WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:07.559 It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for 2 00:00:07.679 --> 00:00:13.080 Agnition with the AAW fanhob podcast team. We just saw 3 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.960 Wressel dream over the weekend, and boy do we have 4 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:20.480 a lot to talk about. Adam Cole's babyface turn, all 5 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:24.160 of the champions at AW are now heals, and how 6 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:28.120 are we feeling about the AAW Tag Team division, Plus 7 00:00:28.719 --> 00:00:33.520 how aren't the BCC in the elite storylines going to coexist? 8 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:37.679 And finally we're gonna talk about the AAW Ring of 9 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:43.119 Honor women in the Pro Wrestling Illustrated or yeah, Pro 10 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:47.600 Wrestling Illustrated two fifty and talk about maybe who gets 11 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:49.520 a push? Is it gonna be Anna j or what. 12 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:52.240 So let's get started with ignition. 13 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:56.679 This is Kelson and this is Alex and yeah, let's 14 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:03.159 stir from the top. We had Adams baby face turned seemingly, 15 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.640 we had I'll kind of recount what happened. We had 16 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:11.799 Jack Perry attacked Shabata after the match after his Fluke victory. 17 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.200 Then we had Daniel Garcia come out. Then we had 18 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:18.879 the return of MJF who has beef with Daniel Garcia, 19 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:24.439 and then we had the returning Adam Cole saving Daniel 20 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:31.519 Garcia babyface Adam Cole. He made it very clear because 21 00:01:31.519 --> 00:01:34.680 he gave Daniel Garcia that fist pump and helped him 22 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:39.079 up at the end. And we also saw him out 23 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:42.560 at the very end coming out to help Dan or 24 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:47.560 Brian Danielson after the last match. So Russell dream was 25 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.439 one hundred percent. Adam Cole is a baby face. 26 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:55.400 Right, Yeah? How do you feeling about that? Alex? 27 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:04.079 I get it. MJF is a better heel. I think 28 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:10.080 when you come back from an injury, you know you're 29 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:14.280 gonna be popular with the fans. I think it makes 30 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.319 sense to come back, at least for the first night 31 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.759 or first week as a baby face. I don't. I 32 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:24.800 I think there's a lot remains to be seen. Is 33 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:28.960 it gonna stick? How are they gonna explain the undisputed 34 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:34.439 kingdom stuff? But I I'm not gonna jump to conclusions. 35 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.599 I guess is my thoughts. I think Adam Cole is 36 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:40.479 a better heel than he is a face. Though his 37 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:46.319 face stuff with MJF was really really good. But yeah, 38 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.639 I think I think it's too early to judge. Yes, 39 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.879 he's a face his first night, but we don't know 40 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:56.759 what's gonna happen. Everybody returns as a face to a 41 00:02:58.039 --> 00:02:59.840 m JF returned as a face. 42 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:04.800 Yep, everybody gets so they show their true colors. Go ahead, 43 00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:07.120 sudden or MJF. 44 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:10.919 MJF came out for when he returned from the injury 45 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.520 as a face for about what five minutes, and then 46 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:18.960 he turned back to the guy that everybody loves to hate. 47 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:21.919 You're right, Alex, I think it's way too early to 48 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.800 say he's going to be a face the whole time, 49 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:28.919 because we watched Adam Cole go from being Adam Cole 50 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:34.360 to m Jeff's best friend to the devil, and he 51 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.599 got hurt in that process, and he's come back and 52 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.400 right now it's working out that he's going to be 53 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:46.240 the face to go against them. Jeff uh heal, But 54 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:47.680 that might not mean anything. 55 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:53.520 Yeah, I could see what you're talking about. But I 56 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:56.400 got a feeling that they're gonna be the Switcheroo with 57 00:03:56.479 --> 00:04:00.520 Unnecessary Kingdom and make them face and joy and Adam 58 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:05.199 Cole to take on MJF. There's been teasing it a 59 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.840 little bit with shaking hands and stuff like that and 60 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.719 ring of honor. So I think Adam Pole would be 61 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:15.960 great with Dan Garcia and mentoring him a little bit too. 62 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:18.399 I think it's an interesting take and seeing where it's 63 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:18.759 gonna go. 64 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.560 First of all, I wouldn't be surprised if we see 65 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:28.199 that tag team match on an episode of Dynamite MJF 66 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:34.319 and Jack Perry versus Daniel Garcia and Adam Cole, maybe 67 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:38.759 as a build up to those two singles matches at 68 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.720 full gear. But if they are going to go in 69 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:47.480 the direction of an MJF Adam Cole feud, with Adam 70 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:50.839 Cole being the baby face and MJF being the heel, 71 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.600 it'll be interesting to see how they tie the devil 72 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:00.399 stuff into the story, which I don't think that be 73 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:04.120 a big part of the story because if you look back, 74 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:06.720 the devil stuff kind of flocked. 