to me was you have the first Zegeist film, 273 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:38.200 which was an absolute smash hit when it comes to 274 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:44.920 conspiracy culture movies documentaries from the two thousands era. That 275 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.359 was like maybe you had this change and that I 276 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:51.160 would say, or probably the two and then maybe America 277 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.880 Freedom to Fascism. Those are I break rank all them 278 00:17:54.920 --> 00:17:56.960 in the top three and then you could argue which 279 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.480 ones on number one. I would say Zechgeist the movie 280 00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:00.440 is probably one. 281 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:05.119 Honestly, I kind of wonder too because like none of 282 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:08.519 them seem like they're really that good, like as movies, 283 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:12.839 they're not that well put together or I mean they've 284 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.799 got a lot of like weird uh interludes and stuff. 285 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:20.599 Yes, they're unconventional. I mean personally that's what I kind 286 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:21.759 of about. 287 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.119 Really have a very good touch for that kind of thing. Yeah, 288 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:28.599 Like it's it doesn't like flow very well to in 289 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:32.880 my view, But there is an aspect to that where 290 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.079 I think it's actually kind of like some kind of 291 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.480 manipulative technique that you can see in there, because they're 292 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:45.160 constantly switching between images of like the these like serene 293 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:50.880 like landscapes and like outer space stuff, and then like 294 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.920 there'll be like people in like a war or something 295 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:55.279 and like bombs going off. 296 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:56.680 Sure, got it. 297 00:18:57.960 --> 00:18:58.759 That's in there too. 298 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.319 And you see that in the Vena Project movies, because 299 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.720 the Venus Project also makes tons of movies. 300 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.480 Okay, now see that's well, that's the point I wanted 301 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:09.920 to make too, is you had the first Zeitgeist film, 302 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.400 It was standalone. It was definitely from the conspiracy culture world. 303 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:18.559 It was this countercultural force for sure, and it had 304 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.640 an impact. But then you get a dndum come out 305 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.000 and then all of a sudden this thing that was 306 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:26.839 just this movie that made you think about at least 307 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:31.960 different about nine to eleven. Truth and religion and money, Right, 308 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:35.039 those are the three things. Well, when the second one hits, 309 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.759 all of a sudden, there's like this weird added on 310 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:40.359 thing of oh, gi, have you ever heard of Jacques 311 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:43.119 Fresco and his Venus Project. This is the answer to 312 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:44.200 all our problems. 313 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:46.319 Let's listen to this guy's like, and it just always 314 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:47.880 seemed like what the hell is this? 315 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.720 Like, why are you tacking this on everything? It was 316 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:51.839 just so bizarre. 317 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:54.839 So it's very bizarre. 318 00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:58.839 Yeah, right, and I mean, if you guys like want 319 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:03.079 like go watch like Jack Fresco movies. He has like 320 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.119 a way of talking and like I think Peter Joseph 321 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:09.559 kind of does this, but like Fresco is better. 322 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:12.039 It's kind of like, uh, maybe a. 323 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:14.640 Little bit like what a con man does, where he 324 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:18.720 kind of like jumps between topics and he's always got 325 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:21.839 like little examples of stuff that he can pull out 326 00:20:22.039 --> 00:20:25.400 that kind of connect but they don't really to kind 327 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:29.359 of make him seem like an unconventional visionary like his 328 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.880 Both of these guys there thing is that they're like visionaries. 329 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:39.759 Yes, Joseph. Joseph himself, for sure, he commands this presence 330 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:43.680 that he is this guy with answers and that he 331 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:49.000 knows what he's talking about. Uh, he has an intellectual 332 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:53.160 presence about him and he hasn't answered every question. He's like, hey, look, 333 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:54.839 you know this is this is what we need to do. 334 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:58.599 And it definitely I don't know, it's definitely seems like 335 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.720 he has a cultivated persona. There's no doubt about it. 336 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:06.160 Yeah, and I don't know really what as fast as 337 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:09.079 like he was a performance, he was like a musician 338 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:11.440 that we don't really know. 339 00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:14.160 He said, that to be able to make the film. 340 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.440 He was a motion graphics artist and that's how he 341 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:20.880 made like the graphics for the film, and so I'm 342 00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:23.400 sure he was probably I believe he was in New 343 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:27.519 York City working as a video artist, which is believable 344 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.240 if he made that film, That's that's how he made 345 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:30.680 this thing. So I think he was probably, you know, 346 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.200 like a freelancer kind of guy. But when it comes 347 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:34.799 to any sort of affiliations with. 348 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:40.559 I don't know who his video Psycheist is. The first 349 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:45.160 video is presenting like new age ideas. Clearly there's the 350 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.720 Age of Aquarius stuff is in there. I know there's 351 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:52.359 other stuff like I don't know exactly what the whole 352 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.599 like zodiac Jesus thing is associated with, but it's like 353 00:21:56.640 --> 00:22:00.119 some kind of like new age thing, So I don't know, 354 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.759 he must have learned that stuff somewhere. 355 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.319 Yeah, he gets into a lot of the comparative religion stuff, 356 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:07.920 which I think is interesting and fascinating. And he does 357 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.720 also credit Jordan Maxwell, which uses Jordan Maxwell's voice in 358 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:16.680 that Jordan is an absolute like he's a huge voice 359 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:21.640 in conspiracy culture going back decades and decades. So I 360 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.680 don't know's there's a lot going on. It's that case. 361 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:27.000 Well, yeah, I mean the stuff is interesting. 362 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:29.839 I don't I didn't like watch any of those movies 363 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.119 when they came out, so and like a lot of 364 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:34.200 those older guys, I don't know anything about So. 365 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:39.039 Okay, but why don't we return to Jacques Fresco, the 366 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:42.440 Venus Project and you and again, Fresco was a part 367 00:22:42.599 --> 00:22:45.759 of Technocracy Inc. In its early days, right when he 368 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:46.960 was a youth. Is that it? 369 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:51.079 Well, I think for longer than that. 370 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:54.920 According to one form post I found, and I don't 371 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.240 have hard evidence of this, but I did find one 372 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:01.799 post from twenty twelve all that seems like they know 373 00:23:01.839 --> 00:23:04.720 what they're talking about, where they're talking about how Fresco 374 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:07.799 was actually being considered to take over the project after 375 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:13.160 the death of Howard Scott so and also there's other 376 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:18.359 people who are according to according to that post, and 377 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.559 as well as according to other stuff I've found, there's 378 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.119 other members of Technocracy and who ended up participating in 379 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:27.039 the Venus Project. 380 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:31.519 Okay, okay, so you have so you've got the Technocracy 381 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:35.680 Incorporated around the thirties. Jacques Vesco is a part of it. 382 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:42.119 It's just and then he he splits, right, he splits 383 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:45.680 from Technocracy Incorporated, and he starts the Venus Project back 384 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:47.480 in the thirties or forties? Is that on? 385 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:51.000 No, he starts the Venus Project in the nineties. So 386 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:52.000 the problem, the. 387 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.039 Difficulty with this too is there's a huge expanse of 388 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.920 kind of like empty time, yeah, where we don't really 389 00:23:57.960 --> 00:23:58.839 know what was going on. 390 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:06.119 What was what was Presco doing professionally for all those years? 391 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:07.400 What what what was he doing? 392 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:13.599 He's like an architect and like Himnist partner Roxanne Meadows, 393 00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.400 they're both architects, I think, and they did like contract 394 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:18.759 like architecture work. 395 00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:20.599 Okay, I think they like. 396 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:24.359 Kind of like invented and sold designs for some stuff. 397 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:29.960 Maybe sure, I'm assuming that I remember all of the 398 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:36.079 weird vision drawings of what the perfect society was going 399 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:40.039 to be in Zeitgeist attendum. I just imagine Fresco they're 400 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.880 making those or certainly putting a part in that. So 401 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:47.839 I don't know the architecture. Futuristic architecture played a big 402 00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:49.440 part in those visuals. 403 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:49.960 I remember. 404 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:54.279 Well, yeah, and so it's clearly that must come from Buckminster. 405 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:59.200 Fuller, right, Okay, Yeah, I know about mister fuller. Sure, sure, 406 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:01.480 geodesic dome. 407 00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.119 Yeah, because fresco stuff doesn't look exactly like that, but 408 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:06.400 it's like the same kind of thing. 409 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:14.359 Yeah, futurism, cybernetics, right, testing this that sort of thing. Yeah. 410 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:15.960 I mean when you look. 411 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:22.240 At the recent twenty twenty moving by Peter Joseph, which 412 00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:26.880 is called inter Reflections that I just watched, it's talking 413 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:31.799 about like how to like stabilize the capitalist system. Basically, 414 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.160 it's kind of weird because he's really presenting it as 415 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:39.519 like an anti capitalist thing, yes, but he's also talking 416 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:44.119 in terms of like cybernetic like systems theory and like 417 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:46.960 the fact that we need to like stabilize the system 418 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:52.920 of like the resource consumption, which is like neither of 419 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:55.440 those are like that's not necessarily a bad thing, but 420 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:59.000 it is kind of like an like I kind of 421 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.680 doing this stuff as like an alternate form of like 422 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:06.640 anti capitalism, where it's kind of like presenting itself as 423 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.839 like wanting to destroy the system, but at the same 424 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.759 time it's actually like a set of techniques of stabilizing 425 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:16.039 this system. Because that's like what the cybernetics stuff is 426 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.079 developed during the Cold War as a means of stabilizing 427 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:23.400 the capitalist system so that it doesn't end up in 428 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:27.240 like a communist revolution, like that is what the cybernetics 429 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:27.960 people were doing. 430 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:32.480 Okay, So it's it's. 431 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:36.839 Like all that stuff is kind of chuxtaposed and supposed 432 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.079 to be like presented as the same thing in this 433 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:43.400 sort of group of movements that Zeigeist is a part 434 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:47.200 of that are supposed to be like anti capitalist, but 435 00:26:47.519 --> 00:26:52.000 also not like actually like Marxist or anything. 436 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:56.839 So I find it's fascinating because it's philosophically schizophrenic, which 437 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:01.079 ties directly into conspiracy culture, because if you're talking about 438 00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.640 conspiracy world, yeah, that's what you're dealing with. You're you're 439 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.400 like all over the place. It's like, wait, mine, what 440 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:07.319 do we believe here? 441 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.039 What's the letter? 442 00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.000 Where are we being led? What's going on here? Yeah? 443 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:19.400 So it tracks right well yeah, oh okay, so we've 444 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.640 we've dealt with technocracy Incorporated Jacques Fresco. Fresco, he breaks 445 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.200 off and then he ends up with this Venus Project stuff. 446 00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:33.480 There's new Age ideas, there's lefty sort of ideas, but 447 00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:37.839 there's also this new economic cybernetic system that we're promoting, 448 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.920 and clearly the Zekeeist movement was about that. Do we 449 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.039 want to talk at all about the anonymous movement if 450 00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:49.920 we're talking about technology and the use of Internet, let's just. 451 00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.640 Run all the way up to Q and on I'll 452 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.200 do okay, all right, let's do it. Okay. 453 00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.720 So the Venus Project and Zekeeist workind of like blowing 454 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:04.599 up in Well, it must have been before Occupy really 455 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.519 because they were big and like when was like I said, 456 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:12.200 end them, like two thousand and eight. I think that 457 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.960 it was before twenty eleven because moving Forward was in 458 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:19.519 twenty eleven. So and actually that is an interesting fact 459 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.559 is that some of this stuff was going on just 460 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.599 in the years just leading. 461 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:27.720 Up to Occupy. Okay, in twenty ten. 462 00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.680 Is when sort of the anonymous hacking stuff started to 463 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:39.000 pick up and wiki leaks over twenty ten and twenty 464 00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:44.799 eleven was all these like activist attacks in defensive wiki 465 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.160 leaks on the part of anonymous and Lowell sec. 466 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:49.359 You know that. 467 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.720 So occupied, Yeah, the idea of white hat hackers, right, 468 00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.279 like that the hackers are the good guys. 469 00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.039 Well, I don't even think these were these would be 470 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.559 considered white hat. I think they would still be maybe 471 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.799 cret had white hat or like when they're working for 472 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:07.960 the security industry. 473 00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.240 Yes, you're right, you're right, you got me there, Yeah, 474 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.720 I was just yep. So these are the these are 475 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:18.400 the outlaw rogue guys that coming from the grassroots that 476 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.519 they're going to fix the system, and the white hat 477 00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:23.000 would be yeah, the guys that were recruited by the 478 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:24.160 system itself got it. 479 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.319 Yeah, And actually a lot of this stuff comes well, 480 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.640 at least it kind of comes from the actual distinction 481 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:33.440 between the white hat and the black hat thing, which 482 00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:38.200 happened as the internet security industry was developing, and like 483 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:43.519 the some of the hackers felt that, like the other 484 00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:45.720 ones shouldn't be selling out and so that they should 485 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:50.640 like sort of become insurgent basically, and these ones were 486 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:51.960 allied with anonymous. 