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<v Speaker 1>The Internet. It's an amazing place that has expanded the

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<v Speaker 1>way we think and interact as a society, from education

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<v Speaker 1>to entertainment. It's a world of its own, and within

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<v Speaker 1>that world there are shadows, places where things get dark

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<v Speaker 1>and mysterious. True and fictional stories run rampant, spinning people's

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<v Speaker 1>imagination out of control. The story of Kate Yupp is

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<v Speaker 1>the center of one of those shadowy places, and her

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<v Speaker 1>story has the potential to be very very dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Warning the following podcast and material in a mat your

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<v Speaker 2>audience listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, how was it going.

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<v Speaker 3>My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked.

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<v Speaker 1>And Grim, a true crime podcast. And Nicole once said

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<v Speaker 1>and forgot her line.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't forget. I was just like waiting for

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<v Speaker 3>you to do more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm not supposed to do more. You forgot

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<v Speaker 1>that it was your turn to chime in.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy heck, one day, one day, I'll get it so perfect,

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<v Speaker 3>and people would be like, who the shit's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, ninety nine percent of the time you do it

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<v Speaker 1>so perfect. It's just that's true. Sometimes all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, you just like forget.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very distracted by Mika. I'm not gonna lie,

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<v Speaker 3>and I felt like you had more to say, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh, yeah, it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean this is a podcast. We generally have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to say, so we do so with that

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<v Speaker 1>in mind.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your drinking over that day?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually got Stanley Park brewing a trailhopper IPA nice.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. Look at us supporting BC. I'm drinking sand

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<v Speaker 3>tel Rose, the best rose around, betful, so good. They're

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<v Speaker 3>in Colonna their winery.

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<v Speaker 1>You love your wine, especially from Kolona.

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<v Speaker 3>Okanagan is the best wine ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Okanagan is pretty dope for that sort of so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we should do it. Throw up a little quick

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<v Speaker 1>cheers for a happy Father's Day. Yeah, all the fathers

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<v Speaker 1>out there right now who are doing absolutely awesome. You're

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<v Speaker 1>crushing it, keep crushing it. Happy Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Happy Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>We're actually recording this on Father's Day right now, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little belated happy Father's Day when this is released,

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<v Speaker 1>but still happy Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 3>And anyone who may struggle with their father relationship or

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<v Speaker 3>missing a father just showed up to you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes these days are not always easy for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, especially if that man has never come back with

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<v Speaker 1>the milk. Not a joke. I should have said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know, like, okay, you get it, because like

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<v Speaker 1>the deadbeat dads, I'm just going to go I get it, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just making sure, okay, go moving on, moving moving on.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I said something so sweet and you just ruined it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we gotta think patrons.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, we got two of them to thank thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Melissa Calcaffin I really hope I'm right and

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Wilson. You are both absolutely wicked, amazing, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for signing up over on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 3>So good.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're going to get an exclusive episode coming up here.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the month very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we don't even know what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do for me at this month. So if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a patron and you want to have a you have

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<v Speaker 1>a suggestion that you're thinking, Hey, this month deserves this case,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. We'll take a look and we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>We of course have a crap ton of requests.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, we might know what we're doing and depending

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm doing that one or not. I do have

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<v Speaker 3>a case or cases that I'm working on, so oh okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so we'll see. But I mean, obviously like requests are awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>and we put them in our book, and we do

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<v Speaker 3>go through that book often if we're like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>what are we going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, yeah, thank you to their patrons. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely wicked, totally awesome dope perks over there. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to sign up, you can find a

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<v Speaker 1>link in the description of this or give us a

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<v Speaker 1>search on Patreon and you can get some behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>some awesome access.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, yeah, I feel like our Patreon's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I've no, I have no nothing to compare it to,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's dope.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty dope. I think so too.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, so I'm holding some jack O stickers because yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we said, we already mentioned we're recording a day early,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're doing that because I'm actually going away on

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<v Speaker 3>holidays or once in my.

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<v Speaker 1>Life for once in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a while, but yeah, I'm heading to the island.

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<v Speaker 3>And there is inta fino, there is Thancouver Island. Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just so everyone here just is the island and

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<v Speaker 3>you know exactly what it is right away if you're

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<v Speaker 3>in BC. Yes. So anyway, in Taffino, which is like

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<v Speaker 3>this most beautiful town, I guess you wouldn't. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's a city, it's right more of a town.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say it's a town.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Anyway, it just has the most beautiful beaches ever

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<v Speaker 3>and one of the most amazing places to eat. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called Taco Fino.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, so good.

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<v Speaker 3>And they've also expanded that and I think Tafino is

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<v Speaker 3>the og Taco Fino.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>They have them in like Victorian Vancouver now too. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>their food truck you can put stickers on there, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to put some Jacko stickers on there, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to eat it epic tacco exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you find yourself ever in so Fino and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go to Taco Fino, take a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in front of the truck with the Jacko sticker,

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<v Speaker 1>see if you can locate it. Yeah, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>see who can send us pictures, and the first person

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<v Speaker 1>to send us a picture in front of the Taco

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<v Speaker 1>Fino truck with that sticker. You might get something. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>just say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to send you a picture of me standing

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<v Speaker 3>in front of the star. What do I get?

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get a high five when you get home.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh anyway, yeah, I'll see if I can maybe stick

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<v Speaker 3>to on there. We'll see. But super cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, speaking of pictures, actually, we've had people asking for

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<v Speaker 1>pictures with your dogs. So we actually recently did get

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<v Speaker 1>a photoshoot with our dogs from a friend of ours, Melissa.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Melissa there. So we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be posting some pictures of us with the doggos on

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram and Facebook here in the next day or so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're so awesome. There's so many, so many cute ones.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, people always want to We talk about them

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<v Speaker 3>a fair amount, right, so they always want to see

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<v Speaker 3>and learn a little bit more about the doggos.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's hard not to talk about them when you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here doing a podcast and they fart mid podcast

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<v Speaker 1>because they're laying right next to her.

