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Speaker 2: Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 2: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and we are back for
Speaker 2: part two of the grotesque, gruesome and ghoulish series and
Speaker 2: the wonderful month of spooky Season. So today, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: we're doing exploding heads and spontaneous combustion. Some people may
Speaker 2: have heard of these. Some people may have never heard
Speaker 2: of these. However, if you were in our age bracket,
Speaker 2: the spontaneous combustion was literally all over the news all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: And what happened to that? Yeah, what happened to them?
Speaker 2: Could it be a Mandela effect? Are they gaslighting us?
Speaker 2: I'm curious?
Speaker 3: Or were they just setting people straight up on fire?
Speaker 2: That's what exactly. So it's going to be an interesting
Speaker 2: discussion today because I have some thoughts. I have some
Speaker 2: definite thoughts. So welcome back to my beautiful, lovely, talented,
Speaker 2: intelligent bestie, Miss Heidi.
Speaker 4: How are you, my dear Janet is so good to me.
Speaker 4: She is all of those things plus one. I never
Speaker 4: get to say that because she does the intros and
Speaker 4: she is wonderful herself.
Speaker 3: I'm always happy to be here. Thank you for the
Speaker 3: kind words, Miss Janet. I'm excited I've got exploding heads.
Speaker 2: I know it's going to be such an interesting conversation.
Speaker 2: And I find this it's fascinating because there are people
Speaker 2: in the podcast realm that have done shows, and I
Speaker 2: know that you have talked to this particular person about
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis. Yes, and so exploding head and sleep paralysis
Speaker 2: are very closely linked and very closely associated in the
Speaker 2: fact that almost every patient with sleep paralysis reports the
Speaker 2: symptoms from exploding head syndrome.
Speaker 3: Well, I definitely have had me some exploding head syndrome.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had that?
Speaker 2: I have at a time or two. But I will say,
Speaker 2: going along the realm of the sleep paralysis and whatever,
Speaker 2: I've always been very in tune with like the other worldly,
Speaker 2: the other realm, the other elder realmly things I should say.
Speaker 2: And so I haven't had this happen since I was younger,
Speaker 2: when I was first like sensing these kinds of things.
Speaker 4: I have no control over my sleeping time. I am
Speaker 4: a sleeper that goes to sleep and wakes up tomorrow,
Speaker 4: and that's all I remember.
Speaker 3: And so when this happens to me, it seems to
Speaker 3: be when I'm.
Speaker 4: Very tired, when I'm falling asleep, when I'm very tired.
Speaker 4: So we'll talk more about that, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: share my.
Speaker 3: Scream so we can talk about it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: have this happened still to this day, which is it's
Speaker 3: it's so weird, it's weird.
Speaker 2: I will give you well and this is it's a
Speaker 2: very interesting subject, very topic because and this is for
Speaker 2: people that maybe have never heard of this, don't know
Speaker 2: what it is, but it's real. But it's a benign thing.
Speaker 2: It's usually not painful or anything. It's more shocking than
Speaker 2: anything else. Usually happens when people are falling asleep or
Speaker 2: waking from sleep.
Speaker 3: Yes, do you see this photo here?
Speaker 4: I've got pulled up and it's kind of it seems
Speaker 4: like you know, more patients with tanightis report this so
Speaker 4: kind of weird.
Speaker 3: But it's when you shake kind of when you wake
Speaker 3: up and you're falling.
Speaker 4: It's that falling weird, you know, feeling and so I'm
Speaker 4: surprised they did name it exploding head because it's more
Speaker 4: my falling body.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think it depends on the patient because everybody
Speaker 2: describes having different type sensations, Like some people describe it
Speaker 2: as a loud bang, crash explosion like fireworks, gunshots, symbols,
Speaker 2: electrical apps, flashes of light, muscle jerks, or feeling of panic.
Speaker 4: I go right back into my body, I swear to
Speaker 4: you all, I'm dropping straight in and it's a bang.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's very strange to me because it, you know,
Speaker 2: when it says that it's a it's a real thing,
Speaker 2: but it's not harmful in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 2: I can imagine that patients that experience this on the
Speaker 2: regular as far as like the brains, apps and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, how much of a problem that would cause.
Speaker 2: And this the slide that you have on the screen
Speaker 2: said exploding head syndrome among patients with tonightis, which is
Speaker 2: ringing in the ears, and hyperacusis, which I'm assuming is
Speaker 2: something to do with your tympanic membrane.
Speaker 4: I'll look it up really quick while we're chatting, because
Speaker 4: I'm not sure on the hyper acoustics. I almost think
Speaker 4: that means really good hearing is where I'm divulging from
Speaker 4: the symbolism anyway.
Speaker 3: Of that, but let's check it out here. Sound sensitivity, Yes,
Speaker 3: sounds sensitivity heightened sensitivity to ordinary sounds causing pain and discomfort.
Speaker 2: So, which is interesting because I have very hypersonic hearing and.
Speaker 3: I do with smell. My hearing has gotten less. But
Speaker 3: it's weird.
Speaker 4: I can hear things sometimes that are really soft, and
Speaker 4: my kids are like, how are you deaf? Like you
Speaker 4: heard me downstairs, and like blah blah blah. But I
Speaker 4: guess it certain sounds you just can't hear. Talking is
Speaker 4: usually the problem, which, ah, I'm gonna have to deal
Speaker 4: with that something.
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing with me too. But I
Speaker 2: believe it is called selective hearing or selective listening, where.
Speaker 3: I just to know.
Speaker 4: I thought that until twenty twenty and people put masks
Speaker 4: on their faces and I went completely mute.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, oh my gosh, I can't see
Speaker 3: what what? What are you saying? How much do I
Speaker 3: lip read? Why am I not better at this when
Speaker 3: I'm not talking to people? It was so weird.
Speaker 2: It could be we could be famous for bed lip reading. Videos.
Speaker 2: You ever seen them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, No, it's weird.
Speaker 4: And I mean I definitely had multiple situations with this one.
Speaker 3: No, And also I guess I have tonight AS. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I do only occasionally.
Speaker 4: Every once in a while it will go start doing
Speaker 4: that really high pitched sound, and you know, it's really weird.
Speaker 3: If I start saying the Lord's prayer, it stops. I'm like, okay, sure,
Speaker 3: it's medical. Cool cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because the slide al also says the
Speaker 2: eight percent of patients with tonight AS, which again is
Speaker 2: the ringing in the ears, report a sense of the
Speaker 2: explosion in their head before drifting off to sleep.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, that's crazy. Well, mine is more of a
Speaker 3: body jump. I will say that where you jump your.
Speaker 4: Body, like your whole body jumps, and it's it's kind
Speaker 4: of scary. It freaks you out, you know, during during
Speaker 4: the time, and and some people when we get to
Speaker 4: this a couple slides forward. I think when you talk
Speaker 4: about the cord, I'm going to tell a little story
Speaker 4: about somebody kind of famous guy.
Speaker 2: We're looking for the spookiest.
Speaker 3: Guy, right, one of the spookiest guys.
Speaker 2: I do know, yes, So it says with this the
Speaker 2: possible causes our number one a sudden neural misfiring and
Speaker 2: the auditory and sensory regions of the brain as they
Speaker 2: shift between sleep states. I'm gonna say number one on
Speaker 2: this list is what I tend to go with more
Speaker 2: and I'll explain that better. Number two is stress, anxiety,
Speaker 2: and exhaustion. There is such a thing as being so
Speaker 2: exhausted that you can't sleep, and it messes up your
Speaker 2: sleep schedule, so that's possible.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: Three is disrupted sleep cycles or sleep deprivation. So if
Speaker 2: you're somebody that stays up really late all the all
Speaker 2: the hours of the day and night and then you
Speaker 2: know you're getting like two three hours of sleep, you're
Speaker 2: not going to sleep like a normal person, which means
Speaker 2: your body won't heal. Number four is certain medications or
Speaker 2: sudden withdrawal from them.
Speaker 3: Mhm. Mine is definitely jerking around from days and nights.
Speaker 2: And the last one here is other sleep disorders like
Speaker 2: insomnia or narcola that could be possible causes for this.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to add some more that weren't on
Speaker 2: their list of doctor approved what could cause this I'm
Speaker 2: going to say high cortisol levels. Oh yeah, because when
Speaker 2: your natural bodies chemical reward system, you know, dopamine and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, when it loses top place to cortisol,
Speaker 2: which cortisol is your main stress hormone, you have problems
Speaker 2: with your sleep cycles. You get tonightis or ringing in
Speaker 2: the ears, and you have increased electrical excitability in your
Speaker 2: brain in the neural network, which is like think of
Speaker 2: it like a chain link fence. Everything has to fall
Speaker 2: in place and flow through this fencing to be able
Speaker 2: to work properly. So it like severs parts of that fence,
Speaker 2: and so it's not firing properly. High cortisol also causes
Speaker 2: increased sensitization in the central nervous system, which in turn
Speaker 2: in itself causes shocks, zaps, and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: Alters the neurotransmitters that calm the brain down, like serotonin
Speaker 2: and gabba, which are necessary for even keel and no
Speaker 2: hyperactivity of the brain, and so when cortisol is high,
Speaker 2: it dampens those and shuts off those neurotransmitters, so that
Speaker 2: your brain is constantly zapping and firing all the time,
Speaker 2: which definitely could explain it. But I've got two other ones,
Speaker 2: magnesium deficiencies or B vitamin deficiencies, because not enough people
Speaker 2: even if red meat, red meat has r B vitamins
Speaker 2: in it, So both of those being low because a
Speaker 2: magnesium has to do with muscle contraction and things like that.
Speaker 2: And also the last one is electrolyte imbalances because you
Speaker 2: need sodium, you need potassium and things like that for
Speaker 2: that neural network or that metal frame break in your
Speaker 2: brain to actually work in function properly.
Speaker 4: So the luckily and for people that don't know this,
Speaker 4: a little bit of the actual medical community has jumped on.
Speaker 3: Board with some of what Jana is just saying.
Speaker 4: The first medication I ever give to a detoxing patient,
Speaker 4: so if you drink quite a bit, this is really
Speaker 4: going to affect you, and it is not what you
Speaker 4: might think it is.
Speaker 3: They are injections of the vitamins she is speaking about. Actually,
Speaker 3: we do an.
Speaker 4: Immedia injection for certain vitamins, and magnesium is something they
Speaker 4: will continue to take throughout their rehab, even into their
Speaker 4: ninetieth day. So this is something that we absolutely push
Speaker 4: and see the value of thiamine is the first one
Speaker 4: we do be twelve. You know, we follow up on
Speaker 4: all of these things she's talking about, and these electrolyte imbalances.
Speaker 3: People say, oh, just drink a gatorade. People need to understand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and not just that, but if your potassium
Speaker 4: is certainly out of whack, your heart is a muscle,
Speaker 4: and we're talking about it causes muscle problems, so it
Speaker 4: can actually cause your muscle and in anorexia, this shows
Speaker 4: time and time again to quiver instead of pump, because
Speaker 4: it's not effectively. It's just quivering. It's not pumping. It's
Speaker 4: actually having a heart spasm. It's spasming, and many many
Speaker 4: people die from this. So you guys, if you're drinking
Speaker 4: a lot, back it up a.