487 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.640 Yeah, this is fascinating because it's kind of like the backstory. 488 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.119 And sure surely there was message board upon message board 489 00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:01.480 where they're debating all this stuff, right like who hackers, 490 00:30:01.519 --> 00:30:03.039 like what's going. 491 00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.160 Yea, what groups and all this on IRC and like 492 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:13.960 hacker eazines and the hacker conventions and that stuff is 493 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:20.480 all very closely tied with the early anonymous stuff. So anyways, 494 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:25.720 occupy what happened in late twenty eleven. Now, in mid 495 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:30.720 twenty eleven, there was a website for the Anonymous Movement, which, 496 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.599 of course there's no such thing as like an official 497 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.440 anonymous website, but this was supposed to be a website 498 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.720 for the anonymous movement and it was called what is 499 00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.200 dash Theeplan dot org. You can find that on the 500 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:48.359 Wayback Machine. And this was about something that they called 501 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:54.480 the Plan, which was a three stage plan, the actual 502 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:58.160 content of which was not very clear, but it was 503 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:03.839 some kind of like leaderless anonymous activist thing that was 504 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:10.519 going to like enlighten everybody basically. And the thing is 505 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.559 that's what ended up becoming the Plan in QAnon. 506 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.599 Ah, yeah, trust to the Plan. So even the same 507 00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:21.319 verbiage once again, it translates and it continues onward. We're 508 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.000 using the same terminology. 509 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.200 Yes, And so the connection to the Venus Project is 510 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.279 that there was a lot of discussion of the Venus 511 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.799 Project on this site, and the Venus Project actually has 512 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.000 a page where they had discussed a quote the Plan 513 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.400 where they use the header what is the Plan? They 514 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:44.400 present a plan which is formatted in the exact same 515 00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:48.319 manner where it says Phase one phase two, phase three, 516 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:50.440 but the actual content is different. 517 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:54.240 But if you actually look at these pages, I feel 518 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:59.839 like you'll agree that there has to be some common okay. 519 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.480 And this was in twenty eleven that of the Anonymous 520 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.880 what Is the Planned site comes out? Was was the 521 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.960 Venus Project site at the same time or the. 522 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:12.759 Venus Project had that content on it as early as 523 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:14.000 like the mid two thousands. 524 00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.039 Oh okay, so they would have predated Anonymous. 525 00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:21.799 Okay, well, I mean Anonymous itself goes back in different 526 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:27.400 incarnations as well. So the specific importance of this what 527 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.839 Is the Plan is that it's a predecessor to QAnon 528 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.640 and it connects to the Venus Project. 529 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.000 What is what Is the Plan? Is a message board site? 530 00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.440 Is that correct? That's what it is? 531 00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:41.200 Yes? 532 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:45.400 Okay, no, there you go, there's there's that. So it 533 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.359 is the same format as qnon it's a message board. 534 00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.079 Well yeah, it's a different kind of message board. But 535 00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:58.720 there was content on that site which is extremely disturbing 536 00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:02.720 and a cult kind of like game, sort of like 537 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:08.559 what they call an alternate reality game. And this this content, 538 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:15.160 if you examine it, and if you examine the QAnon memes, 539 00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:18.160 you know they use the same idea of the plan. 540 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.720 They use the same idea of meme magic. They're talking 541 00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:29.039 about teaching anonymous to engage in chaos magic to I 542 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.440 guess to sort of like again enlighten people in some 543 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:34.039 vague way. 544 00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:37.880 Yes, And I'll just say, Chuck, I saw your message, 545 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:39.680 and answer is yes, you can jump in here if 546 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.000 you care too. Great. 547 00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:44.680 I appreciate that, Aaron, because I wanted to ask your 548 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.200 guests about something because I got into this, you know, 549 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:52.599 Zeitgeist thing some years back, and I thought. 550 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.720 It was a great idea. And then I saw the 551 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.720 Jacques Fresco thing and I said. 552 00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:00.960 Hmm, you know, like I understand the efficiency scientific nature 553 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.920 of it, and I absolutely agree that there's enough resources 554 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.200 on the planet actually for everyone, whether we know it 555 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:11.440 or not. And it's all about scarcity. It's a controlled scarcity. 556 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.880 This is how we are literally manipulated society to society. 557 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.719 And I thought that was an excellent and perfect observation. 558 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:23.960 But I started to see the managed cities and everything else, 559 00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:27.159 and I said, well, there's kind of a use for that. 560 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.079 And then I went to the Zeitgeist site and I 561 00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.960 went to the Menis Project site and I. 562 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:37.039 Joined So here's the thing. I'm not a typical follower, 563 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:39.920 but I joined to explore and see what it was. 564 00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:42.360 I didn't see chaos magic. 565 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.159 I didn't see a lot of stuff going on back 566 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:48.400 in twenty let's say. 567 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.760 Two thousand and nine to twenty twelve. But it got weird. 568 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:56.480 And then there was this whole thing about Jack Fresco. 569 00:34:56.599 --> 00:34:59.920 Maybe he's dead, maybe he's not, you know, Jack Fresco, 570 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:01.639 Jack Prescott, whatever you want to call him. 571 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.840 Well, I mean, he was like one hundred years old 572 00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.599 at some point, so I'm pretty sure he died like 573 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:10.679 around like when they said he did. 574 00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:13.039 He couldn't possibly live much longer. 575 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.960 And I knew Jordan Maxwell, and so Daron. You know, 576 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:18.960 to some degree, we. 577 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.480 Both you know, we weren't like his best buddies or anything. Well, 578 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:25.639 he was angry at the Zeitgeist people. Let's be honest, 579 00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.400 because although they spread his message quite a bit in parts, 580 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:33.599 they also adopted a lot of things from them, used footage, 581 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.280 all kinds of stuff, and just like a whole lot 582 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.159 of other people out there on the Internet, didn't pay him. 583 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.079 They used footage from Aaron. 584 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:44.840 No, No, okay, I'm saying that Aaron and I both knew 585 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.039 Jordan on some level, That's all I'm saying. 586 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:49.280 And I worked with Jordan quite a while. I did 587 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.000 that Dogmatic Theology series a lot of people have seen. 588 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.079 It's one of the longest series ever done with him. 589 00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.599 The point is, and I was friendly with him personally, 590 00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.920 but but not you know, it wasn't a close friends 591 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.480 but he was angry about that whole thing. And there 592 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:06.920 was a whole weird dimension to how there was a 593 00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:12.280 lot of other people's work hijacked, and at some point 594 00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.719 there was esoteric people that came in there. So my 595 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.920 question for you is, was there a time period when 596 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:22.679 this was not as nefarious as it's starting to sound 597 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.400 coming from you, and it transitioned into this other thing 598 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:31.119 that was opportunistic and weird because it got it started 599 00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.719 to get very weird for people trying to interact with 600 00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.440 me from the Venus Project website, and I personally walked 601 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:38.840 away from it because of it. 602 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.639 But that's like twenty thirteen. 603 00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:44.039 When I said, you know what, no more. I don't 604 00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:46.000 want to know nothing from you people at all. I 605 00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.360 liked the movie still, but you can keep this. Was 606 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.000 it around then or was it before then? 607 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.079 Or was it always there? 608 00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.920 Well, first of all, I would be curious to know 609 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.519 more about what was going on with them around twenty 610 00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.519 thirteen and twenty fourteen, because at that point you're starting 611 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.000 to lead into sort of modern Trump QAnon era. 612 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.320 But as to your question, I would say, no, there 613 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:10.679 was no point at which it. 614 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:16.320 Was less weird, because if Venus Project comes from Technocracy, Inc. 615 00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:20.440 Then then that's where it came from. That and Technocracy Inc. 616 00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:24.880 Is any less weird as far as the actual ideas 617 00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.280 seeming to be plausible. I mean, the way I would 618 00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:34.400 address that is that it's kind of a fundamental political 619 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.960 problem that the distribution of resources is. You know that 620 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:44.079 there's scarcity. I wouldn't say it's artificial scarcity, though, it's 621 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:49.360 an absolute, real scarcity, and the solution to that is 622 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:54.480 pretty much the entire purpose of politics and economics. So 623 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.320 when you see something like Zeitgeist or the Venus Project 624 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:03.280 where they're presenting basically nothing other than images of a 625 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:09.760 utopia that is almost having nothing to do with any 626 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.719 solution to the problem. The problem is solved with politics 627 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:17.239 and economics, and the Venus Project their model was beyond politics, 628 00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:18.039 poverty and war. 629 00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:19.159 They think that. 630 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.920 Politics itself is pointless and so the reason why it's 631 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.960 weird is completely tied up with the fact that they 632 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:29.039 presented in that manner, even though some of the things 633 00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:33.679 they say, of course are true, and that there's exploitation 634 00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:37.719 in the system, and even I'm not even trying to 635 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.840 say that that the fact that I view it as 636 00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:43.719 a kind of like bizarro version of like Marxism or 637 00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:47.440 something doesn't mean that I even think that Marxism would 638 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.960 be like better, because we know that communist societies have 639 00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:56.920 also been just as bad in that respect. So still 640 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.199 with this kind of it's kind of utopian thing where 641 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:03.199 they just present the solution, or maybe they just present 642 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.400 the problem and then they just present what the. 643 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.000 Solution would look like after it was. 644 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.320 Solved, but they don't actually deal with what would be 645 00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:14.119 the actual process of solving it, and that is kind 646 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:15.440 of why it is weird. 647 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.840 Well, here's the funny thing to me, I'm just gonna 648 00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:18.800 say this and I'm gonna get off. 649 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.400 I don't want to take up any more of your time. 650 00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:22.599 But this is the beautiful thing to me. 651 00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.679 I totally oppose what you say about the resources and 652 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.440 totally agree with the idea of that being the solution 653 00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.119 is redistribution and reimagining of the system. But here's the 654 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.119 thing I felt apart from it, not just because of 655 00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.400 the weirdness, but because of the lack of Okay, how 656 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:47.760 do you go from the current predatory system to this? 657 00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.440 And that was my question on the hopeful side, thinking, see, 658 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.440 I'm not somebody who is all enamored with capitalism necessarily. 659 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.000 I'm not somebody who's enamored with the current system. 660 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:03.079 I'm not a qa non guy. I'm a weird, weird 661 00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:03.880 one here, okay. 662 00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:08.119 And the thing is, I'd love to see the redistribution. 663 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:11.519 I believe it's possible, and I do believe that scarcity 664 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:13.960 is artificially manufactured. 665 00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:14.039 And manipulate it. 666 00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.079 So, but yet you and I are coming to the 667 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.599 same problem here. It seems like where it's like, Okay, 668 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:22.000 that's great, here's your problem. 669 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.760 Sure we'll agree in some part on that, here's your solution. 670 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:27.199 Let's just say I buy that. 671 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.119 Where's your bridge between the two? And that was my 672 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.079 issue with even the people inside the Penis project, was like, 673 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.280 you don't have that, do you, No matter what you 674 00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:41.000 show on a film, and that's great and that feels good, you. 675 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.920 Don't have that, And I wanted it. 676 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.039 You know, you might be averse to it. I was 677 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.920 friendly to it. And still we have the same problem where. 678 00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:51.599 You know, it's like, don't worry. The end of the 679 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:57.000 world's coming. Okay, yeah eventually, you know, but yeah, you 680 00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:57.639 know what I'm saying. 681 00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.920 So anyway, I just I wonder what you think about 682 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.119 that that somebody who might have a completely different world 683 00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.119 view still saw the same issue I think with the 684 00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.320 bridge between problem and solution. 685 00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.679 Where's you real I'm not sure that we really do 686 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:13.960 have a different worldview. 687 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.800 Okay, maybe not. It just sounded like that to me. 688 00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:17.480 I'm sorry, but. 689 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.280 That's anyway, I'll shut up. Thank you Aaron for allowing 690 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.159 me to get in there. But it's just you have 691 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:25.119 a guest here that personally hits something that I do 692 00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:26.079 know a little bit about. 