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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Coffee and Company hour number two here on

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for hanging out with us on

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<v Speaker 2>a chili very fall like day today, which I enjoy,

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't enjoy the weird weather on my way in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think somebody is it hailing somewhere here in the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentuckiana region.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard Jay Cardosi mentioned some Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not good hails, kind of scary. But I am

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying the cool temperatures. I know some people probably hate it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I get it. You know, everybody's got their preferences

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to weather, and I would say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably in the minority, not that people don't enjoy fall

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the holiday season that comes later in

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<v Speaker 2>the year, of course, in the actual winter. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not some body that really has impacted whenever it gets

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<v Speaker 2>dark outside earlier. But it's a true, like it's a

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<v Speaker 2>true issue for people to wear like their morale like

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<v Speaker 2>it it's you know, seasonal depression, like it's a real thing. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, condolences to those that are about to be

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<v Speaker 2>very sad, but I can't relate. I mean, hoodie, we

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<v Speaker 2>got hoodies out, we got you know, bonfire season is here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's uh, it's good to say with.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still somebody. I'm put the shorts away pretty late.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm still wearing my khaki shorts today. I'll probably wear

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<v Speaker 4>regular shorts too throughout the week. But I usually I

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<v Speaker 4>try to, you know, delay putting the jeans on.

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<v Speaker 3>That type of stuff. Why. I don't know this comfort

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<v Speaker 3>or what I think. I think it's a comfort thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I enjoy jeans, but also even when the

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<v Speaker 4>weather is cooler, I kind of just like having summertime

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<v Speaker 4>clothes on.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, I I'm a routine guy. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the shorts are still there, but like I haven't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, unless I'm like at home laying around the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been jeans, joggers, that kind of stuff. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's cozy, especially whenever it's it's chilly outside.

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<v Speaker 2>But it should be in the mid or low seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's low seventies on Saturday, which should be

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<v Speaker 2>perfect honestly, and the sun is supposed to be shining

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<v Speaker 2>again a lot a lot of that can change when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to you know, the forecast. But Saturday is

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<v Speaker 2>setting up to be a beautiful afternoon at ellen N

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<v Speaker 2>Cardinal Stadium. And as we just learned about thirty minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes or so ago from a press release from UVL,

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<v Speaker 2>they have sold out the game. So the louisvill Miami

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<v Speaker 2>game is sold out, which I'll admit it, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>expect that, especially you knowing that you know it's at noon,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would say, well, I don't know, maybe everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>schedules different, But when it comes to you know, making

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<v Speaker 2>arrangements to get a babysitter or you know, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because you go to a game and you plan on tailgating,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're spending, regardless of the game's at noon or

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<v Speaker 2>if it's in the afternoon or the evening, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big chunk of your Saturday. And with that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people need to make arrangements. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>people are less inclined to make arrangements for something if

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<v Speaker 2>it's if it's noon, But hey, it's sold out and

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's what you want. Third sellout, As I mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>a moment ago, Third sellouts since Jeff Brohm.

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<v Speaker 3>Has has been here.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so we have to talk some basketball as

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<v Speaker 2>it's also not really in season, but getting close. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>We're six days away from Louisville having an exhibition game,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that's exciting. We'll actually see them play

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<v Speaker 2>against a different opponent, and I'm sure they will will

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<v Speaker 2>handle whoever it is they play. I meant to look

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<v Speaker 2>it up earlier, but I didn't. Either way, I feel confident.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel confident in saying that that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like the first uh. I mean, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing that really stands out as far as

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<v Speaker 2>how bad the previous regime was. Not that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>already know that, but like getting past these exhibition opponents

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<v Speaker 2>is something we couldn't do the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure they'll and in fact, I'm now even

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<v Speaker 2>more confident not only that they're gonna win, but like

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<v Speaker 2>they may blow this team off the off the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is Young Harris College, not old Harris, not

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<v Speaker 2>middle aged Harris, but Young Harris College. That's who they play.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never I've never heard of them. They're in Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>They are. Yeah, they're another in Georgia. Oh well look

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<v Speaker 3>what I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean maybe that you're maybe you're thinking old Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is a young.

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<v Speaker 4>Harrison Town State, is what I'm thinking of the Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 4>aren't they.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're Ohio? Are you in Youngstown in the city

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<v Speaker 3>that is called young Yeah, I mean I'm looking like

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, like that's why whenever we do discuss

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of teams, I say things like butt crack State,

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<v Speaker 2>because like, it really doesn't matter what their name is,

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<v Speaker 2>and this team is probably gonna get killed. I mean not,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's any probably to it. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that they they get they get demolished by Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>not because Louisvill is e lead. I mean, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>a team like Louisville is supposed to do when you

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<v Speaker 2>play these kind of teams. But Pat Kelsey said any minute.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't just you know, coach speak. He said, they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna prepare for that game just like they would be

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<v Speaker 2>playing Duke. And I just think that's his routine. He's

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<v Speaker 2>super organized, super detailed, and you know, the not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be any game Rather it be exhibition, conference game, non

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<v Speaker 2>conference game, tournament game. Like they're going to stick to

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<v Speaker 2>a routine and a plan as far as how they prepare,

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<v Speaker 2>how they get ready, and you know, don't mean it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna work. I mean, I think it'll work against Young

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<v Speaker 2>Harris College, but it's gonna be weird for me, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be the guy that's like bragging

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<v Speaker 2>on a coach who's you know, doing his job. But

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<v Speaker 2>we went a few years without really seeing that happen,

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<v Speaker 2>so it is kind of exciting. We'll let you hear

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<v Speaker 2>more from from Pat Kelsey coming up here a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later on. Also at four thirty, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in David Hale of ESPN. We will get

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<v Speaker 2>his thoughts on this Louisville Miami matchup. He of course

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<v Speaker 2>covers the ACC for ESPN, and this is certainly a

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<v Speaker 2>big matchup within conference play. I wish Louisville was in

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<v Speaker 2>the same spot Miami was, meaning undefeated in conference play.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, a win here could go a long way

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<v Speaker 2>for Louisville. Easier said than done, but you really can

