WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.960 You're ready to talk to some Atlanta Hawks offseason look ahead. 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.599 The long way, we have people asking about the Hawks 3 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.679 look ahead. I'm glad we didn't record it yet because 4 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:11.560 they did some stuff. They signed Cjy McCollum, they acquire 5 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:13.320 Andrew Wiggins, they pick up I think this is the 6 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.239 biggest news. Grant the team option on Mo Gay. I'm 7 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:21.839 gonna take us through their offseason vitals though. So as 8 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:24.519 of this moment, we have them about thirty five point 9 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:27.640 four million dollars above the cap. Everybody listen as we 10 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:29.280 go through it. I promise that we're going to get 11 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.320 to the reason why we have them there. That's roughly 12 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.640 five million below the tacks and thirteen point six million 13 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.840 dollars below the first apron. It's a fifteen player projection 14 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.600 that includes Jonathan Cominga's team option, the new CJ deal, 15 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.320 guaranteeing Buddy Heald, who pushed back to non guaranteed date, 16 00:00:45.399 --> 00:00:48.840 and all three of their draft picks. They will operate 17 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:52.240 over the cap even if they decline Jonathan Aminga's team option, 18 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:54.159 and they're hard capped at the first apron after the 19 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:57.280 Aaron Wigans trade, so they can't go over that thirteen 20 00:00:57.320 --> 00:00:59.439 point six million dollars in room right now they technically 21 00:00:59.479 --> 00:01:01.520 have beneath it. They can't go over that. They have 22 00:01:01.600 --> 00:01:03.920 the fifteen million dollar non tax player MLLE can't use 23 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:05.719 all of it as of now, but they could easily 24 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:07.760 use all of it. They could set themselves up for it. 25 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:11.120 They also have the Clint Capella TPE which expires on 26 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.599 July six that's six point seven million dollars. And they 27 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:16.959 have the four point five million dollar Kobe Bufkin TPE 28 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:21.280 that expires on September sixteenth, if they wanted to create 29 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:23.280 cap spase, which they really can't do anymore. Of those 30 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.799 who have needed to be renounced, notable free agents still 31 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:31.280 Jock Landale, Tony Bradley, gave Vincent are all unrestricted free agents. 32 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.640 They restricted free agents are Keaton Wallace and Christian Coloco. 33 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.239 They have a team option on Jonathan Comingda that's twenty 34 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:41.000 four point three million dollars. And then Buddy helds not 35 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:43.879 he has three million of his nine point seven million 36 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:47.400 dollar salaries guaranteed. They both collectively agreed to push back 37 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.000 the guaranteed date. I'm assuming till like June twenty ninth 38 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:54.719 or June thirtieth or something notable extension candidates. On Yeka 39 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:57.319 Kunglu I think is the There's others Buddy Heel and 40 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:00.000 Gave Vincent, but on Yaka Kungu's the most notable one. 41 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.480 He can sign a three year, seventy six point six 42 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.959 million dollar extension that would kick in twenty twenty eight. 43 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.280 In twenty twenty nine, which would be his age twenty 44 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:13.560 eight season, their first round pick overview, they owe their 45 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:16.639 twenty twenty seven pick to San Antonio, but they are 46 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:19.919 receiving the least favorable of Milwaukee's or New Orleans' pick 47 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:24.439 under top four protection in twenty twenty eight, swap rights 48 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:27.759 with the less favorable of Cleveland and Utah, and they 49 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:29.719 can as of right now, I believe trade up to 50 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:36.919 four future first round picks. Grant, let's start here with them. 51 00:02:37.280 --> 00:02:39.159 What's gonna happen with Johnathan comgas team option? 52 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:42.840 Well, according to the doc, they're gonna pick. 53 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:45.560 It up, So that's John's let's robot. 54 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:51.240 Well, yeah, I think I think keeping. So I think 55 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:54.360 picking it up and using it as part of just 56 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.360 matching salary in a trade, and to some extent I 57 00:02:56.400 --> 00:03:00.000 think that applies to Healed is certainly looks like an 58 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.639 option that they're entertaining right, otherwise they get could move. Well, 59 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:07.680 it's tricky because, as you noted too, they're gonna be 60 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.319 are they're in the tax either way? Correct? If they're 61 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.759 hard capped that they're hard capped at the first apron, 62 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.719 So they're not quite as like, you know, wildly flexible 63 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:22.599 as it might seem. I would suspect they pick it 64 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.759 up because they want to trade him, they want to 65 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:27.639 