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let's dive in to today's episode. I like to welcome

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to the show Peter Smith. Hey do, Peter.

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Speaker 2: I'm really good. Alex. It's good to say it.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you too, my friend. Thank you so

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much for coming on the show. I'm I'm looking forward

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to our conversation. We're here to talk about your book

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Quantum Consciousness. We're going to get into the weeds of

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this thing called consciousness that's been That word is thrown

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around a lot, and quantum consciousness is even thrown around

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more nowadays. But also a little bit. I want to

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get started with the work that you were doing with

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a little known guy named doctor Mike Newton. Was it

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mister Newton's work in Lives between Lives, which is a

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fascinating concept. Anytime I talk to a channeler or I

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talked to a near death experiencer, I always go, so

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what do we do when we're not here? Are we

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at a bar somewhere on the other side? Are we

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sitting down. I mean, the concerts must be amazing up there.

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I mean, the musicians who have died. I mean, come on,

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I mean, so what are we doing? So can you

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first discuss your work with doctor Michael Newton?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Michael Newton was the first guy that thoroughly

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mapped the afterlife. And for him, he had a couple

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of accidental sessions with clients as a psychologist. They flipped

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up into other lifetimes and you know, one person went

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in between looking for the source of her depression and

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she reunited with a soul group. So he said, well,

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what's in between these incarnations? If we accept the fact

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that reincarnation is a phenomenon, what happens in between those?

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And we'd seen it as a sort of a misty,

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sort of Bardough type area. Of course, mediums and all

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sorts of people had been you know, getting snippets of

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the afterlife, talking to people, bringing through messages for you know,

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a long term. So he took people to the end

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of a past life, he crossed them over, he followed

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them in through the front door, through a life review.

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How do I go in that lifetime? Et cetera, et cetera.

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And then they went into this nebulous sort of now time,

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which was outside of any of the incarnations, and as

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they run in linear time, he moved into the space

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in between, so he had a sweeping view across the

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lineage of the soul and he can say to them,

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how many lifetimes you've had where that happened, and more importantly,

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how are you setting up this next one that you're

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Speaker 1: So how did he do How did he do that?

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How did he do that?

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Speaker 2: Well? He did it through a deep and profound hit

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not entrance, but for me, having been in that work

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for twenty years now, I see it more as an

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out of body experience remembered while still in body. Okay, okay,

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So he crossed them over into the afterlife, and we're

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quantumly entangled, if you like, with the soul energy of

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who we are that transcends time and space. So our

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soul is here. But Michael Newton found that part of

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the soul remains there still in the afterlife, so he

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bridged that gap so that we connected with that soul

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energy and you could sort of have a look around

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and what your role over there is.

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Speaker 1: When you see, he mapped out the afterlife. What is

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exactly the map? It's a fairly large question, but I mean,

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what is it? I mean, I mean, I mean, anyone

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who's listened to the show knows. I've spoken to over

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one hundred near death experiences, so many channel psychic medium

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so on and so forth. I have an idea from

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just the massive amount of people and masters I've spoken

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to what the afterlife is kind of like. But it's

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still pretty patchy even after all the research I've done.

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can you give us kind of a little bit more

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of the lee of the land if you will.

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Speaker 2: Happy too, Alex. And let me tell you where I'm

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coming from on that as well, because Michael did this

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seven thousand times. Wow, that was the client base before

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he started to publish his books Journey of Souls Destiny

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of Souls back in the nineties. So he's found that.

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And let me say as well that members of the

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Michael Newton Institute have reproduced his body of research ten

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, so with.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred people around the world in different countries and languages,

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the model is still pretty much the same, but there

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are some shifts in the research, and we can talk

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Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, absolutely, But he.

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Speaker 2: Found that when you go through this, you leave the

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body somehow your soul knows the way your eyes up

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out of the body, you drift back towards this other

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dimension that is the afterlife, and he found that you

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would usually sort of debrief that life, either in the

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company of a spiritual guide somebody like that. They'd help

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you to understand and glean the learnings from that life.

