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Speaker 2: All right? Better late than never, right right, it's Coffee
Speaker 2: and Company fuel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 2: We're not like really late, in fact, this is usually
Speaker 2: in fact, we're a little early compared to where we
Speaker 2: are at times when we sometimes get the four o'clock
Speaker 2: and five o'clock hour started. But for the most part
Speaker 2: we've been pretty sharp at being on like right at
Speaker 2: three o'clock. But today the Bats, their game just concluded.
Speaker 2: It was actually on ten eighty, not seven ninety. But
Speaker 2: had we got a lot of people in here working
Speaker 2: hard on Derby week, so we didn't have an available studio,
Speaker 2: so I had to kill a little bit of time
Speaker 2: there to get this thing started, but we're here. We're
Speaker 2: ready to rock and roll myself, Nick Coffee, Austin Montgomery
Speaker 2: alongside Derby Week continuing, and I mean I felt really
Speaker 2: bad because I like to have good energy before the show.
Speaker 2: But I really made Austin sad when I told him
Speaker 2: the forecast for Saturday. I mean, you didn't take it
Speaker 2: well mind me? Yeah, I mean it's not like I
Speaker 2: predicted it, because you know, trust me as someone who
Speaker 2: rarely gets a chance to be and I told you so. Guy,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take advantage of chances when I can
Speaker 2: say I told you so. But this wouldn't be genuine
Speaker 2: because I didn't predict this. I just said I hope
Speaker 2: it doesn't do what it's actually doing, which is that
Speaker 2: if we go back a couple of days. I remember,
Speaker 2: I think it was either Monday or Tuesday. It was
Speaker 2: Monday actually, because that was when we started looking at
Speaker 2: the forecast. It was like, Okay, we look pretty good
Speaker 2: for Oaks and Dirty, but man, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday not
Speaker 2: so much. And what what has happened is that it
Speaker 2: just delayed, it held off, and now it's going to
Speaker 2: be seemingly awful for Oaks and Derby I mean, I
Speaker 2: know that they're often wrong, and I'm really hoping they
Speaker 2: wrong this time. But I mean, the current forecast and
Speaker 2: this is this is you know, I'm sure maybe Mark
Speaker 2: with the c Weinberg on WDRB, maybe he's got something
Speaker 2: different he's seeing. Maybe you know, maybe Jay Cardosi's got
Speaker 2: something that he's looking at that nobody else has noticed.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can find some real positivity, some optimism about
Speaker 2: weather on Derby Day. But what it shows me here
Speaker 2: on this this weather app on my iPhone is a
Speaker 2: ninety five percent chance of rain on Saturday. In fact,
Speaker 2: it now says one hundred percent chance. It was ninety
Speaker 2: five Austin, whatever you and I were talking about twenty
Speaker 2: minutes ago. Now we're up to one hundred percent. Which
Speaker 2: can they do that? Though, like I feel like seeing
Speaker 2: a hundred percent chance of any weather is it is
Speaker 2: impossible because you know, one, you can't really predict the future.
Speaker 2: And if you could, then you know, we wouldn't really
Speaker 2: need mediuroologists. They would just you know, they would just
Speaker 2: be able to tell us what's going to happen because
Speaker 2: they can predict the future. So if you're going to
Speaker 2: say it's one hundred percent chance of something. I would
Speaker 2: hope that that means it's happening as we speak. But
Speaker 2: we're still a couple of days away. So here, I
Speaker 2: am trying to re route something in my brain to
Speaker 2: tell me that they're going to be wrong, because you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. But on Saturday, here's the chances
Speaker 2: of precipitation you have. Let me see here. Okay, I
Speaker 2: thought maybe I was in the wrong city. I'm not
Speaker 2: so on Saturday. From noon, I'm sorry, from midnight, you know,
Speaker 2: a midnight on Saturday, meaning Friday night, essentially up until
Speaker 2: six pm on Saturday, there's there's no less than a
Speaker 2: forty percent chance of rain. It's up to sixty in
Speaker 2: certain spots. So here's what we know it's gonna rain.
Speaker 2: I just hope that you know it doesn't rain as
Speaker 2: much as they're expecting, and that you know, maybe it
Speaker 2: rains early and then it doesn't rain in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: or maybe it holds off and we get hit late
Speaker 2: at night. But yeah, if you're preparing to go to
Speaker 2: Derby or really just enjoy Derby at a Derby party,
Speaker 2: or I mean, if the weather is what it looks
Speaker 2: like right now, I'm not really sure anybody would enjoy
Speaker 2: that under any circumstance, even if it wasn't Derby Day.
Speaker 2: But it would be just it would be just our
Speaker 2: luck if we just get, you know, hit with all
Speaker 2: this rain we were supposed to get throughout the week.
Speaker 2: It all just happens to dump on us on Oaks
Speaker 2: Day and on Derby Day. But that's that's what it's
Speaker 2: looking like. So not good. In fact, I haven't other
Speaker 2: than just looking at my phone, I haven't haven't been
Speaker 2: listening to what the local crews have been discussing, meaning
Speaker 2: those that you know are meteorologists for our news networks
Speaker 2: here in town, because obviously they they're aware that they're
Speaker 2: I mean, their job is to tell us what's going
Speaker 2: on in the Kentuckian area. And we happen to be
Speaker 2: hosting one of the biggest sporting events of the of
Speaker 2: the year in a couple of days. So maybe I'll
Speaker 2: look around to see if maybe I can find somebody
Speaker 2: that's going to tell me that it's gonna be okay,
Speaker 2: and don't worry about it, Nick, It'll be all right,
Speaker 2: It'll it'll work out. I want to answers Dan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, mother Nature's been bending us over all year, bro,
Speaker 2: I mean twenty twenty five. She's she's I don't know
Speaker 2: what she's doing, but she's humbling us. She's letting us
Speaker 2: know she's calling the shots, and we're really at her
Speaker 2: mercy because I mean, tell you what, Beyonce, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's been it's been brutal this year. I mean we
Speaker 2: are we have now concluded four months of the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five year, which just saying this out loud is crazy.
