Speaker 1: W n rip the why why.
Speaker 2: Did you do this to us? I? I gave you
a mas riised?
Speaker 3: Do you remember when you said I've never hurt you
like it?
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: You? I?
Speaker 2: I I again.
Speaker 1: And I'll say I'm okay, but I.
Speaker 5: Always feel this way, and I'll say.
Speaker 6: I'm all right, but I'll always wonder why I can
give them all my half food?
Speaker 3: It's never enough?
Speaker 7: Did she harmony give them a missing something?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Why would you tell me I'm the one.
Speaker 3: Just for you.
Speaker 1: To go and tear this whole thing up?
Speaker 8: I know I wasn't perfect, but I loved you with
my best Oh yes side.
Speaker 5: And I'll say I'm okay, but I'll always feel this way,
and I'll say.
Speaker 1: I'm all right, but I'll always.
Speaker 7: Wonder why I can give them a half boo. It's
never enough to treat her morning? Give them a missing
some bad.
Speaker 3: Sudden a thing. God'll never be good enough? The same
old story escape ugh.
Speaker 5: And I'll say I'm okay, but I'll always feel this way,
and I'll.
Speaker 7: Say I'm all right, but I'll always wonder I can
eat them on half food. It's never enough? Did she
her morning give him a missing something?
Speaker 1: What's wrong?
Speaker 3: With my love?
Speaker 9: What's wrong with my love?
Speaker 3: Will I ever be?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 11: Oh? That is beautiful?
Speaker 12: Am I missing something? That is Rebecca Turmel and this
is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We are well into our third
hour New Marrow Trace here on this Saturday, October twenty six,
twenty twenty four. Almost forgot what yeah of the month
it was, Jenny. That's weird of.
Speaker 11: Me considering it's your part.
Speaker 12: I know, I know, but we we are live, We
are live here and thank you again, of course you
are October sun.
Speaker 11: Is great to see those guys in the second hour.
Speaker 12: In the first hour we had Plague Dad and now
joining us alive in studio here for the third hour
we have Rebecca Turmel.
Speaker 11: Hello, welcome, Well, I can't hear you. Why can't I
hear you? Let's try that. Oh gorgeous there there she is. Okay,
I can hear you now. Hi, Welcome to the show, Rebecca.
Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you for having me. It's it's awesome
to be here. Yes, talk music.
Speaker 11: And no, wonderful, wonderful to have you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's that's a beautiful song you had mentioned, uh
off air, I think something about is that the first
song you recorded.
Speaker 9: Yes, So that's the first song that I went into
the studio with. I was terrified. My guitar had never
been in a recording studio. Yeah, that was a little
over two years ago. Now I released that and Jil
of twenty twenty two, so it's it's been a bit
and it's been a journey so far.
Speaker 11: Where did you record that?
Speaker 9: I record that at the Underground in Randolph, Vermont with Vincent.
He's incredible and such a great space over there.
Speaker 12: Now, how did you How did you come to record there?
Because you know, you've got so many options as far
as studios or or even home recording or there's so
many different ways now to record.
Speaker 11: What led you to record there?
Speaker 9: I well, first of all, I know absolutely nothing about
recording any of that fun stuff. So a good friend
of mine who I brought the song to, Jim Yeager.
He's been in the music industry for well over forty
years now. He recommended Vinnie because I just needed a
place where I could feel comfortable because I was so
frightened to get into the studio for the first time. Yeah,
so he's like, get us to the other ground. It's
a great spot and they have a great acoustic sound.
So I'm like, all right, let's do it. And I
ended up falling in love with the space and I'm
really glad with that choice that I made to go
to the Underground.
Speaker 12: Yeah, now, did you because you sent us a couple
other songs? Who were these all recorded there?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 9: Actually, I actually I've had the privilege of getting I
got to record at Blackbird's studio in Nashville. But I
also have recorded up Squam Sound with Randy Ruse. I've
kind of tried a few different spaces and actually just
this week I was at the Studio Portland in Portland,
Main Oh, no kidding, So I just I like to
try a new space with mostly each song, but wish
you well. I also recorded at the Underground as well.
Speaker 12: The studio in Portland was that because John MacArthur. I
think that's how we met. We met you through John, Yes, yes?
Is that the studio where it's him and his son?
Speaker 9: I think yes, yes. Oh, the Sam MacArthur and John
and his wife Weaver are also the co owners of
that studio. Okay, but they do a great monthly event
for singer songwriters in duo acts. You can go in
and get a video live video and a live recording
on one take in one night. But it's also an
in studio audience in there too, so you get like this,
it's awesome.
Speaker 11: Is it intimidating to do that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's a very small space.
Speaker 11: Right right, Yeah, but it.
Speaker 9: Was really cool because you got to just live in
the moment with the music, but capture it as well
and like with that professional sound in that professional video.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So you get a little bit of everything, which is nice,
and especially when I'm a working a full time working
musician need a lot of content, video content and stuff
for my ePK. It was great to do.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no doubt now you So I read your bio.
Did you start out doing covers and then started doing originals?
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I've been. Actually I just hit my seven
year anniversary of playing out.
Speaker 11: Oh congratulations.