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be a creation of energy, or some people work to

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progress planets and help to design them. Some people work

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in different classes in a learning type environment, and whilst

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you might learn the theory there, you come back into

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an incarnation to do the practical exercises of how that

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looks in real life in three D. So spiritual councils

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would normally form a number of people around sort of

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a semicircle table, and they'd be offering advice and understanding.

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vibration there as well, that's always great to ask. But

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most importantly was the question I loved it to ask Alex,

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and that was have you ever incarnated on another planet

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or in another dimension? And some of the stories that

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came out of that question were just phenomenal, you know,

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stories of water worlds, stories of being an energetic type,

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being in an energy environment, you know, even being different

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types of animals that we don't have here, or different

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type of plant life. And someone told me that they

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were a rock on another planet just so they could

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learn stillness. But all of this is really how we

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set up the learning through each lifetimes that we take.

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Speaker 1: I think we could barely wrap our heads around just

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incarnations on Earth. If you start to jump around the universe,

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it's hard for people to even I don't think we're

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there yet most people, I'd say most people. Yeah, It's

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it's a difficult thing to kind of wrap your head around.

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So when when someone passes over and they're they've gone

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through their life review, we've learned our lessons, what's the

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next step do they is there? Do they go to

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their quote unquote house on the other side, or the

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world that they've designed on the others, their condo on

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the heavenly condo from I understand, you create whatever heaven

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you want on the other side. So do they go

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to that place rest for a while. Maybe, But there's

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no time on the other side. So how does that

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make sense? You know, there's so many it's hard. It's

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hard to wrap our head, our little heads around this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Look it is and to understand the concept of now

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time when we live in a linear construct is difficult.

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the more I've come to understand that time is a

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linear construct for a life, and that it's far more

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fluid than we know it to be. And you know,

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people like Einstein were always talking about the fluidity of time.

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sweeping view across the lineage of our soul, and we're

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both this persona but beyond this persona. And we have

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people that sit in the chair and they'll go back.

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with linear time. We go back. You've got a client

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that starts in the chair, then they become a past

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life persona of you know, they might be Native American,

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Ancient Greece, any of that sort of stuff, and they

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may speak a little bit differently, influenced by the environment

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in which they live in that body. Then they cross

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over and they're in this other place and they change

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into their soul consciousness, which is another voice again often

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with another name or so, who am I speaking with now?

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some sort of a name that's quite different. But from

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that they you know that quite will normally come with

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someone will come forward and they'll recognize them in their

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Speaker 2: And so you can start to ask some questions, how

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many lifetimes have you hung out together? Well, you know,

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we've incarnated fifty times now together because we just love

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learning together and we've played different roles and sometimes I've

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been the sister, sometimes I've been the mother sometimes the father,

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and this dynamic that they've formed often takes multiple angles

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across multiple lives to round out the learning at the

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Speaker 1: Now, this concept of there is no technically past lives

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now very difficult for you to wrap your head around.

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the concept of like, oh, ancient Egypt, Well, that's in

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our reality a past life, but really it's going on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Those bit of advice I open people that

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ask me that, I say, well, don't wrap your head

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around it, because it's not going to fit fair enough.

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alex to run with linear typ and to exist within

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linear time and for that to be the construct through

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which we exist. But when we move outside of that time,

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time slippage here or there along the way where time

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on what you're doing what's happening. Time, as I said before,

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and you know, a quantum physicists will answer this question

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as well that way, and I'm certainly not one. But

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what they'll do is they'll tell you that time is relative. Okay,

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so when we move into particularly long when you spend

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time with some of your relatives. But you know there's

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it showed us the fluidity of time through the eyes

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of our soul and that we could see. Well, yeah,

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understand it is to just experience it and to move

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outside of time and space yourself, similar to what you

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of the channels that you talk to as well give

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us your concept of time, and all of us came

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open to the fact that it's not as locky as

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what we feel.