Speaker 2: We are now one third of the way through twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. Think about that, Like it just feels like
Speaker 2: it just started, right, I mean we are four months
Speaker 2: into this new year, which is not a new I
Speaker 2: mean we're well into the new year, so it's going
Speaker 2: back quickly. Yeah. So we've had, I feel like in
Speaker 2: the four months of twenty twenty five, I mean really
Speaker 2: really unusually bad weather, right, I mean the winter was
Speaker 2: a lot more brutal than we're used to, certainly more
Speaker 2: so than it's been in a long long time. And
Speaker 2: the wind, rain, flooding, tornadoes, and all we ask is
Speaker 2: maybe you make it up to us on Derby Day,
Speaker 2: Mother Nature, And she's she's relentless, isn't she just just
Speaker 2: just pounding us, just just giving us a beating. What
Speaker 2: do we do? I don't know what we do, but
Speaker 2: all we can do is, you know, pray that every
Speaker 2: year a Derby. That's true. Yeah, it's worked out the light.
Speaker 4: It wasn't rainy last year. Was it the year before?
Speaker 4: I think it rained after the derby? Yes, that sounds
Speaker 4: about right. I mean we've just stood in line.
Speaker 2: We've had We've had derbies recently that I can recall
Speaker 2: where we did not get rain. But it like the
Speaker 2: last few four or five derbies I can remember being
Speaker 2: there as part of our coverage. It was gloomy, which
Speaker 2: I'll take that over rain obviously. I mean, beggars can't
Speaker 2: be choosers. But like, I can't remember the last time
Speaker 2: I was working Derby and it was sunny and beautiful outside.
Speaker 2: In fact, the first two I believe were like that,
Speaker 2: and then I just assumed that it's always going to
Speaker 2: be great. And then also, man, this sucked. But when
Speaker 2: we did Derby, when nobody could go right, like when
Speaker 2: we did it in like September, right, yeah, twenty twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we did it in September of twenty twenty, and like
Speaker 2: we parked on like out it. We parked in the
Speaker 2: infield because like you didn't have many I mean, the
Speaker 2: only people that could be there at the event were
Speaker 2: those that were like part of the families of the
Speaker 2: the owners of the horses and the race. And then
Speaker 2: of course we were there for media coverage, and it
Speaker 2: was pretty light that year as far as coverage, but
Speaker 2: we still we were still there, and I remember making
Speaker 2: the walk in and it was just so surreal because
Speaker 2: you know, you know, the derby's about to take place,
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm driving right up to like near
Speaker 2: where the thing starts, because that's how they did media
Speaker 2: parking because again and there's there's nobody there compared to
Speaker 2: what they usually have. And I remember making the walk
Speaker 2: in and you know, there's people, but not a crowd,
Speaker 2: like you know, it's not like it's a ghost town,
Speaker 2: but like it's it's just really these packs of people,
Speaker 2: right like twenty thirty people that are with this horse
Speaker 2: in some former fashion and then I mean that's really
Speaker 2: what it was. And then some workers. But I remember
Speaker 2: thinking like maybe it's because you know, it's happening in
Speaker 2: September and not in in May, but man, this would
Speaker 2: be the perfect day for this for this derby, but
Speaker 2: you know, COVID got in the way. So yeah, anyways,
Speaker 2: a lot to get into as we as we continue
Speaker 2: to move forward here during derby week. I will say
Speaker 2: last night the NBA playoffs got more of my attention
Speaker 2: than they typically do. And I trust me, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna spend a lot of time talking about like Lebron
Speaker 2: James and his future with the Lakers, because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think that will be interesting, and you know,
Speaker 2: Lebron's gonna be back with the Lakers. But last night,
Speaker 2: of course he's doing the whole well, you know, I
Speaker 2: have to talk to my family. I'm not really sure
Speaker 2: about what I'm gonna do. We know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: But I think Lebron at this stage, to see that
Speaker 2: he's two and twelve in the last three series that
Speaker 2: he's been in the playoffs, I mean, like he can
Speaker 2: be great, but like he can't carry a team anymore.
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure it's because he's fallen off. Like
Speaker 2: he's still an insanely talented player that at any moment
Speaker 2: can just remind you that he's one of the best ever.
Speaker 2: And I mean he'll have a game randomly and you'll say, yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought this guy, that guy was the best player
Speaker 2: in the NBA, but it might still be him just
Speaker 2: because he's so he's just different. But the rest of
Speaker 2: the NBA feel like has you know, has gotten better
Speaker 2: to where like Lebron can now go out there and
Speaker 2: put a team on like Lebron has throughout his career
Speaker 2: put teams on his back when he's had to or
Speaker 2: just done it because he's that great and they've fallen short.
Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, in the finals or it's
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference finals, now Lebron can be great and really
Speaker 2: put up the same kind of numbers that he's always
Speaker 2: put up, and they could be mid like not even good.
Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure the Lakers were very good
Speaker 2: at all this year. So the Luca trade clearly, I
Speaker 2: think the Lakers still feel like they won that. But
Speaker 2: you did start to see in this series, specifically not
Speaker 2: necessarily reasons to defend Nico Harrison, but things that he
Speaker 2: you know, was was I guess not a fan of
Speaker 2: when it comes to Luca, so much so that he
Speaker 2: was willing to part with a guy who had just
Speaker 2: taken him to the finals. You know, you see some
Speaker 2: of that play out, like the number. And we'll get
Speaker 2: into this later because I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: act like I'm going to lead with the NBA. But
Speaker 2: there's some numbers from Luca's career in the last couple
Speaker 2: of years compared to his first couple of years that
Speaker 2: would make you believe that he's aging a lot quicker
Speaker 2: than most do in the NBA. And maybe maybe one
Speaker 2: day Nico Harrison will be able to have the last laugh.