Speaker 9: I started off as a cover artist, a giga musician.
My first gig was in my hometown at this Irish
plub I worked at. It was Kathleen's now it's Kathleen's
Irish Pub and I just I did that for a while.
I would take songs that I loved, songs that were
meaningful to me, and tried to make them my own, yeah,
make performance with it. And I finally decided, Okay, I
need to try writing my own stuff and seeing how
that feels like. And it's definitely an entirely different experience.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's interesting because for a lot of singer songwriters,
you know, a lot of people we talked to on
the show, they start out with original music and then
they wind up doing covers live because they kind of
have to because it helps, you know, as far as
getting gigs, and that's what a lot of venues want.
So it's interesting for you it kind of went the
other way. I mean, was it always your plan to
ultimately do your own material or not?
Speaker 9: Really? It honestly wasn't even my plan to do music
to begin with. I usually started off in the theater. Okay,
so when I was a little girl at my first show,
I think I was like nine years old, but I
fell in love with performing, being on stage and in call.
I dabbled with my guitar in high school, but I
didn't really do much with it. I picked it back
up and started playing songs and went to some open
mics with some friends, some other theater kids, and because
it's just fun, to do that stuff. Yeah, then I
was getting gig opportunities. People asked me to play at
their bars and restaurants, and it's just flourished into this
whole journey, not only musical discovery but self discovery as well.
Speaker 12: And to be able to do that full time. It
seems like this is because the other thing I was
surprised reading your bio, it seems like, in the grand
scheme of things, you haven't been at this that long,
but it seems like you've been able to really, you know,
have a lot of success very quickly with it, which
is great.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I feel extremely fortunate that the opportunities that have
come my way. It's it's just astounding to think of
how far I have come because I've only been doing
it full time for about two years now. Yeah, but
I have a really great support system. I've had some
wonderful mentors in my life that have really guided me
and helped me so far, and I think helps with
that trajectory to get yeah further along a little bit faster. Yeah,
of course, I'm always nos on the grindstone, just yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, Like like in terms of mentors, like like I
assume John MacArthur is one.
Speaker 9: Right, Oh yeah, and brad Myrick as well. I actually
am a self taught guitarist and I just recently decided, okay,
it's time I really understand what I'm doing, and I've
been diving into some guitar lessons as well.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But my my first mentor was also previously my manager,
was Jimmy Aeger, and he was a blessing to have
at the beginning because I've always like been so I'm
so nervous about everything all the time. I don't need
to be, but I am. It's just a trade of
mind I can't seem to get rid of. But he
did a really good job keeping me level headed and
just and being honest with me. So it's been nice
to have just people who are genuinely there and who care,
and it's just it's I'm so grateful for everyone I've had.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, how do you find how do you
find those people? Because I hear a lot of especially
young musicians, say it's hard to find mentors or people
they can really trust, Like have you just been fortunate
or do you have some kind of you know, are
you intuitive in a way where you know, Okay, this
person I think is going to help me in their
genuine and they, you know.
Speaker 11: Because there's a lot of I don't know sharks. I
don't know how else to put it.
Speaker 9: You know what I mean, I know exactly what you mean.
I think it's just been a mix of both just
being fortunate and also I just I really love being
a part of our music community, and I play a lot,
but when I'm not playing, I really try to get
out and see what else everyone else is doing, especially
the full timers, because it's hard. So I love to
show support. And with that, that's everyone that I've met
who's going to my life that has really been through,
like mutual music friends who have known them previously. So
that's how I ran into Jim. And I was performing
with a friend of mine. Uh, and he's just the
friendliest person there is. So he goes around and talks
to everybody, and yeah, I'm so glad that he introduced
himself to me, and I wanted to with him. I'm
missing something. I wanted an unbiased opinion, and I didn't
really know Jim that well at that point. Yeah, so
I sent him that song and he's like, don't release this.
Can I meet with you and I'm like, what do
you mean? And and he was just telling me how
he wanted to help and he didn't want like he
wished he had someone when he started out to not
make the same mistakes that he did, and having the
understanding of the industry, which is has changed so much,
it's constantly changing. Yeah, but someone just has the understanding.
So I've gotten lucky with meeting those people. It's just
so funny you meet one person and then someone else
comes into the picture. You can learn something from everyone,
Oh really can?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 12: I think I think so much of being successful is
is you know, putting out the right energy and attracting
people into your you know, into your career and into
your life, just generally who are also positive and uh
you know, and and you know, like you said, you know,
you meet one person and that leads to meeting another
person and another person and it sounds like you've you've
been able to meet uh people who are you know,
like I said, genuine and and kind of build that
support system. And like John MacArthur, we had him on
the show. It was a few months ago now, and
uh yeah he was great and just you know, just
so positive and you know, because there is a lot
of negativity too, in the sense that especially for for
people who've been around a while, like like I have,
the industry has changed a lot, you know, as technology
has changed, the industry has changed, and you know, and
there there is a lot of there's a lot of negativity.