use them in a trade. That that seems like the 66 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:31.879 likeliest outcome to me. But I guess there's also the 67 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.560 possibility they agree, they decline it, and they agree to 68 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:38.919 a multi year deal at a lower annual value. But 69 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.400 I don't know which side. I think both sides kind 70 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:45.199 of hate that probably, so uh yeah, I think picking 71 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:46.960 it up, what do you think I. 72 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:49.039 Tend to agree with you? Is there? And there's no 73 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.599 way that they pick it up under the guys that 74 00:03:51.639 --> 00:03:54.879 this is a good basketball fit anymore, right with Dyson 75 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.919 Daniels being there, Jalen Johnson, Kingston Flemings. I think Kingston 76 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.360 Flemings and john think make are terrible fits. If you 77 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:02.240 have both those dudes coming off the bench and getting 78 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.120 minutes and we know that Cominga can't play with Dice 79 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.680 and Daniels. So if they put like this leads me 80 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.719 to what is my overarching question through like the entirety 81 00:04:10.759 --> 00:04:13.719 of this is could they just be plotting something big? Still? 82 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.399 I think you can look at the Aaron Wiggins trade 83 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.879 and say, oh, they're kind of setting modest expectations. They're 84 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:20.879 going to see what they have in Kingston Flemings. Just 85 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:22.399 see what they have in this group that closed the 86 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:24.800 season on such a hot streak. Maybe they're using part 87 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.279 of the non tax mle on a big man and 88 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.439 they're just rolling forward with that. But if you're picking 89 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.600 up Jonathan Cominga's team option, it's not that he showed 90 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:35.839 nothing with them. But I don't know that this is 91 00:04:35.879 --> 00:04:38.959 an asset preservation situation where were we can't let him 92 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:40.720 lock for nothing. That would be such a bad look. 93 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:43.639 Yeah, No, I mean they didn't really. I mean, yeah, 94 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.160 they didn't give up anything was Porzingis and healed. So 95 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:49.879 it's not like they're the pot committed to any any 96 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:52.800 real extent. I would say that the Hawks, I mean, 97 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:54.920 part of the reason we waited this long and part 98 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.279 of the reason I identified them early in the offseason. It's 99 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.680 just like a really interesting team is because they had 100 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.120 some flexibility that coming as option is part of that. 101 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:06.639 They had more cap space. I mean, McCollum's taking up 102 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.920 twenty one million of that, So the cap space route 103 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:14.639 is not really viable anymore, is not viable anymore. But 104 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.360 I don't think they've done anything to take themselves out 105 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:21.079 of the Oh they could really pull something significant off 106 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.319 realm right like that. Maybe that just means it happens 107 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.759 closer to the deadline than this offseason, but there's still 108 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:30.720 ways for them to put stuff together where you're bringing 109 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:34.439 back someone like Jalen Brown potentially, like there you could 110 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:36.279 it would be a I think it's a bit of 111 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.040 a stretch, just as I'm looking at some of the 112 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.360 numbers and like just how many bodies would have to 113 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:47.000 go out to reach that salary match. But I still 114 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.319 think there's a good chance that Atlanta. Atlanta's off season 115 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.639 won't just be well, we brought CJ back and we 116 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:54.800 got Wiggins and let's just see what that gets us. 117 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.120 You know, I feel like that's probably not it. 118 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.519 Do you think it's more like I kind of feel 119 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.920 as if they're headed down the path of we'll sign 120 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:05.759 a big and then that'll be it to where maybe 121 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.079 it's a big like Mitchell Robinson or Robert Williams the third. 122 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:10.920 But then you even have to ask, even as a backup, 123 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.240 do you like either one of those two alongside Jalen 124 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.600 Johnson and Dyson Daniels. I'd say Robert Williams the third 125 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:19.879 for sure, just because he's a better decision maker on 126 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:21.800 off as you could maybe play him next to on 127 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:25.079 Yaka kong Wu as well. But I think I think 128 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:28.040 that's the path there. You're right about the Jaylen Brown numbers. 129 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:31.240 It's Jonathan Kameninga and Zachary Resische gets you into the 130 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.639 thirty five plus range. Right, then you got to build bodies. 