Speaker 3: Bit, you must be drinking something some kind of electrolytes
Speaker 3: with that business, I don't know.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And that's why, like for me, the
Speaker 2: things that were on the quote doctor approved list of
Speaker 2: what could be causing this, that's why I said number
Speaker 2: one is definitely the most likely, followed up by the
Speaker 2: ones that I gave. And then I would say the
Speaker 2: medication withdrawal or taking certain medications because they will mess
Speaker 2: with your electro lights. They will mess with your enzymes.
Speaker 2: They'll mess with your neurotransmitters and your brain the whole
Speaker 2: nine yards. Yes, and so there are certain things I
Speaker 2: would absolutely not take. Period. So it says to fix
Speaker 2: this or try to get relief. Of course, maintain consistent
Speaker 2: sleep schedules. However, I would say again reiterate, if your
Speaker 2: vitamin deficient, if your electrolyte imbalance, or your cortisol is
Speaker 2: uper high, it doesn't matter what you do as far
Speaker 2: as sleep routine. Unless you get that core result in control,
Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to get regular, normal,
Speaker 2: RESTful sleeply not gonna happen. Reduce stress. That's funny said
Speaker 2: than done right, And so it suggests relaxation, meditation, breathing techniques,
Speaker 2: avoid stimulants, so don't drink caffeine or use nicotine anytime
Speaker 2: near bedtime.
Speaker 3: Of course they don't say pray.
Speaker 4: I did put this picture in here because we speak
Speaker 4: about meditation. But you know we're Christian ladies.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, if you're willing to put faith in
Speaker 3: the universe to do this, maybe try prayer.
Speaker 2: I do one hundred percent, and I think it's works
Speaker 2: for me. I would rather pray than meditate. Or manifest
Speaker 2: how about that.
Speaker 4: But we have to put this in here because this
Speaker 4: is what they say, so they could they can't say
Speaker 4: even though this is a religion too, like yogi's do
Speaker 4: some weird ass shit. Like I'm just saying Steve Jobs
Speaker 4: was a weird mofo. You guys can check that out
Speaker 4: on your own.
Speaker 3: He was a yogi. There's some and listen, anybody can
Speaker 3: do whatever they want. I'm just saying it's weird. And
Speaker 3: maybe you know, Mormons are weird, Christians are weird. Cool,
Speaker 3: but like, let's not leave out the other weird. We're
Speaker 3: all weird. Somebody that's gonna pass. Yeah, Steve John stuck
Speaker 3: his feet in toilets. No, he doesn't get up weird.
Speaker 2: That is disturbing on a whole nether level.
Speaker 3: But he he apparently we're talking about stress.
Speaker 4: Apparently this was his outlet to bring him down a level,
Speaker 4: was to soak his feet by sticking them in public toilets, y'all,
Speaker 4: where they don't get cleaned and residue is obvious, disgusting.
Speaker 2: And that calms you down. That is a whole nether
Speaker 2: level of fish right there.
Speaker 3: That's hepatitis be.
Speaker 2: That's just disturbing. So they also suggest for people with
Speaker 2: persistent cases of this, low dough santaid depressants no or
Speaker 2: calcium channel blockers. Again no, because calcium channel blockers actually
Speaker 2: shut off the amount of calcium that goes to your
Speaker 2: cells all throughout your body.
Speaker 4: They cause more spasms anything without calcium, so lung patients,
Speaker 4: lung cancer people. My grandpa had hyper calcium. But if
Speaker 4: you have hypo calcium, it goes both ways. You start
Speaker 4: having these horrible muscle reactions.
Speaker 2: Not only does it affect like you said, but it
Speaker 2: also makes you dizzy, light headed, flushing or warm sensations
Speaker 2: in the face and neck, headache, are fatigue, weakness, nausea, upset, stomach,
Speaker 2: circulatory issue. So it causes you to have edema or
Speaker 2: swelling because your your cell membranes are not processing the
Speaker 2: calcium like they're supposed to for the cell to function properly,
Speaker 2: so they swell and that fluid leaks out.
Speaker 3: Same with Gabba, you guys, Gaba does this shit.
Speaker 4: And I do want to say, I can't say the
Speaker 4: name of this, but these are much safer if you're
Speaker 4: gonna do it. Okay, this second table here that she's
Speaker 4: talking about because they said too, these drugs have for
Speaker 4: the most part been eliminated in normal life. Okay, you
Speaker 4: very rarely see anything but this one and this line
Speaker 4: kid my brother, and I'm just gonna put that out
Speaker 4: there right now. He did not die from his drug
Speaker 4: of choice that combined with something else in his system
Speaker 4: that was just for withdrawal of medication, which is also
Speaker 4: a popular thing they give nowadays.
Speaker 3: Killed my brother.
Speaker 4: So and guess what, he died from janet heart problems.
Speaker 4: So go ahead and keep talking about that harsh.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is that they suggest this as
Speaker 2: a as a solution, right for this, but because it
Speaker 2: affects like the systems we already talked about, plus the heart,
Speaker 2: it can cause load on the heart, yeah yeah, it
Speaker 2: can cause heart failure, heart block, or rhythmy as really
Speaker 2: slow heart rate constipation. So it's it's stopping up your
Speaker 2: body's normal peristalsis or squeezing motion in the intestines to
Speaker 2: be able to excreen.
Speaker 4: And it can go the other way too, causing diarrhea
Speaker 4: because it's going around the blockage.
Speaker 2: Right, drug interactions, So you can't take it with lots
Speaker 2: of other different medications. It affects your liver, the whole
Speaker 2: nine yards. It elevates your liver enzymes, it makes you
Speaker 2: have the acid reflex, high blood pressure, literally all the things.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: You're having a brainsapp that doesn't happen all the time. Maybe,
Speaker 2: but you're gonna take this that's going to compound your system,
Speaker 2: your symptoms and make it worse.
Speaker 4: And if it's just intermittent, like honestly, I if it
Speaker 4: was constant and you've changed everything and you've done everything, okay, maybe,
Speaker 4: but these other things like for depression, for real, true depression,
Speaker 4: not this page here.
Speaker 3: Right, these that's fine.
Speaker 4: Like I my ex husband, if he would go off
Speaker 4: this one, he turned into a crazy person for real
Speaker 4: and punching things and he is the nicest human when
Speaker 4: he but he has a TBI. So like all these things,
Speaker 4: you know, we need to make sure and say, look,
Speaker 4: we're not talking about for everything, but way the consequences
Speaker 4: of things if they're if it's a small thing, if
Speaker 4: this isn't ruining your life happens once every three months,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I said, live with it.
Speaker 2: I do one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Suck it up, Buttercup, Yeah, it's not always going to
Speaker 3: be pretty let's be real, you know, but if you're
Speaker 3: horribly depressed, this is not the same thing.
Speaker 2: So interestingly enough, with new research emerging in this because
Speaker 2: they honestly do not know what the heck causes this
Speaker 2: to happen, So new research is emerging where they believe
Speaker 2: that it's the brain's version of a quote false start,
Speaker 2: like an engine backfiring when shutting down. So the auditory
Speaker 2: system that's your hearing may pop with energy as the
Speaker 2: body transitions from way to sleep.
Speaker 4: This kind of gives a good diagram of all the
Speaker 4: different functions for sleep and different things that you produce
Speaker 4: inside your body for sleep. And we will talk about
Speaker 4: the pineal gland here in a few but this is
Speaker 4: just the overall.
Speaker 2: So what we're looking at is a slide with the
Speaker 2: pineal gland in it, and it produces the melatonin, which
Speaker 2: melatonin is the sleep hormone. It helps you to restless sleep.
Speaker 2: But it also shows the other parts of the brain,
Speaker 2: and all of those parts of the brain are extremely
Speaker 2: important for different regulation of hormones and your central nervous
Speaker 2: system in your body.
Speaker 3: So yes, and you know, I always do this thing
Speaker 3: that I learned. I think it was in therapy.
Speaker 4: You know, if you lay down and you get everything
Speaker 4: turned off, you've got to get everything turned off away
Speaker 4: from you, lights, all that.
Speaker 3: I know people like to fall asleep TV.
Speaker 4: Look, it's a death sentence unless you have like a
Speaker 4: severe PTSD case and you need that, you know. But
Speaker 4: they're sleep machines that play peaceful things, or you can
Speaker 4: play that on your phone. But I would make sure
Speaker 4: all lights are off. Everything's off because you unknowingly are
Speaker 4: stimulated by it. My husband forgets sometimes unknowingly wakes me up,
Speaker 4: not because it dinged, none of that.
Speaker 3: The light came on. Just the light coming on will
Speaker 3: wake me up. So you know it happens. You know
Speaker 3: this is real.
Speaker 4: And then some people can't go back to sleep. So
Speaker 4: if you lay down and you count to ten, here's
Speaker 4: the funny thing about your brains. It hates boredom. Then
Speaker 4: when you get to ten, start again. Don't keep canting.
Speaker 4: Start one, back to ten, start again. You will get
Speaker 4: sick of it. You will and next thing you know,
Speaker 4: you might be asleep. Doesn't work for everybody, but hey, worth.
Speaker 2: Ashop, now you mentioned one thing that's very helpful with
Speaker 2: any kind of patients that have PTSDs sleep issues, insomnia,
Speaker 2: hypersomnia like any of that kind of stuff. Is a
Speaker 2: white noise machine, and it comes with different kinds of
Speaker 2: white noise, different tones of white noise, but those are
Speaker 2: very beneficial for people who have any kind of sleep issue.
Speaker 4: We use these on our PTSD unit and patient at
Speaker 4: my job, and they make all the difference for our
Speaker 4: combat veterans. So just saying guys might want to check
Speaker 4: into it. They're cheap on Amazon. I think they even
Speaker 4: have apps that do this now.
Speaker 2: So so now we're going to move into the spiritual
Speaker 2: and metaphysical interpretations of these exploding head syndromes with the
Speaker 2: zapps and all these different things that people experience. So
Speaker 2: the first one is energy shifts, which is called the
Speaker 2: Kundalini awakening and usually comes from yogic or tantric practices.
Speaker 2: The sudden pop or bang sound inside of the head
Speaker 2: is described, and that's why they call it the Kundalinia
Speaker 2: awakening because it is the release of dormant spiritual energy
Speaker 2: that travels up the spine and through all.
Speaker 4: I just don't know about this, but I mean this
Speaker 4: very new age, y'all. I agree there is stuff stored
Speaker 4: inside of ourselves. Like trauma for sure. And I guess
Speaker 4: this seems okay if you look at it that way.
Speaker 4: For me, I'm like, look, we've renamed and re categorized
Speaker 4: everything into oblivion now, and everybody's so smart, they're dumb, like, right,
Speaker 4: you gotta deal with your trauma clearly, like come on now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so they they described this as Sometimes the
Speaker 2: sounds are called naa, n A, nothing, nada, or inner sounds,
Speaker 2: and people might also hear bells, buzzing or booms as
Speaker 2: their inner energy centers or schacter as activate.
Speaker 3: I think I wasn't muted for that, cough, but sorry.
Speaker 2: Completely fine. So the next one is uber interesting, and
Speaker 2: this kind of lends back to the sleep paralysis type stuff.
Speaker 2: So this one is astral or out of body transitions.
Speaker 3: This is where I have my story after you're done.
Speaker 2: People interested in astral protection often say the explosion happens
Speaker 2: as consciousness detaches from the physical body and they enter
Speaker 2: their traveling face. It's thought to be the moment that
Speaker 2: your subtle body vibrates at a higher frequency or crosses
Speaker 2: from a waking stage into a dream or astral travel stage.
Speaker 3: Very strange. Your silver cord is something that people will
Speaker 3: often refer to this.