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Speaker 1: And the idea that time is relative that I think

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everyone as at one point or another, has felt this,

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that you go beyond time where when you're enjoying yourself,

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time flies. But when you're not enjoying yourself at the DMV,

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you know, where you get your license here in the States,

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time goes very slowly. Or you're doing jury duty here,

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time goes very slowly, generally speaking. But when you're enjoying yourself,

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time flies. I think we've all felt that. Or if

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you're an athlete or a creative or an artist, that

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time you're doing your art, that time you're in the

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flow state. That's another thing that people use that word

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a lot. Now, the flow state, time completely almost disappears.

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when I'm in meditation, when I'm in it deep, it

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will go like that and I'll come out of it.

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I'm like, was that an hour and a half? Like

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I didn't even feel it. Yeah, you transcend time, So

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there are glimpses of that. It's not easily turned on

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and off. Maybe better so within meditation, but these other

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aspects of things, it's difficult, but it is. It's it's

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really it's like you said, you can't wrap your head

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around it. It's very difficult to start wrapping your head

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around this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Well, let me reassure you that the d m

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V experience is actually a global phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and what you mean you know there's no beautiful

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d m vs in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Well but I guess technically they're upside down, but they're

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still a long queue.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, I guess that's a very universal truth. Being ful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. You know. I once had a client say

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to me, and you know what people love to hear

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is I'd love to hear client stories because it makes

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it real. Sure. And I did one of these life

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between life sessions for a guy once and we crossed

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over from a past laugh. He went into the afterlife.

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We met his soul group. You know, he had a

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conversation with some wise beings there. He talked about how

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he'd set up the life he was in now and

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what his intentions and purpose were for coming back this time,

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which is a real power of the work. And and he's,

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you know, I'm starting to bring him back out of

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spirit and back into his body and all that sort

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of stuff. And he's got this frown on his face

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and he says blah blah blah. An he came back

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up and any sort of rare oriented and he looked

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at me and he said, I said, Uka, what's wrong.

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You look a bit troubled. And he said, why would

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you bring me back? After twenty minutes? I was just

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getting started, And I said, you've been down there two

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and a half hours.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's Tom Slippitch is ro phenomen And.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is really interesting. I'm assuming you've heard the

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concept of the Mendela effect. Absolutely so from your point

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of view from the work you've done. And I talked

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about the Mendel effect on the show constantly because I

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find it fascinating because there are absolute things that I,

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you know, I remember and others remember and they like

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and will you ask perfect example, this is something very American.

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But Ed McMahon, who was a comedian, I guess it's

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a comedian here who was on the Tonight Show. He

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was very well known for working with Publisher's Clearinghouse, which

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was basically you get a million dollar check, and he

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would go to people's doors and hand them a check

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with cameras and balloons, and it was a big thing.

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It's the eight mostly eighties and nineties, and for a

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generation of people, Ed McMahon was publisher's clearinghouse. Well, if

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you go to Publisher's Clearinghouse and you asked them, they've said,

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I'm sorry. Ed McMahon has never worked for us, has

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never been part of us. And there's there's just like,

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there's just no way, and I'm not the only one.

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There's so many people, and it goes on and on

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and on. Where do you think is happening because you

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said the word time slippage? What is happening to a

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large swath of the population that remember one thing and

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another large swap of population I remember something else.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've seen some of those stories about you know,

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the front of a cereal box now something spelled and

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all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I Jiffy the butter, Jiffy in a butter, yeah, that

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kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, we had an incident just

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yesterday here in the car, my partner and I we're

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driving back home from having lunch, and my partner says,

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that hill wasn't there yesterday, Like one side of the

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road is raised up. I said, She said, do you

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remember that side of the road being raised up like

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about you know, ten feet above the other side of

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the road with this thing in the middle. I said,

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I don't really, so what's going on there? And you

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start to get into multiverse there, And that's about how

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we move into different realities from the decisions that we make.

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There's splits in our timelines. We're continuing to unfold in

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different tracks and all of that, and some people remember

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one track and one people remember the other track. For me,

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this is about the thinning of the veil Alex and

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that all of those alternate realities used to be beautiful,

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beautifully divided, and our soul would go in a couple

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of different directions from a decision that we've made. And

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that's great because it's multiple learning at the soul level.