131 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:37.759 And so is Dyson Daniels going out in that? Probably so? 132 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.240 And does Boston want Dyson Daniels? You're not if you're 133 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.759 giving up on Yuka kong Wu in that deal, what 134 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.399 are we doing at the center spot? Right? 135 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:48.639 That's one where Boston is very interested if you if 136 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.319 a kong Wu is now on the table, because that's 137 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:52.639 that's one that's like, please get him to Boston. That's 138 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.199 just perfect for what they like to do. 139 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.000 What if it's Dyson Daniels A Kong Wu and like, 140 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.160 how many picks do you need? Do you need Kingston 141 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.680 Flemings in there? Don't? He doesn't feel like a Boston player. 142 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:07.519 I I imagine, Yeah, it's how many picks? Because I 143 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:11.240 got I do think I think Brown is gonna probably 144 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:16.519 cost a team? Should we say three? Real firsts? Like 145 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:20.240 if assuming it's not just the best the greatest salary 146 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.079 match and there's like a sled young player in there somehow. 147 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:26.399 And you have to say that for LaMelo balls, Charlotte 148 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:29.600 got the equivalent between nas Reed and that first and 149 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:35.439 those swaps two and a half. Probably, Oh you don't 150 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:36.399 think NOAs Reed is worth it? 151 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:38.160 Well, I guess if you count not like would nos 152 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.480 Reed get a first one and a half first? 153 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:42.439 Sure? 154 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:45.360 Yeah, that's about right, And you're gonna I have to 155 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.360 believe Brown is gonna cost more than that. 156 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:49.519 Right, So it's three plus a player at minimum, like 157 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:52.279 a player of repute at minimum. I don't know if 158 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:54.839 I liked John Brown for this team though, not that 159 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.720 I dislike him for it, but then it's you have 160 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.600 a lot of salary funneled into him, and I don't know, like, 161 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.759 then you're taking the ball out of Jalen Johnson's hands 162 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:04.839 probably a little bit more. 163 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:09.000 Yeah, well, I think I thought you were going to say, 164 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:12.680 because you don't like it, because he doesn't really address 165 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:16.720 unless you're good. Just he's he's gonna have as high 166 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:19.040 a usage as last year, and and the offense runs 167 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.120 through him pretty exclusively. If you believe in him in 168 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.839 that capacity, then maybe he does address the like we 169 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.279 need someone that really actually is like running the show, which, 170 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:33.320 as I'm saying it, for a lot of the year 171 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.120 for Boston last year. Then then then we have to 172 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.559 try it out. Though well they were better without him, yeah, 173 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:40.600 which we don't have to do with that. 174 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.200 We've kind of danced around mentioning them. But so what 175 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:45.399 are there you're looking We're looking at this roster. What 176 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:48.159 are their biggest needs. I think they don't need a 177 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.000 high end big man, but a different type of like 178 00:08:51.039 --> 00:08:54.080 an upgrade from the Jock Landale spot wouldrobably probably be nice. 179 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.120 Yeah, they need another big I think, although again I 180 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.240 just I really like a kong Wu. I think he's 181 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.799 he's a really good player, and he just that contract 182 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.080 is I mean, we can jump ahead. I would extend 183 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.159 him on that three for seventy six and a heartbeat, 184 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:10.399 that's like fifteen percent of the cap. I think, yeah, 185 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:13.360 so they didn't they need that. I guess you might still. 186 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:15.759 I mean, they still need a point guard, right. McCollum's 187 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.320 not a true point guard by any stretch. He's almost 188 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.639 thirty five. They got a ton of guys that are like, oh, 189 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:24.000 he's really good with the ball, like Alexander Walker or 190 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.879 Jalen Johnson. Like Jalen Johnson's assist numbers might lead you 191 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:29.960 to believe, well, we're good there, But I just don't 192 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.360 think you can't look at what happened with them last 193 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:35.399 season and say they're set as as far as playmaking 194 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:36.279 goes in the half court. 