Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,
mix in some vodka.
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in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots. Gee Ram,
It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome, Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend Daniel. It's that time of
year again.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is that.
Speaker 3: Magical time between December twenty sixth and January first, when
we start to quietly think nothing is real, nothing's really
going on. We don't know what day it is, right,
I've had to ask several times, and yet everything is
being evaluated because as we see New Year's as a
new start, right, a fresh start. Yeah, and I say,
it's actually a quiet audit.
Speaker 1: Quiet audit huh huh. I mean you're taking the class
for free.
Speaker 4: Nobody's telling you.
Speaker 3: No, nobody told you it's having there's no clipboard, this
class for free, there's no email.
Speaker 1: But so for those of you who don't know, if
you audit a class that means you don't get creded
for it.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, yeah, but your brain's like already, all right,
let's review your year.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, oh, kind of like.
Speaker 1: Those YouTube videos. I get, Hey, here's what you watched
this year? Oh okay, apparently I'm a big fan of
Dave Ruben, who knew.
Speaker 3: Uh, your brain doesn't go hey, solid job, you survived,
it goes Hey, remember that goal you set in February.
Let's go and talk about that. Yeah, we haven't done anything,
and I go. New Year's Eve is wild because one
minute you're counting down, there's confetti far everybody's happy.
Speaker 4: You're grabbing somebody maybe.
Speaker 1: By the way, tonight, if you watch all your television
on a stream, make sure you switched for the for
the countdown. Make sure you switch to like the the NTETTA,
the HD TETNA so you have it in real time,
or else you might be thirty to ninety seconds behind
the New Year. I'm just based on experience.
Speaker 3: So upsetting, right, I got it wrong, my god. But
the thing is, like, you're you're all excited right at
the end of the year, you stand up. My mother
used to have a stand up to welcome in the
new year. She used to put on a gown, wake
us up. She'd have a glass of champagne to the
new year. I'm to things, but then I go, But
then in the next moment, you're quietly comparing yourself to
someone you haven't spoken to since middle school, and go,
I should really be further along.
Speaker 1: Like they are, dude, that's every day in my life.
I call my buddy up. I go, Do you realize
that we are older than Tony Soprano? I go? Do
you realize that we are like ten years past Kevin
Arnold when he reviewed The Wonder Years? Do you realize
that we are not pro athletes? But what that the
athletes we grew up with are now like tired, yeah, retired, retired? Yeah,
well that like Josh Allen was somebody we probably would
have like watched in preschool and all of a sudden,
now he's like our hero, and what have I done?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But it's like, you know, okay, new year, clean slate,
fresh start. But also, why are we still like this?
Speaker 4: Right? That's the stuff.
Speaker 3: And I think we kind of treat the calendar reset
button like a video game where you're unlocking the next level,
you know, you know what I mean. But you wake
up tomorrow like we're recording this on New Year's Eve,
So you wake up January first, you're the same person
same personality, same habits, same phone, same pass words, You're
still gonna forget and what's really changed? And somehow overnight
you're expected to reinvent yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you feel that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think there's pressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you got to prepare around Thanksgiving? Yeah, but
then yes Christmas cubs, you're like, Okay, well I'll wait
until after. Okay, I'll wait till after. I'll wait till after.
I'll wait till after. That's why Tony Robinson is forgetting
years resolutions, because when you break them, you feel more
awful about shit.
Speaker 3: I mean, but seriously, there are there's some people that
I feel like the pressure is you have to have
let go of everything that didn't work and have a
five year plan ready by brunch, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so what's your five year plans?
Speaker 1: Well, this afternoon I'm going to do wind sprints and lift.
Tomorrow I going to take a rest day.
Speaker 3: I'd rather I'd like to talk about the quiet audit
that nobody posts. Okay, you know what I'm saying, The
things that we go back, the one that happens when
the noise downs, that dies.
Speaker 1: And you ask yourself, how did I really do? How
did I really do?
Speaker 3: And I think, like all of us think back in
the year, and I was thinking about this earlier because
for members of my family, I think this was a
you could call it a hard year.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: My brother was the one who went and kind of
boy dropped in on my dad when he was living
in Jersey and he's like, he can't live here alone anymore.
Speaker 4: Bill, He's got it.
Speaker 3: And then it was like, we're gonna move him up
in April. And then my brother ends up going down
there and it's like, we got to do it right now,
there's no time. And he comes down with a truck
and he and his wife and my sister comes up
and I wasn't involved in any of that, and so
they did all that heavy lifting and then Kevin gets
him into the new place. And then I went up
for a week with Jamison and we hung out, which
was really nice because Jamison said, I think I had
all the kids right. I was talking about this yesterday,
like I'm also I think the classes that I was
taking kind of opened my eyes to a lot of
stuff now and the actual impact that separation has on
a family and why it's so important to really try
like the people that do things like that are called nesting,
where the kids stand at You got it right, if
you're gonna if you can't be together, and it's gonna
be more detrimental really in the long term, where kids
see not great relationships modeled for them and you're better
off separate it. You know, having the one house of
the all that stuff. Putting the kids at the forefront
is so important, and it really wasn't the.
Speaker 4: Case for my situation. I didn't do that. I'm guilty
of that.
Speaker 3: So I see that now, and I as I'm watching,
you know, my brother did all the heavy lifting with that.
And then Jamison, who didn't really know my dad as
well as the other boys, said to me, as we're
walking out of restaurants, he goes, God, he is so funny.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he really is.
Speaker 3: He goes, Oh my god, he's awesome. And I was
so happy because he died four months later. Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't guess I have that moment.
Speaker 3: I didn't expect him to die four months later. And
and you know, I watched my sister, you know, and
we all went through the death, which I often say
one of the greatest gifts my dad gave me was
that last week that he hung on and my brother,
sister and I were in Maine together and we sat
on the dock one night just drinking and laughing and
having a great time and reconnecting. And I feel like
that's been really great for the three of us. But
then my sister goes away. There's a podcast that's up
that I don't know if people will kind of blow
by it or not. It's my niece and nephew really
wanted to do a podcast like they were so excited,
and I had brought some equipment with me. I have
these wireless mics and they used to fit into the
old iPhone he could record write the audio into your iPhone,
and now everything's gone to a different adapter with iPhone,
so it doesn't work. But my mom still had the
old one. So we started out a podcast with my
sister with that, but I only brought one microphone. I
should have brought too, but I only brought one. So
I wound up starting this podcast with my sister on
the Lavalier mics, and they sounded muffled to me, so
we stopped and we went downstairs and we shared one mic.
But I had done that with her son and daughter.
And it was so funny listening to the You got
to hear these kids. They're well spoken, but.
Speaker 1: They talk about everywhere they've been in the world.
Speaker 3: Dan and I go, oh, my god, Costa, Rica, Galapagos Islands, Croatia.
My nephew goes, ugh, if you don't go to France,
save your money, Yeah, save save.
Speaker 1: Your money, save mom's money.
Speaker 4: Listen, save your money. Go to d C.
Speaker 3: Because the city, the architecture. The architect that did the
city planning for Washington d C also did a Paris
so it's laid out the exact same.
Speaker 4: It's very similar.
Speaker 3: And he goes, just exchange the Eiffel Tower for the
for the Washington Monument. And I missed a line that
he said, and I heard it when I was listening back.
He said, I said, wow, I thought Paris would be great. No,
Copenhagen is the best city in Europe. I'm telling you,
it's the greatest city. But this is so great.
Speaker 4: He goes, you go to.
Speaker 3: Paris, everyone's smoking everywhere. It's awful. He goes, I guess
if you come to DC, they're all going to be vaping.
Like this kid is ten he's ten. But the point being,
like my sister then does take these big trips, and
I'll tell you why. She and her husband were going
to book a house at Bethany Beach in Delaware for
a week and they looked at the price and went,
we could go to Blank for the same amount of money.
So every year they've been going to Blank. So last summer,
after my dad died, my sister was like, I don't
know if I'm gonna have to move my vacation or
not because dad was hanging on. We didn't know, And
it was for two weeks. In August they were going
to Iceland because the youngest guy was sick of going
to beaches their vacations and he wanted something different.
Speaker 4: And then they went to Croatia and they did a beach.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you were look at a map
of Croatia, they're keeping Bosnia clearly off the away from
the beaches. We get to keep the beaches.
Speaker 3: Croatia is, from what I hear, absolutely beautiful. Yeah, everybody
speaks English, great basketball and a lot of American food
items there. I'm both I'm considering going to Croatia, but anyway,
uh So, the Croatia and then Copenhagen. While in Iceland,
they take a snowmobile trip up a glacier, to the
top of a glacier, and my sister was telling I
don't think she told the story on the podcast. She's
telling me more because I knew what happened obviously, But
she said, it's like you could hardly see the people
in front of you. Your mask is getting all wet.