75 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.879 Honestly, well, it doesn't necessarily need to be a part 76 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:14.639 of it because that was over a year ago and 77 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:17.519 everything has moved on so far that you can just 78 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.319 let that go and not even recall it. You really 79 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:20.959 don't have to. 80 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:23.879 I think you have to. You have to mention it, 81 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.240 You have to explain it a little bit. You don't 82 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.759 have to get into detail, but if you don't, if 83 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.480 you just pretend it never happened. That's not we don't. 84 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:37.079 We know that Adam Cole is going to explain himself 85 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.959 tomorrow night. I believe that's the terminology they used. Do 86 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:45.519 you think that he's going to bring up the devil thing? Maybe, 87 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:49.800 maybe at the very least bring up the friendship that 88 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:52.519 he had for months and months and months and months 89 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:53.600 with MJF. 90 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.600 I think he will bring the stuff up about NJF. 91 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:03.519 I'm not sure he'll I'm not sure that you can 92 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:06.480 kind of leave it there and kind of bring it 93 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.959 up a little bit, I guess, but it's not necessary 94 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.680 for where they're at now, because you know, you can 95 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:15.040 just take that whole devil. You really can just take 96 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:16.759 the whole devil part out and just have a be 97 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.920 that they were best friends that turned on each other 98 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.480 and go from that way if you wanted to. But 99 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:24.959 I do what you're saying, Alex. It's it's gonna be interesting. 100 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:27.519 I feel like. 101 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:34.519 Adam Cale, at least for this feud against MJFF, is 102 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:38.360 going to be a true baby face only because you 103 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.560 think about what Adam Cale has been through recently, not 104 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:47.879 just health wise, but like in his personal life, it's 105 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:51.360 hard not to root for the guy, so at least 106 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:56.639 for this storyline with MJF, I think he will be 107 00:06:57.240 --> 00:06:58.160 the babyface. 108 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.399 Well, you know, the interesting part with Adam Cole, for 109 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:08.560 me particularly is that he has that history with NJF. 110 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:13.000 That is some people think that it's I kind of 111 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:15.519 think it's overdone with God and I think it's time 112 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.160 for a new start. They've had a year to stew 113 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.959 on it, basically. But then you also have the whole 114 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:25.319 thing with the Undisputed Kingdom that may or may not 115 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:29.959 be you know, addressed at all either. So we've got 116 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.480 two things specifically with Adam Cole that a lot of 117 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:38.519 people are looking at and saying they're still open ended 118 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:42.560 and we need to do something with it. So it's 119 00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:49.480 going to be a very interesting promo that Adam Cole does. 120 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:55.800 I hope he comes to the Ring and maybe I 121 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:57.720 don't think we're going to see MGF because where it 122 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.360 is is that he had to go and film some more. 123 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:06.040 I have to go more too, But he may show 124 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:08.759 up on the big screen or something. I don't know. 125 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.720 It's something to look forward to, and hey, that's what 126 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.399 this is all about. I'm actually looking forward to seeing 127 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:22.279 something resolved on Wednesday night. Dynamite instead of just having, 128 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:28.800 you know, banger matches that frankly we get them all 129 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.519 the time. It's time for something new. Not that I'm 130 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.519 complaining about the banger matches, but I want to see 131 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:39.759 something more and looks like we're getting more on Dynamite 132 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:40.240 this week. 133 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.159 Yeah, for sure you need that. Banger matches are great, 134 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:51.039 but