195 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:39.480 And also I do wonder though, so like what is 196 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:44.120 going to be their appetite for playing Kingston Plumbings. I 197 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:45.519 think that this is a team that you have. 198 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:48.080 To you have to give him a chance, right because 199 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.039 if it works, then you do you have addressed they need. 200 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:51.320 A little bit. 201 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.919 It's just I'm just the odds are overwhelmingly that he's 202 00:09:55.960 --> 00:09:57.519 not going to be good enough to do that as 203 00:09:57.559 --> 00:09:59.039 a rookie, just because he's a rookie. 204 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.279 Do they need this is a need is a strong word. 205 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:06.720 But should selling as high as they possibly can on 206 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:10.320 Zachary Resche be a priority if they're gonna bring Comingo back? 207 00:10:10.320 --> 00:10:13.200 Now you have Aaron Wiggins there, just like what Recesche 208 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.000 wasn't really playing by the end of last season. 209 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:17.559 That's the thing. You've already missed the window to sell 210 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:20.679 as high as you possibly could on him, so before 211 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:24.320 it gets worse, I guess, is really what you're asking. Yeah, 212 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.320 I would move him even if he like he'll he'll 213 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:30.320 get better, right, he will get better. He's still so young, 214 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:32.720 But what does that do for you as the Hawks 215 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.960 that have like several players that are better than him 216 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:39.639 now and are a big enough leap from where he 217 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:41.360 might get to in the next year or two that 218 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.399 they're gonna be better than him by the time he's 219 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.559 eligible to sign his next deal. So, like, I think 220 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.519 moving him makes a ton of sense, especially since, like 221 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:51.120 because of how high, because of being the number one pick, 222 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:54.879 his salary is actually like pretty substantial, right, Like, it's 223 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.399 not always easy to get a good salary match out 224 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.879 of a rookie scale deal, but one picks get paid 225 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:01.159 a lot. 226 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.399 Is there a reason that I think they need shooting 227 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:07.559 even though they were fourth and three point percentage last year. 228 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:11.320 You're gonna have to articulate it because they get it 229 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.159 from the five they and they get it from just 230 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.360 about every place but Dyson Daniels. 231 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.360 I guess, like, what's the caps lock shooter on this team, 232 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:23.600 assuming that Buddy Healed and Kispert aren't rotation guys. It's 233 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:29.799 satisfies that I guess he does. But is that a 234 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:33.360 nice it? Yeah? I mean maybe you're right. And they 235 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.639 do have Aaron Wiggins now, so they just I guess 236 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:38.200 they don't have a ton of shooting liabilities outside of 237 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:40.279 Dyson Daniels. But I don't look at this roster and say, 238 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:45.320 oh they they're They're just they have a bunch of snipers. 239 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:48.279 Just flamethrowers. Uh, Corey Kisbert, Sir, did you mention Corey Kispert. 240 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.320 I just don't think he's gonna he gonna play. 241 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:53.840 No Buddy Healed was he in the league for Yeah? 242 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:55.679 They have a lot of guy Yeah right, I I 243 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:59.600 I can understand that feeling. But yeah, Alexander Walker is 244 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.320 pretty out. I wouldn't put shooting that high on their list. 245 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:07.320 I think I think that's there are bigger needs for sure. 246 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.919 What's up, Fellasako? Do you want all of our episodes 247 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:14.440 ad free? Then please support the show by joining our 248 00:12:14.440 --> 00:12:16.799 Patreon or we have a YouTube membership program where there 249 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.879 are tiers that you could choose from bonus content, discord access, 250 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:23.399 merch codes, and draw our over under competition's mailbag priority. 251 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:25.320 Just a ton of stuff comes with a grant. Is 252 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:27.559 giddy with excitement at the fact. 253 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:29.919 I just know that you've promised to do a standing 254 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:33.279 backflip if enough people subscribe. 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Jalen Brown's really the 259 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.399 only one we mentioned, especially if you're looking at like 260 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.639 maybe big men dude, does there I mentioned RW three 261 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:50.679 mental problems And if you're signing another center as a backup, 262 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.840 are you more focused on what like the bigger, burlierness, 263 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:57.840 the versatility or do you want a floor space or 264 00:12:57.840 --> 00:12:58.919 what are you focused on there? 