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<v Speaker 3>They need a drink of water, let outside or pacing

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<v Speaker 3>or something. They're very much so in our space, in

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<v Speaker 3>this space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, hashtag tiny home living.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get away.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because we actually had someone I believe, give us

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<v Speaker 1>a bad review at one point. If you go back

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<v Speaker 1>checking out our reviews, they're like, oh, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>your dog farting. Just put your dog in another room.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, I think they said that we were immature

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<v Speaker 3>because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were immature. Yes, go put your dog in

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<v Speaker 1>another room. Just a little side note, we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, I mean they might not have known that

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<v Speaker 3>we live in a tiny home. Like literally, there is

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<v Speaker 3>there is nowhere else that we can put them unless

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<v Speaker 3>we put them outside. But then they're gonna get eaten

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<v Speaker 3>alive by mosquitos at the current moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then they'll just wine at the door and

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be even worse. But yeah, anyways, moving on from

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<v Speaker 1>all that, I think we can go into the actual

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<v Speaker 1>case today.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, this is exciting. Kay. I know a teend tiny

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<v Speaker 3>little bit I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna preface this with telling everyone what I

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<v Speaker 1>told you. This is the story of kate Yup and

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<v Speaker 1>she does muck bang videos on YouTube, which.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you showed me and I was like, actually, that's

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of gross. I don't know if I'm supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to think that's gross, but I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit gross.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not my sort of thing either, But well, content creators, influencers,

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<v Speaker 1>social media personalities. They're all like, it's a relatively new

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<v Speaker 1>term that we have to deal with today, and terms

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<v Speaker 1>like muck bang is going to be thrown in there too.

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<v Speaker 3>People might not know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm getting to that cam you tits like

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<v Speaker 1>you keep.

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<v Speaker 3>Just saying that word. I'm like, some people might not

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<v Speaker 3>know what that is.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm literally saying right now, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>words that we don't know because we're in a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new world of the Internet. Yes, other words like content creator, influencer,

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<v Speaker 1>social media. It's it's all new terminology. Okay, okay, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so hold off on the muckbang thing. I just gave

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<v Speaker 1>a little early access to that word. We're diving into

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<v Speaker 1>the case here. I'm starting off internet before.

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<v Speaker 3>I define Okay, Okay, I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're on the same page. I think, are you sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold back on that wine.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, Okay, you make it sound like I've literally had

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<v Speaker 3>like a couple of SIPs, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you act and like you had a couple bottles.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, so it's all too common for individuals to be

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<v Speaker 1>posting on social media, all these apps and everything to

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<v Speaker 1>try and better their business, you know, and hopes to

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<v Speaker 1>get more likes, more followers, subscribers, all for the long

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<v Speaker 1>term goal of becoming you know, well established, whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>I should preface I have to also say that it's

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<v Speaker 3>exhausting to be a content creator, like exhausting, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, like us as a podcasters, we are content

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<v Speaker 1>creators and yeah, it's a lot of work. Yeah, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>we do live in a time where you can make

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<v Speaker 1>a very good income from posting, Like if you post

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<v Speaker 1>some good content, you garner you know, hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps even millions of yous you know, boom money

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's like quite a few people that I have

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<v Speaker 3>aroun that have I mean, I can consist they've stayed

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<v Speaker 3>now it's like literally their job and stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Well, like someone I turned to quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm pretty sure she's going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>fucking Hollywood the next two three years. But yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it happened so fast. So anyways, studies showed that approximately

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of kids in the US want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube star when they grow up. Yeah, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to forget about the nine to five you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>often they said a YouTuber. So often.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, on February fourteenth of two thousand and five, the

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<v Speaker 1>So Ever since then, we've seen the rise and followed

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<v Speaker 1>many successful people on the website known as you just

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<v Speaker 1>which were primarily popular in the twenty tens, and as

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<v Speaker 1>recently it has become more grounded in educational content. Now, how

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<v Speaker 1>the videos, sorry, how to videos and reviews showing exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the type of information you're after. You know, you google

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<v Speaker 1>do that on YouTube you will find an answer. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot more educational that grounded type content. But

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean YouTube is strictly a search engine now

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<v Speaker 1>searching for these things. It's not just a teaching tool.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it's still an incredible amount of genres available

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<v Speaker 1>on the platform one of which has become very popular

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<v Speaker 1>in the past few years called muck bang.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here we go, I need.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, here is where I define muckbang. So, muckbang comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the Korean word miokbang, which I really hope I

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<v Speaker 1>said that correctly, which combines the Korean word for eating

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<v Speaker 1>and broadcast. Now, in simple terms, you can define muckbang

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<v Speaker 1>as an eat cast. This is a podcast, right, muckbang

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<v Speaker 1>is basically an eat cast. So basically it's a video

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<v Speaker 1>where the host consumes various quantities of food on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually the focus of the camera is on their mouth

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<v Speaker 1>and they tend to have the microphone very close while

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<v Speaker 1>they pick up the sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's just not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you would have a problem with this topic.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, well, honestly, the one you did show me,

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<v Speaker 3>can I say? Or no?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wait, Well, I showed you the first video. I

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<v Speaker 1>showed you ten seconds of Kate Young's first video. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk about that again in sc but I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like kind of a pulse and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm ever in amu to eat that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, Well, muckbang, Honestly, to me, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a form of ASMR, which means autonomous sensory meridian response,

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<v Speaker 1>And these are a type of video that show very

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<v Speaker 1>satisfying visuals and sounds there akin to that, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>peeling that plastic off a brand new phone screen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's popping bubble wrap. But who But some people have

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<v Speaker 1>different things that satisfy them like that, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say this, I can't speak for other people,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that muck bangs are a form of ASMR,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I can draw the conclusion of.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, you're very right. I might have trouble

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<v Speaker 3>with this with the topic of this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I do also want to throw this out there as

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<v Speaker 1>a side note too, or it could very well be

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of kink. Some people very well might have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of fetish revolving around food and consuming it,

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<v Speaker 1>So throwing that out there too.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just a whole new world here. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it's gonna be a whole new world for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people probably now.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of all this information, though, on April twenty third

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty eighteen, a new YouTube channel would emerge with

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<v Speaker 1>its very first video. It was a Muckbang channel with

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube name of Kate Yup. I just realized I

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<v Speaker 1>think I might have said young earlier when I was talked.

