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Speaker 2: The book the Big Twelve, and then they Southwark. We

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begin each and every week as we always do with

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our hot takes, and Tom, You'll always have the takes

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ready to go from Oklahoma State. Should should I steal

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it from you this week? Or should I just give

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Speaker 1: In a moment.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me let me have this one.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let you have this one.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk Mike Gundy here momentarily, so stand by, stand by.

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But where I will go this week when it comes

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to the hot takes is uh, I will look to

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the Southeastern Conference and I'll go with that other team

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in the state of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I'll go with the Sooners. I loved what I saw

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from O you this past week.

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Speaker 4: But my hot take this is actually gonna I think

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catch Tom by surprise what I'm about to say next.

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I love what I saw and I was very impressed

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with the Sooners, but I think everybody needs to take

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chill pill for a second.

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Speaker 1: My hot take is calm the breaks on Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: Okay, hear me out on this The offensive line much

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improve on what it was a year ago, but it

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still has some major question marks. John Mattier's fantastic. He's

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a Heisman candidate, but he ran the ball a lot.

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Speaker 1: Do they have enough receiver help?

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Speaker 4: I think the defense is fantastic, Okay, I don't have

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any real concerns there. The run game. You bring in

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the Underwood's got potential to be a star in college football.

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first road start. I mean, a lot went right for Oklahoma,

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and that's not to take away anything away from what

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they did last Saturday in an impressive win. But you

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have a gauntlet of a schedule coming up, and you

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have some things that you clearly need to work on.

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Oklahoma can't be a playoff team and contend for the

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SEC and a national title all that, but calm the

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breaks for a second, because the road is going to

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be very tough for this Oklahoma team and they haven't

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even begun sec play there.

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Speaker 1: So Tom, did I kind of surprise you there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little bit. But I think what you

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Speaker 5: You know, as much as I hate ou, I liked

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Speaker 3: I can't deny it.

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Speaker 5: I think your nail on the head with my tear

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running it a lot. You know, I get that he

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could move, but you know it's just, you know, one

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injury away from having a having a start oh what's

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his name again? So they don't definitely don't want to

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more and and maybe a little bit more balanced of

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's a long season ahead for Oklahoma here, and

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the break just for a moment, and let's see how

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this ultimately plays out, all right, tom uh Mike Gundy

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embarrassing showing this past week in Eugene. We knew it

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was gonna be bad going in, and I think it

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Speaker 3: Oh it was it was.

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Speaker 5: It's the most embarrassed I've ever been as as an

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and checked. You know, we're checking stats, see who scored?

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Speaker 3: Do did what you were doing?

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Speaker 3: Bright? Yeah? The Highlight League maybe? Uh yeah.

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a fan of OSU. This is the lowest the programmers

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the worst Power for Football team in America, and they

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the Power for There's very good chance. Actually, I think

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they put out the rankings and in the whole FBS

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I think it could it could get worse the team.

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the kid played decent for the the goddamn Lions. Then

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they put him in not Daniel and the Lions. Then

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it was freaking zaying out there, just trying to stay alive.

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teams play each other. Ohshue defense got mauled. They didn't

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know it looked like what they were doing. They got

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immediately punched in the mouth and didn't respond whatsoever. I

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knew they were going to right out of the gate.

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the sheer lack of effort and care out of Mike Gundy,

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it's just kind of what really deflates it. Like I

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don't think he has it anymore. Build him the statue,

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name the field after him. Do whatever you want to do.

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to back weeks of uninspired play, and I don't know

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what's going to happen going forward. You got a bye

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week this week, and then you got TU on Friday

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night and still water. If this, if this Oklahoma State

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team loses the TU, I'm gonna say right now, this

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team loses the TU, I will not watch another Oklahoma

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State football game this year. I'm not gonna do it.

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I put myself through it last year.

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not it's not worth it. I'll do something else on Saturdays,

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also watch other games. I'll go on a fucking walk.

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lose the Tulsa I think in general, I want to

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know your opinion too, just outside looking in, because I

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know I'm biased, and I know I've called for Gundy's

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head for a while now, and I think they should

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have already. But if you lose the Tulsa, there's no

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fucking way you should be a head coach of a

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Power four team, that he should be fired if he

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loses to Tulsa. He should be walked out of the

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fucking stadium.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you want to pay the buyout though?

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Speaker 4: Or would you rather just let the season go and

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see what you can negotiate out of it.

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Speaker 4: So I think if you're Oklahoma State, I know everybody's

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talking about Zach Robinson.

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Speaker 1: He's not doing that.

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and no offense to Zach. He's a friend of the show.

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He's been on this program before. But I don't know

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if Zach's necessarily the answer you're looking for. I think

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John Gruden would be a fantastic hire to potentially bring in.

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that whole discussion down the line, because there will be

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Speaker 1: That remains to be seen. But it's not looking good.

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Speaker 4: And I think the most disappointing thing you can say

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doesn't give a shit, just does not care anymore. That sure,

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the nil thing is very true. They don't have money.

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Boone Pickens isn't walking through that door again. And I

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that Gundhy was behind on nil, but I think Oklahoma State,

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their donor base, has not done a good job to

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step up and do what they need to do to

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put this team in this program in position to compete either.

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than Oklahoma State did, that's inexcusable and it's it's gonna

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this program going where it needs to go. I think

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remember they're not that far removed from playing in a

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Big twelve championship game, from being that close being in

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the College Football Playoff and all that. It wasn't too

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of resources right now. We just have to put ourselves

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in position where we can be a competitive football team.

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Speaker 1: That's the first step. You know.

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Speaker 4: I've seen people say, you know, they need to go

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find their Chris Climb and they need to go get

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their Lance light Buld, their Kenny Dillingham. Well, you know what,

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though Joe Maguire I got my questions about him, they're

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spending money. It is still the coach can't cover everything.