693 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.159 Was in on for a minute, and well they for 694 00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:30.280 different jerasons, I think. 695 00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.679 But some videos of. 696 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:40.079 Like, uh, just drama related to the Venus Project that 697 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.280 I have to watch. That's just like from people who 698 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.360 are arguing about like stuff that was going on inside it. 699 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.519 So that stuff is very interesting. 700 00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.920 Sure, that's I will say, that's with any of this 701 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:53.159 sort of thing. You got that, but that's the sort 702 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.840 of stuff you never hear as well. And yeah, I'm 703 00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:01.760 sure that's fascinating, but yeah, this this is I'll just 704 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.840 briefly speak to it as well. It just seemed absolutely insane. 705 00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:08.199 It's like, okay, you did present the problem. Now the 706 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:12.239 solution is the things that me personally am very skeptical of, 707 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:16.920 like this high technology and this beard a literal technocracy. 708 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.159 We're supposed to make that and we're going to live 709 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.199 in this weird transhumanist automated society that's somehow going to 710 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:27.840 give us everything and expect nothing from us. It's like, yeah, okay, well, 711 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.360 how's that going to appear? It's not. 712 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:36.719 But anyway, well, I think it's very difficult because the 713 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:40.440 kind of solutions that are proposed there, Like I mean, 714 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.960 I don't think that they're really supposed to be serious solutions. 715 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.280 They're serving a function in discourse, and in order to 716 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.960 understand what function they're serving, we have to understand who's behind. 717 00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.159 It, basically on some basic level. 718 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.079 Yes, and I think that the answer to that is 719 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:02.280 very complex because of the fact that it's sort of 720 00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:06.039 intertwined with the history of the Cold War, and we 721 00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:10.239 go all the way back to stuff like social credit 722 00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.800 and technocracy, Inc. Which seemed to perhaps start as some 723 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.840 kind of syop after the Bolshevik Revolution to present a 724 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.760 kind of like other kind of socialism that and then 725 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:27.760 we get through the Cold War. This stuff is used 726 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.880 by the American government. This is why you see these 727 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:36.239 same kind of like mystical ideas around, like even stuff 728 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.880 like then the hippie culture and all that, like weird. 729 00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:39.920 Scenes in the canyon stuff. 730 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:43.960 Yes, and then in our time we see it as 731 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.400 Russian propaganda again because I guess after the Cold War ended, 732 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:56.039 Russia's no longer socialist, perhaps they re attached themselves to 733 00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.760 some of these mystical movements, and then now they're the 734 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:03.519 ones presenting the new world again, because the liberal world 735 00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.719 is the old world and the sort of bricks like 736 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.480 Alexander Dugan world is like the new world now or 737 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:10.639 the New Age or whatever. 738 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:17.000 Yes, it is. It's fascinating to me to see that 739 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:21.199 we're dealing Quite to me, it's obvious that we're dealing 740 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:26.440 with a propaganda psychological war. You're describing that. If we're 741 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.119 really paying attention to this, you can go back decades, decades, 742 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.920 a century, and it's the same story. There's the same connections. 743 00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:37.320 There's this weird East West thing going on also fascinating. 744 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:38.639 Yeah, that's absolutely. 745 00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.280 I mean when you look at these types of occultism 746 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:46.559 like Madam Bleovatski and Kerjief and all this stuff, they're 747 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.760 totally concerned with like the Europe and Europe's ideas about 748 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.679 the East and the Russian question of whether Russia is 749 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.199 going to be part of Europe or whether like there's 750 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:00.800 some kind of like superior Eastern like look that's like 751 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:04.199 more mystical and stuff. And then even the Nazis like 752 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.440 incorporated some of that where it's like they were looking 753 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.599 towards the East, and then like the Hipbies did the 754 00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:14.000 same thing, and then you had the actual Easterned Communists, 755 00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:17.960 so then that turned everything upside down. So but yeah, 756 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.679 it's absolutely some kind of like East West thing. And 757 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.480 now today you've got Alexander Dugan. 758 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:29.280 So, yes, Dugan. And what's Dugan's affiliation with the Orthodox Church? 759 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.159 Was he officially affiliated with him or is he just 760 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:36.360 advocating for it as like the greatest religion ever. I'm 761 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.599 not sure what that is. I don't really know for sure. Yeah, 762 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.960 I felt like he was almost like a bishop or something. 763 00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.119 But that doesn't say I can't think so I'm not 764 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.480 gonna yeah right, He's just kind of saying, like, yeah, 765 00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:51.480 Eastern Orthodox this is the way, and look at corrupt 766 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.840 Western look at the destruction of Western civilization. If they 767 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.000 were only more like us and are awesome Eastern Orthodox Church, 768 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.199 then you know they won't be falling into decadence and 769 00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.480 destroying themselves. But you know, yep, and there was a thing. 770 00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.760 There's a thing I saw that said Elon Musk had 771 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.519 some like family members who were involved in like Russian 772 00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.880 monarchist organizations. 773 00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:17.039 I don't know. 774 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.239 That might have been like completely fake, but that would 775 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:25.400 also be interesting because the whole technocracy thing, the aside 776 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:27.360 from everything else that I've been talking about, is the 777 00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.679 connection to Elon Musk and the fact that Musk seems 778 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.559 to be enacting parts of technocracy even though he might 779 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.440 be out of power or something, but he'll be back anyway. 780 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.119 Musk reminds me of the guy who set up was 781 00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.480 it the guy which which one of them that you're 782 00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:48.119 starting at the very beginning? Was it the social credit guy? 783 00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:51.320 That was this guy pretending he was a German. 784 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.679 He was a guy who set up technocracy and Coward Scott. Yeah, 785 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.760 and Musk does seem like that guy, like he's yeah, 786 00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.960 supposedly he's like actually a real engineer, but like it 787 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.480 seems like that might be kind of questionable whether Elon 788 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:10.320 Musk is actually an engineer or not, or even like 789 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:14.320 whether his great companies and inventions have actually. 790 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:18.480 Been like legitimate, like or I don't know. 791 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:21.519 Well, I think it's obvious with Musk is that he's 792 00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.639 a guy that's taking credit for all of this stuff 793 00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:27.480 that he absolutely himself had nothing really to do with 794 00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.800 creating it, but he wants you and his public image 795 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:34.199 requires that you believe that he did. 796 00:47:35.559 --> 00:47:36.480 Yeah, and if. 797 00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.559 You look at it, if you look at. 798 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:40.000 Musk, and like. 799 00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:43.800 Right now, it's it might be hard to imagine that 800 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:46.440 something like the Venus Project would be connected to Elon 801 00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:49.320 Musk because like he's considered to be a right wing 802 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.039 libertarian and the Venus Project is supposed to be like 803 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:54.679 some kind of utopian leftist thing. 804 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:57.760 But Elon Musk when he first came out was. 805 00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.320 Much more in that like image of like an environmentalist, 806 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.480 and he was producing his cars that were going to 807 00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:08.840 be like flying cars or whatever. Just imagine, like look 808 00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:11.159 at the designs of the Tesla stuff and then look 809 00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.199 at like Jack Fresco's paintings and stuff. 810 00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:15.800 It's like the same image. 811 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:20.440 Yeah, it's techno utopian. It's a techno utopian and left 812 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:27.960 leaning egalitarian idealist concept. Is what absolutely Elon Musk gross 813 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.920 a prominence for that. Well with that, and you. 814 00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.280 Got money for that from the government, I guess. 815 00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:37.960 Okay, from the US government in the early days. 816 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:41.000 Is that what we got subsidies right for all the 817 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:41.960 green stuff? 818 00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:43.199 So yep. 819 00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.960 So I don't know if that could possibly be inorganic. 820 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:51.840 I mean, it doesn't seem like that would be like 821 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.960 a conspiracy, But it's also kind of hard to imagine 822 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.360 how that could happen anyway, that you could make all 823 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.960 this money by like not actually producing anything just because 824 00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.519 of energy subsidies. 825 00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.880 Yeah. Sure, Well it's all about the big government contracts 826 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.159 for him, as they're saying, it always has been, definitely 827 00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.719 is now that's why he's all in on the current administration, 828 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:17.400 which we haven't even touched on this yet, but the 829 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.400 whole time in with the current Trump regime is that 830 00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:24.519 it rose to prominence out of this weird internet countercultural 831 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.320 stew Is that generally correct? 832 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.679 Do you agree with that, why, absolutely, Well, in order 833 00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:33.920 to get to that, we got to talk about wiki leaks. 834 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:38.559 Okay, because I'm gonna stop you there, not because I 835 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:40.400 don't want to hear this, but I will just mention 836 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:44.000 that we're getting toward the end of the show, but 837 00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:46.760 we're not there yet. We still have probably like ten minutes, 838 00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:50.079 so we're gonna keep going. But I will say before 839 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:52.159 we going further, like, I would love to have you 840 00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:53.920 back on the show, and because I know we're only 841 00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:55.440 gonna get so far as it's gonna be how it 842 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.159 is today, are you open to coming back on the 843 00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.599 show another time and continuing a conversation. Yeah, okay, so 844 00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:06.639 we'll just tentatively plan that. But I'm sorry, I didn't 845 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.760 mean stop you continue as you are. 846 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.320 Well, I'm not sure how I should describe it, because 847 00:50:11.320 --> 00:50:14.079 I don't think I have enough time, but I was 848 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.519 just gonna say WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks is also connected to all this. 849 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:21.599 Sure, okay, so yeah, how do they fit into this scheme? 850 00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:29.719 Well, again, it's it's hard to describe. 851 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:32.920 I mean, only back to twenty eleven. 852 00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.920 That was the first year when WikiLeaks was big, was 853 00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:37.800 like twenty ten or twenty eleven. 854 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:40.519 Okay, that same general time period that we're talking about 855 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.840 with that what the plan stuff was popping. 856 00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:47.119 Up then, right, Yeah, an anonymous was hacking people on 857 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:48.360 behalf of Wiki leaks. 858 00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:52.079 Okay, so we're back there. We're back in the online 859 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.400 hacker sphere. Yeah, so we're back there again. At the 860 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.000 same period of time, no less. 861 00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:04.920 Twenty sixteen, Wiki Leaks releases the Podesta emails, and this 862 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:08.440 content from those leaks is used to create the piece 863 00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:09.400 of gate conspiracy. 864 00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:12.400 Okay, and that stuff. 865 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.280 I would say that stuff pushed Trump over the finish 866 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:16.400 line in twenty sixteen. 867 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:19.840 It's plausible. 868 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:24.239 It definitely helped. I agree with you one hundred percent 869 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:28.719 that it absolutely was a part of his clandestine messaging. 870 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.880 That's the weird thing with this, too, is that a 871 00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.599 president can rise to prominence on these ideas and sort 872 00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:41.519 of there's this weird plausible deniability where he's still mainstream, 873 00:51:41.599 --> 00:51:44.400 he's a president, but he absolutely is exploiting all this 874 00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.880 countercultural stuff at the same time. Fascinating. 875 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:56.239 Yeah, well, I could describe the connection in my article. 876 00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.239 I would say you got to just read my article 877 00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:02.039 on WikiLeaks for that. It's called the WikiLeaks, the Magic Mirror, 878 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.880 and the abyss at medium dot com, slash at y 879 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:11.119 h L Y two F. I will say that on 880 00:52:11.199 --> 00:52:15.599 October thirtieth of twenty sixteen, WikiLeaks posts this message about 881 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:24.039 quote unquote phase three and that they're going to do something. However, 882 00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.400 it's never clear what they're talking about, and it never happens. However, 883 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:34.679 I believe that that message connects to the rest of 884 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:35.239 this stuff. 885 00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:38.920 So it connects. So I before that, what is the plan? 886 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:40.880 Had the phases? The three phases? Right? 887 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:41.199 Yeah? 888 00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:44.840 That had the same thing, Okay, I think that, and 889 00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.840 it was used in other anonymous movements as well. 890 00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:50.199 Got it, and wiki leaks up to this point had 891 00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:52.679 not even referenced any phase one or two. They just 892 00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:53.960 know say phase three. 893 00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:56.159 Is that what I think they may or may not 894 00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:57.159 have I'm not sure? 895 00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:02.039 Okay, Well, nonetheless, I mean it's the same verbiage as 896 00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:05.639 we keep talking about, which is I think relevant and interesting. 897 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.679 Wikili's also did other stuff to further the seth Rich conspiracy, 898 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.239 which has connections into all of this. If you look 899 00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:16.440 at the people who are promoting the seth Rich I 900 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.280 mean people like do you remember like George Webb and 901 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:20.480 Jason Goodman. 