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<v Speaker 1>Greeteys and salutations everyone at rich Wilson walk into Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Live. Today is January fourth, Happy New year to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three thirty here in the afternoon, and Tim and

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<v Speaker 1>I running a little bit late, Timmy, because we were

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<v Speaker 1>getting caught up on all the world events and all

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<v Speaker 1>the craziness that's going on. And probably the first time

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and I have talked for thirty minutes. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it uttered the word baseball in those thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>It is pretty crazy. Yeah, oh yeah, it was an

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<v Speaker 2>honest thirty minutes, that's for sure. And I'm just sitting

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<v Speaker 2>back here and oh my glory watching all the NVB

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<v Speaker 2>stars and future MLV stars signing up. An exciting time

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy like me, Richie.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, man, I have got I have got my hand

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<v Speaker 1>on the zero point zero. Oh yeah, because we're we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about right out of the shot. And first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, how was your years, Timmy? Did you do anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you stay up and watch the ball drop?

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<v Speaker 2>I put on my dress pjs, okay, my finest fair

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<v Speaker 2>saundered into the living room and we ate too much food.

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<v Speaker 2>I ate a whole shrimpering. Can you believe that. No

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<v Speaker 2>wonder I had heartburn for like three days. Wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I so why would Why would?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would shrimp give you heartburn?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I hate way too much of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Ok I.

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<v Speaker 2>Four f family of four in one setting. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that likes it, and I hate wasting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sort of been greened in me.

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<v Speaker 1>We grew up in that era, I mean where yeah

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned your plate and that was not a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>to be taught.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, we Our dog was trained okay to put

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<v Speaker 2>you to put your plate down a little a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit with mum wasn't looking okay, the stuff like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the dog learned to like more or lessay, so yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>so no, it was quiet. We just sat around and

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<v Speaker 2>watched a little TV, actually watched some BBC stuff, caught

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<v Speaker 2>up and a little bit of that stuff, and just

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<v Speaker 2>had a quiet evening. I'm well past the stage of

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<v Speaker 2>partying with five hundred of my closest friends. It's no.

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<v Speaker 1>So we and Marstown we have this thing called First

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<v Speaker 1>Night Marstown or as actually Mars County. So and it's

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<v Speaker 1>they opened up a bunch of venues, old churches, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of the historic holms, and our Mayo Center, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have artists, musical artists mostly playing all over the

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<v Speaker 1>town and just kind of wander in and out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to their performances. Now it's put on by the

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<v Speaker 1>arts and cultural groups. So it's it's a bit high

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<v Speaker 1>brows stuff, which is kind of fun. So we saw

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<v Speaker 1>a trio cello violinists who was a Jilli r train

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<v Speaker 1>in a flutis playing kind of so we're celebrating the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fiftieth anniversary here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a history through that. So they played

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. It was phenomenal. Timmy Great. We saw an

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<v Speaker 1>opera singer sing for We're supposed to stay for forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes, and after about fifteen twenty minutes we said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've forard enough. Let's let's move on. So a choral

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<v Speaker 1>group that was phenomenal. So that was the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff it is. So it's it's a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's not going and seeing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the pop group or whatever. It's it's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>more like again, more cultural kind of stuff, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. You see a lot of people you

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<v Speaker 1>know doing the same thing. You catch up, have a bike,

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<v Speaker 1>to eat or just you know, grab something and then go.

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<v Speaker 2>To like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool. Yeahs cool. Yeah. But speaking of music, Timmy,

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<v Speaker 1>I have something to share with you that is a

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<v Speaker 1>mus must watch on television. Are you a Billy Joel fan?

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<v Speaker 2>More so the early stuff Piano Man, the first few

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<v Speaker 2>albums as compared to the latter stuff. Yeah, but he's no,

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<v Speaker 2>he's He's an incredible talent, incredible writer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want to encourage you and all of our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a Billy Joel documentary that's just been put out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it came out in last July that is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely phenomenal. It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes them through his struggle growing up and

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<v Speaker 1>struggle to make it and all of that. We're down

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<v Speaker 1>to the Christy Brinkley year, so we're kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>the it's five hours, so we're I think on hour four,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's two parts. And the thing I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about, Believe Joe, I'm not the biggest fan, but

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<v Speaker 1>his first wife, who he stole from his first musical partner.

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<v Speaker 1>They were married and they basically then fell in love.

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<v Speaker 1>But she was the first part of the documentary. No

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<v Speaker 1>one had ever really known anything about this woman because

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of kept a little profile, but she kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came back and she was his business manager. She

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<v Speaker 1>was the inspiration for many of the early songs that

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<v Speaker 1>she had and it is phenomenal. She's an amazing person.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they really kind of played her up very

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<v Speaker 1>big in the first part, and I just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you just felt such admiration for this woman. And basically

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<v Speaker 1>she saw Billy Joel killing himself with all the drugs

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<v Speaker 1>and alcohol and crazy stuff on the motorcycle and she

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<v Speaker 1>had a kid and said, look, you have got to stop.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't live like this anymore. And he would not stop,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, I'm leaving you, and she basically left him.

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<v Speaker 1>And pretty much Winnen had a normal wife and no

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<v Speaker 1>one that she knew that lived around her even knew

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<v Speaker 1>that she was married to Billy Joel and didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>who she was. It's just a story. It's it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they kind of go into that detail. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to his financial debacle, which is coming up. Great

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it, his first wife's Elizabeth, who managed him.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a brother name. Uh, I forgot the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the brother who then managed him after she did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was who Billy Joel wanted to work with.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, you really shouldn't work with this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't trust him. And he was the one that

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<v Speaker 1>took all his money. So it's just it's it's soap

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<v Speaker 1>opera is to me, and it's just fantastic, just fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have toe.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so Tommy, let's get into some baseball, shall we. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Segment one says introduction of news and notes it

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<v Speaker 1>was an Asian week. That's that's what I wrote, because

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<v Speaker 1>actually went back to UH to hand for I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>write who that was? Who was the guy that did

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<v Speaker 1>not sign with a major league team?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Good question? It must have been. Hey, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a very good question. I've been so wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 2>Okamoto and am I that I wasn't even aware of

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<v Speaker 2>somebody didn't make the great oh no corn attack, yeah attack,

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<v Speaker 2>I ask you? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>who was theero zero point zero? There?

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's m and I am I AM. I got

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<v Speaker 1>the I've got the pronounce am I am a I.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how this how to pronounce dot dot com

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Emmy I is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right. I I don't know Timmy, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna turn it over to you. Tell us about the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get the big money that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he and Scott Barrs went it. But it's a typical

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Baris deal three years and fifty four million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>But he gets to opt out every month and basically

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<v Speaker 1>he gets off every after every year. So tell us

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<v Speaker 1>about him. Tell us if he's a guy that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be targeting with your drafts, go through it

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I've we've talked about him before. He's coming

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<v Speaker 2>off a season where he posted one one nine two ERA.

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<v Speaker 2>His highest ERA prior to last year in the past

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<v Speaker 2>five years was a three thirty and twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>The past four years two forty one, two thirty, two

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four. He strikes out better than one per inning.

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<v Speaker 2>The stuff is fantastic. It really is great stuff. When

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the when I saw the package. My first

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<v Speaker 2>thought is did something come up on the medicals? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because I saw this guy as one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to two hundred million type player on a long term deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>if something didn't come up on them, if something came

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<v Speaker 2>up on the medicals, it makes sense. If something didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come up on the medicals. The only thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>can see for the contract being what it was is

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<v Speaker 2>he ran into a time problem, like not enough of it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I start like I started, like what he's done,

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<v Speaker 2>not knowing any of those particulars what he's done. Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting twenty MILLI year okay, with an opt out

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the first year if he pitches

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<v Speaker 2>to the level that I believe he's capable of pitching to,

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<v Speaker 2>which is an ACE or very close to an ACE

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<v Speaker 2>level pitcher. At the end of year one, he opts

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<v Speaker 2>out and he'll get his big contract. And he's the

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<v Speaker 2>type of player that he's betting on himself, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna win. So, like I said, I was

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got some information. So you and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that. We've talked about him and I multiple times,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we first brought him up. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you recall, because you never listened to me. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's well found. That's well found.

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<v Speaker 2>It.

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<v Speaker 1>I had talked to some of my contacts at Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball teams and they they told me they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>all that excited. And I asked why, and they said,

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<v Speaker 1>the fastball was flat, and he didn't have a great

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't have the splitter like all these other guys

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of Japan. Was when I brought that up,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, ah, but I think from what I've been reading,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of come to like why he people did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to spend one hundred and fifty to two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars. Now, having said that, I reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to a couple of people I know in the Bars corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Hey, what's going on here? Is are the

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<v Speaker 1>rumors true? And they downplay that, which you think they should.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've also said they have been working in the

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<v Speaker 1>off season with him and having him go through to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit more spin on his fastball, to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little bit more movement, and they had encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>him to start throwing more of a two seemer than

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<v Speaker 1>the four seamer to get somewhere. So they're pretty confident,

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<v Speaker 1>and again Bar should be right, but this is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the line. They're pretty confident that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get this guy. He's going to outperform

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<v Speaker 1>the three million, three year, fifty four million dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>will become that two hundred million dollar pitcher that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that I guess Bar has thought, and you thought a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other people thought coming in. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>they've got to prove it to the teams, and they

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got to prove it, and he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>make some changes in order to prove it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think if you go back and you take

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<v Speaker 2>a look at twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>his walk rate was fairly elevated. Okay, last year he

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big number. He walked seventy in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four in one hundred and seventy three innings. Last year

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<v Speaker 2>he walked forty five. Okay, So I think there's some

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<v Speaker 2>out seventeen in a game, pitched a no hitter last year,

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<v Speaker 1>My understanding, there's nothing wrong with the velocity of the fastball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the gentleman in Japan that I use for an

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<v Speaker 2>very capable. He has said that a Maya has better

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<v Speaker 1>That I was not hearing that I had not heard

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<v Speaker 1>that That's not what I was hearing from people that

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and what he said was the difference separating

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<v Speaker 2>and that Hey, that counts, Okay, definitely counts. Over overall,

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<v Speaker 2>there's that there is a comparison between the two. But

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<v Speaker 2>Yamamo was a better, better pitcher in all facets of

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<v Speaker 2>the pitching game. But I think what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>is it's a good situation for the kid. Okay, worse

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<v Speaker 2>it happens is he goes back to Japan in three

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<v Speaker 2>years there was sixty million bucks in his pocket or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>he renegotiates after year one, after a good year and

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<v Speaker 2>It just wasn't what I was expecting. How, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, well, I think so, I mean, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they also have to pay the posting fees.

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<v Speaker 1>So for them, if it's after ten milis so if

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<v Speaker 1>it's after one year, that's that's that's a hefty signing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he does leave after one year. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>It is a good landing spot, I believe for for

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<v Speaker 1>him because I think the the Astros are still really

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<v Speaker 1>you could take a look at it. The guys that

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<v Speaker 1>them to throw more strikes. So I think that's encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and let's face it, before this signing, Houston was

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<v Speaker 2>else basically, Yeah, is that his nickname or just make

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<v Speaker 2>so Downtown Brown. Yeah, no, they were because.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that means franber Valdez was is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to resign with with the Astros. I guess that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you know you're looking at Christian Heavier who's

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<v Speaker 2>still dealing with arm issues. Lance mccullors junior will always

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<v Speaker 2>deal with arm and Mike Burrows that's the before this signing,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the Houston rotation. They needed an arm badly,

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<v Speaker 2>They really did. They actually need more than an arm,

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<v Speaker 2>so the opportunity for him there will be he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>not he's not playing for a position, Okay, he's playing

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully he's he's healthy. I mean, if he's healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>Heavier is a pretty decent pitcher. Lancel Colors, You're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's you have to put a zero zero

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, so again, Yeah, well you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>with Heavier, you're looking at a pitcher who's tossed a

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<v Speaker 2>grand total of seventy innings in the past two years

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<v Speaker 2>six twenty twenty three. That's that stuff I hate. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the stuff, but he's got to prove he can

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<v Speaker 2>stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it was Tommy. Then you have Tommy John.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe so, or some sort of a bridge, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a bridge situation. But yeah, basically last year he threw

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seven innings and they weren't real great, Okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you know, I don't. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent yet anywhere close.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so went he had surgery in June of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. So yeah, so he came back. It came

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<v Speaker 1>back a little early because I think Garrett Cole's not

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<v Speaker 1>coming back until so he had surgery. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>May or June. He's not coming target to come back

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, second second half basically, I think. So. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So anyhow, also, give me.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me, give me a sateline. Games started, wins era

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<v Speaker 1>and strikeouts games started.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go with twenty eight so full time, full time? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>wins uh wins math who knows about fourteen wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Era and strikeouts?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? E three twenty five strikeouts better than one per inning?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Tim's all all in? And what would you where

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<v Speaker 1>would you? Where would you take him? In a fantasy league?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just pull up, Oh where are we? The

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<v Speaker 2>for pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>He is going oops, M and I how you spell that?

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<v Speaker 1>I am here. He's going seventy ninth, so you figure

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<v Speaker 1>out seventy nine. There's probably at least twenty closers, so

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nine sixty five something like that. Oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a twenty mineus seventy be fifty nine of fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just looking at the names right now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would take him above Tyler Glasnaw all right, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>take them above Brambour, veld or Valdez, and they're both

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<v Speaker 2>in the top forty. I'd probably take them over.

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<v Speaker 1>So you take so seventy eight is Cabrera, Kate Horton, Ranger, Suarez, Tanner.

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<v Speaker 1>You hate Tanner, but you would take them ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>all of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's yeah, you're you're looking at it. I would

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<v Speaker 2>be looking at him as a number two, hopefully paying

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<v Speaker 2>number three four price wow, uh tim, Yeah, as I

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<v Speaker 2>would take him before Cole Reagan's at nineteen because Cole

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan's hasn't proved able to stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Cole Reagan's zero point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I love the stuff, but against stay healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you? What do you? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know? What do you? Yeah? I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on. Cosumo Okamoto sign to a four year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The Blue Jays are on fire man. They're signing everybody

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<v Speaker 1>four year, sixty million dollars, no opt outs, so clearly

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<v Speaker 1>not a Bar's client. Bars loves his ops. Now, was

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<v Speaker 1>O Komodo was the guy? Was he the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you liked better than Murakami?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, as a matter of fact, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I can't keep everything straight. Tell us about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, O Kamoto. Well, just looking at the he'll hit

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<v Speaker 2>the all fields. He hits for power. There's no speed,

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<v Speaker 2>none whatsoever. His manager gave him the nickname of Young General.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a team captain for his team in Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's at two hundred and forty eight home runs and

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<v Speaker 2>driven in seven hundred and seventeen. He had fifteen and

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<v Speaker 2>half a season last year, which put him on pace

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<v Speaker 2>to be a top three home run back in Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta remember they're dealing with the they're dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>the dead ball era right currently. And he's a six

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<v Speaker 1>He's a little older, right, He's like.

