WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:02.720 Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dickabrielle with you 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:05.080 on a Wednesday edition of our program. It is the 3 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:08.839 final day of April, first Saturday in May. Coming up 4 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:12.480 the Kentucky Derby. That's right, I'm not gonna make it 5 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:14.080 there this year. We're going to talk about that a 6 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:17.239 little bit more. In segment number two. We'll here from 7 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.920 Bob Baffert, who has got a couple of horses, one 8 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.920 in particular that I think could win the race, but 9 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:24.920 if the other horse he's got has drawn the rail, 10 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.120 so we'll talk about that as well. A little bit 11 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:29.239 later on with West End Bureau Chief Gary Moore, we 12 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:33.600 will double down on our Kentucky Derby pick for this year. 13 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:35.560 Coming up at the bottom of the hour, Aaron Gershan 14 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.240 of The Cat's Boss. We'll talk about Kentucky football and basketball, 15 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:41.920 and right now the news is all about the portal 16 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:45.600 with these programs, and Mark Pope's out there trying to 17 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:48.280 do some work, so we'll we'll find out about the 18 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:51.719 latest from Aaron. Also his thoughts on the NFL Draft, 19 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.079 because his New York Football Giants did a good thing 20 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.240 and drafting Abdul Carter, the d lineman from Penn State, 21 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:01.880 but also Jackson Dark, a quarterback from Ole Miss, And 22 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:04.879 I texted Aaron during the draft and said what do 23 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.000 you think? And he didn't like the pick, So we'll 24 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:10.280 find out where he stands about that. Right now, Dark 25 00:01:10.599 --> 00:01:13.359 a good quarterback at the college level in a great 26 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:17.200 system for qbs at Ole Miss. But will that translate 27 00:01:17.480 --> 00:01:21.200 to the National Football League as Pat McAfee calls it, 28 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.480 the men's league, So we'll hear from Aaron on that. 29 00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:27.640 We'll also talk with Sean Woods, the unforgettable guard. We 30 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:30.239 talked with him every Wednesday. He's now the new head 31 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:33.120 coach at Scott County and I'm going to talk to 32 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:37.439 Sean about the NFL draft. In Shador Sanders as it 33 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:42.879 relates to coaching in general, You've got the ultimate what 34 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:45.359 in baseball you call him a dugout dad? What do 35 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.120 you call him in football? Sidelines? Dad? And Dion Sanders, 36 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:52.120 who has steered his son every step of the way. 37 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:54.840 And look, this kid's a really good player. There's no 38 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.920 question about it. He's a really good player. He's been 39 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:02.519 really good wherever he's gone. But his baggage is his 40 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:05.959 father and that cost him and it cost him in 41 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:09.560 more ways than one. It cost him with the attitude 42 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:13.719 that he is instilled Dion has in his son, who 43 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:18.520 by all accounts blew the job interview. But it also 44 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:21.479 cost him because Dion has made it clear that he 45 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.719 will be part of the process, not just telling teams 46 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:29.000 where his kid will play and not play in terms 47 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.240 of don't draft me, I'm not going to play for you. 48 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:36.120 And Eli Manning did that. John Elway did that, but 49 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:40.479 neither one of them and I know Elways or Eli's dad, 50 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.960 Arch was one of the greatest names in the history 51 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:46.960 of football, but he didn't make it clear that he 52 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:51.599 would be, you know, part of the overall process. He 53 00:02:51.719 --> 00:02:54.639 just advised his son don't go to San Diego and 54 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:59.919 they didn't and it worked out. But Sanders now is 55 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:04.240 it's in a really, really tough situation and Sean's going 56 00:03:04.319 --> 00:03:05.960 to talk about that with me. We'll talk to him 57 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:08.719 about parents. He's had to deal with it as a 58 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:11.680 college head coach and now as a high school head coach. 59 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.719 He will deal with it as well. Every coach does. 60 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:19.479 Heck I filled in coaching a flag football team one 61 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.599 Sunday for a friend of mine and had a parent 62 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:26.000 walk around from one sideline to the other and say, 63 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.319 you know, my kid hadn't touched the ball yet. Well, 64 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.639 truth be told, his kid was a nice kid, was 65 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.120 the worst player on the team. And I had this 66 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:37.240 thing where everybody got a play to carry the ball 67 00:03:37.319 --> 00:03:40.400 at least one and we had a specific play design 68 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:45.000 for his kid, and it was coming up. But because 69 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:48.680 this guy walked around, I said, okay, fine, and I 70 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.280 moved his kid up in a rotation, handed him the 71 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:54.599 ball and he screwed it all up. He embarrassed himself. 