902 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.920 I know the names by honestly can't remember who they are. 903 00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:28.400 There's so many people who just appeared during that time period, 904 00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:33.440 and now that it's actually become history, there's so much 905 00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:35.920 about like weird stuff that went on with those people. 906 00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:54.480 Okay, such as do you have anything quick, I'll. 907 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:48.840 Just say read my article? 908 00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:58.239 Okay, very fair, very fair. Okay, so this I've look again, 909 00:53:58.280 --> 00:53:59.800 we're towards the end of the show, so I think 910 00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:01.599 what we're going to do is just start wrapping up. 911 00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:04.440 I'm very happy to say that you're open to coming 912 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:06.280 back on the show. I definitely want to do this. 913 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.000 I'm going to also let listeners know once again, I'm 914 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.840 going to link your material on at the Age of Transitions, 915 00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.920 so the links will be to that and very much 916 00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:20.199 encourage them to read your stuff. We haven't even got 917 00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.599 into that trielectics business either. We'll do that at a 918 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.920 later date. Just a quick question on triealectics. Is that 919 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.960 something you found that's not something that's not something you 920 00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:32.280 developed yourself? Is it that something you came across? Right? 921 00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:36.079 No, well, I mean it's pretty much something that I 922 00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:37.000 developed myself. 923 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.400 Really, so that's like an ontology that you created, that 924 00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:40.880 whole thing. 925 00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:46.639 Yeah, I mean, there's inspirations of it, but as the 926 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:51.239 authorship of it would be, it's original. 927 00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:51.440 All right. 928 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:56.239 I was looking. I looked at that, and you're mentioning 929 00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.880 how it had connections to alchemy. I absolutely see that, 930 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.920 and we'll get into that another time too. I'm impressed 931 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:07.280 by that. I want to really thank you for coming 932 00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:11.079 on the show tonight. Man. You're you're you're like you're 933 00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.119 like a kindred spirit. Man. I really enjoyed talking to you. 934 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:16.519 I'm really glad this is one. 935 00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:18.000 Of the best plays I could have come on to 936 00:55:18.039 --> 00:55:21.920 talk about this because you're familiar with the stuff, but 937 00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:25.440 you're also add enough of a distance from it. Because 938 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:27.760 there's so many people who are sort of in the 939 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.719 Truther scene but that actually did get sucked into this stuff. Yes, 940 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:35.760 and now like some of them are still around, but 941 00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.840 they're still like affected by the fact that they were 942 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:39.760 sucked into all this. 943 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:45.440 That's another thing that I see as like almost I 944 00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.519 don't want to say a sickness or disease, but it's 945 00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.199 something going on that like really rubs me the wrong way. 946 00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.320 It's like, there's so many people that have been involved 947 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.440 in this and I have, but I've purposely removed myself. 948 00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:57.519 I don't want to be a part of any of 949 00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:58.440 that because I can see it. 950 00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:00.840 Was the thing to do. 951 00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:06.880 Yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, Yeah, that's so again. I 952 00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.519 like we're on the same page here. I had a 953 00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:12.559 lot of fun on the show. We're going to continue this. 954 00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.480 There's a lot to talk about. It's huge where I 955 00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.000 don't know how much we're gonna get to the bottom 956 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:21.440 of what, but we're gonna do what we can. 957 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:23.719 Yeah, we didn't focus on something. 958 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:26.760 Yeah, yeah, we will. Well, when we come into the 959 00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.079 next show, we'll start out with whether it be trialactics 960 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.519 or wiki leaks or whatever the topic may be. We'll 961 00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:36.960 we'll start from there and we'll go from there. But tonight, 962 00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:38.559 would you want to stand for the Uncle Show? Do 963 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:43.280 you want to get going? You'll stay? Okay, awesome, all right, 964 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.760 so stay on the line and and yeah, we'll just 965 00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:48.760 kick our feetback and relax and kind of goof around 966 00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.239 with the Uncle Show. Thank you. That's gonna be awesome. 967 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.719 And then before we do that, why don't you just 968 00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:58.760 once again, I'm gonna give you the links, But once again, 969 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:03.360 where is the place where we can find your writings? 970 00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.960 It's a medium dot com slash at y h L 971 00:57:08.119 --> 00:57:11.079 Y two F or you can just search for untold 972 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:12.599 Q and on origins. 973 00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.840 All right, awesome, thank you very much. Why I'll be 974 00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.360 talking to you in your minutes when we start the 975 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:20.679 Uncle Show. I'm going to have you back on this. 976 00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:24.920 Thank you everybody for listening to this. This is the 977 00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.840 Age of Transitions, live on the U Chili Radio Network 978 00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.920 on a Friday night, The Age of Transitions. Dot Com 979 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.400 is my website. My name is Ann Franz. As always, 980 00:57:34.440 --> 00:58:23.880 I will leave you by saying seeker. 981 00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:11.519 Put hey, yeah, hey weyeh hey we yeah? Hey do 982 00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:11.960 we got? 983 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:13.480 Hey? I do we go? Hey? 984 00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.159 Manu we go? 985 00:58:14.440 --> 00:58:15.320 Hey we go? 986 00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.719 Dot Com Radio Network. 987 00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:28.119 Revelation through conversation? Do you like history? Real history that 988 00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:32.000 you were never taught in schools? 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If we are not sister? 1014 01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:42.559 This is. 1015 01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:45.719 This is so. 1016 01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:55.599 Tis Nuclear holocaust. 1017 01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:57.039 You know what uranium is right? 1018 01:02:57.719 --> 01:03:01.159 Called nuclear weapons and other things like lots of what 1019 01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:05.079 uranium is right? Bad things things are done with uranium, 1020 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.920 including some bad things nuclear holocaust. 1021 01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:12.280 What uranium is right? I've been a nuclear holocaust. 1022 01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:13.199 Nuclear holocaust. 1023 01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:15.639 You know what uranium is right? There's things called. 1024 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.360 Nuclear weaponies and other things like lots of what uranium 1025 01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:23.239 is right. Things things have done with uranium, including some 1026 01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:24.039 bad things. 1027 01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:32.079 Nuclear holocaust, nuclear Holo Holocaust, Nuclear holocaust, nuclear holocaust, nuclear hollo. 1028 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:35.119 Uncle. Do you remember that time when Benjamin Fulford said 1029 01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.960 that an Asian secret society was going to dispatch Ninja's 1030 01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:42.840 to take down the illuminati. Oh that's interesting. Yeah in 1031 01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:46.280 the platoon. Yeah, did that ever work out too good? No? 1032 01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:50.639 It didn't, did it didn't? But here on o'chelly dot 1033 01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.159 com Radio network, things work out a bit better, don't 1034 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:54.159 they much better? 1035 01:03:55.079 --> 01:04:00.840 It's clear and understanding about the programs. The programs, how 1036 01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:05.719 much clearer getting live people into it. They really have 1037 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.559 a good conversation going watch better, much better scene. 1038 01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.039 I say, forget Benjamin Fulford and his ninches and listen 1039 01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:16.599 to the o'chelly dot com Radio Network. I agree. It's 1040 01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:20.280 straight to the point, straight talk, and I like that idea. 1041 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.119 Oh Chilly dot com, Oh Chili dot com. 1042 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:28.320 Hoy hooney, honyony hooney horny. 1043 01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:30.800 This is a Montase podcast. 1044 01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.920 Code wait code, wait on go wait here. Will pick 1045 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:38.480 up your hands your cellphones and hi me and listen 1046 01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:40.159 to I'll go to the podcast. 1047 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:41.880 Watch out. 1048 01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.719 If you're sitting down for this or if you're standing. 1049 01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.760 Up the better get ready for this because it's gonna 1050 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:53.480 hit the air drumsons. 1051 01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:56.639 I'll go the podcast. 1052 01:04:56.800 --> 01:05:02.039 Y are listening to you? Uncle? The broadcast? My name 1053 01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.480 is Eron Nephew lawa hear me is the start show? 1054 01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:08.079 Uncle and gentlemen, I believe this is three hundred and 1055 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:10.599 seventy four or seventy five. 1056 01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.239 I'm not sure, but hey, we am I believe we 1057 01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:18.199 haven't you know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you're you're right, uncle. 1058 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:21.760 It is three seventy four live on the hl Radio 1059 01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:24.119 network Friday night. As long as we are taking calls, 1060 01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:26.400 you may call in tonight and we do have a 1061 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:28.719 guess the number. Yeah, the number if you want to 1062 01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:31.199 call three one nine five two seven five ZII one 1063 01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:36.199 six and it's called on number. Hello. Why I believe 1064 01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:40.199 his name is and your on the E friend? What 1065 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:41.360 do we have to talk about? 1066 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:48.760 I don't know. Don't you guys have something? 1067 01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.159 Well? I will start by letting uncle know that. Previously 1068 01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.400 in Government Hour, my show, I interviewed Why. We had 1069 01:05:56.440 --> 01:06:02.360 a very long conversation about strange governmental craziness, and we 1070 01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:05.840 talked about you've never seen the zeitgeist films? Have your uncle? 1071 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:10.039 You don't know what zeitgeist is? I'm well, anyway, we're 1072 01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:15.199 talking about crazy stuff, basically, the the absolute peak of 1073 01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:16.480 conspiracy content. 1074 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:20.760 This kind of stuff. You know, it got as weird 1075 01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:22.119 as it could possibly get. 1076 01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:26.280 Yeah, So these are all things that I myself am 1077 01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.119 interested in, uncle, But why was nice enough to stick 1078 01:06:30.159 --> 01:06:31.880 around for your uncle show? And now we're all hanging out. 1079 01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:33.400 We're just having a good time. So this is like 1080 01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.320 the after show for Government Hour. We're in the green room. 1081 01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:40.320 Uncle's here, so we're just enjoying ourselves on a nice 1082 01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:41.000 Friday evening. 1083 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.039 Yeah, we can talk about anything we want to talk about. 1084 01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:51.599 So it's one of those things. Were got into this 1085 01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:56.360 baseball asked week. We did, we did, and I got 1086 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:01.760 show down missus sights side kick John. 1087 01:07:01.800 --> 01:07:06.159 I'm watching a baseball game. You got in trouble the 1088 01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:10.000 Mets and uh and Atlanta. 1089 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.679 Okay, just because it was I just wanted to hear it, 1090 01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:14.760 she says. 1091 01:07:15.119 --> 01:07:15.559 Did you know. 1092 01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.159 Kind of these things are happening? I can't watch the 1093 01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:24.760 sports draws? Well, I this on this on this stuff 1094 01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:29.840 that they got set up. It's ridiculous. It's a problem. 1095 01:07:30.119 --> 01:07:31.719 It is a big problem. But we might have been 1096 01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:34.360 getting charged to watch that game. Oh yeah, yeah, something 1097 01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:37.800 about it's not the old days anymore. Uncle, you don't 1098 01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:39.840 just turn on the TV and the baseball games. Now 1099 01:07:39.920 --> 01:07:43.159 you might be getting charged. Yeah, I see what happened. Yeah, okay, 1100 01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:43.519 you know. 1101 01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:48.360 Now you know now that that now we're used to 1102 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:52.920 do senery baseball. We get to watch something and then 1103 01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:57.440 all of a sudden, this time pay Okay, who's the 1104 01:07:57.599 --> 01:07:58.079 heck is. 1105 01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.880 Going along with the baseball? This is book. 1106 01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:04.559 It's not just baseball, uncle, Everything is now going to 1107 01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:06.840 You gotta pay us, You gotta pay us, you gotta pass. 1108 01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.280 I'm telling you that's why people like you and me, 1109 01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.280 if we want to check out a baseball game, we 1110 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:14.440 better just pull out our old radios, because. 1111 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:15.800 That's the only way we're gonna get it for free 1112 01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:18.359 is out of the air. You ain't get it. 1113 01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:18.800 I did. 1114 01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:19.720 I didn't. 1115 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:21.840 I didn't even he I didn't even know. 1116 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:27.279 My cousin tells me to watch the Mets play. Okay, 1117 01:08:27.479 --> 01:08:29.760 so I figured, well, I'm gonna go watch the Mets play. 1118 01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.800 And then I get shann an, you do this to 1119 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:33.319 do game? 1120 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:37.399 What is going on here? You signed taught to him? Man, 1121 01:08:37.399 --> 01:08:40.079 I'm gonna tell him, I can't see a baseball game anymore. 1122 01:08:40.239 --> 01:08:42.720 If you signed up that yeah, if you sign up 1123 01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:44.720 for the wrong baseball thing, uncle, that might be one 1124 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:48.399 hundred bucks. I mean, seriously, there's only that one game 1125 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:52.319 I wanted to see, I know, but you can't shown 1126 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.600 at one game. It sounds like one game. You never 1127 01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:57.760 know what you're committing to. That's the descriptions. 1128 01:08:58.159 --> 01:08:58.800 You buy one. 1129 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:02.000 Fill'll just go to our guests here. Now, why does 1130 01:09:02.039 --> 01:09:03.880 this make you think of anything? All these weird bi 1131 01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:07.119 like online you guys like that, got. 1132 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:09.880 Any opinions answers? Just go to the piracy website. 1133 01:09:10.239 --> 01:09:10.640 We'll see. 1134 01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:12.439 I try to do stuff like that, and I have 1135 01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.720 friends who helped me out on occasions, so I can 1136 01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:15.319 see things. 1137 01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:20.439 But maybe work I should be here. No, I hear 1138 01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:22.960 why are you there? You see now they don't hear us? 1139 01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:24.319 Why here anymore? 1140 01:09:24.520 --> 01:09:26.640 We are being heard. I'm not sure what happened here. 1141 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:30.439 I'm not going on with you. Why I didn't do anything. 