There's a lot of frustration, and and I think it's
easy to get jaded, which a lot of people, you know,
a lot of people do. Meanwhile, they're not sharks, they're
just jaded, you know what I mean. So, so to
be able to surround yourself with with positive people who
want what's best for you and who want want what's
best for the sea and really kind of see it
as a community, I think is really important.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree with you. There there's if we're not
connected with each other. To me, it's nothing is ever
a competition either, and everyone has something to offer as
a musician, and I really respect and admire anybody who
just does this in any way, shape or form. Yeah,
so I always I have I feel like I do
have a good sense of just like understanding people and
where they're coming from. Like you were saying, it is
really hard to to not get take things personally, especially
if someone doesn't like your music or your sound. Sure sure, so,
Like you said, surrounding yourself with like a positive group
of people who are going after the same thing, or
I try to surround myself with people who are in
a place that I want to be or a level
that I'm not at yet. I just love I love
I love learning. I just want to learn from everyone.
Speaker 12: You just said something very important because what a lot
of people don't understand, and this this supplies not just
in music, but in so many things. People get frustrated,
People get envious of people who are doing better than
they are, and so I think people will often miss
an opportunity to learn from someone because they're frustrated that
they're not where that person is, where they think they
should be. And it's important to you know, the way
I tend to think of it, as you know, I mean,
there are people who are you know, I do a
few different things, and there are people who are far
more successful at these things than I am. But I
look at those people and I try to take inspiration,
try to learn from them. But also if they can
do it, then that's proof of concept, you know, because
none of it it's nothing is a zero sum game.
Life is not a zero sum game. The music industry
is not a zero some game. Just because somebody is
doing better doesn't mean you're automatically doing worse. Really, it's
an opportunity for you to learn from them and to
kind of maybe try to model what they do or
follow their example whatever it is, you know, or just
you see them succeed and it's like, Okay, well if
they can do it, I can do it, you know,
And to really and to really kind of remember that
and keep that in mind.
Speaker 9: Oh definitely.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And everyone has their own path in this industry in particular,
it's different for everyone. And what I'm learning too is
success for everyone is different. We define success differently, So
I'm really trying to figure figure it right now what
what successful means to me and and kind of let
that guide me as well, because what's working for someone
else may actually may not work for me. So I
think it's just in terms two of thinking what a
success to you? And right now, if I could pay
my bills with my music, that is success. I'm so
fortunate for that. I count my blessings because you also
don't know how.
Speaker 11: Long it's gonna last sure, sure, Yeah.
Speaker 9: It's all unknown. Every day is unknown, which makes it
exciting but also terrifying.
Speaker 11: What has surprised you?
Speaker 12: Are there things that have surprised you just in terms
of are there things about about your career where you
kind of go, Okay, I didn't think this would be
like this.
Speaker 11: I didn't think, Uh, I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 12: I didn't think that, you know, whatever it is, it
could even be something negative, like I didn't think, you know,
Spotify would pay so poorly or whatever it is. Like,
are there things even counter that have really been a
surprise to you?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean there's always surprises around every corner. Yeah,
but with this, I think I've just been really surprising
my myself. I haven't really I didn't really realize what
I've I was capable of, because I've I'm always such
like a nervous and shy person. I'm I look at
myself as like an introverted extrovert, Like I actually have
a really hard time with performing, which has always surprised
me because I loved the theater of being on stage. Yeah,
but that was that was down that I think about
it Probably the first most kind of like shock factor
for me. When I got on stage for the first time,
I was my guitar. I'm like, oh, I'm not a character.
I'm not playing somebody interesting. This is me, and you
can't I mean, you can't act unless you want to
try to be a different persona. But it's it's a
goal of mine to always be as authentic and just
be myself and and hope that's enough. But that was
that was really shocking to me to just be like,
whoa this is. It's a completely different game than I
thought it was performance wise, But there's there's just been
a lot of different experiences that I have that have
been surprising, Like like Jim challenged me, he was like
got me down to Blackbird Studio in Nashville, and thinking,
like I had so many thoughts of what that experience
was going to be like and how those people, uh,
what they were going to be like all my session
musicians and my producer, and I did get to meet
John McBride too, which was really cool. But I was
just shocked at how down to earth and humble all
those guys were and inviting and warm and welcoming. I
was so scared for absolutely no reason. Yeah, I was
treated with respect, which is refreshing in an industry where
people always you never know, right, like we were talking
about earlier. But I think it's there's just been so
many surprises, but beautiful surprises too.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and just again it goes back to discovering myself.
I don't really I'm still finding myself. I just turned
twenty seven, so I still feel like I'm I'm still
a kid, right, No, it's better starting to figure it out.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 12: The Nashville perspective is interesting. We've we've had a lot
of guests on the show who you know, they talk
about going to Nashville and how intimidating it is, you know,
because it's Nashville, but you know, they find people who
or they have you know, usually if someone has some
sort of a connection already in Nashville, you know, it's
it's hopefully it's going to be a positive experience, and
it usually turns out to be. But it's you know,
that's that's pretty intimidating. You know, it sounds really scary
to me. Is like those songwriting circles, and I'm sure
those happen. I know they happened in New York City too,
But but Nash. I mean that sounds like really intense pressure.
I don't know if you had an opportunity to do
that when.
Speaker 11: You were there.
Speaker 9: No, I did not perform when I was down there.