You have to kind of lift it up and wipe
it off. And she goes, I'm on my own snowmobile
with my daughter and her daughter's very tall. Uh, she's
thirteen years old. And the problem is when you're driving,
it's like when you spin, your instinct maybe to turn
the way you're spinning, you should turn the opposite way
to straighten your car out. Well, when you're riding a
snowmobile an ATV, the idea is to lean into the turn.
You should kind of come out the other side. My
niece shifted the wrong way and it tipped over. Yeah,
and she was screaming and obviously very scared.
Speaker 4: Doesn't know I can't really see.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of fog, and the other snowmobilas are
just a zip and bio on these things. Yeah, I
didn't know that. So they had a guy to the
front and the guy to the back. They stopped and
I guess my niece Zara was screaming, my ankle, my ankle.
Speaker 4: So my sister was very worried.
Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, this kid's gonna have a
broken angle or we're gonna are on the top of.
Speaker 4: A glacier in Iceland. What am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: So they come over and they they're gonna lift and
my sister said, I got it and she holds.
Speaker 4: It up right.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And Katie's as a result, tore a ligament in
her thumb that then wrapped around the ustle and had
to have surgery on that.
Speaker 4: But and then toward the rotator cuff.
Speaker 3: However, however, she didn't really know and was in some
discomfort and pain. In the podcast I did with her,
I open up talking about sorry, spit everywhere to get
on a little distance on that one. Yeah. So she
she had lime disease her senior year of high school
and it really impacted her life, you know, since then,
and that's I opened the podcast kind of talking about that.
And the reason I did that was our parents weren't.
They certainly were not insensitive or ignoring any of this.
They got her to all the doctors that you could
at the time, and it turned out that the family
doctor's daughter had lime disease and he found out constant
penicillin shots helped burn it off at the time, so
that's he did that. But my sister was like, you
just kind of lived with the discomfort. You muddled through.
And my parents weren't like, you know, hey, let's lay it.
Speaker 1: It's like what Dodd I almost said about doing morning radio.
You just get used to feeling like garbage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think like she just I think she
got used to feeling like garbage.
Speaker 4: That's a great analogy.
Speaker 1: And she's like, I didn't use the word garbage, but
you get the point.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But she said, like, because there's been other health issues
where she's let things just go so long, and she's like, yeah,
I just it just And our parents weren't. They weren't
I don't want to say like they were insensitive, but
they weren't babying you.
Speaker 4: They were like, come on, let's go. Yeah, you gotta
get up, and here you gotta go.
Speaker 1: I know you still, life's not going to feel sorry
for you.
Speaker 3: I know you got this, you know, lime disease, but
you know you got to go to school.
Speaker 4: I'll drive you there. You got to go.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of the way it was. And I
think that mentality has gotten you know, pushed her through.
So it wasn't until late October that she finally went
to a doctor and goes, this is still hurting and
it's feeling worse.
Speaker 4: And they did stuff and they.
Speaker 3: Go, oh, yeah, you need surgery on the thumb, and
you need surgery on the opposite shoulder. So yeah, so
you look at that, right, So her dies. She was
part of helping moving out, move him up, move all
that shit. Going through all that. She then has this
happened her husband had broken his hand or something as well.
That was sort of what was the impetus to get
her to actually go to the doctor because she's like, because.
Speaker 4: She said, can you move it? If you can move it,
it's not broken.
Speaker 1: And age old line, right, And that's.
Speaker 3: When we were always told, I mean my hand all
fucked up because I had that mentality. So he said
to her, yeah, but it's really hurting. He went and
had an X ray it was broken, and she goes, oh,
I should probably go to the doctor and then finds
out all this shit's wrong. So we could say that
twenty twenty five was a hard year, or or I
can look at it as I and I did what
I learned. I have a friend who calls me Polly,
like Pollyanna, you know, all sunshine, because I'll write them
positive things once in a while. And I could look
at it and go, I.
Speaker 4: It was a great year. It was a great year.
Speaker 3: It had its ups and downs, but boy, I got
to see a lot more family with the passing of
my dad. I got closer with my brother and sister.
I was able to spend more time with my son.
I actually got into a program that has really made
me analyze myself for the better. You know, I've been
able to We got a new studio, new things are
happening with the podcast, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, it's it's it's funny because this past
year my wife lost her father. Yeah, I lost my
grandmother whom you know, and really I lost my grandmother
like years ago, but this is like like she actually died.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is a person who's been around your
entire life, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, like like, I'm literally not as old as
she was when I was born. That's how long she lived.
She lived to be ninety eight years old. Okay, And
I look at you know how work has been tough.
But yet at the same time, I also look at
myself and go, well, look at the strides you made
in this and and this and this. For the second
consecutive year as of right now, I have not gone
back to the hospital for no reason, right, I mean
that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know a couple of those don't say that. Yeah,
But the point is, though nothing it turned out to
not be as as scary as you had.
Speaker 1: Well, I had several health serious health issues, yeah, after
the pandemic. And yet you know, at the end of
the day, every morning, every single morning, my first words
are to God, thank you and thank you. And it
takes me, like it takes me longer every day to
thank God for everything I have. Yeah, and that's a blessing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that that's my point in this as when
you audit your year, you can look at it like, man,
what a year. Oh man, I'm really struggling with some
stuff with my kids.
Speaker 4: I was able to.
Speaker 3: You know why why Because there had to be good
stuff too, And it's all in perspective and it doesn't
change any of the story. It just is a different
way of looking at it, and I believe a healthier
way for you moving forward instead of this doom and gloom,
which is what a lot of us do when we
are when we audit our year, though we look back
and go, well.
Speaker 4: I didn't do this. I didn't do this, And I
would rather have it be to Fitchicks or texting sorry
Hi Bill.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I was. I was almost going to
make a rule that we have to leave our phones
out of the studio, but I need the phone in
here for.
Speaker 1: This, yeah, I mean for a point I'm here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And at the same time then I realized all my
texts come through my iPad anyway, the cameras run through
the iPad.
Speaker 4: Fuck it right? We were you gonna say no?
Speaker 1: Like I mean, there's two men that I have kind
of admired over the years, and one we haven't heard
from it in a while. He's been sick. Jordan Peterson,
doctor Jordan Peters, who I guess you've interviewed or paneled
with it in the other words, Tommy, But everybody can
make fun of these guys, like I know a lot
of people don't like them because they live on the
argue for your limitations side of things, the victimization things.
I'm not part of that at all because that's not
going to help you in life. It's just not okay.
There's one rule that Jordan Peterson has and is Ten
Rules for Life. He actually wrote two books. There's another
ten Rules. I haven't gotten to the second book yet.
The first book, the first rules, don't compare. Actually one
of the first rules is don't compare yourself to others.
Compare yourself to yourself.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: In other words, track your progress. Yeah, and if you're
not making progress, then make some progress, take some baby steps,
do one little thing at one little thing every single day.
By the end of the you're be like, holy col
look what we did.
Speaker 3: Remember the thing the guy made me with all the sun? Yes,
I say, the one someone else's opinion the on you
is none.
Speaker 4: Of your business.
Speaker 3: No, your business.
Speaker 4: That's part of our comparison thing, which is what.
Speaker 1: I told you. What I said that I go somebody
else's opinion to me is none of my.
Speaker 3: Business, right, And I've been saying that for a long
time as well, because I had heard it from I
don't remember somebody, and that really hit me. I want
to sit down and.
Speaker 1: Write down all the rules that I've learned from you
and Tom Mulay I called ten Rules of the I
would call it the break room. But now that that's
taken on a different incarnation, So like the ten rules
of Ule and Moran, Oh gosh, the biggest rule, like,
life's not about you man. Number two, don't take yourself
too seriously.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Number three, when you argue facts, you could say whatever
you want. Number four, if you continue to do what
you've always done, you'll continue to get what you've always gotten.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Number five, if you want to do something, you'll make
the effort. And if you don't really want to do something,
you'll find the excuse. I use that with my wife
all the time. Yeah, that's just five. The book's gonna
come out next March. Is it self published? Yeah? Yeah,
I'm gonna have the a I write it, like, hey,
write a book about these ten rules?
Speaker 3: Why not? Why a funk not?
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna have the ais against each other,
see which.
Speaker 3: Produces just fucking do it? Like even if it's just
a pamphlet and see if you could sell it for
a dollar time.
Speaker 1: I want naming right, check this out. I also want
a case of Jamison. I love that man, but like
to go back to my original point with Jordan Peters.
Tony Robbins. If you know people get rip on me
for this, but if you know Tony Robin's story, you'd
appreciate him more. Like he had four dads, yeah, okay,
and he came from nothing and yet but he was
so self motivated to the point where he became not
just a self help guru he calls himself, because I'm
not your guru.