265 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.759 I think the bulk, you know, bulk offensive rebounding, like 266 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:05.600 that kind of thing, which is again just describing Robinson 267 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:10.440 or uh or or or Robert Williams a third trade wise, 268 00:13:10.720 --> 00:13:15.279 I mean that's harder. H Stewart would have been an 269 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.759 interesting player for them. I don't think Memphis is rerouting him, 270 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:21.360 although Memphis does sneakily have like a decent number of 271 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:24.159 bigs there. There's just a couple of them are hurt 272 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:36.279 all the time. Yeah, I don't know. Uh doesn't he's 273 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:38.279 just bring him back? Yeah, I don't. 274 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:38.559 I don't know. 275 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:41.399 I'm just trying to think of some like available centers. 276 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:46.080 Would you I'm blanking on trade candidates. No, I'm blanking 277 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.000 on trade candidates. Free agency is a lot easier. 278 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:51.360 Uh, would you like? Do you like how low end? 279 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:53.000 I guess you'd like you could look at Jayhoff or 280 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:56.320 Micah Potter. Maybe just bring back Jock Landale. At that point, 281 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.720 does Bobby Portis do anything for you? Miami is probably 282 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:02.399 looking to reroute him. 283 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.960 Well, Turner, I mean, if you think shooting is the problem, 284 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.759 Turner gets you there. But I don't know that Turner 285 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:12.600 is that any better? It costs like what seven million 286 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:14.639 more season or six or seven than than. 287 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:15.519 A Kong Wu. 288 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:18.039 I don't And he's not the bulk guy, Like who's 289 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:22.799 the who's the like? Road grading, you know, power just 290 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.080 conventional five that is actually still any good that they 291 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:26.759 could trade for. 292 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:28.919 What do you mean by like you want to post 293 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:29.399 that big? 294 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:36.240 Well okay, yeah, you go like size, size and rebounding, 295 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:37.600 just just be big. 296 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:45.519 We go Kaminga and kiss Bert for the bonas. They 297 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.320 shouldn't be an Anthony Davis team. 298 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:53.360 Right, No, I don't think so. I think that's anybody 299 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:57.720 I could Yeah, I think we do this all the time, 300 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:00.000 Like as the pendulum swung too far on Anthony David? 301 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:03.440 Is he actually way better than we discuss him? 302 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.559 Probably if he's healthy, but just the sheer amount of 303 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:09.679 contract need to cobble together to get him, unless they're 304 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:14.720 willing to take Buddy Heal kiss Bert back and then Jonathan. 305 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:18.960 It just gets so messy. Yeah, right, they could sign 306 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:23.559 use of nurkic uh moms Klavely is not really traditional, 307 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:25.440 but he provides stretching, maybe a little bit of driving. 308 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.360 Uh just okay, we're going through some more, Jared Allen, 309 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:34.200 I mean he's probably better than a kong Wu. I 310 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.279 don't know what you're giving. Well, you do over index 311 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.399 on like wings and stuff. So if you wanted to 312 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.799 throw somebody in there, and move Jared at move Mobilely 313 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.240 to the five in Cleveland? Could you get Jared Allen 314 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:51.159 with uh? Probably not with like Resa sche and something 315 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:54.039 or and picks would have to be involved in that. 316 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:55.919 I don't think they care about Resa Schey. You'd have 317 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:57.840 to like they don't want Dyson Daniels. 318 00:15:57.840 --> 00:15:58.120 I don't. 319 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.720 I don't think, although that we might be. I mean, 320 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:03.440 given if you move Overly to the five and you 321 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.480 trust him to shoot it, you have Daniels in there 322 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.399 to go all the all the players that Harden and 323 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.000 Mitchell can't. I don't know what you're doing at the four. 324 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:17.120 That's an interesting trade. I guess I was thinking more 325 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:20.639 lower end for the most part, because I assume I 326 00:16:20.679 --> 00:16:23.080 still prefer a Kung Wu like to the makeup of 327 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.440 this team than Jared Allen. You could play those two together, 328 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:28.000 but you can't play Jalen j You're not what are 329 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.720 you gonna play Jalen Johnson at the three? Then? So 330 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.720 you're not gonna start all three of those guys. I 331 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.440 don't think a couple should come off the bench. 332 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:38.000 Well then that's tricky, like are you like? So then 333 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:42.480 trading for that gets into so you're you're more in 334 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:46.080 like the ten to fifteen million dollars backup center range. 