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<v Speaker 2>He's twenty nine. Yes, I was actually shocked that the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants posted him. Okay, very unlike the Giants to make

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<v Speaker 2>a move of that nature. The glove is adequate, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not great.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said you said his nickname was Little General.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that because he's he's a team leader kind of guy, or.

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<v Speaker 2>He's yeah, he's a take. If you're the team captain

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<v Speaker 2>on the Giants in Japan, it is comparable to being

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<v Speaker 2>Derek Jeter with the Yeah. It carries that level of

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<v Speaker 2>not mystique, but it carries that level of respect, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's a lot of respect for his Yeah, his

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean was known as the captain around the

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<v Speaker 1>around baseball. I mean when he said the captain, he

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, I personally, you know, looking looking at the

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<v Speaker 2>overall stats, even in a dead ball situation. Two years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>he hit twenty seven home runs okay, which I believe

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<v Speaker 2>had him tight for third or in third place. He's

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<v Speaker 2>hit as many as forty one home runs.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I'm gonna give you numbers. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me higher and then when to stop. He

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<v Speaker 1>hits twenty home runs in twenty twenty six higher, he

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<v Speaker 1>hits twenty five higher, he hits twenty eight higher, he

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<v Speaker 1>hits thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I can, I can, I can go with that number. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's big tim So he is. He's a big bat.

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<v Speaker 2>He hits to all fields. His hit tool is very strong. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the launch angle, he's gonna hit home runs. Looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the strikeout to walk numbers in twenty three, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and eleven strikeouts seventy two walks the year following ninety

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<v Speaker 2>seven strikeout sixty six walks and half a season last

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<v Speaker 2>year he walked and struck out thirty three times, so

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<v Speaker 2>in two hundred and fifty one bats.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were to suggest that is he Carlos Korea.

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<v Speaker 1>Carlos Karai can still hit twenty one runs. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy's got some serious skills. He really does.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's going as the thirty first third basement off

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, and gimme, gimme, gimme.

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<v Speaker 1>So would you take him above Murakami?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, no hesitation. I am concerned. Amurakami's gonna have trouble

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<v Speaker 2>with the high heat. This guy won't. He's hit hit

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<v Speaker 2>home runs in international competitions. You know I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>big stage. No, he's he's a veteran skilled. Bad day,

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<v Speaker 2>when I look at at the list above him, I

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go up ahead of oh Man third third base

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<v Speaker 2>is not that great, is it. I'll go up as

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<v Speaker 2>high as match Saw somewhere, Matt Chapman somewhere in that range.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd probably take him ahead and about Noelvie Marte after that,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a crapshoot.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Tim's all and I've already given you a zero

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<v Speaker 1>point zero. So Timmy, you're all on this guy here.

419
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

420
00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't perform, well you got some answer to do,

421
00:24:57.799 --> 00:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>my friend.

422
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.279
<v Speaker 2>So well, yeah, you know what, Actually, I don't think

423
00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 2>I have any because right now his ADP is three

424
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:11.519
<v Speaker 2>thirty two. Okay, he will perform to that level. I

425
00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 2>am assured he will. I think whenever you get out

426
00:25:15.160 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 2>of him is going to be significantly above the cost

427
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.839
<v Speaker 2>you're going to pay for him. Now that cost is

428
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>going to increase rather substantially in the next short while.

429
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>But if you've already got him, you didn't pay anything

430
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:32.799
<v Speaker 2>for him, so that changes it. Yeah, that changes things

431
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:35.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. We're January fourth, right, so let me

432
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:42.160
<v Speaker 2>just see I'm just going to put January first to fourth, okay,

433
00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>into the parameters, and let's see where he's at right now. Oh,

434
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>he fell fourteen spots. Not No, he's up to twenty four.

435
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:54.640
<v Speaker 2>He's up to seventy one now from three thirty six

436
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:59.279
<v Speaker 2>since the signing. Now, granted that's only in one draft

437
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 2>had this weekend, so it's an infinitively small sample size,

438
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:08.000
<v Speaker 2>but I expect him to rise up into the teams anyways,

439
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:14.559
<v Speaker 2>over the next month. His price is not going to decrease. Definitely.

440
00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 1>I need a third basement. To me, I'm in the

441
00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth round. I'm two picks away. Is he somebody that

442
00:26:21.240 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I should be targeting in the fifteenth round?

443
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, as far as I'm concerned, Yeah, who's left on

444
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>the board.

445
00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Jose Caballero, Muri Caleb, Caleb Durman, Mark Viento's, Brett Batti,

446
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Max Muntzy, Alec Bohm, Carlos Korea, those guys, Yeah.

447
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>You could probably you could probably wait into the round

448
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:50.039
<v Speaker 2>or two. Who is me, I'd probably already have a rostered.

449
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.759
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest with Yeah, I start looking at

450
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the third base is not all that much better? Okay?

451
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:03.640
<v Speaker 1>The second?

452
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, there's there's a race.

453
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I've got my guys scheduled. I I know

454
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting on third base, so uh, actually waiting on

455
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>second base? I can't. We'll go through my team a

456
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.559
<v Speaker 1>little bit in a In a little bit, I think

457
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you'll be we'll talk about that. All right, let's move

458
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 1>on to me.

459
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, you know who i'd have on my team

460
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>that you the name that you just mentioned is Cavallero.

461
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's he's eligible everywhere. I've thought about that everywhere.

462
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's eligible everywhere. And Anthony Volpe is not going

463
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to be back until at the earliest the end of April. Okay,

464
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 2>you give a guy like Caballerera full time at bats

465
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:47.799
<v Speaker 2>for a month and you can steal twenty bases. Yeah, yeah, I.

466
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Think I I I my my problem with my team, Well,

467
00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.759
<v Speaker 1>there's we'll talk about it. But I did not have

468
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 1>any multi positional guys on my team, and I've thought

469
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of Caballero there and just you know, take them a

470
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 1>little early into saying the hell with it. I need

471
00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the I'm gonna I'm gonna take him for his positional eligibility,

472
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and then I've got, you know, I've got somebody else.

473
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Come August when everybody has hurt, I've got somebody that

474
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>can pop in there. Let's of course he gets hurt.

475
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Tim I got two more questions for the Angels signed

476
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Kirby Yates, who is the closure in Los Angeles? And

477
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>does Yates have a chance to earn some saves?

478
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I think he has a chance to earn saves because

479
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 2>when you look at the bullpen situation, it's sort of weird,

480
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, looking at looking at the Angels and their

481
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>bullpen is right now a series of question marks. Okay,

482
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:52.279
<v Speaker 2>uh can Roberts? Is Robert Stevenson going to be healthy? Okay?

483
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Then you then you've got Drew palmeranz who has never

484
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.240
<v Speaker 2>been able to stay healthy. Then you got Kirby Yates,

485
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>and then you've Ben Joyce and a young player with

486
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.839
<v Speaker 2>a big arm. But again he's he's coming off shoulder surgery.

487
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Right So right now, if I had to bet, I'd

488
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 2>say Stevenson and everybody after that would be the order

489
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>I'd be looking at. But there's no guarantees that Stevenson's

490
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>going to be healthy, or Joyce or Palmer, you know,

491
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it could be a real crapshoot. I'm

492
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:31.160
<v Speaker 2>anticipating that there will be guys relief pitchers in the

493
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Angel system. I'll be mentioning off and on all year

494
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 2>on the Waverroad.

495
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So would you would you take a would you take

496
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>a flyer on Yates and in a draft?

497
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>In a draft and hold? Yeah, I would in a draft,

498
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>and hold, I don't know if I would in a

499
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>regular draft. Kirby HS I think is closing in on

500
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 2>forty nine.

501
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so forty forty year old guys can earn

502
00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>a save man.

503
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can. Definitely. If you get to around forty

504
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 2>seven and everybody's forgotten about Kirby, ATE's make him your

505
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.039
<v Speaker 2>pick rich. Yeah.

506
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Speaking speaking of the Angels, Timmy, I don't know what

507
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you're going to say about this. I'm just gonna Anthony

508
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Rendon has retired from baseball. They worked out a deal

509
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.599
<v Speaker 1>to pay him his last year, but it's going to

510
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>be extended over a number of years. I don't know

511
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.119
<v Speaker 1>how many years. I didn't even look into that. All

512
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.440
<v Speaker 1>I know is he was paid two d and forty

513
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.039
<v Speaker 1>five million dollars. He played two hundred and fifty seven

514
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>games while with the Angels, and two had two hundred

515
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 1>and twenty four hits.

516
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if.

517
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:42.480
<v Speaker 1>That's going to go down as the worst deal in

518
00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>baseball history for a franchise, but it just did not

519
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 1>work at his body just broke. He was a good

520
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 1>player with the Nationals, won a World Series, but Timmy brutal.

521
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, he was actually and after his last

522
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>season in Washington, at age twenty nine, he was he

523
00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>was on track for a Hall of Fame potential career. Yeah, yeah,

524
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>you look at the warrant, you know, his last year

525
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>in Washington, he hit thirty four homers, drove in one

526
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty six runs, scored one hundred and seventeen runs.

527
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Over the six years that he was on the coast,

528
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:29.319
<v Speaker 2>he hit twelve less home runs in the six years

529
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>on the coast than he did in his last season

530
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>in Washington. He hit twenty two home runs. And yeah,

531
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.559
<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, yeah, you know, hey, and you look back

532
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and you say, well, how could they do something like that? Well,

533
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.079
<v Speaker 2>he hit thirty four home runs, drove in one hundred

534
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and twenty six RBIs. Yeah, he struck out eighty six times,

535
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:51.559
<v Speaker 2>he walked eighty times. He had a four to twelve OBP.

536
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:55.359
<v Speaker 2>He had two obps two of the last three seasons

537
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.319
<v Speaker 2>he was in Washington. OBP was over four hundred all

538
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.079
<v Speaker 2>three of his his last three seasons in Washington. His

539
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 2>ops was nine thirty six, nine O nine and ten ten.

540
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Like he was a really good player. It just didn't

541
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>work out. Like you said, the body broke and they

542
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>were all other mitigating problems obviously, but it's just odd

543
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.759
<v Speaker 2>when you see a player with that level of success, Okay,

544
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:29.680
<v Speaker 2>just totally disappear, and he did. Totally sad.

545
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, I'm looking at baseball savant and twenty nineteen

546
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>was his last year in Washington. Yeah. He hit the

547
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 1>ball really hard, ninety point four miles an hour with

548
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a ton of launch, nineteen degrees of launch, so he's

549
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>going to hit power is expected. Batting average was three ten.

550
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>He never he never struck out. He always walked. He

551
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 1>was a good defender, great range, not a great arm,

552
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>but a good defender.

553
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>It was.

554
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>He was a great player. I mean, looking at the data,

555
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>there should have been I mean he was getting older,

556
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>but there should have been hit the ball to all fields.

557
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're talking about the guy from Shapan. This

558
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:18.559
<v Speaker 1>is the guy that hit the ball to all fields.

559
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Looking at the stray chart in twenty nineteen, and I

560
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 1>just I think his body gave out. I don't think.

561
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the talent disappeared, if that makes any

562
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>level of sense.

563
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know what for people that are, you know,

564
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.519
<v Speaker 2>throwing it out there, Anaheim was stupid. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

565
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Anaheim wasn't stupid. It just didn't work out, you know,

566
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to give a guy a call.

567
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I would. I think that the

568
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.559
<v Speaker 1>stupid part was signing for such a long term contract,

569
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>given his injury history in the past. That was probably

570
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 1>the overpay. They probably got him on for another year

571
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.799
<v Speaker 1>that they had to. But I mean tough.

572
00:33:56.720 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 2>You can't other in the duration of the contract. You

573
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.119
<v Speaker 2>can't say the Angels it was a stupid signing. At

574
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.679
<v Speaker 2>the time they made that signing, it was very good signing. Yeah,

575
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.079
<v Speaker 2>and people were excited about rendoing and you know on

576
00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the West Coast, and hey, they had every reason to

577
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.760
<v Speaker 2>be based on what he had done and accomplished up

578
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>to that point in time. And you talk about even

579
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 2>the health. Okay, you look at his bats from twenty

580
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 2>sixteen on five sixty seven, five oh eight, five twenty nine,

581
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:32.760
<v Speaker 2>five forty five. Yeah, he only had since coming into

582
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>the league. He only had two seasons under under five

583
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred bats and one was his rookie campaign. So yeah,

584
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 2>even even the health was.

585
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>The health, the health, it was amazing. He was hurt

586
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 1>all the time in the minor leagues and then he

587
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.519
<v Speaker 1>had a string of health before it all fell apart

588
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.840
<v Speaker 1>on him. So I mean, I I totally. I mean,

589
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just his body, as I said to

590
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:57.159
<v Speaker 1>the Verve, Yet his body just gave out and it

591
00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>just happened. Somebody, Let's take a break, five minute segment.

592
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 1>People got their money's worth, so let's come back out.

593
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm an FC draft.

594
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm curious.

595
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Because I said, Timmy, and we're doing our NFC draft. Oh,

596
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>it looks like Chandler Simpson just got taken in the

597
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:25.039
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth round. He sat on the board for a long time, so.

598
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Fifteenth Yeah, that's that's a long time for a speed guy. Eh.

599
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was actually thinking about taking him in the

600
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth round. He was one of the guys. I mean,

601
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not big on him, but I just thought that

602
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>was starting to get to be about the right place

603
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:42.360
<v Speaker 1>for him. So Timmy, as we know, let me just

604
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>get the total first round show. Hey, Tani, Aaron, Judge,

605
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Juan Soto, Bobby with Junior Jose Ramirez, Corbyn, Kerra was

606
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the guy that I wanted. He went six. I took

607
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.079
<v Speaker 1>La de la Cruz at seven, Trek Schooble at eight,

608
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Acunya Junior at nine, Paul Sken's, Garrett Crochet Rodriguez

609
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 1>at twelve, Fernando Tatist junior thirteen, Christopher Sanchez pops up

610
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:10.679
<v Speaker 1>to the first round, and Francisco linn door. So you

611
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>have say, four pictures in the first round and then

612
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 1>coming back first pick in the second round. Yeah, i'mamoto

613
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 1>second pick in the second round, Mason Miller. So the

614
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>first closer off the board. So you had four starters

615
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:26.599
<v Speaker 1>in the first sixteen.

