WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:07.679 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on 2 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:09.480 Sports Talk seven ninety. 3 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:11.759 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 4 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:12.599 when we are. 5 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:16.000 Get off our show, idiot. The kids are playing to 6 00:00:16.079 --> 00:00:18.839 turn out, the countries are screwing it up. Gold Play 7 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:21.519 Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals. 8 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:24.600 They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 9 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:28.480 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you 10 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:33.920 kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee? 11 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:40.320 All right? Better late than never, right right, it's Coffee 12 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:43.640 and Company fuel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 13 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:46.799 We're not like really late, in fact, this is usually 14 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:50.679 in fact, we're a little early compared to where we 15 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:53.079 are at times when we sometimes get the four o'clock 16 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:54.960 and five o'clock hour started. But for the most part 17 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.479 we've been pretty sharp at being on like right at 18 00:00:57.479 --> 00:01:00.960 three o'clock. But today the Bats, their game just concluded. 19 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.799 It was actually on ten eighty, not seven ninety. But 20 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:05.599 had we got a lot of people in here working 21 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:08.120 hard on Derby week, so we didn't have an available studio, 22 00:01:08.280 --> 00:01:10.000 so I had to kill a little bit of time 23 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.400 there to get this thing started, but we're here. We're 24 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:16.719 ready to rock and roll myself, Nick Coffee, Austin Montgomery 25 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:21.879 alongside Derby Week continuing, and I mean I felt really 26 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:23.879 bad because I like to have good energy before the show. 27 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.159 But I really made Austin sad when I told him 28 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:29.640 the forecast for Saturday. I mean, you didn't take it 29 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.680 well mind me? Yeah, I mean it's not like I 30 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.680 predicted it, because you know, trust me as someone who 31 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.040 rarely gets a chance to be and I told you so. Guy, 32 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.599 I'm going to take advantage of chances when I can 33 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.359 say I told you so. But this wouldn't be genuine 34 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:45.719 because I didn't predict this. I just said I hope 35 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:49.480 it doesn't do what it's actually doing, which is that 36 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.480 if we go back a couple of days. I remember, 37 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:55.079 I think it was either Monday or Tuesday. It was 38 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:56.959 Monday actually, because that was when we started looking at 39 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.079 the forecast. It was like, Okay, we look pretty good 40 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:03.359 for Oaks and Dirty, but man, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday not 41 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:07.000 so much. And what what has happened is that it 42 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.280 just delayed, it held off, and now it's going to 43 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:15.120 be seemingly awful for Oaks and Derby I mean, I 44 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.360 know that they're often wrong, and I'm really hoping they 45 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:23.319 wrong this time. But I mean, the current forecast and 46 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:25.199 this is this is you know, I'm sure maybe Mark 47 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.520 with the c Weinberg on WDRB, maybe he's got something 48 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.800 different he's seeing. Maybe you know, maybe Jay Cardosi's got 49 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.879 something that he's looking at that nobody else has noticed. 50 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:38.120 Maybe you can find some real positivity, some optimism about 51 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:40.719 weather on Derby Day. But what it shows me here 52 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:44.319 on this this weather app on my iPhone is a 53 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:48.960 ninety five percent chance of rain on Saturday. In fact, 54 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:51.520 it now says one hundred percent chance. It was ninety 55 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:54.240 five Austin, whatever you and I were talking about twenty 56 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:56.879 minutes ago. Now we're up to one hundred percent. Which 57 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.759 can they do that? Though, like I feel like seeing 58 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:05.080 a hundred percent chance of any weather is it is 59 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.000 impossible because you know, one, you can't really predict the future. 