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<v Speaker 3>About about it. Kate, I feel like you said yep, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Kate yep. Anyways, Kate's first video will be titled

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<v Speaker 1>quote eleven pounds salmon and then brackets five kilograms of

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<v Speaker 1>salmon in French World record ASMR. So this would feature

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<v Speaker 1>a thumbnail image of a woman sitting in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a pile of raw salmon philets, appearing to eat the filets.

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<v Speaker 3>Then she was dipping it in her soya sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, she usually has like a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 1>dips of sorts like taraiaki sauce, soy sauce and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>she's dipping it in. But yeah, of course this thumbnail

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<v Speaker 1>did not disappoint the channel's host. Kate Yupp, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a very small, petite woman, began to devour the entire

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<v Speaker 1>eleven pounds of raw salmon on camera and while she eats,

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<v Speaker 1>though I do want to point out it is not

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<v Speaker 1>a slow pace. She's not just casually biting. She is

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<v Speaker 3>Long is that video? Because yeah, like we said, I

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<v Speaker 3>only watched like a very short glimpse.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's about twenty minutes. Holy shit, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not. Don't quote me on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm like super obsessed with sushi. I think most

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<v Speaker 3>people know that. And I occasionally like raw salmon or

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<v Speaker 3>raw tuna. Yeah, I just like have absolutely no interest

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<v Speaker 3>in eating any sort of raw salmon anytime soon, anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And I only showed you like a ten second clip.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I was just like, this is not my

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what it is for the entirety of her video.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's not just sitting here like with a knife

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<v Speaker 1>and fork or chopstick, so you guys know she is

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<v Speaker 1>with her hands just digging in chunk after chunk, stuffing

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I should say, teach their own everyone can

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly. I don't judge. Now, Kate is wearing some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of makeshift mask in these videos. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a piece of cloth or a bandana that hides

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<v Speaker 1>what looks like where above her mouth would be. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the camera is framed such so the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>everything past her upper lip I can't see, but this

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<v Speaker 1>mask has a cutout for her nose to stick through

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<v Speaker 1>and a cutout for her eyes. There are clips in

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<v Speaker 1>some of her later videos where you can see like

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of her eye peek out as she dips

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, because that was actually a question I had if

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<v Speaker 3>in any of the videos you get to see her.

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<v Speaker 1>Face, you don't, which added a very large sense of

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<v Speaker 1>mystery to her videos.

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<v Speaker 3>No kidding, And some people probably do show their face

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff, right, assuming very much so.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kate seemed to be from somewhere in possibly France

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<v Speaker 1>regarding the French, right, And she didn't talk in her

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<v Speaker 1>videos either. Only occasionally she would whisper a couple words,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking just a little bit like this, very very quietly,

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<v Speaker 1>which is again akin to ASMR videos. And you could

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<v Speaker 1>hear that French accent when she did talk. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now her video descriptions written in English and French, I

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<v Speaker 1>should say that as well. Either way, it's a mystery

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone who Kate Yup was. She was clearly hiding

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<v Speaker 1>her identity for one reason or another. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>uncommon for people to hide their identity online year right,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all yeah, user names and stuff, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not weird for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, that doesn't alarm me at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so her video did get to see a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of attention. Thousands of views began actually pouring in. Her

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<v Speaker 1>channel began to grow as she continued to post these

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<v Speaker 1>muck bang videos where she eats an absurd amount of food.

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<v Speaker 1>Her first few videos contained a continued to be raw

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<v Speaker 1>salmon phillots, then they began to shift into other seafoods

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<v Speaker 1>like lobsters, crabs, prawns, shrimp, squid, octopus, and the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>she never showed her face or revealed her identity. She

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<v Speaker 1>kept herself very private, very concealed. Now, people of course

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<v Speaker 1>speculated who she was, and the mystery around her identity

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<v Speaker 1>had people asking a lot of questions, Right, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>reveal yourself, who are you? You want to see? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I feel like just that sense of curiosity, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you just need to know almost, especially like you're a

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<v Speaker 3>big fan of this right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. A lot of this speculation especially began to grow

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<v Speaker 1>when some pretty significant bruising on her left arm appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in one way, Oh no, yes, right along her bicet

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<v Speaker 1>huh now. Viewers also noted that it looked like she

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<v Speaker 1>may have a cut or abrasion on her lip on

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<v Speaker 1>the left side to go along with it, which begins

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<v Speaker 1>to make Kate's story take a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>dark turn.

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<v Speaker 3>H Oh yeah, Okay, I don't like where this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you think it's going?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I felt like, maybe is she getting

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<v Speaker 3>abused or something? Potentially is that what people are thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially, so everyone, of course potentially begins to think the worst,

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<v Speaker 1>is Kate being abused? What's a big question on everyone's mind,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you said, And if that is the case,

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<v Speaker 1>who is it that's leaving those marks? And how did

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<v Speaker 1>they happen? Was she really eating of her own free will?

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<v Speaker 3>Also became a popular question shoot to my mind and

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<v Speaker 3>not go there at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It did for some people.

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<v Speaker 3>But that could make a lot of sense. Yes, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>because even when I said that, I was like, how

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<v Speaker 3>is this person consuming that amount of food? Like are

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<v Speaker 3>they throwing up afterwards? Or like how is this even happening?

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<v Speaker 1>It's possible a lot of that sort of stuff. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it plays into the conspiracy questioning because we have this

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<v Speaker 1>giant puzzle and we're just trying to fit it all

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<v Speaker 1>together and make sense of it. So we have this

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<v Speaker 1>very thin woman eating a crap ton of food. Why

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<v Speaker 1>how like everything, who is she? We know none of it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of like that it's like kept a secret

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<v Speaker 3>in a sense, like I don't know that just it

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<v Speaker 3>adds a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It adds a whole new world to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, new world.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I won't do that now. Kate actually explained that

425
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<v Speaker 1>these bruises were caused by the sun and the split

426
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<v Speaker 1>lip as a cold sort. Now, what's in her defense

427
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<v Speaker 1>is actually kind of plausible, and I'll touch on why

428
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<v Speaker 1>those are plausible a little bit later on when we

429
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<v Speaker 1>get into some of the theories. Okay, this would actually ignite

430
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<v Speaker 1>though a long chain of Internet sluice digging into Kate's videos,

431
00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.079
<v Speaker 1>these bruisings, the cut lip, that sort of thing. People

432
00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:34.599
<v Speaker 1>were watching her videos with a very very close eye.