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a commitment from both ends going forward. When you do

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gonna find the right coach, but we have to have

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a commitment to winning because if not, we're getting left behind.

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We're talking about twenty thirty, next round of conference ree alignment,

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there could be a super league, all these different things here.

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Speaker 4: And if Oklahoma State isn't going to invest the financial resources,

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if they aren't gonna have the right head coach, then

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they could get left behind and there might not be

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any turning back. Like I think this program is in

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some serious trouble right now.

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Speaker 1: That's even bigger than Mike Gundy. No.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And here's the thing about the money.

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Speaker 5: So they this, you have this big ass concert Boys

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for Oklahoma who then went on and actually did a

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show in Waco at Baylor Stadium, Turnpike, Troubadours and Crew

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all you know, big names, and you sell that out

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for like four days. You sell out Boom Pickings. All

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really what lost some of the money. And here's the

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irony in it is he did it to himself. I

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will never be successful and can't pay their bills and

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whatever else, all this other shit he said literally shot

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words with the money, and it's like, well, don't call

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there's a new coach with a fire lid under his ass.

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Speaker 3: You know. I talking to the friend show.

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Speaker 5: Billy Locke, and uh he said, if they lose the

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Tulsa that they're going to sell the rest of the

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season tickets, so they just won't go. And and he

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even said shared the same sentiment, And all the OSU

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fans I've talked to you showed the same sentiment that

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it's not that we don't love O s U and

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want then we want the best for him, but it's

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you can't sit by and it and it's we knew,

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you know, all the OSUE fans knew that Oregon was gonna,

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you know, dog walk us, and they did. But the

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lack of care is what is disgusting about this. And

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if Mike Gundy continues to be the coach, which I

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don't know what I'll I don't know what I would do.

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I don't even want to entertain this that he would

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somehow make a bowl game and then they would keep

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him for next year.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got to leave.

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Speaker 5: I think, whether it be at the end of the

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season or by God, they lose the tulso there will

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be people calling for heads. I think when you get

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the right coach in there, I think the donners will

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come back.

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Speaker 3: You know. For people to.

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Speaker 5: Make OSU or a football program a priority in their checkbook,

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the coach also has to be have the team is

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his priority as well. And you know Mike Gundy's priority

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list right now, probably God, his family, maybe Diet Coke.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Saying oh, I think we got to watch the tape.

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We're gonna we're gonna have to watch you know, we'll

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go back, we'll watch the tape. But you don't need

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to watch the tape. Uh, you need to pull out

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football one. Oh, one for dummies and and have your

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coordinators read that or you know you you bring in

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Doug meetchim. You know, sounds like he's probably a nice guy.

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And I didn't really see anything. Uh No, no trick plays,

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no craziness, and you don't know, you don't want to

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do too much for Zane Floores right out of the

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gate because it was like his first start since being

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in high school for him. And you're on the road

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in hotson loud plays.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 5: But the lack of care that was put on uh

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for that game was just a huge, huge slap in

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the face to every single OSU fan. Kate Cunningham. Uh

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not Kate Cunningham. Sorry, by god, what's who? Who did

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Gundhy call out?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Gavin Gundy called out Carson Cunningham, who used to Cunningham

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media member. Now he's a pr guy, Yeah, a long

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time OSU fan.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he he Carson Cunningham.

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Speaker 3: I know I had to see right that came out.

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See I'm fired up.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm calling the ghost of the os U, ghost

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of Kid Cunningham to come back to save this program,

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come back from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: But you know, he tweets out you know, it's pathetic.

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Speaker 5: And then, by god, Gavin Gundhy's dumbass gets on Twitter

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and rants back at him and calls and he's so funny.

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Speaker 3: This is what he called him. He went on a huge.

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Speaker 5: Rent and said that Carson, you know, you don't know

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the how big of balls you got to have to

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run this program and what my dad's done for this program,

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and you'll never be successful. Pretty much parallel with Gundy's

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comments to the fans last November. I wonder where he

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learned that from well.

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Speaker 4: And then on top of that, with that said, you know,

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you had Gavin's comments that were so.

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Speaker 1: Childish and all and.

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Speaker 4: The points that Gavin was making saying that you know, hey,

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OSU football is an OSU football without Mike Guandy and

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all this, which just isn't true because there's no Mike

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Gundhy without last Miles first off, and you know things

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of course invested with the money from t boone Pickens

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that allowed Mike Gundy to have the success he did.

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Speaker 1: But two things can be true.

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Speaker 4: What what Gavin Gundhy and morons that are defending Mike

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Gundhy failed to understand or fail to accept, is that

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you can appreciate Mike guandhy and say that he has

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done a lot forclall in the state, but it's time,

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it's pastime to move on. These things get messy. Look

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at Garry Patterson's departure from TCU. I would argue Gary

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Patterson had a much bigger impact and much more success

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at TCU than Mike Gundy did at Oklahoma State. And

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he was out of that job mid season his last year,

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and his relationship is still strained with TCU. But you

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know what they did. They hired Sunny Dykes. In his

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first year, they played in a national championship. I'm not

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saying Oklahoma State's going to national championship Manus Tretch next year.

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Speaker 3: We da I can only get so hard, keep going.

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Speaker 4: But with that said, like you can, you can make

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a change. You can make those tough decisions from a

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legend and still be okay. And I think that's what

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Oklahoma State is gonna have to say, is you know what, Mike,

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whether you retire or we have to force you out,

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whatever it may be, We're gonna have to do not

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what's best for Mike Gundy.

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Speaker 1: We had to do what's best for Oklahoma State and

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that's the real, the truth of the matter.

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Speaker 4: Uh speaking out coaches in hot Water real quick, Let's

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go to Gaines, Phil.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to admit that you were wrong about

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Billy Napier? Your guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I wanted to be right. I wanted

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to be right.