Speaker 4: It's a great uh stock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've watched it. He goes. Jim Roan was his
was his mentor, and he learned and he took jim
ron stuff to the next level. And it's not just
self help, it's self motivation. It really like, if you
want to do something, you will. If you don't, you'll
find an excuse. He did a podcast recently with a
married couple. I don't know what the podcast was. And
he goes on, he goes, here's three rules for this year. Okay,
increase your energy. You gotta stop comparing yourself to other people.
It's funny that you brought this up. You can't control
the outside world, but what you can't control us is
your world internally and how you respond to things. Okay,
so make these three decisions, he says. Number one, it's funny.
I watched this last night. I wrote this down right
before you call. He goes, what are you going to
focus on? Because really what you focus on is your experience. Yeah,
it's all in your mind. Your experience is all in
your mind, like your nephew, like going to Copenhagen. That's
the best, you know, because that was his experience. His
focus was on the cigarettes in Paris versus like the
weed Copenhagen. I think he was enlightened. And I don't
know that it's Copenhagen.
Speaker 3: Well, I just said to somebody last night because his
wife is from Sweden and he had on a sweatshirt
and I go, I go, where is that? And he
said it's Sweden. I said, oh, And he goes, where
did you think it was? I said, I don't know.
I was just talking to my niece and nephew about Copenhagen.
I thought, there, He goes, it's right across the bridge
from Copenhagen, I said, my kit, my niece, and if.
Speaker 4: You love that city goes.
Speaker 3: It is a great city, one of the best in
the world, which I never would think of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, right, I just thought of the tobacco.
You know, coffee.
Speaker 3: I think coffee Copenhagen.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a type of Uh, it is it is?
Speaker 4: It is? I forgot I never did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But number one, what are you going to focus on?
Because that's what your experience, your focus ecues, your reality,
which is your feelings. Okay, so if you choose to
like where your focus goes, your energy flows. So like
whatever you attach meaning to, that's gonna be your meaning.
Because number two, which leads to number two, what does
this all mean? Make it mean whatever you want to mean,
not what you Oh, by default mechanism thinks, oh this sucks. No,
because the meaning is going to create the emotion, and
the emotion's going to drive you one way or the other. Okay,
So number one, what are you going to focus on?
Number two? What does this mean? What are you going
to allow it to mean to you? And number three
take that emotion to drive your decisions because to your
decision or what control your life. Your mind is not you,
it's your soul. Your soul is you. Your mind plays games,
but your soul. That's the essence of Bill Moran and
Danbrello and you the listener. Focus on what you could
control and use that.
Speaker 3: Yes, but everything you're saying is something that I have
also said for a long time. And I even take
it into like the more spiritual side of things, because
I do believe life has lived in your mind.
Speaker 4: It totally is.
Speaker 3: And as you're saying, that was my nephew's experience in Copenhagen.
If my nephew had gotten hit by a car, yeah,
broke his leg, it may not be the best city
in the world because that wasn't his experience. But I
also think that life is a mirror. And so if
you're getting like what reflected back you ever go, I
knew that was going to happen, Well, yeah, because you
set it up that way.
Speaker 1: Tell me, did not tell me? What did that tell me?
Speaker 3: I really believe that there is like a greater consciousness, God,
source whatever that you.
Speaker 4: Can tap into Jesus.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, okay, I just I think there's
something that you can tap into and you can just
live better, and you have to realize, like you take
things hereious, it's like how are you gonna handle stuff?
And sometimes you know what God made people who created
chemicals and things. If you're having a hard time and
you just need something that's gonna keep you a little
buoyant instead of always looking at the negative, go for it.
Take a fuck it. I don't know, just because I
think it's gonna it just makes life better. You don't
have to live in misery. You just don't. It's your choice.
It's really your choice. And I think that to me,
it's like different frequencies, different radio stations. I can't hear
what's on ninety six point five when I'm listening to
ninety five point one and vice versa. So it's you know,
you got to tune into what are you gonna your
Your brain is really a receptor. I mean it's like yes,
and people often go, uh, well, what do you mean.
The way the only way I can explain this is
I remember, and I think she did an.
Speaker 4: Episode about it on I Love Lucy.
Speaker 3: But she was driving by a radio station or down
by a radio station in California and all of a
sudden there was oh, it's like playing in her head. Well,
how can it play in your teeth?
Speaker 1: There's no speaker like the the filling, right, the metal filling.
Speaker 3: No, the metal fillings picking up the reception. Yeah, but
what's that then? What's broadcasting your fucking head? Yes, your
fucking head. She was hearing the stuff. And other people
have said that has happened. There was some kind of
transdust that was put on teeth back then or whatever,
and it could work. Well, I mean, that's your brain
picking up a signal. I mean, and I know people go, wow,
it was the tooth was the Well, how my tooth
doesn't have a speech?
Speaker 1: A speak?
Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying. So this is a receiver.
So what are you gonna let in.
Speaker 1: Right right wherever you choose to leave?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean everything you're saying, But even on a
on your spiritual side of things, what are you gonna
let in? It's the same thing what Tony says, what
Jesus said, they're very similar.
Speaker 1: Let's not compare the two.
Speaker 4: But I guess I'm not saying the same. I'm saying
that they were.
Speaker 1: I just want that out I know you're not. I
want that out there.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that if the messages are are you know,
somewhat the same. I mean that's what I would say, like,
go forth, go forth and tell no one, Go forth
and tell no one right in the center of this.
And the reason I always say this is because people
are gonna from the best interest from their I mean,
they're gonna, hey, you know, I want my advice on this,
and sometimes we are looking for somebody's advice and then
they fucking ship all over your dream.
Speaker 4: I tried that.
Speaker 3: If you ever watched to tell you something, I was
gonna do a podcast. Okay, I tried a podcast, right.
Speaker 1: You ever see the first episode of Modern Family, the
pilot episode, It is loaded with that. So one of
the couples want to adopt a baby, and they've already
adopted the baby, and of course Al Bundy slash and
O'Neil slash Jay, who really reinvented himself as an actor
with this role, going from being Al Bundy to being
this grandfather slash stepfather slash father, and he goes, you
don't want to do that, Why would you want to
do that? And then Cam the fat guy comes out
with the baby. It does the whole circle of life
thing with little uh with the Asian baby. I forgot
her name, and all of a sudden, everybody's, everybody's mind
set completely changes when they see that child. Put a
face to the pain, right a sudden. Suppose he's beautiful.
Oh my gosh, look at the baby. Look at the baby.
Speaker 3: But a face to the love.
Speaker 1: Right now, take your dreams and make them that baby. Yeah,
the hell with everybody else, The heck with everybody else. Well,
and what they think now they do care about you, yes,
but part of it is.
Speaker 3: But they're telling you. Yes, it's not even that. It's
like it didn't work for me. I'll give you a
great example.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my radio I was you can't really say that.
Speaker 1: I uh, that's true. I did fourteen years a hard time. Yeah,
I and a lot of friends.
Speaker 3: I was going to use radio as an example I had.
I had a friend who lived around the corner and
he went to a college. He was a little older
than me. I had baby sat Us. Our families were close.
I love this guy, still in touch with them. Lives
now where we are, and came, actually drove back down
from my dad's memorial service, and he and his brother came.
He was a communication major at a school up in
this area and was saying to me, uh, you know
something about well, what would you do when I was
going radio? And he's like, yeah, everybody wants to get
on radio. I was communication maybe or no, I'm not
doing anything in the communication field. And for whatever reason,
and I don't know what this is.
Speaker 4: I don't there is.
Speaker 3: It's it's not a cockiness. It's a supreme confidence that
I think all three of us, meaning my brother's sister
and myself somehow have like even my sister.
Speaker 4: I said, you are so.
Speaker 3: Confident and she's like, I not, I'm not I And
I was saying to her because she said, like, I mean,
give you an example. You got to go listen to
this podcast because I really, really really think that it
is fantastic.
Speaker 4: It's funny.
Speaker 1: Your family's a riot.
Speaker 4: No, she's really.
Speaker 3: Kate doesn't want to talk. I didn't put cameras on us,
so there's no video of it. But it was really good.
But I said to her, she was telling me about
when she had lime disease. There were some people's so
they sent her to a rheumatologist and the rheumatologist goes,
there's no rheumatoid arthritis. And she said, uh, that would
be a good thing, right, But he said, I think
you should go see a psychologist. Now why would he
say that. He would say that because he believes you
have convergence. And convergence is what they believe, the young ladies,
and I think that's kind of what it was. And
le Roy had remember when the girls had the texts
and there were more and more and more of them
not saying that you didn't have something that was going
on in your body, but that it began in your
mind and that sometimes that's it. And then and if
you take apart the words disase, disease in the body,
a lot of people tell you it starts in the mind, yes, right,
And when you're told the diagnosis, that's why so many
people get so much worse when they were just good.