Speaker 2: I just hard for me to see, you know, to
Speaker 2: see to see that actually playing out, because it's one
Speaker 2: thing to give up Luca and you know, for a
Speaker 2: bunch of future picks and a star player, but like
Speaker 2: they just didn't get enough. So anyways, the playoffs at
Speaker 2: this point, I will say they've been more interesting than
Speaker 2: I than I anticipated. Also, we've got Mark Pope and
Speaker 2: Rick Bettino facing off against each other next season. I
Speaker 2: know Rick has talked about, In fact, Rick has both
Speaker 2: Louisville and Kentucky talked about games that really from an
Speaker 2: I understand there was nothing really in the works like
Speaker 2: it had been mentioned. Nobody said no, but Rick will
Speaker 2: do what Rick does and put it out there. And
Speaker 2: like I guess put pressure on Kentucky or Louisville to
Speaker 2: actually schedule the games, because you know, Louisville and Kentucky,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Kentucky and Saint John's, they're gonna play each
Speaker 2: other next year, but it's gonna be in the CBS
Speaker 2: Sports Classic, not in any he like, it wasn't In fact,
Speaker 2: it wasn't scheduled. Saint John's is taking the place of
Speaker 2: UCLA in the CBS Sports Classic. And obviously Rick had
Speaker 2: mentioned a few weeks ago he wants to play Louisville
Speaker 2: and they're working on it and bringing Louisville to the
Speaker 2: Garden next year to play his Saint John's team, and
Speaker 2: it'll be part of it. That'll be the first game
Speaker 2: in a you know, multi game series multi years. And
Speaker 2: I understand that. I don't want to say he lied,
Speaker 2: but like he extremely exaggerated sort of where that was
Speaker 2: in the process. But that's just kind of what Rick does.
Speaker 2: Rick just says things, and you know, has a great
Speaker 2: way of speaking it into existence or at least, you know,
Speaker 2: convincing people. I mean, what was it he said a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago that like everybody just started talking about
Speaker 2: and had it been anybody else that brought it up,
Speaker 2: Nobody would talk about it because it's ridiculous and it
Speaker 2: wouldn't happen.
Speaker 4: It was him liking the the Yankees and the Mets that.
Speaker 2: That that is, That was not even the one I
Speaker 2: was thinking. But you've given me another good example, right,
Speaker 2: like because in New York you can't do that, Like
Speaker 2: imagine trying to justify you grew up in New York.
Speaker 2: You love New York and you like the Net, Mets
Speaker 2: and the Yankees, Like come on now, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I know you want to appeal to both New York
Speaker 2: sides there, but like they're gonna all think you're a
Speaker 2: fraud when you say that. But Rick says it and
Speaker 2: they don't think it as much because he's gifted when
Speaker 2: it comes to that kind of stuff. Here's what it is.
Speaker 2: He mentioned that the ACC and the Big East should
Speaker 2: should merge. Remember that he threw it and like that
Speaker 2: would never happen, and the ACC has no interest in that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the Big East doesn't either. But yet because
Speaker 2: it's Rick, it got you know, he gets. If any
Speaker 2: other coach would have said that, it probably would have
Speaker 2: been laughed at, or maybe just not even noticed because
Speaker 2: you know it's it's not it's not realistic. But you know,
Speaker 2: Rick has has found his way onto the schedule of
Speaker 2: Mark Pope, And I mean, I don't think that'll be
Speaker 2: awkward for Kentucky fans. But again, I'm not a Kentucky fan,
Speaker 2: so I can't I can't speak for them, but like
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to beat Rix Brainsen, right, I would
Speaker 2: assume so. And also, let's be real, if Mark Pope
Speaker 2: loses and Kentucky just looks as if in year two
Speaker 2: of Mark Pope and year three of Rick at Saint
Speaker 2: John's that like Rick is in a much better spot.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Kentucky fans will turn on Pope,
Speaker 2: but I guess the question would be this, and you
Speaker 2: won't know, none of none of the fans will know
Speaker 2: until it happens. But like you, you like Rick now right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you'll find some that hate him,
Speaker 2: and I get it because you know, he coached Louislle
Speaker 2: for a long time and he flipped you off, and
Speaker 2: you know, I get it. But Pope being back gave
Speaker 2: Rick the extension to kind of crawl back to BBN
Speaker 2: in his own way to have that moment where he
Speaker 2: gets honored on on Big Blue Madness Night, And you know,
Speaker 2: it clearly was something that not any of us ever
Speaker 2: saw happening, but we probably should have expected it, just
Speaker 2: given the fact that he coached at Kentucky won a
Speaker 2: national championship, and he never hid the fact that he
Speaker 2: loved that job more than any he had. And he
Speaker 2: never said this directly, but I mean he kind of
Speaker 2: said it without saying it many times that he knows
Speaker 2: where he would be if he never left, right, So
Speaker 2: it's hard for us to even think about that. Whenever
Speaker 2: Calipari's in Lexington, Rick's at Louisville, and man, the rivalry
Speaker 2: is at a level it'll never be at again because
Speaker 2: there's just so much animosity and hatred. There's a personal
Speaker 2: rivalry between those two guys to where you just never
Speaker 2: think there's a scenario Rick. I mean, you know, Rick
Speaker 2: would ever come to Lexington unless he's forced to. So
Speaker 2: they had that moment last year, and I think it's
Speaker 2: healthy for their fan base. So I guess what I
Speaker 2: was going to say, as far as you won't know
Speaker 2: until you get there, if you lose to anybody, you're
Speaker 2: gonna be upset, right, Like if you lose to any
Speaker 2: team as a fan base, nobody wants to lose, right.