I was just in the studio and I'm glad I
didn't because I definitely am not ready for the Yeah,
it's like you said, it's intimidating.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Those are some of the best people in the game.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but then again I come up here in New
Hampshire and we also have the talent is in my
opinion at at some of the same level. Yeah, it's
not directed to one location, but it was cool to
go experience it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you though. It's like,
you know, any anywhere. I mean, we have an incredible
music scene here, but I would also say that's probably
the case anywhere, Like any anywhere in the world, there's people,
you know, That's the thing. We're fortunate to live in
an era where, because of the Internet, you know, you
can find music for anywhere in the world and find
something you like. You know, there's we live in an
amazing time in that sense, because like Jenny and I
are old enough to remember when you know, you go
to the you go to the record store, and you
flip through and you find stuff, and you know, now
you can just go online find anything you want. You know,
I mean literally, you know any genre and you know
you want to hear some Norwegian speed metal, well you can.
You can go online and google that and find some
and you might find something you like. You know, it's
it's it's really a remarkable time that way. I feel
like too. In music, people are just generally musicians creative
types are just generally more supportive. I often draw a
contrast with stand up comedy. Now, I have no experience
in stand up comedy. I'm not a comic, but I
some of the podcasts that I've fallen into listening to
over the years are hosted by comics. And my impression
of stand up comedy is that it's very cutthroat and
everyone kind of secretly hates each other and sometimes it
spills out into the open and it's But with music,
I feel like all genres too. I feel like like
people are just generally more supportive and want to see
other people succeed and and want to want to help
each other, and there's much more of a sense of community.
Speaker 9: Definitely, And that was honestly a big reason too why
I made that transition from theater to the music, because
I felt more of a warm and welcoming community. Yeah,
it's it's hard with professional theater. It's it's very competitive
and like everything matters like inside and out, like and
you've got to be a triple threat. And I've never
just been into competition. Yeah, just so when I was
started out and playing out live and the the amount
of support that I got despite not being that good
when I first started, I look back at somebody was like,
oh my gosh, but we all get to start somewhere.
Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 9: So, Yeah, it's just that when people are warm and
welcoming it it helps everybody in the long run. We
all need to support each other and be a part
of it together because they can be isolating. We're all
on the road by ourselves, so when you can get
together or watch someone else, it's so important to make
those connections.
Speaker 12: By the way you use the term triple threat, I
think I've heard that before apply to theater. Is that
let me let me see if I if I have
it right?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 11: You got to be able to sing, dance, and act,
you got it.
Speaker 9: I could not do the dance part.
Speaker 11: Did you do theater for a long time?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I actually I was in the theater program up
in Plmoth State University and I did some shows at
like in the Interlake Summer Theater. There was a professional
theater out of like the Tilt and prep school. So
I was in both like community and professional stage shows. Yeah,
which was really cool. And again, like those difference in
communities in the support system. Community theater is in my opinion,
so important Yeah, ef fort to have in every every city,
every town that it was just so important to my
development growing up. Yeah, and just having the.
Speaker 11: Arts, Yeah, you need them absolutely.
Speaker 12: So without that experience, you might not be doing what
you're doing now, I would assume, Yeah.
Speaker 9: I probably wouldn't. I don't think i'd have the ability to.
It's hard to step on stage.
Speaker 11: Sure, sure does that work for it? So I don't
do it anymore.
Speaker 12: I used to play in bands, and for me, it
was always because I'm an introvert. But which is surprises
some people when they hear me say that because I
do this, But it's like, yeah, but if you really understand,
because extroverts don't understand what being an introvert really is
in some ways. But but for me, it was always
with playing out. It was like I would be very
anxious right up to the moment of getting on stage.
Once I was on stage, I just all that fell away.
Although I never did what you so. I always played
in bands, So when you're a dude and a band
with a bunch of dudes.
Speaker 11: It's a little different, you know what. It's safer, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 12: I was the bass, Like, if I'm a bass player
in a rock band, there's you know, and other bass
players might not like when I say this, but there's
not a lot of pressure really because the attention is
not on me when I'm on stage well doing what
you do, the attention is all on you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's scary, especially being by yourself. Yeah, and I've
really had to work on being confident with my guitar,
being self taught, yeah, and trying to figure that out too.
But it's I think, no matter what, it's just a
step foot on stage on any type of stage, no
matter if it's twenty people, one hundred and fifty people.
To me, it's always scary, like you're saying, I still
get that, like I despite seven years up until like
I'm on stage, it takes me a little bit to
settle in. But then once I do and get comfortable, yeah,
it kind of fades away. Yeah yeah, but I'm also
a perfectionist. I nip everything, so I try. I got
to like find a way to escape and get out
of my head. And it's so fure because the music
does that for me. Yeah, I garret of those I'm
just okay, what's the music that I'm playing? What's the
story I'm telling?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 12: You kind of want to be a little anxious, right,
Like in a way, it's you know, it might not
be the most pleasant thing to feel that nervousness, but
if it went away, wouldn't you kind of miss it?
Because then it's like, because any you might start wondering,
I don't know, is this exciting to me still? Or
am I am I getting complacent?
Speaker 11: You know?
Speaker 9: You make a good point there, ya Does the nerves
tell us that we care and it's important to us.