Speaker 4: And there is a story about a pastor that actually
Speaker 4: intervened on behalf of Anton LaVey's daughter. He didn't know
Speaker 4: it was Anton LaVey's daughter, and he ended up picking
Speaker 4: her up and basically helping her because she was hitch
Speaker 4: hiking and all this there's a huge story behind it,
Speaker 4: and apparently fought Anton Levey in the astral world and
Speaker 4: cut his silver cord, saying that he killed him. This
Speaker 4: is this is a real story. You guys can look
Speaker 4: it up. I'll look up the pastor's name here in
Speaker 4: a minute. But this was literally over the daughter because
Speaker 4: he kept saying, if you don't give my daughter back,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna come for you in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night and get you. And the pastor was like, bro,
Speaker 4: I'm here for it all day, all right. So yeah,
Speaker 4: they had an astral silver cord fight and apparently he
Speaker 4: faster at the gun than you know, Anton LaVey and
Speaker 4: got him and cut that cord before he got back
Speaker 4: in his body.
Speaker 3: Which I do fairly lean on this situation because this
Speaker 3: is more godly to me than this is about your soul,
Speaker 3: Like do I think you know, do I think you
Speaker 3: could be damaged if your soul is accidentally slipping, like
Speaker 3: people that don't mean to travel outside their body sometimes do.
Speaker 3: And I think it happens to a lot of us.
Speaker 4: I think that, you know, even like for me, like
Speaker 4: where I don't remember things, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: You don't know, you know so.
Speaker 2: Well, And think about that also in the aspect of
Speaker 2: like near death experiences and what people come back and explain,
Speaker 2: like heaven looked like, or the Kingdom of God or
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, my mom had a very scary near death
Speaker 4: experience and she was pronounced dead. I watched that happen
Speaker 4: in my kitchen, and she brought back a story. And
Speaker 4: I'll tell people this, she never did it again because
Speaker 4: it wasn't a good experience, because it was a purposeful situation,
Speaker 4: and she never did that again. So she had an
Speaker 4: actual person intervening on her behalf, which was my great
Speaker 4: grandmother and send her back real.
Speaker 2: So this slide that she has on the screen right
Speaker 2: now is a person like laying down and they have
Speaker 2: the silver cord there and another body like above them,
Speaker 2: like their spirit up above them. And this comes from Ecclesiasts.
Speaker 2: Ecclesiastest I can't talk today, And so this is twelve
Speaker 2: six through seven, and it says, or ever the silver
Speaker 2: cord be loosened, or the golden bowl be broken, or
Speaker 2: the picture be broken at the fountain, or the wheel
Speaker 2: broken at the cistern, then shall the dust return to
Speaker 2: the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return
Speaker 2: unto God who gave it.
Speaker 4: So I'm still looking to make sure, but I think
Speaker 4: this guy his name is Dave Bryan, And so if
Speaker 4: people want to look up that story about on Tom Lavay,
Speaker 4: feel free to.
Speaker 3: Look up his name.
Speaker 2: That's a very interesting I thought you were going to
Speaker 2: say something about someone else. So the next thing is
Speaker 2: third eye or pineal gland activation. So some metaphysical traditions
Speaker 2: link loud inner noises to the pineal gland or the
Speaker 2: third eye chakra opening. This is seen as a sign
Speaker 2: of increased intuition, psychic sensitivity, or spiritual downloads.
Speaker 3: So a lot of these are you know, they say
Speaker 3: that this gets calcified with fluoride. I'm not correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kind of get this because I get
Speaker 2: quote downloads. I joke about that all the time, right
Speaker 2: where you just get information like something that you don't
Speaker 2: know how to do and all of a sudden you
Speaker 2: do and whatever, or information messages to give people whatever.
Speaker 4: That's the best when it's somebody really don't want to
Speaker 4: give it to so amazing. Yeah, doing my scripture study
Speaker 4: and they're like, give this scripture to this person.
Speaker 2: Uh uh no, You're like I'm not going, and God's
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you feel like a door. Can you
Speaker 3: do it? Because you love God? But that's all.
Speaker 2: So again, I think this goes along with the sleep
Speaker 2: paralysis thing because a lot of people that have sleep
Speaker 2: paralysis are very sensitive to these entities.
Speaker 4: A lot of people that have sleep paralysis and a
Speaker 4: very awake pineal gland have had trauma in their.
Speaker 2: Youth one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: So yeah, take that, especially medical trauma. So yeah, it's
Speaker 3: an interesting one.
Speaker 2: So the next one is quote downloads or high frequency guidance.
Speaker 2: So this is in the new AG business. It says
Speaker 2: exploding hitsyn drome sometimes described as your energy field adjusting
Speaker 2: to higher frequencies, especially during major life changes. The boom
Speaker 2: may represent your system integrating new information like a spiritual reset. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call BS.
Speaker 4: I think that you know, your spirit can do a
Speaker 4: lot of things. I'm just gonna say trauma, Like, let's
Speaker 4: review it. Like there are things in my life that
Speaker 4: have been very traumatic that I talk about. Then there's
Speaker 4: been things in my life that I forget about, Like
Speaker 4: I had a severe burn and skincraft before I was
Speaker 4: even a year old. Was that dramatic to my little person?
Speaker 4: I'm sure that it was. I don't remember it, so
Speaker 4: I don't bring it up right Like, so review your
Speaker 4: past and come to terms with it. Honestly, we all
Speaker 4: have one. There's none of us that make out of
Speaker 4: this business alive, and we've all been damaged in so
Speaker 4: many ways, but we can rise above it. That is
Speaker 4: why I called my show Unfiltered Rise because you are
Speaker 4: bigger than that, especially with God behind you well.
Speaker 2: And that's why, like I say, bs on what they say,
Speaker 2: but you have to say, it's the aspect of spiritual reset.
Speaker 2: I think of that more in terms of enlightenment from
Speaker 2: God and like your finally getting the message that you
Speaker 2: need to change your for lack of better frequency from
Speaker 2: a low vibing frequency to meaning aka negative energy, to
Speaker 2: more of a living, joyous energy which is God driven
Speaker 2: and we're.
Speaker 4: Not saying be one of those weird Look, this is
Speaker 4: such a fine line, right because we're talking about God
Speaker 4: and we're talking about this and this and this and
Speaker 4: changing this, but we're not talking about manifest station and
Speaker 4: all this weird stuff. It is such an easy You know,
Speaker 4: the reason why the New Age is so attractive to
Speaker 4: so many people is because it is somewhat biblical too,
Speaker 4: and then you know it's too truth and a lie
Speaker 4: for everything, So watch watch out, just watch out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you're become spiritually reset, it's because God's
Speaker 2: moving in your life. It's not because it's wi wi
Speaker 2: energy in the universe calling you to be. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: why I said that one is b a s baloney.
Speaker 4: You might end up being Joseph Smith and getting wives
Speaker 4: and talking to angels and getting plates and just.
Speaker 2: I talk to myself. Does that count?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, I do that.
Speaker 2: I get better answers that way. Just exactly so, how
Speaker 2: people work with this spiritually, especially if you're dealing with
Speaker 2: you know, the symptoms and then you're talking about chakras
Speaker 2: and energy roots and all that kind of stuff. Grounding practices,
Speaker 2: whether you're being spiritually attacked or you're just going throughout
Speaker 2: a normal day, and grounding actually can help reset your
Speaker 2: imbalances in your body as far as cortisol levels things
Speaker 2: like that, because grounding lowers your cortisol because it's your
Speaker 2: stress hormone. So if you're in a relaxed state, you know,
Speaker 2: peaceful times, and so a lot of people do this
Speaker 2: with their you know, barefoot walking in the grass, deep breathing,
Speaker 2: visualization of roots again, talking about chakras and things like that.
Speaker 2: Me personally, mine is just literally sitting outside in nature, pray.
Speaker 4: Coffee journal, that's mine. Read the scriptures because you will
Speaker 4: find a sense of peace. And even if it's one scripture,
Speaker 4: like people always get so daunted, you know, it's not
Speaker 4: really that big a deal.
Speaker 2: So so everybody can have their different things that calm
Speaker 2: them down or ground them, recenter your life, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call. And so even if it's like sketching
Speaker 2: or drawing or coloring or whatever, that's your activity that
Speaker 2: you need to keep that to stay centered and balanced.
Speaker 3: Love coloring, Love coloring.
Speaker 4: I don't ever get to do it hardly anymore, but
Speaker 4: because I'm always researching, but I love coloring fun.
Speaker 2: I'm going to send you a coloring book.
Speaker 3: Ah, I love it.
Speaker 4: I have tons of Joe pens and that's what we
Speaker 4: do when we go camping. I just like to get
Speaker 4: as detailed as possible because coloring sounds silly. Then if
Speaker 4: you do it to your best level, or if you
Speaker 4: like to, you know, be your own money who cares exactly.
Speaker 2: So, and again, coloring is good patient therapy for people
Speaker 2: with PTSD anxiety, you know, stuff like that. So the
Speaker 2: next one is meditation before bed to stabilize your energy.
Speaker 2: All right, again, yeah, praying is better. I don't meditate.
Speaker 2: I don't feel the need to meditate. I pray a
Speaker 2: lot throughout the day on different things. Some people don't.
Speaker 2: That's okay, you do you, but find something that works
Speaker 2: energy balancing, like greaky chakra work or sound healing. Sound
Speaker 2: healing has been shown to be very beneficial again for
Speaker 2: patients suffering from PTSD anxiety, trauma induced, different things like that.
Speaker 4: So, and I'm going to say a very occultic term here,
Speaker 4: but don't take it the wrong way, guys, like when
Speaker 4: you're looking at something called shadow work. Okay, the reason
Speaker 4: why they get so obsessed with this this was like
Speaker 4: a big youngion term. Right, you have to work through
Speaker 4: the problem. You keep aar it, you can't go over it.
Speaker 4: Like if you never worked through through the problem, you
Speaker 4: will suffer forever. You will suffer until you got Guys
Speaker 4: go like, it's it's just the way our brain works.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you have to go back to
Speaker 4: everything that ever happened in great detail.
Speaker 3: You just go through your feelings and emotions of that.
Speaker 3: They do this with em D r R. You know
Speaker 3: little about that. She goes through it and I'm like,
Speaker 3: hell no, Like I thought they were going to bring
Speaker 3: up them memories and I'm like, mmm, I like my life.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go back there because what if
Speaker 3: something's scary And she's like, no, it's not that. You
Speaker 3: just work through the feelings associated.
Speaker 2: With what right and what's attached to something. And so
Speaker 2: for people that don't know, And I did a show
Speaker 2: on this with Ellie before on em DR and what
Speaker 2: it is, but it is I movement desensitization something really
Speaker 2: I think it's realization and let me look at But
Speaker 2: it's like, say you had to trauma, Like we'll use
Speaker 2: hers for instance, like she was hit by a car
Speaker 2: as a pedestrian, and so things come up and they
Speaker 2: trigger her subconscious to react to certain situation in life
Speaker 2: because of that buried trauma. And so what E M
Speaker 2: d R does It breaks down each section of that
Speaker 2: trauma and it brings up like what emotion is attached
Speaker 2: to that? So is it safety and security? Like you
Speaker 2: don't feel safe in this situation, and so anything that
Speaker 2: makes you feel unsafe is linked all the way back
Speaker 2: to this particular trauma, and so they cross those yeah. Yes,
Speaker 2: So they try to retrain your brain and put away
Speaker 2: that negative like unsafe and be like I'm here, I'm fine,
Speaker 2: Like it's true, right, And so it's reattaching a new
Speaker 2: emotion to that previous memory so that you can get
Speaker 2: pass that.