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Speaker 4: Baft Florida losten to a backup quarterback at home? What

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in the hell Billy Napier? And their schedule is even

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worse than Oklahoma's? Is it is going to be ugly?

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It is looking pretty bad. I told you to DJ Lagway.

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It wasn't as good as advertised. And I don't think

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South Florida's a bad team by any stretch, but it

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was still a backup quarterback and it was still at home.

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Speaker 1: Might I add you?

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Speaker 4: But Florida feels like Oklahoma State Tom but on a

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bigger scale in this sense, like they're an SEC team,

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they're in the state of Florida, they have won national titles,

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they have resources, but that's a program that's actually been

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struggling with money compared to the rest of the SEC.

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And they brought back Billy and they didn't really want to,

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but they didn't really have a choice. Like I'm looking

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at Florida and that program. They're gonna need a spark

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and they're gonna need somebody to excite that fan base

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and excite those those players in recruits to make up

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for kind of the lack of the resources that they have.

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It's two weeks in and I feel like it's it's

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over for Billy Napier.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it absolutely is.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think if you win that game,

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you kind of keep it going a little bit further

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until you get in the SEC play and then see

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kind of how the season goes.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, that.

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Speaker 5: Felt like that felt like a nail, and I think

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probably Napier probably knows it too. I mean, they're running

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the risk of you know, Miami was Miami was so

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big and in the early two thousands and they were

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this big team and you know, they were they were

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making waves and then they you know, they kind of disappeared.

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And only here recently have they start been trying to

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creep back into the conversation. Is Florida big enough for

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three big brands? Florida, State, Florida in miamiir it is?

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You know, one have to kind of take that back seat.

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Speaker 1: Uc F and now South Florida too. You know how

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many Oh yeah, I mean how many chairs can fit

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in the musical chairs of the state of Florida.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I mean like it.

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Speaker 1: Looks like Florida doesn't have one of those chairs right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like the chairs are very thin and

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and Florida didn't get put their ass in a seat

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when the music stopped.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's not looking good, not at all. One

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more topic before we break down the games this week,

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Tom the Big Twelve with some interesting headlines this week.

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You know, you started off by the commissioners given the

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blank canvas to Dave Portinoy.

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Speaker 1: Here, here's our league, do what you.

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Speaker 4: Want with it, and Day being like, Okay, the Big

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Ten's not gonna let me do this. They only even

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let me in the state. And you guys are giving

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me free reign with the Big Twelve. Hell yeah, there's

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some boomers out there that.

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Speaker 1: Hate the idea.

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Speaker 4: I think if you're the Big twelve, you're not getting

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the attention from ESPN and Fox, if Borstool's willing to

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help you out, and you're not having to pay any

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money by all means, take the free publicity.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: That was a good start to the week, and then

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we get in We get into the weekend and Iowa

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State wins a close game with Iowa and that was

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a little too close for comfort, but hey, it's a

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rivalry game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I was that.

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Speaker 4: Good, but that game is always close no matter who wins,

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so I can live with that. But then things looked

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pretty bleak for this league. We already mentioned what happened

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with Oklahoma State. Arizona State had no reason to be

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losing to a you know, a mid maybe even bad

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Mississippi State team on the road. I guess they could

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have handled the cow Bell Kenny Dillon. His coaching decisions

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down the stretch were atrocious. I like Kenny Dillingham, but

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he coached a bad game that night. KU started out

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hot against Missous. They're up twenty one to six, and

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watching that game, I was saying to myself, like, this

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just isn't gonna last. They can't match the physicality of

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Missou and Lance Leipold made some dumb decisions. I didn't

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like the way he coached that game in the fourth quarter,

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and they didn't go forward on the fourth down when

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they should have. They coached way too conservative, and I've

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seen that act one too many times. As much I

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love Lance, he has struggled in these late game situations

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and you can kind of see the finish before it

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happens in.

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Speaker 1: Some of these circumstances.

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Speaker 4: And you know, just just looking at the way things

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played out, you know, k State losing the Army, how

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disgusting was that last week?

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Speaker 1: Too army? And this is a down year for Army.

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Speaker 4: Might I add we lost to Tarleton State just a

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week ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, like that's that's not a good look.

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Speaker 4: And in case State already lost at North Dakota a

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couple of weeks They almost lost in North Dakota a

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couple of weeks ago as well. You know, Baylor thankfully

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squeaked by SMU took double overtime a road win. Good

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bounce back for them. But I didn't even mention West

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Virginia losing to Ohio. I say all this to say

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just pains me to admit, but here's the truth of

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the matter. We're two weeks in and I'm looking at

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the big Twell's playoff hopes and I'm seeing right now,

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at best two teams make the collegehell play from the

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Big twelve and more than likely.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say this too.

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Speaker 4: Probably just one at this point because Arizona State's in trouble.

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Iowa State they got work to do, but I feel optimistic.

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I don't I think Baylor's much of a threat. Texas

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Tech hasn't played anybody yet. Texas Tech and Utah both

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look good, but they haven't played anybody worse.

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Speaker 1: Shit at this point. Ku, I think solid team.

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Speaker 6: But.

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Speaker 4: They got ways to go still. They got their problems

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with the line of scrimmage. Cincinnati isn't that great, Colorado

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is okay, They're gonna start their third string quarterback this week.

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West Virginia isn't any good. Case State isn't any good.

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Houston isn't a threat. U Seef isn't a threat, Arizona

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isn't a threat.

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Speaker 1: B Yu didn't impress me against Stanford.

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Speaker 4: I hate to say it, Tom, but two weeks in,

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I feel like we already know that this this league

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just it.

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Speaker 1: It ain't it.

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Speaker 4: It's it's that best two teams right now, and in

477
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Utah and Texas Tech, who everybody's talking about like cool,

478
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but let's see you actually play somebody.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, this is the league all around, uh

480
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and headlined by obviously O Glahoma State is just bad

481
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this year.