Speaker 2: But I think before they mended things, before they made
Speaker 2: up right and Rick came back and you know, talked
Speaker 2: about how great Lexington was and just gassing up Mark Pope,
Speaker 2: I'd feel like, had there not been that moment and
Speaker 2: Rick beat you, it would feel worse than just any loss,
Speaker 2: because man, that's a guy we used to make fun
Speaker 2: of and we you know, he's the enemy, and now
Speaker 2: here he is at a new school and we got
Speaker 2: a new coach and he beat us. But now that
Speaker 2: he's you know, at least been forgiven by seemingly a
Speaker 2: lot of their fans, maybe if he beats you, it's
Speaker 2: not as it's not like, you know, damn it, we
Speaker 2: lost to Rick. It's like, well, you know, he was
Speaker 2: a great coach when we had him too, and you
Speaker 2: know maybe one day, maybe one day Mark Pope will
Speaker 2: be able to get past is the guy he learned from.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I feel like, put it this way,
Speaker 2: Cali Perry, that loss last year, like that sucked for
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans. It really didn't change a whole lot. They
Speaker 2: still had a good season, got a good seed, made
Speaker 2: it to the second weekend, but like that was a
Speaker 2: game that fans just did not want to lose. Players
Speaker 2: probably didn't care. I think they understood knew that like
Speaker 2: that was that was there was. That was a special
Speaker 2: game for the fans. Caliperry clearly, you know, wanted to
Speaker 2: go in there and remind them of what they maybe
Speaker 2: in his eyes, took for granted. But you know now
Speaker 2: that Rick has been has been viewed as like the
Speaker 2: good guy. Like I think there's maybe I'm way off here.
Speaker 2: I think some Kentucky fans are now like pro Rick
Speaker 2: anti cal and I in a way I kind of
Speaker 2: get it. But just imagine saying that like five six
Speaker 2: years ago, right, Austin, you have some friends that are
Speaker 2: Kentucky fans. Have they have you gotten any feel for
Speaker 2: like are they just kind of like they don't hate
Speaker 2: Rick now or do they like like him? Or are
Speaker 2: they still the hell with him? They're doing the thing.
Speaker 2: I never hated him. He was he well he I mean,
Speaker 2: he led us to a championship. He's Rick Patina. He
Speaker 2: just he just joined Louisville. We never hated him, Yeah
Speaker 2: you did? Yeah, Oh, you hated him big time, you
Speaker 2: made fun of him. I mean, like, and I have
Speaker 2: no problem saying this to Matt if he was here.
Speaker 2: Matt was able to utilize Rick Pattino as the enemy,
Speaker 2: being the Louisville's coach and Rick Patino, you know, the
Speaker 2: Katina pal Karen Siffer stuff, like those kind of things
Speaker 2: that they covered. I mean that that helped the growth
Speaker 2: of KSR substantially. Not to say it wouldn't be super
Speaker 2: successful without that kind of stuff, but like clearly like
Speaker 2: it was. I think the Kentucky fan average personality was
Speaker 2: all you know, most people had. There was an element
Speaker 2: of like making fun of Rick and Louisville, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, And I don't it's not it's a rivalry,
Speaker 2: but like him being your former coach, and then man,
Speaker 2: did he give you guys a lot of ammunition to
Speaker 2: make fun of him. And then we defended him, and
Speaker 2: you know, had to live with the fact that we
Speaker 2: loved the coach who you know, had the program and
Speaker 2: some really embarrassing scandals, and then to see him go
Speaker 2: back to Lexington again. It all made sense and we
Speaker 2: should have expected it. But man, that's why I think
Speaker 2: some Louisville fans were like, all right, the hell with
Speaker 2: this guy. We defended you man when you were having
Speaker 2: intercourse on a table at a restaurant in town. We
Speaker 2: wanted you to We wanted you to keep your job.
Speaker 2: We had, you know, we had a prostitute scandal, and
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think Rick specifically was a factor
Speaker 2: in that, but you know, we'll never know. I'm sure
Speaker 2: people don't too agree with that. Yeah, Katina's ladies, Yeah,
Speaker 2: ladies of the night, Like we're in the battlefield, just
Speaker 2: you know, already wounded, already accepting that we're you know,
Speaker 2: we're pretty defeated, but we were still fighting for you Rick.
Speaker 2: Imagine fighting for your coach for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And then he goes back to the rival and you know,
Speaker 2: talks up them, and I mean, did he make any
Speaker 2: He didn't really have any. He didn't take a shot
Speaker 2: at Louisville, but he did. He did lie and say
Speaker 2: that he had never been like invited back, which I
Speaker 2: loved how much that bothered former players. Not to say
Speaker 2: that I want there to be animosity, but like they
Speaker 2: checked him on that, and I was happy to hear
Speaker 2: that because he did his lit I mean, he was
Speaker 2: invited to come back when they honored the twenty thirteen
Speaker 2: championship team for their ten year reunion and chose not to.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and he could have, And I
Speaker 2: get it if it's still too raw for him to
Speaker 2: where he's just not ready for that. But I mean,
Speaker 2: don't lie about it, like, don't act like Louisville's out
Speaker 2: here trying to make you like a bad guy, because
Speaker 2: they haven't. So anyways, Patia, they did like a FaceTime
Speaker 2: call Pope and Rick did, and we'll let you guys
Speaker 2: hear a little little bit of sound from that. I mean,
Speaker 2: it'll be a big matchup, no doubt. And I just
Speaker 2: can't tell at this point. Are Kentucky fans looking at
Speaker 2: this as we better not lose that one because it's Rick,
Speaker 2: or is it, you know, just another game. I doubt
Speaker 2: that's the case, but I could be wrong. All Right,
Speaker 2: some of the things we will get into throughout the
Speaker 2: throughout the afternoon today, we'll continue to talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: everything that comes with Derby, meaning you know, Derby season.