433
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.839
<v Speaker 1>They were going back, they were rewatching, they were studying

434
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<v Speaker 1>every frame for clues to see if Kate was okay,

435
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<v Speaker 1>or if there were any hints on who she was

436
00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:46.799
<v Speaker 1>or who potentially could be causing harm to her.

437
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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of these sheep are so good ye

438
00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:52.799
<v Speaker 3>at what they find. It's mind blowing.

439
00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:58.599
<v Speaker 1>The internet is ruthless, so the more people look through,

440
00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 1>the worst it seemed to get. Honestly, the same video

441
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you can find the bruises in was titled quote this

442
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<v Speaker 1>is a long title, so bear with me. Two whole fish,

443
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<v Speaker 1>whole giant squid, lobster, king crab, salmon and tuna, raw, octopus, scallops, shrimp.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Now the other strange things that were found in that

445
00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>video that that was titled mm hmm were these? At

446
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<v Speaker 1>four minutes and fifty two seconds into the video, the

447
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<v Speaker 1>table seems to unexplicitly move, as if as Kate's hands

448
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<v Speaker 1>are up, leading people to believe that Kate is not alone.

449
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<v Speaker 1>The table was bumped by potentially someone else.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Oh like the person who's recording her and forcing her

451
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<v Speaker 3>to do this or something.

452
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<v Speaker 1>Correct Now further findings and other videos. As people look closer,

453
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<v Speaker 1>they would find this to be very true. In fact,

454
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<v Speaker 1>it's faint, but through her videos there are some points

455
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<v Speaker 1>where a man's voice can be heard whispering to Kate,

456
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<v Speaker 1>instructing her, instructing her things like come on, swallow it,

457
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<v Speaker 1>hurry up faster.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness, yes, oh my gosh, I really don't

459
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<v Speaker 3>like that.

460
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<v Speaker 1>It seems like whoever this is there for one reason

461
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<v Speaker 1>or another coercing cape to keep eating, and, according to

462
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<v Speaker 1>internet sleuths, perhaps against your will.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, because those kind of commands don't necessarily seem

464
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<v Speaker 3>like they're in this together.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Right, It also doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad either.

466
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<v Speaker 3>I guess. But I mean, if we were in on

467
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<v Speaker 3>something like this, and like I was eating all this

468
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<v Speaker 3>nasty food and like you were commanding things like that,

469
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<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like i'd be like so into that.

470
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<v Speaker 1>That's true, But also think of it this way. If

471
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<v Speaker 1>it's say a coach is on the side of a

472
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<v Speaker 1>swimming pool and someone's swimming laps and trying to get faster,

473
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<v Speaker 1>and the coach is shouting these things at them, is

474
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<v Speaker 1>that a bad thing? The coach is trying to get

475
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<v Speaker 1>them to go right, I guess is it bad?

476
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<v Speaker 3>What are the commands again?

477
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<v Speaker 1>Um, come on, swallow it, hurry up faster or I

478
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<v Speaker 1>believe it was fast. Actually I think I wrote that

479
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<v Speaker 1>in correctly.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Fast Okay, I mean the hurry up one, I guess

481
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<v Speaker 3>is the worst one. I feel.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are some other ones as well. That's just

483
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<v Speaker 1>some of the more prominent ones.

484
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

485
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<v Speaker 1>Now another thing that was found at eight fifty or sorry,

486
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<v Speaker 1>five thirty seven. I don't know why I said eight.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Kate begins to tap on the side of the bowl

488
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<v Speaker 1>very quickly as the bowl that she's eating from, which

489
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<v Speaker 1>some claim is Morse code for things like SOS or

490
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<v Speaker 1>I need help. There's multiple claims of what it is

491
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<v Speaker 1>translated from. Okay, but this one is easily debunked by

492
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<v Speaker 1>people who actually know Morse code, though we will touch

493
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<v Speaker 1>on that in a moment as well. Also in that

494
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<v Speaker 1>same video, at seventeen minutes and thirty five seconds, there

495
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<v Speaker 1>is texts that pops up on the screen that reads

496
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<v Speaker 1>this and I quote the meat is so delicious, soft

497
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<v Speaker 1>and tender. Now, the problem with that is there are

498
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<v Speaker 1>certain letters capitalized in the spelling of that sentence. All

499
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<v Speaker 1>of them are lowercase except three letters, three letters that

500
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<v Speaker 1>say s.

501
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<v Speaker 3>S really correct really really holy shit. Yes, that seems

502
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<v Speaker 3>very alarming.

503
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<v Speaker 1>It does seem very alarming, and this got people even

504
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<v Speaker 1>more riled up.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Holy It's like she's trying to put a hint out

506
00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.359
<v Speaker 3>there that she needs some help or something.

507
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<v Speaker 1>If that is a legitimate thing, that she did on purpose.

508
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<v Speaker 1>That is literally calling for help. SOS is save our souls.

509
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<v Speaker 1>That's what it stands for. It's an international symbol for help.

510
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, unless it's just like random, but that seems

511
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<v Speaker 3>it seems.

512
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<v Speaker 1>A little particular to be random.

513
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

514
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<v Speaker 1>Now, almost a month after that particular video where these

515
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:17.640
<v Speaker 1>things were found, another post by Kate was on August

516
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>fifteenth of twenty nineteen, titled quote I Am Alive. She

517
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<v Speaker 1>addressed the concerns that everyone was having of her and

518
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 1>talking about this whole situation they're leaving it. In her comments,

519
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:35.759
<v Speaker 1>she addressed it regarding her safety, telling people she's fine.

520
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>In this video, however, she doesn't talk just like the

521
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>rest of them. It's all texts that pops up on

522
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<v Speaker 1>the screen. So she does another muckbang in this video,

523
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<v Speaker 1>as she always does, chowing down on some insane amount

524
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:53.079
<v Speaker 1>of seafood, especially for her frail stature. I might add,

525
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>but in this video the text pop ups on the screen.