72 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:56.560 I felt bad for the kid, but I was also 73 00:03:56.639 --> 00:04:00.159 angry at myself for not telling the dad, and I 74 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:01.599 wanted to tell him. But on the other hand, it's 75 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:06.479 flag football. It's a lot more complicated now for Shador 76 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.400 Sanders and Dion Sanders, and in fact, there's so much 77 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:16.040 money at stake. And Chris Carter, the former all everything 78 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:19.480 wide receiver, is quite vocal when he's interviewed. He was 79 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:25.360 on the podcast called Fully Loaded this week, and he 80 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.800 broke things down in terms of how much money Sanders 81 00:04:28.839 --> 00:04:30.240 cost himself, Like. 82 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.800 You're going for a job interview, So for this job interview, 83 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.680 he was so concerned about, oh, what his outfit was, 84 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:42.560 His necklace was over one hundred grand. Like he hadn't 85 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:45.600 even convinced people that you're the face of our franchise. 86 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.959 Matter of fact, he had convinced people that they were 87 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.680 better off going in a different direction, even with people 88 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:54.639 who had lesser talent. That's the rub he put on 89 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:55.079 the people. 90 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:56.759 That's the case. 91 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:57.639 That's a bad interview, bro. 92 00:04:57.879 --> 00:04:58.800 No, it is the case. 93 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:03.279 He didn't get drafted, right, it's no speculation, like we're 94 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:06.560 through the draft. We through three days. He threw away 95 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:14.279 at least thirty to fifty million dollars at least yep. 96 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.199 Sure did uh, he's a good player, but would not 97 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:23.040 work out for teams in the combine and again did 98 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:26.399 not come across well at all talking to the teams. 99 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:28.240 And you can say that's fair, that's not fair to 100 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:32.319 look ultimately, as Carter said, as everybody has said, it 101 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:36.720 is a job interview, and any of you, as have I, 102 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.399 who've been in a job interview, you've got to let 103 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:44.959 them know what they're going to get when they hire you, 104 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:49.079 when they draft you, when they signed you, whatever. And 105 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:53.000 if you come across as somebody who is going to 106 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:57.279 come in and tell the company how to do things, 107 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.959 not here's what I can bring to you, but here's 108 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.360 how you're going to change in order to fit my skills. 109 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:07.560 That is a recipe for disaster. That's somebody who's going 110 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:11.560 to politely show you the door. So we'll talk more 111 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:13.920 with Sean about that. But I haven't really gotten into 112 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:16.079 it that much. I wanted to collect as much info 113 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:20.639 as I could, but I've read several accounts that said 114 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:24.399 this guy just did not come across well and it 115 00:06:24.519 --> 00:06:28.480 turned off so many teams. And by the way, there 116 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:30.639 were only four or five teams in the first round 117 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:36.040 looking for a starting quarterback. After that, you're drafting a backup. 118 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:39.120 And do you want to burn your first round, second round, 119 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:43.279 third round pick and that kind of money on a backup? No. Now, 120 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.480 I didn't think he dropped at a fifth round, but 121 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:49.680 he at least has a shot now with the Cleveland Brown. 122 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.839 Speaking of John Elway, what a mess for him. His 123 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:58.319 business partner and former agent was writing in a golf cart. 124 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:04.079 Elway was driving and something happened and this guy, Jeff Spurbeck, 125 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:08.959 fell off and hit his head on asphalt. This happened 126 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:15.439 in California. Late Saturday. TMZ reported that Elway was at 127 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:20.279 the wheel. No indication he was driving negligently, but the 128 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:24.360 injuries were described as life threatening. So they were sitting 129 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:26.319 and they were in the cart after attending a party 130 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:31.600 with Spurbeck and their spouses. They had an emergency crew 131 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:35.399 respond took him to a trauma center. That's all we know. 132 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:40.360 But what a moment for the former two time Super 133 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:45.079 Bowl winning quarterback John Elway. He's gotta feel terrible about that. Obviously. 