Speaker 2: We've done that. I feel pretty good about what we've
Speaker 2: been able to do as far as giving you you know,
Speaker 2: you could tell we're in the derby season derby spirit,
Speaker 2: but it's just you don't talk a lot of horse racing.
Speaker 2: But today I'm gonna finally, finally let you guys hear
Speaker 2: about each of the horses from our own Jody Dimmling.
Speaker 2: I mean, We're not going to get to them all today,
Speaker 2: but Jody Dimling has done a great job of putting together,
Speaker 2: I think a profile for each and every horse in
Speaker 2: the derby that'll tell you a little bit about how
Speaker 2: they ended up being able to compete in the derby,
Speaker 2: a little bit about the owner, a little bit about
Speaker 2: the trainer, that kind of stuff. And I've had people
Speaker 2: over the years tell us that when they hear these
Speaker 2: on the station, of course news Radio eight for Whas,
Speaker 2: that Jody's helped them kind of determine who they want
Speaker 2: to bet on. So I've neglected that and it's a
Speaker 2: great resource that we have, so I'm going to certainly
Speaker 2: utilize it throughout the day today, So stick with us.
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Speaker 2: I know I said this yesterday, but it needs to
Speaker 2: be said once again today because here we are another
Speaker 2: day and more weird layers to the Bill Belichick Jordan
Speaker 2: Hudson's situation. I mean, have you heard the latest Austin. No,
Speaker 2: So when things just don't make sense, there's usually something
Speaker 2: that would make sense of it. And that was sort
Speaker 2: of what I'm sure many others like myself have been doing.
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Speaker 2: she's young, she's getting some shine, some fame from this.
Speaker 2: I don't even think she's all that hot as everyone else.
Speaker 2: All Right, Okay, okay, because I'm with you, like again,
Speaker 2: like she's not bad by any means.
Speaker 4: But I hate to sound degrading when I say hot,
Speaker 4: but no, no, what you mean though, Like I mean.
Speaker 2: It, Actually I feel like if she was And yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sound like such a pig here, but I mean, look,
Speaker 2: she's attractive and she's twenty four years old. He's seventy three.
Speaker 2: I mean that alone is really not debatable. I guess
Speaker 2: everybody's opinion on what's attractive and what's not can be different.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is that, like she's pretty, you know,
Speaker 2: she's not an IG model, if that makes sense, right, Like,
Speaker 2: she's not, I mean, to my knowledge, she's not. You know,
Speaker 2: thirst trick happen in you know, social media year round
Speaker 2: because she's just you know again, and not to say
Speaker 2: she couldn't do that and have success if she wanted to,
Speaker 2: but she's she didn't have some public life of being
Speaker 2: like you know, I think when I say an IG model,
Speaker 2: people know what I'm talking about. But anyways, she she's
Speaker 2: she is benefiting from this for what we guessed fame,
Speaker 2: some notoriety, but really like that that would really have
Speaker 2: to be it unless you know she's using him for
Speaker 2: his money. That's what you know. There was really no
Speaker 2: reporting of that, and there's really no way to prove
Speaker 2: it at this point. But that's that's the newest evidence. Now.
Speaker 2: As far as him, you ask, Okay, what is he
Speaker 2: getting out of this? And I was listening to Coward
Speaker 2: earlier today and he he kind of said what I
Speaker 2: had mentioned yesterday. And I think it's probably the belief
Speaker 2: of a lot of people that other than just you know,
Speaker 2: enjoying the company of a twenty four year old woman
Speaker 2: when you're seventy three, like he looks more I guess
Speaker 2: cool to the younger crowd, and it's showing that he's not.
Speaker 2: He's not he's not dead yet, and I mean that,
Speaker 2: you know, his figure speech more so than actually dying.
Speaker 2: But you know, he's hip, he's cool. She's helping him
Speaker 2: have a social media presence that like he'd never had before,
Speaker 2: and he looks you know, more relatable than he ever has.
Speaker 2: But like, those aren't things that you would just assume
Speaker 2: the two parties here would merge together to mutually benefit
Speaker 2: just from that. And I still don't know what he's
Speaker 2: getting out of it other than what we mentioned, Like
Speaker 2: maybe he really just is into her, like he loves her,
Speaker 2: or maybe he's just like all right, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't have a whole lot of time left here at
Speaker 2: seventy three, so I now I'm gonna utilize my fame
Speaker 2: and my fortune and just you know, I'm only going
Speaker 2: to hook up and date women that are in their twenties.
Speaker 2: Like again, you know that's not unheard of, but this
Speaker 2: is Bill Belichick. This is not you know, just some
Speaker 2: random horny old dude. So those who claim this could
Speaker 2: be elder abuse, or maybe they mention it tongue in cheek.
Speaker 2: I still don't think that it's a serious situation to
Speaker 2: where like she's quite literally abusing this man and he
Speaker 2: doesn't know, Like he doesn't know it because he's just
Speaker 2: too old and senile. But we now know more about her.
Speaker 2: So since she's been linked to Bill Belichick, she has
Speaker 2: purchased a ton of real estate properties, which you know,
Speaker 2: she didn't have any of that until she was with him.