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<v Speaker 2>put yourself in a spot to look at the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of your schedule after that, you know, again, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of myself here, but if they do find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to win this game, then I think we can

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<v Speaker 2>start having this the type of conversations we were having

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<v Speaker 2>a few weeks ago, and they actually, you know it

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<v Speaker 2>actually be real, right. I mean, I just for Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>to go on a run here and really finish strong

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, beat Miami, beat Clemson at their place,

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<v Speaker 2>pits in the top twenty. I mean, it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you there's no scenario any of those things

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<v Speaker 2>are going to happen. I'm just willing to acknowledge that

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<v Speaker 2>six games in this team has kind of shown me

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<v Speaker 2>who they are. And they did take steps in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction on Saturday against Virginia on the road and

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<v Speaker 2>they found a way to win and that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're still making avoidable mistakes that can in any moment,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cost you a game, can flip a game

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<v Speaker 2>in the other direction. And I'm not asking for perfection,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, not like they got to go out

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<v Speaker 2>and prove anything to me, but I think they need

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<v Speaker 2>to prove it to themselves. And I think Saturday was

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<v Speaker 2>a big step because a loss there could have really,

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<v Speaker 2>it really could have sent this season in the direction

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<v Speaker 2>at a really high rate of speed.

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<v Speaker 3>But they found a way to win.

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<v Speaker 2>And now this opportunity is there and hopefully they make

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<v Speaker 2>the most of it. Right And even if you do

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<v Speaker 2>play really well and you lose, that's still gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>tough because that gives you two losses in conference play.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just hope that it's not a loss where

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<v Speaker 2>you look back and look at penalties, you look at.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad play calls, you look.

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<v Speaker 2>At you know, just avoidable mistakes, things that like have

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with Miami being really good. Just it's

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<v Speaker 2>you not being able to get out of your own way.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what That's what I fear is that you

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<v Speaker 2>play them close. It's competitive, but when when you go back,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a game that you feel like, man, if

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<v Speaker 2>we just were better, if we were a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more sharp and more sound and then sync, then we

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<v Speaker 2>would be you know, we've been in a much different

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<v Speaker 2>situation and you'd have to look in the mirror if

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it plays out. But we'll see, we shall

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<v Speaker 2>see something else that we did just discuss in the

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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock hour for those just now joining us. Rick Patino,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was obviously in Lexington this past weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked a lot about that yesterday, but Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>was asked about Rick Pittino ever coming back to Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was all so asked about his relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>Chris mac as those two have essentially just traded jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't really thought about it that way, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely what happened, and you know, for what it's worth,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not surprised at all that he said it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he would welcome Patino back at any moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know fans would agree, especially right now, but.

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<v Speaker 3>I think eventually that will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know if we're any I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it could be a long long time before that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe I'm wrong, maybe it doesn't ever happen, but

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<v Speaker 2>I still think. And we've had a few people and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get to the fole lines in just one second,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've had a few people on the text line

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that, like, at this point, what scenario would bring

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<v Speaker 2>him back? And it is clear if in fact there's

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<v Speaker 2>ever anything done where they can hang that banner again,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not saying there will be or if there

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<v Speaker 2>needs to be, I mean, I mean, I would hope

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<v Speaker 2>that they eventually can because I know it would be

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<v Speaker 2>special for those guys. But my thoughts about twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>title team. I don't often sit around and think, like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we would have won the twenty thirteen title

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<v Speaker 2>we did within the NCAA told us that we didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not how my mindset is because I'm an you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, who would.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would do that?

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<v Speaker 2>But if they ever do get clearance from the NCAA,

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<v Speaker 2>or they just say they don't care and they decide

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<v Speaker 2>to rehang the banner, or if there's you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're only you know, maybe at the fifteen year reunion

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<v Speaker 2>if they do that for the twenty thirteen team, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know, maybe it's the twenty year reunion

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirty three, long way away, right. Rick will

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<v Speaker 2>be very very old at that point. But I would

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<v Speaker 2>say something that honors the scenario where he's back, is

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<v Speaker 2>where they're honoring that team or that era in those

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<v Speaker 2>players who are close to Rick and mean a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to Rick, they want him to be there. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time thinking he would say that, No, he

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't come. So you know, I'm not saying he's just

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<v Speaker 2>itching for an invite, but I think that scenario is

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<v Speaker 2>not that far fetched to see it play out, but

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<v Speaker 2>it probably won't be, you know, anytime soon. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>need to be like Louisville and they're I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think right now. Again, no games have been played, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not in any results to assess at this point, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can just sense the there is a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good energy with Loell Hoops right now, and there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with the Rick Betino.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about Pat Kelsey.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got the job, and you know fans are

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<v Speaker 2>excited about it, myself included. All right, let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>the phone linees Fibot two if I'm seven one seventy

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<v Speaker 2>nine hundred is the number. Let's welcome in kirk Kirk.

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing this afternoon, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, how you doing today? Mister coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>Good to hear from you, Good to hear from you, Good.

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<v Speaker 6>To talk to you again.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>I you know I wanted to put my two cents

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<v Speaker 6>on this Rick Betino thing. I know you've headed up

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<v Speaker 6>to your eyebrows in it, but you know I've been

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<v Speaker 6>a Louisville fan for all my life. I'm fifty four

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<v Speaker 6>years old, and uh uh, I have zero problem with

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<v Speaker 6>him going to Kentucky. I mean, you know, look what

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<v Speaker 6>the guy's done there. You know, he's he he's a legend,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, just for us to even have him

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<v Speaker 6>for the time we had him, I'm I'm surely grateful

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<v Speaker 6>for that. I guess the only thing I've seen a

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<v Speaker 6>problem with was he was wearing the UK shirt and

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<v Speaker 6>then the next day he's got the Saint John shirt on,

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<v Speaker 6>and I kind of see that that's a little bit

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<v Speaker 6>of problem for their fans, because if he's coaching Louisville

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<v Speaker 6>and he goes to Kentucky and he puts on a

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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky shirt, I'm I'm kind of gonna have a problem

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<v Speaker 6>with that. So, you know, so I just was just,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, thinking their fans are probably the ones that