1142 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:34.319 It's like, hold on, maybe can you hear you? Oh wait, 1143 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:36.439 I hear you. I hear you. I hear your chuck. Okay, 1144 01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:39.359 you're back. Yeah, you keep crazing, Aaron, you get I 1145 01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:40.319 hear you. I hear Aaron. 1146 01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.800 We were having a whole conversation me and why over here, 1147 01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.680 and you're you're able to talking over us because you 1148 01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.199 can't hear nothing. That's the second time you cut off 1149 01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:51.479 your tell sidekick to stop cutting off the headphones there, Uncle, 1150 01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:52.600 I couldn't. 1151 01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:55.520 Want his headphone. I mean the headphones they're off the headpone. 1152 01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.600 But whatever's doing here, don't turn off the headphones and 1153 01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:02.319 so on. It's how can you understand what's going on? 1154 01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:03.359 Goop turnings? 1155 01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.880 No, not not turn off the headphones. Stop turning off 1156 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:06.960 the headphones. 1157 01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:08.600 Uncle, Oh my god. 1158 01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:14.319 Okay, So back to where we were. Why even though 1159 01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:17.159 the listeners heard us, but you know, Aaron didn't and 1160 01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:18.960 neither did Uncle. But here's the thing. 1161 01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:21.760 We were just talking about this right with the subscriptions, 1162 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:24.039 and you said something, go ahead and repeat it. 1163 01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:28.960 I said, you should go to a piracy website. 1164 01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:34.880 Well, a lot of people are sharing Thro's streams now right, 1165 01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.319 And I have a couple of friends who have shared passwords, streams, 1166 01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.039 all kinds of stuff with me, and I'm happy for that. 1167 01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:43.840 Although nobody's gotten me. This Ozzy Osbourne concert that's going 1168 01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:45.720 to occur in a couple of days, I want to 1169 01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:49.920 see that. But you know, on the point, but now 1170 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:54.800 he's in the always else listen I was. 1171 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.319 I want to see the last performance. I want to 1172 01:10:57.359 --> 01:10:59.960 see the last performance of Black Sabbath. Yes, indeed, that's 1173 01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:01.399 my favorite band of all time. 1174 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:06.359 But it is like, I mean, I like watching rock 1175 01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:08.520 concerts that are on YouTube, but like there's so much 1176 01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:09.520 stuff that's on there. 1177 01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:15.720 Already that's just like on YouTube or archives. Yeah, but 1178 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:17.479 this isn't all Day I watched it. 1179 01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:20.039 This isn't All Day Music, and that they're charging thirty 1180 01:11:20.079 --> 01:11:22.039 bucks a pop for you to get the stream and 1181 01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:24.319 you can also buy the special T shirt for another 1182 01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:26.000 thirty She's not going to. 1183 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.439 Be good total, he was never good. 1184 01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:30.000 Well see now to. 1185 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:33.479 Me he was and Black Sabbath Water, you know, and 1186 01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:35.880 at least I know Iaomi can still play the guitar. 1187 01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:37.800 Geezer can still play the bass. Now I don't know 1188 01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:40.079 how what kind of shape of awards, and he's had 1189 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:42.560 a couple of heart attacks and as he's got the Parkinson's. 1190 01:11:43.079 --> 01:11:46.000 But still I want to see the last performance. 1191 01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:47.199 Of Black I understand. 1192 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.039 Plus there's going to be a super group there. Black 1193 01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.399 Label Society's playing, Metallica is playing. 1194 01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:53.960 There's a lot of hands, you know. 1195 01:11:54.600 --> 01:11:58.359 Oh yeah, you're like a rock musician, right, yeah, exactly, 1196 01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:00.479 I get it. 1197 01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:05.439 I've worn many hats in my life, sir. There you go, right, 1198 01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:08.319 But anyway, but the thing is back to this pay 1199 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.520 per view concept. Though, and how Uncle got in trouble. 1200 01:12:10.640 --> 01:12:10.760 Right. 1201 01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:12.560 The thing is Uncle. 1202 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:14.520 Doesn't realize that you could click on a thing. You 1203 01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:16.840 want to see one game, but you might wind up 1204 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:18.119 signing up for a hundred. 1205 01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:22.199 Bucks and you know one single game. Well, no, it's 1206 01:12:22.279 --> 01:12:25.600 not a single way to wait. The lingo here, the kickers, 1207 01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.359 what they're doing is, Uncle, they draw you in, see 1208 01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:30.359 you go there. You want to see one game, right, 1209 01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:32.239 so you sign up and go, yeah, I want to 1210 01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:34.279 see that game and you miss a click, or you 1211 01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:36.479 click on the wrong thing and you bought the whole 1212 01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:41.319 season and I didn't click ning. I just ton of televisions. 1213 01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.520 Give but Uncle, you don't listen. Uncle. This is similar 1214 01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:46.359 to you in your online games. You don't have you 1215 01:12:46.479 --> 01:12:49.079 in trouble with your online games? Were falling in your device, 1216 01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:51.239 You've got you gotten in lots of trouble with that. Right, 1217 01:12:51.720 --> 01:12:54.319 it's the same principle going on here. This These systems 1218 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.760 are designed to whip you off and take your money 1219 01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:58.880 from you. There're mind to do that. They're want to 1220 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:00.720 do that to anybody who Eddie. 1221 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.640 I hope Eddie don't call tonight. I'm gonna tell him 1222 01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:06.479 something nobody. He don't gonna watch their baseball games. But 1223 01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.119 hold on a minute, can watch them? 1224 01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:09.079 Hold on a minute. 1225 01:13:09.079 --> 01:13:11.920 Here's the problem, right, They design these systems, and maybe 1226 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:14.560 why I'll have something to say about this. They design 1227 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:17.560 these systems so that if you have children in the 1228 01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.840 house and they have access to a device, these kids 1229 01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:21.239 will turn around and sign up. 1230 01:13:21.199 --> 01:13:23.199 For games and TV or whatever else. 1231 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.119 And if you have any acts, if they have any 1232 01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:29.520 access to your online wallet, you might wind up having 1233 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:31.920 to argue with charges for the next year because your 1234 01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:34.479 ten year old got on there and decided he wanted 1235 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:35.640 to see Minecraft the movie. 1236 01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:37.399 Okay, And you. 1237 01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:41.319 Also might accidentally sign up for stuff and not realize. 1238 01:13:41.399 --> 01:13:43.720 Now you've got a subscription and you've got a hard 1239 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:46.800 time trying to cancel it. These systems are designed to 1240 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.640 be this way. This is why there's a whole new 1241 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:51.880 business out there of like, look, we'll get together all 1242 01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:53.760 your subscriptions you forgot you had. 1243 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:55.960 I don't know how people forget about their money. 1244 01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:58.720 I lose a dollar, I realize it, but other people 1245 01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:00.960 apparently bot you twenty subscriptions. 1246 01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.239 Oh my god, I didn't know I had that. These 1247 01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:04.800 guy's paying two hundred and fifty dollars a. 1248 01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:06.880 Month they show on these commercials and I'm like, how 1249 01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:08.720 do you not notice two hundred and fifty dollars a 1250 01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:09.880 month out of you? 1251 01:14:10.119 --> 01:14:11.800 I mean, what kind of money do you have? Jee 1252 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:13.239 Because if you have it, maybe you don't need to 1253 01:14:13.279 --> 01:14:14.159 worry about it. I don't know. 1254 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:17.399 But they designed this stuff this way, why don't they, 1255 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:19.199 I mean, help me out anyway? 1256 01:14:21.520 --> 01:14:28.039 It is just stuff. Obviously they make money doing that. 1257 01:14:28.199 --> 01:14:31.439 I don't know. Yeah, well, it's just like everything else. 1258 01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:33.520 If they get you to sign up and they give 1259 01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:34.920 you a hard time trying to get rid of it, 1260 01:14:36.199 --> 01:14:38.560 then a lot of people will give up and just say, well, 1261 01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:40.600 maybe I'll enjoy it, or maybe I'll just hang with it, 1262 01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:41.680 or they forget about it. 1263 01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.720 And that's that, you know, because you know this is 1264 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:46.880 the way the system runs. 1265 01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.600 Boy, they're gonna have a trouble like that. I got 1266 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:55.079 to say all the football season, Well I'm saying they 1267 01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:58.279 didn't have a problem. My system would have a problem 1268 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:02.439 with it. Well, everybody yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, say 1269 01:15:02.560 --> 01:15:03.680 no no yes. 1270 01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.800 A lot humps down to what we're having a discussion 1271 01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:11.720 about baseball, and so it's all about footballs into it too, 1272 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:17.199 and that would be a perfect example of what I'm 1273 01:15:17.279 --> 01:15:18.640 trying to explain here. 1274 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:20.560 But like, for instance, you're gonna need to go to 1275 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:23.079 Netflix to watch the super Bowl now, right, just like 1276 01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:25.119 you've got to go there because I know you love 1277 01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:28.159 your wrestling too. You can't watch Monday Night Raw unless 1278 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:32.479 you have Netflix, now, Okay, I'm just saying that, Yeah, okay, 1279 01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:35.680 so you have Netflix, but you better figure out what 1280 01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:36.399 sports are. 1281 01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:38.960 On the Netflix that you're already paying for. Because that's 1282 01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:40.680 the other funny thing is that people are paying for 1283 01:15:40.760 --> 01:15:43.800 four subscriptions they don't even need them. Yeah, we've got 1284 01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:47.479 We've had Rucus in the chat here over at Twitch 1285 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:50.600 and he's joking about having to get a subscription to 1286 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.600 cancel the subscriptions, because no, it's true. 1287 01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:57.000 So you know what he's talking about that Rocket Money 1288 01:15:57.159 --> 01:15:59.279 and a couple other apps out there that you actually 1289 01:15:59.359 --> 01:16:02.880 do you get us subscription, you cancel your subscriptions, Yes, Floyd, 1290 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:08.159 I mean, but this is the way the technocracy continues 1291 01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:09.520 their revenue stream, doesn't it. 1292 01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:17.000 Why? Uh, a very small degree per halves we're talking 1293 01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:21.800 about I'm thinking to the media, to entertainment media. Yeah, 1294 01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:23.840 entertainment media, that's it. 1295 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.560 That's what you know what I don't like, is. 1296 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:28.960 I have Amazon Music? Do any of you guys have 1297 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:30.199 Amazon Music. 1298 01:16:31.039 --> 01:16:34.479 That we have? We have Apple Music, which is comparable. 1299 01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:39.960 But eventually, eventually everything boils down to five controlling families. 1300 01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.680 Notice that you know, they control all the media. Like 1301 01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:46.039 right now, telecom companies are combining with the with the 1302 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:50.479 entertainment companies are combining with the broadcasters are combining. Eventually, 1303 01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:54.039 you're just going to have here's your media entity and 1304 01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:56.680 that's it. You either subscribe to them, you don't. 1305 01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.239 Well, you know what's interesting is that's what Eon MS 1306 01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:02.520 is trying and wanting to do with app. 1307 01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:06.279 Okay, I've got this is the explanation. 1308 01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:09.840 Okay, at least that relates to some of this conspiracy 1309 01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:10.920 technocracy stuff. 1310 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:12.880 The interesting thing is that. 1311 01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:18.439 I don't know how much if there's like an account 1312 01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:21.079 of like whether the media is actually more or less 1313 01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:23.680 profitable than it used to be. But there was kind 1314 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.680 of a crisis for media when the internet streaming and 1315 01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:31.479 everything started, and so like, I mean, obviously the stuff 1316 01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.199 that you guys are talking about is their way to 1317 01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:38.119 recoup the money that they lost because people were pirating 1318 01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:40.199 stuff or they were just not watching it. 1319 01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:42.000 They were just going on the Internet instead. 1320 01:17:42.920 --> 01:17:46.119 But a lot of this political stuff I think has 1321 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:50.520 to do with content creators who can't make money on 1322 01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:53.479 any old kind of media job, like whether they could 1323 01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:56.760 be like working for like a local newspaper or something. 1324 01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:00.520 Instead they have to make like the most boded of 1325 01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:04.359 conspiracy content possible, and that has something to do with it, 1326 01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:07.000 and that also has stuff to do with like this 1327 01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:10.520 whole new subscription model that they're trying to use, and 1328 01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.720 like crowdsourcing, you know, like Patreon. 1329 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.680 And you're on Medium, You're on Medium, and everybody and 1330 01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:19.439 their mother is on substack, right, So I mean, you know, 1331 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:24.279 here we go. Everybody monetizes or I don't monetize, but 1332 01:18:24.319 --> 01:18:28.239 who don't have no intention of like being like a 1333 01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:29.119 content creator. 1334 01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:33.880 But look at like any of these crowdfunding platforms where 1335 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:38.119 you can fund content creators, there is nothing stopping anybody 1336 01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:44.399 from just funding the absolute most divisive and like basically trolls. 1337 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:47.960 I think that absolutely happened, And that's. 1338 01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:51.279 Even similar to like this whole like bitcoin or like 1339 01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:56.359 Russian bitcoin or whatever allegations, but just regular US dollars 1340 01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.439 on Patreon, they can fund whoever's producing the narrative that 1341 01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.359 they want, whether that's the actual like supposed to be 1342 01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:10.399 like whichever side of like the controlled like opposition stuff 1343 01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:13.439 it's supposed to be. But the actual content creator doesn't 1344 01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:15.560 even have to know about it. They can be getting 1345 01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.520 funded because they're disruptive and they won't even know about it. 1346 01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:20.960 There you go the. 1347 01:19:23.199 --> 01:19:27.439 Engagement and payments like that in order to actually condition 1348 01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:31.720 content creators to produce the kind of content that they 1349 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:34.079 want to use for this whole like infra war like 1350 01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:39.439 culture war stuff. We're getting deep here, uncle, yea, Now 1351 01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:43.760 we're getting too deep. That's not a problem. I mean, uncle, 1352 01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.079 we're making content. It's true, we are making online content. 1353 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:48.119 It's crazy that we. 1354 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:51.800 Need to know what we're getting into here. Yeah. 1355 01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:53.720 So if you guys don't want if you guys don't 1356 01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:57.880 get like money, it's because you're actually not being. 