616
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Picks, yeah, and the and the closer that throws at

617
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and five miles an hour. That's half a

618
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 2>pitch away from breaking. Yeah. I've been started following some

619
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>of the NFBC stuff through Twitter, okay, and man, oh man,

620
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 2>I get that it's a draft and hold, but some

621
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 2>of the closes, you know, the bullpen decisions I've seen starting. Hey,

622
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I know it's a different game. There's no trading yet,

623
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>yeah yet, But man, I'm having trouble with some of

624
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the things I'm seeing, Like Mason Miller.

625
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:02.639
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have trouble with my You're gonna have trouble

626
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>with my team, tim because I went I went laed

627
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>La Cruz one, and I got burned last year by

628
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 1>not having any closers, and I went, I went Edwin

629
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Diaz in the second round.

630
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Timmy, no problem, No problems with me. Yeah, none whatsoever.

631
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.159
<v Speaker 2>He's one of the few closers that I believe is

632
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 2>locked in. Okay, barring something incredibly unfortunate. Uh yeah, in

633
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the league you're playing, and you have known. If you

634
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>don't take him there, you're not getting him with your

635
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>third pick.

636
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>My logic was the following, Timmy, if everybody's gonna take

637
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>a closer early, yeah, what's the difference if you decide

638
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.159
<v Speaker 1>not to take a closer, Yeah, you get a better hitter.

639
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.599
<v Speaker 1>But everything just kind of drops down a level. So

640
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>instead of instead of uh kateel Marte going in the

641
00:37:57.559 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>second round, he just drops down to the third recause

642
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:02.639
<v Speaker 1>people are taking people are taking those guys earlier, and

643
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what you just deal with it. If everybody's

644
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 1>doing it, which they are, except for one or two players,

645
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>one or two managers, it's okay.

646
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all you're doing, like you said, you're just backing

647
00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 2>everything up. The problem, the problem that occurs is when

648
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 2>you're doing drafts outside of the n FBC and n FBC,

649
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>you're playing by two sets of criteria.

650
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:25.320
<v Speaker 1>That is correct.

651
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 2>And hey, you're you're not gonna fight City Hall. If

652
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 2>you want a closer, you either get Diaz then or

653
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>you end up with a whole lot of Robert Stevenson's Okay,

654
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:42.119
<v Speaker 2>you end up with Jason and I know, right, yeah, yeah,

655
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you've taken that under the equation. Good for you.

656
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're you're getting your five staves at the

657
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:48.920
<v Speaker 1>end of the season to keep you out a last

658
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 1>place from Victor Voddik. That's exactly what you get.

659
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yeah, exactly. And you ain't gonna win that way,

660
00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>not that you're not gonna do. You have to play

661
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that game.

662
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I went Elie de la Cruz one. I

663
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>felt really good about that. Again, I would have liked

664
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to have Corbyn Kaira went Edwin dis Number two. I

665
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 1>went Wyatt Langford, who I'm all in on this year,

666
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:16.079
<v Speaker 1>was all in last year. Number three. I had speed

667
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and power with Dead La Cruz. I had power, some

668
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:23.079
<v Speaker 1>good speed with Whyitet. Langford went big power. Next with

669
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Matt Olsen, I thought that was good value.

670
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>In the fourth round, that's awesome value. Yeah, I like

671
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:29.320
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing so far.

672
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I felt like I needed a picture and

673
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 1>fine off the board and Freddy Peralta was still there.

674
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I went Freddy Peralta.

675
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Good pick in the fifth round.

676
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>Then I went back and said, I want more strikeouts.

677
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I love the setup with Dylan Cease going to Toronto.

678
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I took Dylan Seas in the sixth round.

679
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

680
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Then I came back in the seventh round with Randy

681
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:57.800
<v Speaker 1>A Rose Arena, got more.

682
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Speed and power power funny.

683
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Then I came back with my second closer, don't laugh,

684
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 1>Dennis Santana. So I went with a high end closer

685
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.519
<v Speaker 1>and then a mid level closer that might live basically August.

686
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that basically says the state of saves. Okay,

687
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 2>when you're in what round seven yep, and you're looking

688
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.480
<v Speaker 2>at round eight yep. Yeah, there's nothing left?

689
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was nothing left? Yeah, yeah, your guy could

690
00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I could have taken your Saint Louis guy, and it

691
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:32.159
<v Speaker 1>was just yeah, I felt like I'd rather have done

692
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>as Santana in that case. Then I came back in

693
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:38.679
<v Speaker 1>round nine with Jackson Holiday like you did. I like

694
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that pick, and my next pick was an homage to

695
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Bob King High Jacob Marcy number ten.

696
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:50.920
<v Speaker 2>There we go, You're on this Christmas guardless, done like that.

697
00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Then came back with my picture that I will not

698
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>leave drafts without Shane Bose Maul and a Boz going

699
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Oriols. And then Timmy, I did it.

700
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:05.760
<v Speaker 2>You didn't.

701
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Tattas suiy Amaya is on Rich Wilson's team.

702
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.119
<v Speaker 2>You didn't have to worry about you. You didn't have

703
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:17.159
<v Speaker 2>to worry about the Christmas cardless but and you didn't

704
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.519
<v Speaker 2>have to worry about your ranking because I only send

705
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>out like three. Okay, So I like it. Rich. I

706
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 2>am impressed. You just won the league. It's over.

707
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm just like looking at it. And I

708
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about Garrit Cole in that spot and he's

709
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>coming back in May June. I was thinking about Gavin Williams.

710
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:40.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, the data doesn't look great on Gavin Williams.

711
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at Carlos Rodon, who's not going to

712
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>be back up till May or June. A lot of

713
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.679
<v Speaker 1>people don't know that he's going to start the season

714
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:47.880
<v Speaker 1>on the injured Reservelest, even though he started to So

715
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>those were the guys Mackenzie Gore and I said, if

716
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you know am I, and again I went through that's

717
00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.400
<v Speaker 1>what I called my friends at the Boris Company. They said,

718
00:41:57.920 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with this guy?

719
00:41:59.800 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Like?

720
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's what they said. You know, we we kind

721
00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.079
<v Speaker 1>of think their issues, but we think we can fix

722
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and we think he's going to fix them. And that

723
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>gave me the extra push. I said, well, what the heck,

724
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>let's let's give it a shot. It's supposed to be fun,

725
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.719
<v Speaker 1>and if it doesn't work, I figured, I get to

726
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:16.159
<v Speaker 1>blame you.

727
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I was just good to say.

728
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Went all the way because if it's bad and my

729
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>team stinks, I can blame you and I'll have fun

730
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 1>with it all season long. And if it's great, I

731
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>can say, oh, well, you know I I was the

732
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 1>one that made the decision.

733
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Of course, got lucky, okay, exactly. Yeah.

734
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 1>So then my next I got another picture. I went

735
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>heavy picture, and I know I got a guy you

736
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>do not like. I don't care, Ranger Swarrez. So I've

737
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:51.639
<v Speaker 1>got I've got Freddy Peralta, Dylan Cee Shane boz Amaya

738
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.079
<v Speaker 1>and Ranger Suarez is my one through five. I love

739
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Rangel Swarez is my fifth picture. Now I don't know

740
00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Rangel Swarz. There is a little concern he is a

741
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 1>bar a client that you know that he won't get

742
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 1>a job. There is that concern maybe that because he

743
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.159
<v Speaker 1>was dropping, he should have gone earlier than he did.

744
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>And I still don't have a catcher. I waited too

745
00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 1>long to get a catcher. That was a little bit

746
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of I just didn't like the catchers at the spots

747
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>where I could get other players. And I finally was

748
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 1>my first catcher. And I don't feel good about this

749
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't have a job yet. But it is

750
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 1>j t Romulto. I think the wires and it looks

751
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.199
<v Speaker 1>like the Phillies are trying to work out a deal

752
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.199
<v Speaker 1>with him. So I hope that the reporters are right there.

753
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think that's I think that's the eventuality. Yeah.

754
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So I got I got three outfielders, I got five starters.

755
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 1>I've got two closers. I do not have a second base.

756
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a second I do not have a third baseman.

757
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And I've got now I've got one catcher, so I'm

758
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:58.079
<v Speaker 1>I might go with I might go with a third

759
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>basement soon and get guy we were talking about Caballero,

760
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.679
<v Speaker 1>and uh, just get him for util a utility type

761
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of guy for downstream and might have a young young

762
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>some younger players who have some upside as well.

763
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you put him in play with Ellie and Langford

764
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and that should put you in an incredibly good spot

765
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>in the stolen based category.

766
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Remember I got I got Speedster.

767
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 2>You got Rosina too, Yeah, I got.

768
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Jacob Marcy, so I got plenty of speed. I affect.

769
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>You probably need a little bit of power, but that's

770
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:40.639
<v Speaker 1>that might be you know the guy in New York

771
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that I might go for some power. The thing if

772
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>if when I when I do my spreadsheet.

773
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Which Oka Oka Oka Oka the guy that when I

774
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 2>do my analysis.

775
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And this is one of the few times I can

776
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 1>remember that Actually, like my team, I haven't made any

777
00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>tremendous mistakes in the draft on it. It might not work,

778
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 1>but I haven't made like last year. I made a

779
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 1>mistake on the on the closer, and it was it

780
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>was a miss. It was a mistake and I knew it,

781
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.519
<v Speaker 1>and I spent the rest of the draft kind of

782
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to recover from it. I didn't make that same mistake,

783
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and I haven't. Yeah, I don't have a third basement,

784
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 1>but I'll get one. I'll figure that out out.

785
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll figure it out. Yeah.

786
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 1>So, and I feel good about my pitching as opposed

787
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to word, oh my gosh, I gotta get pitching. So

788
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I feel really good about it, which probably means I'm

789
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 1>going to come in last place. But I'm having fun.

790
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.559
<v Speaker 1>The draft is a little slow. There's a couple of

791
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 1>guys that draft really really slow. But you know, it's

792
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>fun to kind of get in there and start picking people.

793
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 1>It's very exhilarating to hit that draft button.

794
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what, excuse me. When you get through

795
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 2>to round ten, twelve and you've got a good, solid

796
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 2>mix and you're pitching, you got your closer, you've got

797
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:03.840
<v Speaker 2>some power, you got lots of speed, you should feel

798
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.079
<v Speaker 2>happy about that. Yeah. Yeah, you haven't put yourself into

799
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 2>a situation where you're behind the eight ball and you're

800
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:16.000
<v Speaker 2>searching for something that's not there. And in the NFBC formats,

801
00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:17.920
<v Speaker 2>if you get to round ten and you don't have

802
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.360
<v Speaker 2>a closer, you're gonna be overpaying for setup guys hoping

803
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 2>to strike gold. Okay, and that's in your format.

804
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Times you do, Yeah, sometimes you do. And you can

805
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 1>win the league by striking gold late with a closer

806
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>in thenc draft and hold. But it's it's tough.

807
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not the way to build a team. No,

808
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you'll lose more often than you ever have a chance

809
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 2>to win playing that sort of a game, and you

810
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 2>don't want that. You want to be you want to

811
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.360
<v Speaker 2>be part of the game and in the game, and

812
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, you get to the end of April

813
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and you don't have any saves and you don't have

814
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>any any any prospects for saves, Well, good luck. It's

815
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a long year.

816
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Yep. So that that's where I'm at. So fifteenth round

817
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and I like it too. I'm pretty happy with it. Well,

818
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.119
<v Speaker 1>it's probably going to be a good three weeks to

819
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>get this done because we're we're on day seven right now,

820
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 1>and so we're doing two picks a day. So it's

821
00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 1>again a little Yeah, it's a little on the slow side.

822
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, definitely being the consummate speed Ward that I am, Yeah,

823
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 2>I get no complaintable what you've done there at all.

824
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 1>And you know, again, I think the the easiest thing

825
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to find later on is low batting average and power,

826
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm pretty confident that I'm going to be

827
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:37.960
<v Speaker 1>able to find that in the draft, and then it's

828
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.239
<v Speaker 1>going to get to my sweet spot later on, and

829
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:41.639
<v Speaker 1>that's drafting prospects.

830
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, exactly after round thirty, you can start filling

831
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 2>it in with guys that you like for the second half.

832
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, even guys I like for the

833
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 1>first half. Tommy, let's take a quick break, come back,

834
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 1>and let's talk second base, shall we?

835
00:47:58.159 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Sure that sounds like fun.

836
00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Tim has been has ranked catchers, he has ranked first base.

837
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 1>If everybody wants to see and detail all of those rankings,

838
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 1>you can see that out at the Patreon site. Yes,

839
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 1>we put them out on prospect three sixty one. They're

840
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.320
<v Speaker 1>out there now. Actually the second base isn't out there yet,

841
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>but you get a lot more detail on the Patreon sights.

842
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 1>So I encourage everybody to head over there and join

843
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 1>us out there. It's five bucks a month or fifty

844
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:42.199
<v Speaker 1>four dollars for the year, Timmy, after spending hours upon

845
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 1>hours ranking and again, Tim is crazy, right, he actually

846
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 1>goes and starts from scratch, writes every name, types every

847
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>name down, doesn't use the last year, doesn't copy and

848
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>paste from last year. At least that's what he's told me.

849
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Because I even said, Timmy, I can give you every

850
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 1>position filled in with the NFBC ranking so that you

851
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 1>could just start to move stuff around. Him said, nope,

852
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to do it from scratch, which I totally respect.

853
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I would not do it that way because I'm lazy.

854
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of work. I go team by team.

855
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 2>I use roster resources, my source document, and I go

856
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:26.280
<v Speaker 2>team by team looking at the players they have slotted in,

857
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.760
<v Speaker 2>looking at the players on their Basically, I scan the

858
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.599
<v Speaker 2>top part that shows the free agents. I go through

859
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 2>the actual recommended roster that they've put together their bench slots,

860
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 2>and then I go to their prospects by each position.

861
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's how I go team by team by all

862
00:49:43.320 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 2>thirty teams, put them all out there. I shuffle a

863
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:49.719
<v Speaker 2>deck three or four times as I'm going along, moving

864
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.880
<v Speaker 2>players up and down and all over the place. And

865
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that's how I do it for every category. And I

866
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>just find the information that I get going into it

867
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.360
<v Speaker 2>in that much detail helps me out a lot a lot.

868
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>When it comes time for the real drafts.