134 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.199 Speaking of feeling terrible, the baseball Wildcats must feel pretty 135 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:53.480 bad this morning. Blew one. Last night they were leading 136 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:56.560 Western Kentucky three nothing going into the bottom of the fifth. 137 00:07:56.560 --> 00:08:01.279 Remind you this is a good Western Kentucky team. Western's 138 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.079 now won thirty five games. I can't imagine won't make 139 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.759 the nca tournament field. But they picked up a big 140 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.759 win last night over an SEC team, didn't they While 141 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.839 Kats committed three errors in the bottom of the fifth 142 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:18.519 and blew the game by a final of six to four. 143 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.680 Cats go on to Mississippi State this weekend, starting Friday. 144 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.600 You'll hear the games right here on six thirty WLAP 145 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:28.879 there on SEC plus as well. We'll talk Derby next. 146 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:32.919 You're on the Big Blue in Sider. Welcome back to 147 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:34.960 the Big Blue Insider. Coming up at the bottom of 148 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.759 the hour, Aaron Gershawan and the Cat's pause. It is 149 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:40.240 the last day of April. First Saturday in May is 150 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:43.120 coming up. You know that means the Kentucky Derby. I'm 151 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.320 not gonna get there this year. It's bothering me. I 152 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:47.399 haven't been to the Derby in a couple of years. 153 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:51.559 I've been to somewhere between forty five and fifty derbys. 154 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:55.080 I lost count. I went to something like thirty seven straight, 155 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.480 thirty eight out of thirty nine dating back to nineteen 156 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:02.279 seventy two. I was in the infield in seventy two 157 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:07.039 for rever Ridge and Secretariat seventy three. I was standing 158 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.799 on top of an empty beer keg. Yeah, they snuck 159 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.559 a keg in to the infield and at one point 160 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.159 I saw this flash of blue and white silks. That's 161 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.480 the only part of the race I saw in person. 162 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:19.960 The infield is the worst place to be if you 163 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:21.840 want to watch the race. At least it was back 164 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:25.320 then before they had the huge TV screens, and you 165 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:29.159 can't hear anything if you've got a transistor radio. Back then, 166 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:32.639 you couldn't even hear that because the noise was so loud, 167 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.799 it took us forever to find out that Secretariat had won. 168 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:40.240 I missed in seventy four because and that was my 169 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:43.080 first year in the UK, because I had to take 170 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:47.480 God help me, a geology exam Saturday morning Derby Day, 171 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:51.360 and I pleaded with the teacher to let me take 172 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.559 it some other time. Nope, so I missed the hundredth running. 173 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.639 The Queen was here, I'm sure she missed the fact 174 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.480 that I was going. But anyhow, from that point on 175 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:04.840 I went for the longest time up to I think 176 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:09.840 it was twenty eleven when my son graduated EKU and 177 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:14.679 they had graduation ceremonies. I'm talking to you Eastern Kentucky 178 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:19.320 University on Derby Day and I grabbed one of the 179 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:23.320 pr people. I said, what are you thinking, Well, tomorrow 180 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:27.440 is Mother's Day. I'm like, perfect have graduation day when 181 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.679 every mother who might be there would be proud to 182 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:33.840 see their kid walk and get a diploma. But nope, 183 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.600 they added on Derby Day. So anyhow, because of wre 184 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.080 Kentucky Baseball things like that, I haven't really been able 185 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.600 to get to the Derby as much lately as I 186 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.960 would have liked, but I will watch it. And of 187 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:48.440 course I do own a share of a horse that 188 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.960 won the Kentucky Derby back in twenty twenty, Authentic. I 189 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.360 have what's called a micro share. It's through the program 190 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:59.279 that my racehorse dot Com has going was spend through 191 00:10:59.279 --> 00:11:02.080 a farm you can get online right now. I bought 192 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:05.960 a couple more shares of a horse called black Tie Optional, 193 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:10.519 trained by Bob Bafford. There are several horses available, and you, 194 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:13.840 for not a whole lot of money, can buy in. 195 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:16.559 You can be a thoroughbred owner. It's a lot of fun, really, 196 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.600 And I bought a share of Authentic. The night before 197 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:23.559 the derby, I had helped Channel twenty seven with the story, 198 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:26.840 had interviewed a guy from my race Horse for the 199 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.440 radio show, and I got home and I thought, you know, 200 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:32.559 that's a great idea, So I jumped online bought a share. 