1357 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:03.000 You're not in culture war enough. If you were, they 1358 01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:03.960 sat making money. 1359 01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:05.279 Got it? 1360 01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:06.359 Got it? 1361 01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:12.800 Yeah? Yeah, uncle, it's we tell him a little son, 1362 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:18.319 a good talk show. Baseball the culture Wars, and how 1363 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:22.359 did it get to this? I don't actual want the 1364 01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:26.359 culture wars baseball. It's another baseball, the culture Wars. It's 1365 01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:29.000 my fault. Uncle. Listen, you got two callers. So so 1366 01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:31.560 I don't know if you want to get to them. Oh, okay, 1367 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.840 we have to take them, take them, So we'll go 1368 01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:39.279 the first one they go, Who it is? I bet 1369 01:20:39.319 --> 01:20:44.239 you can guess uncle Jimmy. All right, let's find out. 1370 01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:54.880 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, hang on, there's that 1371 01:20:55.159 --> 01:21:00.319 wasn't No, this is you. Now, that wasn't you. But 1372 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.399 this is you. Okay, I tell you that it was Jimmy. 1373 01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:06.319 Not that one was Jimmy, and then the other was 1374 01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:08.800 not Jimmy. Yeah, yeah, I don't know who that was. 1375 01:21:10.199 --> 01:21:13.199 You go, I don't know who is Joy and not Jimmy. 1376 01:21:13.439 --> 01:21:17.800 My curser, my curser slid over because that is uh, 1377 01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:20.000 that's the count waiting up next. 1378 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:23.479 Okay, we'll go to the count in mere moments. But 1379 01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:26.840 we got Jimmy's Uh, why don't Jimmy. Do you have 1380 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:32.119 any questions for or do you want anything to our guest? Why? Yeah? 1381 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:34.800 Why Jimmy? 1382 01:21:37.199 --> 01:21:39.960 Hell, I do have a question for why? 1383 01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:46.199 First she congratulate because your dodger there broke willing means 1384 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:47.239 a stupid record? 1385 01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:47.800 Where to go? 1386 01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:59.880 Who's like Willie Mays's record? Just a moment, just a moment? 1387 01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:03.039 How want you watching that pacebo oh god, here we 1388 01:22:03.199 --> 01:22:04.439 go again at the paceball. 1389 01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:07.039 The problem with just watching it, that's our problem. Hey, 1390 01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:10.640 Eli can't do it. We can't watch, Jimmy, we can't. 1391 01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:14.560 You're not up on these things, Jimmy, we just can't 1392 01:22:14.600 --> 01:22:18.840 at all watch peliods. 1393 01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:20.119 That I get. 1394 01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:23.720 What the problem is is the problem is is they 1395 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:28.239 purposely freeze out so called local markets and make you 1396 01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:29.359 try to pay money. 1397 01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:34.840 Oh that's why. Yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. 1398 01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:37.479 You now have two callers behind Jimmy, by the way, 1399 01:22:37.640 --> 01:22:39.720 just a little dangan. 1400 01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:41.800 Okay, well that in mind. Why don't we go directly? Chippy? 1401 01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:43.880 You said you want to ask why something? 1402 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:44.039 Why? 1403 01:22:44.119 --> 01:22:45.520 You just go ahead and do that, right, go ahead 1404 01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:47.239 and until what I want to say. 1405 01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:55.720 We won't give back your let's call it. 1406 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:59.720 Oh cool, okay, Jimmy, hang on, I'll give you honey 1407 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:03.640 Pepper up back, shout out to Jersey as always, count 1408 01:23:03.680 --> 01:23:08.199 pepper popper up. Hey, how you doing okay? 1409 01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:12.319 Well? 1410 01:23:12.760 --> 01:23:14.159 With all about these subscriptions? 1411 01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:17.640 I thought i'd claim what happened to me yesterday is 1412 01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:21.760 that I used nord VPN right me fired anything I 1413 01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:26.800 want and I was getting for like a month's email 1414 01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:29.479 saying it's going to renew at the end of. 1415 01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:33.159 This month, at the end of June, like this is fine, exacting. 1416 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:36.399 I was expecting to be sixty bucks. 1417 01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:39.840 I get the email yesterday one hundred and fifty bucks, 1418 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:44.119 and I immediately got onto their tech support and like 1419 01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:47.880 how to deal with getting my refund, which I don't 1420 01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:49.079 think still is going through it. 1421 01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:53.560 So so you so you ended the program too? Not 1422 01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:58.359 watching baseball my dad, You know I have I have Hulu, 1423 01:23:58.640 --> 01:23:59.960 so I can see some of the games. 1424 01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:00.479 There you go. 1425 01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:04.560 But I don't be able to hire as many things 1426 01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:07.960 as I feel, like movies like the newest Hollywood movie. 1427 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:13.439 Mm hmm, I sure hope, he said on the next line. 1428 01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:16.399 That's why we're gonna have big Sean. I know that 1429 01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:19.079 the folks, like the folks in the chat over at 1430 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:21.640 youtubeer like this government talk is getting to be too much. 1431 01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:24.199 They want to talk about squirrels and pomegranates is what 1432 01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:27.159 they want to be talking about. That's that's what the 1433 01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:29.800 chat cleaning is coming from. 1434 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:33.199 Man, here we having conversation about baseball, and now we 1435 01:24:33.319 --> 01:24:34.199 got that going. 1436 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:41.880 I'm just relaying what they're saying. That accident. Oh, it's 1437 01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:50.359 a columbul a cult. Oh cools an afarious uncle. This 1438 01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:54.840 is very nefarious, very quickly, but uh, what do you 1439 01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:56.479 think should we go to caller three? I think they 1440 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:57.479 have yet the third call? 1441 01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:58.760 Oh, let's get the three. 1442 01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:01.720 Hold on need okay, hang on. 1443 01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:05.319 And it looks like we have one of our international calls. 1444 01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:08.079 And by the way, we have let's see real quick 1445 01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:09.119 before I bring. 1446 01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:09.479 The call on. 1447 01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:14.800 We have Germany, Canada, UK and all across the United 1448 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.239 States in many different places, mostly. 1449 01:25:16.960 --> 01:25:21.439 On Apple devices apparently. And so that's the way ther 1450 01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:23.800 Chelly stream looks. And it's pretty healthy tonight. Just so 1451 01:25:23.960 --> 01:25:28.359 you know, man, they coming back see that. Anyways, here's 1452 01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:32.880 somebody not in the US calling you now, okay, cool? 1453 01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:39.800 Oh this is this is not Jimmy James. 1454 01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:44.920 Oh man, it's not Jimmy. Did you following us? 1455 01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:45.199 Uncle? 1456 01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:48.000 This is not Jimmy James. You got that. I got 1457 01:25:48.039 --> 01:25:50.199 that one. Okay, Hello, not Jimmy. 1458 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:56.119 This is Billy Billy Mays calling from beyond the grave. 1459 01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:00.880 Did I just hear the Dodgers beat my record for 1460 01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:02.279 selling oxy clean? 1461 01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.800 I think so, I believe. 1462 01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:08.840 So maybe that's where it was. 1463 01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:13.439 Yeah, we're having a conversation about baseball. Might as well 1464 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:15.960 learn in the baseball Uncle, this is say, this is 1465 01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:20.079 not Willy Bay's. This is Billy Bays. It's not really 1466 01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:23.039 it's Billy. It's a different line, It's a different maze. 1467 01:26:23.720 --> 01:26:27.680 Maybe damn blitterish, I guess this is. 1468 01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:34.640 This is Billy Mays of oxy clean fame. No, I died. 1469 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:39.159 I died in two thousand and nine, but I'm coming back. 1470 01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:44.640 How's that? Oh wow, he's even better now, Ron Hubbard, 1471 01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:47.279 do you have a mansion waiting for you too, out 1472 01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:52.960 in uh out in San Jacino like Hubbard does, I am. 1473 01:26:53.560 --> 01:27:00.600 I am calling from the matching of Heaven. Oh, let 1474 01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:03.199 me tell you about pomegranates. 1475 01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:11.680 From outside the country. In outside the country, see Heaven's 1476 01:27:11.800 --> 01:27:12.640 palm granates. 1477 01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:19.479 The pomegranate industry is dominated by the Resnic family, which 1478 01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:27.800 are demonic water thieves. Yeah yeah, granates. 1479 01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:31.880 Yeah, they're evil. They control the agriculture business up in 1480 01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:35.439 northern It is true. I thought learn anything more evil 1481 01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:38.840 than I thought. The only thing I thought lear anything 1482 01:27:38.920 --> 01:27:43.079 more evil than that was almonds. Yeah, well they control that. 1483 01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:46.520 Also, family control the almond industry. 1484 01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:54.039 Okay, gosh, the all support war with Iran because they 1485 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:59.840 control the pistachio industry, and Iran produces more flavorful pistachio. 1486 01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:04.640 Oh no, back to back to that one thing. It's 1487 01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:08.840 water Wars in California tied directly to Iran. Uncle. 1488 01:28:09.840 --> 01:28:15.880 Oh hello, hello, hello, yeah, hello, this is Canada. 1489 01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:18.800 Boy. I was I think I was just possessed. 1490 01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:24.239 Hey wait a minute, that's Ken everyhore. Is it why 1491 01:28:24.319 --> 01:28:27.439 they stopped playing? I think I was Charlie. 1492 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:29.840 I was just possessed by the spirit of Billy Mays. 1493 01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:34.840 Oh my god. I thought this guy was filling me 1494 01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:37.399 and now this is the guy from norther of me. 1495 01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:43.079 You know that once happened to clean. I was just 1496 01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:44.039 cleaning my uh. 1497 01:28:44.239 --> 01:28:46.640 I was just cleaning my stuff with oxy clean, and 1498 01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.039 then all of a sudden I was possessed. 1499 01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:53.479 Spirit. When that hal when that happens? H Robin, do 1500 01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:56.039 you have a question for I guess why? Yeah, you 1501 01:28:56.119 --> 01:28:59.560 got a question for wine. I just I just forgot 1502 01:28:59.680 --> 01:29:02.359 what it was and tuned in late. 1503 01:29:02.479 --> 01:29:04.600 So I don't I don't know who why is. I 1504 01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:07.960 don't know if it sounds kind of cryptic, I. 1505 01:29:07.960 --> 01:29:10.600 Don't tell you. Robert. When you go to listen to 1506 01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:13.600 the episode of the Age of Transitions from tonight. You're 1507 01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:15.920 gonna be great pleased, and you're gonna love it. I'll 1508 01:29:15.920 --> 01:29:18.119 say that much. Right, it's a great show. And why 1509 01:29:18.279 --> 01:29:20.000 was it okay? Again? 1510 01:29:20.760 --> 01:29:21.640 So can I ask? 1511 01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:24.640 I asked why? Why? 1512 01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:30.000 Yeah, that's the thing he Aaron started calling me that, 1513 01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:35.720 so ask him. Yeah, let's get that easy? 1514 01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:37.760 Is this is this easy? 1515 01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:40.560 Oh? 1516 01:29:41.279 --> 01:29:49.600 No, I don't think you're Kanye. Who's keen lanky? All right? 1517 01:29:49.680 --> 01:29:50.760 Why let's hear the question. 1518 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:55.279 Let's see I'm cool, I'm cool. 1519 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:59.159 Related question, have you visited any sword shops lately? 1520 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:00.439 No? 1521 01:30:03.239 --> 01:30:05.600 I don't know if they have those anymore? 1522 01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:07.920 Oh, but they do. 1523 01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:11.880 We got another caller. 1524 01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:14.159 Let's go to the new collar in a minute. 1525 01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:15.800 Who is We gotta get back to that search up 1526 01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.000 later we'll come on and we don't go. Man, who's 1527 01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:19.920 just on air? 1528 01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:22.960 Well? 1529 01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:23.399 Uncle? 1530 01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:27.800 If I hear another word about squirrels eating the damn pomegranate, 1531 01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:30.439 so I'm gonna send the play the squirrels on you guys. 1532 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.920 That will make the fog plague in Egypt look like 1533 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:38.279 a little few ants in the kitchen, don't ye tell? 1534 01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:39.960 Sidekicks sidekicks talk. 1535 01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:41.279 He's the one that said that. 1536 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:43.840 Yell at him, not me. 1537 01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:50.439 I'm talking about your favorite baseball games that we cannot. 1538 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:57.079 Not see. So that's another problem. That's another problem I'm having. 1539 01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:01.359 We're not having a good MLB TV. 1540 01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:04.239 We'll get a U. It's like one hundred and fifty 1541 01:31:04.319 --> 01:31:06.319 or one hundred and seventy bucks a year. You can 1542 01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:11.159 watch any and every game that you want. Uh, you 1543 01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:13.920 gotta add you know, when you get a misty page. 1544 01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:15.760 If you can't afford it, we'll get it to you know, 1545 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:19.640 an uncle. MLB TV go fund me page. You can 1546 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.720 literally watch any every game of any team. Gotta ask. 1547 01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:26.039 I build a people in this house, gotta ask the 1548 01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:29.279 bail people. It becomes a missus side kid. 1549 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:34.680 I've got to ask her, is why Donny, because I'm 1550 01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:39.000 going crazy. I just wanted to see one simple game 1551 01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:40.359 in I'm getting charged. 1552 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.119 That's stupid, man, stupid. 1553 01:31:45.319 --> 01:31:48.199 Yeah, I think that if I don't, I don't subscribe 1554 01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:50.960 to MLB TV because I don't have TV and I 1555 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:53.359 have my little device, but mostly i'm at work or 1556 01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:55.720 I'm sitting on a porch and I'm listening to the 1557 01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:58.079 game and maybe reading or writing while I listen. But 1558 01:31:58.920 --> 01:32:00.960 so I subscribe for the one that where I just 1559 01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:04.199 can listen to the radio broadcasts from the games. But 1560 01:32:04.439 --> 01:32:08.239 MLB TV for what a cost. If I was into 1561 01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:12.880 the more visual thing, it's really not a bad deal 1562 01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:15.840 for the you can watch all the baseball games from 1563 01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:19.000 any team, your own team and any other team you 1564 01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:23.000 want for like one hundred and you know, for the 1565 01:32:23.039 --> 01:32:25.000 whole season at the beginning. I think it's like one 1566 01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:27.800 hundred and sixty or seventy bucks now, but you know 1567 01:32:27.920 --> 01:32:31.279 that isn't bad in the whole six month you need 1568 01:32:31.399 --> 01:32:32.439 to set month season. 1569 01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:34.079 Yeah, I was just going to say, if you wanted 1570 01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:37.039 to get radio from all the games all across the country. 1571 01:32:37.279 --> 01:32:40.920 Didn't see her satellite radio off for that like pretty cheap. 1572 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:44.560 Or along with the suspension or something at one point 1573 01:32:44.680 --> 01:32:47.640 or no, I don't know, but it's thirty bucks a 1574 01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:52.399 year from MLB all any and every radio game. 1575 01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:57.439 See it regularly. That's what I subscribe to. And it 1576 01:32:57.560 --> 01:32:59.439 only went up to thirty a couple of years ago. 1577 01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:01.720 It has been twenty bucks all along. I mean, it's like, 1578 01:33:03.159 --> 01:33:06.000 really not a bad deal as far as media stuff goes. 1579 01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:10.399 Today, Yeah, nothing's twenty bucks or thirty bucks anymore. Now 1580 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:12.880 we've evolved into that we have to bow something. 