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And this is another one you can't get your head

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around in human form, But for me, the same way

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the veil is thinning for the afterlife, which is why

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there's so many mediums now, so many people are channeling,

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so many people having past life flashes. That veil is

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getting thin. But I actually believe that the veil between

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the different realities is getting thinner as well. So we

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have different timelines bleeding into each other, and people are

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jumping between those timelines because of the thinness of that veil.

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Speaker 1: So when you jump a timeline. So let's say right now,

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we're having this conversation, and then I decided to ask

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one question this way and then in another I'm like,

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oh no, but let's go with this other. So we

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ask two different questions. So now there's two different versions

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of this conversation that are going to finish off how

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they're going to finish off. Are there two of me

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at that point? And if there is two of soul

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level or version of me in this multiverse idea, well

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is it with every decision? Because then it's an infinite

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amount of you in this incarnation. Let's not even talk

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about passes in future lives. Let's just talk about this incarnation.

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Does it split off into literally an infinite infinite amount

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of versions of you learning at different levels? Did I

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marry Susie. Did I take that job with Bob? Did

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I go to school or decided to just smoke weed

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or like? Whatever the differences are? How many different versions

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are there is that kind of what's happening. We'll be

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right back after a word from our sponsor, and now

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back to the show.

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Speaker 2: I've got my own speculation on this because a lot

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of my work has been about blending the quantum physics

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with the spiritual side, and consciousness is the common language

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between the two, which is so powerful for me. I

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feel that some of these splits in the timeline doesn't

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happen with every tiny decision. And in the book I

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write about toast. Do I have jelly on my toast?

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Do I have pin a butter on motast? Do I

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have vegimite on motes? Which is what we do a

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lot of down here? You know? Does that give me

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three different toast realities? My take is that our timeline

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will split into the different realities in collaboration with our soul,

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and if the soul can learn something from that other line,

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it will follow into the other reality. I don't necessarily

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run with the quantum physics component that every small thing

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I pick up my pen or put my pen down,

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creates all these different realities. I don't necessarily go with

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that because I think we're powered by a greater consciousness ourselves.

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Even quantum physics is part of that beautiful soup of

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the all there is that is created by a power

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of which we're all part of, but is far greater

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than we believe ourselves to be human form. So I

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think there's a threshold of where these realities do continue

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to form because there are other paths of learning, and

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I think if something is another path of learning, yeah, absolutely,

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another reality. But I think tiny little small decisions. Now

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that's my tape.

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Speaker 1: I think your next book should be called The Toast Realities.

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Uh and and because it's such a fascinating idea, like,

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so you have three options for toast? Is it jelly,

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it's it butter? Said vis you might, Okay, well, does

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that really evolve your consciousness? Evolve your soul? And any

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three of those options. Now, if the jelly toast is

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hit by a comet, absolutely, you know. If there's an

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earthquake on the butter toast, oh absolutely, there's a there's

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absolutely you know, if you know, if there's something else

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that happens, an explosion happens that this, So those are

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not makes sense. But the toast itself is not something

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that is going to create a new reality. So it's

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going to be a little bit large. Sure, I like

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the way you put it. It's not like it's large events.

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It's events that your soul can grow from. So that

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means that the soul is growing at such a rapid

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rate down here, more so than it does on the

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other side. Is it the equivalent of reading about how

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to beak and actually beaking or cooking?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'd call it a baking boot camp down here, okay,

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because it's such an intense experience with all of our

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human emotions and the vibrational frequencies that we have. And

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one of the things I've discovered, Alex, is that these

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realities are closer than we know. I mean, it's like

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we're just changing the dial on the radio and all

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of a sudden, it's the same box, but you're in

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a completely different frequency. And I found that many many

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years ago when I was doing past life work. You'd

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have to sometimes labor to get these people across into

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these other lifetimes. But with the realities, they seem so

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much closer due to the greater level of quantum entanglement

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we hold with those other versions of ourselves in this

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type of body. So for me, yeah, they're right there

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and they're waiting to be discovered. And I think a

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lot of this goes back to the pre planning before

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we come here I mentioned before and Michael Newton's model

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of the spiritual universe that we set up a life

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before we come I think we actually set up some

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of these decision points as Okay, I'm going to get

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to that decision point in my life. It's pre set.