201 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.559 They were whipping and driving coming home. I'm yelling like 202 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.879 a banshee, and my wife's like, what are you so 203 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.440 excited about? And I pointed at the TV at the 204 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:43.440 horse that was on the lead, and I said, we 205 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.399 own that horse. So yeah, I've got a photo of 206 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:49.039 me with the roses and the saddle towel and all 207 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:52.879 that stuff. But Baffort's got a couple of horses going 208 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:56.799 as you know this year. He's got Citizen Bull who's 209 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:59.840 on the rail, which bothers me. He's twenty to one. Anyway, 210 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:04.120 Rodriguez is in the four hole and he's twelve to 211 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.159 one and I kind of like him. He's got Mike 212 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.240 Smith aboard, and Mike Smith is vying to become, at 213 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:12.840 age fifty nine, the oldest Derby winner as a jockey. 214 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.799 Right now, it's Pat Day who is on Ferdinand back 215 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.559 in nineteen eighty six and speaking in the rail. That's 216 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:22.879 the last horse to come from the one hole and 217 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:26.240 win the Kentucky Derby. It's hard and I'll talk with 218 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.000 Gary Moore about that a little bit later on in 219 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.120 the show to win out of the one hole with 220 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.200 a field that big. But I may throw a few 221 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:37.960 Nichols at Rodriguez, who is a good horse with a 222 00:12:38.000 --> 00:12:41.279 good rider and a good trainer. So Bob Batford of 223 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.799 course on the backside all week doing all kinds of 224 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:49.519 interviews after missing the Kentucky Derby, after the mess involving 225 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:55.039 Medina Spirit who won the Kentucky Derby, but was taken 226 00:12:55.080 --> 00:13:01.440 down for testing positive for illegal substance not allowed on 227 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.559 race day. It's actually legal up until race day, and 228 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.200 there was a minute amount in the system. And then 229 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.000 Bafford went head to head with Churchill Downs or the 230 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:14.720 powers that be in racing or both, and it went 231 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:19.000 on longer, probably than it needed to. But now he's back. 232 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:21.039 He's good for the game, whatever you think of him. 233 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:26.559 And he talked to wdrb Over in Louisville about how 234 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.000 he believed when he got back. You know, he didn't 235 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.720 have any trepidations about being welcome on the backside. 236 00:13:32.919 --> 00:13:38.600 My greatest memories are hearing Churchill Downs coming the first time, 237 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:43.600 bringing horses, winning the Kentucky Derby, having my parents here 238 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.919 winning the Kentucky in them being here. So to me, 239 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:50.799 like I said, when you have great memories like that, 240 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:54.480 I've never I was never sour on the issue, and 241 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.879 I wasn't really blaming the Churchill Downs. It's what went 242 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:01.960 on with other things that happening and why it happened, 243 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:05.279 and so it was one of those things where I 244 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:09.440 understood their position, my position. We just were fighting for 245 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.679 the horse. He ran so hard to win the derby, 246 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:18.440 and to be disqualified for something that was so minute, 247 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:21.480 but it still couldn't be in the system. It was 248 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:25.639 a legal medication. But it's one of those things where 249 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.679 you know you miss being here, but I you know, 250 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:33.200 I still watch it on television. We had Derby parties. 251 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:36.200 I still enjoyed it, you know. So, I mean the 252 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.919 Derby is so important to our industry. I mean without 253 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.840 the Kentucky Derby, I probably couldn't get anybody to buy 254 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.399 a horse, you know, because everybody it's a dream. It's 255 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:46.679 like the Masters. 256 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.279 Yeah, and that's a great analogy. It really is like 257 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:53.000 the Masters, because every pro golfer wants to win a tournament, 258 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:55.240 any want to win a major. But if he held 259 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:57.879 him down, they would tell you the one I want 260 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.919 to win is the Masters, which is probably the hardest 261 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.120 one to win. And the Kentucky Derby is the hardest 262 00:15:04.279 --> 00:15:08.240 race to win because they're three year olds, they've never 263 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:11.679 gone a mile and a quarter and you've got a 264 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.759 field of twenty, you've got one hundred and fifty thousand 265 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:17.559 people and how many times have you heard a jockey 266 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.759 talk about when they come out of the far turn 267 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:25.120 and they head for home, it's like slamming into a wall, 268 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:28.679 the noise they face as they cut that last corner 269 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.279 as ca what Ldford used to say, they cut that 270 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.360 last corner and they come to me now they hit 271 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:37.519 that wall to sound and a lot of horses can't 272 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.399 handle it. So it just takes a special trip. It 273 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.759 takes you know, everything falling into place, obviously, but as 274 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:49.519 Bafford points out, the early stages again coming out of 275 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:51.440 the gate, if you have to come off the rail 276 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:54.919 or anywhere near it, that can be a big problem. 