869
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Richard, and you typed everything incorrectly because nobody came up

870
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:10.760
<v Speaker 1>as missing. The only person came up was missing was

871
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Sung Mon Song and that's because he, I think, is

872
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:17.559
<v Speaker 1>only third base eligible at the NFBC, and that's why

873
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>he did not come up. So maybe, yeah, I don't

874
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>know why he didn't come up, because it should have.

875
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is, I was sort of torn as

876
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 2>to what to do there because he's going to play

877
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 2>second base, okay from what I can gather. So if

878
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I put him in at third base, and I have

879
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.639
<v Speaker 2>to write a narrative, okay that explains that he's not

880
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.880
<v Speaker 2>going to be playing at third base, but he might

881
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>have third base eligibility, So I just put him in

882
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 2>a second base that looks like that's where his home

883
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.360
<v Speaker 2>is going to be. And whether he's at second or third,

884
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 2>take a look at your league, at your league settings,

885
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 2>and go from there. But yeah, you know he is.

886
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:56.000
<v Speaker 2>He's going to be playing at second base in San Diego.

887
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>So you spent hours working through this. Great job, by

888
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the way, great job, all of it. At second base

889
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.599
<v Speaker 1>in particular. I really liked how you went and approached

890
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it and kind of ranked the players. But you've been

891
00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's it's a it's a disaster. Maybe I'm

892
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>that's my word, but that's the impression I got. A

893
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>second base is not deep. After now going and doing

894
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the detail, is that your same position?

895
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>It's not deep. But as I said in my introductory narrative, yeah,

896
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:31.400
<v Speaker 2>you get a couple of elite players at the top.

897
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 2>You've got some upside with youth okay, and Holiday and

898
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Kishel okay. But what what second base does have to offer?

899
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:46.199
<v Speaker 2>His speed okay from Bryce terrag Nico Horner, Xavier at Edwards,

900
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Bryce and Caballero. I even put hes On Kim in

901
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 2>there because we need to have another zero point zero

902
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:59.239
<v Speaker 2>on this show. They're all capable of giving you good

903
00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 2>and basement. So my position on second base is take

904
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:07.920
<v Speaker 2>what that position has to offer, which is speed, and

905
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>build around it. Okay, take take what the position gives you.

906
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 2>Don't try and force the issue and just move forward.

907
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, although it's not deep in talent, it does

908
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.320
<v Speaker 2>have something to offer. It's just how you go about

909
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>working that. In year overall team build there are.

910
00:52:26.480 --> 00:52:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Some power guys, obviously, co tell Martine at number two.

911
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 1>There's power, Brandon Lowe, You've got a nine power there

912
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.039
<v Speaker 1>and potentially even more power for where he's going.

913
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:37.679
<v Speaker 2>Uh and.

914
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Who else? Oh well, I mean Jackson Holiday. Yeah, so,

915
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:48.119
<v Speaker 1>and jose L two base still going to hit some

916
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 1>home runs for you. So there there is some power there.

917
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is. But the way I'm approaching it is,

918
00:52:56.519 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna yeah, I'm not going to take jose

919
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:03.480
<v Speaker 2>L two v early to have a second baseman. I'm

920
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 2>going to find what I believe is a better power bad.

921
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I know it's sep religious to even say that when

922
00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about Josel two, But I'll look for my power

923
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 2>elsewhere and just take the stolen bases and plug it

924
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 2>in and go from there.

925
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So interesting how I approached second base when I did

926
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 1>my draft target. So I use I tweaked the algorithm

927
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 1>of by position depending on if it's a power position

928
00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>like first base, I will make I will make I

929
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 1>will goose up the power. So you've got to really

930
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>show a lot of power to rank high and second

931
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 1>base since it's a little light outdo but it's the

932
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>same kind of waiting across that and second base was

933
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.239
<v Speaker 1>very poor because of the lack of power. And I

934
00:53:50.480 --> 00:53:54.679
<v Speaker 1>use combination of exit velocity and hard hit exit velocity

935
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 1>and launch angles to try to look at if a

936
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:01.400
<v Speaker 1>guy has a chance to hit fifteen plus home runs

937
00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>or twenty plus some runs. And that's how I do it.

938
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 1>So that's why. And speed is this a single? It's

939
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:10.679
<v Speaker 1>just it's just like powers, just a singles. You know,

940
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 1>what's your speed? And look, yeah, cross reference that with

941
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.000
<v Speaker 1>how good you steal bases and you get a score

942
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 1>for that. But that's why second base came out for me,

943
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 1>very very poor.

944
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it would because you're limiting in your power bats, right,

945
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.119
<v Speaker 2>that's right. Yeah, And you're counting stolen bases as one category.

946
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Did you think of tying like runs scored into the

947
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.840
<v Speaker 2>stolen bases titlement to where they were hitting in the

948
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:35.480
<v Speaker 2>batting order.

949
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I did not do that level of dude. First of all,

950
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:42.199
<v Speaker 1>speed and and there's there's decent correlation, but not great

951
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 1>correlation between speed and run scored. It's actually run scored

952
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 1>on base skills where you're hitting in where you're hitting

953
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>in a lineup. And I did not drag in where

954
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.920
<v Speaker 1>they're hitting in a lineup. Okay, I don't even know.

955
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.360
<v Speaker 2>That might be something would be fun for next year.

956
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if fangraphs does that. And Timmy, I'm

957
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:03.679
<v Speaker 1>not like you. I'm not typing in guys' names. If

958
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't import it and adjust it, it ain't happening.

959
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.679
<v Speaker 2>There's more to life than control fee and control V

960
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:12.199
<v Speaker 2>damn it.

961
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I mean, so I pay down for Fangraphs,

962
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.159
<v Speaker 1>which is fifty dollars a year. It's it's fantastic. You

963
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:24.480
<v Speaker 1>get all kinds of added downloading facilities. But I don't

964
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.440
<v Speaker 1>know if if ross if you know, if the the

965
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:30.440
<v Speaker 1>roster resource part of it is downloadable. I didn't even

966
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 1>check into that, but but I'll think about that, Timmy.

967
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's get to your rankings, my friend. Okay, first four

968
00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you go, Chalk, Chas, Chisholm, Katel, Marte, Bryce Terring, Nico Horner.

969
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:46.159
<v Speaker 1>You're exactly the same as the NFBC. Anything to talk

970
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:48.559
<v Speaker 1>to highlight on those four players?

971
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 2>Ah well, hey, I think Chasm and Marte. Chisholm and

972
00:55:55.880 --> 00:56:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Marte are definitely the two elite players that you're looking at.

973
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>But Bryce Terrang.

974
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Showed more power last season, and the data supports.

975
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 2>That he showed more power stolen bases. We're down a

976
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>little bit. I think we're going to see potentially a

977
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:17.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty season of the terrain. Nico Horner sort of

978
00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 2>concerns me a little bit, and I almost I almost

979
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 2>moved Ja Jackson Holiday up a spot in that there

980
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 2>is a chance that the Cubs move on from Nico Horner,

981
00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and should that occur, where he ends up and where

982
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.599
<v Speaker 2>he ends up in that team's batting order could influence,

983
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:44.559
<v Speaker 2>of course, run scored potentially. Okay, so I decided to

984
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:49.119
<v Speaker 2>leave it as number four ahead a holiday. But that's

985
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that really concerns me is there's possibility

986
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 2>that Horner could be moved and how that comes into

987
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:58.599
<v Speaker 2>affecting his value. I really don't know. It will depend

988
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 2>on the team the bat or, and I would have

989
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:02.599
<v Speaker 2>to assume it's going to be to a very good

990
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:03.840
<v Speaker 2>team if he is moved.

991
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, again, believe it or not, everyone teams

992
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>don't care about stolen bases. Fantasy managers care about stolen bases.

993
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 2>But teams do not.

994
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And when you've got a guy that's hard, hit rates

995
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and exit velocities are in the bottom ten percent, and

996
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:23.719
<v Speaker 1>you know that that's driving your expected batting average. You

997
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 1>begin to worry if you're a team that hey, this

998
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.039
<v Speaker 1>batting average is eventually going to drop, which is going

999
00:57:30.119 --> 00:57:32.519
<v Speaker 1>to drop his own base percentage. And he's not a

1000
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 1>big walker. His walk rate is below twenty five percent

1001
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in the league. So you're hoping that he keeps up

1002
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>that big babbit, that he's had, the good, solid babbit,

1003
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and he's using his ability to get, you know, to

1004
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>make that happen. Is going to prop up everything. And

1005
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that's where I think from a baseball standpoint, teams will

1006
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:58.760
<v Speaker 1>start to be concerned. And I would I agree with Tim.

1007
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 1>That's a long wind. It ran an answer to say,

1008
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe Tim is right that the Cubs could decide

1009
00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to move on and say, hey, this guy's more of

1010
00:58:07.480 --> 00:58:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a utility guy, more of a Jose Cavalerio type of flayer.

1011
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's but other than that, those are the only

1012
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.519
<v Speaker 2>concerns I we Jazz Chishm of course has to stay healthy,

1013
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 2>as is Marte. But yeah, we're not betting on that.

1014
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:25.039
<v Speaker 2>We're looking at at pure skills. Unless somebody has never

1015
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 2>achieved any ad bets or the duration of his career. No,

1016
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 2>we don't have issues like that. In the top four

1017
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>at all.

1018
00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:33.559
<v Speaker 1>I will say our Patreon members, I wrote a link

1019
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the analysis of Jazz Chishm. I'll just tell everyone just

1020
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>be careful with gass Chism. The data does not support

1021
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:44.559
<v Speaker 1>the power and speed that he showed last season.

1022
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was one of only seven players who went

1023
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>thirty thirty. I understand that's big numbers, but I understand.

1024
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.079
<v Speaker 1>But if you take a look at the if you

1025
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.679
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what he how many home runs, and how

1026
00:58:58.719 --> 00:59:01.480
<v Speaker 1>many stolen bases he had, and were descended through an

1027
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:03.559
<v Speaker 1>analysis engine, it would come up with something a lot

1028
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 1>less than that because the data just does not support that.

1029
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Right.

1030
00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Your guy, my guy, Tammy, because I know you drafted

1031
00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 1>him in your first draft, is Jackson Holiday. I continue

1032
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to be all in on him. It looks like you

1033
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 1>are because he is three better than the NFBC.

1034
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Hey, I he went seventeen seventeen last year. He's

1035
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:24.440
<v Speaker 2>going twenty twenty this year. I think.

1036
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Remind me how old he is.

1037
00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Fourteen.

1038
00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a very young.

1039
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:34.960
<v Speaker 2>He's very young with upside. If I had to look

1040
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.679
<v Speaker 2>potentially heading into next year, I could see him being

1041
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:43.599
<v Speaker 2>as high as top three. I'm that bullish on Jackson

1042
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Holiday moving forward, I can't. I can't rank him at

1043
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:51.679
<v Speaker 2>number three this year, but I think the potential is

1044
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:55.000
<v Speaker 2>there that he could and hey, you know it's gestism.

1045
00:59:56.639 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 2>At some point, IMI might not qualify, right, So Jackson

1046
01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 2>always got a bright future.

1047
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:06.559
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, Jackson Holiday just separated celebrate celebrating a

1048
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:11.400
<v Speaker 1>birthday on December fourth, Timmy, he turned twenty two years old.

1049
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>That is a two followed by a two.

1050
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we haven't seen his best season, not even close.

1051
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Nope. And he hits the ball really hard. It's a

1052
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.599
<v Speaker 1>ballharder any think they're they're yeah anyway, Okay, rounding out

1053
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:28.800
<v Speaker 1>that top ten, we got Jose Altuve, the one and only,

1054
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Jose al Tvy, Luke Keishall Ozzi, Alby's, Brandon Lowe, and

1055
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Bryson Stott. I do not like that second half of

1056
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the top ten Sans Luke, Keisha Temmy, Jose al Tuv

1057
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 1>is old Ozzi, Alby's is not the same guy. Brandon

1058
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Low's got power, nothing else, and Bryce Stott's got speed

1059
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:49.039
<v Speaker 1>and no power.

1060
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now Stott's good for ten home runs. I think

1061
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.760
<v Speaker 2>he's okay, like he's boyd, but yeah, I get what

1062
01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you're saying, yeah, the guy, the guy that I like

1063
01:00:59.079 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 2>in that second group, uh is obviously the same same

1064
01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.119
<v Speaker 2>one that most other people are like. And then that's Keisho.

1065
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.559
<v Speaker 2>And it's hard not to like with that eighty eighty

1066
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:11.440
<v Speaker 2>five great speed.

1067
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And I changed that on. I changed there is no

1068
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.760
<v Speaker 1>such thing as eighty five great speed.

1069
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:22.559
<v Speaker 2>I pulled that somewhere.

1070
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I changed that to a good speed or great speed

1071
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.800
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. When it got published, I forgot

1072
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to tell you.

1073
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:33.519
<v Speaker 2>That that's fine. You know he can run, well, yeah,

1074
01:01:33.559 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 2>he's got he's got. Yeah. There could be forty forty

1075
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 2>stolen bases there, goodn't there?

1076
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Keisha? I think so. I think he can hit with speed,

1077
01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of pop. I like Keisha a lot

1078
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:47.000
<v Speaker 1>holds on two of me. He's a little scary. I mean,

1079
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:49.159
<v Speaker 1>he's getting old. I don't know how he's hitting in

1080
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the home runs. Demmy, the data says the power is gone,

1081
01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but he's still doing it.

1082
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I put in my narrative like a fine wine.

1083
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:02.400
<v Speaker 2>He's aging gracefully, and I think there's I think he's

1084
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.400
<v Speaker 2>got another season at twenty five home run seventy RBIs

1085
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen stolen bases, I think he can. He

1086
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 2>can accomplish that this year, and that puts him solidly

1087
01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 2>in that group. Now it's hey, you've got a right

1088
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.000
<v Speaker 2>to be concerned because he's thirty six years old. Not

1089
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 2>too many second basemen after the age of thirty five

1090
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:28.039
<v Speaker 2>produce at a solid level. So yeah, I think there's

1091
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:35.519
<v Speaker 2>reason to be concerned. My targets, other than Holiday and Kisho,

1092
01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:39.159
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, they're not in that. They're not

1093
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:40.079
<v Speaker 2>in that top ten.

1094
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Look, there's been no bigger supporter of Jose al two

1095
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:48.079
<v Speaker 1>I think than me, right, And I'm not touching jose Olt.

1096
01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't touch him last season. I was wrong. I'm

1097
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:53.960
<v Speaker 1>not touching him this season. I just the setup is terrible, Tommy,

1098
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just terrible.