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 9: And maybe that's why I haven't lost it because every
day I don't, this just gets more meaningful to me
because I've been doing it for so long now and
chasing something kind of not really still not knowing what
I'm chasing. Yeah, and just all I know is I
want to have a career in music, right, But you
could do so much with that, right, But yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I because I had moments.
Speaker 12: I remember, you know, there were a couple of shows
along the way where I I wasn't nervous before, but
I look back and I realized, well, that's because there
were shows where maybe there was hardly anyone there. So
it's like, well, I kind of takes the pressure off
when you're playing to an empty room. It's like there's
nobody here, but you know, but then we'd play a
show where there were people, and I'd get nervous again,
and it's like, okay, good good, it's still there. But yeah,
I'd like I'm I'm very much an introvert. But for me,
it's like I'm much more comfortable being on stage or
any kind of performance element.
Speaker 11: That's where I feel the safest. You know, whether it's.
Speaker 12: Being on stage, playing in a band, or being behind
a microphone doing a radio show, or public speaking doesn't
phaze me at all, actually enjoy it. I'm I feel
more comfortable speaking in public than I do just having
a conversation with.
Speaker 11: Somebody, and I mean, I'm you know I can do.
Speaker 12: I used to be very socially awkward, but I dealt
with that. But but but ultimately, like this is where
I feel the safest behind this microphone.
Speaker 11: You know what I mean? Does that make sense?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 9: Sure does. I know exactly what you mean and it
and people don't understand it that don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 9: You're scared to get there? You're or you sing so well,
or you you've been doing this for so long, And
I'm like I it doesn't matter every time. I'm still
just so terrifying, right right. I actually had the first
opportunity to open for someone thanks to the New Hampshire
Music Collective. Yeah, John MacArthur. I got to open up
for John Gorka the Bank and Ham and it was incredible.
And I really didn't think I was. I was trying
to keep myself congcous. I knew I was gonna be nervous. Yeah,
and I got up there. All I had to do
was play for twenty minutes. I play for three hours
almost every day. All of a sudden, Yeah, but I
got so incredibly nervous. I had to run off stage
and immediately throw up. I will how much I was
worked up. Thank god nobody could tell.
Speaker 11: You you mean at the end of the site.
Speaker 9: Wow, and thank god I have run around the Yeah,
And in my head, I'm like, why it's so scared
Because I have been doing this so long and it
was my own I'm wondering if it was with my
own music. But I'm just finding that maybe it's just
for me. But I don't think it's going to go away.
Those nerves are always going to be there. But I
just I care so deeply, and I also just want
to create an experience for anyone that's at one of
my shows, even if it's just to escape or or
to get out whatever you're feeling that heartbreak they just
went through. Sometimes you just need to hear that sad
song or something. But yeah, I think I will forever
be nervous.
Speaker 12: Unfortunately, Have you gotten an open for for anybody else
like that, like John Gorka?
Speaker 9: No, that's that's it so far. I hope too. That's
my goin in the future to do more of that.
I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 11: Do you have like a kind of a dream idea
of who you'd really like to open for. Is there
someone you just think would be.
Speaker 9: Would love to open up for? Liz Longly So she's
one of my favorite singer songwriters.
Speaker 11: Not familiar with her.
Speaker 9: She I think she's from Pennsylvania, but she's in Nashville.
It's kind of like an Americana artist, but she does
a little bit of everything. But I saw her live
at the Tupelou Music Hall. I just wanted to go
to a show. I had the night off. I never
get Fridays or Saturdays off. I think this was like
that's probably four years ago now. Yeah, and I saw
it was a female artist, and if I get a chance,
like I always try to find someone that I can
just go for inspiration or just to see what someone
else is doing. Yeah, And I absolutely fell in love
with her in the way that she told her stories
and her songs just had a great sound. But I
absolutely adore her and her one of her songs is
actually what inspired me to write my own And am
I missing something? So if I could open up for
her one day that I think I could fit well
into into like her sound too, like we'd pair well.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, oh very cool.
Speaker 9: Maybe one day.
Speaker 12: If you're just joining us. Rebecca Turmelo is here with
us live in studio. Have you is anyone reached out
to her like to try to, you know, like maybe
John or somebody like just kind of.
Speaker 9: I would like to, but I think I'd be too
scared to do it right now, you know what I mean.
But it's Liz Longley. I need to be ready because
actually so I'm in a duo partner with I'm So Lucky,
My my, my boyfriend, and musical genius all in one.
We played together all the time. Oh, we saw her
when she came to The Flying Monkey at the beginning.
It was March I think this year, and he's like,
you have to go talk to her. She came out
after the show. Oh really, I my first experience with
like getting starstruck. Yeah, yeah, like is this what it
feels like? But she he told her that we always
play her song Camaro's. This song is incredible in terms
of like the lyrics and the story's story I can
relate to. And she's like, oh, send me a video
when you get the chance. So every time we play it.
Now I've been taking a video and I'm like, when
it's right, maybe we'll send it over to her see
what happens, and maybe that could be the opportunity.
Speaker 12: That could be No, that could very well, that could
very well be an n So. Now, so how often
do you play as a duo?