Speaker 3: And forgiveness, true forgiveness, like not this bullshit.
Speaker 4: I forgive them. I never want to see them or
Speaker 4: talk to them again. And everybody knows I'm talking about
Speaker 4: my kid here. Look, this is not the way you
Speaker 4: truly forgive anyone, because that's not real. Like, that's not
Speaker 4: real if you truly forgave someone that was close to
Speaker 4: you and not physically harming. I'm not talking about people
Speaker 4: that are in danger, okay, talking about these mental slights
Speaker 4: or whatever is happening. We all fail our children and
Speaker 4: our parents failed us too, big surprise. It happens since
Speaker 4: freaking the first children ever, and it's just part of it.
Speaker 4: We have to work through, retrain, help remember like, oh
Speaker 4: they didn't know what they were doing. Oh their parents
Speaker 4: abuse them, oh blah blah. And it may not erase,
Speaker 4: but it helps explain it.
Speaker 2: Right one hund And I will say that speaking from
Speaker 2: my standpoint, even if somebody calls me that's going through
Speaker 2: a traumatic experience, even being able to voice that to
Speaker 2: another person gets that out of your body, puts it
Speaker 2: out into the universe, and it will lower your cortisol levels,
Speaker 2: lower your blood pressure, and make you more common relax.
Speaker 2: It may not permanently resolve the issue, but speaking it
Speaker 2: out is a big part of it, yea.
Speaker 4: And writing it down, writing it down, speaking it out.
Speaker 4: That's why people say speak your truth. And I think
Speaker 4: that the problem today is there's too many therapists. And
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're all bad, there's too many people.
Speaker 2: That used to them are bad.
Speaker 4: They get involved in people's lives and they replace your
Speaker 4: family and they become what you you need. This so
Speaker 4: not for a time, not till they let you go.
Speaker 4: That's what they're used to be.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is the time you fly a little bird.
Speaker 4: Like now you're a permanent person at therapy and you're
Speaker 4: never going to get over the problems with your mother
Speaker 4: because you've exiled your mother and now you're never going
Speaker 4: to get better. And I know I use my own
Speaker 4: personal thing, but I'm just saying, like I had it
Speaker 4: with my mother, and it's generational. First of all, it's
Speaker 4: biblically generational curses. To be honest, you have to when
Speaker 4: you forgive somebody. When I see my mother, I don't think, oh,
Speaker 4: all the bad things of all that. I just see
Speaker 4: my mother and I just love her. We got to
Speaker 4: learn to let go, really, and you.
Speaker 2: Have to learn to live your life through grace and mercy.
Speaker 2: Because were they perfect parenting us?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: But were their parents perfect?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: And so it's learned behavior. And you can't expect someone
Speaker 2: to be perfect that didn't have a perfect upbringing themselves right?
Speaker 3: And has this person changed they? What are they like now? Like?
Speaker 4: Are is it harming you to set boundaries where you
Speaker 4: don't go to their house but you call them if
Speaker 4: they're abusive?
Speaker 3: Guess how quick it is to go, yeah, I'm done
Speaker 3: with this, bye, love you, talk to you later. Not abandonment.
Speaker 4: Let's not recreate trauma for the person. Let's just say
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do this right now. I love
Speaker 4: you goodbye, so easy.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And I think that's a people like
Speaker 2: forget a lot of those things.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, going back to this kundalini awakening thing, because I
Speaker 2: had to look this up because I've never heard of
Speaker 2: this before.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what.
Speaker 2: So, it's a Sanskrit term meaning coiled one, and it
Speaker 2: refers to latent spiritual energy believed to rest coiled like
Speaker 2: a serpent at the base of the spine, which is
Speaker 2: the rootshot kra or mulatara. I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: So this kundalini can be awakened through spiritual practices such
Speaker 2: as the meditation, the breath work, saying a mantra, or
Speaker 2: a deep devotional and then it rises upward through the
Speaker 2: chakras like a snake creepy, and it works through all
Speaker 2: of the energy centers along your body and goes up
Speaker 2: to the crown of the head, which is your your
Speaker 2: crown chakra. And then when it ascends smoothly, it's said
Speaker 2: to bring profound spiritual weakening and enlightenment, expanded consciousness and intuition. Hello,
Speaker 2: that's your third eye opening, emotional release and healing, a
Speaker 2: sense of unit with the divine or universal consciousness.
Speaker 3: That's where we change our minds a little. But that's okay.
Speaker 3: If you believe in this and it works for you, cool.
Speaker 3: But for me, I'm not thinking of snakes.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing That's why. That's why reading that, I
Speaker 2: was like, Nope, no, I'm thinking about a snake coming
Speaker 2: up through my body.
Speaker 3: I'll just think of something else. And you know, it's
Speaker 3: all the same thing.
Speaker 4: It doesn't need to be, you know, these exact words.
Speaker 4: But I definitely think, like I'm not saying all Eastern
Speaker 4: medicine is bad or whatever. Definitely Western medicine's kookie too,
Speaker 4: so who cares. But I just think we have to
Speaker 4: remember where.
Speaker 3: Did they get this information? They really worship a lot
Speaker 3: of people, So.
Speaker 4: I want to know, you know, more about like the
Speaker 4: background before I do anything, because it's come from a
Speaker 4: sacred cow.
Speaker 3: Because I'm out.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and that's why I have questions, right
Speaker 2: and I'm going to question great that this is what
Speaker 2: some many believes, but I'm still like you on the
Speaker 2: fence about this because it says people that experience the
Speaker 2: Kundalini awakening describe it as feeling like heat tingling or
Speaker 2: electricity moving up the spine, vibrations or internal sounds or
Speaker 2: even explosions overlapping with the exploding head syndrome, pressure at
Speaker 2: the crown or the third eye area. Sudden emotional releases
Speaker 2: like crying, laughter, or spontaneous movement that can also be
Speaker 2: because your central nervous system is uber duber screwed up.
Speaker 2: Heightened intuition, dreams or perception of subtle energy.
Speaker 3: And how high are you when you're doing this? And
Speaker 3: Alistair Crowley took this to another level.
Speaker 4: We won't go to exactly how, but he wanted to
Speaker 4: get into the where it begins and knock that right
Speaker 4: out and knock it.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. He's gonna help people knock
Speaker 3: that well.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, if you think about it,
Speaker 2: like all of these psychedelic experiences, you know, with the
Speaker 2: shaman and whatever they take you through, these kind of
Speaker 2: type things. I'm gonna call it this, but it's the
Speaker 2: same kind of thing where you're having this awakening to
Speaker 2: other things in an outer body experience, and you're getting intuition,
Speaker 2: but where in the where in the uber hail is
Speaker 2: that intuition coming from that is not godly? When that
Speaker 2: is happening, I'm sorry, it is.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they show all these good stories right about it, Okay,
Speaker 4: like with the shamans and the medicine and this different
Speaker 4: stuff like ayahuasca.
Speaker 3: I think we can say that because that's not it's tribal.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, but there's a million stories for every few that
Speaker 3: are good, that are really negative. That they bring home
Speaker 3: things that live, things that are And you and.
Speaker 2: I talked about that. We did a show together before
Speaker 2: where things get attached to people when they're in a
Speaker 2: weakened state.
Speaker 4: Yes, and they've weakened your body, made you puke and
Speaker 4: poop and it's like this horrible thing.
Speaker 3: So they've weakened you inside and out, and now you're
Speaker 3: completely utterly vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Vulnerable, vulnerable to spiritual attacks. I'm sure that's gonna uber
Speaker 2: piss off some people that are listening, but I'm just
Speaker 2: saying these.
Speaker 3: From most cheers. I don't know you. Yeah, somebody said
Speaker 3: that as a comment on my show the other day
Speaker 3: they said, well, I take it the this whole show
Speaker 3: is leaning Christian, and I'm like, did you not breathe?
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a show two hundred and something.
Speaker 3: Have you not been watching? I don't know. Are you new?
Speaker 2: Are you new?
Speaker 4: I didn't have to say anything because somebody came back
Speaker 4: and said, well, yeah, she's a Christian.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I just let them fight it out.
Speaker 3: It was great.
Speaker 2: So, like the snake thing with the Kundalini, right, starts
Speaker 2: your root chakra, which is your grounding and safety. That
Speaker 2: is like your feet. Good think that as you're rooted
Speaker 2: to the earth, you're rooted to the ground. Then it
Speaker 2: moves into your sacral chakra, which is your creat creativity
Speaker 2: and sexuality. So I will say in the aspect of
Speaker 2: people who hold emotional or traumatic memory at us sell
Speaker 2: your level, because we've talked about that before. Anybody that
Speaker 2: has been sexually abused, you're gonna hold a lot of
Speaker 2: the negative feelings in your growing area. That's just the
Speaker 2: way it is.
Speaker 3: So if quick you're back easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If you have problems with reproduction or urinary stuff
Speaker 2: or whatever, that's because all of that emotional stuff does
Speaker 2: get stored to sell your level, and that's where it
Speaker 2: goes because that's where the drama happened.
Speaker 3: And I'm definitely not saying this stuff doesn't have a basis.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying they're taking the basis and going New
Speaker 4: Age instead of taking a basis going Christian.
Speaker 3: It's still relevant, like Janet's talking.
Speaker 2: So your solar plexus is your will power and your confidence.
Speaker 2: That is like belly button type area right in there,
Speaker 2: which makes sense because if you think about body type,
Speaker 2: you know, and if you if you have confidence or not,
Speaker 2: like are you shaped properly, do you have a homy
Speaker 2: pouch pooch, you know whatever, So that makes sense for
Speaker 2: that area.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The heart chakra is love and compassion, So if you're
Speaker 2: dealing with past traumas that people hurt you emotionally, you're
Speaker 2: gonna hold it the energy in your heart area. So
Speaker 2: the heart area is going to be uh weakened and
Speaker 2: more susceptible to all of that stuff that happened. Your
Speaker 2: throats chakra, so that's your truth and communication. Third eye,
Speaker 2: which of course is your forehead, that's your intuition and
Speaker 2: your insight. And your crown chakra, which is the top
Speaker 2: of your head, is your spiritual connection. That's your connection
Speaker 2: to God.
Speaker 4: So if minor good because everything broke from the neck down.
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm so smart now.
Speaker 2: No, she is like the cockroach that just we'll die God. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't joke.
Speaker 3: No, No, it's just it's real. Yeah, but it's a
Speaker 3: real thing. Yes, it's funny.
Speaker 2: What the kundoline stuff. When it's too sudden or there's
Speaker 2: a premature awakening of these chakras and energies whatever. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's caused by trauma, intense meditation or psychedelics or the.
Speaker 3: Way Alistair Crowley did it. Don't do it like that.
Speaker 3: It's gonna hurt your butt.
Speaker 2: Exit only.
Speaker 3: To the universe is in your butt. I'm not playing well.
Speaker 2: And most occult societies, what's about the nation ritual right
Speaker 2: in the caster?
Speaker 3: No, thank you, I saw what happens when that happens.
Speaker 3: We went over it for.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, So these things and you can also get
Speaker 2: this to prematurely awaken or whatever from spontaneous energy surges,
Speaker 2: and then you get what's called the Kundalini syndrome, and
Speaker 2: that is what causes things like insomnia or exploding head
Speaker 2: syndrome type sounds. Intention energy surges emotional volatility. Hello, because
Speaker 2: your hormones are running rampant because you don't have anything.