Speaker 1: Last Saturay, guy in a white coat with multiple degrees
told you so, right. And I'm not saying you should
you should discount that one hundred, but you become resigned
to it, yes, right. Like I have an ex mother
in law whom has a disease, and my ex father
in lawed at least ten years ago when I was
still married to my ex wife said her disease hasn't
changed in fifteen years. Yeah, but she continued to get worse.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Why because you keep thinking about it and it could
be or it could be over time. I mean, I
don't want to say that to people, but I believe you,
like I hear what you're saying, and I do think
that there is a thing.
Speaker 4: It's convergence.
Speaker 3: And my sister said to the guy she's sitting in
his room. She's seventeen maybe eighteen years old, and I
had to stop and I go because what I'm about
to say to you, I said to her, this is
a script out of nine oh two one zero written
by a grizzled forty five year old writer coming out
of the mouth of a supposed eighteen year old.
Speaker 4: This is what my sister said.
Speaker 3: She said, We're sitting in the office with the doctor,
and the doctor said, you don't have a inventory earthritis.
I don't think it's anything. I'm going to refer you
to a psychologist. And my sister said to him, I'm
not faking this. This is my senior year of high school.
And that's not how she started. I think she said,
is that your daughter behind you in a picture and
he said, yeah, she's twenty years old. She said, we're
of a similar age. What would you do if I
were your daughter? She said, I have missed half my
senior year. Do you think I'm making this up? She goes,
I'm in constant discomfort and I'm listening to it and
I'm paraphrasing. You got to go back and listen to
how she actually said it. And I stopped her and
I go, you really said that to him? And she
said yeah. She goes, I was so pissed because I
was in such discomfort. And my thing was, there's a
supreme confidence, like you got to be confident. She didn't
yell it, she didn't yell it at the doctor, but
to be eighteen and step up against somebody. And I
said to her, you know the problem in life is
that whether we want to believe this or not, our
life is about feelings and how we feel in a moment.
Thus the perspective, Copenhagen's a great city. I didn't get
hit by a car and break my leg right. And
I think Tony Robbins does this with a party. Doesn't
he have an example of a party. He went to
a party and somebodays man that was a roaring good time.
And somebody else you know who sat in the corner
and you know, had a drink spilled on and goes, yeah,
that was the shittiest party I've ever been.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one party, and I think like it was one
of our innercop Christmas parties. Actually is that a bag
of coke?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Dombermer he in that story quick sidebar, some sue Munn
found or somebody found an empty bag of white powder
had powder residue, and she goes, should we call the police?
In dem Jones like no, no.
Speaker 3: Throw it out.
Speaker 1: I don't And somebody goes, that was a party. Oh
so it probably was coke, Yeah, that or baking powder, yeah,
or fake snow for the fake I don't know how
big was the bag. I think the bag was about
that's a big bag for coke. That's a lot of coke.
You I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't remember, no, no, no, I'm but I do
remember this happened.
Speaker 4: Have you been offered coke?
Speaker 1: Uh no, I've been offered opium. Have you ever seen coke?
And I was like, uh no, live no, I got
offered opium by a dude. On the street coming out
of Marks, Texas hots when I was a senior in college.
That's it. I said, no, you keep that, that's for you.
Oh thanks, brother, that's it. I've never seen coke.
Speaker 4: Okay, so cocaine.
Speaker 3: A lot of people will they keep it in a
very tiny baggie, really tiny.
Speaker 1: Bagg Oh my gosh, yes I have. I was lift driving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: I got a call from Lyft saying somebody forgot their
car keys. Can I go back and deliver them? I go,
hang on, I got you on the phone. I'm looking.
I don't see any car keys. I I do fight.
I did fight this little plastic baggy though that looks
like oh and I just threw it out the fit.
I just I just now love car keys. The car
keys was the code for the coke. Yeah, I had
no idea. I'm like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not doing
this anymore. Yeah, well, I mean, but yeah, you're right,
it's a very tiny bed.
Speaker 4: Usually it's usually a tiny bag.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's not like we got zip blockbags keeping the freshness right.
It's got the greeds. The greeds seal.
Speaker 3: I will say that when it comes to like where
I was talking about there's a supreme confidence. And I
don't mean this in a cocky way, but when I
remember that guy saying this to me, like I'm not
using my degree, and the thought in my head at
the moment was that's you, not me.
Speaker 1: Right now.
Speaker 3: I never articulated that. I didn't think I would have
this amazing radio. That wasn't what I was saying. I
was just thinking of going, that's you, not me, that's
you not me. I remember the same thing little league,
going to a tryout. Somebody said to me, oh, my
brothers this girl. My brothers tried out and they didn't
make it, and I and I remember thinking, I was
nine years old, that's them, not me. Doesn't mean I'm
gonna make it. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just
saying that just because that's your experience, someone else's experience
doesn't mean it's mine. And many times though we do
take the advice of somebody else, what a shitty restaurant,
I won't go there. I've heard that about a certain
specific restaurant. I've gone to that restaurant twice now, and
I loved it both times. I mean, I might drank
a lot, So maybe that was it, but I had
no problem with it.
Speaker 1: This is good fun.
Speaker 3: Do uh.
Speaker 4: I think that.
Speaker 3: I think what you've said and what I've tagged onto
some of that. It's great advice for people as you
aughtit the year. Yeah, just think about that. You don't
have to do it that one way. And Dandy gave
you some great steps and how to move forward to
the New York with good stuff.
Speaker 4: What are you doing New Year's Eve?
Speaker 1: New Year's Z I was just gonna chill with my boo.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's it. Yeah, just the two of us. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And do you do any like self improvement? You know,
my sister does with their kids. Every year they do
a vision board for the year.
Speaker 1: My wife does that, she does Yeah, yeah, my wife
does that. I just write stuff down and be like, hey,
look here's what I improve upon this year, and I've
done it, and you've improved. Oh yeah, yeah, Like I've
exercised more this year than I've ever exercised before this
past year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Now, I'd like to learn a lot. I found that
my passion in life really, when you boil it down,
is learning. It's learning stuff. I love to learn stuff.
It's the retention part that I have a problem with Yeah,
you know, like so I have to read something twice
under the like to really get it. Like like I've
read the Bible like twelve times and I'm like, oh,
I don't remember this part Nexodus.
Speaker 4: Well, what about audio?
Speaker 1: Audio is good? But here's the thing while I'm working,
it's hard to like listen to a podcast or audio
while working at.
Speaker 3: The same time. Is instead of reading a book, what
if you took a walk and listened to the book.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, well here's would that retain it better? It might?
I've tried that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have to actively take notes though, because I'll hear
a word like audio and I'll think, oh, I have
an audio board at home. I'm like, you know, I
really need to like learn how to use this audio board.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Bill Moran and I could start talking ADHD. Yeah, I
put diagnosed with ADHD. So what do you every acronym
except for the game one I have.
Speaker 4: LGDBQ question.
Speaker 3: I don't have that one, at least not Yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 1: There's only twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: I did say this, and it's interesting that you're here
because I think you would be someone who appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Bill would well.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: My brother in law, whose herd is bigger than his brain,
appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Clark.
Speaker 3: I I heard something and I said this on the
yesterday's podcast. One of the things I hope for the
new year is that both sides of the political aisle.
Why not make these like its statements without some kind
of fact packing it up. And here's what I heard recently,
And it was one that I thought was interesting because
I think there's a lot of people who would go
it makes sense. And in there was a part of
this person's speech. I don't know what it was or
discussion that I agreed with because it made sense.
Speaker 4: And I'll give you both.
Speaker 3: But the first one was the one that bothered me
was this eighty percent of professors at college campuses are liberal.
That may be true. I wish you would back that
up with a depuse study or or a poll of
whatever shows that. However, I think that most people would go, well, yeah,
and there is more people who are academically inclined seem
to be a little more open minded to things, and
they do seem to stay on that side of the aisle.
I am not saying that there are people on the
other side of the aisle who are brilliantly smart, not
gonna that's not my argument, right, But I go, but
that's a.
Speaker 1: I think it's a different cross section of people on
that side of the all they're out like doing and
learning or not doing or doing and earning.
Speaker 3: So there's so right away, like, but you can see
where people go good. I go, that just seems a
little high to me, But I don't know. And then
it was. And then you get these professors who are
like an art teacher, and you take an art class
as an electorate and they're just shoving their liberal agenda
down your throat.
Speaker 1: And I went, well, teaching how to paint?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I go, how do you know where's the
where is.
Speaker 4: The proof of that?
Speaker 3: Most of the people I hear say that stuff haven't
been on a college campus in thirty years. Some of
them have never been on a college campus that say that.
So I go, it fits the narrative of that. I'm
not saying it like it fits right. It's a stereotype
sort of, and you can see where it would fit.