60 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:11.280 And if you could, then you know, we wouldn't really 61 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:13.759 need mediuroologists. They would just you know, they would just 62 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:15.199 be able to tell us what's going to happen because 63 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:17.439 they can predict the future. So if you're going to 64 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:19.319 say it's one hundred percent chance of something. I would 65 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.639 hope that that means it's happening as we speak. But 66 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.759 we're still a couple of days away. So here, I 67 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.680 am trying to re route something in my brain to 68 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:28.560 tell me that they're going to be wrong, because you know, 69 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:33.080 it doesn't look good. But on Saturday, here's the chances 70 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:39.960 of precipitation you have. Let me see here. Okay, I 71 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:41.479 thought maybe I was in the wrong city. I'm not 72 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:47.360 so on Saturday. From noon, I'm sorry, from midnight, you know, 73 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:53.960 a midnight on Saturday, meaning Friday night, essentially up until 74 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.280 six pm on Saturday, there's there's no less than a 75 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:02.199 forty percent chance of rain. It's up to sixty in 76 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.520 certain spots. So here's what we know it's gonna rain. 77 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:06.919 I just hope that you know it doesn't rain as 78 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:11.120 much as they're expecting, and that you know, maybe it 79 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.479 rains early and then it doesn't rain in the afternoon, 80 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:16.040 or maybe it holds off and we get hit late 81 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:18.360 at night. But yeah, if you're preparing to go to 82 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:22.920 Derby or really just enjoy Derby at a Derby party, 83 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.639 or I mean, if the weather is what it looks 84 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:28.720 like right now, I'm not really sure anybody would enjoy 85 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:31.639 that under any circumstance, even if it wasn't Derby Day. 86 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:33.600 But it would be just it would be just our 87 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:36.399 luck if we just get, you know, hit with all 88 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.000 this rain we were supposed to get throughout the week. 89 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.439 It all just happens to dump on us on Oaks 90 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:42.920 Day and on Derby Day. But that's that's what it's 91 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:47.199 looking like. So not good. In fact, I haven't other 92 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:49.199 than just looking at my phone, I haven't haven't been 93 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:53.040 listening to what the local crews have been discussing, meaning 94 00:04:53.079 --> 00:04:55.240 those that you know are meteorologists for our news networks 95 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.439 here in town, because obviously they they're aware that they're 96 00:04:58.600 --> 00:04:59.879 I mean, their job is to tell us what's going 97 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:02.160 on in the Kentuckian area. And we happen to be 98 00:05:02.240 --> 00:05:04.600 hosting one of the biggest sporting events of the of 99 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:07.839 the year in a couple of days. So maybe I'll 100 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:11.319 look around to see if maybe I can find somebody 101 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:13.759 that's going to tell me that it's gonna be okay, 102 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:15.759 and don't worry about it, Nick, It'll be all right, 103 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.959 It'll it'll work out. I want to answers Dan. Yeah, 104 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.639 I mean, mother Nature's been bending us over all year, bro, 105 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:25.120 I mean twenty twenty five. She's she's I don't know 106 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.600 what she's doing, but she's humbling us. She's letting us 107 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:30.120 know she's calling the shots, and we're really at her 108 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:33.920 mercy because I mean, tell you what, Beyonce, I mean, 109 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.720 it's been it's been brutal this year. I mean we 110 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.279 are we have now concluded four months of the twenty 111 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:43.240 twenty five year, which just saying this out loud is crazy. 112 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.040 We are now one third of the way through twenty 113 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.800 twenty five. Think about that, Like it just feels like 114 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:52.480 it just started, right, I mean we are four months 115 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.759 into this new year, which is not a new I 116 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.680 mean we're well into the new year, so it's going 117 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.279 back quickly. Yeah. So we've had, I feel like in 118 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:03.720 the four months of twenty twenty five, I mean really 119 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.160 really unusually bad weather, right, I mean the winter was 120 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:10.319 a lot more brutal than we're used to, certainly more 121 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.480 so than it's been in a long long time. And 122 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:17.839 the wind, rain, flooding, tornadoes, and all we ask is 123 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:19.639 maybe you make it up to us on Derby Day, 124 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:23.720 Mother Nature, And she's she's relentless, isn't she just just 125 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.839 just pounding us, just just giving us a beating. What 126 00:06:26.879 --> 00:06:28.800 do we do? I don't know what we do, but 127 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:32.000 all we can do is, you know, pray that every 128 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:35.279 year a Derby. That's true. Yeah, it's worked out the light. 129 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:37.839 It wasn't rainy last year. Was it the year before? 