Speaker 9: Not too often, probably about like two or three times
a month. But we just played actually last night, we
played a thirtieth birthday party for a good friend of ours.
But we we've been writing some music together and that's
been another great experience lately, is working and writing with
someone else and we we end to Actually it was
the two of us that recorded the Studio Portland, so
I'm really hoping we got some good takes because it
was nerve wracking. Oh really, yeah, So I hope to
have some of our music out soon because we performed
a duet that we wrote together there.
Speaker 11: Excellent. Does he also play guitar?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Okay, he is the most talented guitarist that
I know. But he also is a singer songwriter. He
produces great with all the recording, so I'm actually learning
a lot from him in that sense. Brendan Gill Gill
and he just actually released his first single are You Here?
And self produced that and mixed it on his own
And I'm the quality of it. It just came out great,
and I'm like, I wish, I wish I would have
put a little bit more time into my first song.
I mean, I'm proud of how it came out, but
it's nice to see, uh, like because he put a
lot of time and years into it versus I just
kind of had of ripped that band aid off. I'm
just gonna get in there. Whatever happens, happens, we'll capture it.
I can always re record it, right, right, So I
it's it's it's it's cool to like meet somebody else
who has a different perspective and a different way of
doing things because I'm learning from that. I'm not stuck
in my ways. I'm seeing how something else works with
a different approach.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 9: So I'm lucky too, Like I just I get to
spend all my time with him doing what I love,
with the person I love it. There's nothing that beats that.
Speaker 12: That's awesome, excellent, excellent. Well we should, uh we'll play
another track. What should we play next? I'll let you pick,
We've got the road song or wish you Well.
Speaker 9: Let's do wish you Well? Because that was that's kind
of like part two that am I missing something?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 12: Okay, perfect, and then we'll play we'll play road song
at the end of the segment. But if you are
just doing your nest. Rebecca Turmael is with us here
in studio. Oh which studio was this one recorded?
Speaker 9: Also the underground?
Speaker 11: Okay? Gotcha? And Vermont?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I said, okay, very good, All right, this is wish
you well.
Speaker 3: I did everything.
Speaker 8: Do you would try and page, but that's not who I.
Speaker 1: Have ever sees.
Speaker 5: Even after those things you didn't sit.
Speaker 3: Don't wanna old them against you. Wish you well instead.
Speaker 13: I was sure if I could tell you two.
Speaker 1: This one, I will wish you invent fill Oh, I
wish you.
Speaker 5: I've found this snull point, your turn fromb.
Speaker 1: And men, letting go of it all. Yup. I hope
you here you can be free from all your pay.
Speaker 3: It may not work it down, but I'll never be
a ship. As If I could.
Speaker 13: Tell you two in.
Speaker 3: Your face, here's my I'd say, Afraid.
Speaker 14: To love is.
Speaker 1: Sound, It's true a ship.
Speaker 3: I wish you.
Speaker 15: If I could tell you to your faces walking ahead.
Speaker 1: Say abraid to yourself it's okay.
Speaker 3: A small huh.
Speaker 13: Sell to your face us saying with you ju ju is.
Speaker 11: Oh, that's nice. I wish you well.
Speaker 12: Rebecca Turmal is here with us live in studio on
this Saturday morning here on Matt connorton Unleashed, and yeah,
we were. We were kind of talking off air about
the song and how great the mix is and and
how how nice those guitars sound, and as you pointed
out to the drums sound really good. And and he's
a he's a what's his name, Vinnie?
Speaker 1: Is that yeah?
Speaker 9: Vincent Freeman.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's a drummer. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Now that's a lot of the stuff that comes out
in Nashville too. I always say this, I'm curious if
you agree with me in terms of production. I mean,
the production on that is phenomenal. I feel like I'm
not a I'm not a big country guy, but I
feel like the best produced because I have a somewhat
of a background in audio production, the best produced music
to me, but you just here on the radio on
commercial radio is coming out of Nashville in terms of
how the guitars sound and how the drums sound like.
I feel like Nashville's really got it down right now,
you know. But I'm picky as hell. Too, like, especially
about how drums sound. You know, like something went somewhere
along the line with uh. I think it probably started
in the nineties, like with rock music, something to me
went wrong with the way guitars are recorded. They they
don't sound right to me. And and a lot of
a lot with drums too, you know. But I feel like,
but anything that comes out of Nashville, it's like they've
really nailed it, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's a big reason why I made the
decision to go down there. I would have sent you
that song, but I didn't have a radio edit. And
I say, one bed word, no, it's not really that bad.
But I wrote this song with Jim called Girls on
Fire my female empowerment anthem. But that was something I
noticed too when I was down there or listening back
to just like the first take, Yeah, like is this real?
So good? They haven't even touched it yet. Yeah, but
they had one of those I just I don't have
too much knowledge on it yet. I'm learning more about it,
like one of the original Neve consoles. Does that sound correct?
And but the drums sound that came out of that
was really really impressive. And that was the first time too,
when I was in that studio, noticing and starting to
listen and hear the difference in sounds and instruments and
even my vocals and background vocals. Yeah, and that's why
I kind of had been experimenting with jumping around at
different studios so I can learn and hear it and
know what I like, because I don't. I don't know
that yet. I only recorded a handful of songs so far.