But I my argument would be, I've been on a
college campus now, for that's more than most people have
been back on the college campus, specifically at my age right,
I'm in my mid fifties. The I didn't see that,
certainly didn't see it from professors. What I did see,
and especially because I'm in a counseling program, is an
attempt to be understanding. But there were boundaries. You understand
what I'm saying, like you, maybe this way, I'll try
to meet you where you are.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean I'm pushing going there, right, Do you
get it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I will listen to you. Yes, Like you've
always said, when you argue facts, you can say whatever
you want. So let's listen.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So, but that's where I'm going. I wish there would
be like I know somebody who was at x y
Z University and left the class because they felt like
that's more powerful to me than you know, this one
blanket statement, because I don't I'm not sure that that's
exactly true, and I would say it.
Speaker 4: Also on the other side, here's what I do say.
Speaker 3: Often, well, your things where uh President Trump said today
put out a and I'll sometimes I mean, there.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: There's stuff that guy says that you're like, he didn't
really say that, and then you find out he really
said it. But there's a lot of times where I
go he didn't say that, no, and I'm I'm not
a fan, but I can look at something and go
he didn't say that. And this other person kept talking
about we need more critical thinking, and I'm like, critical
thinking isn't painting with a broad brush. That's not critical thinking.
Speaker 1: No, it's a chisel.
Speaker 3: Saying that eighty percent of we don't unless you have
some study, don't say don't paint with the broad brush
to say, I believe again in your opinion, majority are this.
Here's why I say. That is way different than painting
with the broad brush. And I hope on both sides,
because we can't paint just because it fits. Oh that
sounds like something Donald Trump will say. Sometimes I go,
there's no way, and then I'll look. And although he
never did, he.
Speaker 1: Didn't say like like the like. The most famous example
is back somebody put up with a meme around the
time he got a the first time. And it was
a meme when you know the like the picture in
the big black white and black and white letters.
Speaker 5: They said, if I were going to run for president,
I would run as a Republican because Republican voters are
so stupid, say John Oliver, who's left of left, goes
he never said that.
Speaker 4: Okay, good, I'm really glad he never said that.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad, and I'm really glad it was a
guy on the left that said it, because that's important
that we're all looking for some kind of truth, because
that's painting with a broadbrush. We believe that it fits
the narrative of Donald Trump or people on that side.
That's not fucking fair. You don't want that done to you.
Speaker 1: Like the other day, Elon got fact checked by his
own app on Rock. Okay, I mean so like and
now I will say this. I mean they have shown
the Harvard acceptance rates of the races, who gets accepted
to what. Okay, you can't dispute those. Those are facts.
But here's a form that I've created. Yeah, I can't
wait for twenty twenty six because there's a lot of this.
I'm just asking questions, Like Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens have
become just absolutely insufferable when it comes to asking questions
because does Bill moranblou Goats. I'm just asking the question.
It's it's that monkey, it's that it's that type of stuff. Right,
here's what you bring it down. Ask critical questions. In
other words, whatever you hear, ye mimes, make it make sense. Well,
that's all I ask. So I don't care what side
of the ledger you're on. Make it make sense. You
make a statement, back it up. Let me don't just generalize.
Give me concrete evidence to suggest that this is in
fact true. You see what's going on in Minnesota with
that twenty four year old citizen journalist with the Somalis
and the daycars. Wow, that's that's pretty factual, pretty evidential.
Speaker 4: But here me.
Speaker 3: My father used to say something, and I said, to
somebody wants to go that is ridiculous. When my father
used to say, when nothing makes sense, something makes sense.
Speaker 4: In other words, dig a little deeper.
Speaker 3: Because when nothing makes sense, when it doesn't like, doesn't
compute for you, it means there's something else going on.
Speaker 4: Right, there's something else going on. And you know, going.
Speaker 3: Back to uh, because we're kind of all over the place.
Speaker 4: I had several thoughts. I don't know I got all day,
but I need I don't I need? UH? What?
Speaker 3: No, I got to buy a belt? I can't find
my fucking belt, my pants keep falling down?
Speaker 1: Are you spanking Jamison? And he hit, I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I don't know where my belt.
Speaker 1: I used to do that.
Speaker 3: How a kid?
Speaker 1: I used to hide my father's belts.
Speaker 3: How about this? How about this is oh he did?
How about this is a reputation. I go to get
my hair cut this morning. A woman's talking to me
about stuff and she's like, uh, I heard from me
in a while. She says, to be what's going on?
Speaker 4: I go, ah, you know it was good?
Speaker 3: Buh? I go, I can't find my belt And she goes,
whose bedroom floor is that? Or something to that effect,
And I'm like, am I that dude? Do I come
across that way?
Speaker 4: Like some like you know.
Speaker 1: It sucks like I hate perception because it's fine.
Speaker 3: It was sort of flattering. She meant it in a way.
Speaker 1: When I played in the band, somebody once said, you
know you have a bit of a reputation. Like, Okay,
name all the chicks I've been with. I go, go,
you want to make it make sense? I go, name it.
Speaker 4: She goes, well she couldn't.
Speaker 1: She goes, you know what, You're right?
Speaker 3: Dan was the late dad you had.
Speaker 1: Ladies liked you they did. I was single and I
was dating, but I wasn't like, you know, like you know,
like checking my oil every night, all right, and she
couldn't come up with anybody. Got that's my point. She goes,
I go. She goes, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
I go, yeah, yeah, I go. Just because I play
in a band doesn't mean that I lived that lifestyle.
This is like ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I would not even fight back in that stuff, like
to me, but I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, you know what,
let's just put it to the test.
Speaker 3: I just think things are sometimes just noise. And I
often think, like, if you go back to what other
people think of me as none of my business, right,
hard to do, easy to say, hard to do because
our feelings get hurt, right, and so that because people
think of me right well, and I just said the
same thing. But at the same time, I go in
a way, that's that's a that's cool, that's a all
right reputation. I mean, even if the woman said, oh, yeah,
you have a reputation, you go, you could just said yes,
I do, because that's something I would say. We be like,
yes I do, and I know that when this is
the bad thing about human beings.
Speaker 4: They're competitive.
Speaker 3: So why is it that the Pete Davidson's the greatest
fucking example ever.
Speaker 1: I wish you would have continued his butt cause show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, but but he's the greatest example with women.
Speaker 1: Because he's not attractive. No, he's got a terrible team.
Speaker 3: It's a it's Arion the ground Day, it's Kim Kardashian,
it's some other hot one.
Speaker 4: It's another hot one.
Speaker 3: And now I can say I think at one, Yes,
really yes, because why why why? Yes, he's funny, he's charming,
but the other hot chicks gave him the hot chick vote.
Speaker 4: He got that, he got the hot chick vote.
Speaker 1: He's got the hot two boobs up right.
Speaker 3: So if this chick said to you you have a reputation,
you've got the hot chick vote, that's all you need.
Speaker 4: That's all you need.
Speaker 1: Man, No, fucking this was like years ago.
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just giving an example. I just I don't
want people to walk away with that. Well no, I mean,
come on.
Speaker 4: I know you're married, and.
Speaker 1: That's that's that does mean something to me.
Speaker 3: I understand. It means something to you. But that doesn't
mean everybody has a past. It's okay if there's nothing
wrong with that.
Speaker 1: Issue.
Speaker 3: Ah, here we go again. You're gonna beat yourself up again,
and that's not what we're doing.
Speaker 1: I beat myself up.
Speaker 3: I have a pass that I have been the worst.
Like that podcast we did where you talked about I
was the word don't do that to Daddy, to.
Speaker 1: Dan to Dan.
Speaker 3: I wanted to say something else about my sister because
I think there's people who've been in this situation where
a doctor is saying like, this is probably in your head,
and I just want to say this about some things.
Where I started to say, life is feelings, right, I
really believe that we all have God inside us a director,
and it's our intuition and it is our feelings.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: We know we basically know the right thing to do.
If we went inside and actually looked, we could we
could find the answer.
Speaker 4: To a lot of our issues and things.
Speaker 3: And it's your godlike you're made in his image, right. So,
but I do think when it comes to business, there
is no feelings. So when people are let go from
companies or they start downsizing or whatever fucking company's shitheads.
Speaker 4: But we were scared.
Speaker 1: We feel bad for the people that got let go.
Speaker 3: We had friends with them, We were whatever, and it's
not a pleasant time in anybody's life, right.
Speaker 4: But business is about.
Speaker 3: Making money or losing money. It's one or the other
that's going to happen, and this is a way to
keep the ship aflow. I think when it comes to doctors,
there's either this makes sense or doesn't make sense. So
if I'm a rheumatologist and there's nothing there, therefore it
must be in your head. Because I'm not saying that
I'm the greatest rheumatologists. I'm not telling you don't have
a second opinion. But in my expertise and in my education,
there's nothing there, and so you almost have to be cold,
like you know where My sister then reaches to the
emotional side and goes, is that your.
Speaker 4: Daughter, what would you do?