482
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Speaker 3: And I think it's gonna be one of those.

483
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Speaker 5: Years where you know, I think it happens to some

484
00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,680
well I think it happens. I mean, the ACC has

485
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had down years outside of you know, the Clemson, you know,

486
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:19,039
the Pac twelve had bad years obviously well multiple and

487
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:24,519
look what happened. But I think right now, if you're

488
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:28,200
you're the Big twelve, you kind of kind.

489
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Speaker 3: Of lean your hope a little bit on.

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Speaker 5: You could you kind of put some hope in some

491
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hopefully some faith that, Okay, is TCU gonna wreck shop

492
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or is Texas Tech gonna.

493
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Speaker 3: Lead us through this bad year? Because you're absolutely right.

494
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Speaker 5: I think you're looking at two, maybe even just one

495
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Big twelve team in the playoff.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not looking good. Let's uh, let's roll through

498
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very quickly. Here the Big twelve an SEC slate games

499
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,319
this week. Two Big twelve games on Friday night, Colorado

500
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and Houston squaring off in Houston. Wegman's looked pretty good

501
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:15,240
for Houston to this point, and Colorado going with their

502
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third string quarterback Stob.

503
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Speaker 1: Who what was the nickname Dion gave him Martin Luther

504
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,079
Stobb the other day yea as.

505
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Speaker 4: His first white quarterback that he's ever started in his

506
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coaching career. Good matchup there between Colorado and Houston. Tom,

507
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I Houston's a four and a half point favorite.

508
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Speaker 1: I'm in I'm intrigued by Houston.

509
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Speaker 4: If there's a team that we're not talking about, I'm

510
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,519
not saying they're gonna be like Arizona State of last year.

511
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:52,440
If there's a team sitting in this league that's that

512
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could take a big step up, I think Houston could

513
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be that team potentially to do so.

514
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Speaker 1: And this could be a good going.

515
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,079
Speaker 4: For them, and this might be their chance on a

516
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national stage, you know, on on national TV on Friday nights.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, very well, mind, I think you know, nobody's really

518
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,680
talking about Houston either, So I think honestly, if you're

519
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,519
a Houston fan, I think that's kind of what you want.

520
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,039
Speaker 3: Fly under the radar and just and win.

521
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Speaker 4: Kay State taking on Arizona also on Friday night. This

522
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is technically a non conference game, by the way, because

523
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they had this scheduled before Arizona was a member of

524
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the Big Twelve. Arizona two and zero. They played better

525
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,039
than what they looked last year. KSE State one and two.

526
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Arizona's trying to prove themselves that they belong. KSE State

527
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:44,559
wants back in the conversation. Call me crazy, Todd, but

528
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you know we're gonna have two good quarterbacks and Fafiita

529
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and Avery Johnson. I actually feel like, I know it's

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week three, I feel like this will must win game

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for both these teams, and I think I lean towards

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Arizona at home.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I leaned towards Arizona two. I mean

534
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:02,480
Avery Johnson. Is this Case State has just not been impressive.

535
00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:06,039
I don't know what it is. I don't know what happened.

536
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,000
I mean, I don't think even if k State was

537
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,839
to like miss a bowl game, obviously Climben's job is

538
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,240
not in any trouble anywhere close. But I just you know,

539
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:19,880
if you're a case State fan, I think you're going

540
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640
to say, hey, what the hell's going on? Wasn't this

541
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supposed to be like a year that we could do it?

542
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Speaker 3: Do you know?

543
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Speaker 5: The KSE State kind of feels like Utah and Oklahoma

544
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,480
State last year, where seemed like they were a front

545
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,400
runner and then just as the ability to not go

546
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:37,960
so hot.

547
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Speaker 4: Baylor taking on Sanford, they should win that. Texas Tech

548
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,359
taking on Oregon State. I don't think Oregon State's that good.

549
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:49,440
They're rowing too. Their special teams unit got a f

550
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,920
bomb by their own coach on National TV last week

551
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,559
in an interview. Malik Murphy's their quarterback, the old Texas

552
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:59,960
quarterback returning the Lubbock here. Uh, you know, I believe

553
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,640
leave did he play in that game against Texas Tech

554
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,400
a couple of years ago. Anyways, Texas Tech their first

555
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,200
chance to kind of show up and show out that

556
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,920
twenty eight million dollar roster. Here, Tom, I think if

557
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640
you're Texas Tech, you're playing a bad Oregon State team,

558
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:17,720
it's on national.

559
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Speaker 1: TV, you're at home.

560
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Speaker 4: I think you need to win this one big and

561
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kind of send a message that hey, we can back

562
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up what we paid for here.

563
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, yeah, this is where you know, put

564
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,480
your bundy where your mouth is. Let's let's see what

565
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:35,759
we what did that twenty eight million bias? This is

566
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:37,039
where you showed off.

567
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Speaker 4: West Virginia taking on pitt in the backyard brawl. West

568
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,480
Virginia losing to Ohio. You got a rivalry game here, Holston.

569
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Pitt's quarterbacks played pretty well the first couple of weeks

570
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:53,599
of the season. I don't expect much out of West Virginia,

571
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but it is a rivalry game.

572
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Speaker 1: You never know here.

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Speaker 5: Tom, Yeah, I feel like West Virginia could pull it off,

574
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but I mean, this is not as an exciting backyard

575
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:04,599
brawl that we've ever had.

576
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Speaker 1: Since.

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Speaker 4: Then, he takes out Northwestern State, they should be fine there.

578
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:11,359
I was stayed taking on Arkansas State on the road.

579
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,000
Iowa State, Why the hell are you going to Jonesborough.