1581 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:15.960 You know, every game, I want to switch over and 1582 01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:18.920 listen to a close a close game. 1583 01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:20.399 You know that the competing team. 1584 01:33:20.479 --> 01:33:22.640 I can switch over and listen to that later or 1585 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:25.319 but yeah, you can listen to any whatever you want 1586 01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:28.399 on the radio. And there's no blackouts on the radio deal. 1587 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.600 There are some on the TV deal, unfortunately. 1588 01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:35.439 And I bought that, babe, that baseball baseball game we 1589 01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:36.960 were talking about in the chat room, by the way, 1590 01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:39.279 I bought that thing for six bucks on sale and 1591 01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:40.840 I haven't spent a penny on it since. 1592 01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:43.760 But people can do in game purchases. It's a you know, 1593 01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:44.640 but that's another thing. 1594 01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.439 Oh yeah, I didn't know how to buy a single 1595 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:50.039 game purchases. But yeah, that's pretty cool if you wanted 1596 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:51.399 to just see one game. 1597 01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:51.600 You know. 1598 01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:54.680 But but no, I was just saying that that game 1599 01:33:54.760 --> 01:33:56.520 that I was describing to you with the players and 1600 01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.279 the cards and stuff, oh that game game. 1601 01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:01.920 Yeah, yeah, that sounds pretty far out. 1602 01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:04.920 Yeah yeah, I only played, but I paid six bucks 1603 01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:08.359 for it and then but other people sink hundreds of 1604 01:34:08.399 --> 01:34:09.399 dollars into this thing. 1605 01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:12.039 I don't what about magic the gather? 1606 01:34:12.239 --> 01:34:12.760 I believe it? 1607 01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:16.039 No, no, no, a baseball game it's literally all. That's 1608 01:34:16.079 --> 01:34:18.319 why it's related to this topic because we were going 1609 01:34:18.399 --> 01:34:20.520 back and forth. I was describing to him something about 1610 01:34:20.520 --> 01:34:23.000 a baseball game because he mentioned Shoho Tani and this. 1611 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:25.039 And that, and I said, yeah, I'm getting sick of 1612 01:34:25.079 --> 01:34:26.159 seeing the guy because. 1613 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:29.920 Every single team, no matter where it's from, has drafted Showho. 1614 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:34.000 Tani on their team. And I'm like, that's annoying. And 1615 01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:38.239 to ask yourself, how long will you stay on him? 1616 01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:42.359 That's why, Yeah, he signed Kim of long term contract. 1617 01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.760 I thought with the Dodgers, is that our time? He's like, yeah, 1618 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:46.760 isn't he like the highest paid baseball player? 1619 01:34:47.560 --> 01:34:50.880 Got ten years ten year contract, so he's got eight 1620 01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:52.920 more years he left. 1621 01:34:53.079 --> 01:34:56.680 Ye, he's not living in our area. No, No, that 1622 01:34:56.800 --> 01:34:59.960 ain't happening. But why did I hear you say something there? 1623 01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:03.800 Did you got something to say on this now? 1624 01:35:05.840 --> 01:35:09.680 Actually, d do you know that my guest from the 1625 01:35:09.760 --> 01:35:11.800 previous hour lies online? And do you have a question 1626 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.960 for him? We got to guess. 1627 01:35:15.279 --> 01:35:19.079 I know he is and I heard most of it, but. 1628 01:35:20.680 --> 01:35:21.039 I don't. 1629 01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:23.039 I really don't have a question right now, though, But 1630 01:35:23.159 --> 01:35:26.439 I thought it was an interesting Uh. I heard most 1631 01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:28.359 of it. I had to do some things in between, 1632 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.920 but yeah, I was definitely look forward to doing being 1633 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:31.319 on again. 1634 01:35:31.359 --> 01:35:34.399 If you guys do it again, I'm cutting my mic 1635 01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:36.119 I'm cutting my mic in But just let me know 1636 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:37.640 what you want me to do, because we got like 1637 01:35:37.760 --> 01:35:40.000 three other callers on the line still. 1638 01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:42.159 Hanging, and you just let me know what you want. Okay, 1639 01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:45.079 Oh yeah, switch back to uncle. Is there anybody? Do 1640 01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:46.319 we have to go back to Jimmy? Do you have 1641 01:35:46.359 --> 01:35:48.439 to go back to Pepper to see what they have 1642 01:35:48.520 --> 01:35:50.640 to say about this? We think, Yeah, let's ask them 1643 01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:54.039 what do they think about it? Then go from me. 1644 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.239 Do we want to start with Jimmy? Did you want 1645 01:35:57.239 --> 01:35:58.640 to start with Jimmy asking when he thinks of this? 1646 01:35:58.800 --> 01:35:58.960 Yeah? 1647 01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:01.239 Good Jimmy. Do you think Jimmy? 1648 01:36:01.319 --> 01:36:03.920 Okay, Jimmy's gone, but we can go back to Pepper 1649 01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.600 right away if you want. Yeah, he's got a pupper 1650 01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:07.600 and ask him what you thinks. 1651 01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:14.560 Oh, if you have an electu advice, you remember you 1652 01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:17.159 can just tell her to play a radio station. So 1653 01:36:17.239 --> 01:36:20.239 if you know the radio station your baseball game is on, 1654 01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:24.000 so quiet for you, just keep. 1655 01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:26.760 That in mind. I do like that suggestion. 1656 01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:28.520 Well there you go. 1657 01:36:29.520 --> 01:36:32.800 That's still listening. Yeah, yeah, but you know, young on 1658 01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:34.439 a want of money at that point, we're trying to 1659 01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:36.920 not get charged just for like doing stuff that we 1660 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:38.880 want to do. Yeah, this is how you don't pay 1661 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:40.600 any money to it, but you can at least listen 1662 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:40.840 to it. 1663 01:36:41.119 --> 01:36:41.279 Right. 1664 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:46.000 Jimmy's back on the line, by way, Okay, Jimmy, what 1665 01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:50.119 do you think about this? Jimmy? 1666 01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:55.960 Yes, I only heard that's the question. 1667 01:36:56.560 --> 01:37:01.840 Oh, sorry, you just I heard you do? Yeah, sorry 1668 01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:02.159 about that. 1669 01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:04.600 What do you think about this whole thing with you 1670 01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:09.159 know the problem with broadcasting and you know, subscriptions and 1671 01:37:09.239 --> 01:37:09.840 all this mess. 1672 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:14.319 What do you think? Well? 1673 01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:19.159 Uh, I like I think that deal that that was 1674 01:37:19.239 --> 01:37:22.640 time out where it's thirty bucks. That'd be fine for 1675 01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:26.359 me because I listened to everything anymore. I haven't turned 1676 01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:30.640 on my TV in four years. N I listened to 1677 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:43.000 pretty much as podcasts or live stream and honestly, I'll 1678 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:48.000 think what I very rarely pay for squat. 1679 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:48.720 Oh. 1680 01:37:48.840 --> 01:37:51.239 I usually don't have a whole lot of trouble finding 1681 01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:54.560 something I don't know. 1682 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:57.079 I'm not big on, you know what. 1683 01:37:57.319 --> 01:37:59.880 Not's something else weird. Maybe it's because I've hit that 1684 01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:03.800 age where I'm old, where I just I can't stand 1685 01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:09.079 watching movies. I can't stand TV shows. I just i'ay 1686 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:10.119 it's annoying. 1687 01:38:10.399 --> 01:38:10.600 Boy. 1688 01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:15.239 I'm like literally at the stage somehow now where the 1689 01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:19.079 weather channel and the news is about telf hour listen 1690 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:20.159 to in the background. 1691 01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:24.199 I don't know. Yeah. 1692 01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:26.640 No, if it wasn't if it wasn't for these guys lately, 1693 01:38:26.760 --> 01:38:29.920 I wouldn't have even gotten back into baseball really at all, 1694 01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:33.000 even like looking at it or listening to it for years, 1695 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:33.439 I didn't. 1696 01:38:34.079 --> 01:38:36.119 But anyway, we can go back around to yet another 1697 01:38:36.199 --> 01:38:41.399 color and then get back around ahead after that. Okay, 1698 01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.359 let's see who is who? Yeah, let's go to other 1699 01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:49.920 color other, not Jimmy, this is other, not Jimmy. Let's 1700 01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:57.840 see hello hello, serious, hello hello Hello. I would I 1701 01:38:57.920 --> 01:38:59.520 can speak, I would. 1702 01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:06.159 I would concur with Jimmy that all modern media is 1703 01:39:06.479 --> 01:39:08.640 uh is propaganda. 1704 01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:12.800 And not worth consuming for the most part. Uh the 1705 01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:16.359 outside talk to the squirrels such. 1706 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:21.239 Grass, Oh, baseball is Masonic's weird shit going on there? 1707 01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:23.960 Why? Why what are you saying about baseball? 1708 01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:26.319 Yeah? 1709 01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:29.600 Who invented that? Because, like, I don't understand the appeal 1710 01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:29.840 of it. 1711 01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:32.399 That's why I'm not saying anything, because I don't watch it, 1712 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:36.079 but it does seem like a strange thing to do. 1713 01:39:36.399 --> 01:39:43.720 Even why know, Yeah, well, you know they're he knows 1714 01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:47.680 more about it, ed knows more about it than he does. Yes, 1715 01:39:50.319 --> 01:39:53.680 bring it. He could probably tell you about Abner David 1716 01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:54.960 in mention the game good. 1717 01:39:55.479 --> 01:39:58.640 You might be more interested in some of the esoteric 1718 01:39:58.720 --> 01:40:02.039 elements of baseball because they're many. I mean, it's clearly 1719 01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:07.479 had free Masonic influence in the inventing of the game 1720 01:40:07.560 --> 01:40:10.439 at all. I mean just just if you turn if 1721 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:13.760 you take the free Masonic symbol and turn it upside 1722 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:18.199 down and open the calipers, you're looking at a baseball field. 1723 01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:21.720 A more of a. 1724 01:40:21.760 --> 01:40:25.119 Thinking person's game. It's just it's it shouldn't even be 1725 01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:28.800 categorized with the games that are played on rectangles with 1726 01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:32.039 goals at each end. In my opinion, it's a it's 1727 01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:33.039 in a whole other level. 1728 01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:40.399 It is interesting how they they run around the thing 1729 01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:43.199 instead of like the goals, you know, it's like in 1730 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:44.159 the other games. 1731 01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:48.760 Yeah, and just there's numerology and it's it's it's an 1732 01:40:48.800 --> 01:40:54.279 amazingly esoteric game. Uh. And the origins of it are 1733 01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.880 not really known. All of the allegian fields thing is 1734 01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:01.640 not necessarily really accurate. It kind of a it's kind 1735 01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:03.760 of like a lot of things, weird things in life 1736 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:07.960 that the beginnings of them aren't really nailed down, and 1737 01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:11.800 uh you know, and there's just a lot of obvious 1738 01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:15.079 esoteric elements to it to anybody just a little bit. 1739 01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:19.439 Another thing that's interesting is like the whole baseball statistics thing, 1740 01:41:19.600 --> 01:41:23.840 like even I guess before there was computers and stuff, 1741 01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:26.520 but like people who would be obsessed with baseball statistics. 1742 01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:33.279 Oh yeah, yeah, definitely it goes back, you know, quite 1743 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:38.479 a ways with with that. Like I say, it's a 1744 01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:42.880 different level game from the other major team sports. Did 1745 01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:44.840 you altogether by in my opinion? 1746 01:41:46.279 --> 01:41:46.479 Yeah? 1747 01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:47.600 Did you e a? 1748 01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.720 And then come down to these days when you're gone 1749 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:54.560 to a baseball game and a hamburg a hot dog 1750 01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:56.119 and a soda pop. 1751 01:41:57.640 --> 01:41:57.880 Boy. 1752 01:41:58.039 --> 01:42:00.880 Yeah, that's a long way from time to do that. 1753 01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:04.359 I can't even do that for now. 1754 01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:10.039 The main uh yeah, the main the whole level around 1755 01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:13.720 the ballpark don't have an amazing food court. Yeah you don't. 1756 01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.560 I go as soon as they open and just. 1757 01:42:19.199 --> 01:42:19.439 Drink. 1758 01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:20.840 How did that got? 1759 01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:24.680 Well? Take me out to the ball game is buy 1760 01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:28.800 me peanuts and cracker jacks. Yeah, that's so, that's sokay. 1761 01:42:28.840 --> 01:42:30.600 We're referencing taking out to the ball game. 1762 01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:34.680 Yeah, there's good food at the ballpark. 1763 01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:34.880 Now. 1764 01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:37.199 It's not just hot dogs and cracker jacks. You know, 1765 01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:38.760 it's a lot of good food out there. 1766 01:42:39.680 --> 01:42:39.960 People. 1767 01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:42.600 You know, I don't like it because it's a constant 1768 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:45.560 noise and a big screen. I don't need all of that, 1769 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:48.479 but I'm grateful for the better array of food. I 1770 01:42:48.520 --> 01:42:50.479 don't go to that many games as I used to, 1771 01:42:50.680 --> 01:42:54.520 but when I go, you know, it's enjoyable to know 1772 01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:58.000 you can get just about any kind of food you 1773 01:42:58.039 --> 01:42:58.640 want out there. 1774 01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:06.079 Nowadays it's a very regular smorgas sports. Then you go 1775 01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:08.600 to the baseball game, Uncle, and I wouldn't have it 1776 01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:09.199 any other way. 1777 01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:12.960 Ever, the same thing in the football thing. It's the 1778 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:16.680 same thing, but the difference is they have beer. 1779 01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:18.520 Oh they got that beer. 1780 01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:19.800 Uh. 1781 01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:22.920 With that in mind, why do you do you drink 1782 01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:24.920 it all? Do you drink any alcoholic beverages ever? 1783 01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:26.880 Yeah? 1784 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.079 I should have if I had thought of it. And 1785 01:43:31.199 --> 01:43:32.520 if you come back on the show and you want 1786 01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:34.520 to do the Uncle show again, maybe what we're planning 1787 01:43:34.560 --> 01:43:37.039 on doing a beer review because we like to do 1788 01:43:37.159 --> 01:43:39.000 beer reviews on the show, where we drink one throughout 1789 01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:41.279 the show and we rate it one to ten. And yeah, 1790 01:43:41.319 --> 01:43:43.960 we can do that. We can do that. We do 1791 01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:47.039 like to do that. We do that when you gets 1792 01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:50.439 a decent good beer, because we don't have one tonight either, uncle, 1793 01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:54.680 sometimes do you we don't have any. We taste it 1794 01:43:54.760 --> 01:43:57.760 almost everything. You can't meet the guy, I mean, but 1795 01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:03.640 he has goes out but on the show. Thing for 1796 01:44:04.279 --> 01:44:08.720 the payment, and we'll have the beer for that exactly. 1797 01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:11.800 That's what you're doing. Do you ever do that? Why 1798 01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:13.720 do you ever drink a beer at home? And then 1799 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:15.960 you just have to rate it one to view it? No, 1800 01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:20.680 you don't. I'm gonna do that one when you come 1801 01:44:20.760 --> 01:44:22.920 back life. If you come back, come back on, maybe 1802 01:44:22.920 --> 01:44:26.800 we'll maybe there's another there's another thing. 1803 01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.479 If you also would like to build my new revolution, 1804 01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:38.640 I go through before the Home Country before it ends. 1805 01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:43.600 New Year's If you do a special, a special special show. 1806 01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:48.239 He's not on his shows off, that's just my show. 1807 01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:52.239 Just just let you know if you like that too, 1808 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.239 and then we're really need into summunicate you know what. 1809 01:44:55.399 --> 01:44:57.520 You know, what's interesting is that you're talking about the 1810 01:44:57.680 --> 01:44:59.479 esoteric nature of the baseball game. 1811 01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:01.039 I just I want to point something out. 1812 01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:04.119 When I was growing up, I was taught the Abner 1813 01:45:04.199 --> 01:45:08.239 Doubleday myth about him creating the game of baseball, and 1814 01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:11.039 that was the official history as. 1815 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:13.239 I remember it, but nowadays not so much. 1816 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:16.720 And there's a guy named Alexander Cartwright that started the 1817 01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:20.600 Knickerbocker Baseball Club that is credited with most of the modern. 