130 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:41.120 I think it rained after the derby? Yes, that sounds 131 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:43.279 about right. I mean we've just stood in line. 132 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:47.360 We've had We've had derbies recently that I can recall 133 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:50.720 where we did not get rain. But it like the 134 00:06:50.839 --> 00:06:54.680 last few four or five derbies I can remember being 135 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.240 there as part of our coverage. It was gloomy, which 136 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:00.879 I'll take that over rain obviously. I mean, beggars can't 137 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.759 be choosers. But like, I can't remember the last time 138 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.120 I was working Derby and it was sunny and beautiful outside. 139 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:10.800 In fact, the first two I believe were like that, 140 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:12.800 and then I just assumed that it's always going to 141 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:16.160 be great. And then also, man, this sucked. But when 142 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:19.680 we did Derby, when nobody could go right, like when 143 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:25.040 we did it in like September, right, yeah, twenty twenty. Yeah, 144 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:28.639 we did it in September of twenty twenty, and like 145 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.480 we parked on like out it. We parked in the 146 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:34.199 infield because like you didn't have many I mean, the 147 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:35.959 only people that could be there at the event were 148 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.000 those that were like part of the families of the 149 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:41.800 the owners of the horses and the race. And then 150 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:43.519 of course we were there for media coverage, and it 151 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.240 was pretty light that year as far as coverage, but 152 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:48.079 we still we were still there, and I remember making 153 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.439 the walk in and it was just so surreal because 154 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:52.720 you know, you know, the derby's about to take place, 155 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.879 but you know, I'm driving right up to like near 156 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.199 where the thing starts, because that's how they did media 157 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.240 parking because again and there's there's nobody there compared to 158 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:04.519 what they usually have. And I remember making the walk 159 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:08.360 in and you know, there's people, but not a crowd, 160 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:10.040 like you know, it's not like it's a ghost town, 161 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.360 but like it's it's just really these packs of people, 162 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:16.160 right like twenty thirty people that are with this horse 163 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.720 in some former fashion and then I mean that's really 164 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.079 what it was. And then some workers. But I remember 165 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:24.959 thinking like maybe it's because you know, it's happening in 166 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:28.319 September and not in in May, but man, this would 167 00:08:28.360 --> 00:08:31.360 be the perfect day for this for this derby, but 168 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.639 you know, COVID got in the way. So yeah, anyways, 169 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:37.440 a lot to get into as we as we continue 170 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.399 to move forward here during derby week. I will say 171 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:44.360 last night the NBA playoffs got more of my attention 172 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:47.519 than they typically do. And I trust me, I'm not 173 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.480 gonna spend a lot of time talking about like Lebron 174 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:53.399 James and his future with the Lakers, because you know, 175 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.840 I don't think that will be interesting, and you know, 176 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.120 Lebron's gonna be back with the Lakers. But last night, 177 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:02.240 of course he's doing the whole well, you know, I 178 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:03.639 have to talk to my family. I'm not really sure 179 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:05.120 about what I'm gonna do. We know what you're gonna do. 180 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:10.080 But I think Lebron at this stage, to see that 181 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:14.000 he's two and twelve in the last three series that 182 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.279 he's been in the playoffs, I mean, like he can 183 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.360 be great, but like he can't carry a team anymore. 184 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.480 And I'm not sure it's because he's fallen off. Like 185 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:26.279 he's still an insanely talented player that at any moment 186 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.120 can just remind you that he's one of the best ever. 187 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.480 And I mean he'll have a game randomly and you'll say, yeah, 188 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.679 I thought this guy, that guy was the best player 189 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:35.200 in the NBA, but it might still be him just 190 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:38.840 because he's so he's just different. But the rest of 191 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.679 the NBA feel like has you know, has gotten better 192 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:44.320 to where like Lebron can now go out there and 193 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.879 put a team on like Lebron has throughout his career 194 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:51.519 put teams on his back when he's had to or 195 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.639 just done it because he's that great and they've fallen short. 