Speaker 2: Your gaba is not working, your serotonin's not working, cortisols
Speaker 2: too high, so you're an emotional mess and your body
Speaker 2: can't stabilize. That's that's literally the common sense of explanation
Speaker 2: physical sensations like keep vibration or twitching or disorientation or
Speaker 2: anxiety again, because you're not homeostasis. All your home ones
Speaker 2: out of whack, and so you're gonna be a little
Speaker 2: great great, just saying.
Speaker 3: That's why we try not to black pill people.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, So to help yourself not have a pre awakening,
Speaker 2: not just daily grounding, but eat grounding foods. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with this because it says root, vegetables, grains, and
Speaker 2: warm meals. I would not eat grains just because we've
Speaker 2: done a show about grains before and coor quat and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I don't eat vegetables either, so this
Speaker 2: is not I like.
Speaker 3: I like a good quinoa. Quinoa is my spirit animal.
Speaker 2: If you eat beef, you're gonna get your B vitamins,
Speaker 2: so you will never be deficient in bee vitamins. And
Speaker 2: that has magnesium as well.
Speaker 3: So just saying.
Speaker 2: Avoid over stimulation, don't use caffeine, or don't do intense fasting.
Speaker 2: I don't spend too much time on the screen.
Speaker 3: I failed at the screen and the caffeine. I am
Speaker 3: a failure.
Speaker 2: Do juley and meditation. I cannot do yoga poses. My
Speaker 2: body don't work that way, so that's a no for me.
Speaker 2: And do energy healing or breath work with guidance.
Speaker 3: That's a good, that's better. But I still say bray, I,
Speaker 3: I don't know. Look into yoga stuff and the root
Speaker 3: of yoga. You might be concerned about those poses. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you guys, check it out yourself.
Speaker 2: You know the one where you put your butt straight
Speaker 2: up in there. But you know again, you're receiving that
Speaker 2: energy right through your case, your paper in the new
Speaker 2: age wavy stuff, it's a thing to sign your behind hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 4: Hard.
Speaker 2: I'm so funny. What are you doing out there in
Speaker 2: the yard?
Speaker 4: Gotta warm up my middle son? And Hi, could you
Speaker 4: imagine driving bias a neighbor? Good lord, literal, I'd be praying,
Speaker 4: Oh man, they take it too far, they take it literal.
Speaker 4: Aleister Crowley was a horrible horrible person at literalness, and
Speaker 4: it's just trickled down. He was not a good alchemist,
Speaker 4: and he took these things to mean things they didn't mean.
Speaker 3: And even a good occultist will tell you that. So
Speaker 3: I'm just going with that there just yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: too far, too far man.
Speaker 2: So the slide she has on the screen now says
Speaker 2: six ways to practice grounding with anxiety and intense emotions.
Speaker 2: So if you're working on your body, lay on the ground,
Speaker 2: pressu your toes into the floor and squeeze play dough.
Speaker 2: Or you could just lay outside of the grass, put
Speaker 2: your toes in the grass and just feel the grass.
Speaker 4: That would be helpful to We have these cool little
Speaker 4: pads for the winter that are fake grounding like the
Speaker 4: grass too.
Speaker 2: So next one is five senses. It says wear your
Speaker 2: favorite sweatshirt, use essential oils, make a cup of tea.
Speaker 2: I will say essential oils are essential in my household.
Speaker 2: I do use lots of different ones for different things.
Speaker 2: And I will say that if you are post jip
Speaker 2: jab affected to where you lost your sense of taste
Speaker 2: and smell, I have suggestions that will help you as
Speaker 2: far as those things go, so you can get a
Speaker 2: hold of me. So the next one is self soothe.
Speaker 2: Take a shower or a bath, but preferably not soak
Speaker 2: your feet in a public toilet. Find a grounding object,
Speaker 2: light a candle, or feel something soft.
Speaker 3: Alrighty, Then, if you're in Utah, you definitely own a minky.
Speaker 3: Get your minky and go get yourself a cup of
Speaker 3: hot water. I guess because you can't have to your coffee.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Coco. That is just as bad, if
Speaker 3: not worse, with more sugar.
Speaker 2: We were just talking about that today. So observe. Describe
Speaker 2: an object in detail, color, texture, shadow, light, shape, size,
Speaker 2: and weight. Breathing practice four seven eight breathing inhale to
Speaker 2: hold inhale to four, hold for seven, exhale for eight.
Speaker 2: Distract says, find all the square or green objects in
Speaker 2: the room, count by sevens and say the date.
Speaker 4: You can have six kids. You'll never have to worry
Speaker 4: about this. You will always be distracted. You will never
Speaker 4: ever have to worry about.
Speaker 3: This, I promise you.
Speaker 2: But this one may be hard for somebody. If you
Speaker 2: have to do math, so you know, might not be
Speaker 2: relaxing for some people. But these are ways to practice grounding.
Speaker 2: To stimulate your senses, which is literally exactly what meditation
Speaker 2: does or whatever. It calms your senses. And so you're
Speaker 2: focusing on certain things, focusing on your breathing, you're focusing
Speaker 2: on being centered and all of that stuff. Anyway, So
Speaker 2: exploding head studies suggest that about ten to twenty percent
Speaker 2: of people experience it at least once in their lifetime.
Speaker 2: Those who have regular sleep disruptions, the number may rise
Speaker 2: from thirty to forty percent, and in college age adults
Speaker 2: found nearly eighteen percent had experienced it. Slightly more expend Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to say it's more common in women
Speaker 2: because also more women and to have sleep paralysis and
Speaker 2: why is that?
Speaker 3: What? More women have trauma? So too, right, And.
Speaker 2: We're very emotional and sensory as as females go, and
Speaker 2: so that would make sense to me that happens in
Speaker 2: the female population more.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't remember my dreams. I'm not too
Speaker 3: good at female. I am one, And yeah, I get it,
Speaker 3: say I do get the head thing more the body,
Speaker 3: but same thing.
Speaker 2: So women also because stress, like high levels of stress
Speaker 2: because you're doing you're a multitasker, right, so you've also
Speaker 2: gotten hundreds of different things going on at once.
Speaker 3: Them kids. That's what I'm selling you guys.
Speaker 2: Menstruation stuff like that mess up your sleep cycle as
Speaker 2: well and your body cycle. So that makes sense. Messy
Speaker 2: Why many people don't report it because they think it's
Speaker 2: just a dream or a loud noise. They imagine it
Speaker 2: blah blah. They're embarrassed, or they assume it's a sign
Speaker 2: of something more serious, so they avoid talking about it
Speaker 2: because they don't want to know. So the instances of
Speaker 2: cases is kind of like reporting data in the BEAR
Speaker 2: system for vaccine injuries. The data is very skewed on this.
Speaker 2: So in my personal opinion, the amount of people that
Speaker 2: probably have experienced this is way more than the ten
Speaker 2: to twenty percent of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of people that are like, man,
Speaker 4: it's fine, yeah, happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so the slide that she has is about
Speaker 2: the Kundalini again with the snake and the chakras all
Speaker 2: lit up. You're sorry about that, and so again, as
Speaker 2: a kundolaneous, your spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and that's when
Speaker 2: your snake is supposed to crawl through your body in
Speaker 2: a coil shape and I.
Speaker 3: Don't have a snake. I'm voting I don't have a snake.
Speaker 2: Light up everything. Yeah, I don't want I don't know
Speaker 2: sneak in mine either. Honestly, that's a no go for me.
Speaker 3: Fatter spiders, I'm good. Yep.
Speaker 2: So this has origins all the way back to the
Speaker 2: nineteenth century. In nineteen eighty six it was discovered by
Speaker 2: a Welsh physician named Silas Weir Mitchell, who described the
Speaker 2: patients as hearing loud gunshot like noises in the head
Speaker 2: as they fell asleep. He called them sensory discharges and
Speaker 2: knows just that they weren't linked to any he pain
Speaker 2: or any kind of ear problems. And so this is
Speaker 2: the way back in eighteen hundreds it was a thing.
Speaker 3: This is mister Silas.
Speaker 2: So good thing. He discovered this because a lot of
Speaker 2: people when I'm sure if you go in with this,
Speaker 2: a doctor is going to go, you know what, it's
Speaker 2: all on your head, you're imagining things. It's psychosoma all
Speaker 2: in my head or it's in my ass.
Speaker 3: That you could go in and say I have a
Speaker 3: snake in my ass and he might listen.
Speaker 2: All exactly and you know what is what is the
Speaker 2: sign for the medical community exactly, which is a serpent
Speaker 2: on there. So so in the twentieth century, sporadic reports
Speaker 2: appeared throughout the early nineteen hundreds, usually under big terms
Speaker 2: like snapping up the brain or nocturnal head noises that
Speaker 2: just means noises at night.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They didn't have a name for it, but they did
Speaker 2: recognize it again as benign, but it was a strange phenomenon,
Speaker 2: so nineteen eighties. The modern name exploding head syndrome actually
Speaker 2: was first introduced by British neurologist doctor John MS. Pierce.
Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty eight. He published a detailed description of
Speaker 2: several patients who recorded the sudden, loud noises or explosions
Speaker 2: in their head as they fell asleep. He emphasized again
Speaker 2: it was harmless, though alarming, and not related to headaches
Speaker 2: or seizure activity. What was it?
Speaker 3: I didn't grab his photo? Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: That's all right, I'm just that one. So in the
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties to two thousand's it was actually classified as
Speaker 2: a parasomnia, which means a sleep transition disorder, so it
Speaker 2: was first put in that category during that time frame.
Speaker 2: The American Academy of Sleep Medicine used it as their
Speaker 2: International classification of sleep disorders or ic SD three as
Speaker 2: a particular distinct diagnosis. So it took from the early
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds all the way until the late two thousands
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 3: That's because people were like, it's not really that serious,
Speaker 3: but cool name bro.
Speaker 2: Right, of course, So interest is growing in this field
Speaker 2: because they still don't understand it. They don't know what
Speaker 2: causes that. They're literally guessing, educated guessing or not educated
Speaker 2: guessing in my opinion, to understand what's going on between
Speaker 2: the sensory misfiring and spirituality and all of those things.
Speaker 2: Are they all connected? Are they interconnected? Does one have
Speaker 2: anything to do with the other one? And so they're
Speaker 2: doing a lot of studies in this now so cool anyway,
Speaker 2: Who other hormones that may cause a role in besides
Speaker 2: the one I said with the cortisol That other hormones
Speaker 2: may cause a role in this exploding head syndrome? Are
Speaker 2: adrenaline or epinephrine, melatonin, serotonin, estrogenin progesterone. Again, why it's
Speaker 2: more common in women PMS perimenopause or menopause age women,
Speaker 2: it's more common with them and like I said earlier,
Speaker 2: one of the things they suggested was to take a
Speaker 2: channel blocker or calcium blocker. Calcium channel blocker if you
Speaker 2: have frequent episodes of the exploding head syndrome stuff. But
Speaker 2: because it shuts down the calcium entering your cells, it
Speaker 2: affects your adrenal glands. And where is corge solve manufactured
Speaker 2: adrenal glands? Where does your adrenaline and epinet or to
Speaker 2: originate in your adrenal glands your fight or flight hormones?
Speaker 2: So would I do that? No, because you're gonna compound
Speaker 2: your problem and make it worse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so, unless this was like literally
Speaker 4: affecting your real life, like on a serious level.