335 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:47.799 I guess that's what I say. You like, that's what 336 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:48.559 we're talking about. 337 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:50.840 Yeah, more like a change of pace can come in 338 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.600 and maybe he's just bigger than a Kung Wu who's 339 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:56.279 what six ten and he's kind of he's not like weak, 340 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.120 but he is on the slender side. 341 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.080 So then the question is who is that player that 342 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:05.559 warrants giving up something and is a big enough upgrade 343 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.799 over a minimum signing. You know, we're talking a backup center. 344 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.279 Like all we ever say is minimum signing backup centers? 345 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:12.759 Are you get a lot for your money? 346 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:16.759 There? I have it Kingston Flemings and Asa Newell for 347 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:21.680 Derek Queen. Who says no, that's I've never once thought 348 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.519 about that. Well, that's the exact package that was traded 349 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:26.440 for Derek Queen already, is why I mentioned it. 350 00:17:28.920 --> 00:17:32.720 I didn't even think about that. Uh who says, well, 351 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:35.640 Charlotte doesn't say no, Charlotte, I mean New Orleans doesn't 352 00:17:35.640 --> 00:17:38.359 say no. New Orleans wants to give you more for 353 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:39.640 Derek Queen s he's so great. 354 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.119 Go bear to the Hawks from how we are Bears? 355 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.000 That would be oh, my god, Barksdale corners that dominate 356 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.000 in the music, I mean an eight million. If he 357 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.200 ops in DeAndre, I probably don't want the vibes in 358 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:52.119 my locker room. If I'm Atlanta, I'm not gonna lie. 359 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.240 But Nicole we' entured regulator says vouch would be interesting. 360 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:58.640 All right, So now we're done. Now we're done with 361 00:17:58.680 --> 00:17:59.279 the discussion. 362 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:05.559 But those that that's the the skit, well not the 363 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:08.000 Derek Queen, but that's the scale of move I see them. 364 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.880 I don't think they're set up to if they wanted to, 365 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.440 they could do something big. I just don't see it. 366 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.519 Like you said, maybe it's closer to the trade deadline, 367 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:18.720 but it also is kind of feeling more like a 368 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:22.880 I'll drive him down if needed with representating. That's also 369 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.680 something that I could see them waiting until. Wow, the 370 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.519 ultimate vibes equals kminga for Zion. So kaminga and kiss 371 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:32.400 Bert and a pick for Zion. 372 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:34.640 There's your primary playmaker. 373 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.799 Let's go right, Jalen Johnson, you are now off the ball. 374 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:42.119 Uh yeah, but yeah, I don't expect it. I thought 375 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.759 they might be like setting themselves up to do something 376 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.039 big and then post Wigans CJ. MCCALUMNEYL I no longer 377 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.119 think that that's the case. Is where I'm sort of 378 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:51.640 at with them. 379 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:54.920 I'm not giving up hope it's less likely, but I 380 00:18:54.920 --> 00:18:56.920 even like them as a sneaky, honest team. But here 381 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:57.279 we are. 382 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:59.359 You know, he's been traded. I don't know. If you 383 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:03.640 heard my final thing on them, you kind of mentioned it, 384 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:08.039 would you you'd offer do on Yakakungu extension three year, 385 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:12.000 seventy six million dollars. Does on Yakokungu sign that extension? 386 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:15.880 Well, so that's about ten million more than he's on 387 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.720 the books for at the moment, right. I just closed 388 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.319 that tab where he's uh yeah, so he's like sixteen 389 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:27.079 next year, seventeen the following. That's a decent raise. I 390 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:32.920 guess the as I'm going through, he's twenty five. I 391 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:36.279 think I think Atlanta should and and will offer that. 392 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:38.759 I just wonder if he thinks he can do better, 393 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:42.839 and I think he might be right. So yeah, I 394 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:46.960 think I think he The trajectory is pretty promising at 395 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.119 the moment. So like more than double his three point 396 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.640 volume per game last year, so right around double if 397 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.279 you're doing like per possession or per per hundred. I think, 398 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:59.519 I think if he if he has another year like 399 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:01.599 this one where it's like, oh, this guy is a 400 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.400 thirty seven thirty eight percent three point shooter and he's 401 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.720