196 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:57.600 But it's like, you know, in the finals or it's 197 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:02.720 Eastern Conference finals, now Lebron can be great and really 198 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.759 put up the same kind of numbers that he's always 199 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.399 put up, and they could be mid like not even good. 200 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.080 And I'm not even sure the Lakers were very good 201 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:14.879 at all this year. So the Luca trade clearly, I 202 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:16.639 think the Lakers still feel like they won that. But 203 00:10:18.320 --> 00:10:22.159 you did start to see in this series, specifically not 204 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:27.320 necessarily reasons to defend Nico Harrison, but things that he 205 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:31.039 you know, was was I guess not a fan of 206 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:32.840 when it comes to Luca, so much so that he 207 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.000 was willing to part with a guy who had just 208 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:37.279 taken him to the finals. You know, you see some 209 00:10:37.320 --> 00:10:39.600 of that play out, like the number. And we'll get 210 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:40.840 into this later because I don't want to, you know, 211 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:42.559 act like I'm going to lead with the NBA. But 212 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:47.000 there's some numbers from Luca's career in the last couple 213 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.360 of years compared to his first couple of years that 214 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:53.759 would make you believe that he's aging a lot quicker 215 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.960 than most do in the NBA. And maybe maybe one 216 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:59.519 day Nico Harrison will be able to have the last laugh. 217 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:01.399 I just hard for me to see, you know, to 218 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.720 see to see that actually playing out, because it's one 219 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:10.279 thing to give up Luca and you know, for a 220 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:13.039 bunch of future picks and a star player, but like 221 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.159 they just didn't get enough. So anyways, the playoffs at 222 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:21.679 this point, I will say they've been more interesting than 223 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:27.639 I than I anticipated. Also, we've got Mark Pope and 224 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:31.919 Rick Bettino facing off against each other next season. I 225 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.480 know Rick has talked about, In fact, Rick has both 226 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:38.320 Louisville and Kentucky talked about games that really from an 227 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.879 I understand there was nothing really in the works like 228 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:44.200 it had been mentioned. Nobody said no, but Rick will 229 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:46.519 do what Rick does and put it out there. And 230 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:49.039 like I guess put pressure on Kentucky or Louisville to 231 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:52.159 actually schedule the games, because you know, Louisville and Kentucky, 232 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.200 I'm sorry, Kentucky and Saint John's, they're gonna play each 233 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.039 other next year, but it's gonna be in the CBS 234 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.799 Sports Classic, not in any he like, it wasn't In fact, 235 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:04.799 it wasn't scheduled. Saint John's is taking the place of 236 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:08.679 UCLA in the CBS Sports Classic. And obviously Rick had 237 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:12.039 mentioned a few weeks ago he wants to play Louisville 238 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:14.200 and they're working on it and bringing Louisville to the 239 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.200 Garden next year to play his Saint John's team, and 240 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.039 it'll be part of it. That'll be the first game 241 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:22.000 in a you know, multi game series multi years. And 242 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.360 I understand that. I don't want to say he lied, 243 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:30.200 but like he extremely exaggerated sort of where that was 244 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.480 in the process. But that's just kind of what Rick does. 245 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.480 Rick just says things, and you know, has a great 246 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:40.360 way of speaking it into existence or at least, you know, 247 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.440 convincing people. I mean, what was it he said a 248 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:46.799 few weeks ago that like everybody just started talking about 249 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:48.879 and had it been anybody else that brought it up, 250 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:51.919 Nobody would talk about it because it's ridiculous and it 251 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:52.519 wouldn't happen. 252 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.639 It was him liking the the Yankees and the Mets that. 253 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.600 That that is, That was not even the one I 254 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.240 was thinking. But you've given me another good example, right, 255 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.399 like because in New York you can't do that, Like 256 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:08.480 imagine trying to justify you grew up in New York. 257 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:10.320 You love New York and you like the Net, Mets 258 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:13.080 and the Yankees, Like come on now, like I don't know, 259 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:14.919 I know you want to appeal to both New York 260 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:17.159 sides there, but like they're gonna all think you're a 261 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.440 fraud when you say that. But Rick says it and 262 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.399 they don't think it as much because he's gifted when 263 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:22.960 it comes to that kind of stuff. Here's what it is. 264 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:26.639 He mentioned that the ACC and the Big East should 265 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:30.799 should merge. Remember that he threw it and like that 266 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.279 would never happen, and the ACC has no interest in that. 267 