526
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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can see her smile begin to eat

527
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<v Speaker 1>and the textbox pop up, and what these textboxes read

528
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>really caught people's eye, especially concerning the last one that

529
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 1>may have said you know SOS right, So with these

530
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<v Speaker 1>certain textboxes, certain capital letters again appeared. Now these textboxes

531
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<v Speaker 1>were not in this specific order, but the only capital

532
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.759
<v Speaker 1>letters were on these sentences, and they go a little

533
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>something like this. First one, Hey, I'm alive, my friends,

534
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you can see to my smile. The next one, everything

535
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is okay for me? Next look at me? Are you

536
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>really thinking I'm forced to eat? The next one prawn?

537
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Just smaller than giant shrimps and easier to eat because

538
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I can remove the skin. Now, the capital letters in

539
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>each one of those was the very first letter of

540
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<v Speaker 1>each sentence, okay, and the very first words. I'll read

541
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<v Speaker 1>the first words of each one and just pay attention

542
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<v Speaker 1>to the first letter. Hey, everything look prompt. The capital

543
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>letters were H, E, L P, hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. This is just getting worse and worse.

545
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's extremely suspicious and those like that. People are

546
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.759
<v Speaker 1>freaking out and panicking. Yes, they're asking Kate, like are

547
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>you okay? How can we help you? Like say something?

548
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh, but that's almost like potentially like making it worse

549
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.759
<v Speaker 3>or something. Yeah, I think it sounds like though, there's

550
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<v Speaker 3>so many people looking into this and like trying to

551
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 3>do what they could, but what could they do?

552
00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, and the problem is, like you say, it could

553
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>be making it worse because people are trying to contact her,

554
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>say like, you know, let us know. So there are

555
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 1>actual comments if you scroll through her videos, like stop

556
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>asking about this because you very well could be putting

557
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<v Speaker 1>her in a more dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But then also it's very hard to just do

559
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:04.200
<v Speaker 3>nothing too when this person is like it's very seemingly

560
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 3>asking for help. It seems like yep.

561
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>And now Kate also posts a quote comment on the

562
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<v Speaker 1>top of one of her videos regarding the apparent Morse

563
00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 1>code around this time. Now on this this comment, it

564
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>reads this. Now it reminds you this is not Kate's commenting.

565
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>This is someone else who wrote this. Kate just took

566
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>this and pinned it to the top okay.

567
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<v Speaker 3>Of the comment section.

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00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, so that comment went like this, it's not

569
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>morse code. That isn't even how morse code works. It

570
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 1>is a series of short and long pulses. Even thinking

571
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<v Speaker 1>outside of the box, by assuming she is using one

572
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 1>finger for long pulses and one finger for short pulses,

573
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>she taps three fingers on the bowl. It is just

574
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.039
<v Speaker 1>random tapping. There is no correlation between her tapping and

575
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Morse code. I couldn't identify a single letter, so that

576
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Morse code is effectively ruled out, and Kate this to

577
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<v Speaker 1>the top, trying to rule it out herself as well.

578
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 3>But unless it's a code, that's it is a code,

579
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>but it's just something between her and the person that's

580
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<v Speaker 3>in the room with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially potentially potentially like.

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<v Speaker 3>They have some sort of some code system that they

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<v Speaker 3>use or something that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>But what would they be trying to communicate then.

585
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.839
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Yeah, maybe she did need help or

586
00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.039
<v Speaker 3>to stop or I don't know.

587
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Who knows. Now much of this could be tied up

588
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.559
<v Speaker 1>to misinformation, or it could be something like you said,

589
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>an inside piece. It's hard to say. But then after

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<v Speaker 1>this three videos later, on November tenth of twenty nineteen,

591
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<v Speaker 1>Kate Yup would upload her final video titled I Lose

592
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<v Speaker 1>my tooth during this.

593
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<v Speaker 3>Meal, oh my gosh.

594
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:55.839
<v Speaker 1>And having a textbox within this video saying this I quote,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can die in peace. After this

596
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 1>bite before she disappeared, she would say that no face reveal,

597
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>no assurance that she is okay, nothing, just stopped uploading.

598
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>And how consistently were these videos being uploaded and such

599
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 3>a four about once a month.

600
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, and that was her last one was in

601
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen.

602
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Hmm, so not even that long ago, really not really?

603
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Now, in that video that she posted where she

604
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 1>claims to have lose a tooth, Kate does in fact

605
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 1>lose two teeth while eating. In that video.

606
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:34.839
<v Speaker 3>What is she eating?

607
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 1>She's eating seafood, is normal, but she pulls out a

608
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>tooth and she shows it to the camera and continues

609
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 1>to eat, and then later it pulls out another.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh my gosh. Yeah, oh that's too much.

611
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:50.319
<v Speaker 1>And this whole tooth loss thing caused a lot of

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00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 1>affirmation that something was in fact wrong. But the question

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00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>is what is wrong?

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00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because like any seafood, is that going to make

616
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 3>you lose a tooth?

617
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It's hard. Who knows? Would getting punched in the face

618
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:10.480
<v Speaker 1>make you lose a tooth? Yes, who knows? The problem

619
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<v Speaker 1>is we don't know. Kate has never been identified, she

620
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:18.279
<v Speaker 1>has never been heard from since. It's ridiculous. However, there

621
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 1>are some theories, sorry, surrounding the whole mystery with Kate.

622
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I should say this, who she was, what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>There are theories good, well, gosh, because this is like,

624
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 3>I want to know what the heck's going on here?

625
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, as far as we know, that is the end

626
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 1>of Kate's story, but these theories might fill in some

627
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 1>of the blanks. The most popular theory online is that

628
00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.559
<v Speaker 1>Kate had been kidnapped and was used in some sort

629
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>of human trafficking situation. Okay, whoever the person is who

630
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.799
<v Speaker 1>is whispering to her behind the camera is perhaps holding

631
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 1>her captive, perhaps starving her and abusing her, then letting

632
00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 1>her feast and forcing her to binge eat all this

633
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>food to make these sick videos to post online.

634
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 3>That sounds awful.

635
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:07.519
<v Speaker 1>The motive for this, however, is a little unclear. This

636
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>theory would suggest that if Kate is in fact kidnapped,

637
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 1>she would be issued the ability to edit her own videos,

638
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>her own kidnapped videos. Otherwise, how would the subliminal message

639
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of SOS and help be integrated into the videos?