Speaker 3: Right? Brilliant in a way to do that to somebody
to bring them back. But I think a lot of
times when we're dealing with doctors, will hear some have
great bedside manners, some have terrible bedside manner.
Speaker 4: But he's great. It's job.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, but I got your house. But
I think if they make if it either makes sense
or it doesn't, we'll keep digging to keep We'll keep
digging till we find it. But if you're out of
my all, I am is a rheumatologist. I'm a specialist
in this, and you don't have it right, So what
makes sense?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: I think when you deal with doctors, we get mad
at them.
Speaker 3: That doctor's side, No he didn't. You just it's not
you did one. You didn't get the answer you wanted. Yeah, right,
because you wanted something and you have to money.
Speaker 1: I'm fine, you have cancer.
Speaker 4: I'm fine, I do I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Uh, which brings me to point number three. Find the motivation, Yeah,
find the motivation in yourself. Find the motivation in somebody else.
Why are they this way? What's their motivation? Why are
they like this? So you could understand them a little bit,
I would, and then know how to approach the situation.
Speaker 3: Try to go into your head and look at yourself
in the future. Yeah, and start acting like that.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: What would the version of Dan Barillo the author be
or whatever you were saying right, or or or the
comic or whatever. That is why I wear an ascot.
Speaker 1: Well, yes, smoking jacket and a pipe.
Speaker 4: What would he have?
Speaker 1: The fourth chapter of Animal we talk about motivation.
Speaker 4: What would he be doing?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: You know they say dressed for the job you want. Yeah,
think in terms of the person you want to be.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yes, yeah, go motivate about
a about a A, but go into the future. Yes. Yes,
So when you say motivation, a lot of people go,
I can't find the motivation or or motivation or I'm
so depressed.
Speaker 4: You gotta start feeling better about yourself.
Speaker 3: You gotta start taking care of yourself.
Speaker 4: Gotta start start.
Speaker 1: With a walk, one label, one layer at a time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one layer.
Speaker 1: At a time, which takes me to the Buffalo bills.
Oh dude, you want to talk about motivation.
Speaker 4: Wow, you sent me something.
Speaker 3: On Instagram? Do you remember what you sent me?
Speaker 1: Was it a picture of Jesus? I don't remember what
I sent you.
Speaker 3: You don't remember what you sent me?
Speaker 1: Was it Colin Cower talking about the team?
Speaker 3: It was not Colin Coward talking about the team. You
sent me something else.
Speaker 1: Let me, uh hold on, let me Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull it up and but tell me as
you were watching the game. I want to know the
thoughts and the feelings that Dan Marilla was having when
the Eagles were beating the shit out of the Buffalo
Bills in the first half.
Speaker 1: Well, my thought was, and it continued throughout the game.
It was a theme. And that is And I as
much as I love Joshua Patrick Allen, and I've said publicly,
I would massages hamstrings with evaporate of the milk I
were asked to him and I'm not even like that,
but he's not above reproach. And josh Allen was the
reason that they were in that game, but it was
also the reason they lost that game.
Speaker 3: I'm really glad that you and nobody.
Speaker 1: Wants to say that. Yeah, but I'll say it because
damn it, I know every word that comes out of
my mouth. Okay, And if you watch the game, and
I watched it again last night, so sad, why is it?
I watched a condensed version.
Speaker 3: To watch the pave again like I felt, I don't.
Speaker 1: I went into the game thinking they were going to lose.
So if they had won, it.
Speaker 3: Was gravy, I know, But if they pulled it out,
like josh just it was like he was on the run.
I don't know how you make.
Speaker 1: That, especially with a bum foot and bum back. All
he had to do was take a breath, just float
the ball. But it's easy for us to say, of course.
But he also missed Brandon Cooks on a touchdown. He
missed Brandon Cooks on a second touchdown where he didn't
even throw them the ball he tried to run to
the end zone. Okay, he's used to getting his way
with calls. Like if you ever noticed, when he gets hit,
he's already yelling to the ref before he hits the ground.
He hit me. That's a Tom Brady Patrick Mahomes thing.
I don't want that in my star quarterback. I don't
want him to be lebroning for calls. Okay, here's the
thing he's used to getting his way with. And that
quote fumble. That was a fumble. Now to the letter
of the law, it was a tuck and the ball
should it should have been you know, the balls should
have been spotted right there. But guess what, when you
leave it in the hands of the officials, you're at
the mercy of the officials. And while Dean Blandino agreed
that that was a tuck at an incomplete pass. They
didn't rule it that way, and Philadelphia went down the
field and scored that game. That loss was on the
same dude who has rescued the team so many times
and you can only pull games out of here, took
us in the fourth quarter so many freaking times.
Speaker 4: Can I also say this?
Speaker 3: That defense, the Buffalo Bills defense in the second half
was really impressive.
Speaker 1: Do you realize that that was Jalen Hurts didn't complete
a pass.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they had one hundred and something maybe
seventy four yards of offense in the first half.
Speaker 4: Is that the Eagles? I think listen to the status seven.
This is the stack.
Speaker 1: This is the stat You're gonna love this. Yeah, the Eagles.
If you include the final kneel down, ran eighteen plays
in the second half. You take the heel down out
of it, you have seventeen plays for seventeen yards. Yeah,
the second half of my Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So I mean and if you not spot in the
short fields that they had, I mean, build win that game.
Speaker 4: Yeah at Josh and not fumbled on that, you know, right,
So that's.
Speaker 1: A that's a ten to fourteen point swing.
Speaker 3: But do you think, like you know, we're talking about
New Year's and people putting the pressure on themselves, is
does Josh have it feel like it really comes down
to him?
Speaker 1: Yes, he has no confidence in his receivers. I gotta
do it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I see that one run that he took. Yeah, he
just kept going, why I gotta win the game? I know.
And because of that, he's getting tunnel vision. He's not
seeing the receivers. He's not seeing Brandon Cooks out to
the flank to the right. He's not leading Khalil secure
Like Tom Brady had a heck of a game on
Sunday broadcasting that game and he by the way, he
may not be back next year. I'll get to that
in a second. But but he if he leads Shakir,
he threw several balls behind receivers that could have been touchdowns.
He's not And you can say, well, it's his ankle
while he's carrying the team. He needs to go back
to those drills that he had on hard knocks, or
he is steady and throwing the ball. It's hard, though,
when you got a bunch of a bunch of defenders
coming at you and there's only four of them, and
the Eagles ran a lot of stunts, meaning guys who
are like switching positions and going that offensive line is
not as good as everybody thinks it is. Yeah, they've
gone from fourteen sacks allowed to forty same quarterback. That's
a lot. Yeah, I don't that's triple the amount of
the number of sacks that they've allowed.
Speaker 3: Now, before you get to the Tom bradything, I do
want to play This is what Dan sent me on Instagram,
and they went, oh yeah, yeah, but let me play
it because I.
Speaker 1: Three forty five Park Avenue conspiracy.
Speaker 3: Let me hand let me see if I can start
it again. And I think we should be connected now.
But this is Dan this to me, and I think
there are people that I may agree with you, I
don't or may agree with this. I should say not
with you, because I don't know where you stand on this,
but let me see.
Speaker 6: Sounds crazy, But the NFL source did reveal the Super
Bowl script to me, and I just I just wanted
to mention it. I don't want to mention at the
top because everyone wants.
Speaker 1: The top casual fans. The real ones come.
Speaker 6: In eighteen minutes, and so I just want to mention,
I'm not making this up.
Speaker 3: This is from a real source.
Speaker 4: Do you think this is a joke.
Speaker 6: Source Bill's Rams, super Bowl, Bill's Rails or in the
super Bowl Stafford Josh Allen. This sounds crazy, But what.
Speaker 4: Do you think?
Speaker 1: I would love that? Yeah, except for the fact that
if that, if that scenario did play out, that I'd
be like sitting there super Bowl Week going, oh gosh,
this is really focused.
Speaker 3: So I thought, there's two things that can come out
of this. One is, if that happens, this guy's tell
on this is something that we have people have suspected.
Speaker 1: It'll be the biggest stretch ever because it would be
two wild card teams getting to the super Bowl that's
never happened before.
Speaker 3: And the other is that if he's wrong, while people
go will they changed the script and got out right?
Speaker 1: Remember the year that those two years ago, Baltimore and
San Francisco was supposed to be in the super Bowl.
Remember like the not the TV guide, but the guide
if you fast forwarded to the Super Bowl, it would
say Baltimore Ravens at San Francisco forty nine ers super
Bowl fifty eight. Yeah, right, And it was like see
you look at the colors, it's purple and red. And
then oh, we gotta do something here. Chief's gotta win.
We gotta get Taylor Swift in the super Bowl. So
that was the other conspiracy. It was one replaced with another.
Speaker 3: Do you believe this in any way? And no, I
don't at all, Okay, because I'm watching and to me,
I'm watching players do amazing things, really amazing things. Like
I thought, Atlanta, you're gonna tell me that was like scripted.