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<v Speaker 6>are having more of the problem with it than the

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<v Speaker 6>Louisville fans. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate the call, Kirk, good to hear from you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll say this, man, like I thought about Saint

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<v Speaker 2>John's fans Friday night when I saw him wearing the

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<v Speaker 2>blue at the football or at the big blue madness.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would have been kind of awkward for

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<v Speaker 2>him to be out there wearing Saint John's gear, But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he could have wore I he could have

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<v Speaker 2>wore suit, could have war something neutral, And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a I mean, it kind of makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>that he wore blue, but the fact that he is

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<v Speaker 2>currently coaching at A I mean, they're not a rival

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<v Speaker 2>by any means, but like Saint John's is a big

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<v Speaker 2>East program that has legitimate expectations. This year, Patino loaded

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<v Speaker 2>up in the portal. Like I think we still don't

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<v Speaker 2>really view him as like a thread in the grand

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<v Speaker 2>scheme of college basketball, just because you know, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>so long since he's he's been a big factor, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they almost the tournament last year at Saint John's

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe they break through this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk, the first thing, I really you know, I and

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<v Speaker 2>I have no clue, but like, does Saint John's really

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<v Speaker 2>have like a big fan base like their New York's team,

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<v Speaker 2>But like I think it's just whenever they're good, Like

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<v Speaker 2>people that live in New York were like, Oh, we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a team here in town that's actually pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to college hoops. Let's go to the

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<v Speaker 2>Garden when they play there. Like, I'm sure they do

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<v Speaker 2>have fans. I'm not acting like they have no fan

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<v Speaker 2>base at all, but like, I don't really know if

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<v Speaker 2>there's this big mob of Saint John's fans that would

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<v Speaker 2>feel a certain.

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<v Speaker 3>Way about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they did, I would get it, because keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind Patino returning to Big Blue Madness. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that got a ton of attention. And I'm not just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about around here. I mean he got a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of attention in the college basketball world, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just probably wouldn't make you feel good to see

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<v Speaker 2>your coach, even if you understand why he's there and

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on, like him probably getting more coverage then

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<v Speaker 2>he's maybe gonna get all year. This year is at

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<v Speaker 2>an event for another school where he's wearing their gear,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just unusual. But again, Rick, like Rick gets

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<v Speaker 2>away with things other coaches wouldn't get away with. People

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<v Speaker 2>don't really bad an eye with certain things he says

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<v Speaker 2>and does because it's just him being him, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty consistent for many, many, many years. You know, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think both things can be true. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>happy for Mark Pope that he got the job, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really special to know that a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that's now leading that program was a captain and won

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<v Speaker 2>a championship for him. Like I'm not saying that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't care about it at all. But again, when I

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<v Speaker 2>say both things can be true. The other thing I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, outside of him being genuine and being happy

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<v Speaker 2>for Pope, Rick saw an opportunity to make something all

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<v Speaker 2>about him and he's done that for years, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>just who he is. We don't have to know him

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<v Speaker 2>personally to know that's that's on brand for him to

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<v Speaker 2>do that. But yeah, Saint John's fans like I saw,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I saw a lot of people, even Kentucky fans,

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<v Speaker 2>not just louisvill fans, but like it was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>common reaction. Wow, people forget he coaching at Saint John's.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what their fans think. I'd be pissed, But

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen the single Saint John's fan online that

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<v Speaker 2>was upset. And it might not be because they are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, understanding and don't care. It might be because

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<v Speaker 2>there's not many of them out there, Like what is

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<v Speaker 2>their fan base? Again, I'm sure they have fans, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I can't think of, like I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know a Saint John's fan. When I think of basketball

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<v Speaker 2>fans in New York, I don't really even think college

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<v Speaker 2>hoops fans. I think mostly I think mostly of the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I was in New York for the for

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<v Speaker 2>the Big East Tournament a couple of times, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and before the league split up, and you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different world now. Like anybody that was there

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<v Speaker 2>that was from New York. They were cheering on Syracuse

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<v Speaker 2>And it might have been because QS was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>better than Saint John's.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe Saint John's is more of like the Catholic

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<v Speaker 4>fan base.

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<v Speaker 7>That could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it could be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just again, I maybe I'm way off

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<v Speaker 2>and they have this big old fan base that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just unaware of. But like I mean, I've not even

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever even seen like a presence

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<v Speaker 2>of them online. And that doesn't speak to the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that that doesn't mean they don't have any fans, but

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<v Speaker 2>like if you're somebody that is active on like Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, or even Trillie Donovan's discord or message boards,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like you can at times get a get

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<v Speaker 2>a you can get a feel for like what kind

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<v Speaker 2>of presence a fan base has online and like like

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<v Speaker 2>for example, like Providence Providence basketball fans. I would I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't think that that's a huge fan base in the

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<v Speaker 2>grand scheme of things as far as the amount of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but like they're they're nuts, Like they're like they're crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>So you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, thank you for the call, Kirk. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go back to the thol lines. Now we'll welcome

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<v Speaker 2>in Jerry, who joins us on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>What has happened in Jerry? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Brother?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey Ben Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, yeah, real quick, So I want to I got

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<v Speaker 7>one question, a bunch of comments, and then I'll ask

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<v Speaker 7>you my last question. My first question is did you

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<v Speaker 7>read the Eric Crawford article about Rick someday coming back

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<v Speaker 7>to Louisville bringing Crumb up in the article and all that?