277 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.279 So those first few jumps are vital. 278 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.559 And you don't know if these jockeys are nervous the 279 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:01.799 other You know, a lot of the first time they've 280 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:04.879 ridden it, and their horses are geared out. With twenty horses, 281 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.320 they leave there in a scrum. You know, the first 282 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.279 two hundred yards. It's it's one or loss in the 283 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.639 first two hundred yards. And once they get into the backside, 284 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.480 and if your horse is in a nice rhythm, but 285 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.000 if he has once he checks once forget it there. 286 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:23.840 It's like they're lactic acid builds up. They get scared 287 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.600 and they quit running. And it's the only race that 288 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:30.039 you good horses get beat. Thirty forty lanes. You'll see 289 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.399 the chart. You got beat forty lanes. It's never going 290 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:33.639 to happen again in his life. 291 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:36.360 He's right about the jockeys, and as a rule, I 292 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:38.440 don't bet on a horse just because of a jockey. 293 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.679 But it can help. And as I said, Mike Smith 294 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:44.279 knows what he's doing, and it helps if you got 295 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:48.240 a rider who has been in this mess before. And 296 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.039 I'll never forget being on the track one year, that's 297 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:52.840 where I usually would watch the race from the track, 298 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.159 near the finish line, and there was such a scrum, 299 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:00.799 so much banging going into the first turn that I 300 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.079 saw a rider unseated. A rider flew up in the 301 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:07.359 air and I thought, you know, you get that split 302 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.319 second thought. I thought, he's going to come down. He's 303 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.440 going to get crushed, he's going to get run over. 304 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:17.759 But because the horses near him were banging his horse, 305 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.240 he had nowhere to fall but back onto his horse. 306 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.079 It was frightening. I do not remember the horse or 307 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:27.079 what happened later. I'm pretty sure the horse didn't win. 308 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.599 It was not the winner. I would remember that, But 309 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:33.079 that's the kind of thing that can happen. It's the 310 00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:36.720 one time of year when people who ordinarily don't follow 311 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:40.599 horse racing are racing fans or at least just realize 312 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.680 it's happening. And one of them is comedian Jim gaff 313 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:47.440 Again he's got a bit on the Kentucky Derby, and 314 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.119 whoever does his social media accounts has been making the 315 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:54.319 rounds with it. It's been on Facebook, Twitter, on Instagram 316 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:56.640 and here's a little bit of it. It's pretty funny. 317 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:59.079 I have to admit we are a country that loves 318 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:01.680 to bet on horses. Every spring we tracked the three 319 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.799 races of the Triple Crown, and every spring I always 320 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:04.559 have the same thought. 321 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:10.799 We're still doing this is Woodrow Wilson President, But people 322 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.799 love the Triple Crown, the Kentucky Derby, where people bet 323 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:16.599 on horses while they're dressed like characters from Gone with 324 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:17.119 the Wind. 325 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:22.759 It's like prom for gamblers. Do you like my hat? 326 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:27.640 I'm living in my sister's garage because I have a 327 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:31.519 debilitating gambling addiction. Shall we have another? 328 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:31.720 Men? 329 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:36.920 Julb that was announced the winner of each race on 330 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:39.000 the news. You're can always tell the horse was named 331 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.319 by a guy on his eighth wife. The horse is 332 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:48.319 always named like Viagua's revenge alimony be Dad. They show 333 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.400 a picture of the winning horse on the news, they 334 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.480 could show us a picture of any horse. We wouldn't 335 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.319 know the difference. I don't know what we're supposed to 336 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.880 do with that horse image. It's not like we're gonna 337 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:01.440 run into that horse in a bar. Excuse me, did 338 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:02.640 you win the Kentucky Derby? 