640
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Okay, like you're meaning, she wouldn't have been able

641
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.720
<v Speaker 3>to edit those her own videos.

642
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, the theory says she is, Oh she is, because

643
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>the captors sure aren't going to put those messages in

644
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the videos, right, So if she is kidnapped and being

645
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>forced to do this on camera. She would have to

646
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>have the ability to edit her.

647
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Own videos, right, which doesn't really.

648
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Does logical at all.

649
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not logical what the kidnappers would be the ones

650
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 3>most likely putting the video out there exactly.

651
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 1>And if that were the case, wouldn't it make a

652
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>lot more sense to like one frame, do like a

653
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>big write up on help me. My name is so one,

654
00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>so I'm being held by this guy whatever. The captors

655
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>watching it won't see a single frame, but Internet sleuths

656
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>who are watching it frame by frame certainly would. It

657
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>would make a lot more sense to do something like

658
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.119
<v Speaker 1>that than a random SOS and say, no, I'm fine,

659
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>disregard that.

660
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>But maybe they didn't. They wouldn't know to think to

661
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>just do a little message like that on a frame.

662
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would know.

663
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>That's true, but regardless, it certainly doesn't make sense to

664
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 1>let the kidnap e edit the videos.

665
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.119
<v Speaker 3>No, it does not at all. Actually, dang, because that

666
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 3>one makes a lot of sense.

667
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, sorry, I don't know where I'm at on

668
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>my notes now. I just went off on a ramble. Okay, yeah, sorry,

669
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>got it. There is a name actually that some people

670
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.760
<v Speaker 1>think they may have that is linked up to Kate yep.

671
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay, linked up to Kate yep Oh.

672
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>That name is Carly Goose. Now. Carly is a Californian

673
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>teen who went missing in two thousand and eight. She

674
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.559
<v Speaker 1>was sixteen years old when she went missing, and she

675
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.639
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been seen or heard from since. The case has

676
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately gone cold since many people think that Carly Goose

677
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 1>could be Kate yup.

678
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Really and they're just thinking this from like the nose

679
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 3>down that they look similar pretty much.

680
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>It's a similar smile, similar stature, potential age. But since

681
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>they know since Kate's never shown her face, they don't

682
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:33.079
<v Speaker 1>have much to go on. But they're thinking, Okay, if

683
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 1>Kate is a missing person, a kidnapped individual, we should

684
00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>look at missing persons reports, right, this person is missing

685
00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>looks fairly similar, could it be?

686
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:47.360
<v Speaker 3>And sorry, where did you say they were missing from California?

687
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Which doesn't really line up so much with the idea

688
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 1>of Kate being from France exactly. Yeah, this is actually

689
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a good I point for me to say this. I

690
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't know where I'm going to put this information, so

691
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 1>here it is. There are some small pieces of information

692
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that actually tie Kate to France a little more so,

693
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>being there is a grill in one shot of her videos,

694
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and that grill has been identified to be a French

695
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>grill from France, as well as a Coca Cola bottle

696
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 1>that was written in French. So there's there's a few

697
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>little pieces that have been brought forward to identify that

698
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:23.159
<v Speaker 1>her videos are in.

699
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Fact from France and not Quebec.

700
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Correct, So, a missing team from California being the person

701
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 1>in France is a bit of a stretch.

702
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 3>It does seem like a bit of a stretch. That

703
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.920
<v Speaker 3>so is it Quebec That would seem like quite as

704
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:37.880
<v Speaker 3>much of a stretch.

705
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Correct. Now, Unfortunately, it's pretty much proven that these two

706
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 1>aren't going to be the same individual. If you look

707
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:53.559
<v Speaker 1>at some of the distinguished, distinguished distinguishing features there we

708
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:59.079
<v Speaker 1>go on Kate versus is Carly, they don't quite line up,

709
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>things like freckles and moles. There's two particular freckles on

710
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Kate's neck that Carly does not have.

711
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.679
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, because I mean, oh, that is a it

712
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.559
<v Speaker 3>is a good theory. But it's also if this person

713
00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:16.280
<v Speaker 3>was from France, I would very much think so but

714
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>the fact that they're like way all across the world

715
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:21.800
<v Speaker 3>kind of in California right now.

716
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:24.280
<v Speaker 1>There is another theory that popped up on Reddit from

717
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the username of Ashmel fifteen regarding another individual that could

718
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 1>be Kate, and this one's a little more believable. Now.

719
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 1>They say that Kate is a European female UFC fighter

720
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>by the name of I'm going to butcher her name

721
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>because it's a really hard name to say, but Joanna Zidyechek,

722
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I believe is how you say her last name. Again,

723
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>this theory points to similar appearances between the two, except

724
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:52.920
<v Speaker 1>this time Johanna is not a kidnapping victim. She is

725
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 1>a fighter, which would explain you know why she has

726
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>bruises and cuts on her body? Okay, yeah, professional fighter,

727
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>you know you're going to take punches. That's part of

728
00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the game exactly. So cut and lip in fact also

729
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>matched with one that Johanna had on her lip, so

730
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 1>the Kate and Johanna cut line up. This would also

731
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 1>explain why Kate had managed to stay so thin after

732
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.559
<v Speaker 1>eating so much eleven pounds of salmon in her first video,

733
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.039
<v Speaker 1>not gaming gaining an ounce that would explain it because

734
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a UFC fighter, you would have an extreme

735
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>workout routine to burn all these calories or a reason

736
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to actually eat that much to specifically bulk up in

737
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:32.400
<v Speaker 1>your diet.

738
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, she's a professional athlete. Yeah.

739
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.440
<v Speaker 1>And it would also give a reason for her to

740
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>hide her identity online because she doesn't want to be

741
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>tied up with her personality in the UFC ring.

742
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Huh? And where is this person living and stuff?

743
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not too sure where exactly she's from, but she

744
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 1>is from over in Europe somewhere. Oh, I didn't look

745
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 1>up her exactly where she lives.

746
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Wow. Hmmm, So that one really seems good.

747
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It is pretty pretty tight, except again the marks on

748
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>her body.

749
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh shit.