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<v Speaker 7>Did you read? I not know.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw piece from Eric earlier today about Pat Kelsey's team,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have not seen what he wrote about Rick Patino.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to check that out.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's well anyway, in the article he talks about

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<v Speaker 7>basically is what he's saying, as Patino should should look

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<v Speaker 7>at Crumb because Crumb came around. But he but he,

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<v Speaker 7>but he he mentioned the bitterness, and and I was

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<v Speaker 7>a big Crumb fan. But I've never understood the his bitterness,

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<v Speaker 7>his current wife that he had when he passed away,

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<v Speaker 7>his bitterness, his ex players, and some of the hardcore

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<v Speaker 7>Denny fans being bitter about the whole thing. Because let me,

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<v Speaker 7>let me touch on a couple of things. I went

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<v Speaker 7>back and looked and Denny's last four years, and like

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<v Speaker 7>I say, he was awesome, man. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>it's like I tell people to do what he did,

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<v Speaker 7>practicing out of cropper gym and dancing around horse horse

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<v Speaker 7>horse events at Freedom Hall, you know, in juggling dates

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<v Speaker 7>with rodeos and all that craft he did. He worked wonders, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>But in his last four years Crumb was sixty two

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<v Speaker 7>and sixty two with two NCAA tournament appearances, no wins,

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<v Speaker 7>okay in that time, two losing seasons. Not in his

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<v Speaker 7>last four years, but in his last six years he

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<v Speaker 7>had like two losing seasons. I set through one of

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<v Speaker 7>them as a season ticket holder when he went twelve

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<v Speaker 7>and twenty two one year. Yet yet when he left,

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<v Speaker 7>I went back and looked at it, and Eric didn't

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<v Speaker 7>mention this in his article. They he did mention the

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<v Speaker 7>first day. I'm getting ready to say they gave him

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<v Speaker 7>two million dollars, okay, but then they gave him three

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<v Speaker 7>hundred and thirty eight thousand dollars for fifteen years. They

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<v Speaker 7>gave him an office on campus and a secretary in

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<v Speaker 7>a title under then President John Schumacher. They gave him

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<v Speaker 7>a ticket allotment and all that other thing. So the

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<v Speaker 7>bitterness I will never understand.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a grad.

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<v Speaker 7>You know I'm a fan, but I'm not a big booster.

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<v Speaker 7>Yet during that time, I was so frustrated. I called

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<v Speaker 7>Tom Jerridge. He didn't know me from Adam. I've still

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<v Speaker 7>never met the man I called him. I called him

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<v Speaker 7>one season and then I called him and Denny's last season,

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<v Speaker 7>and I echoed the same thing both times. Not that

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<v Speaker 7>I influenced him. I'm sure he was getting a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of calls, but he, to my surprise, he called me,

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<v Speaker 7>and not only did he call me, he gave me

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty five minutes of his time both times, and

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<v Speaker 7>he was very forthcoming, and I was I was shocked

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<v Speaker 7>how honest he was with me and some of the

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<v Speaker 7>things he said. Okay, I was for what he did

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<v Speaker 7>and making the move. I was for him hiring Rick Petino. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>uh Patino. When and when twenty thirteen was over, if

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<v Speaker 7>somebody asked me, and I go way back, as I've

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<v Speaker 7>told you before, you know, I'm in my sixties, I

421
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<v Speaker 7>go way. I've watched them. I've watched a ton of

422
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<v Speaker 7>practices in Crawford Gym when I went to you graduated

423
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<v Speaker 7>during nineteen eighty three. But anyway, in twenty thirteen, if

424
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<v Speaker 7>somebody said, who are you a Crumb guy or Patino guy?

425
00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:16.279
<v Speaker 7>I was a Patino guy. Okay, I had switched over.

426
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<v Speaker 7>That's just the way it is. But when Patino said

427
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<v Speaker 7>that he was going to contribute to UK football, that

428
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<v Speaker 7>was enough for me. I was done. I'm like whatever, Okay,

429
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<v Speaker 7>but I will say this. I've and I've told this

430
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<v Speaker 7>to a lot of people. I'm gonna ask you a question.

431
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<v Speaker 7>It's just my opinion. My answer. Who was the big

432
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<v Speaker 7>winner when Rick went to Midnight Madness the other night?

433
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<v Speaker 7>Who won more than anybody.

434
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<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe Rick himself, right, I mean, I mean.

435
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<v Speaker 7>Well, my answer, my answer is Pat Kelsey. Pat Kelsey wins.

436
00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.960
<v Speaker 7>He's the big winner in my opinion, because the guys

437
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<v Speaker 7>that were sort of hanging on to Patinos ill yet

438
00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.319
<v Speaker 7>maybe me a little bit, you know, you know, pining,

439
00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.480
<v Speaker 7>pining for those days he was. You know, I'm sort

440
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<v Speaker 7>of I'm sort of moved on now. And if he

441
00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:12.920
<v Speaker 7>hit the home run, if he hits the home run,

442
00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:17.599
<v Speaker 7>he owns this place. Man, I'm telling you, with his personality,

443
00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.200
<v Speaker 7>the style of ball, he's the winner. He comes out

444
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<v Speaker 7>the winner on this deal more than anybody, I think.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and Jerry, I appreciate the call. We got

446
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<v Speaker 2>to get your break in just a second because we've

447
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<v Speaker 2>got a guest coming up. But I will say this, Yeah,

448
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<v Speaker 2>I mean for those that were kind of hanging on

449
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, maybe that ripped the band aid off,

450
00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:36.519
<v Speaker 2>so to speak, as far as like, yeah, you know,

451
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<v Speaker 2>this guy's kind of shown us that he's more of

452
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<v Speaker 2>a he's clearly more blue than he'll ever be red.

453
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, maybe it made it a little easier.

454
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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, it's because of my age, not

455
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<v Speaker 2>to make you sound like an old man Jerry. But

456
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<v Speaker 2>I never ever thought about I'm a Rip guy or

457
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<v Speaker 2>a Denny guy.

458
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<v Speaker 7>I was.

459
00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:52.119
<v Speaker 3>I was, I was both.

460
00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean I idolized. I mean, Denny Crumb is what

461
00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.039
<v Speaker 2>made little of basketball what it is today. And I

462
00:20:57.079 --> 00:20:59.119
<v Speaker 2>was so young, like at the time Rick came back.

463
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was aware that, even at a young

464
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<v Speaker 2>age that it was kind of it was kind of,

465
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Denny being forced out by Tom. And I'm

466
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<v Speaker 2>sure people who love Denny and Denny himself weren't happy

467
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<v Speaker 2>about that. But the bitterness, I mean, it was there.