1099
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:57.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, agreed.

1100
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:02.360
<v Speaker 1>And Ozzie Alvi's I warned everybody. I warned everybody in

1101
01:03:02.360 --> 01:03:04.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four that the data was not supporting what

1102
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:06.920
<v Speaker 1>this guy was doing, and he has just dropped off

1103
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a cliff.

1104
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think one of the problems when you

1105
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 2>take a look at Alby's okay, everybody looks to Ozsi

1106
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Alby's okay and sees twenty twenty three, I believe it

1107
01:03:23.360 --> 01:03:27.039
<v Speaker 2>is Yeah, that's the magic number twenty twenty three, and

1108
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:31.000
<v Speaker 2>they see thirty three home runs, one hundred and nine RBIs,

1109
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:37.440
<v Speaker 2>thirteen stolen bases, ninety six runs scored. That's not the

1110
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Ozzy Alby's that we are looking at today. We're looking

1111
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.079
<v Speaker 2>at a player that is going to hit I believe

1112
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.400
<v Speaker 2>fifteen to twenty home runs, drive in seventy maybe steal

1113
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:51.000
<v Speaker 2>ten twelve bases with a two forty two fifty average.

1114
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Our mindset has to adjust from the fact that I

1115
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.840
<v Speaker 2>don't think Ozzy Alby's is the same player he was

1116
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 2>two years ago. I think he's still a good player,

1117
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.440
<v Speaker 2>but it's all about where you said the bar.

1118
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:09.079
<v Speaker 1>His average exivelocity is eighty seven point five miles an hour.

1119
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 1>He's doing it all through launch. Eventually the launch doesn't

1120
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 1>work because then you become warning track home run power

1121
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:20.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's he's just not aging well at all,

1122
01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's just and the speed to me, he's just gone.

1123
01:04:23.440 --> 01:04:25.599
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's the forty fourth percentile.

1124
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you're you're looking at Ozzie Albi's being the

1125
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm based on my ranks the eight second basement going

1126
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:36.719
<v Speaker 2>off the board, but he's going with an ADP of

1127
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:40.159
<v Speaker 2>one sixty six, okay, which puts you in the twelfth round.

1128
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any problems with Ozzie Albi's in the

1129
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:44.960
<v Speaker 2>twelfth to fifteenth round.

1130
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:47.880
<v Speaker 1>He's a fifteenth, He's a fifteenth to fifteen player and

1131
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.440
<v Speaker 1>my home oopeny with no upside though yeah, no, I

1132
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 1>agree totally.

1133
01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all about how much you pay for him and

1134
01:04:56.039 --> 01:04:58.719
<v Speaker 2>when you decide to when you decide to go all in.

1135
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Ye agreed to me to take a break and do

1136
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 1>the next ten shall we yees?

1137
01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

1138
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Tippy for my buddy sat Don Ruffaela has him at

1139
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:22.360
<v Speaker 1>eleven and if you see he's going at six. Otto Lopez,

1140
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Xavier Edwards, labor tour is boring old labor tours, Jose Caballero,

1141
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Luis Garcia Junior, Jorge Polanco, Matt McClain, number nineteen, Marcus Simeon, Wow,

1142
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:38.079
<v Speaker 1>have the mighty have fallen? And then Brent Batty and

1143
01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it coming to number twenty one times all in on

1144
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.559
<v Speaker 1>the hey Sung Kim eighteen slots higher than the.

1145
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.679
<v Speaker 2>So there's a zero white zero the wow.

1146
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 1>Wow, let's talk about him now, Timmy, I mean, where's

1147
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.760
<v Speaker 1>all the love coming? For for Haysung, that's the that's

1148
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers kid.

1149
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:02.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Dodgers kid. When you take a look at

1150
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:04.599
<v Speaker 2>what he did last year in his first year over

1151
01:06:04.679 --> 01:06:07.400
<v Speaker 2>rebounced back and or being the Dodgers in Oklahoma City

1152
01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:11.000
<v Speaker 2>finished the year in LA. He had eight home runs,

1153
01:06:11.039 --> 01:06:13.840
<v Speaker 2>stole twenty seven at bases in three hundred and ten

1154
01:06:14.079 --> 01:06:17.880
<v Speaker 2>at bats combined. The love is coming from the fact

1155
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that I think after a first I'll call it adjustment

1156
01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Yim year, much the same as we saw with Hassan

1157
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Kim in San Diego. I think we can look at

1158
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 2>five to ten home runs and I think we can

1159
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 2>look at thirty plus stolen bases in a full season

1160
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:37.360
<v Speaker 2>of ball, and it looks like he has the second

1161
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:41.519
<v Speaker 2>base job in LA. It's his to lose, and I

1162
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's going to so I think there's value

1163
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.440
<v Speaker 2>sitting there, and if you're leaving him till thirty nine,

1164
01:06:48.599 --> 01:06:51.039
<v Speaker 2>he'll be on all of my teams. It's as simple

1165
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.599
<v Speaker 2>as that. I think it's a combination of opportunity and skills,

1166
01:06:54.719 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 2>and hey, he's going to hit the number nine slot.

1167
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Is that a bad thing when you've got hitting immediately

1168
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:06.840
<v Speaker 2>after you o Tawny and Betts and Freeman and you know, yeah,

1169
01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:09.719
<v Speaker 2>he could score a significant number of runs hitting out

1170
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.559
<v Speaker 2>of the ninth spot with the bats following them. I think, so, I, hey,

1171
01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I do I want Brendan Donovan before taking a chance?

1172
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 2>No on Kim? No do I want cronin North do it?

1173
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:27.360
<v Speaker 2>You know second base is not deep rich if once

1174
01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you get into the twenty to thirty five, into that grouping,

1175
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.880
<v Speaker 2>if I'm looking at second basement in the I'm going

1176
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:35.880
<v Speaker 2>to take a chance on upside every day of the week.

1177
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he didn't score well on my analysis, Timmy, the

1178
01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.320
<v Speaker 1>average ex of velocity was eighty six miles an hour.

1179
01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was just a small sample size that get

1180
01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it one hundred and sixty one at bats. He has fast,

1181
01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.880
<v Speaker 1>there's no question about that. Struck out too much, never walk,

1182
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:55.199
<v Speaker 1>So it was hard for me to rank him high.

1183
01:07:55.320 --> 01:08:00.320
<v Speaker 1>But I do respect the fact that Hasan Kim if

1184
01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he follows a similar path there which Haw's Kim turned

1185
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.920
<v Speaker 1>out to be really good baseball player. And if Hassan

1186
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Kim can you know, kind of get you know, start

1187
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.559
<v Speaker 1>to grow in a little bit to his man's strength

1188
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and get full time at bats, maybe he can perform

1189
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot better, So I will definitely support you on that.

1190
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, thank you very much. I appreciate that.

1191
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I won't call you crazy.

1192
01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 2>In other words, Okay, yeah, I think it's I think

1193
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I formed a logical argument. Whether it comes to fruition

1194
01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:29.479
<v Speaker 2>or not, we'll see.

1195
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:31.800
<v Speaker 1>But when I start, I like the argument. I like

1196
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:35.119
<v Speaker 1>the setup based on how you have presented it. I'm

1197
01:08:35.119 --> 01:08:38.600
<v Speaker 1>always looking for setups, right, I'm looking for upside of guys.

1198
01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:42.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking for Azzi Albi's if I if I

1199
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:44.479
<v Speaker 1>get stuck with Abi Albi's, then okay, I get it.

1200
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm looking for some guys that have really good setups,

1201
01:08:46.960 --> 01:08:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and you painted a good one for Hassan Kim.

1202
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:50.439
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

1203
01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, now let's talk about Satan Rafaela. What's up, McLeod.

1204
01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:59.560
<v Speaker 2>How can you rank a guy that walked like fourteen

1205
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:02.520
<v Speaker 2>times a year before? Okay? How can you rank him

1206
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:07.279
<v Speaker 2>as number six? If I can't okay, I still think

1207
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:11.039
<v Speaker 2>there's questions about the had tool, and I want to

1208
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:13.840
<v Speaker 2>see another year before I start moving him up into

1209
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the top five six. So basically, that's that's where I'm at.

1210
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Sixteen home runs in twenty solem bases last year almost

1211
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:25.359
<v Speaker 1>did almost at twenty twenty.

1212
01:09:26.439 --> 01:09:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he did, and hey, the walk rate's improved. I

1213
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:31.680
<v Speaker 2>want to see a bit more before I start moving

1214
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:35.680
<v Speaker 2>him up into that higher echelon.

1215
01:09:38.119 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I he did not make my He did not

1216
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:43.520
<v Speaker 1>make one of my targets, But I do, like Saydan Raffaela,

1217
01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.000
<v Speaker 1>because I I mean, when I did the breakdown of

1218
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Pete Crow Armstrong and people can think I'm crazy, but

1219
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:53.119
<v Speaker 1>the data supports this. Pe kro Armstrong has a lot

1220
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:58.600
<v Speaker 1>more leverage than Saydan Rafaela. Otherwise they are exactly the

1221
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 1>same player statistic. So yeah, I just if Peaker Armstrong

1222
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:06.760
<v Speaker 1>is going in the second and third round. Yeah, either

1223
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.640
<v Speaker 1>one of them's too high or one of them's too low.

1224
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll let people figure that out.

1225
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's yeah, I get it.

1226
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:22.159
<v Speaker 1>All right. Uh, Labor Torres, m h. If you get

1227
01:10:22.319 --> 01:10:25.359
<v Speaker 1>stuck at second basis, Labor Torre is a horrible guy

1228
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to have as your second basement.

1229
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Not at all. Yeah, you're looking at a guy with

1230
01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:33.680
<v Speaker 2>ADB at two forty five. I've moved him up a

1231
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit because if you take a little what he's

1232
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:38.159
<v Speaker 2>done over the past four seasons, he's got one, two

1233
01:10:38.199 --> 01:10:41.520
<v Speaker 2>fifty six, two fifty two years of two fifty seven

1234
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:44.600
<v Speaker 2>batting average, So I think you can safely say between

1235
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.960
<v Speaker 2>two fifty and two sixty's a good spot for him.

1236
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:49.119
<v Speaker 2>He's had one year that was down a bit in

1237
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:52.439
<v Speaker 2>the power at fifteen home runs, but if you're the

1238
01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:55.079
<v Speaker 2>range is fifteen to twenty four. Over the past four years,

1239
01:10:55.119 --> 01:10:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the RBI total has been between sixty three and seventy six.

1240
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.039
<v Speaker 2>I think he's perfectly safe and verging on being boring.

1241
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.239
<v Speaker 2>The only thing he doesn't bring to the table is speed.

1242
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:09.560
<v Speaker 2>But you're looking at pick two forty five. Okay, so

1243
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:16.199
<v Speaker 2>you're looking what lateeen rounds? Yeah, yeah, I don't think

1244
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:19.119
<v Speaker 2>he can go wrong with labor tours and round you're

1245
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:24.119
<v Speaker 2>looking at ninety five six and round sixteen, seventeen eighteen. No,

1246
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a fine pick.

1247
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't like Matt McClain. You're talking to strike out

1248
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:33.800
<v Speaker 1>strikeout rates are soaring for sure. I mean in two

1249
01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:38.279
<v Speaker 1>thou twenty three he had twenty eight point five ers

1250
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a striker rate, was missed all of twenty twenty four

1251
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and struck out twenty nine percent of the time last year.

1252
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 1>That obviously is not good expect at batting nevers of

1253
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.279
<v Speaker 1>two thirteen. That is not good. He is fast, he

1254
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a ton of power yet, but he did

1255
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:56.319
<v Speaker 1>go fifteen to eighteen last season, you know, and played

1256
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.720
<v Speaker 1>full time. So what can I expect from him this year?

1257
01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:05.920
<v Speaker 2>I will say twelve to fifteen home runs, fifty to

1258
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:10.880
<v Speaker 2>sixty maybe are weis. I'll go with twenty stolen bases

1259
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:14.159
<v Speaker 2>eighteen to twenty and a batting average somewhere between one

1260
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:16.239
<v Speaker 2>ninety and two ten.

1261
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:17.800
<v Speaker 1>You're just down on them.

1262
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, when you strike over one hundred and sixty seven times, okay,

1263
01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.399
<v Speaker 2>in five hundred and ten a bat that's a big number.

1264
01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.119
<v Speaker 2>And I don't see how he's going to support a

1265
01:12:27.159 --> 01:12:31.880
<v Speaker 2>half decent batting average. So for me, he's the type

1266
01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:35.600
<v Speaker 2>of player that I probably won't pick. I could end

1267
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.520
<v Speaker 2>up with a guy that hits two ten, two fifteen

1268
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:42.479
<v Speaker 2>in my middle endfield, but I'm not going to draft

1269
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:45.720
<v Speaker 2>a guy knowing that he's going to do that, if

1270
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that makes any sense. And I'm convinced right now that

1271
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Matt McLean is not He's not going to generate a

1272
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:55.239
<v Speaker 2>batting average, so I'm not going to blow off a

1273
01:12:55.319 --> 01:12:58.840
<v Speaker 2>category to get the home run and speed potential. Out

1274
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of them, I'll look elsewhere.

1275
01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Marcus Simeon. I think it's fair to

1276
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:09.920
<v Speaker 1>say Marcus Simon is not the same guy he was

1277
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a few years ago. I mean, just as't the ball

1278
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:14.600
<v Speaker 1>as hard as he used to. He still is pretty

1279
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 1>fast eighty one percent rating under sprint speed, and he

1280
01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:22.439
<v Speaker 1>still hits fairly well if you get and again he's

1281
01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:24.479
<v Speaker 1>thirty five. So who's as old as the hills?

1282
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes he is.

1283
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Statistically he looks like I mean, at as a middle infielder,

1284
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:34.279
<v Speaker 1>can you do worse than Marcus Simeon?

1285
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah, yeah you can. You can end up

1286
01:13:42.479 --> 01:13:44.560
<v Speaker 2>you can, you can end up with a lot worse

1287
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:47.560
<v Speaker 2>than Marcus Simeon. But I think that speaks to the

1288
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:52.880
<v Speaker 2>caliber of the player pool at the second base more

1289
01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:54.960
<v Speaker 2>so than the skills of sim And you know, you're

1290
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 2>looking at a guy who is going to probably yeah

1291
01:13:59.720 --> 01:14:04.039
<v Speaker 2>fifty into twenty home runs, seventy RBIs, five to ten

1292
01:14:04.159 --> 01:14:09.359
<v Speaker 2>stolen bases and two thirty two forty batting average. You

1293
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:12.159
<v Speaker 2>know is OBP the past two years has been three eight,

1294
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.520
<v Speaker 2>three oh five. His OPS was down to six sixty

1295
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 2>nine from six to ninety nine from eight twenty six.