you also need some story stuff to even everything 135 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:51.960 out for sure. 136 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:59.320 Now, speaking of story, I want to visit John Moxley 137 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:06.159 because we all saw what John Moxley did to Brian Danielson. Uh, 138 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:10.679 we have Wheeler Yuda did it to Brian Dangelson do 139 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.519 it seems like everybody was against Brian Danielson. But Moxley 140 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:20.799 is also addressing the addressing this tomorrow night again. I 141 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:23.320 hope he comes out. I hope he gets in the 142 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:27.960 ring and faces the music of the Company of Booze 143 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:31.840 that he's definitely going to hear. But where do we 144 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.200 go from here? I mean, obviously he's the world champion. 145 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.039 Now do you think that he's a transitional champion? And 146 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.840 who do you think is going to be his He 147 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:46.799 probably have a match against you know, I don't know, 148 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.159 Action Eddready or something that's a hopeless match. But what's 149 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:56.000 his absolute upcoming feud. A lot of people are saying, 150 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.720 Darby Allen, do you agree with that yet? 151 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:01.840 Nothing? 152 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:04.080 Sorry? Go ahead? 153 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.159 Oh I don't know if you pull the chigger on 154 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:13.519 Orange Cassidy yet, because him and Darby I could see 155 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:19.159 either of them taking the title from Moxley. But given 156 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:23.159 the way this whole BCC story is going and the 157 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:29.480 level of violence and insanity Moxley has gone to recently, 158 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.679 I don't think he's going to be a transitional champion, 159 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.000 and I'll be really interesting to see who he feuds 160 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:43.159 with first. I think it needs to be not Orange 161 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.759 Cassie or Darby Allen. I think you hold off on 162 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:51.360 both of them till later. But at the same time, 163 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:55.840 it does need to be a legitimate contender, whoever it is. 164 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:01.759 It can't just be like, Oh, we're gonna throw Gonte 165 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.519 Martin at him for his first title defense or whatever. 166 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:09.600 Go ahead. 167 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:11.600 I think it's going to all depend on what he 168 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:15.960 has to say and where this storyline goes, because he 169 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.759 very well could be I could see them making him 170 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:23.200 a transitional champion. The whole plan, if you go by 171 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.000 what everybody's been saying, is that you know this was 172 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:28.000 Brand's idea. He wanted everything to happen the way he did. 173 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:32.960 But everybody's thinking that Darby's going to be the next champion, 174 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.080 and this is all setting up to be between Darby 175 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.279 and John. But until we find out what is exactly 176 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.159 going on with Marx, we can guess as much as 177 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.159 we want to. He might not even I mean the 178 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.320 way they acted with the title, he might not even 179 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.440 want to defend the title. He might just want to 180 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:52.080 keep it stored away, like it's being protected from something. 181 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:56.559 I was gonna save this for Mike pot Pourri, but 182 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:00.000 I'll just bring it up now. I love that all 183 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:04.759 all three of a w's top guys right now, Swerve Strickland, 184 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:11.720 Hangman on Page, and John Moxley are all absolutely insane, 185 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:17.840 and they have different reasons for being insane. Like Hangman's 186 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:24.080 insanity is because he's obsessed with Swerve Strickland and you know, 187 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.480 going to through the people who prevented him from getting 188 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:32.919 to Swerve. You've got Swerve who is just insane because 189 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.720 of the level of violence he's willing to go to 190 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.320 and the manipulation he does. 191 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:42.279 And then Moxley is just well Moxley. 