580
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:16,640
That's a whole another topic, I guess, but I was

581
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State should be okay. Utah renews their rivalry with Wyoming,

582
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,559
and that's another thing you taught.

583
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker 1: Why in the hell are you going to Laramie? But

584
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,200
Utah just take care of business. Please.

585
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: TCU taking on Avaline Christian and then Arizona State taking

586
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:38,960
on Texas State at home. Everybody, please do not get embarrassed.

587
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,200
Do not be losing games you're not supposed to do

588
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,000
this week. Meanwhile, let's turn our attention to the SEC.

589
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Oklahoma taking on Temple. The line has been pretty interesting

590
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480
in this game time. It opened at twenty six and

591
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,839
a half, got down to twenty one and a half.

592
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Now it's back up to twenty three and a half

593
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:01,559
for OU, and there's been talk this week front of

594
00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:04,319
the show. Edivard Dasovich got caught on a hot mic

595
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,559
at the Oh You press conference this week talking about

596
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how it's gonna feel like a high school game, the

597
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,519
Temple's not very good, and that there's gonna be twenty

598
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,839
five thousand OU fans there. They're going to outnumber the

599
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Temple fans. Everything he said was true, but certainly that

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is going to ruffle some feathers a bit Temple's do

601
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,039
and oh they're off to a good start this year.

602
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:31,480
Ben Harbuckle was very complimentary of Temple this week. But

603
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if you're OU, I think that you try to put

604
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,759
the Michigan game, pick up where you left off, get

605
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,960
this offense going. As much as I like Mattier the

606
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:45,799
last couple of weeks, I still want to see more

607
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,000
from this offense. If you're Oklahoma, I think you should

608
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,440
not be satisfied unless you put up fifty or more

609
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:53,920
in this game.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a realistic expectation.

611
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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, bro, you say it'd be nice to,

612
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:03,200
you know, maybe put the hammer down early. And you know,

613
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:08,359
maybe getting my tears some rest before conference play starts.

614
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,559
I think, you know, don't you don't want to be

615
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,000
in a close game with Temple with you know, ten

616
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:16,160
minutes left in the fourth.

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Speaker 4: At the same time, I don't think it will be

618
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:24,480
Wisconsin takes on Alabama in Tuscaloosa, second big non conference

619
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:27,680
game for the Crimson Tide. After losing Florida State, Wisconsin's

620
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,960
to and oh Alabama's twenty and a half point favorites

621
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,000
at home.

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Speaker 1: They had a decisive win last week.

623
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Speaker 4: I don't think Wisconsin's that great, but I didn't think

624
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:41,039
Florida State was that great a couple of weeks ago either, Tom.

625
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,880
I just right now, I just don't trust to Kaitlin

626
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,960
de board team. I would if this was a betting situation.

627
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640
I'm staying away all day from Alabama in twenty and

628
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,640
a half here. I'm not saying Wisconsin's going to go

629
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880
in and win, but I don't think anybody's feeling very

630
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,240
confident about the Tide at this point.

631
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't touch this game with any money.

632
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,920
It's one of those games where Wisconsin gonna have a

633
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:09,119
resurgent and win, But Yeah, it's kind of a weird game.

634
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

635
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: Auburn taken out South Alabama at home twenty four and

636
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,800
a half point favorites.

637
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: They should be fine. Bazoo got the best of my

638
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:19,519
Jayhawks last week.

639
00:34:19,559 --> 00:34:22,039
Speaker 4: They take out Louisiana twenty seven and a half point favorites

640
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:22,519
at home.

641
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:23,159
Speaker 1: They should win.

642
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,119
Speaker 4: Georgia taking on Tennessee. George's looked really good the last

643
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,559
couple weeks. Stockton's played solid defense, looks really good. But

644
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239
I think one of the biggest surprises time for Tennessee

645
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,480
is what we've seen out of Joey Aguilar at the

646
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:44,760
quarterback spot. Nico hasn't looked great at UCLA. Aguilar people

647
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,760
were pretty skeptical about because he didn't necessarily play that

648
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,719
great at app State.

649
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: Did they upgrade at the quarterback position? Potentially they're at

650
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:59,159
home here. I feel like I should pick Georgia. But

651
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,480
something about this Tennessee team the last couple of weeks

652
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:05,440
of what we've seen unpleasantly surprised with Joey Aguilar and

653
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,639
this Tennessee team right now.

654
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought they, you know, could potentially take a

655
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,840
step back, but I think they looked pretty decent and

656
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,079
I do think Georgia probably gets the win here, but

657
00:35:19,119 --> 00:35:20,239
game day is going to be there.

658
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,559
Speaker 3: Maybe the magic of Kandas Parker helps him get the dub.

659
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 4: Maybe, So Texas takes on utep arch Manning gets a

660
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,119
chance to pat his stats a little bit. Mississippi State

661
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:38,280
taking on al Corn State should be fine there in

662
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,320
Mississippi State could be three to doer all of a sudden,

663
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,599
Arkansas and Old Miss. It is in Oxford, Mississippi seven

664
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:46,800
and a half point favorites.

665
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,039
Speaker 1: And you look at.

666
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: Taylor Green, he's a good quarterback. Ole Miss barely got

667
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:59,519
by Kentucky last week. You heard it first. Don't sleep

668
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,599
on the Razorbacks. If Sam Pittman's three and oh, all

669
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,639
of a sudden, everybody thought that he was gonna lose

670
00:36:06,639 --> 00:36:07,000
his job.

671
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:07,559
Speaker 1: For sure.

672
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,679
Speaker 4: You beat Old Miss, you start out three and oh,

673
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,039
then this could this could be the turning point. This

674
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:18,440
could be what saved Sam Pittman's year there in Fayetteville.

675
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 5: This type of win, Yeah, he beats Old Miss, He's

676
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,039
gonna have to have him some old cold beer.

677
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: Ls.