468
00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean quite clearly, it was there, but I didn't

469
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<v Speaker 2>feel like that we heard I mean me to me

470
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<v Speaker 2>is one of those things that it didn't really become

471
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<v Speaker 2>such a public thing until late, like many years down

472
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<v Speaker 2>the line. We'll get back into this a little later on. Well,

473
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<v Speaker 2>we got a run right now. We got a guest

474
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<v Speaker 2>joining us on the other side, so we'll pay some

475
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<v Speaker 2>bills and bring him in. He's David Hale from ESBA,

476
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<v Speaker 2>who covers college football the ACC for the Four Letter Network.

477
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<v Speaker 2>He's with us next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

478
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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety taking you up till six o'clock. Thanks for

481
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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with us, certainly appreciate it. If you are

482
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<v Speaker 2>just now joining us. We did get news in the

483
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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock hour that the game Saturday, Louisville and Miami

484
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<v Speaker 2>is a sellout, So that's exciting. I mean, Lowell does

485
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<v Speaker 2>big games pretty well when it comes to atmosphere crowds.

486
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think they do big events in Louisville,

487
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<v Speaker 2>not even just Louisville Cardinals stuff, but you know, when

488
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<v Speaker 2>there's something big going on, you know, people like to party,

489
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<v Speaker 2>people like to have a good time. If it's you know,

490
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<v Speaker 2>a random team coming in town that nobody cares about,

491
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<v Speaker 2>yeah they're gonna be fine watching it on TV.

492
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<v Speaker 7>All right.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Joining us now to talk about this matchup is mister

494
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<v Speaker 2>David Hale, who covers the ACC in college football for ESPN,

495
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<v Speaker 2>and how we doing this afternoon, David.

496
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<v Speaker 5>I'm well, I'm excited for this game. It is a

497
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Speaker 5>sellout and I will be among the sold out.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, that's all the matters out there. It's all

499
00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.720
<v Speaker 2>that matters to me is that you're going to be there,

500
00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:33.440
<v Speaker 2>and is this. I feel like those who know the

501
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<v Speaker 2>AEC pretty well, you are obviously one of those people.

502
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<v Speaker 2>Before the season started, when you looked at the schedule,

503
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<v Speaker 2>this was probably one of the more intriguing matchups of

504
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<v Speaker 2>the of the slate. Is that still the case? Louisville

505
00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.079
<v Speaker 2>has a couple of losses already that wasn't necessarily expected

506
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<v Speaker 2>by folks around here, and in Miami they're undefeated, They're

507
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<v Speaker 2>ranked number six in the country. I guess, how would

508
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<v Speaker 2>you say these teams have done thus far compared to

509
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<v Speaker 2>what you were expecting?

510
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I mean, it's just the bar is

511
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<v Speaker 5>set pretty low when you're looking at NC State and

512
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<v Speaker 5>Florida State and you know, Virginia Tech all having three

513
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<v Speaker 5>or more losses at this point. Like the teams we

514
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:13.279
<v Speaker 5>were expecting to be good have been a mixed bag

515
00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:15.799
<v Speaker 5>to say the least. But you know, I think Miami

516
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:20.079
<v Speaker 5>has probably exceeded expectations, at least in terms of entertainment factor,

517
00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:23.960
<v Speaker 5>and of course they're undefeated, and then you know Louisville.

518
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<v Speaker 5>The frustrating part I think if you're a Louisville fan

519
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:32.440
<v Speaker 5>is the margin between where they are and being exactly

520
00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:36.279
<v Speaker 5>where Miami is is razor thin, like they very easily

521
00:23:36.319 --> 00:23:39.119
<v Speaker 5>could have won both of those games that they lost.

522
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<v Speaker 5>Of course, they could have lost last week two as

523
00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.480
<v Speaker 5>easily as they won, So sometimes that goes both ways.

524
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<v Speaker 5>But I walk away or I walk into this saying

525
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<v Speaker 5>I think these are two of the most talented teams

526
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<v Speaker 5>in the ACC still in spite of the couple of

527
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<v Speaker 5>l's on Louisville's record, and frankly, I would not be

528
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<v Speaker 5>surprised at all if this is a game Miami struggles

529
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<v Speaker 5>to win, because I think, you know, just if you

530
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<v Speaker 5>look at who they've played thus far, and I know

531
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<v Speaker 5>they had a couple of close ones with calum Virginia Tech,

532
00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.839
<v Speaker 5>but I think of all the teams that they've played,

533
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<v Speaker 5>this will be their most talented opponent.

534
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<v Speaker 3>So far before we get to to Louisville.

535
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<v Speaker 2>I think I have a little bit of a different

536
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:20.279
<v Speaker 2>opinion on Miami than most, and I'll throw it at

537
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 2>you and see what you think. Obviously, they are fortunate

538
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 2>to have avoided losses in their last two games, with

539
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:28.839
<v Speaker 2>the questionable call and then the reversal of the call

540
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>against Virginia Tech and then really just a desperation, you know,

541
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.440
<v Speaker 2>comeback that worked out for them. I actually think that's

542
00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, again, they could easily have lost, and it

543
00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:41.759
<v Speaker 2>proves they're vulnerable against those caliber teams. But I kind

544
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<v Speaker 2>of feel like Miami teams of old would have lost

545
00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:46.039
<v Speaker 2>those games. I mean, maybe it was just the ref

546
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 2>bail on them out, but like I kind of feel

547
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 2>like in a weird way, despite it making them vulnerable

548
00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:51.680
<v Speaker 2>and some people saying they're not worthy of the number

549
00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:55.160
<v Speaker 2>six ranking, I actually think them winning is a big

550
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:58.079
<v Speaker 2>a good sign for Mario Christoval and I think they're

551
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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, I feel like most Miami team in

552
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<v Speaker 2>the last like twenty years would have not won those games.

553
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<v Speaker 5>You are, without question, one hundred percent accurate here.

554
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:07.480
<v Speaker 3>I hear that lot.

555
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:11.160
<v Speaker 5>I'll preface no, and it gets boring after a while

556
00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 5>being so right. I'll preface this by saying there's not

557
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 5>a team worthy of the number six ranking, Like there

558
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:20.799
<v Speaker 5>aren't six really good teams right now. Miami is as

559
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 5>good as anyone else you would rank at number six

560
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 5>in my opinion, and look, good teams play games like this.