1296
01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:23.159
<v Speaker 2>The past couple of years, he'll be thirty six. Yeah,

1297
01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:26.199
<v Speaker 2>you can, you can do worse. It's just know your

1298
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:32.880
<v Speaker 2>parameters outs that and yeah, the reality is he's at

1299
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the decline. It's commenced. And I don't see a bounce

1300
01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:39.439
<v Speaker 2>back from Marcus. I mean, moving to the Mets, they're

1301
01:14:39.439 --> 01:14:40.159
<v Speaker 2>moving anywhere.

1302
01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't see a bounce. But I guess maybe I

1303
01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:46.119
<v Speaker 1>said it poorly. I mean, if you get caught out

1304
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:48.760
<v Speaker 1>on middle infield, I mean, he is what he is.

1305
01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:51.479
<v Speaker 1>There's speed's still there, there's a little bit of power

1306
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 1>he should hit. I'm surprised how bad his batting average was.

1307
01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the Mets is going to be

1308
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:02.199
<v Speaker 1>better or worse for him. I mean I could see

1309
01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 1>things imploding in metaland if they get off to a

1310
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 1>tough start.

1311
01:15:08.399 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they haven't really done much this offseason, have they.

1312
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:17.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, Hey, what happens if bred Beaty struggles or

1313
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Viento's okay, if Senga is hurt and can't you know,

1314
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:24.159
<v Speaker 2>can't get it, sim bring up the kids, Bring up

1315
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the kids. When I look at Semi and I see

1316
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 2>he's going right now at two sixty Okayjrgate Polanco's at

1317
01:15:32.640 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 2>two forty six, uh Cavallera's at two thirty seven, Glabor

1318
01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Tors is at two forty five. There's a lot of

1319
01:15:40.079 --> 01:15:42.680
<v Speaker 2>players that are going off the board in that range,

1320
01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and he's just one of the four or five players

1321
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.399
<v Speaker 2>that I think fit into that spot in the draft,

1322
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'd be fine with all of them if that's

1323
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.680
<v Speaker 2>the way I'm approaching second base. For me, I'm looking

1324
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.520
<v Speaker 2>at the speed, So if I'm looking at one of

1325
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.520
<v Speaker 2>those guys, it's only because I've shored up my speed

1326
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:03.760
<v Speaker 2>right and it's no longer a priority.

1327
01:16:04.920 --> 01:16:08.640
<v Speaker 1>Mhm. My NFBC just said I'm on deck to him,

1328
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm actually picking cond of Griffin just went

1329
01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:16.279
<v Speaker 1>off the board. I was actually thinking about that as well.

1330
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:19.560
<v Speaker 1>So should I do this, Jose Cavallera. I think I'm

1331
01:16:19.560 --> 01:16:20.079
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that.

1332
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:24.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you think you can get your power. It

1333
01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:28.279
<v Speaker 2>depends on the starting pictures available too. There's no relief pictures, obviously,

1334
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:30.359
<v Speaker 2>but at least I do'be.

1335
01:16:30.399 --> 01:16:35.880
<v Speaker 1>There is Rookie Forsake, will Ves, Chris Bubeck, Connolly, Early,

1336
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Zach Galen, Matthew Boyd. There's still some guys I'll get

1337
01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:44.800
<v Speaker 1>more pitches, but I mean, the multi player eligibility is

1338
01:16:44.920 --> 01:16:48.840
<v Speaker 1>so valuable in this format. It is, but I don't

1339
01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:50.920
<v Speaker 1>need the speed, which is what he's going to provide.

1340
01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna hold off

1341
01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:55.600
<v Speaker 1>making that. I don't want to make a call here

1342
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:57.279
<v Speaker 1>on my uh on a podcast.

1343
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, because you want to take a lover and

1344
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:01.800
<v Speaker 2>see what power guys are left out there. There might

1345
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.399
<v Speaker 2>be a guy that will give you ten to fifteen

1346
01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:06.760
<v Speaker 2>stolen bases to go along with twenty five home runs, right,

1347
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:09.479
<v Speaker 2>that is more valuable. You know.

1348
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can just grab somebody that

1349
01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:15.720
<v Speaker 1>took Corvin Carroll? Can I have him? I'll give you

1350
01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Jose Cavallero. Let's get back to second base here, Xavier Edwards.

1351
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:27.680
<v Speaker 1>You down him three from where he was going to

1352
01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the NFBC and not a guy that's as you mentioned

1353
01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:33.680
<v Speaker 1>at the top, it's speeding zero power.

1354
01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is no power whatsoever. I remember last year

1355
01:17:39.479 --> 01:17:41.520
<v Speaker 2>about this time, and I was one of those guys

1356
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that was huge on Edwards because I saw the thirty

1357
01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:46.760
<v Speaker 2>one stolen bases in two hundred and sixty some odd

1358
01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.439
<v Speaker 2>bats the year before in twenty twenty four. Yeah, we

1359
01:17:49.520 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>were all thinking big numbers. Injuries cut those numbers down

1360
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:58.880
<v Speaker 2>significantly to only twenty seven stolen bases last year. I

1361
01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:03.000
<v Speaker 2>think he can steal thirty in his sleep. But at

1362
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the same point in time, how much do I want

1363
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:07.880
<v Speaker 2>to pay for that thirty? I don't want to pay

1364
01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:09.439
<v Speaker 2>as much as the NFBC guys do.

1365
01:18:10.159 --> 01:18:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I kind of agree there. Twenty two starts Tommy Edmund,

1366
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Donovan, Colt Keith, Jake Cronaworth, Sun Moon's Song, Andre

1367
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Andre's Geminez, Jonathan India, Ernie Clement and Romy Gonzalez. Give

1368
01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:30.079
<v Speaker 1>me two guys in that grouping that you'd really like

1369
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:30.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more.

1370
01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Get ready to hit zero point zero. But Sun Moon's song, Okay,

1371
01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.640
<v Speaker 2>past two years in Korea have been great. Okay, if

1372
01:18:41.640 --> 01:18:45.399
<v Speaker 2>he can find you don't have to. I have him

1373
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:48.880
<v Speaker 2>ranked there. That doesn't mean you have to draft him there. Okay,

1374
01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you can probably pick him up in the four to

1375
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>five hundred range, but he's got potential for full time

1376
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:59.800
<v Speaker 2>playing time. He is definitely one of them, and you

1377
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:03.720
<v Speaker 2>know he's going so late. I look at Jonathan India

1378
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.399
<v Speaker 2>India and he's never been a great player, but he

1379
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:10.800
<v Speaker 2>had four really good years and then Ken So yeah,

1380
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 2>and Kansas City decided last year okay, that they wanted

1381
01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.640
<v Speaker 2>him to be their super sub. So he spent spring

1382
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:22.199
<v Speaker 2>training learning two new positions, okay, and it flopped. Now

1383
01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:26.079
<v Speaker 2>the Royals are going back to him as a regular

1384
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 2>second basement this year, and they've spent eight million for

1385
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:33.079
<v Speaker 2>the luxury of doing it. I think we could see

1386
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:36.359
<v Speaker 2>a bounce back from India to the levels of play

1387
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:39.920
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty four to twenty twenty three, which is,

1388
01:19:40.039 --> 01:19:42.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, mid teen power ten to twelve stolen bases

1389
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a decent player. So I've moved India up a little

1390
01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.600
<v Speaker 2>bit because I think there is a shot at a

1391
01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:52.159
<v Speaker 2>bounce back from him. And when you look at all

1392
01:19:52.199 --> 01:19:56.760
<v Speaker 2>of the players down here, there's flaws all over the place. Again,

1393
01:19:56.840 --> 01:20:00.680
<v Speaker 2>I think India represents the potential for some upside. Rich Uh.

1394
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>He actually ranked pretty high on my analysis. I did

1395
01:20:03.800 --> 01:20:06.399
<v Speaker 1>not rank him as a target, but he was right

1396
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:08.399
<v Speaker 1>on the cusps. So I'm kind of in agreement with you.

1397
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I did not think about all the setup for uh,

1398
01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, learning, learning the multiple positions. I kind of

1399
01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:17.880
<v Speaker 1>love that narrative that you just did, so that in

1400
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>combination with what you said, with what the data is showing,

1401
01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I kind of support where you are with that. What's

1402
01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the second guy in that grouping?

1403
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:30.840
<v Speaker 2>The second guy in that grouping? Ah? Hey, I I

1404
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:36.560
<v Speaker 2>think if the Jays don't re up with Boba Schett,

1405
01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's a very real possibility because I'm

1406
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:40.640
<v Speaker 2>hearing they're still they're still in on.

1407
01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I hear the Yankees are really in on uh On

1408
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Boba Schett.

1409
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could I could see that. I think the

1410
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Jays are still chasing hard on Kyle Tucker. Okay, so

1411
01:20:56.199 --> 01:20:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you know Immanez up until last year, he's going to

1412
01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:03.520
<v Speaker 2>play somewhere because of his glove. But I could see

1413
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:08.520
<v Speaker 2>ten twelve home runs, maybe twenty five stolen bases as

1414
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:12.199
<v Speaker 2>a late middle infield value. I'd look at him and as.

1415
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Timmy, let's sick, let's sick. Let's do a couple more

1416
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>questions here, Let's take another break, come back and yeah,

1417
01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:23.600
<v Speaker 1>tack another break, come back, and we'll start to ask

1418
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>the hard questions, shall we.

1419
01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:27.119
<v Speaker 2>That sounds good to me.

1420
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:29.199
<v Speaker 1>An hour and twenty one.

1421
01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:29.439
<v Speaker 2>Who.

1422
01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Timmy gave me a little grace as I had to

1423
01:21:44.279 --> 01:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>go to the potty, Timmy, I couldn't take it anymore.

1424
01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I was Chris crossing my legs and it wasn't working.

1425
01:21:51.239 --> 01:21:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That's never a good sign, my friend, never ever, ever.

1426
01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I got to give you the time for that pause

1427
01:21:58.279 --> 01:21:58.880
<v Speaker 2>for the cause.

1428
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:05.279
<v Speaker 1>A couple other guys here late. Uh uh, Lennon, So

1429
01:22:05.600 --> 01:22:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming that's because he's out of it. You don't

1430
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:10.039
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to get a job. And Kristen Campbell

1431
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:13.159
<v Speaker 1>all the way down to forty thirty not big on him.

1432
01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Don't don't think he's going to get playing time. I'm

1433
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:18.199
<v Speaker 1>assuming could he give us some color on both of

1434
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.159
<v Speaker 1>those players. Well?

1435
01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:27.720
<v Speaker 2>In Boston with Campbell, uh, the Red Sox apparently are

1436
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:30.439
<v Speaker 2>saying the preferred position they would like him to be

1437
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:35.600
<v Speaker 2>playing his left field. Okay, well they've got about fourteen

1438
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:40.119
<v Speaker 2>left fielders. Okay, you look at the oatfield. You know,

1439
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.439
<v Speaker 2>I got Duran, you got Rafaela who plays, you know

1440
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:47.199
<v Speaker 2>will A Brew, you got Roman Anthony. Okay, I just

1441
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:53.960
<v Speaker 2>don't see Campbell fitting fitting in anywhere right now? How

1442
01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:58.039
<v Speaker 2>is that? I just hey, I think the potential, the

1443
01:22:58.159 --> 01:23:00.000
<v Speaker 2>skills are there, but I just don't see a pass

1444
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the playing time right now. So how do I rank

1445
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:06.359
<v Speaker 2>him above, Say, I've got romy Gonzalez at thirty, Okay,

1446
01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:12.640
<v Speaker 2>much higher. But Gonzales, he hits about hard, sprints, speeds solid.

1447
01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:17.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, there there are options in Boston. My problem

1448
01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:21.800
<v Speaker 2>is playing time. And with Lennon Sosa, he went from

1449
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>being an everyday, everyday type player, okay, to not being,

1450
01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:34.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, an everyday type player. So again, I don't

1451
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:37.359
<v Speaker 2>know what's up with len and Sosa. Okay, it looks

1452
01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>like they've got meat drawed into the leadoffs while the

1453
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>second base at DH they're looking at Quorros Sosa gonna

1454
01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:53.600
<v Speaker 2>fit in as a DH. It's playing time related and

1455
01:23:54.119 --> 01:23:58.880
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't look like he's going to get full time

1456
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:01.760
<v Speaker 2>at bats. So I've just down shifted. And again I

1457
01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:03.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on with the White Sox, but

1458
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:08.640
<v Speaker 2>we haven't heard much good about Lenonsoza or much of

1459
01:24:08.760 --> 01:24:11.840
<v Speaker 2>anything about Lenon Sosa this offseason at all. So I'm

1460
01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:17.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm just anticipating fewer at bats, fewer opportunities, and let's

1461
01:24:17.319 --> 01:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>let's move them down a little bit.

1462
01:24:20.319 --> 01:24:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Out of these last forty or so players, give me

1463
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a handful of guys that you're looking at for sleepers.

1464
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:35.479
<v Speaker 2>Sleepers, how can you not like Adele Lamador, Well, he.

1465
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Definitely can hit. I mean, but it was not very

1466
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>good when he got the promotion, and it's it's it's

1467
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the Rockies, Yeah.

1468
01:24:42.640 --> 01:24:48.840
<v Speaker 2>It's the Rockies. If I'm going down this list, the

1469
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>guys that would intrigue me are all in a clump

1470
01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:53.800
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom, because again we don't know when they're

1471
01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:57.359
<v Speaker 2>going to get the call it. Max Anderson, Bryce Matthews, Bazanna,

1472
01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Troy, Okay, Treent. If the Cubs look at moving

1473
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Nico Horner, Triantos could fit into the picture. Rockery zo

1474
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I had had to give him a mention. Tomar Johnson,

1475
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:15.479
<v Speaker 2>I think when you start looking at forty to fifty,

1476
01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of players that will eventually end up

1477
01:25:19.359 --> 01:25:26.279
<v Speaker 2>rostered as injury replacements. Guys like Mauricio debonn Okay, possibly

1478
01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Cool Young, you know, Rocchio, Arias in Cleveland, Angel Martinez,

1479
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Fossley's got the outfield eligibility, Tim Tawell on Arizona. There's

1480
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of players that I don't think are everyday players,

1481
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>but they will hold value at some point in the

1482
01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:52.720
<v Speaker 2>season as injury replacements, and do I want I'll pay

1483
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for them as I need them. I won't stash them

1484
01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>on my reserve roster.