Speaker 2: No that, so you know, like that would make it
Speaker 2: make more sense as to why she would want to
Speaker 2: make this a because it's not just like, oh yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. He was seen out on a date with
Speaker 2: a young model or something. They're an item and they
Speaker 2: want that to be out there. And for him, again,
Speaker 2: I'm still guessing that he's thinking the benefit is that
Speaker 2: he looks cool and you know, he's showing a different
Speaker 2: side of him that nobody saw when he was the old, grouchy,
Speaker 2: grumpy grandpa in New England. Whereas for her, it's got
Speaker 2: to be money. So again, she's now she now has
Speaker 2: has obtained all these real estate properties and I'll try
Speaker 2: to see if I can pull up the number, but
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was pretty substantial as far
Speaker 2: as the value, and you know, I would doubt that
Speaker 2: she has the financial means to where she can go
Speaker 2: pay this without his assistance. And the reason I'm making
Speaker 2: that assumption it's not just because she's you know, she
Speaker 2: wasn't famous before she started dating him and that she's
Speaker 2: twenty four. But the family she comes from has had
Speaker 2: some real money problems. So she was raised in Hancock, Maine,
Speaker 2: and her parents ran a fishing business that at one
Speaker 2: point was was successful but then it went bankrupt. So
Speaker 2: like they ran out of money, they went bankrupt. Okay,
Speaker 2: So then this is going to be something that you
Speaker 2: will think I'm making up, but I'm not. I mean,
Speaker 2: this has been, this is this is, this is out
Speaker 2: there from TMZ of TMZ Sports. I mean the New
Speaker 2: York Post has a write up on it. And her
Speaker 2: mother now, her mother eventually moved to Provincetown on Cape
Speaker 2: Cod and she manages a sex toy shop in Museum Nice.
Speaker 2: So like that's like the maybe Bill's trying to use
Speaker 2: her to get through her mom could be. But like
Speaker 2: think about this, like for the for the worry that
Speaker 2: like her family might just be because let's be real,
Speaker 2: like when people see Bill Belichick in his seventies with
Speaker 2: a girl in her twenties. Like, if I was the
Speaker 2: mom or dad, I would be like, man, people are
Speaker 2: going to sexualize my daughter now because they're going to
Speaker 2: obviously think about how weird it would be to you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, this is not a normal thing. Right, he's
Speaker 2: old enough to be her grandpa. But like maybe they're
Speaker 2: not that bothered by because, you know, instead of being
Speaker 2: prudes and just you know, real protective. I mean, mom's
Speaker 2: business is a sex shop, a sex toy shop. Not
Speaker 2: a sex shop where you have sex, but a sex
Speaker 2: toy shop and museum which didn't know there was a
Speaker 2: I mean again, when it comes to the whole Belichick situation,
Speaker 2: say these things out loud with me, Right, Bill Belichick
Speaker 2: two years ago, Imagine saying he'd be in college coaching
Speaker 2: North Carolina. Imagine saying that he would be dating a
Speaker 2: twenty four year old woman when he's seventy three. You
Speaker 2: wouldn't believe it. Here's the new layer, Bill Belichick. The
Speaker 2: girl he's dating who's twenty four and he's seventy three.
Speaker 2: Her mother owns a sex toy shop and museum. Like,
Speaker 2: you can't make this stuff up. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what else could come from this as far as layers,
Speaker 2: as far as just making it more weird, but I
Speaker 2: do think now like it's a money thing, gotta be right.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy, you know, he doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 2: just have like money fresh off of an NFL contract.
Speaker 2: The guy has generational wealth. I mean, he's I mean,
Speaker 2: think about his accomplishment, think about what he's I mean,
Speaker 2: the guy has money that. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: where he'd rank as far as the highest paid guys,
Speaker 2: you know, ever in the NFL, as far as longevity,
Speaker 2: but you know, it wouldn't shock me if he's up there,
Speaker 2: because again, we're talking about a guy who coached for
Speaker 2: a long long time, and for a long long time
Speaker 2: he was really really successful. So you got a wonder though,
Speaker 2: at some point, does she you know, does she call
Speaker 2: it off? Because although she doesn't seem to care about
Speaker 2: people not really caring for her, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: she's kind of playing into that. But yeah, here's here's
Speaker 2: the specifics about her. Yeah, this is let's see, I'm
Speaker 2: reading directly from the New York Post. Bill Belichick's spry girlfriend,
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson, has amassed in New England real estate portfolio
Speaker 2: worth about eight million dollars, all within the months of
Speaker 2: the fisherman's daughter meeting seventy three year old ex Patriots coach,
Speaker 2: according to property records, So at twenty four, she bought
Speaker 2: three multi family homes across the Boston area for about
Speaker 2: seven and a half million, inching millions of dollars in
Speaker 2: mortgage agreements within days. That was according to documents reviewed
Speaker 2: by realtor dot com. Two months earlier, she dropped six
Speaker 2: hundred and ten dollars on a cottage in the scene
Speaker 2: at Cape Cod town of Harwich, which she listed as
Speaker 2: her home address on the mortgage. Those on those mortgage documents.
Speaker 2: So these big time purchases all came right around the
Speaker 2: time that she, you know, was in fact, if there
Speaker 2: these two apparently met when she was twenty in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, So these purchases happened just a little bit
Speaker 2: before they were publicly an item. But clearly they had
Speaker 2: already been linked before it became like you know, a thing,
Speaker 2: and I don't know why, But like when she's seventy,
Speaker 2: when he's seventy one and she's twenty, I don't know
Speaker 2: why that sounds so much worse than twenty four and
Speaker 2: seventy three. Yes, it sounds much, but it sounds just
Speaker 2: as bad. It's worse. Yeah, yeah, you know. So look,
Speaker 2: it's legal, he's not doing anything wrong, but like I
Speaker 2: just you know, from a bill from the only reason
Speaker 2: I now, like don't think it's as crazy to say that,
Speaker 2: like he might need to have like an intervention, like
Speaker 2: somebody might need to check on him and like wake
Speaker 2: him up and like let him know, like what, like
Speaker 2: do you realize what's going on here? Like we think
Speaker 2: you do, but like not really sure because this is embarrassing.