Speaker 11: All the backing vocals. That's all you I assume on.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wish you well yep. And then am I
missing stuff they too?
Speaker 11: Yeah? Okay, yeah? Yeah? Is that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 11: Is that challenging to to do?
Speaker 12: Like those layered vocals where you're kind of harmonizing with
yourself or does that come easy?
Speaker 9: It can be. That's something I noticed too and growing
up in the theater and I did. Course, Yeah, I
was a kid too, so that helps me in terms
of being able to hear it. But yeah, when it's
your own voice and and it's it's kind of funky, uh.
So that it was nice. When I was down at Blackbird,
I was able to hire a background vocalist and she
came in and I swear it only took her like
five minutes and it's not an easy song to sing.
I'm in there all day, like, oh am, I gonna
do this. And then her name was Marcia, and she
was just just like just this beautiful, bright, bubbly energy
that I needed day. But she just sang was that.
I'll never forget what she said too. She's like, wow, girl,
this is a barn burner.
Speaker 11: Oh that's school. That's cool.
Speaker 9: I will never forget that. Yeah, but it was nice
to hear that difference too, And it's it. I would
like to like it's I can do it myself, but
I feel like it adds a different element and a
different sound and gives it more of a quality to
it when you have a contrasting tone or what it's
kind of similar.
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 12: Now are these all on an album that's available or what?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 9: No, I actually have been releasing single by single, okay,
because I really being new to it and just not
sure of where it was going or what I wanted
to do. I wanted to just like give each song
sole focus. Yeah so far, But actually I just recently
finished recording. It still needs to be mixed and master
and all that. My first collection of songs in a
three song EP, okay, and that was that was interesting
to do because I haven't done that yet, working on
a collection of music and keeping like a similar sound, yeah,
and stories and such. But yeah, the song by song
I think was a good choice for me, just being
not knowing who I was as an artist yet.
Speaker 11: That makes sense.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And you know, we again, we live in a
time where you know, you've got different options in terms
of like when I was growing up, it was, you know,
somebody would put out an album and usually there would
be a single for the album that would go to radio,
usually six eight weeks before the album was coming out,
and then the album would come out, and then subsequent
singles would come out. And that was just the standard
way of doing it. Whereas now you know, you can
do it any way you want to, like a lot
of a lot of guests that we have on the show,
do it the way you're doing it, where you know,
you have a series of singles and maybe eventually those
singles become an EP or an album or maybe not.
Speaker 9: But yeah, there was something interesting actually that Bennie told
me from the underground. He's like, have you ever heard
of the Waterfall release?
Speaker 11: The Waterfall effect.
Speaker 12: Yeah, oh, Temple Mountain. You know, he was on last
week and he was talking about that because that that's
been his approach to Yeah, and.
Speaker 9: It seems to work for people. But in our constantly
changing music industry and especially with the way people consume
their music, I think to releasing song by song it
gives more life to each to each song and and
not something for people to look forward to and stay
stay connected with. You release all those songs at once,
like that moment's over. You can kind of acceend that
that's true when you release song by song. Yeah, because
especially as as someone like me who's also writing music
and trying to become a recording artist as well, building
that community and keeping those my followers and my fans
engaged and just and wanting to hear more. So I
think it's been it's been working so far. But I'm
really intrigued by that Waterfall release and here I might
utilize that.
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The time goes so fast.
Speaker 12: So what's what's kind of your uh what do you
see as sort of the long term trajectory or do
you know, like do you have kind of a plan
in terms of uh, are you are you going to
or maybe I don't know if you're done a national.
Speaker 1: Tour or no.
Speaker 9: But I would love even I it's it's just around
New England, just to go out perform some shows singer
songwriter style, just me and my guitar and tell my stories.
But my my alsomate goal, Like I I just I
just love being in the studio and created and I've
always wanted to look into what it would be like
to write for other people as well, because I just
love writing and creating and being in that process, like
being in the spotlight is not really what I want necessarily.
I just want to create the music and create something meaningful. Okay,
So because it's it's so funny and it feels weird
to say this, but if I didn't have to perform again,
I'd be okay with that. But as long as I
have my studio and I can write my music and
just play my guitar, happy because it's what we were
talking about. It's so nerve wracking and like, but for
some reason, I have to keep doing it. It's like
a calling and I can't. I can't be a songwriter
without performing. So it's like kind of you gotta do
it's hand in hand.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, and it's working for you. It's
it's uh, it's definitely working. Have you You mentioned earlier too,
because you know our audience, we know this industry, people
who listen. There's also a lot of musicians who are,
you know, trying to make their way. Do you have
any advice for someone because you've been able to really
make some leaps and bounds in a short time, do
you have any advice for someone who's maybe starting out,
maybe a singer songwriter starting out.
Speaker 9: The worst thing you can do is compare yourself to
those around you. Like we were saying earlier, it's not
a comparison. Use it as a learning experience. You are
your own person. You have your own perspective in your
own voice, So trust that that's enough. I didn't at first,
and it's hard to ignore all the noise, so to
say sure, but also just forcing yourself to do it.
If you're scared of something, you should probably go and
do that thing because that's going to bring you further.