1485
01:25:55.840 --> 01:26:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Richard, I think that's I think that's interesting and solid.

1486
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I also think I like your I like Travis Bizana.

1487
01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I think there's some intrigue there. I think he'll get

1488
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:08.479
<v Speaker 1>a shot. I don't know how good of a player

1489
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:11.039
<v Speaker 1>he is. You know my love for Rock Reggio. I

1490
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>think that's a that's a great draft and hold round

1491
01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:16.319
<v Speaker 1>forty eight pick kind of thing.

1492
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I really like, really like that.

1493
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Casey Schmidt is there's this multi position eligible I think

1494
01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:27.319
<v Speaker 1>he did okay last season. I think there could be

1495
01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:29.239
<v Speaker 1>something there as well with him.

1496
01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:33.520
<v Speaker 2>What about that Geloff? Remember remember him?

1497
01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:39.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Zach Geloff on my analysis scored very high. I'll

1498
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>just leave it at that. So maybe he can bounce back.

1499
01:26:43.520 --> 01:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>But health was clearly a problem last season. Yes, he's

1500
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty much free. He's pretty much free, and I think

1501
01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:52.800
<v Speaker 1>second base. As as I wrote to our Patreon members,

1502
01:26:53.199 --> 01:26:55.079
<v Speaker 1>if you don't you don't get the guy you're looking for.

1503
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:58.399
<v Speaker 1>One strategy is to get a fill in guy and

1504
01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:01.239
<v Speaker 1>then look for some of these guys that might come

1505
01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:05.279
<v Speaker 1>up and play second place, like JT. Weatherholt and some

1506
01:27:05.439 --> 01:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Travis Bazanas of the world who might get

1507
01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:11.479
<v Speaker 1>a shot there and and will come up in that position.

1508
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So that that's another strategy to play, because I do

1509
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:17.079
<v Speaker 1>think Bizana is going to get a shot. I think JT.

1510
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Weatherhold's going to be a shot. This depends on whether

1511
01:27:19.039 --> 01:27:22.079
<v Speaker 1>what Weatherhold actually plays or not. What position he plays.

1512
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was going to say, and he'll probably be

1513
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>listed at shortstop or second base.

1514
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>He'll be listed at shortstop. But unless something happens to

1515
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Mason Whin, I just think Nolan Forman. I mean, who

1516
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>knows what the Cardinals are doing anymore, But if Nolan Gorman,

1517
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I just think that JT. Weatherhold's going to be the

1518
01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I think the best player on that team. Once he

1519
01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:46.319
<v Speaker 1>comes up and gets a little established, I think that's

1520
01:27:46.359 --> 01:27:49.199
<v Speaker 1>the guy they build around. I think he comes up.

1521
01:27:49.199 --> 01:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he comes up erillly in second base or

1522
01:27:51.640 --> 01:27:53.720
<v Speaker 1>third base, but I think second base would be the

1523
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>spot that he plays at unless they get rid of Aeronata.

1524
01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know us, we are looking at thirty

1525
01:28:01.319 --> 01:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to forty and guys like Cody Clemens. I actually had

1526
01:28:04.079 --> 01:28:06.079
<v Speaker 2>him in my top thirty at one point in time.

1527
01:28:06.399 --> 01:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Then the Twins went and signed signed Josh Bell. Okay, well,

1528
01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:17.119
<v Speaker 2>adjustment time for Cody Clemens. Okay. Again, it's all about

1529
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:21.840
<v Speaker 2>playing time and opportunities. So again, there will be opportunities

1530
01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>in season. You just have to follow things very very closely.

1531
01:28:26.039 --> 01:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>But as far as stashing players, I don't see second

1532
01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>base being a priority.

1533
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 1>So your middle endfield is more than likely going to

1534
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>come from your shortstop.

1535
01:28:38.399 --> 01:28:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Either either that or I will end up in a

1536
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:47.119
<v Speaker 2>situation where I look at Holiday or Keisha, one of

1537
01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:52.239
<v Speaker 2>those two you know, in eighth to tenth round, somewhere

1538
01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:55.399
<v Speaker 2>in that range based on the current numbers, and then

1539
01:28:55.520 --> 01:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I might be happy with Orge bolanco Real late. Like,

1540
01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I haven't done shortstop yet, but I know it falls

1541
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>off rather drastically after you get up to about pick twenty.

1542
01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I am am aware of that. So my middle infielder

1543
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>could come from second base depending on how I approach

1544
01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>the position.

1545
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:20.359
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, I'm gonna make it harder for you because the

1546
01:29:20.439 --> 01:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>second mass so weak. Give me two guys, Timmy at

1547
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season coming in the next year,

1548
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:32.319
<v Speaker 1>are not top ten players? Two not one too. Oh

1549
01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.159
<v Speaker 1>and there's a right answer in here.

1550
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>By the way, f YI, Yes, I'm thinking the safe

1551
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go with the two easiest ones are

1552
01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Lowe and Bryson Stott. Obviously, I'm gonna go with

1553
01:29:54.640 --> 01:29:57.279
<v Speaker 2>Ozzie Lby's and ding.

1554
01:29:57.239 --> 01:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Ding Ding ding Ding right answer?

1555
01:29:59.359 --> 01:29:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And Brandon?

1556
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I would I have the pirates are hoping

1557
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you're wrong because they would have a big season, you know, Keishall,

1558
01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:11.199
<v Speaker 1>I like the upside there, But if he gets off

1559
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to a slow start in Minnesota, they you know, they

1560
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>might move on pretty quickly and demote him, so he

1561
01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:23.000
<v Speaker 1>could drop as well. It's another guy that does worry

1562
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:25.479
<v Speaker 1>me a little bit, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'd

1563
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:29.079
<v Speaker 1>be surprised if Jackson Holliday doesn't perform and can tell

1564
01:30:29.199 --> 01:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Marte and Jazz Chisholm aren't still there. But all these

1565
01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:36.600
<v Speaker 1>other guys, Timmy, even the great jose Al Tuve could.

1566
01:30:36.520 --> 01:30:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Find the wall.

1567
01:30:37.239 --> 01:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Might he finally might hit the wall and all these

1568
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:40.079
<v Speaker 1>guys could come fall in.

1569
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where can you rule out a fifteen fifty five

1570
01:30:45.640 --> 01:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>stolen based season from jose L too? No, I don't

1571
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:51.800
<v Speaker 2>think he can. I don't think it's gonna happen, but

1572
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:52.760
<v Speaker 2>you can't rule it out.

1573
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, agreed, give me give me, give me two

1574
01:30:56.680 --> 01:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>or three guys that you think might replace these guys,

1575
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and you can give me coup on the teams, But

1576
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>give me a couple of deeper guys.

1577
01:31:02.600 --> 01:31:07.479
<v Speaker 2>Too, Yeah, replacing.

1578
01:31:08.520 --> 01:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Mong Song. I'm assuming there's one of them, right.

1579
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, No, I want to give your finger or break.

1580
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:20.800
<v Speaker 2>You've zero zero enough already to day. When I look

1581
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:25.239
<v Speaker 2>at second base, the guy that really sort of intrigues

1582
01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:31.239
<v Speaker 2>me and is SoSE Cavallero, because if he moves into

1583
01:31:31.319 --> 01:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>shortstop to cover off okay, while Volpay is rehabbing, is

1584
01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:40.079
<v Speaker 2>there a chance that Volpai doesn't have a job to

1585
01:31:40.119 --> 01:31:44.479
<v Speaker 2>come back to if Cavallero plays well, I don't think

1586
01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:49.279
<v Speaker 2>that can entirely be ruled out. So the upside from Cavallera,

1587
01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>if he's a full time player, he could he could

1588
01:31:51.560 --> 01:31:55.159
<v Speaker 2>steal fifty sixty bases, okay for purposes of our game.

1589
01:31:55.760 --> 01:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>That would put him as a top ten second basement

1590
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:03.000
<v Speaker 2>So I like the potential there. Brett Baty, the upside

1591
01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:05.399
<v Speaker 2>potential he could move into the He could move into

1592
01:32:05.439 --> 01:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the top ten. He had eighteen home runs last year

1593
01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and pin Shy a four hundred of bats. If he

1594
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.960
<v Speaker 2>gets up twenty five thirty home runs, you know, ten

1595
01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:18.239
<v Speaker 2>to twelve stolen bases. That that is very very intriguing.

1596
01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:22.439
<v Speaker 2>Ice on Kim there's upside there being that he's a

1597
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Dodger and he he looks to have a job right now.

1598
01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:28.039
<v Speaker 2>We'll see how that shakes down. And then you get

1599
01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>down to the bottom, the bottom tier, and yeah, how

1600
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:38.279
<v Speaker 2>do you not like a guy like Max Anderson. You know,

1601
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:41.600
<v Speaker 2>for the second half, a guy like the Zana Tommy

1602
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Troy should get opportunities in Arizona. If Arizona moves on

1603
01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>from Marte, which is rumored, Trianto's is the same situation.

1604
01:32:49.880 --> 01:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>There could be opportunities there based on what happens with

1605
01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Nico Horner. So some of these guys towards the bottom

1606
01:32:56.319 --> 01:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>could carry a fair bit of value heading into next

1607
01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>year's drafts. What happens in the next two to three

1608
01:33:03.039 --> 01:33:03.600
<v Speaker 2>four months.

1609
01:33:05.159 --> 01:33:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I won't reveal the suck ause Patreon members are

1610
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.039
<v Speaker 1>paying for, but a lot of the I think there's

1611
01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a there could be much like we saw with Ketcher

1612
01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:17.119
<v Speaker 1>over the last couple of years and kind of changing

1613
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.159
<v Speaker 1>of the guard was second base, as a lot of

1614
01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:22.039
<v Speaker 1>these kids are coming up from the minor leagues that

1615
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:27.600
<v Speaker 1>started off being shortstops. In short JJ Weatherhold's a perfect example.

1616
01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>They've got a really quality short stuff, but they're gonna

1617
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>play somewhere. It's going to be second or third. And

1618
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to see that next wave of

1619
01:33:35.119 --> 01:33:37.199
<v Speaker 1>players coming up. So and I kind of like some

1620
01:33:37.319 --> 01:33:39.159
<v Speaker 1>of the names you have here as well.

1621
01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:43.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, guys like weather weather Holds, they'll

1622
01:33:43.439 --> 01:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>get mentioned in the next feven movie do shortstops and yeah, yeah,

1623
01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:53.239
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, there there are going to be middle infield

1624
01:33:53.359 --> 01:33:56.239
<v Speaker 2>opportunities for a lot of these young kids as the

1625
01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>aging veterans move on.

1626
01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:03.239
<v Speaker 1>So, knowing that I might be drafting Jose Cavallero and

1627
01:34:03.319 --> 01:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>he's top of mind, you've mentioned a couple of times,

1628
01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>until the Orioles, until the Yankees, and until Bobaschett is

1629
01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>off the board, I'm a little concerned about Jose Caballero.

1630
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much the Yankees liked him. I

1631
01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard. He's a he's a he feels like a

1632
01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like a super utility guy, right and I think, right now, yeah,

1633
01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>he would be perfect as a Yankee kind of doing that.

1634
01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>And are they going to want to go to war

1635
01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>with Cavalleros starting off the season and then going back

1636
01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>to Volpi, who was terrible last year, even though the

1637
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>data says he could be better. That's what I don't know.

1638
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.039
<v Speaker 1>If they're going to say we're the Mighty Yankees. We

1639
01:34:49.159 --> 01:34:52.399
<v Speaker 1>haven't signed anybody big. We just lost out on Amaya.

1640
01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:56.079
<v Speaker 1>We got to sign somebody. Let's overpay for Bobashett.

1641
01:34:56.439 --> 01:34:59.199
<v Speaker 2>That's what worries me so and and you know what,

1642
01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I think untill legitimate concern. If I was if I

1643
01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>was in your shoes, knowing who you've drafted so far

1644
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:10.199
<v Speaker 2>and looking at your team build. As much as Cavallero

1645
01:35:10.399 --> 01:35:15.119
<v Speaker 2>gives you the flexibility at multiple positions, I don't think

1646
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>he is the best player for you to be rostering,

1647
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:22.079
<v Speaker 2>simply because you've already covered off on what other than

1648
01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:25.039
<v Speaker 2>the flex you've covered off on what Cavalleira is going

1649
01:35:25.079 --> 01:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>to bring to the table, which is speed. So he

1650
01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.560
<v Speaker 2>might be the best player, but he might not be

1651
01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:35.119
<v Speaker 2>the best player for your team build. How's that? Yeah?

1652
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I just again, I definitely agree with that, But I

1653
01:35:38.439 --> 01:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>also just worry even because I've been thinking about Jose

1654
01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Cavallere for the last couple of rounds, and I just

1655
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I can't get a read on what the Yankees are doing.

1656
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>And again, they are the mighty Yankees, and they got

1657
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>to be pissed that they haven't been able to score

1658
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:57.960
<v Speaker 1>this offseason and they've tried well.

1659
01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>And let's face that the Jays knocked them off their

1660
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:04.560
<v Speaker 2>perch a little bit last year with that great season,

1661
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.239
<v Speaker 2>and the Jays have been incredibly aggressive this offseason. Uh yeah,

1662
01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I would think in New York right now, the media

1663
01:36:13.039 --> 01:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely crucifying them for their lack of activity and

1664
01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:20.079
<v Speaker 2>your concerns, Avoute, Hey, we'll just give them what we should,

1665
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>what we want to give them. I think they're I

1666
01:36:22.680 --> 01:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>think they're reasonable concerns.

1667
01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, And Boba Schat has been said, hey I'll

1668
01:36:26.760 --> 01:36:29.479
<v Speaker 1>move to second base and move to third base. But

1669
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the Yankees have a second basement. They have a really

1670
01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>good defensive third basement. They Gashism at second and Ryan

1671
01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:40.359
<v Speaker 1>McMahon at third. I mean shortstop. Is the obvious one

1672
01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:45.159
<v Speaker 1>that's calling our name? Is calling somebody's name. And then

1673
01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:47.359
<v Speaker 1>you sit there and think, Okay, are they really going

1674
01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to go to war with Jose Cavallero with a backup

1675
01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:53.119
<v Speaker 1>of Volpie And I just don't know I don't know.