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:36.840 I'm sure the Big East doesn't either. But yet because 268 00:13:36.840 --> 00:13:40.639 it's Rick, it got you know, he gets. If any 269 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.399 other coach would have said that, it probably would have 270 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.559 been laughed at, or maybe just not even noticed because 271 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.679 you know it's it's not it's not realistic. But you know, 272 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:51.919 Rick has has found his way onto the schedule of 273 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:55.799 Mark Pope, And I mean, I don't think that'll be 274 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:58.240 awkward for Kentucky fans. But again, I'm not a Kentucky fan, 275 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:01.039 so I can't I can't speak for them, but like 276 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.519 you're gonna want to beat Rix Brainsen, right, I would 277 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:08.519 assume so. And also, let's be real, if Mark Pope 278 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:12.360 loses and Kentucky just looks as if in year two 279 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:16.159 of Mark Pope and year three of Rick at Saint 280 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.919 John's that like Rick is in a much better spot. 281 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.440 I mean, I don't think Kentucky fans will turn on Pope, 282 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:26.919 but I guess the question would be this, and you 283 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.120 won't know, none of none of the fans will know 284 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.879 until it happens. But like you, you like Rick now right, 285 00:14:34.200 --> 00:14:35.919 I mean, I'm sure you'll find some that hate him, 286 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:38.720 and I get it because you know, he coached Louislle 287 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:41.080 for a long time and he flipped you off, and 288 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.879 you know, I get it. But Pope being back gave 289 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.919 Rick the extension to kind of crawl back to BBN 290 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:51.480 in his own way to have that moment where he 291 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:56.159 gets honored on on Big Blue Madness Night, And you know, 292 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.000 it clearly was something that not any of us ever 293 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:00.960 saw happening, but we probably should have expected it, just 294 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.200 given the fact that he coached at Kentucky won a 295 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:07.279 national championship, and he never hid the fact that he 296 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.679 loved that job more than any he had. And he 297 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:11.679 never said this directly, but I mean he kind of 298 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.879 said it without saying it many times that he knows 299 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:17.240 where he would be if he never left, right, So 300 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:19.080 it's hard for us to even think about that. Whenever 301 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:22.559 Calipari's in Lexington, Rick's at Louisville, and man, the rivalry 302 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.440 is at a level it'll never be at again because 303 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.080 there's just so much animosity and hatred. There's a personal 304 00:15:27.159 --> 00:15:29.639 rivalry between those two guys to where you just never 305 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.480 think there's a scenario Rick. I mean, you know, Rick 306 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.600 would ever come to Lexington unless he's forced to. So 307 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.639 they had that moment last year, and I think it's 308 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.399 healthy for their fan base. So I guess what I 309 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.039 was going to say, as far as you won't know 310 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.759 until you get there, if you lose to anybody, you're 311 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:50.000 gonna be upset, right, Like if you lose to any 312 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.759 team as a fan base, nobody wants to lose, right. 313 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:57.600 But I think before they mended things, before they made 314 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:01.200 up right and Rick came back and you know, talked 315 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.759 about how great Lexington was and just gassing up Mark Pope, 316 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:07.679 I'd feel like, had there not been that moment and 317 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:10.480 Rick beat you, it would feel worse than just any loss, 318 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.080 because man, that's a guy we used to make fun 319 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.399 of and we you know, he's the enemy, and now 320 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:15.840 here he is at a new school and we got 321 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.919 a new coach and he beat us. But now that 322 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:24.240 he's you know, at least been forgiven by seemingly a 323 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:27.320 lot of their fans, maybe if he beats you, it's 324 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:30.080 not as it's not like, you know, damn it, we 325 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:31.960 lost to Rick. It's like, well, you know, he was 326 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:34.320 a great coach when we had him too, and you 327 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:37.159 know maybe one day, maybe one day Mark Pope will 328 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.759 be able to get past is the guy he learned from. 329 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.519 So I don't know, I feel like, put it this way, 330 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.600 Cali Perry, that loss last year, like that sucked for 331 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:48.879 Kentucky fans. It really didn't change a whole lot. They 332 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.240 still had a good season, got a good seed, made 333 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:53.559 it to the second weekend, but like that was a 334 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:58.440 game that fans