192 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:48.720 Yeah, So Alex, I have a question for you. Yes. Well, first, 193 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.960 you know, the original question is who do you think 194 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.159 that that uh, Moxley's first real fewd is gonna go 195 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:59.240 get going to be uh and this is quite But 196 00:12:59.279 --> 00:13:02.360 the second question that this is for everybody else is 197 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:05.120 is there anyone that you do not want to see 198 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:06.120 Moxley feud with? 199 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.440 So, yeah, I one hundred percent agree with whoever said 200 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.399 Orange Cassidy. You know they had that Jerry Lynn. Yeah, mkay, 201 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:18.799 they had that Jerry Lynn backstage segment where out of 202 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.879 the blue, he's just kind of hyping up Orange Cassidy 203 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.039 And for me, that's you know that there's a reason 204 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:29.879 for that. And then Orange Cassidy was there right next 205 00:13:29.879 --> 00:13:33.759 to Derby at the end of the night. It feels 206 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.679 like Darby's probably going to be the guy that unseats 207 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.840 John Moxley. But I think Orange Cassidy has a lot 208 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:45.399 of history with John Moxley feuding over the international title. 209 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:51.159 And yeah, it seems like a good person for Moxley 210 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.679 to make look really good in a championship match that 211 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.440 he doesn't win. And I don't know if you guys 212 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.159 remember when they had that trip both threat Championship match 213 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:05.960 main event with Park and Orange Cassidy and Kenny Omega. 214 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.720 That was one of the first AW pay per views 215 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:11.960 I think I watched and that that was such a 216 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:20.840 fun match to watch Orange Cassidy almost win. I don't 217 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.519 know if it'll feel the same this time, but to 218 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:29.200 see a close pinfall with Orange Cassidy almost becoming AW 219 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:34.360 champion would really be something very exciting for me. 220 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.080 Yeah, you know, I think also I want to add 221 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:43.440 that if they do fight each other, that I want 222 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:47.399 to see the crowds of action when they ultimately beat 223 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.759 the craft out of Orange Cassidy because he's a fan 224 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:52.559 favorite and kids love him, so I think there's gonna 225 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.840 be some tears shed for Orange Cassidy on the kid's side. 226 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:57.200 They're gonna beat. 227 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.960 Everybody up, I think, and unfortunately it's gonna people haven't suggested. 228 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.159 It's gonna be kind of like a steam thing for 229 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:07.879 for Darby Allen to come out of the shadows and 230 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:11.360 finally be the one beat John Moxley. It needs to 231 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:14.159 be Derby. People all the time tell me no, he's 232 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:18.000 not ready, but he's more ready than anybody else I 233 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:19.559 can think of on the roster right now. 234 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:23.519 I think we have to keep in mind the fact 235 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:28.399 that Christian Cage still has that like clipboard money in 236 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:32.240 the bank type thing where he can cash in and 237 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.000 get a title shot anytime he wants. 238 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:39.360 So you can't just dismiss that whole thing. 239 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.960 Do you honestly see Christian Cage going up against John 240 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.000 Moxley and thinks he's going to win the title? I 241 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.360 mean seriously, I like Christian and Christian does good work. 242 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.519 Moxley would murder him, period. There wouldn't even be a fight. 243 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:56.519 That would be. That would be the dumbest thing that 244 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.159 he could do. The only way he could do that 245 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.120 that I could see Christian doing that and act me 246 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:03.960 having a chance is if Moxley is beat up so 247 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:08.159 badly in the match that he's he's bleeding everywhere and 248 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.360 been beat up by everything you can think of. It's 249 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:14.720 just I just don't see that happening. That would be 250 00:16:14.759 --> 00:16:15.840 suicide for Christian. 251 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:22.279 I can just imagine them doing that. Moxley's like half dead, 252 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.919 Christian comes out, Moxley gets up, Christian just runs away. 253 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:31.200 Yeah, like the other day. 254 00:16:32.240 --> 00:16:32.639 Mm hmm. 255 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:41.840 Well, I'm all in for the Moxley versus Orange Cassidy match. 256 00:16:42.200 --> 00:16:45.159 Or mini feud, because I do think the doll roads 257 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.440 lead to Darby Allen and John Moxley. But I will 258 00:16:49.519 --> 00:16:55.559 accept a Orange Cassidy versus John Moxley mini feud if 259 00:16:56.039 --> 00:17:00.919 and only if John Moxley beats the livid shit out 260 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.680 of the Orange. Because when Jerry Lynn at backstage at 261 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:10.960 Wrestle Dream did that hype thing whatever it was for 262 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:23.440 Orge Cassidy, my whole reaction was God damn it. Seriously, 263 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:26.880 I mean, don't think about this, Okay, think about this. 264 00:17:28.119 --> 00:17:31.000 In the last six months, Orange Cassidy has had a 265 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:37.839 revolving door of matches with the Conglomeration in different setups 266 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:43.359 I guess against the Undisputed Kingdom in different setups, meaning 267 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:46.440 that the un Disputed Kingdom may have had a special 268 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:51.599 guest wrestler and Conglomeration at a special guest wrestler. Ornge 269 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:56.480 Castide has done nothing but really tag team matches and 270 00:17:56.599 --> 00:18:00.880 trios matches and Casito Dotlin match. When was the last 271 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:05.240 time that he had a. 272 00:18:03.680 --> 00:18:06.799 Singles match against Jericho? 