1676
01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on a positive note, if you if you were

1677
01:36:56.720 --> 01:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>to look at Cavallero, I still think he's going to

1678
01:36:59.000 --> 01:37:02.319
<v Speaker 2>get forty plus stolen basis. But that's all he might

1679
01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>give you, just as a super sub relieving players, you know,

1680
01:37:07.159 --> 01:37:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and reduced it best. I think. I still think the

1681
01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:11.560
<v Speaker 2>speed is going to be there, But in your case,

1682
01:37:11.640 --> 01:37:14.199
<v Speaker 2>the speed is not all that relevant because you've covered

1683
01:37:14.239 --> 01:37:15.399
<v Speaker 2>off real good to that.

1684
01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But having said that, yet it's still like, do

1685
01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I want anyway enough about me, Timmy? Yes, great stuff,

1686
01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Let's take our final break, come back and wrap this

1687
01:37:25.800 --> 01:37:26.359
<v Speaker 1>puppy up.

1688
01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good.

1689
01:37:40.640 --> 01:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Give me a player or to Timmy that you're going to.

1690
01:37:42.680 --> 01:37:51.359
<v Speaker 2>Avoid, I'm going to avoid everybody except for Jackson Holiday

1691
01:37:51.600 --> 01:37:54.239
<v Speaker 2>and Luke Keishall in the top ten.

1692
01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I can't disagree with you, my friend. I can't I

1693
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:02.119
<v Speaker 1>disagree with you.

1694
01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to. I want to get some modes. I

1695
01:38:05.000 --> 01:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>want to make sure my oatfield's covered off if I'm

1696
01:38:07.960 --> 01:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>looking for power. Like as much as I like Chisholm

1697
01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Junior and Kato Marte and Bryce Terrang, I don't want

1698
01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:16.039
<v Speaker 2>to pay the price that one has to pay to

1699
01:38:16.119 --> 01:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>acquire any of those guys. So I'm going to be

1700
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:21.399
<v Speaker 2>looking further down the list. It's yeah, Hey, that was

1701
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the conclusion I made as well.

1702
01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I agree with it. They'd have to fall, would have

1703
01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:27.079
<v Speaker 1>to go to the third round, and then I would

1704
01:38:27.079 --> 01:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>be very interested. Can tell Marte. I think just still

1705
01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:33.119
<v Speaker 1>got the power. Solsa bar really hard. But it's out

1706
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the good outfielders are sitting in those first rounds and

1707
01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you got to make choices. And that's just this.

1708
01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, once we get to outfield, it becomes then you

1709
01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:43.880
<v Speaker 2>start looking, as you've done and I've done, you start

1710
01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:47.279
<v Speaker 2>looking at outfield. Do I want an outfield made up

1711
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:53.800
<v Speaker 2>of outfielders after the say pick thirty through to pick sixty,

1712
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Do I want to build my outfield with three players

1713
01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:59.720
<v Speaker 2>from that group and two from sixty to ninety trying

1714
01:38:59.720 --> 01:39:02.479
<v Speaker 2>to fill d H No, I don't. I want to

1715
01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>try and avoid that situation.

1716
01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:07.720
<v Speaker 1>When I made the decision to go Elie de la Cruz,

1717
01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>which to me was the right decision.

1718
01:39:09.720 --> 01:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I believe in that right.

1719
01:39:11.079 --> 01:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>But that then it was like all of those second

1720
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>basemen were off the board. It's like, I'm not going

1721
01:39:16.319 --> 01:39:20.439
<v Speaker 1>with chisholmber T Marte. I got to go with an outfielder, right,

1722
01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:23.039
<v Speaker 1>and that's just the position I win. And I got

1723
01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>to get another outfield soon after that. So you're you

1724
01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:27.359
<v Speaker 1>got two.

1725
01:39:27.239 --> 01:39:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Good ones, one with an immense upside potential and the

1726
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>other one has gone twenty twenty since I had a

1727
01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:37.760
<v Speaker 2>full head of hair. Okay, it can't get much. Yeah,

1728
01:39:37.800 --> 01:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a long time ago. Yeah, so no, I think I

1729
01:39:41.039 --> 01:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>think it worked out well. I like what you've done.

1730
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's uh, but that's just trying to help

1731
01:39:46.520 --> 01:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>everybody as we've gone through that, thinking of the board

1732
01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and looking at the board. Yeah, sure you could go

1733
01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:55.479
<v Speaker 1>Elie de la Cruz followed by Catel Marte and be yeah,

1734
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you got your middle, you got your middle all set up.

1735
01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.439
<v Speaker 1>You're going to be struggling to then with pitching, the

1736
01:40:01.560 --> 01:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>high end pitching and outfit. It's going to run out

1737
01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:04.439
<v Speaker 1>in a hurry.

1738
01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, and first first base is you know, hey, if

1739
01:40:09.439 --> 01:40:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't get outfield, you've got to find yourself a

1740
01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>good first basement. So then you take you've got your

1741
01:40:13.880 --> 01:40:17.800
<v Speaker 2>two middle infielders, you take a first baseman and and

1742
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:22.279
<v Speaker 2>you'll find your team construction, your team build. It gets

1743
01:40:22.359 --> 01:40:24.439
<v Speaker 2>real nasty. You're going to spend most of the draft

1744
01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to chase after things you need rather than acquiring

1745
01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:32.319
<v Speaker 2>commodities that will improve your lot in life. Does that

1746
01:40:32.399 --> 01:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>make sense?

1747
01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:35.479
<v Speaker 1>First base was a priority for me. I did not

1748
01:40:35.640 --> 01:40:39.000
<v Speaker 1>want to wait too late, and yeah, and get no

1749
01:40:39.159 --> 01:40:42.199
<v Speaker 1>batting average. That was what I was worried about, because then, well,

1750
01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I know I can I know I could get power

1751
01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>first base later on, but right, I just don't want

1752
01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to get a two twenty batting average and twenty five

1753
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:50.399
<v Speaker 1>five runs to get a guy that I think can

1754
01:40:50.479 --> 01:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>hit as well. And yeah, that's that was my That

1755
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>was my spot. And playing in a good lineup, which

1756
01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>is why Matt Olson flat junior. Yeah, all of those play.

1757
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:02.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh by the way, I was actually proud of my

1758
01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>my league mates in this league that Nick Kurtz went

1759
01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:11.359
<v Speaker 1>back of, he went back of the second round, so

1760
01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:19.079
<v Speaker 1>once again went in front of him. He went pick one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1761
01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:22.439
<v Speaker 1>eleventh pick in the second round.

1762
01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, no, I looking at some of those early

1763
01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:31.359
<v Speaker 2>numbers on Kurtz. Yeah he might deliver on them, but man,

1764
01:41:31.479 --> 01:41:32.439
<v Speaker 2>oh man, it's.

1765
01:41:34.840 --> 01:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It's tough to take. Tough to take Pete Alonzo after

1766
01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Nick Kurtz. You know, it's just like playing at Baltimore.

1767
01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Now just I mean Peter Anza. It's I think Nick

1768
01:41:47.079 --> 01:41:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Kurtz wants to become Pete Alonzo.

1769
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:52.840
<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, well exactly, Yeah. How many times has

1770
01:41:52.880 --> 01:41:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Alonzo bested forty home runs? A lot more than once?

1771
01:41:56.399 --> 01:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's like Nick, so, Nick Kurtz, Nick Kurts

1772
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:02.439
<v Speaker 1>it hit fifty five home runs or something crazy like that.

1773
01:42:02.880 --> 01:42:06.159
<v Speaker 1>But the risk associated with that versus pretty much being

1774
01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>a short of thirty five to forty with Pee Alonzo,

1775
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Sometimes you just have to take the

1776
01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:15.600
<v Speaker 1>more conservative play and then go for your go go

1777
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:18.039
<v Speaker 1>for the more risky stuff a little bit later. That's

1778
01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:19.199
<v Speaker 1>just how I like to play it.

1779
01:42:19.880 --> 01:42:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, sometimes your best pick is the one you

1780
01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:24.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't take when you didn't make the movie you didn't make,

1781
01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>because again, you've got to look at filling a lot

1782
01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:31.439
<v Speaker 2>of positions in the best possible way that you can

1783
01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and adjusting your picks accordingly. It Drafting a team's not easy,

1784
01:42:36.039 --> 01:42:40.399
<v Speaker 2>and whether you've got sixty seconds on the clock or

1785
01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>four hours, hey, one pick leads into another leads into another,

1786
01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:47.960
<v Speaker 2>and you start going down the wrong path and before

1787
01:42:48.039 --> 01:42:50.800
<v Speaker 2>you know it, there ain't no coming back. And that's

1788
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:53.600
<v Speaker 2>when it becomes a problem and it gets ugly quick.

1789
01:42:53.720 --> 01:42:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeh, I agree with you. I mean that's a wrap,

1790
01:42:55.880 --> 01:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>my friend. We will talk next week. Are we doing

1791
01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>third base next week?

1792
01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>I was going to do short stops simply, Yeah, the

1793
01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.760
<v Speaker 2>tie in between second and short the middle infield. Do

1794
01:43:08.840 --> 01:43:10.560
<v Speaker 2>it in one block and then do third base a

1795
01:43:10.600 --> 01:43:11.039
<v Speaker 2>week after.

1796
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:14.359
<v Speaker 1>If that works for you, I'm I'm easy either way.

1797
01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:16.640
<v Speaker 1>We got to do another prospect stuff, so we have

1798
01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that during during the week. I've got

1799
01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:24.800
<v Speaker 1>some personal stuff going on this week, very exciting, Timmy.

1800
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:27.039
<v Speaker 1>You know what I did Friday. You'll never guess what

1801
01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I did on Friday.

1802
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't tell me how to root canal?

1803
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:34.640
<v Speaker 1>No, that's I had. No I'm see good. But it

1804
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>was about the same kind of pain. I don't know

1805
01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Department of Motor Vehicle is like in Canada. But I

1806
01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>had to go to the DMV. We're moving our permitted

1807
01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>residence back up to New Jersey, and Laurie and I

1808
01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:51.399
<v Speaker 1>went and spent two wonderful hours at the DMV. Timmy,

1809
01:43:51.479 --> 01:43:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's you make an appointment. I'm like, okay, great, we

1810
01:43:54.680 --> 01:43:58.600
<v Speaker 1>made an appointment at ten thirty and right all you

1811
01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>do is you get into a long snaky line and

1812
01:44:02.079 --> 01:44:04.159
<v Speaker 1>then you get up about eleven o'clock to make it

1813
01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:05.479
<v Speaker 1>to the first thing, and you go, I have a

1814
01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:08.680
<v Speaker 1>ten thirty appointment, and the guy says, okay, go to

1815
01:44:08.800 --> 01:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>that line. It's another long snake and lego, what do

1816
01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:16.439
<v Speaker 1>you mean I have an appointment? He goes, yeah, you

1817
01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.239
<v Speaker 1>have an appointment, Thank you very much. Going to the line.

1818
01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:24.800
<v Speaker 2>That's like, yeah, at ten thirty, you're getting it. The line, okay,

1819
01:44:25.159 --> 01:44:28.680
<v Speaker 2>at ten forty five, you're stolen our our equivalent to

1820
01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>your DMV is exactly the same. You gotta remember a

1821
01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:33.319
<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago they suspended my license, right.

1822
01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah I remember that.

1823
01:44:34.800 --> 01:44:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Ye yes, yeah, okay, so yeah we're talking. Yeah, different countries,

1824
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.520
<v Speaker 2>U same modus operende pretty much. Yeah.

1825
01:44:43.960 --> 01:44:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow. When you know they took my picture, you know,

1826
01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>for the license, and you know they put it up

1827
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>on a big screen to say this is what timmy,

1828
01:44:53.800 --> 01:44:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm an ugly man. I have to admit that was horrible.

1829
01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:01.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean I just looked at it. Oh my god,

1830
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:04.159
<v Speaker 1>I look old. I look terrible.

1831
01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean just like, yeah, you can't smile, they tell

1832
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you not just look Mine looks like it should be

1833
01:45:12.079 --> 01:45:15.079
<v Speaker 2>up on the post office wall under the wall talking list.

1834
01:45:15.279 --> 01:45:16.199
<v Speaker 2>It's brutal.

1835
01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:18.439
<v Speaker 1>I got in the car with Laurie and I said,

1836
01:45:18.439 --> 01:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you man, I said, I hope

1837
01:45:20.279 --> 01:45:23.399
<v Speaker 1>you don't dump me. I have no shot again another no, no,

1838
01:45:23.720 --> 01:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I have no shot to get in the date after

1839
01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:26.560
<v Speaker 1>get at that picture.

1840
01:45:27.039 --> 01:45:27.319
<v Speaker 2>None.

1841
01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like, oh, my war And that woman

1842
01:45:29.800 --> 01:45:31.960
<v Speaker 1>looked at you, goes is that okay? I go no,

1843
01:45:32.279 --> 01:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>But I mean I'm afraid the next one who takes

1844
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:37.119
<v Speaker 1>them look exactly the same. And I don't want to

1845
01:45:37.199 --> 01:45:37.439
<v Speaker 1>know that.

1846
01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, And you know what happens if you say no,

1847
01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:43.640
<v Speaker 2>it's not good, okay, Then you go over into the

1848
01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:46.279
<v Speaker 2>know the picture is not good line okay, and you're

1849
01:45:46.319 --> 01:45:48.800
<v Speaker 2>another forty five minutes eight for else.

1850
01:45:49.319 --> 01:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was, it was. It was crazy. So but

1851
01:45:54.079 --> 01:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>we're all done. We got uh, we got our license

1852
01:45:56.840 --> 01:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>plates on the car and we got Tipperary Tipperary licenses.

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<v Speaker 1>The new one's coming the mail in like two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or something, so I don't know. So we're we're all good.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm hoping the pictures. I know in North Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>they turn them into black and white photos. I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that they turned these because then you don't look quite

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as the black and white as you do

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<v Speaker 1>in color.

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<v Speaker 2>So right, yeah, no, and hey they take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at it and yeah, it's it's black and white. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you expect? Right? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I encourage you all our younger listeners, enjoy your youth. Thinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Things really starting to go down the hill. It's just like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at my last I looked at my car.

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<v Speaker 1>Driver says, that's not so bad. That was like five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Like, and it's like, has it gone this

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<v Speaker 1>bad in five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, probably listening to so much of my advice

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<v Speaker 2>probably has did that process.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord have mercy. Oh my god, it's it's it's over anyway, Timmy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was good, good, good chatty, great show, great job

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<v Speaker 1>on the ranking, and we'll talk to you next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Be safe, be well, and looking forward to going through

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<v Speaker 2>Shortstop next weekend.