561
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:33.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, we just watched a absolute like shootout with

562
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:35.599
<v Speaker 5>Georgia and Alabama a couple of weeks ago, where we

563
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 5>thought we understood what that meant, and we didn't. But

564
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:41.279
<v Speaker 5>George is a really damn good team that basically did

565
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:43.799
<v Speaker 5>the same thing that Miami did, and that they had

566
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 5>just an everything went against you first half and then

567
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 5>scrambled and fought and clawed their way back and had

568
00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:53.400
<v Speaker 5>a chance to win but didn't. Miami did, And look

569
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:55.319
<v Speaker 5>have they gotten some breaks? Like I'm not really going

570
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 5>to say they got a break against Virginia Tech. I

571
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<v Speaker 5>think the ultimate call was right. How we got there

572
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 5>was lunacy, but the call was right eventually, Like should

573
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 5>that have been a targeting in the Cal game? Like, yeah,

574
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.240
<v Speaker 5>I think you probably make a pretty strong argument on that.

575
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 5>But you know, I sort of made this argument about

576
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 5>Miami last year when they lost to Georgia Tech, and

577
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:16.279
<v Speaker 5>everybody's like either arguing the call that it shouldn't have

578
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 5>been a fumble or how dumb Mario was for not

579
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.960
<v Speaker 5>taking a time out, and forget all of that. Georgia

580
00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 5>Tech still had to go in March seventy some yards

581
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:25.359
<v Speaker 5>in like forty seconds to get a touchdown to win

582
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.079
<v Speaker 5>that game. All the stuff that Miami did against Cal

583
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:32.440
<v Speaker 5>in that fourth quarter is mind bogglingly good and did

584
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 5>they get a break along the way somewhere. Absolutely they did,

585
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 5>but that doesn't change the fact that all of the

586
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 5>other stuff that they did was ridiculously indicative of an

587
00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 5>incredibly talented team. And part of this all sort of

588
00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:47.400
<v Speaker 5>circles back to the quarterback. And I'm not one that

589
00:26:47.440 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 5>wants to make the entire story about the quarterback all

590
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.720
<v Speaker 5>the time, but him Ward has changed who Miami is

591
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:57.839
<v Speaker 5>because his personality is just infectious. The level of confidence

592
00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.680
<v Speaker 5>that he plays with and I said this during the

593
00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 5>Cal game, like sometimes it's his worst fault too, is

594
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.359
<v Speaker 5>the level of confidence that he plays with and he

595
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:09.759
<v Speaker 5>gets him into trouble, but it is also his best strength,

596
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 5>and it is infectious with everybody else where. I think

597
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 5>this Miami team, particularly after these last two, just feels like,

598
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:17.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, they got all the vibes going in their

599
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 5>direction and there's no game that they're going to be

600
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 5>out of or be intimidated by. And that is, to

601
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 5>your point, a huge step forward from the Miami teams

602
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 5>of the last oh I don't know, most of our lifetimes.

603
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And there's always been this talk about the you

604
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 2>is that are they ever going to be back? And

605
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>sometimes fans thought they were back and then they learned

606
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the hard way that they weren't. And there could be

607
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of factors, and there are a lot of

608
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 2>factors I'm sure that have kept Miami from, you know,

609
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.759
<v Speaker 2>winning a national championship. Not many teams are sharing those

610
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.880
<v Speaker 2>this day and age. It's usually the same cast of

611
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, elite programs that do it. But one of

612
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 2>the things that I feel like never gets talked about.

613
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is and I just don't pay attention, but

614
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Miami hasn't had a really really good quarterback in a

615
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 2>long time. Like they've had some guys that were fine,

616
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>but you know, and if you are a program with

617
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.880
<v Speaker 2>history like Miami has its one national championship, you know

618
00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you need it's gonna take a really special quarterback every

619
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:08.799
<v Speaker 2>now and then for you to have a special type

620
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 2>of season. And I feel like that's kind of where

621
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>they are right now. I mean, he you know, you

622
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of answered my next question anyway, because he is

623
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.400
<v Speaker 2>he is that special. Were you were you expecting this

624
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.440
<v Speaker 2>from him this year? Because I feel like it was

625
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of a mixed bag as far as people believing

626
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 2>he would come in and really make this big of

627
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>an impact for Miami, and I think you know the

628
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<v Speaker 2>quarterback as you know somebody who covers football like it's

629
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<v Speaker 2>a very important position.

630
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<v Speaker 3>But I think you're right.

631
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>His energy, he's a winner, he's competitive, it's infectious, and

632
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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think you can make the kind of

633
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<v Speaker 2>comeback they did against Cal without that guy leading you

634
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and everybody feeding off of his energy.

635
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<v Speaker 5>No, I one hundred percent agree with this. And now

636
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 5>look what should be said. Well, you'll let me double

637
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<v Speaker 5>back to your first point, which it cannot be overstated enough.

638
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.519
<v Speaker 5>How bad the QB play has been at Miami for

639
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<v Speaker 5>twenty five years. If you go back over the last

640
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 5>quarter century and just compare Louisville in Miami and rank

641
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.400
<v Speaker 5>the quarterbacks from best to worst, how far down the

642
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.400
<v Speaker 5>list do you go before you put a Miami quarterback like,

643
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Louisvill's got at least what the first five?

644
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:11.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Brad Kaya, Yeah, I mean that's.

645
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 5>Probably the best one. And that's insane.

646
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Brad, Sorry, Brad Kaya.

647
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 5>He was a nice guy. I enjoyed covering him. Look,

648
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, so yes, I mean there, it's just such

649
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 5>a huge step up. And did I expect this?

650
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 6>You know?