Speaker 4: That win.
Speaker 3: I mean, they gave up a million of the rams,
came charging back in the second half. They just couldn't
couldn't hold on. The bills came charging back. They just
couldn't hold on. They just couldn't get that two point conversion.
And I'm so glad they went for the two point conversion.
Speaker 4: To be honestly, you.
Speaker 1: Haven't really happen to realize the amount of acting that
has to go.
Speaker 3: On, and yet you can't get that many people. I
always say, I'm always wondered, I'll go back. I always
wonder about the Menendez brothers how to one get the
others to go in. It was pretty horrific. Try to
have anybody ask you, hey, man, what are you doing tonight?
I want to rob a bank? No, what's wrong with you?
You know what I'm saying? Thirty seven teams of people
with organizations. Yeah, oh thirty you can't.
Speaker 1: Okay they can't. No, it's not fixed. It could be
massaged at certain points, I guess, but not fixed.
Speaker 4: I guess. I don't know. I still think Dan, that
there's a chance. I really do. I know. I don't
know if you do.
Speaker 1: He couldn't give us the winner?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 1: How come he couldn't get I don't see there you go?
Speaker 3: No, No, But what I'm saying for Buffalo is I
really think that there's still a chance. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
I really do. I think they're like, I go, could
it be?
Speaker 1: I thought you meant like there's a chance.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I meant a chance for the
Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: I tell you something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would not shock me.
Speaker 1: If you look at the NFL for first the AFC
and then the NFC. What team if you're the Buffalo Bills,
what team should scare you, Bill Moran the most?
Speaker 4: In the a f C.
Speaker 1: Yes, start with the AFT, then go to the NFC.
Speaker 3: Uh, the team that should scare you the most? I
guess the answer I have. In the AFC would be Denver.
Speaker 1: Okay, how about the NFC.
Speaker 4: And in the.
Speaker 3: NFC maybe Seattle, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know the team that scares me the most the
Buffalo Bills. Yeah, because they're gonna be They could beat
anybody eating this playoff field, beat them anywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 1: You want to hear good news. The Buffalo Bills could
beat anybody. The NFL is whacked this year. It is whacked. Okay,
anything can happen at any given moment. Stafford was the
was the club ass leader for the MVP going into
Monday night. All of a sudden, he has a bad game. Nope,
we're gonna give it back to Drake may Well. Wait
a minute. Three weeks ago, Drake may got busted by
the real MVP. Josh did like I hate voters, I
hate writers. They're all just like you.
Speaker 3: Love it.
Speaker 4: It gives you something to focus on.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Yes, the Bills can beat
anybody if they want to.
Speaker 4: I believe that. I do. I really think they could.
Speaker 1: Beat anybody if they want to. So either right now
we got everybody right where we want them, or we're
ready for a first round exit and it doesn't matter.
Everyon's going over these scenarios at WGR and I understand
why I get it. Well, here's what happens if they
play Justin Herbert's not gonna play for the Charge this week.
Jim Harby doesn't care about seating. He goes, look, RIRI
a wildcard team. I don't care who we play. And
you can ask my friend Peter Montemorrow know who wanted
to be on today, but he's got something going on.
It's New Year's Eve. If you start rooting for matchups,
you always end up shooting yourself in the feet. I've
done this. Yeah, I'm like, oh, thank god we're playing
the Cowboys in the super Bowl and not the forty
nine fifty two to seventeen.
Speaker 4: Oh crap, that was awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, hey, thank god we're playing the Jacksonville
Jaguars of the ninety five playoff. The way they might
get a playoff game, they should scare you. I was
on this a month ago. But they could beat any
team anywhere in this conference. The Buffalo Bill and they
could beat anybody in the NFC. There are no studs, okay.
Seattle always has a stupid game. The Rams approved. They
always have a stupid game.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The one team that actually looks the most put together
in the NFC is the forty nine ers, And the
one team that actually looks put together the most in
the AFC seems to be the New England Patriots. Hey,
but the Bills what the Foxboro came back and.
Speaker 3: Be I do think that the Bills would beat Patriots again,
I really do.
Speaker 1: I think they can. The problem is they lack focus.
It's always another shoe that drops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I I you know, we talked a lot about the
coaching and the different things like that. Have they gotten
Josh the right people to be around him?
Speaker 4: Clearly not. I do think this.
Speaker 3: I think, uh, there's a chance that New England loses
Stefan Diggs if this choking allegation, can you know, nothing's
gonna happen, goes anywhere that's gonna happen. But I because
he has been thrilled. He's impactful for them. He really
he's still got.
Speaker 1: On the sideline in the locker room and on the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is motivated, and I think without him, I
think they're a slightly different team.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that he allegedly like choked his chef.
Speaker 3: Well, bitch, want to make him my mail?
Speaker 4: Right, It's like.
Speaker 1: Dude, first of pink powder, which I told everybody on
this show nothing would happen, and then this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the.
Speaker 1: NFL's got to investigate. They might put a on the
accept list. I don't think they will. I don't think
they have the cajones to do that. But I mean, look, yeah,
like whatever for stuff, they could beat anybody.
Speaker 3: I think the Bills can and I and I think
it could be a lot of fun, you know, head
and going forward.
Speaker 4: I do wonder if they played Josh this.
Speaker 1: Weekend one play, one play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did they already say that?
Speaker 1: No, they haven't said it.
Speaker 4: He's got they played.
Speaker 1: The Jets are just so freaking bad and who cares
if they win? Right, it's too bad because it is
the last game at high Mark Stadium slash Rich Stadium,
slash Ralph Wilson Stadium slash New Era Field.
Speaker 4: Well, that maybe why he plays.
Speaker 1: Slash Greg Connors and Ferris Stadium. I wonder if Greg
told be able to take his own seat out with
him as he goes. You know who I am? No,
but in all seriousness. They are bringing back the red helmets.
And Peter brought this up to me last night. He goes,
He goes, you know what they need to do on
that field, and I don't think they'll do it. Maybe
they will, will be surprised. Paint the end zones red
like they did in the nineties, put the red helmet
on the in midfield like they did in the nineties.
Paint the field like they painted it in the nineties
during the Kelly years. To come out with the red helmets,
that would be awesome, But it's a lot of work.
It may screw with the turf from whatnot. I don't
know how that all works.
Speaker 3: It may a lot be contingent on the weather.
Speaker 1: But that's gonna be the last game in that stadium.
And you know what, and I wrote a whole thing
about it for the Times Awayne County. I go, you
know what, you know, when you're gonna miss that stadium,
when you get your season ticket bill for the next one,
or you realize you can't go afford to go.
Speaker 4: To the next one, that's the problem. That is a
big problem.
Speaker 1: You seventeen thousand, I'm sorry, thirteen thousand extra people in
that stadium extra thirteen thousand extra voices because it's gonna
be so expensive. The stadium is gonna be tighter, and
by the way, mark my words, in ten years, in
ten years, the new high Mark Stadium will be obsolete
and it will be the only outdoor stadium north of
the Mason Dixon line. You really think, Oh yeah, I
think Pittsburgh's probably gonna go to a dome tune. Have
you noticed the trends here? Kansas City's the Chiefs are
moving to Kansas. They're getting a dome stack. The Browns
are getting a dome stadium or I'm sorry, a roof stadium.
Domes are out now an indoor stadium, And it looks
like Chicago is trying to move to Indiana, make a
power play, and they're trying to get an indoor stadium,
and they just rebuilt their stadium twenty years ago. Pittsburgh's
do next. You mean to tell me that they're not
gonna try to get an indoor stadium too, because guess what.
The next big gold mine is hosting a Super Bowl.
The Bills can't host a super Bowl. They don't have
the hotel space. All right, But I'm telling you the
Weather's gonna be a factor. Who's gonna want to come
to Buffalo after Josh Allen's gone unless they find another
Josh Allen, because who's gonna want to play in that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's a great question. Uh yeah, yeah, I mean there.
I'm sure there's been forward thinking on all this. I'd
like to think, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I did have.
Speaker 3: A relative state to me, and I think there are
people that clearly think this way and said to me,
what do you think of the new stadium? And I
knew what he was getting at, and I said, I
wish I had I thought it, and I go, just
don't say it. I said, I think it's great for
the area. I think it's great for the team. It's
a beloved team there. It has done so much for
that community. And I said, I know there's concern about
the way it's being paid for, but I'll go back
to this. I don't think people really understand things like this.
There's a budget, and that money is in the budget
for the state. It will go to arts and entertainment,
and if it didn't go to Buffalo, it would have
gone to some other projects, maybe not one big project,
but other projects around the state and nothing would have.
Speaker 4: Happened probably in this area.
Speaker 3: And so when we hear that Governor Kathy Hokeel really
pushed for Buffalo, Yeah, she's pushing for the money to
go there. But the money is budgeted. It's not like
because people.