750
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Also, more specifically, we're not so sure with the previous one,

751
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 1>but with Johanna, we do know for sure. She does

752
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.039
<v Speaker 1>not have a small tattoo on her wrist that kate

753
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Yup actually does have. Kate Yup in her early videos

754
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.599
<v Speaker 1>shows a tattoo about the side of a quarter on

755
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 1>her left wrist, which she later covers up with a wristband.

756
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:31.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, okay, in this UFC fighter sorry what was

757
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>her name, Johanna does not have this.

758
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>She does not have that tattoo nor the same freckles

759
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>or marks that Kate Yup has.

760
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well that's out then.

761
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and unfortunately, no one has ever been able to

762
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.639
<v Speaker 1>find a suspected individual with the same tattoo as Kate.

763
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>But there is another person out there, a YouTuber who

764
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>did find a very convincing lead. The YouTuber is by

765
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the name of Tory Kinlove did some reverse Google search

766
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:11.920
<v Speaker 1>sor reverse Google image searching theory and found a Facebook

767
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:16.519
<v Speaker 1>photo tagging a woman by the name of Kate Yup

768
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>located in France. She compared the photo of the girl

769
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 1>to Kate Yup from her YouTube videos resemblance and all

770
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that was extremely convincing. In fact, the two were very

771
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.599
<v Speaker 1>wearing very similar rings on the same fingers as well.

772
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

773
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, the photo that she found on Facebook was taken

774
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>at a distance which made it very hard to see

775
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:45.719
<v Speaker 1>things like freckles and moles, so they could not be

776
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:50.519
<v Speaker 1>identified to be confirming, and even more so unfortunate, the

777
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.079
<v Speaker 1>photo has since been removed by the individual who posted

778
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it and tagged Kate.

779
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, that seems kind of fishy.

780
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>That is extremely fishy. So whether this is her or not,

781
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the main question is was Kate kidnapped? Was she a

782
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>victim of some sort of violence or some sort of scenario,

783
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>or is there something else at play?

784
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Huh and literally in twenty nineteen, just cold turkey, like

785
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 3>nothing else from this person norrecked. Okay?

786
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Correct? Now, here are some theories that may explain something

787
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.119
<v Speaker 1>in a little bit of a different light rather than

788
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 1>she's kidnapped or something like that. Right, So, primarily Kate

789
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Yup has an eating disorder, an eating disorder that we

790
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 1>all are all very familiar with. Actually bolimia. Now, as

791
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>described by a website Maoclinic dot organ that I found,

792
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they put it together very well in a description here,

793
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>people with bolimia may secretly binge, eating large amounts of

794
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.960
<v Speaker 1>food with a loss of control over their eating, and

795
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>then purge, trying to get rid of the extra calories

796
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in an unhealthy the way.

797
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 3>Right.

798
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>That sounds a lot like what Kate Yup could have

799
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.199
<v Speaker 1>very potentially have been doing.

800
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I haven't said that. I was like, what

801
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:08.920
<v Speaker 3>are they doing with all this food?

802
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Was she throwing it up? Now? Furthermore, bolina is of

803
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 1>course very hard on the body and can cause things

804
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.599
<v Speaker 1>like very easily bruising, oh okay, and can cause damage

805
00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:27.119
<v Speaker 1>to an individual's teeth and gums, potentially explaining why she

806
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 1>so easily lost her tooth while eating.

807
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Huh okay, I didn't know that part.

808
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 1>So this YouTube channel could have very well have been

809
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Kate's outlet to binge eat, and of course she would

810
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:43.199
<v Speaker 1>have covered up her face. Many people who suffer from

811
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:45.639
<v Speaker 1>an eating disorder like this often view themselves in a

812
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.840
<v Speaker 1>very negative way. Yeah, it's really sad, and they wouldn't

813
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>want to associate themselves with this binge eating act. It

814
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:58.880
<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. But what about the SOS message?

815
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 1>What about the help message? What about the man whispering

816
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in the background?

817
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Because I also feel like if she was hiding this,

818
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 3>would she have had someone present? Right? Like, would someone

819
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.400
<v Speaker 3>have been helping or doing this with her?

820
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Like?

821
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that I just don't feel like that's right.

822
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, this kind of leads to a little bit of

823
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.760
<v Speaker 1>another theory about it being a bit of a setup.

824
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.559
<v Speaker 1>As her channel grew, she began eating more, you know,

825
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>specifically for the views and specifically for the subscribers.

826
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, and making money potentially and such.

827
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Right yep, So a boyfriend or someone very well could

828
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>have been there to help her and keep her eating

829
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 1>to maintain these views, coercing her to keep going, very

830
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.119
<v Speaker 1>much so like a coach on the edge of a

831
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>boxing ring or a swimming pool, helping the person continue

832
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.039
<v Speaker 1>to go. Now, especially even if you do include the

833
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 1>eating disorder within this, it makes a lot of it.

834
00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:00.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that someone who views this eating in

835
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>a negative light, who just does it once in a

836
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>while because they need to, is going to want to

837
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 1>do it more for the views when they want to,

838
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:13.480
<v Speaker 1>especially when there's such negative connotations attached to it. Now,

839
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>As for the messages, it could have been something that

840
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>got out of hand again playing with views and subscribers.

841
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 1>People watching develop theories and continue to watch more and more.

842
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.679
<v Speaker 1>So Kate could have simply gave them something to watch

843
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>for and theorize about, and then when things got a

844
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>little too out of control, whether it was something like

845
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:37.559
<v Speaker 1>an eating disorder or potentially fan theories getting far beyond

846
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:43.760
<v Speaker 1>anything she could comprehend, was done with it. Yeah, she

847
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.199
<v Speaker 1>could have simply just walked away and dissociated herself from

848
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<v Speaker 1>this YouTube channel altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow huh, this is just like mind blowing though, But

850
00:44:57.079 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 3>it is. I also just feel that theory too. It

851
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<v Speaker 3>the but the coach or whatever, and like if this

852
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<v Speaker 3>person did kind of suffer from an eating disorder, like

853
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<v Speaker 3>I don't love that, oh no at all. Like is

854
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<v Speaker 3>that someone that literally is like a loved one, you know,

855
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<v Speaker 3>Like that just doesn't make sense.