678
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,159
Speaker 1: You take it on. Florida.

679
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: LSU didn't look great last week. To be honest, they

680
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,239
are at home Florida. I don't think it's Eric could

681
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:35,800
l s U seven and a half point favorites. I

682
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,440
think Nuss Meyron company. They put the hammer down Harold

683
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,360
Perkins the best player in all of college football, arguably

684
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,400
best defensive player for sure.

685
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: I think LSU is gonna make it ugly on Florida here.

686
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to think so too. And it's you know,

687
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:53,159
these teams. I feel like they don't like each other either.

688
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,440
So yeah, I got l SU.

689
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 4: Big, Texa, A and M that Notre Dame had a

690
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,599
by last week. Odd enough, after that lost in Miami.

691
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,079
I liked what I saw from car even though they

692
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,079
lost that game. A and M's to and Oh they

693
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,760
struggled in this game last year to get the offense going.

694
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,480
It was Mike Elko's first game he had coached. They're

695
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,079
going on the road here. We know that Notre Dame's

696
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:20,440
physical with the line of scrimmage, that can run the

697
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,360
ball with Jeremiah Love, who I think is the best

698
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,719
running back in the country. I don't think Texas, A

699
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,920
and M is bad by any stretch, but I like

700
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:35,400
Notre Dame's physicality and I even liked them in their

701
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,400
loss in Miami a couple of weeks ago. I think

702
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,159
Notre Dame's a good team. I would be surprised if

703
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:41,880
Notre Dame lost A and M at Homedown.

704
00:37:43,039 --> 00:37:45,639
Speaker 5: Yeah so and I and I don't trust in him,

705
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,000
So I think Notre Dame's probably should should win.

706
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: Kentucky should beat Eastern Michigan. They're twenty four and a

707
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,320
half point favorites. And then South Carolina taken on Vandy.

708
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,400
South Carolina's looked good at.

709
00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,599
Speaker 1: Two and O.

710
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 4: I like sellers a lot, but Vandy is two and zero.

711
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:07,719
Pavia's look good. He's thrown for five touchdowns in the

712
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first two games. South Carolina three and a half point favorites.

713
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I got South Carolina winning here, but I'm not gonna

714
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,840
be shocked one bit if Vandy can find a way

715
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to pull off the upset there in Colombia.

716
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Speaker 1: Could you see that happening.

717
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Speaker 3: Tom, I could.

718
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's supposed to be South Carolina's coming out

719
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,519
kind of coming out here, but.

720
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Speaker 3: Vandy could spoil it.

721
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see more to come.

722
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Speaker 4: Chad with throw is set to join us next as

723
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we will get his thoughts on more in the Southeastern Conference.

724
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Speaker 1: That is on the other side, don't go anywhere.

725
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Speaker 4: Johnna is Now the program this week is our good

726
00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:51,920
friend Chad with throw from OutKick Hot Mike. You hear

727
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,400
him each and every day at OutKick dot Com and

728
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they got a new YouTube channel as well, and he

729
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joins us right now. Chad, appreciate it the toime as always.

730
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I think we've got a few things that we can

731
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discuss today.

732
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Speaker 6: No doubt about it. Tyler. Always the pleasure of joining

733
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your show, So thank you for having me on again.

734
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Speaker 4: All the talk Chad entering twenty twenty five seemed to

735
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center on Texas at Arch Manning, and of course he

736
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,199
didn't play well against Ohio State week one, and now

737
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I'm hearing a lot of people love what they saw

738
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,760
from LSU against Clempson. Oklahoma stock is starting to rise,

739
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,159
Bama stock is falling a bit. Georgia is still there

740
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,519
right now. I know we're only two weeks in. If

741
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:32,239
you had to pick one team, who would you say

742
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,079
to the team to beat in the SEC right now?

743
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,199
Speaker 6: Well, it's a great question. I mean I still would

744
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,760
kind of default to Georgia at this point, and we'll

745
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see what they do in Knoxville this weekend. But you

746
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,639
can't go against the track record of Kirby Smart and

747
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:48,079
what he's really done since you know, twenty twenty one,

748
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:52,079
twenty twenty, starting that run with Georgia twenty eighteen, really

749
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,360
going back to them, I would put Georgia at the top.

750
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,000
I still think Texas is going to be right there.

751
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,199
They have a dynamic defense and that showed in that

752
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,639
game against Ohio State. Arch is only gonna get better

753
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:05,440
and better. But I think what you have in the

754
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,320
SEC right now, Tyler, which is really exciting. I don't

755
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,559
know if there's a bad team in the conference. You know,

756
00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:12,519
a year ago, Missippi State was a bad football team

757
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,760
and didn't win a game in the conference. Kentucky was

758
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,599
a pretty bad team. Maybe it is Kentucky, but Kentucky

759
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:20,840
hung tough with Old miss at home on Saturday. Like

760
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
top to bottom, I know everybody's talking about the top

761
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:25,800
of the Big Ten versus the top of the SEC,

762
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,599
and maybe the Big Ten does have a bit of

763
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,559
an upper hand right now when you're talking about three

764
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,800
or four teams versus the top three or four. But

765
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,039
when you go one through sixteen in the SEC, Vandy's

766
00:40:38,039 --> 00:40:40,440
got a good chance if they go in and win

767
00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:42,239
as only a four and a half point underdog at

768
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,119
South Carolina, they could stay in the College Football plaoff

769
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,480
MIIXEH for a large portion of this year. I mean

770
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,440
that is not out of the ram of possibility. Tennessee

771
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:54,079
looks better than I expected with Joey Aguilar. I think

772
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:57,000
Arkansas is a sleeper. Mississippi State certainly better than we

773
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,639
expected with that big win over Arizona State, a team

774
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,320
that was picked in the preseason to win the Big Twelve.