Speaker 2: There's no I mean, she's the only one benefiting from
Speaker 2: this in any way. He's not. And and at this
Speaker 2: point it's this whole thing's created. It's got a life
Speaker 2: of its own to where the hope of oh you
Speaker 2: look at Bill Man. He's cool, he's edgy, he's he's
Speaker 2: hanging out with the young ladies. Oh, he's on ig now,
Speaker 2: he's doing yoga. Poses this has created a life of
Speaker 2: its own to where none of that's even going to
Speaker 2: get attention or even get acknowledged, if it ever even
Speaker 2: was going to in the first place. So he's not
Speaker 2: benefiting from her other than maybe you know, in an
Speaker 2: intimate way, and Carolina, there's no way that if they
Speaker 2: were honest, they would say that. Right now, they feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, they've made a good decision with the whole
Speaker 2: Belichick thing. He hain't coached a game yet. Maybe I'm overreacting,
Speaker 2: but like their coach who you know, you thought would
Speaker 2: be really getting the notoriety because it's Belichick coaching college
Speaker 2: and you know that alone is a story. But this
Speaker 2: whole girlfriend thing has It's become a much bigger thing
Speaker 2: than any other component. And I don't see a scenario
Speaker 2: where it ever is not. I mean, maybe it dies
Speaker 2: off and she's just around and we get used to it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, Carolinea's getting nothing out of this Belichick again,
Speaker 2: from a pub from a publicity standpoint, like a PR thing,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's getting anything out of it. He
Speaker 2: looks people now think he's senile. I would think the
Speaker 2: NFL's now if he ever wanted to come back to
Speaker 2: the NFL, which I'm convinced he does, which is why
Speaker 2: he's doing this college thing, because he wants to show
Speaker 2: the NFL what they're missing out on. They're now looking
Speaker 2: at him probably as if he's if he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: losing his edge mentally, because like what man in his
Speaker 2: position would be doing this? And again I act like
Speaker 2: he's committing a crime and she's committing to crime. They're not.
Speaker 2: But usually when things just don't make any sense as
Speaker 2: far as the surface the optics, there's usually more to it,
Speaker 2: And we've learned I think more to it each and
Speaker 2: every day, and I wouldn't be shocked if tomorrow there's
Speaker 2: even more. But anyways, that's your update on Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson for the day. All right, quick break, we
Speaker 2: will come back on the other side, keep it rolling along.
Speaker 2: In fact, I believe I'm gonna let you guys hear
Speaker 2: the first Derby profile of the week from us here
Speaker 2: at sports Talk seven ninety. So Jody Dimling does a
Speaker 2: great job of getting you set for Derby Day, and
Speaker 2: we'll let you hear those throughout today and tomorrow. Give
Speaker 2: a lock right here on sports Talk seven ninety.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Derby Week rolling along here. Coffee and Company
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Speaker 2: have good weather on the way it looks like, but
Speaker 2: let's all just pray that it doesn't end up being brutal,
Speaker 2: because I don't know, if I know, we briefly talked
Speaker 2: about it yesterday, I can't remember how how much we
Speaker 2: got into it. But if you think about it, one
Speaker 2: of the really cool like there can't be a day
Speaker 2: other than a holiday throughout the year in Kentucky where
Speaker 2: there's more parties that people throw at their house, right
Speaker 2: because you know, maybe Fourth of July, but I would
Speaker 2: be willing to bet there's more derby parties that go
Speaker 2: on around here than Fourth of July. Really, I mean,
Speaker 2: Fourth of July is a celebration, so it's it's kind
Speaker 2: of a holiday. So therefore, like it maybe it doesn't
Speaker 2: count because it's a get together to sell, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it's a holiday. Fourth of July
Speaker 2: is not a day where like I just know I'm
Speaker 2: going to be getting together with all of my family
Speaker 2: and grandparents, but like it's also a actual holiday that
Speaker 2: people celebrate their own way. You know, there's not to me,
Speaker 2: there's never been like that. All right, Well, I got
Speaker 2: to make sure I go see my mama because it's Easter.
Speaker 2: But like you know, Fourth of July is is still
Speaker 2: a really important holiday, so I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't know, you know, that's not blasphemous. I would agree
Speaker 4: with they're probably there has to be more derby parties
Speaker 4: than there is, like Fourth of July party. What do
Speaker 4: you think about super Bowl parties here?
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's a good one. But I feel like
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I just I bet if you
Speaker 2: are from Louisville the area Kentucky, even I feel like
Speaker 2: it's more of a Louisville thing, but maybe it's bigger
Speaker 2: throughout the state. Because that's what I've never really I've
Speaker 2: never really known how the state embraces Derby, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I know that they it's the
Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby and obviously it takes place in Churchill Downs
Speaker 2: and the state. I mean, I think out in the state,
Speaker 2: Lexington specifically is more exposed to the sport of horse
Speaker 2: racing than us here in Louisville. But maybe that's just me.