Speaker 2: And you'll have to read that, because oh.
Speaker 3: It's the same.
Speaker 4: I'm just going through. I'm just putting them up as
Speaker 4: you're talking. This is just about cortisol levels. Again, we've
Speaker 4: had it up.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that it's so small I can't read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're good, you're good. I just put them
Speaker 3: out there while you're talking.
Speaker 2: So tips to holistic balance, consistent bedtime, So go to
Speaker 2: bed at the same time every night, Like if you
Speaker 2: set a goal at ten o'clock, go to bed at
Speaker 2: ten o'clock and wake up at the same time every morning.
Speaker 2: It's going to be rough for a while, especially if
Speaker 2: you're a night owl or an early bird, but that's
Speaker 2: going to after a while, reset your system to train
Speaker 2: itself to get used to that, and then you won't
Speaker 2: need an alarm clock anymore because your body will be
Speaker 2: so used to regulating that way. Again. Limit caffeine, blue lights,
Speaker 2: so screen time and stimulants in the evening, practice grounding
Speaker 2: or breathwork. Use adaptogens, which is another word for holistic
Speaker 2: type things, and so magnesium glycinate or three in eight
Speaker 2: are a good idea. Ash waganda or rhodelia or holy basil,
Speaker 2: and you can actually either take capsules, you can take liquids,
Speaker 2: or you can make tea's out of those kind of things.
Speaker 2: Holy basil makes a really good tea, but and it
Speaker 2: also has no caffeine, so you're going to be hitting
Speaker 2: several of those sensory things with the Holy Basil and ashwaganda.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna skip the whole use the SSRIs type thing
Speaker 2: because I'm not a fan. I don't think they're necessary.
Speaker 2: And that's the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
Speaker 3: Not for this.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're going to take those medicines, you
Speaker 4: need a really legitimate reason.
Speaker 2: And I was gonna say to me, the reason why
Speaker 2: they're prescribing these for patients is because they think the
Speaker 2: patient is nuts. Again, it's psychismatic. It's all in your head.
Speaker 2: You're not experiencing these things. What you're telling me is
Speaker 2: they don't believe you. That's why they're putting you on
Speaker 2: those medications. It's literally not because you're hearing noises. They
Speaker 2: think you're nuts. Yeah, so they're gonna diagnose you in
Speaker 2: your chart as psychotic, anxious, depressed, whatever. When you're not
Speaker 2: you're experiencing something. So some the SSRIs, if you have
Speaker 2: patient has already been on them or whatever, they are
Speaker 2: holy hell terror to get off of, and you will
Speaker 2: have brains, apps and electrical shop feelings. You'll may have
Speaker 2: feelings of like water running down your leg, or sensations
Speaker 2: like somebody's like tipping tapping with their fingertips down your
Speaker 2: leg or down your back or whatever. So coming off
Speaker 2: of an SSRI can actually be one of the medications
Speaker 2: that causes these problems, which is funny because they want
Speaker 2: to prescribe it to you for having it, but if
Speaker 2: you're exiting off of it, it can also cause these.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean perfect, it's they should only be giving
Speaker 4: those for, in my opinion, for what they should be
Speaker 4: used for in my opinion, which is depression and stuff like.
Speaker 3: That's the point where they're appropriate.
Speaker 4: Even though they do this for smoking, they do this
Speaker 4: for heads apps, they do this for all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 4: And I just think, you know, we've got more than
Speaker 4: half the population in America at least on them.
Speaker 3: And do I think everyone needs them? No? Do I
Speaker 3: think people need them? Yes?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, And the withdrawal from the NSSRI, it's
Speaker 2: worse than withdrawing from the anifiot or from narcotics. And
Speaker 2: about it's whatever I'm regarded. So other medications that could
Speaker 2: cause the exploding head syndrome stuff are also a class
Speaker 2: of antidepressants. It's triatal depressant. Any kinds of benzo diazepines
Speaker 2: like danax vallium.
Speaker 3: Is the other half of the population.
Speaker 2: And don't take those squanapon, all of those kind of
Speaker 2: things because those are very highly over prescribed as well.
Speaker 4: I do not believe in any benzodiazepines that should be
Speaker 4: given unless they're extremely watched because they build in your
Speaker 4: system and they're terrifying.
Speaker 2: And coming off of those again is literally awful. It's
Speaker 2: it's just as bad as alcohol withdrawal.
Speaker 4: Unless you're going through alcohol withdrawal or certain other things.
Speaker 4: I just feel like they're vastly addicting people to them.
Speaker 2: One hundred other medications that can cause this to happen
Speaker 2: is ADHD, medications that have stimulants in them, which there
Speaker 2: are new ones that supposedly don't have a stimulant in them,
Speaker 2: but remember they rename and repurpose medications, so do they
Speaker 2: really not have a stimulant, I don't know whatever. Antihistamines
Speaker 2: can also cause the problem, or medications that are sleep
Speaker 2: aids because it causes the same kind of problems with
Speaker 2: your brain synapses. So of course, never stop an SSRI.
Speaker 2: Suddenly you gotta taper off. The doctor needs to taper
Speaker 2: you off because they got to keep a close eye
Speaker 2: on you because they are dangerous. You can have a
Speaker 2: heart attack from coming off of an SSRI. Make sure
Speaker 2: you watch magnesium levels and all of those kind of things.
Speaker 2: All that's going on as well.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: Other triggers for exploding head is the sleep deprivation, the
Speaker 2: sudden wakening if you wake up frequently during the night,
Speaker 2: so you don't have a consistent pattern of sleep cycle
Speaker 2: because you have to get up and pee, or you're
Speaker 2: constantly waking up because you're too hot or whatever. Sleep paralysis,
Speaker 2: jet leg shift work. Anybody that works nights or swing
Speaker 2: tips right, and then they change you the days, and
Speaker 2: then they change you to nights again, same kind of thing.
Speaker 2: High cortisol, adrenaline, anxiety, grief, trauma, burnout, over stimulation. Our
Speaker 2: particular activating system is activated when your stress levels are
Speaker 2: all of the time, and so that's what controls your
Speaker 2: arousal and your alertness. When that happens, your brain is
Speaker 2: like on hyperdrive, mis firing. This synapses all the time,
Speaker 2: so that can happen as well. With drawing from nictine
Speaker 2: or alcohol, migraines. If you get frequent migraines, you can
Speaker 2: also experience these kind of things. Any problems with your
Speaker 2: ear or the inner ear, all the little bones and
Speaker 2: your inner ear can cause problems with that or any
Speaker 2: kind of brainstem problem, neurological tumors, things like that that
Speaker 2: cause again problems with your whatever.
Speaker 3: Show there we go, Hm, lots of stuff on that.
Speaker 2: Yes, So to me, it's very uber interesting about that
Speaker 2: and about you know that it became a thing and
Speaker 2: there's so many people that experience it and and different
Speaker 2: levels of experience. But that it's tied to sleep paralysis
Speaker 2: is interesting to me.
Speaker 3: Why so watch your silver cord.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't let someone se for that because that's
Speaker 2: exactly Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, No, next one is fascinating.
Speaker 2: It is. We're going to move on now to spontaneous combustion.
Speaker 3: It's bananas, so trigger warning. I guess I should have
Speaker 3: said before I put that up there. There's grewsome pictures.
Speaker 4: You've got a ton of them because there's not a
Speaker 4: ton of them. Yeah, they quit happening all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: which is really weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for people who don't know, spontaneous human combustion
Speaker 2: is a term for people used for cases where a
Speaker 2: person seems to have burned badly while the surrounding room
Speaker 2: or furniture remained intact or mostly intact. It's a forensic mystery.
Speaker 2: But wink wink, there is no scientific evidence that a
Speaker 2: body can suddenly ignite from without without an eternal external
Speaker 2: heat source.
Speaker 4: So we have no idea why this shit happens. And
Speaker 4: this used to be all the rage. Now it's not,
Speaker 4: like I said.
Speaker 2: Seventies and especially in the eighties, there were literally cases
Speaker 2: of this all of the time, being reported all over
Speaker 2: CBS nightly news, and you know, all the news channels,
Speaker 2: the newspapers, the whole nine yards. And it says over
Speaker 2: the last few centuries, a few dozen incidents have been described,
Speaker 2: usually someone found burned, often in a bed or in
Speaker 2: a chair, with the torso of the limbs largely destroyed
Speaker 2: but little damage to the rest of the room. Many
Speaker 2: of these reports come all the way back from the
Speaker 2: seventeen hundred to eighteen hundreds, before modern fire investigation techniques.
Speaker 2: So here's where it gets interest weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last time someone died of this was in
Speaker 3: twenty ten.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, this is how happened, like gaslighting
Speaker 2: at its finest. Okay, because now when you research this
Speaker 2: and look it up, like everybody died inside of the
Speaker 2: apartment or whatever. No, No, it didn't happen that way.
Speaker 2: Because in the eighties, when this was a prevalent thing
Speaker 2: and I mean common, there would be cases of this,
Speaker 2: people exploding or catching on fire out in public.
Speaker 4: And people saw them, like other people witness these people
Speaker 4: just randomly set the flame.
Speaker 2: Yes, so are we having the Mandela effect? Are we
Speaker 2: having massive gas lighting? Because they're like, oh, that never happened.
Speaker 2: There's never been a document case of anybody catching fire
Speaker 2: out in public. Stories were probably faked and sensationalized. Well,
Speaker 2: Heidie and I are close in age, and we can
Speaker 2: tell you that that was a common thing.
Speaker 4: It was all the rage, Yeah it was, and it
Speaker 4: was on like Paraldo. Wow, my computer loves to do
Speaker 4: that sometimes all the time. Yeah, it was on all
Speaker 4: these things. But it's weird because look at how down
Speaker 4: to ash this person is, Like, it's weird.
Speaker 2: And the okay, so the picture that she's got hot
Speaker 2: on the screen from the thighs, like right below the
Speaker 2: growing down the legs are completely fine, they're not burned whatever.
Speaker 2: But from the pelvis all the way up to the
Speaker 2: top of the head and the arms, they're completely burnt
Speaker 2: and gone to ash.
Speaker 3: And the legs are like a lot of times left behind,
Speaker 3: which is so weird.
Speaker 2: So and how does that happen? So let me tell
Speaker 2: you what scientists assume. Don't assume because it makes an
Speaker 2: ass out of you and me, right, anybody that's ever
Speaker 2: heard that. The most acceptable explanation for this is the
Speaker 2: wick effect. A small external flame like a dropped cigarette,
Speaker 2: a candle, or an ember, knights the person's clothing. As
Speaker 2: the body fat melts, the fabric acts like a wick
Speaker 2: and a candle, sustaining a slow smoldering fire that can
Speaker 2: consume much of the body over several hours. Because the
Speaker 2: fire is localized in low flame, the room itself may
Speaker 2: not ignite. Laboratory experiments and forensic reconstructions have confirmed this
Speaker 2: can happen. Now, I'm just gonna say this now, furniture, clothing,
Speaker 2: couches are all flame retarded. Yeah, back in the era
Speaker 2: when we grew up, that was not a thing. So
Speaker 2: that is a very flawed theory from the get go.