775
00:41:03,079 --> 00:41:05,199
I mean, I really think top to bottom this league

776
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,239
is fantastic, which is going to lead to a lot

777
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,760
of eight and four and nine to three and seven

778
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,920
and five teams. So then we get to the end

779
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,639
of the season and get to see how that committee

780
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:15,920
decides to rank those teams when we get ready for

781
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,920
the playoffs.

782
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,599
Speaker 4: I've been hearing a lot from my Oklahoma people about

783
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:23,000
the scheduling, and that's been a big topic. Oklahoma is

784
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,920
one of the toughest schedules in the SEC and really

785
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,119
in all of college football in twenty twenty five.

786
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Same can be said for Florida.

787
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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, you look at Texas and things look pretty easy there. Georgia,

788
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,599
we heard Kirby Smart talking about it when they won

789
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:39,599
the SEC championship last year, that the league didn't make

790
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:44,119
things easy on them. When you have this much parody, Chad,

791
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,239
how much do you think that the luck of the

792
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,480
draw of these schedules is going to play a factor

793
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,159
into determining ultimately who gets to Atlanta and who ends

794
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:56,519
up in the collegeball playoff here?

795
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:59,599
Speaker 6: I mean it's a huge factor, and there's no way

796
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:03,199
to avoid. You get these huge conferences and these imbalance schedules.

797
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,599
You see it all the time in the Big Ten

798
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,639
with eighteen teams. The SEC is eventually gonna get to

799
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:10,239
eighteen teams, I guarantee it, and you're gonna see even

800
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,599
more imbalance when we get the list of the three

801
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,000
constant opponents. You know there's gonna be some big imbalance

802
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,360
in that with teams and who they're paired up with annually.

803
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,880
I think by the way Oklahoma shout out to them

804
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,320
also with a huge win, another team that's going to

805
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,480
be in the mix the top of the SEC, another

806
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,800
team that should have a good chance the College football Playoff.

807
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,199
I mean, the conference is stacked, and I think when

808
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,159
you look at the other end of that, you know

809
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,119
Florida is at the high end of man lose to

810
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,440
South Florida, and now that schedule looks impossible, although it

811
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,400
did a year ago when they finish out strong. But

812
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,440
it's hard to see them regrouping just because of who

813
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,880
they play and especially where they play them in certain instances.

814
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,039
I think Missouri is a great example, after coming from

815
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:56,920
behind to beat Kansas at home. You win that game

816
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000
and you look at their schedule, this is very manageable

817
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:01,440
for an SEC, right, I mean, they're gonna have a

818
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,119
really good shot at sneaking into the back end of

819
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:06,719
that playoff. Also, and I'm not sure how good Missouri is,

820
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:08,800
but I know they're a good football team. And that's

821
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,880
that's the great thing about this the SEC this year

822
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,480
is if you don't have a dog in the hunt,

823
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,719
I mean, it feels like the NFL. Right, it feels

824
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,239
like there's off games. It doesn't feel like there's a

825
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,480
cupcake game in there. Everything feels like you could lose,

826
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,599
everything feels like you could win. I mean, Kentucky, I

827
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,760
don't think is gonna go winless in the conference. They're

828
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,440
gonna beat somebody at some point along the way. So

829
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719
I think that really makes it exciting. And yeah, definitely

830
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,559
add Oklahoma to that list of teams who could compete.

831
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,320
John Mattier is a problem for the rest of the conference.

832
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,800
If he stays healthy. That dude can ball.

833
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is.

834
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Speaker 4: And you know, I was so impressed with the way

835
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,360
he played last week. Got a lot of touches run

836
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,159
on the football, and their ground game with their running

837
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:55,480
backs wasn't that great. They had some big issues on

838
00:43:55,519 --> 00:43:59,320
their offensive line last year. That to me, you know, Chad,

839
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,840
I look at at Oklahoma team. I got some questions

840
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,920
about Brent fvennibles, but John Mattier, as good as he is,

841
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,559
they're gonna have to fight a way to run the

842
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,719
football outside of him. If that team is gonna be

843
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,639
taken seriously in this conference, I would.

844
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 6: Think, yeah, I mean, they're gonna have to certainly expand

845
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,480
what they're doing. But you know, we see this every

846
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,760
five to ten years where a quarterback comes in the

847
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,480
league and he's so good and so dynamic, he kind

848
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,519
of carries a team on their back. I think Diego

849
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:30,320
Pavia was that a year ago for Vandy until he

850
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,480
got slowed by injury late in the year. That's the

851
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,960
big thing to me is John Mattier has done this

852
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:38,800
at a high level at Washington State. He's doing it

853
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,360
at a high level at at Oklahoma. But when that

854
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,400
the cumulative effect of all the hits you're gonna take

855
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:50,719
running the football consistently in the Southeastern Conference. We saw

856
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,920
it with Pavia last year. It's gonna take its toll.

857
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,679
At some point You're not gonna be one hundred percent.

858
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:58,280
So how does that affect someone like Matier? That's where

859
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,920
the running game and running backs can take a big

860
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,239
load off for you. But I mean, I haven't even

861
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,360
gotten LSU yet. By the way, Also, who has the

862
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,320
biggest winning the conference going to Clemson and winning on

863
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,519
the road the way they did against the time the

864
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:13,440
fourth rank team in the country. Now, Clemson didn't look

865
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,119
good in Week two against Troy, but nonetheless, I think

866
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:19,079
Brian Kelly's got a super talented team that should be

867
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,280
in the mix. I mean, it's an exciting time to

868
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,000
be a fan of the SEC. And I'll say it again,

869
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:30,800
Oklahoma has gone above expectation so far. Arkansas, to me,

870
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,199
is going to be better than people thought coming into

871
00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:37,599
the year. Mississippi State certainly better than people thought. Vandy

872
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,639
may be as good or maybe better than we thought

873
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,840
coming into the year, there are a lot of teams

874
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,320
that sometimes you'd put towards the bottom of the list,

875
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,119
that right now look really really good.