339 00:19:03.960 --> 00:19:04.319 I did. 340 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.880 I won the Kentucky Derby. Now I'm at a bar 341 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:13.039 enjoying a half invison. There is the classic photo of 342 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:15.559 the winning horse right there. They're always wearing that huge 343 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.960 horseshoe wreath of flowers they stole from someone's grave site, 344 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:23.039 standing next to the winning horses. The owner of the horse, 345 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:25.599 who did not train the horse, did not ride the horse, 346 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:28.480 and based on body language, has never really met the horse. 347 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:33.920 I don't know about that. If you are a derby owner, 348 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:37.039 I'll guarantee you you're so excited you've been to the 349 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.359 barn at least once or twice that week, and if not, 350 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:44.759 you shouldn't be a Derby owner. That's Jim Gaffigan courtesy 351 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.480 of Jim Gaffigan Productions. In Bob Baffert came to us 352 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:50.960 from WDRB Aaron Gershon's next year on six point thirty 353 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.200 Welcome Back, We are chatting with Aaron Gershan of the 354 00:19:53.240 --> 00:19:55.920 Cat's Balls. Aaron, of course covers football and basketball for 355 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.599 the Wildcats, also a diehard New York Football Giants fan. 356 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:03.559 And this is a situation, Aaron, where you're beat covering 357 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.319 Kentucky football kind of intersects with your beloved Giants and 358 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.119 one of the players that they drafted. You covered Kentucky 359 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:15.880 Ole miss You watch the Cats beat Jackson Dart in Mississippi. 360 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.720 At first, you were a little leary about the Giants 361 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:21.319 drafting Jackson Dart and a lot of people thought he 362 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:24.440 was a bit of a dark horse quarterback draft candidate. 363 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.119 Now you feel better about that? 364 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.480 Why feel a little better? I think it's the fact 365 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.200 he has to sit. He's almost guaranteed to sit this 366 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:36.880 year when they have Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston on 367 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:40.240 the roster. My big thing, my big thing, really, and 368 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:42.359 it's something we've talked about in the past of Tennessee 369 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.559 and translating to the NFL. If you remember the Will 370 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:47.640 Levis Hendon Hooker debate a couple of years ago, it's 371 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:51.160 that offense at Ole Miss. It's great for college. It 372 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.400 tears up to college defenses, but it's very, very simplified 373 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:59.079 and does not at all reflect what an NFL offense is. 374 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:02.240 I mean, it's very much first three there, okay, that's 375 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:05.559 not there, check down that's it, or run. There's not 376 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:08.559 many going through progressions. It's a very you know, quick 377 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:10.359 to the line of scrimmage. You're not in the huddle, 378 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:13.720 you're not calling out. You know, you're not calling much 379 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.119 out at the line of scrimmage. It's just very very 380 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:20.319 much running gun, let's go, you know, hurry up, purry up, 381 00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:23.440 purry up. Whereas my worry is, okay, how's that going 382 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:24.559 to translate. 383 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:24.920 To the NFL. 384 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.799 But the fact he has look Brian Dable, I guess 385 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:30.279 they had a bad year last year. He's a quarterback. 386 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:32.720 Uru he got the most out of Daniel Jones in 387 00:21:32.799 --> 00:21:36.440 twenty twenty two. He turned Josh Allen around as soon 388 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:40.319 as he got there. I mean, Jalen hurts to at college. 389 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:43.960 I mean, go on and on. I feel good about that, 390 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:45.799 and I feel good that he has to sit behind 391 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.559 Russell Wilson and Jameis Winston, who I don't they're not 392 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:51.640 great quarterbacks at this point in their careers, but they've 393 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.720 been through a lot and they're both really good leaders, 394 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:55.319 and I think they'll both help them out a lot. 395 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:57.880 So I think he got drafted into a good situation. 396 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:00.640 And then, so I was telling you before we started here, 397 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.079 I'm just glad they didn't take him at three because 398 00:22:03.079 --> 00:22:05.119 he can't pass on Abdul Carter, who I think is 399 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:07.920 probably to the best player of the draft. 400 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.680 I agree. I couldn't agree more and I was happy 401 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.200