Speaker 2: That can't happen, and it would take hours, and you know,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't burn anything else in the room. That is
Speaker 2: bullshit because it would literally tortured into house in three
Speaker 2: minutes back in the day because nothing was So I
Speaker 2: can be not right, So it says. Other contributing factors
Speaker 2: to the wick effect can be alcohol or sedatives. They
Speaker 2: reduce inhibititions and awareness, so victims don't react quickly to
Speaker 2: small flames. Okay, so now everybody's drunk or sedated, right,
Speaker 2: of course they are. That makes perfect sense. Limited auction
Speaker 2: oxygen flow, so smoldering rather than open the flame keeps
Speaker 2: the fire contained and so it won't spread anywhere. Okay. Yes,
Speaker 2: the clothing material is synthetic or absorbed fabric. It holds
Speaker 2: more melted fat. Again, back in the day, looks.
Speaker 3: Like it would definitely set the hell on fire. Honey,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's a fuzzy, weird seventies eighties rug. It
Speaker 3: definitely looks like it should have started on fire. I'll
Speaker 3: give it a crap what they say.
Speaker 2: Right, and I was gonna stay judging from the look
Speaker 2: of her shoe, they don't make shoes like that now,
Speaker 2: so this is an old thing. When, of course, again
Speaker 2: things were not flame retardant, that whole room would have
Speaker 2: and like.
Speaker 4: O yester outfit should have been gone bro like it
Speaker 4: burns like have you ever seen a tent catch on fire?
Speaker 4: It takes two point nine seconds for that whole thing to.
Speaker 3: Go up like no.
Speaker 2: So other contributing factors to the wick effect, they said,
Speaker 2: are discarded theories, like an electrical build up or ball lightning,
Speaker 2: spontaneous combustion from the body's chemistry. They have no experimental backing,
Speaker 2: so they're saying that that can't happen. That it's full shit.
Speaker 2: The human body contains too much water, so it can't
Speaker 2: reach ignition temperatures internally without an external source.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they're full of shit.
Speaker 2: So contributing to this that with the Wick effect also
Speaker 2: was like faulty heaters, doves, scandals, static electricity, or sparks.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I literally shocked my
Speaker 2: husband every night before he goes to bed and goes
Speaker 2: to get me a kiss. Static electricity is right, I
Speaker 2: might uh so, neurological or behavioral triggers that can directly
Speaker 2: affect the Wick effect sleep disturbances. Again, if you've got
Speaker 2: exploding head syndrome, you might catch on fire. According to
Speaker 2: the scientist, right seizures or uh other states like exploding
Speaker 2: head syndromes that are their sleep disturbance causes, like insomnia, hypersomnia,
Speaker 2: things like that can.
Speaker 3: All cause it.
Speaker 2: Some metaphysical manifestations of extreme enery energy or the Kundalini
Speaker 2: force of the coiled snake can actually contribute to uh,
Speaker 2: the external Wick effect.
Speaker 3: Hm hm. They sound like they're they sound like they're
Speaker 3: just making crap up. Yeah, sorry that mm hm.
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna say bullogy and bs that they
Speaker 2: think that is the thing in a core your energy
Speaker 2: is so highlighting and it's snaking its way up through
Speaker 2: your chakras and your high frequency, that you lit a
Speaker 2: candle and it sparked you on fire.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, ignore my thousand windows. Of course, my computer
Speaker 4: likes to not download the pictures because they're gruesome.
Speaker 3: Keep talking exactly.
Speaker 2: So Forensically, what they're saying is local investigators usually find
Speaker 2: an ignitioning source like a cigarette heater, candle, et cetera,
Speaker 2: signs of prolonged smoldering, soot straining upward on the walls,
Speaker 2: melted plastic things like that, evidence that the person was
Speaker 2: emobile or unconscious while the fire was burning. Well, again,
Speaker 2: I called bys because there were people that were walking
Speaker 2: around in public that were very mobile because they were
Speaker 2: walking when they caught fire.
Speaker 3: And people saw it. That's the thing. People actually saw
Speaker 3: this whole thing go down. So what about that? Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: You take it for what you think it's worth, but
Speaker 2: it says why it feels quote unquote spontaneous because the
Speaker 2: ignition source may burn out early and the fire continues
Speaker 2: to spread inward rather than outward. Witness rarely sees flames,
Speaker 2: so when the remains are found, it looks as if
Speaker 2: a cobustion. It started out of nowhere. Again, hello gas
Speaker 2: lighting my eye.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just feel like the way that they burn on these,
Speaker 4: like the pattern of these, it's just very strange. Like
Speaker 4: Janet said, and yeah, I see, Okay, that person was
Speaker 4: by the fireplace. But this dude here, Uh, he's only
Speaker 4: got his shoes left.
Speaker 3: He's completely gone. He's a pile of dust. Literally.
Speaker 2: Think about this picture and the previous discussion we had
Speaker 2: about the air weaving in your butt mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: And look at where they're always burned. And I get
Speaker 4: that you hold a lot of heat.
Speaker 2: There, but the heat come on the chaps gone. Is
Speaker 2: it because of the methane gas that comes from eating cows?
Speaker 4: I mean, like, if it's that, fine, But what about
Speaker 4: this chair, Like that's synthetic.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's not flame or tardan.
Speaker 2: Let's get real, no, because judging from the chair being
Speaker 2: that a really ugly orange and the carpet is orange
Speaker 2: and brown.
Speaker 3: Seventies eighties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was like my ear growing up. Everything
Speaker 2: was that those.
Speaker 4: So yep, and it just seems like it's it's something
Speaker 4: that they're trying hard to make everybody not know about.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at this, this this rug, the shag rug,
Speaker 4: which is definitely not flame retardant.
Speaker 3: We're talking seventies for sure here.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, look at the couch probably fifties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is like the guy is like gone
Speaker 3: right right, and.
Speaker 2: And such a high heat level that like all of
Speaker 2: the skin, all of the muscle is gone, and like
Speaker 2: it's it's basically ash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just all. But never the feet, the feet
Speaker 3: are spared. Weird, super weird.
Speaker 2: You think that's because it's the root chakra.
Speaker 4: I think that's because, well I got some I'm a
Speaker 4: conspiracy theorist, so you know some things.
Speaker 2: So again with the spiritual or symbolic view, right, fire
Speaker 2: is the symbol of purification or transformation, and so in
Speaker 2: some circles they believed that these people again, that their
Speaker 2: energy was so high vibing and it was swirling up
Speaker 2: through them so rapidly. In the Cundolini effect that it
Speaker 2: had cast that it caused a Cundolini fire.
Speaker 3: Also, how come they're all old? That's very good, A
Speaker 3: little weird mm hmmm. They trying to get people off
Speaker 3: social security. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I have theories, so same bottom line. It says there's
Speaker 2: no verified case of approaching person catching fire without an
Speaker 2: external spark or the Wick effect. Most modern forensic scientists
Speaker 2: agree that the Wick effect plus an ignition source and
Speaker 2: long and smoldering is the real explanation for every single
Speaker 2: known case.
Speaker 3: Okay, b ys, hmmm, I don't know about this. You know,
Speaker 3: there was one young one I didn't. I didn't look
Speaker 3: this up for because I didn't think about it until
Speaker 3: we were going through these. Some guy named Rahul from
Speaker 3: India caught fire four different times. This is bananas.
Speaker 4: The first time when he was nine days old. Could
Speaker 4: you imagine your baby just starting on fire. That's some shit.
Speaker 4: M h you'd be afraid to sleep.
Speaker 3: Ever, and they said there was no external source in
Speaker 3: this case, so.
Speaker 4: Like you'd lie in FBI or whoever made the last one.
Speaker 4: And then it said you know that this happened to
Speaker 4: him four total times.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 2: What for it to strike the same person more than once,
Speaker 2: over and over again. That was going They're going, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry that you know it has to be an external
Speaker 2: spark from a cigarette or a flame or lighter candle,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Where are you going to find that
Speaker 2: in a hospital.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even know.
Speaker 3: That's so wild, that scary. I didn't know that there'd
Speaker 3: been people that did it more than once, like you,
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I had no I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Wow. So nineteen eighty two, twenty thirteen on that, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It happened more than one time.
Speaker 3: For yeah, extensive testing extent. They are saying complete, extensive
Speaker 3: testing was done and that it was witnessed when this happened,
Speaker 3: So they weren't leaving their baby by the.
Speaker 4: Fireplace and stuff. This is crazy, And they said that.
Speaker 4: Eventually they basically had to give up and say they
Speaker 4: didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 2: Sorry, the three letter agencies will explain it away and
Speaker 2: say everybody has a candle or a lighter going.
Speaker 3: Wild. Okay.
Speaker 2: So nineteen eighty two, the case of Genie Saffin, a
Speaker 2: sixty one year old woman from London, was very much
Speaker 2: in the news. She was found burning in her kitchen,
Speaker 2: with her body severely damaged and the surrounding area relatively unaffected.
Speaker 2: The innate incident, I.
Speaker 3: Cannot talk today, that's okay.
Speaker 2: Reignited discussions about spontaneous combustion, leading to increased media coverage
Speaker 2: and public fascination. Additionally, the nineteen eighty saw the publication
Speaker 2: of several books and articles exploring it. John Hamer wrote
Speaker 2: a book in nineteen ninety six called The Entrancing Flame,
Speaker 2: which examined cases like hers and multiple others. And that was,
Speaker 2: like I said, the eighties, and there was heightened interest
Speaker 2: in the cases because people were actually talking about it again. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wow, So there's a mess from that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy to me.
Speaker 3: And you know what's crazy to me is half my
Speaker 3: pictures are missing. But that's okay.
Speaker 2: They don't want us talking about those because there's some
Speaker 2: other explanations.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, why are they just gone to I
Speaker 3: downloaded them? That's weird, okay.
Speaker 2: So nineteen seventy eighty nine year old Margaret Hogan was
Speaker 2: found burned to death in her home. Remains where severely charred,
Speaker 2: yet her feet and legs below the knees were relatively untouched.
Speaker 3: That was the lady with the foot.
Speaker 2: They said a small coal fire had been burning in
Speaker 2: a great previous day, but no direct link between the
Speaker 2: fire and her death was ever established. Court cause of
Speaker 2: death was unknown unknown.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine getting that phone call hello, mm hm so.
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy nine, Beatrice Altskiling or bowling Brook, Illinois, on
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving weekend, she was fifty one years old, was found
Speaker 2: charred to death in her home. Circumstances of her death
Speaker 2: remained unclear, with no definitive explanation of the fire that
Speaker 2: consumed her. Nineteen eighty, Henry Thomas in Vale, South Wales,
Speaker 2: was found burned to death in his living room. His
Speaker 2: remains were reduced to ashes, having only his skull and
Speaker 2: a portion of each leg below the knee. The fire
Speaker 2: was intense and half the chair in which he had
Speaker 2: been sitting was also destroyed. The cause of the fire
Speaker 2: remains unexplained. That's his right here and he is definitely.
Speaker 3: Burn up. You can't even see what's what on this one.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: SO I asked about a reported public cases not in
Speaker 2: people's homes, and it said there are a few sensationalized stories,
Speaker 2: mostly media reports from seventies and eighties of people allectually
Speaker 2: catching fire while sitting in a park or walking on
Speaker 2: the street or standing in a room. These reports are
Speaker 2: second hand newspaper stories, hearsay, or a brief witness account,
Speaker 2: and forensic documentation is minimal or not existent, probably because
Speaker 2: they destroyed it because they literally interviewed people on the
Speaker 2: news that sawd no one.
Speaker 3: No one is telling the truth, or they're drunk or
Speaker 3: high er whatever.