just did not want to lose. Players 335 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.679 probably didn't care. I think they understood knew that like 336 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.840 that was that was there was. That was a special 337 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:06.480 game for the fans. Caliperry clearly, you know, wanted to 338 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:08.960 go in there and remind them of what they maybe 339 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:13.480 in his eyes, took for granted. But you know now 340 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:15.640 that Rick has been has been viewed as like the 341 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.440 good guy. Like I think there's maybe I'm way off here. 342 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:21.880 I think some Kentucky fans are now like pro Rick 343 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:24.880 anti cal and I in a way I kind of 344 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.440 get it. But just imagine saying that like five six 345 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.559 years ago, right, Austin, you have some friends that are 346 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.599 Kentucky fans. Have they have you gotten any feel for 347 00:17:33.680 --> 00:17:35.319 like are they just kind of like they don't hate 348 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:37.680 Rick now or do they like like him? Or are 349 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:40.000 they still the hell with him? They're doing the thing. 350 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:43.440 I never hated him. He was he well he I mean, 351 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:45.920 he led us to a championship. He's Rick Patina. He 352 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:49.400 just he just joined Louisville. We never hated him, Yeah 353 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:51.119 you did? Yeah, Oh, you hated him big time, you 354 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:54.160 made fun of him. I mean, like, and I have 355 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.359 no problem saying this to Matt if he was here. 356 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:02.720 Matt was able to utilize Rick Pattino as the enemy, 357 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:05.359 being the Louisville's coach and Rick Patino, you know, the 358 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:08.079 Katina pal Karen Siffer stuff, like those kind of things 359 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.240 that they covered. I mean that that helped the growth 360 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:13.640 of KSR substantially. Not to say it wouldn't be super 361 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.880 successful without that kind of stuff, but like clearly like 362 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:22.240 it was. I think the Kentucky fan average personality was 363 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:26.200 all you know, most people had. There was an element 364 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:27.839 of like making fun of Rick and Louisville, you know 365 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.319 what I mean, And I don't it's not it's a rivalry, 366 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:32.599 but like him being your former coach, and then man, 367 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.519 did he give you guys a lot of ammunition to 368 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.240 make fun of him. And then we defended him, and 369 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.200 you know, had to live with the fact that we 370 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:42.480 loved the coach who you know, had the program and 371 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:45.400 some really embarrassing scandals, and then to see him go 372 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.680 back to Lexington again. It all made sense and we 373 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:50.359 should have expected it. But man, that's why I think 374 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:51.759 some Louisville fans were like, all right, the hell with 375 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:54.519 this guy. We defended you man when you were having 376 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:57.039 intercourse on a table at a restaurant in town. We 377 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:58.839 wanted you to We wanted you to keep your job. 378 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:04.440 We had, you know, we had a prostitute scandal, and 379 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:07.440 you know, I don't think Rick specifically was a factor 380 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:08.960 in that, but you know, we'll never know. I'm sure 381 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:12.519 people don't too agree with that. Yeah, Katina's ladies, Yeah, 382 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:16.839 ladies of the night, Like we're in the battlefield, just 383 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:20.720 you know, already wounded, already accepting that we're you know, 384 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:23.039 we're pretty defeated, but we were still fighting for you Rick. 385 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:25.640 Imagine fighting for your coach for that kind of stuff. 386 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:27.480 And then he goes back to the rival and you know, 387 00:19:28.039 --> 00:19:30.519 talks up them, and I mean, did he make any 388 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:32.599 He didn't really have any. He didn't take a shot 389 00:19:32.599 --> 00:19:35.359 at Louisville, but he did. He did lie and say 390 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.119 that he had never been like invited back, which I 391 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.839 loved how much that bothered former players. Not to say 392 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:43.960 that I want there to be animosity, but like they 393 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:46.400 checked him on that, and I was happy to hear 394 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:48.799 that because he did his lit I mean, he was 395 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:50.839 invited to come back when they honored the twenty thirteen 396 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:56.200 championship team for their ten year reunion and chose not to. 397 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.000 I mean, you know, and he could have, And I 398 00:19:59.119 --> 00:20:01.960 get it if it's still too raw for him to 399 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:05.079 where he's just not ready for that. But I mean, 400 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.200 don't lie about it, like, don't act like Louisville's out 401 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.240