Speaker 4: Are like, what about this, what about the schools? It's
not in the budget and it's not.
Speaker 1: I think that there's like this big bank account that.
Speaker 3: The state has not going to be spent that way.
And I think that's really important to remind people because yes,
I hear you, you're making a lot of sense when
you say things like what about education or making this
or making that?
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 3: But there's a budget, and the budget is arts and entertainment,
and if the money didn't go there, it would go
on arts and entertainment elsewhere. Maybe not one big project
that's going to get all the attention, but it would
have gone to fixing a theater or building a new whatever.
Speaker 4: Down in the city.
Speaker 3: And it's not something that enriches our area. I do
think this could potentially enrich our area.
Speaker 4: It is less, it.
Speaker 3: Is smaller than the other stateium. I think you were saying,
was it thirteen thousand less.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that seventy three thousand seats to about sixty thousand seats.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I think it was sixty two when I.
Speaker 4: Looked it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Still that's like no, no, no, no, no. I only know
that again because then when I'm talking, they're looking it
up at the dinner table. I felt like I was
being grilled. I'd be, you know, because I said, I
think it's like I said, they were one of the largest.
Speaker 1: Used to my tax dollars.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, and.
Speaker 3: That's where I always go. I understand, I'm not going
to argue with you. Is there a wasted money, Yes,
sure there is, but this is a budget and there
it's gonna stay that way, and it's not for the schools.
And I want to go back to what you said about.
Speaker 1: But still comes from us though, But yeah, yes, it.
Speaker 4: Comes from the taxpayers.
Speaker 3: And we don't we don't make the budget, right, I mean,
it's the people we vote for that make the budget.
Some people don't fucking budget they're themselves.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, no, hi Billy big Bucks, No.
Speaker 3: Sorry, nuts New York City with Jeff that's crazy crazy.
And then you just kind of go find fucking I'll
pay for it, you know. And it takes him an
hour to get everywhere because he's riding buses and ship
and I go, I'm not doing that. I won't take
it an uber. I'll be lucky that.
Speaker 1: You're with me. I didn't say that you didn't take
the subway.
Speaker 3: We did, Yeah, I mean I took the subway up
to Little Ireland with him, and I took the subway
when we left one bar. It's on the subway. There's
one subway that runs across Staddn Island. We took that
and it dropped us off and it was wonderful. When
we went to another bar and I said good night,
I'm out and my man stayed yeah. Oh wow, okay, yeah,
he was bagged up. The next day, he gets on
the ferry.
Speaker 4: With me because we're gonna go update and he's like,
there's a dug a doublets upstairs.
Speaker 3: I go, I got you. What do you normally gets
double It?
Speaker 4: Just a muffin and a coffee, All right, okay, yeah,
it'll be fine. This is crazy. It's like the jelly
Green Giant got drunk.
Speaker 3: I wanted to touch something because you you you brought
up earlier about I don't know if you Maybe I'm wrong,
but I thought I heard you say something about like
Ivy League school and yeah, acceptance, acceptance and stuff. So
these are stats that you can look up. In nineteen
sixty eight, I believe in all of the Ivy League
schools there may have been twelve I'm gonna say black
students or students who identified as black. I don't know
that there was any other minorities at that time. I
don't know, but I read this and now in twenty
twenty five, I think at Harvard, so it's not all
the Ivy League but Harvard, I believe, or it might
have been Harvard Yale, but either one fifty majority of
students identify as something other than white.
Speaker 4: Okay, so.
Speaker 3: We say DEI was needed to give people of different
skin tones an opportunity to have an excellent education if
they may, if you know, if they could get in.
But we're trying to encourage that and build more diversity,
and I think that's important. I think you get better
ideas different cultures. Every college looks to try to keep
a balance. They just do, you know, for a cultural
perspective and stuff. People have a big problem with DEI.
I would say my argument there would be have we
saturated DEI and should it be changed not getting done
away with when it comes to education, Instead of making
it about trying to fit certain parameters of people, why
don't we open this up to.
Speaker 4: People of lower income.
Speaker 3: DEI on income not that you're not going to meet
the qualifications of the school to get in, but a
lot of those people don't have opportunity. Let me tell
you something about I have family members that have specific
tutors for what they identify as weak spots in their
children's education. Those are people of means, and there are
also some of them are people of different ethnicities. So
you can't tell me you're building a culturally diverse college
when you let in the Royalty of Thailand's daughter who
has been had all kinds of stuff and she arrives
on a private plane. That isn't really adding the diversity
that the purpose of DEI was. So if you want
to keep it, I think it has to go to economics,
especially for education, because there's too many many bright minds
that I think that miss out on opportunities because they're
just not available. And I think you'll hear people say
I mean, talk to anybody whose kid is playing like
elite hockey or elite soccer. Right, I don't know that
there's elite football. Maybe there isn't, I'm not really sure.
Usually asked college and.
Speaker 1: Some other football, it's is usually high school college. Yeah, so,
but it is the most meritorious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's I don't think that there's.
Speaker 4: A AU football.
Speaker 3: Maybe there is, I don't know, but even basketball a
lot of times, like I had a relative father was
from Puerto Rico, went to West Point, stayed in the
army for twenty years, is it, became a neurosurgeon. When
I was fifteen in the eighties, he was building a
twenty thousand foot extension on his house. Twenty thousand Wow,
it's the size of a small grocery store. Yes, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I mean the whole foods. You know what I'm saying,
next to the kitchen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'll go okay.
Speaker 3: And yet, because he was Puerto Rican, his children could
I could qualify for or meet quotas. But they also
were on like an elite soccer team that I think
I heard the father say, well, they probably gone on
there because I could afford to pay. And I mean
our friend Kevin. Talk to Kevin, his son Tyler is
one of the best hockey players in the county we
live in. In high school, he's considered one of the best.
I don't think that there is anybody in that high
school hockey and travel hockey that isn't aware of who
Tyler Muror is. I'm not just saying that the.
Speaker 1: Kid was autograph week the kid is.
Speaker 3: The kid is really good. But I saw somebody last
night who was a hockey player, And Kevin said to me,
can you introduce me to that guy? And then I said, yep,
And so I introduced him and he comes back over
and he goes, that guy really wanted my son on
his team. And it was the expense of the team,
Like you got to pay for all this other stuff.
You gotta pay for the jersey, you gotta pay for this,
and it was the entry was in. So when I
there is a barrier to entry for some of these things, right,
if I have dyslexia and my parents don't have the
means to get me help other than what's in the
public school, and maybe I'm not so bad that there
isn't some other kid that's going to get the help
before me, because that's what happens in a public school.
So now I go through. But if I had had
that tutor, could I have not hated school and learn?
And you understand what I'm saying, And that's why I go,
is there a better way to do DEI when it
comes to education where we're helping people of lesser means
like someone in Appalachi. I mean, look, one of the
most brilliant people Nobel Prize winner was Appalation, right. I
mean sometimes it cream will rise to the top, but
you know, beautiful mind, it's about the He's from Appalachia.
You know, he's like a hillbilly, right, And so I'm
just saying, like, could we give more opportunity instead of
trying to continue with the quotas which a lot of
those people are already coming from.
Speaker 1: Means, that's all I think the d I'm not a
fan of DEI at all. I think it's an echo
chamber of just pandering, I really do. But as far
as socioeconomic stuff, yeah, that's so let's take the race
out of it and let's just go with like income.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing is that you can kind of make
that up. Who's investigating it?
Speaker 3: Right? Well?
Speaker 4: True, you can.
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand your own businesses and thirty grand
and I understand.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a family member who emancipated his
daughter so she could go to college, a very prestigious
college in the area for next to nothing. Yeah, but
he had the means, Yeah, yeah, I know the tricks.
I mean, it's it's so mucked up that there's no
way to do it right.
Speaker 4: No, you're right, I'm just thinking like that was That's
what That's.
Speaker 1: Why I go back to the first segment we did
Tony Robbit. If you want to do something, you'll find
a fricking way. Josh Allen said a thousand emails and
got two responses.
Speaker 4: Yep, for scholarships.
Speaker 1: Look where we're at now everybody's got a story. So
here's here's the motivation. Ready, yep, go create your story.
Speaker 4: There it is.
Speaker 1: It's always it's always a nutty story that you're like, Wow,
that's how you make it. Go write your story.
Speaker 3: You just said it. There it is. How did you
not make it? No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: Still write my story.
Speaker 4: That me too, Me too, my friend, me too.
Speaker 3: I'm right there with you, everyone, and I if you're
listening to this, it'll be New Year's Day, so you
survived New Year's Eve and I wish you God bless
the best in twenty twenty six. May God be with
you and we will see you Danny.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, God willing.
Speaker 4: Next year.
Speaker 1: Yes, see it next year, God bless you, Dan.
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