273 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.359 Yeah? 274 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:13.599 There again, But what I have to saying is was 275 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:18.079 that a meaningful match? You know? No, he hasn't had 276 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:21.519 any meaningful matches, even the tag team and the Trio's matches, 277 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:25.440 they weren't for titles, they were completely meaningless. He yeah, 278 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:27.799 he was in the Casino Gauntlet to get a shot 279 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:31.680 at the title, but that was just like so telegraphed. 280 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.960 They all knew he was gonna get get that you, 281 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:39.839 I mean, that was gonna happen two weeks before it 282 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.880 actually happened. My point is is that Orange Cassidy has 283 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:48.119 not earned anything, and if they need to do something 284 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.640 with him and Moxley other than him get in the 285 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:54.319 living crap beat out of him, they need to do 286 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.839 something with Orange Cassie to make him earn the shot. 287 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:05.559 If you, Moxley and Orange Cassie had had a great 288 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:11.519 match for the International title all Out. I personally enjoyed 289 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:15.519 their second match at Full Gear. I know some people 290 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.160 didn't enjoy as much as their first. 291 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:20.480 What twenty twenty two? 292 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:22.839 No last year? 293 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:24.200 Last year? 294 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:27.519 I thought, yeah, that was the main event for All 295 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:28.440 Out last year. 296 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:35.519 Okay, so twenty twenty three, So it's. 297 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:36.640 All going to come down to. It was if you, 298 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:38.680 if you saw it and you paid attention to everybody that 299 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.519 was in the rink to help out Brian. It was 300 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:48.240 the entire conglomeration was there. It was Adam Cole and 301 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:49.279 it was Darby Allen. 302 00:19:50.119 --> 00:19:54.359 They were all in the ring and hook right and hook, 303 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:59.720 and I mean it's the kind of drew the who 304 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:01.119 Private Party. 305 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:01.799 Weren't they out there? 306 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:07.039 So you're kind of getting the whole lines that are 307 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:09.720 being drawn in the in the in the thing and 308 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:12.319 how they're gonna separate this down. And another part of 309 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:14.440 your question when you put up here was how are 310 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:19.000 how is the BCC and the and the UH elite 311 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.079 gonna coincide? I don't think it's going to. I think 312 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:24.680 this is going to take center stage. It's gonna become 313 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:27.279 the main thing that they pushed for the next however 314 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:30.960 long they wanted to run. I think the elite storyline 315 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.279 is kind of gonna get pushed back and just kind 316 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:35.519 of they'll still be the elite and they'll still do 317 00:20:35.599 --> 00:20:37.759 their thing, But I don't think it's gonna be anything 318 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:43.960 of importance unless and less everybody's talking about McMahon coming in. 319 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.119 That would be probably the only place that you could 320 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:50.400 put Shane in now, because this whole thing with the BCC, 321 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:52.839 there's no way this has anything to do with Shane, 322 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:54.640 because that's just not his character style. 323 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:02.400 Listen, yeah, but listen, you know guys, Yeah, I understand 324 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:05.359 what you're saying. Someting. But then again, Tony Khan turned 325 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.079 right around, and who did he book for a match 326 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.200 on Dynamite this week? The Elite against Orange Cassidy and 327 00:21:11.279 --> 00:21:15.720 Kyle O'Reilly and whoever I can't remember the third person. 328 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.119 Oh yeah, So so. 329 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:23.240 Orange Cassidy isn't going against the Black Bool Combat Club. 330 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:27.000 He's going against the Elite, which makes no sense. 