I remember I couldn't even keep my hands still when
I was playing my guitar. But I'm like, I'm doing
it because you cannot get better if you don't do it.
So I think the biggest thing that helped me was
just forcing myself into those difficult situations, figuring it out
in the moment. And although I may not have believed
in myself, just at least trying to find a little
bit belief. So do the hard things and and just
do the best you can at the end of the day,
that's all you can do. Just do something, move the goalpost,
even if it's just a little bit.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think that's great advice. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And where should people go online to keep up with
everything that you're doing?
Speaker 9: So I have a website Rebecca Turmel dot com, but
you can find me on Facebook and Instagram and if
you want to see me before my mom bands intown too, so,
which is a great website. Alert see in your area.
Speaker 11: I love that absolutely.
Speaker 9: But I'm all around. I'm actually we'll be at an
Oddball brewing tonight in Pembrooke or Suncook for the first time.
Speaker 11: Okay, So I'm all over.
Speaker 9: I try I play. I play a lot in New Hampshire,
but I'm in mass in Vermont sometimes as well. Yeah,
I'll go where old they'll let me sing with my guitar.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, where's the furthest you've gone as far as
playing shows.
Speaker 9: I mean I've played down in Florida that was moartest
because on vacation, but in this area by Portland's probably
the farthest. Yeah, actually, because now I've been Killington that's
pretty part. That's pretty far too in terms of where
I'm located. Yeah, but probably the farthest I've driven is
three hours for a show.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think that's something too that that helps
me get a little bit farther. Is I just I
didn't care how long I had to drive where I
had to go, So if I had the gig opportunity
again getting that experience, that helped me out tremendously. Am
I I'll take it, I'll drive, I can do it.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 12: That reminds me of what, you know, we had a
Frank Allagher played a Plague Dad rather on with us
during the first hour. You know, he's from Portland and
he was saying, uh, yeah, I just you know, play
out as much as possible, which is which is interesting
too because some some people it tends to be more
so people in bands, people in like four piece rock
bands who say yeah, you actually don't want to play
out too much because you oversaturating. But but I I
always when I used to play, I always just wanted
to play as much as I possibly could, you know,
that was my That was my kind of ethos about it.
Just just get out there and play as much as
you can. I mean, I think you know, if you're
playing the same if you're playing the same bar every
single week or something, you can oversaturate. But yeah, but
you also want the experience and and you know, and
and seize every opportunity to uh, you know, to get
out there. And and because it's not the other thing
too that I think some people miss is it's not
just about being in front of audiences. It's also about
making those connections.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 12: You might go play to a room where there's only
a couple of people there, but one of those couple
of people might also be a musician, and they might
also they might be interested in what you're doing, or
they might do something else in the scene, you know,
and they want to connect with you. And so there's
always opportunities, and you know, you miss all those opportunities
if you don't take them.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you you never know who's going to be
in the crowd yep, I never if there is a
venue that reach I always tried to play each place
that reaches out to me, despite like maybe other judgments
people have, like about the room or whatever. I always
try to get my own opinion. I think everybody it
deserves the benefit of the doubt. But it you just
you never know who's going to be there. Actually, this
past summer I was playing at Shopper's Pub in Manchester
and Godsmack's guitar tech and manager we're eating dinner. I
was playing and he ended up giving me VIP passes
to go see the show and I'm just as pub
is so cool.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you just never know. You just never know. Well, Rebecca,
thank you so much. Rebecca Turmel here with us in
studio this morning. This has been wonderful. In a moment,
we'll uh, we'll we'll close out with the road song,
But thank you and Jenny. Do you want to plug
your website and anything else you want to mention?
Speaker 16: Absolutely, you can come check me out at Gencoffee dot com.
J E N N C O F f uy dot com.
We don't forget to check out the Mosaic are collective
here in the Queens City. The Spellbound Yes is still
up and the announcement will come tomorrow on who's going
to be in the many miniatures. All the art coming
up in the next show is below a twelve times
twelve by twelve size.
Speaker 11: Well it's little little, little little little pieces.
Speaker 16: Yeah, masterpieces. Yeah, I'm excited to see what that brings.
Speaker 11: Yes, Yes, all right, very good, very good. So thank
you to everybody who joined us today.
Speaker 12: If you miss any part of today's show, it will
be up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot
orgon on my website Matt Connerton dot com.
Speaker 11: And we will leave you with the Road song and
anything we should know about this one before we play it.
Speaker 9: Rebecca, So this song, it's fitting we're ending on it,
especially after everything we talked about. This is like my
homage to all my other full time musicians out there.
Speaker 11: Oh cool.
Speaker 9: And this is a song that I wrote with Jimmyeger
and probably the one I'm most proud of so far.
We actually have Jackson Brown's guitarist b McCollum on this track,
Oh Vermont, and I said it just captured the essence
of the Road and he sure did so.
Speaker 12: Oh, very cool, very cool, perfect way to end all
right here it is Rebecca Turmel.
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Speaker 8: What it brought me to this place so far, single
foot people eating and drinking, they put them money in
my job. Life gets only on the road townisal Mom.
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my artist spraying.
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Speaker 8: All the dead.
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