651
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 5>I thought he would be very good, because everybody that

652
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.759
<v Speaker 5>I'd talked to said he's very very good. And I

653
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 5>got to know him a little bit as a person

654
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 5>this offseason, and you can see the personality like it is,

655
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.359
<v Speaker 5>it's real. So you you know, I thought that's a

656
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 5>good fit in Miami. All of that works out. But

657
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 5>I think what's really probably under talked about here is

658
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 5>that for all of the hand ringing over the final

659
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 5>record for Miami the last couple of years, it really

660
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 5>was sort of going a bit unnoticed how much talent

661
00:29:55.279 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 5>Mario Crystobaal was acquiring to surround this great quarterback. And

662
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.440
<v Speaker 5>so you know, I think cam Ward is not a

663
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.160
<v Speaker 5>markedly better player today than he was at Washington State,

664
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<v Speaker 5>but he has a much better supporting cast in Miami,

665
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 5>and that is part of it too, Mario. Look, you know,

666
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 5>people can can knock him for his game day coaching.

667
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 5>I think that's there's enough evidence that that's not wrong.

668
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 5>But the dude like eats, sleeps, and breathes recruiting. I mean,

669
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 5>he loves recruiting the way anybody else loves the thing

670
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 5>that they love most in their lives. Like there is

671
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:33.119
<v Speaker 5>nothing he loves more than recruiting, and he has really

672
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.319
<v Speaker 5>added to the talent level and people are forgetting. Like

673
00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.200
<v Speaker 5>coming into the season set aside cam Ward, you probably

674
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:42.279
<v Speaker 5>would have said the two top NFL prospects at Miami

675
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 5>were Ruben Bain their defensive linemen, and Jalen Rivers their

676
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 5>left tackle. Those two guys have missed the bulk of

677
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.119
<v Speaker 5>the season, like they're just getting back to healthy now.

678
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 5>So like it is, it is a very good football

679
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.759
<v Speaker 5>team around cam Ward too. And then when you take

680
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.480
<v Speaker 5>a genuinely magical player and put him at the most

681
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 5>important position surrounded by good players, the ceiling becomes awfully high.

682
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<v Speaker 7>Now.

683
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<v Speaker 5>I think, as we've said, from these last two games,

684
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:08.759
<v Speaker 5>the floor might be a little lower than some of

685
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.759
<v Speaker 5>those other top ten teams, but the ceiling is ridiculously

686
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:12.559
<v Speaker 5>high from Miami.

687
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<v Speaker 2>David Hale is our guests joining us here on Sports

688
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Talk seven to ninety talking about this matchup between Louisville

689
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and Miami coming up on Saturday. From the Louisville side

690
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>of it, I mean, I feel, as somebody who's watched

691
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:24.839
<v Speaker 2>every second of them the first two games, you kind

692
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of throw them away because of the opponents. But certainly

693
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 2>an encouraging sign when it comes to personnel, and I

694
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>still feel that way despite them having the lost in

695
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame, the lost SMU. I think Tyler Shuck's been

696
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>a really nice addition for Jeff Brom. Isaac Brown's one

697
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>of the best freshmen in the country. I think ja

698
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Cory Brooks has been just what you thought you would

699
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:44.359
<v Speaker 2>get from a guy who was previously catching touchdown passes

700
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 2>from Bryce Shung and Alabama. Defensively, you've dealt with some

701
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>injuries and they've just kind of been a mess. But

702
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I just you know, this Louisville team, I still feel

703
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:55.119
<v Speaker 2>as if they knock off anybody left on this schedule,

704
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be a huge shock because they

705
00:31:57.039 --> 00:31:58.799
<v Speaker 2>I think they do have some decent person now certainly

706
00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 2>some weaknesses, no doubt. The old lines not been probably

707
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>what Jeff Brom wanted.

708
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 7>It to be.

709
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.240
<v Speaker 2>But to see them here with these two losses, knowing

710
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>they've made so many avoidable mistakes, if you just take

711
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 2>like one or two of those mistakes away in those

712
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>two games that you lost, like you could probably still

713
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.599
<v Speaker 2>be a team that's six and ohero But yet you

714
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.039
<v Speaker 2>know you have to get better. It's been a really

715
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>weird year for Louisville thus far. I don't think fans

716
00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 2>are totally dejected, as we discussed it as a sellout,

717
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.799
<v Speaker 2>but I think what has kept Louisville from having a

718
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>better record at this point is not what anybody would

719
00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 2>have expected. And that's just a team that continues to

720
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>hurt themselves. That happens from time to time. But just

721
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of your thoughts on Jeff brom in year two,

722
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, having a team that's sloppy, that

723
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>does make avoidable mistakes more often than most well.

724
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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, frankly, luck is a bigger part of

725
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.640
<v Speaker 5>outcomes of games than anybody wants to talk about. Or

726
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 5>if it's not luck, then it's these very small minor errors.

727
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.440
<v Speaker 5>I mean, look, we just decided Oregon must be the

728
00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.759
<v Speaker 5>number two team in the country in Ohio. State's not

729
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 5>as good because of their quarterbacks slid a second too late.

730
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 5>If you had split a second earlier, maybe the conversation different.

731
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.519
<v Speaker 5>So like, that's what the margin is sometimes. And I

732
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:04.480
<v Speaker 5>think you go back and look at that Notre Dame game,

733
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 5>they were one of five on fourth down. If they're

734
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 5>two of five on fourth down, I think they probably

735
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.039
<v Speaker 5>win that football game. So like, the margins are not big,

736
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 5>and frankly, you know, in year one under Jeff Brumm,

737
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 5>the coin tosses largely went Louisville's way until the very

738
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 5>end of the year. And some of that is, you know,

739
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.480
<v Speaker 5>aggression to the mean this year, as the math nerds

740
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 5>like to say. But I think this is a better

741
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:28.319
<v Speaker 5>team than last year or overall. And you're right to

742
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 5>point out, you know, the injuries on defense, that they

743
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:33.759
<v Speaker 5>were healthier last year, and sometimes bad luck happens with

744
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 5>just injuries and the old line is not as good.

745
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 5>I think sustaining drives is by far the most important thing.

746
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 5>Like you can't have dumb turnovers in the red zone,

747
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 5>and you've got to be able to convert on some

748
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 5>of those third downs they think they're they're punt Like

749
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 5>three in a punt rate is I think the lowest

750
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.400
<v Speaker 5>in the ACC this year, and it's been good even

751
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.440
<v Speaker 5>in the last few games where they haven't played at

752
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 5>their best. It's not sustaining these drives. They're not either

753
00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 5>getting the chunk play they need to score or they're

754
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 5>they're marching halfway down the field and then stalling out

755
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.759
<v Speaker 5>and it's you've got to be able to put the

756
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 5>points up at the end of a good drive, and

757
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 5>that's where I think too many opportunities have been missed.