Speaker 2: So outside of the wick effect and the alcohol or
Speaker 2: sedative impairment, tightly flammable clothing, which, like I said, it
Speaker 2: was flammable back in the day, but that's not gonna
Speaker 2: just burn a portion of everybody. Like Heidi mentioned the pajamas,
Speaker 2: that was a big thing because people were, you know,
Speaker 2: getting sparks from the fireplace or whatever and they go
Speaker 2: up to your.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So for a fire like that to burn, it would
Speaker 2: have to burn every part of you that had pajamas on,
Speaker 2: you know, And these people have parts of their limbs
Speaker 2: still there and untouched an unburnt, So that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: The next explanation, which I love this, it says witness
Speaker 2: miss perception. So from a distance, slowly smoldering can look
Speaker 2: like spontaneous flames can appear suddenly if fat ignites, So
Speaker 2: if you're overweight, you should watch out for spontaneous combustion.
Speaker 2: According to the scientific explanations, right, smoke and reflections can
Speaker 2: exaggerate the effect. So basically, they're saying that people that
Speaker 2: actually witness this are having a misperception or misinterpretation or
Speaker 2: misremembering what they say.
Speaker 3: You remember that wrong, even though that's like super traumatic.
Speaker 2: Okay, well that would be a very traumatic thing, and
Speaker 2: then they would probably end up going to counseling and whatever.
Speaker 3: Just reely see that, did you? This person is caught
Speaker 3: on flames.
Speaker 2: This is so again they're gas lighting. They're gaslighting the
Speaker 2: witnesses who saw it happen, and then all the documentation
Speaker 2: disappeared bananas crazy to me. So they say it's not
Speaker 2: truly spontaneous. There's no verified cases where it actually happened
Speaker 2: without an external spark bolony. Again, so during another period
Speaker 2: of research conducted, there were several studies conducted with extensive
Speaker 2: studies on alleged spontaneous combustion cases and their plausible explanations
Speaker 2: often again come back to it's had to be cigarettes,
Speaker 2: candles qualty, electrical equipment, the Wick effect, like nothing else
Speaker 2: could have possibly happened. Okay, so here's my thoughts. My
Speaker 2: first thought was directed energy weapons. Oh, because you know,
Speaker 2: like even during the COVID stuff and whatever, like Angela
Speaker 2: Merkel from Germany and whatnot, like she would be fine
Speaker 2: and talking during a speech and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: like something would happen and she would pass out or faint.
Speaker 2: That happens all the time. It happens to people with
Speaker 2: Havana syndrome and whatever. Where they have the technology that
Speaker 2: they have ultrasonic weapons and things like that to use
Speaker 2: during wars, and so that was my very first thought.
Speaker 2: It's directed energy weapons. And of course they wouldn't want
Speaker 2: that information getting out to the that they're targeting people
Speaker 2: and setting them on fire, so of course all the
Speaker 2: witness accounts would disappear.
Speaker 4: And these seem to be people that are older in
Speaker 4: life for the most part, so it's curious to me
Speaker 4: and possible that they're just doing that so that they
Speaker 4: can get rid of people they either know something or whatever.
Speaker 3: But like then they're older, So then a lot of
Speaker 3: times people go, well, you know, he was old anyway,
Speaker 3: and it goes away. And why not.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at all through history where they've experimented
Speaker 2: on our population with all different kinds of things, with mold, fungus, toxins,
Speaker 2: sexually transmitted things. So do I put this outside of
Speaker 2: the scope that this couldn't possibly happen. No, No, that's
Speaker 2: a very first thing I thought of, especially when they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: we scrubbed all the witness accounts, there's nothing available, nothing
Speaker 2: to see here, and nobody saw these things happen. It's
Speaker 2: only in people's homes where they're close to a candle.
Speaker 3: Okay, huh. And it just seems to me that it's
Speaker 3: a little too easy, right, That's just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what these people knew. They probably knew
Speaker 4: about JFK or something. Who knows, Like, it seems to
Speaker 4: me that there's a reason for certain people. I bet
Speaker 4: if we looked back in all these people's like history
Speaker 4: or whatever, they knew something somewhere about something, that's my guess.
Speaker 3: And you know about my.
Speaker 4: Asthma attack that I had where I turned completely red
Speaker 4: and ePIE didn't work, and nothing worked, and it was
Speaker 4: in the middle of the night while I was sleeping.
Speaker 4: I hadn't eaten or drink anything, which is completely bananas,
Speaker 4: and I felt like I was burning. That was literally
Speaker 4: why I had my husband.
Speaker 3: Called nine to one one. So I'm not saying like,
Speaker 3: which is that for me? But it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and that doesn't I mean, those kind of
Speaker 2: things don't happen at night, per se, while you're sleeping,
Speaker 2: because your respirations slow down at night.
Speaker 4: And I hadn't eaten or drink anything because I had
Speaker 4: done work the night before, So you get a little
Speaker 4: weird about food.
Speaker 3: It was over ten hours.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's impossible. I'm not allergic to bees or
Speaker 4: any insects nothing. There is no other explanation even that.
Speaker 3: The er doctor was like, sorry, I can't.
Speaker 2: Help you here. And so outside of the directed energy weapons,
Speaker 2: because they have different kinds of technology, right, so they
Speaker 2: have military lasers that are used for blinding sensors or
Speaker 2: shooting down drones. If you think that that is the
Speaker 2: only thing that those lasers are purpose for. I have
Speaker 2: some property to sell you in the middle of the Pacific.
Speaker 3: And what if it's not even about like a particular person,
Speaker 3: what if it's like an off spark. Oh oops, we
Speaker 3: were one grid over. Sorry, elderly.
Speaker 2: We were trying to get the guy in three B
Speaker 2: sorry about that, or we.
Speaker 3: Were trying to get down this unidentified object and blew
Speaker 3: up Harry.
Speaker 2: I don't know, And so that capability exists. They've also
Speaker 2: got high powered microwaves that are used to disable electronics,
Speaker 2: amongst other things that of course they don't want you
Speaker 2: to know because DARP is very secretive. They have active
Speaker 2: denial systems or ADS, which are crowd control microwave systems
Speaker 2: that create a burning sensation on the skin but does
Speaker 2: not ignite things.
Speaker 3: And this has been used and you guys can go
Speaker 3: look up these videos where it shows.
Speaker 4: It being used and it's very effective we'll say it
Speaker 4: that way against thousands.
Speaker 2: And their crowd control things. And how do you suppose
Speaker 2: that they would test this particular ADS system or crowd
Speaker 2: control without testing it on people? Right, I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: use your brain, use some common sense.
Speaker 4: Not possible, Like curiosity's got me, Like, were these people
Speaker 4: recently diagnosed with things where they were going to die
Speaker 4: and so the government was like, Eh, he's going to
Speaker 4: die anyway?
Speaker 2: Or did they just randomly pick someone? Are they eliminated?
Speaker 3: And they're all old?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 3: I mean, not all the but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's crazy to me. So for me,
Speaker 2: I would say I'd be more leaning toward darker projects
Speaker 2: and military grade weapons and stuff that because the technology
Speaker 2: is so secretive. These are the only three that are listed,
Speaker 2: but you know they have plenty more that they've already used.
Speaker 2: And like I said, they've tested technology on human beings
Speaker 2: since the inception of the DoD.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, yep, And they're not going
Speaker 3: to tell us that that's crazy.
Speaker 2: So it's not a shocker or whatever, because you know,
Speaker 2: even the dues are designed to disable equipment, cause temporary pain,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, but not to incinerate a person. And
Speaker 2: they kept reiterating dues are not meant to incinerate a person. Okay,
Speaker 2: if you have to tell me that over and over again,
Speaker 2: what does that tell me? I'm just saying, because like
Speaker 2: every article that I read and stuff, I'm like, why
Speaker 2: does the phrase keep popping up that again and again? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, this smells fishy. I'm just gonna see it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So they're saying it can't happen. They're saying these things
Speaker 2: aren't being used on people. Again, use your own thought
Speaker 2: and see what you think about that. But you know,
Speaker 2: we have incendiary devices like napalm, white, phosphorus, thermite, there's
Speaker 2: literally all kinds of things that will catch fire, spark fire.
Speaker 2: So can I see them using phosphorus or thermite or
Speaker 2: something like that with the do absolutely? I mean, look
Speaker 2: at the stuff they spray in the sky, so it's
Speaker 2: metallic in nature. Be that hard to wipe out people
Speaker 2: if you want to do?
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. So bottom line is gaslighting on
Speaker 2: this one as well. It didn't happen. People didn't see
Speaker 2: what they saw. Everybody that was alive back then didn't
Speaker 2: read reports, didn't see reports, didn't see video of stuff happening.
Speaker 2: It didn't happen. Look away, So you know, look over
Speaker 2: here it's Project Bluebeam M or look over here, this
Speaker 2: deal just got signed or something. So they're just literally
Speaker 2: making stuff up and giving explanations for things that they
Speaker 2: have no explanation for, or telling you to trust the
Speaker 2: science and trust that trust the.
Speaker 3: Experts, trust their truth.
Speaker 2: No thanks, then you're gonna block that that truth chakra
Speaker 2: in your throat, right, you know, Yeah, if you're into that,
Speaker 2: don't do that because uh yeah, you'll have all kinds
Speaker 2: of problems. This was a crazy one, sister too, I know.
Speaker 3: And the next one is even more weird, like we're
Speaker 3: getting we're getting weird, so you guys, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: know this one that there was the normal.
Speaker 4: The head thing kind of reminded me more of like
Speaker 4: a normal medical discussion. Then we get into burning bodies
Speaker 4: and the next one's just bananas.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the next one is crazy great but works
Speaker 2: out well because we're getting closer and closer to creepy
Speaker 2: season day and so looking forward to that discussion. It's
Speaker 2: going to be gross and graphic and disgusting and all
Speaker 2: the things for all of you people. So Kene, Heidi,
Speaker 2: where can they can find you at my Beautiful Friend.
Speaker 3: Of course, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: I always enjoy these, this one, especially with the creepy
Speaker 4: season going on. It's perfect timing. So hopefully we grossed
Speaker 4: you guys out. Let me know, give us some feedback.
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Speaker 3: Just had a live with JJ and for those that
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Speaker 4: Anytime you give a clip instead of a photo, they
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Speaker 3: So it's a pain. Anyway, catch me hopefully.
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Speaker 2: want to say, go out there and get that energy
Speaker 2: in your butt if you need.
Speaker 3: It, just don't do it your booty not like that.
Speaker 3: That's why they made g strings legal because people, Oh no, anyway,
Speaker 3: we'll leave it alone. Back in the day that wasn't
Speaker 3: allowed having your whole butt hangout in the middle of
Speaker 3: this you know, surfing swimmer wherever.
Speaker 2: Now now they probably have booths to do that at
Speaker 2: some of these new Agy churches, so you know, scary
Speaker 2: yeah to a service and saye, stay for a butt
Speaker 2: nugget tanning you.
Speaker 3: Know what, do that in your privacy of that booth.
Speaker 3: I vote for that. Thank you till the next one.
Speaker 2: Me neither, and uh, I'm super excited about that. And
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you again for joining
Speaker 2: me for another episode because always fun hanging out with you.
Speaker 2: We are so silly and so weird and I just
Speaker 2: love it and hopefully the crowd enjoys it as much
Speaker 2: as we enjoy hanging out together. So for me and
Speaker 2: for my beautiful besty mess Heidi, thanks for tuning into
Speaker 2: another episode and we will catch you next time. Have
Speaker 2: a good wind, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: Bye. All right, hold on