876
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk a hot seat for a moment. A

877
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:55,119
lot of pressure on Billy Napier, of course, after losing

878
00:45:55,159 --> 00:45:58,559
the South Florida this past week, Kaitlyn de Boor, they're

879
00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:02,559
in Alabama, big discussions after the loss to Florida State,

880
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:07,440
and you mentioned Arkansas. Certainly some eyes on Sam Pittman,

881
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,679
who in your mind has the most pressure on them

882
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:11,800
right now at.

883
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:14,119
Speaker 1: This point in the season when it comes to saving

884
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:14,599
their job.

885
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 6: It's Billy Napier. You know, you look at their schedule.

886
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,880
First off, I would not be shocked if they rally

887
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,920
after last week and go to LSU and win, because

888
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,360
we've seen Brian Kelly lay some eggs even at home

889
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,679
a year ago to Alabama getting spanked the way they did,

890
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,159
so that could happen, and Florida's got the talent to

891
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,719
do something like that. But I mean, they lose this week,

892
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,719
they're looking at Texas shortly after. I mean one in four,

893
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,480
one in three you know, becomes a reality quickly for

894
00:46:43,559 --> 00:46:45,239
that Florida team. And I don't know if Billy Naper

895
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,440
is going to recover even if you win some games

896
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,159
down the stretch. In year number four, Sam Pittman looks

897
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,000
like he's alleviating some of that stress, and I think

898
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
that he's going to be someone that that team is

899
00:46:56,039 --> 00:47:01,559
going to surprise. You know, Venables is an interesting one

900
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,440
because I think that game against I think it's Auburn.

901
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,280
In two weeks, they get Temple, then they host Auburn,

902
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,719
and I believe Tyler, they have a bye week after that.

903
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,599
That Auburn game is huge at home. If they can

904
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:17,320
beat Auburn at home and get to four and oh

905
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,599
at that point going into.

906
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: The bye, yeah, and then after that yeah.

907
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:23,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, because then the season.

908
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

909
00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 6: Then after that you get a win over Kent State,

910
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,840
but then it's Texas at South Carolina, Old Miss at

911
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,519
Tennessee at Bama. He gets really tough after that. But

912
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:34,760
if they can get to four and oh, I think

913
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,400
that at worst, you're probably looking at a seven and five,

914
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,519
you know, eight and four type team, and I think

915
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,360
given their schedule, that will be enough to keep him

916
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,320
around and showing that improvement. But that Auburn game is pivotal.

917
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,920
It's pivotal for Hugh Freeze, who I thought coming into

918
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,719
the season had the hottest seat. But they've been good.

919
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,840
You know, they look like a Hugh Freeze team you

920
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,400
thought they would be with what Hugh Freeze is able

921
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,519
to accomplish at Old Miss. So yeah, I think it's

922
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:00,360
Billy and Aper the top of the list, and it

923
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,239
goes down from there.

924
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: Last thing on the SEC real quick here, Chad, good

925
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,920
slate of games. You mentioned that Tennessee Georgia game game

926
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,360
Day is gonna be at Florida looking to bounce back,

927
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,360
taking on lsu A and m going on the road

928
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,800
against Notre Dame. That's just some of the notable ones.

929
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:20,519
What games kind of catch your eye this weekend?

930
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 6: Tennessee and George is the biggest I think for the

931
00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:27,840
conference this year. Gunnar Stockton that he's not really played

932
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,840
in a game like this where it's gonna be a

933
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,000
volatile crowd in Knoxville and it's gonna be as loud

934
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:35,760
as anywhere it's gonna be this this season. That's a

935
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,679
big one. I think the sleeper game of the week

936
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,880
is Vandy at South Carolina. That's the best quarterback matchup

937
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,880
of the week. Diego Pavia versus Leonora Sellers. That's one

938
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,079
I'm gonna be watching. I think that has a chance

939
00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:49,679
to be a terrific football game. And if Clark, Lee

940
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,119
and Vaney can go into South Carolina, a place I

941
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:56,920
don't think they've won in sixteen years in Columbia South Carolina,

942
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,599
that would be a huge notch in the belt for

943
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:04,840
the Commons LSU Florida. Huge. I mean, it's a sneaky

944
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,239
good week and you brought it up. I mean Texas

945
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,480
A and m Notre Dame, Mike Elko in his debut.

946
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,199
They did not look good at home a year ago

947
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,119
to open the season against the Irish, but I think

948
00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:19,159
that they have the horses to go up to South

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Bend and pull off the win. How healthy is Marcel Reid?

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Can he get the offense going against a really good

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Notre Dame defense?

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Speaker 3: A lot of.

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Speaker 6: Question mark A lot of question marks about Notre Dame. Also,

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you know, after that season opening loss to Miami. I

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think they've got a really good quarterback in CJ. Carr.

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But that's going to be a special atmosphere and big

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time game as well.

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Speaker 4: Chap before we go plug away, tell where people can

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see the show and follow all the stuff you're doing.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, OutKick dot com. You know we're on there. You

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can find us there, but go to the YouTube page

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probably easiest way. If you search at OutKick hot mic.

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He can be a little bit confusing because it's going

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to send some people to the OutKick page, some people

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to our old YouTube page. You'll see the new page

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as just hot mic as the name of it. If

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you find that my ugly mug next to Jonathan Hutton's

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pretty mug, then you'll know you found the right spot.

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Subscribe on that YouTube page. You can listen to us

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on podcasts wherever you get your podcasts. And Tyler appreciate

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you having me on the show always.

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Speaker 4: Chad, thanks again for joining us, and we'll talk you

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in down the line, all right.

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Speaker 6: Thanks buddy,