758
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 7>And again, the.

759
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.239
<v Speaker 5>Margin is small, so it's not like they've got to

760
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 5>reinvent the wheel to go in a real run. And

761
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, if you told me they went out, I

762
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.840
<v Speaker 5>wouldn't be shocked by that. I don't think that there's

763
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 5>a game on the schedule to your point that they

764
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 5>can't win. They might not be favored in all of them,

765
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 5>but I think they're certainly good enough to be in

766
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:31.480
<v Speaker 5>to be competitive in every game they have left.

767
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 2>And what you've seen from these two teams up to

768
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.320
<v Speaker 2>this point, what would you say is the biggest thing

769
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.360
<v Speaker 2>about Louisville that could potentially give this Miami team some problems?

770
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.639
<v Speaker 2>If it's late and it looks as if Louisville maybe

771
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>isn't in command at the game, but they've been the

772
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 2>better team and if they hold on, they win. What

773
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.599
<v Speaker 2>do you think was the biggest thing And I'm asking

774
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you to predict the future here, but something that could potentially,

775
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, put Miami in a spot they hadn't been

776
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 2>yet this year.

777
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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, so I think there's two things. One is

778
00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 5>sort of what I alluded to before, is that the

779
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 5>beauty of cam Ward is the can turn anything into

780
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 5>a positive play. But I think his confidence in doing

781
00:35:04.679 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 5>that has sometimes led him to maybe do a little

782
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 5>too much, hold onto the ball too long, try to

783
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.920
<v Speaker 5>force the throw that he shouldn't, so Louisville can can

784
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:15.559
<v Speaker 5>force him into a big mistake and capitalize on it.

785
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 5>Like those are the things that will dictate who wins

786
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.840
<v Speaker 5>close games. But the other big thing is Miami's If

787
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 5>they've got a weak spot, it is their secondary and

788
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.280
<v Speaker 5>it's been exposed a little bit over the last couple

789
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 5>of weeks by Fernando Mendoz and Kyen Drones. Well, Tyler

790
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.880
<v Speaker 5>Shuck's a better quarterback than either of those guys, so

791
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, I think that Miami can be exposed downfield.

792
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.119
<v Speaker 5>The question to me is is the Louisville O line

793
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:41.280
<v Speaker 5>good enough to give Tyler Shuck the time for some

794
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.719
<v Speaker 5>of those routes to developed to expose Miami secondary. So

795
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:47.320
<v Speaker 5>that to me is everything, Like if you can give

796
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.360
<v Speaker 5>Shuck the extra second in the pocket so that he

797
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:53.360
<v Speaker 5>can look downfield, I think that is a winnable matchup.

798
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:55.880
<v Speaker 5>For Louisville that can help dictate a win for them.

799
00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 5>But again, I it's it's sort of like Miami weakness

800
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 5>is the secondary. Louisville's weakness is that O line, and

801
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 5>so whose weakness steps up a little bit more in

802
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 5>this game I think is going to be critical.

803
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:11.639
<v Speaker 2>David, appreciate the time, always good stuff, and I hope

804
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 2>we see a competitive game. And I'm glad you're gonna

805
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:15.000
<v Speaker 2>be here in Louisville. Hope you enjoy yourself.

806
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:15.400
<v Speaker 3>My man.

807
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to have a bourbon or two just to

808
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:20.719
<v Speaker 5>make sure that I enjoy myself regardless of the outside

809
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:21.280
<v Speaker 5>outcover of the gain.

810
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 2>That's a good strategy that seems to always work. So

811
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 2>have fun, man. Good to talk to your brother, yep.

812
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Take care. That's David Hale of ESPN.

813
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 2>Always appreciate him making time for us, and certainly some

814
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 2>good insight there when it comes to.

815
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Acc football quick break.

816
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back, very short segment here in the four

817
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour as we wrap it up, but we got

818
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<v Speaker 2>another hour to go, so stick around. It's Coffee and

819
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<v Speaker 2>Company Field bouth Thorns right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

820
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 2>That's right, Coffee and Company wrapping up the four o'clock hour.

821
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<v Speaker 2>No no time left here, But that's okay, you know,

822
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 2>it happens. It's really my fault, but you know it

823
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 2>was a coming hour. Yeah, yeah, we got delay with

824
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a phone issue, which we can blame it all on David,

825
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>which I mean it wasn't his doing, but I mean

826
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it was his phone's fault, Like he couldn't get called.

827
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<v Speaker 2>And where you call from like in there on that

828
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is that like an internet line, Like.

829
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<v Speaker 4>It's very unique, but it does act like a real

830
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 4>phone to where whenever I dial somebody out it rings

831
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<v Speaker 4>like you're calling somebody.

832
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just he's not the first person that that

833
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.079
<v Speaker 2>that's happened with. It's not common by any means, but

834
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<v Speaker 2>like it just didn't ring, Like his phone couldn't register

835
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>that somebody was trying to reach him. We didn't get

836
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.559
<v Speaker 2>like a busy signal or anything. So you know, thankfully

837
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<v Speaker 2>I just texted him like, hey man, we can't get

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Mind calling any call, but it did delay

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<v Speaker 2>us a little bit, and then we had callers in

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning segment, which you know, I try to give

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<v Speaker 2>everybody as much time as possible to you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>share their thoughts and ask their questions. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we have a very very brief segment here

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<v Speaker 2>to wrap up the four o'clock hour. But good news

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<v Speaker 2>is we've got the five o'clock hour coming your way

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot more to get into. We'll let you

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<v Speaker 2>hear from more. We will let you hear more from

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey, who of course had his press conference today

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<v Speaker 2>for the Basketball Media Day. And I'll just quit yapp

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<v Speaker 2>and so we can get this break out of the

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<v Speaker 2>way and hit the five o'clock hour with some momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Coffee and Company peeled by Thornton's right here on Sports

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