331 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:29.920 Yeah, but and you had a lot of guys that 332 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:34.200 we named as being the baby Faces in there kind 333 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:38.880 of challenging the the BCC. Uh. If all those guys 334 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:40.960 got together and came out at the same time, they 335 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:43.240 would beat the crap out of the BCC, because it 336 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:46.640 was only like four or five of them. I don't know. 337 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:50.519 I can really see the Elite and the BCC kind 338 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:54.480 of maybe not joining forces, but kind of both being 339 00:21:54.640 --> 00:22:00.559 part of this group that's fighting against the baby Faces. 340 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.920 Well that's the whole thing. Like I said before, it's 341 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.599 gonna determine the way this is gonna go. Is gonna 342 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.799 be when they finally reveal what the hell's going on, 343 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.400 because what they've said so far makes no sense for 344 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.279 where they're headed, and. 345 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:21.599 I think Moxley wants it that way. To Sutton, I. 346 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:27.559 Think he's intentionally speaking in riddles, but to your point, Alex, 347 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:30.960 and also kind of to what you're saying about the elite, Sutton. 348 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:35.240 I think the key pier in all of this is 349 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:40.599 Jack Perry. And I'll tell you why, because did Moxley 350 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:45.480 recently have a conversation with Jack Perry if I'm not mistaken, 351 00:22:47.160 --> 00:22:49.440 Like we saw a backstage I believe right. 352 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.720 Yeah, one of the first days he came back, he 353 00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:55.319 came up to him, he was with the young bucks 354 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.000 and he said, you've always been a nice kid or 355 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:02.799 something like that, and patted him on the back and 356 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:03.599 walked away. 357 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:09.640 So Wave like, I don't I don't know how this 358 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.359 would work, so you'd have to forgive me. 359 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:14.839 I don't have all the details on it worked out. 360 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:19.680 But Wave like, somehow Jack Perry is behind everything with 361 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:20.640 the BCC. 362 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:28.000 I don't see that. 363 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.400 Happen, but I think he's I think Marx is going 364 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.200 after the Day one people and he wants these younger 365 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:36.000 people to step up because he doesn't have that much longer, 366 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:41.920 you know, and they really haven't. They really haven't. MJF 367 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.279 is really one only stepped up guys for the Day 368 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:50.400 one people, So I think that's what they need. I 369 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:53.599 think it's where it's going. Like I said, Orange Cassidy. 370 00:23:53.240 --> 00:23:55.680 Has has has stories, but. 371 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:59.440 Just about every member of the BCC, you know, you 372 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.599 to he turn, you would have turned on them. He 373 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:06.240 also he's a pick on you. He took the belt 374 00:24:06.279 --> 00:24:11.240 from Park and he's had quite a few matches with Moxley, 375 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:17.240 so he has that history. What about Claudio though, he's 376 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.559 had matches with Plaudio, I thought, but maybe. 377 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:23.440 Not a history. 378 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:33.440 Maybe he has history with them. I'm yeah, but I 379 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.000 don't think the underdog is gonna win this time. It's 380 00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.640 what's great about this because the good guy doesn't always win. 381 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:45.680 So I didn't get to see Russell Dream because it 382 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:50.440 was young Kapoor and I have family and stuff over uh. 383 00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:52.920 But I was able. 384 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:55.559 To see like stuff on Twitter and whatnot, and I 385 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:59.720 saw like the end clip with it was Hook, it 386 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.640 was Orange Cassie, it was Darby all kind of just 387 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:07.000 watching off to the side. I don't think it's a 388 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:13.240 coincidence that that was the final shot before Russell Dream 389 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:17.519 went off the air, Like it feels like, that's the 390 00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:22.480 next crop of young guys that Aw's kind of getna 391 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:24.000 rely on. 392 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:28.559 You know, what I think would have been better at 393 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:31.559 the end there was if they had shown had the 394 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:33.759 elite not come to the ring, but at least come 395 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:38.839 out onto the ramp, you know, to set up a 396 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:43.880 babyface versus heel battle. Because to me, I'm gonna be 397 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.160 honest with you, when I saw Orange Cassidy out there, 398 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:50.680 I was a little bit disappointed in that I thought 399 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:53.279 that Orange Casside we better suited to go after Okada. 400 00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:58.480 It's Kyle O'Reilly that's going after Okada. 401 00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:02.200