1818 01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:22.880 Rules, but it's generally accepted by. 1819 01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:27.039 Most historians apparently that the game sort of evolved and 1820 01:45:27.239 --> 01:45:31.520 the American version of it was shaped by Alexander Cartwright. 1821 01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:36.800 So it's a very odd sort of history to that game. 1822 01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:40.479 But I don't see the masons all of it, except 1823 01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:42.840 in the case of double Day, who might have been 1824 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:45.560 But then again, that was the finding of a guy 1825 01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:49.239 named Spalding, who you know, then of these names sounds 1826 01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:50.479 familiar to baseball people. 1827 01:45:50.600 --> 01:45:54.760 Spalding, you know, who was. 1828 01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:57.079 A star player and had a commission in nineteen oh 1829 01:45:57.199 --> 01:45:59.319 seven that sort of declared that Abner double Day had 1830 01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:01.439 been at the game because he was a Civil War hero, 1831 01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:06.439 But not true apparently anyway. Just interesting that this has 1832 01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:08.960 sort of evolved over the years, But I don't know 1833 01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:11.479 what the real origin is seems to have evolved out 1834 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:14.520 of many baton ball games from previous centuries. 1835 01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:22.439 Well, we're not allowed to add the history. Crazy, isn't 1836 01:46:22.439 --> 01:46:27.279 it crazy? How like these legends surround everything that in 1837 01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:31.279 our world, all these weird ideas, and it's always nebulous. 1838 01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:34.159 It seems to be more often than not. I mean, 1839 01:46:34.279 --> 01:46:36.199 with something as simple as baseball, you think to be 1840 01:46:36.439 --> 01:46:38.800 clear cut straight. It's like, oh yeah, back in eighteen 1841 01:46:38.920 --> 01:46:43.239 fifty two, Shohnny Appleseed and Oswald pat And picked up 1842 01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:46.680 a stick in the hid of apple in the backyard, 1843 01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:49.000 and that was how the first baseball game went. But 1844 01:46:49.880 --> 01:46:50.640 now we don't know. 1845 01:46:52.439 --> 01:46:55.800 There the baseball field with the Masonic symbol of the 1846 01:46:55.960 --> 01:46:58.359 compass and the square, and you can't miss it. 1847 01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:00.600 You just turn it up to that, you can't. 1848 01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:04.359 You can't miss the likeness. It's it's the same symbol 1849 01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:08.279 the infield of the ballpark. Is that resoning? 1850 01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:08.720 Somebody? 1851 01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:09.439 Annie? 1852 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:15.760 Annie, did you see that movie with Gus Cossla in 1853 01:47:15.880 --> 01:47:17.640 the in the field field of dreams? 1854 01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:19.479 Dreams? Right? 1855 01:47:19.680 --> 01:47:23.880 Oh yeah, what a great what a great movie, even 1856 01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:26.680 even a really good books. And the movie did really 1857 01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:29.479 well as far as conveying the book. I think, but 1858 01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:33.520 the book has some differences. But yeah, yeah, of course 1859 01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:36.920 that's a great movie. I think, yeah, yeah, those movies 1860 01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:38.199 go yeah. 1861 01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:38.359 There you go. 1862 01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:41.159 Now you like that? Uncle? Right? 1863 01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:42.600 Yeah, go ahead? Do you like that movie? 1864 01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:43.119 Now? 1865 01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:44.720 Go ahead? Uncle, you like it? What you bought it? 1866 01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:49.359 You go ahead? Well what about Field of Dreams? Their Dreams? 1867 01:47:50.079 --> 01:47:54.079 Was very interesting to me that all these yeah, beca 1868 01:47:54.439 --> 01:48:02.520 came in, came in, and don't we have a Little 1869 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:03.399 Game of Baseball? 1870 01:48:03.680 --> 01:48:09.279 That author, the Kidd who his book was made into 1871 01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:13.039 that movie, he wrote a book it wasn't I can't 1872 01:48:13.039 --> 01:48:14.920 think of the name of the book, Oh, Shoeless Joe. 1873 01:48:15.119 --> 01:48:17.399 I think the book was just called Shoeless Joe. But 1874 01:48:17.520 --> 01:48:20.239 he's written a lot of the books about baseball, and 1875 01:48:20.359 --> 01:48:24.880 he always he recognizes the mystical nation, the nature of baseball. 1876 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.000 He's a he's a really I can't think of his 1877 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:31.239 first name, but Cancella was his last name. Really good author. 1878 01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:35.199 He's a Canadian guy who has written some sort of 1879 01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:41.720 magical realism books about baseball. And I'd recommend him to anybody. 1880 01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:45.439 Who's interested in and Suan's also welcome. 1881 01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:50.079 Shueless Joe was also Suele's Joe was also recently welcome 1882 01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:51.880 back into baseball along with Pete Rose. 1883 01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:58.520 Right, I didn't know Pete Rose got welcomed back in. 1884 01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:02.039 I did hear some rumored that maybe shoeless Joel was 1885 01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:06.199 going to be uh, maybe a grandfather back in somehow, 1886 01:49:06.319 --> 01:49:07.359 though recently. 1887 01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:10.520 Bob double check it. But I'm pretty sure they heard pet. 1888 01:49:10.479 --> 01:49:11.439 Rose last I heard. 1889 01:49:11.520 --> 01:49:12.079 But I don't know. 1890 01:49:13.720 --> 01:49:17.079 So the then need to get in trouble, pets in trouble. Yeah, 1891 01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:20.039 that's why it's not in the whole thame. Yeah, it's uh. 1892 01:49:21.039 --> 01:49:24.520 I blayed that was and didn't they just posthumously not 1893 01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:27.359 a man was that close? I don't know how that happened. 1894 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:33.319 Pens supporting to ESPN dot com Pete Rose, shoeless Joe 1895 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.600 Jackson among players reinstated by MLB. 1896 01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:38.479 In historic sweeping decision. 1897 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:43.479 Baseball admissioner Rob Man heard that right on Tuesday, removed 1898 01:49:43.479 --> 01:49:46.640 Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson, and other deceased players from 1899 01:49:46.720 --> 01:49:49.840 Major League Baseball's permanently ineligible list. 1900 01:49:50.760 --> 01:49:52.279 So I just want to let you know that that 1901 01:49:52.439 --> 01:49:54.920 was from an article published on May thirteen. 1902 01:49:55.800 --> 01:50:00.039 Okay, t asy step towards doing with Wright, I think. 1903 01:50:01.039 --> 01:50:06.279 I agree, But yeah, and there you have it now, uncle, 1904 01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:10.560 we have so many callers. Oh, let's star. Might we 1905 01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:15.239 might want to start shot? I guess well both, No, 1906 01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:17.680 we can do him work our way back to the 1907 01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:21.880 guest was it was who the first caller? A get 1908 01:50:21.960 --> 01:50:26.520 who these stuff was? He's talking when we start with ED? 1909 01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:28.840 When we started ed, who was on the line already? 1910 01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:32.720 And then I'll bring them in as we go. Perfect. 1911 01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:35.439 Oh man, we got tonight for a shout out. 1912 01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:40.159 Hut Hey, well, shoot, I haven't thought about it, but uh, 1913 01:50:41.319 --> 01:50:44.079 I've only mentioned it to Jimmy and Chuck, but my 1914 01:50:44.159 --> 01:50:47.520 wife of thirty six years passed away back in May. 1915 01:50:48.560 --> 01:50:50.119 And I want to shout out to you guys. 1916 01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.560 Because a while I haven't been really participating in the 1917 01:50:52.680 --> 01:50:55.760 chat or calling or anything, I've been listening because you 1918 01:50:55.840 --> 01:50:58.359 guys kind of uplift my spirits in spite of in 1919 01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:01.640 spite of the shadow of death. I've been in and 1920 01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:04.439 shout out to all you guys, man, because I've been 1921 01:51:04.479 --> 01:51:07.880 listening on Fridays, even if I haven't been active in 1922 01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:10.439 chat or anything, and much loved. 1923 01:51:10.239 --> 01:51:13.479 All of you guys. Yeah, And I wasn't even going 1924 01:51:13.520 --> 01:51:15.119 to mention that because I didn't know where you were 1925 01:51:15.119 --> 01:51:18.640 at with it, but you know, we're with you and 1926 01:51:19.079 --> 01:51:21.600 to be able to talk, you know, a normal I 1927 01:51:21.680 --> 01:51:24.640 know you're a friend. Wow, you're a friend. 1928 01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:27.359 And I'm really sorry to have heard that. And I'm 1929 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:30.920 sure I share exactly the same thing with everybody who's. 1930 01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:34.159 On the line here. We definitely feel for you and 1931 01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.479 we're glad that you know you're still with us. How 1932 01:51:36.479 --> 01:51:36.760 about that. 1933 01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:41.800 Yeah, I'm grateful to be with you guys, because I 1934 01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:44.800 don't really have friends or anything much like that around here, 1935 01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:48.680 and I never believed in uh, I was scoffed at 1936 01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:51.680 the idea of online community and stuff, but I find 1937 01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:54.239 that I actually am a part of one such as 1938 01:51:54.319 --> 01:51:57.039 they are, and it's rich with you guys and with 1939 01:51:57.159 --> 01:52:01.760 the rated why folks too. That's that's about it for me, right, and. 1940 01:52:01.880 --> 01:52:06.720 Creative accident, creative accidents just closed in the chat room. 1941 01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:10.840 Love you, Ed, okay, Yeah, much appreciation? 1942 01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:16.439 Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you good, Yeah, thank you Ed. 1943 01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:19.399 I was not aware of that, and yeah I know 1944 01:52:20.079 --> 01:52:26.439 I did, I know. Soeah, we're glad to have you here, 1945 01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:31.760 endurances to you, and yeah, it's it's really great to 1946 01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:33.920 always have you here. Man, So so thank you. 1947 01:52:35.079 --> 01:52:38.279 And that's online and I can say that. 1948 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.680 Any uplift that we can contribute to, we're more than 1949 01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:45.279 happy to, especially because we know you're a good guy. 1950 01:52:45.319 --> 01:52:48.319 You've been around quite a while, and man, I wish 1951 01:52:48.359 --> 01:52:49.960 I lived closer to you. I'd come hang out with 1952 01:52:50.039 --> 01:52:51.279 you on the porch with the squirrels. 1953 01:52:51.279 --> 01:52:54.479 Bro Oh yeah, I'd love to have you. 1954 01:52:54.640 --> 01:52:54.760 Man. 1955 01:52:55.359 --> 01:52:57.399 Well, maybe one day, maybe one day, I'll take a 1956 01:52:57.479 --> 01:52:59.520 road trip out there. If I can never if I 1957 01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:01.840 can ever retire, well you can meet either meet me. 1958 01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:04.199 You can meet me in Texas for a weekend. 1959 01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:06.600 You can meet me in Texas where weekend, or you 1960 01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:08.600 know what, if you ever show up in Georgia, you 1961 01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:10.039 definitely got a place to crash. 1962 01:53:10.119 --> 01:53:11.520 I mean, you got to put up with a bunch 1963 01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:12.239 of little doggies. 1964 01:53:12.279 --> 01:53:16.359 But you know, okay, I might wind up taking one home. 1965 01:53:16.439 --> 01:53:16.840 You never know. 1966 01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:23.399 Man, there you go, all right, all right, we'll talk 1967 01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:25.479 to you soon. I really absolutely. 1968 01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:28.399 I know. 1969 01:53:28.560 --> 01:53:34.399 I Okay, So we can go to Jimmy James next, 1970 01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:36.600 or we can go to Count Pupper. That's who I got. 1971 01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:39.560 Let's see I might have Nope, I got Jimmy James 1972 01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:43.600 and Count Pepper. Okay, let's go to Jimmy I suppose Jimmy, 1973 01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:45.239 there you go. 1974 01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:54.720 Well yeah hopefully. Yeah, we've gotta get you to go 1975 01:53:54.960 --> 01:53:58.560 to Dell's. 1976 01:54:00.399 --> 01:54:01.880 I would love to meet that in Dallas. 1977 01:54:02.039 --> 01:54:02.720 That would be great. 1978 01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:03.319 Yeah. 1979 01:54:06.800 --> 01:54:14.720 Well, all good show and everything. Uh shout up to 1980 01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:17.239 the make and Georgia. Cocaine Bear. 1981 01:54:19.760 --> 01:54:20.800 School, my neighbor. 1982 01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:23.520 I have fast the story. 1983 01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:24.279 I need to be. 1984 01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:28.680 All right, I will get I will get on it 1985 01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:30.399 by next week for you, Jimmy, and see what I 1986 01:54:30.439 --> 01:54:32.880 can dig up. Okay, if I can dig up anything unique, 1987 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:33.560 you will have it. 1988 01:54:35.880 --> 01:54:41.560 A dog you need to me. I mean Cocaine Bear. 1989 01:54:41.760 --> 01:54:43.800 But I just thought it was like a mean. 1990 01:54:44.159 --> 01:54:47.079 I didn't know he was a real bear. It was 1991 01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:49.199 a real thing, and they made a movie out of it, 1992 01:54:49.399 --> 01:54:52.800 like two years ago, I think, and I remember that. Yeah, 1993 01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:54.079 I do remember Cocaine Bear. 1994 01:54:54.159 --> 01:54:56.199 But it was a real thing where they dropped cocaine 1995 01:54:56.239 --> 01:54:57.920 in the woods and a bear got ahold of it, 1996 01:54:58.119 --> 01:54:59.159 ate some and went crazy. 1997 01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:06.439 Uh yeah that happens. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean a 1998 01:55:06.520 --> 01:55:07.399 lot of cocaine too. 1999 01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:09.399 It wasn't a little bit of cocaine, a lot of 2000 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:13.439 kilos of cocaine and this bear, oh boy, I. 2001 01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:20.239 Thought it was a ceial box. But something who got 2002 01:55:20.319 --> 01:55:27.079 some money that day? Anyway, Thanks Jimmy, take care of Jimmy. 2003 01:55:27.119 --> 01:55:29.720 We'll talk to you. And that just leaves Count Pepper 2004 01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:32.000 before we get to your guests. So here's Count Pepper. 2005 01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:39.880 Hey, yeah, I just want to get my condolence and 2006 01:55:40.319 --> 01:55:43.279 uh I hope everyone has a safe and happy Fourth 2007 01:55:43.319 --> 01:55:44.319 of July next week? 2008 01:55:46.279 --> 01:55:48.520 Are you ready? Thank you, Thank you proper. It's great 2009 01:55:48.560 --> 01:55:50.359 to talk to you as always. Man, we'll talk to 2010 01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:56.800 you soon. Take care. And then do we still have 2011 01:55:57.079 --> 01:55:58.600 Robin Chuck? Is he still here? 2012 01:55:59.319 --> 01:55:59.359 No? 2013 01:55:59.560 --> 01:56:03.119 Everybody else is gone except your guess now guys, okay, 2014 01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:09.960 all right, so that's okay, Yeah, who would like you? 2015 01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:11.960 Who would you like to shout out to? If anybody's 2016 01:56:12.079 --> 01:56:13.079 listening out there, And. 2017 01:56:14.680 --> 01:56:19.479 I'm going to shout out to the American people, all 2018 01:56:19.600 --> 01:56:21.119 of them, all Americans. 2019 01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:28.680 Wow, great shout out? Yeah cool? All right, Well I'll 2020 01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:31.239 just shout out to you. Why, thank you for being 2021 01:56:31.319 --> 01:56:35.680 here on the show. Like we were saying, we'll organize 2022 01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:38.399 another age of transitions and maybe another Uncle show. We'll 2023 01:56:38.399 --> 01:56:40.319 see and we'll have you back. 2024 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:40.600 Man. 2025 01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:43.960 Do you want do you want to just briefly give 2026 01:56:44.079 --> 01:56:48.359 again your h or your matia authority. Yeah, okay, yeah, 2027 01:56:48.359 --> 01:56:52.079 I look good. O good? Yeah, all right, well, thank 2028 01:56:52.119 --> 01:56:57.600 you for being here again this this has been a 2029 01:56:57.680 --> 01:57:00.720 good show. And yeah, I oh once again. I have 2030 01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:03.319 no idea about Ed's situations. I'll just shout out to 2031 01:57:03.640 --> 01:57:07.159 Ed and we feel for you and the fact that 2032 01:57:07.239 --> 01:57:10.159 you are still calling is very good. I'm glad that 2033 01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:14.880 you aren't still here, and obviously we're always happy to 2034 01:57:14.920 --> 01:57:17.680 hear you calling, so hopefully will get that. And man, 2035 01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:19.760 it was a good night for callers just generally too, 2036 01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:27.000 because we didn't skip a week. Yank you and not skipping. 2037 01:57:27.520 --> 01:57:30.560 I'll see what I can do about that in the future. 2038 01:57:31.319 --> 01:57:34.359 That's the point. That's the point I'm coming through. I'm 2039 01:57:34.359 --> 01:57:36.319 not gonna make any promises on that, and I'm gonna 2040 01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:38.439 do everything I can to be here all the time 2041 01:57:38.560 --> 01:57:41.119 as as much as I can, so we'll be back everybody. 2042 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.119 Uh Uncle the podcast dot comes a website and we 2043 01:57:45.199 --> 01:57:48.760 have add Uncle podcasts on all the social media's. Press 2044 01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:50.960 the buttons on our social media if you watch the 2045 01:57:51.039 --> 01:57:53.880 YouTube or if you watch and press the button, subscribe 2046 01:57:53.920 --> 01:57:56.560 to them. And thank you everybody. 2047 01:57:56.640 --> 01:57:56.800 Uncle. 2048 01:57:56.840 --> 01:58:00.079 I wanted. Yeah, shout out. 2049 01:58:00.359 --> 01:58:00.920 One for me. 2050 01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:01.880 One guy. 2051 01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:08.720 I'm shout out to my neighbor that sorry kick couldn't 2052 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:14.399 figure out all that I knew about in TikTok. 2053 01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:17.520 I'm in shouting out to you to any time you 2054 01:58:17.600 --> 01:58:20.039 have to fee, you call me Uncle. Did some great 2055 01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:23.239 network shout out to me. Shout out to you neighbor. 2056 01:58:23.319 --> 01:58:27.079 I'm TikTok. You know who you are. You need uncle. 2057 01:58:27.319 --> 01:58:29.439 This is a great show this week. Why don't you 2058 01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:36.520 bring us on the three seventy four. Yes, that's right, 2059 01:58:38.119 --> 01:58:39.680 Bye bye, you see 2060 01:58:44.239 --> 01:58:44.479 Sure