856
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<v Speaker 1>In all honesty. I don't think there's a single thing

857
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:20.199
<v Speaker 1>about this case, any scenario. I don't love a kidnapping victim.

858
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't love I guess actually, if it is the

859
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>UFC fighter who's just like, yeah, I'm gonna hide my

860
00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>identity and I'll just do it, what if I want?

861
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.519
<v Speaker 3>That would seem terrible? Does it?

862
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.840
<v Speaker 1>No, it doesn't, but it's it's proven to not be

863
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>her right. But if it is an eating disorder, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't love that this individual is going through that. If

865
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<v Speaker 1>it is someone who's coercing them to do it, I

866
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>don't love that. If it is someone who's fishing for

867
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:43.679
<v Speaker 1>views and subscribers and faking this, I don't love that. Yeah,

868
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:48.159
<v Speaker 1>of course, all this, unfortunately is just speculation though, like

869
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 1>everything surrounding this is pure speculation. Was Kate ever in danger?

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00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Was it from another person or herself that she was

871
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in danger from? Was it all in act? Was it

872
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a kink between two people to consenting adults? Yeah, just

873
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.719
<v Speaker 1>got wrapped up in the Internet. I don't know. We

874
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:08.559
<v Speaker 1>honestly probably won't ever know. The only way we'll ever

875
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>solve this is if another video is posted on Kate's channel.

876
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>And I mean honestly too, like what happens if she

877
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 3>did die or something right? But it was even like

878
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:21.880
<v Speaker 3>just a car accident or something right, and that's why

879
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.000
<v Speaker 3>the video stopped too.

880
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Yep, we most likely will never know as off right

881
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 1>now though Kate's channel has one point three nine million

882
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:33.320
<v Speaker 1>subscribers and only twenty nine videos.

883
00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

884
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>The thirtieth video where her teeth actually fallout, has since

885
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>been removed by YouTube for violating guidelines.

886
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh has it okay?

887
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Which I'm assuming it's the teeth falling out that they

888
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:47.400
<v Speaker 1>were not cool with?

889
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because so, because I'm very intrigued to know

890
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 3>what that she was eating at that point, I was

891
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 3>almost gonna go look, even though it's like I don't

892
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:55.760
<v Speaker 3>know if I want to.

893
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I haven't found the exact video, like

894
00:46:59.840 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 1>the entire video myself, but I'm sure you could find

895
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing out there. I've seen clips, but not

896
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. But you can definitely go take a

897
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>look and see what she was eating.

898
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 3>For sure, and so and she was really only had

899
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:12.719
<v Speaker 3>those injuries in one video, wasn't it?

900
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Or was there other The bruising on the arm was

901
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:20.360
<v Speaker 1>in one particular video, but there she's wearing longer sleeve

902
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>shirts and.

903
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 3>Other videos too, you wouldn't even know.

904
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Which leads to more speculation, right, she covering things up.

905
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, huh. But I do think that if that was

906
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>some sort of like uh like assault or whatever, that

907
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 3>they would probably have covered that up as well. Yeah,

908
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 3>in that video.

909
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Now the people have gone down like major major internet

910
00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:48.199
<v Speaker 1>sleuthing over this case as far as trying to find

911
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 1>reflections and the bowls and the the oh my god, individuals.

912
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 3>It's so amazing what they do.

913
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, though nothing has been found. But one thing I

914
00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:02.199
<v Speaker 1>really like, actually, her finger nail are usually like well

915
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.880
<v Speaker 1>taken care of. Would a kidnapped victim have very nice

916
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>manicured fingers now?

917
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I doubt it not at all, unless unless they're prepping

918
00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:12.800
<v Speaker 3>it exactly.

919
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 1>So, now we're just right back to where we started exactly.

920
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everything had it seems so much makes sense but

921
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:21.360
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, well.

922
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 1>The sum of this is there's an individual who was

923
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 1>eating a crap ton of food on YouTube, got famous

924
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>for it, and they stopped posting.

925
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:35.639
<v Speaker 3>And then seemed to disappear.

926
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>That is all we know. We know nothing else. Everything

927
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.639
<v Speaker 1>else has been completely fabricated by the Internet.

928
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 3>And I wonder if there's still people out there looking

929
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:46.400
<v Speaker 3>into this.

930
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh there is, yeah. Yeah. You go to Kate's YouTube channel,

931
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.880
<v Speaker 1>there are people posting daily comments regarding this. You go

932
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 1>to Reddit, there's people talking about it.

933
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

934
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Now, whether the these conspiracy theories are true or not,

935
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that's who knows. We'll probably never find out.

936
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And honestly, my brain I'm going back and forth.

937
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.880
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea which one I think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you can sleep good tonight after this one.

939
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:17.159
<v Speaker 3>My mind is going a mile minute because I in

941
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 3>my head, I'm like it's that one for sure, like yeah,

942
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 3>and then you'll say something else because I'm.

943
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, yeah, well we'll probably never know, huh. And

944
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that is the story of Kate yup.

945
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that is like so interesting And I've never heard

946
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 3>anything about this. I didn't even know what the what

947
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.519
<v Speaker 3>did you call it again, muckbang, muckbang. I didn't even

948
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 3>know that was a thing that existed.

949
00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:43.079
<v Speaker 1>Before, clear clearly because you asked me to define it incessantly,

950
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, it's coming up, comya, tits.

951
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, am I the only person in the world that

952
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:47.719
<v Speaker 3>doesn't know.

953
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:48.119
<v Speaker 2>What that is?

954
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:50.760
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sure you're not okay.

955
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Because that's like a whole new world for me.

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00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm sorry, I won't, I won't. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening. I hope you guys enjoyed this case.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want, you can go ahead and check out

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Yupp's channel on YouTube. If you want to check

960
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<v Speaker 1>out our social media's links are all down below, including Patreon,

961
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 1>where you can get exclusive behind the scenes and of

962
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.400
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963
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<v Speaker 1>last day of every month, plus a little bit extra

964
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<v Speaker 1>once in a while. Because they're awesome over there, but

965
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<v Speaker 1>that life doesn't mean you guys are an awesome over here.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you regardless, So thank you for listening, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course, until next time, stay wicked.