Speaker 2: What do I know? But I just know that right now,
Speaker 2: anytime anybody I can think of that is that, you know,
Speaker 2: as a friend and acquaintance. If I were to ask
Speaker 2: them what they do for Derby, they would probably say
Speaker 2: that they go they have an annual place they go
Speaker 2: to because they're like, I know, like five ers. And
Speaker 2: I don't say this to bragg like I've got so
Speaker 2: many friends or something like that, because I don't really
Speaker 2: think it's that rare. Like there's like six different parts
Speaker 2: parties that I know that go on. I've been to
Speaker 2: each of them throughout the years, and I try to
Speaker 2: make a couple every year, but usually as I get
Speaker 2: older with my kids and whatnot, and I have to
Speaker 2: work half the day, we end up usually just kind
Speaker 2: of picking one maybe two to hit up. So I
Speaker 2: just feel like that's not rare, Like I feel like
Speaker 2: most people around Louisville probably don't go. Like That's one
Speaker 2: of the things that I got from a texter yesterday
Speaker 2: that really it's kind of what I was insinuating during
Speaker 2: the conversation was that I just, you know, growing up
Speaker 2: here having Derby like without being there and experiencing it
Speaker 2: because now I get to do that with work. I just,
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of took for granted that we
Speaker 2: had such a big, big event here. I mean I
Speaker 2: knew it, but it's just, you know, something you just
Speaker 2: don't really appreciate until you see that. There are people
Speaker 2: from across the world that come here for this and
Speaker 2: they love it. But a lot of people like myself
Speaker 2: growing up, didn't go to Derby every year because that's
Speaker 2: just not realistic unless you know, you're really into it,
Speaker 2: you have a family member that's like a you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe nowadays, when I think about how
Speaker 2: realistic it be for everybody to go, for people to
Speaker 2: go to Derby every year, I just think how much
Speaker 2: that costs. So a lot of people who haven't gone
Speaker 2: to Derby maybe ever, I'm sure they've got many different
Speaker 2: Derby parties that they know of or they can attend.
Speaker 2: So regardless if you're going to the track or not, I imagine,
Speaker 2: you know, the perfect scenario for your Derby party would
Speaker 2: be to be outside and enjoying, you know, good weather
Speaker 2: in May while everybody's betting on the races and all
Speaker 2: kinds of different games, and you know, the Derby parties
Speaker 2: I go to, I mean you can and nowadays you
Speaker 2: can just get out your phone and bet on an app.
Speaker 2: But also like they've got each race, you can draw
Speaker 2: one and you can you know, there's all kinds of
Speaker 2: creative ways to do it and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: In fact, the Derby party I've gone to probably more
Speaker 2: than any in the last twenty years, they auction off.
Speaker 2: They actually have an auctioneer auction off, like you bid
Speaker 2: on which horse you want, and I mean a lot
Speaker 2: of money exchange on that day. Yeah, it's awesome. So again,
Speaker 2: like I just kind of take that stuff for granted,
Speaker 2: but it's awesome. And and I bring it all up
Speaker 2: to say that it's not just those that are probably
Speaker 2: worried about the weather based off of those attending the Derby,
Speaker 2: but like, if you want to enjoy Derby Day regardless
Speaker 2: if you're at Churchill Downs or anywhere else, like we
Speaker 2: need good weather and it doesn't look good right now,
Speaker 2: so it's a bummer, all right. So again, this is
Speaker 2: our first Derby profile of the day, in fact of
Speaker 2: the week, to be honest with you, and Jody does
Speaker 2: this every year, does a great job giving us a
Speaker 2: brief rundown of each of the horses in the field.
Speaker 2: This is Admire Daytona and I'm about to play it
Speaker 2: right here from a studio computer and it's given me
Speaker 2: a weird look and file type. So I think we're good.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm gonna find out as soon
Speaker 2: as I try to play it, because it did some
Speaker 2: kind of weird like conversion thing, and here we go.
Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like it's going to work.
Speaker 2: So here is your Derby profile for Admired Daytonah, courtesy
Speaker 2: of the one and only Jody Dimpling.
Speaker 1: Now look at the Kentucky Derby Field one by one,
Speaker 1: ad Admire Daytona.
Speaker 2: You ae Derby winner.
Speaker 3: Admire Daytona is one of two Japanese bred horses in
Speaker 3: this year's Kentucky Derby field. The son of former Breeders'
Speaker 3: Cup Sprint winner and Eclipse Award winning Drayfong is likely
Speaker 3: the longer odds of the two horses coming from Japan,
Speaker 3: but that's not saying and Mayor Daytona doesn't have a
Speaker 3: chance to win the Roses. Owned by Djunko Kondo, trained
Speaker 3: by Yukiro Kato, they'll be making their first appearances in
Speaker 3: the Kentucky Derby. Admyre Daytona will be ridden by Christophe Lemaire.
Speaker 3: He's making his third trip to the Kentucky Derby. He
Speaker 3: finished sixth in twenty twenty three aboard Derma Sodogatky. Admired
Speaker 3: Daytona broke his maiden in his fourth career start in Japan,
Speaker 3: and in his fifth race, the Heistan Stakes, he ran
Speaker 3: into the other Japanese horse making the trip to the
Speaker 3: Derby Luxor Cafe on that day. Admired Daytona ran a
Speaker 3: disappointing fourth place finish, but he was shipped to Dubai
Speaker 3: for the UAE Derby. In the UAE Derby, it was
Speaker 3: a stellar stretch drive between three horses. Admire Daytona on
Speaker 3: the inside, took the lead in the latter portion of
Speaker 3: the race and then held on for a nose victory
Speaker 3: over Heart of Honor. Jacquie Christophe Lamarre says, Heart of
Speaker 3: Honor a very genuine horse with a chance to win
Speaker 3: the Roses.
Speaker 5: My horse has a good form. He was beaten by
Speaker 5: a very good horse in Japan and Admaya Deetona is
Speaker 5: a nice horse, very genuine. He's got some potential. I
Speaker 5: trust the staff for sure. They did a great job
Speaker 5: to bring him at his best.
Speaker 3: Since twenty nineteen six Japanese bred horses have run in
Speaker 3: the Kentucky Derby the best finish at third place last
Speaker 3: year by Forever Young admire Daytona. The UAE Derby winner
Speaker 3: hopes to be the first Japanese lease bred horse to
Speaker 3: win the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 4: Yeshm