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I'll end there, I'll go in different directions, and the

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sole follows in both. I've had people say to me

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over the years, I always knew my dad was going

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to die when I was young, or I always knew

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there'd be a big car accident in my life that

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would change my life. I've been seeing flashes of things,

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and that's from the pre cog. That comes from the

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pre sole planning before we arrive.

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Speaker 1: That's a really interesting concept because I've never really heard

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it presented that way before the pre cog. I mean

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we've now, I mean, if you've seen the pre a

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Minority report, I'm a movie guy, So I always use

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movies as a reference, or if you use them, a

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great movie. But the precog idea where you know the

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future before it happens, well, there's elements of that in

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our lives all the time, like you pick up the

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phone and you know who it is before it rings,

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or stuff like that kind of happens. But having large

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pre cog ideas or events that are almost haunting you

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or that you have a gut feeling about, is really

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really interesting. I mean, have you met with a lot

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of clients who had those kind of things happened, that

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they felt those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: There's this little thing called soul sapag.

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Speaker 1: Well what's that. I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 2: Well, the soul's always they sure. I mean the hardware

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in the software, we're a complete unit, you know, and

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the souls the software. And let me say that how

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much the soul loves us to Alex, because it's really

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important to remember that the soul to be us. Your

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soul shows you head of eight billion other options on

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this planet and you're the only one that would do okay.

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So I believe that's the greatest act of unconditioned to

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love that we will ever experience. Okay, so that's how

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much our soul loves us and our soul steers us.

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So some of this soul seepage are these funny little

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bits of influence that move their way through into our life,

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and they give us those moments of blissful insight when

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we either we know we're on track, or something happens

477
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,279
that goes beyond coincidence, like Carl Jung's theory of synchronicity,

478
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,039
something that doesn't make sense but still happens. And I

479
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:45,839
remember when I first found Journey of Souls, Michael Newton's

480
00:26:45,839 --> 00:26:49,839
first book. I was a young hypnotherapist looking for a

481
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:53,039
gift for friends, to it in front of a Border's bookshop.

482
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,200
If you remember Borders, They're gone there. Yeah, I stood

483
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,279
there and I stepped forward, but eyes shut, and I

484
00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,640
pulled the book off the shelf and it was Journey

485
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,599
of Solt It was book. And when I read the

486
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,359
back of that, something happened inside of me that felt

487
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,440
like an earthquake had happened in Borders bookstore. And I

488
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,039
look around them. Everyone else is just reading books or

489
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,160
drinking coffee or doing the stuff. But people used to

490
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,680
do it borders, and so it was one of those

491
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:23,640
moments that was a soul seevage, that was my soul saying,

492
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,759
this is an important moment. Don't lose the energy of

493
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:30,000
what's just happened. And the rest was history. And I

494
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:32,039
went and learned the work, got to work with Michael

495
00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,519
Leddy's organization for ten years, and that was because it

496
00:27:35,559 --> 00:27:38,640
was one of those quintessential spiritual moments of truth.

497
00:27:39,599 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting thinking about that kind of

498
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,559
scenario in my life where I didn't come from a

499
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,960
movie family. I was far away from Hollywood as almost

500
00:27:50,039 --> 00:27:54,519
you can be in South Florida. And it was the eighties,

501
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,240
so leave eighties, not a lot of information about movies,

502
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,079
movie maker, all that stuff. Now it out it's everybody.

503
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,559
Everybody knows how to make movies. It's all. It's everywhere

504
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,880
you can YouTube everything. Back then it wasn't so it

505
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,880
wasn't even considered a career. But yet I was looking

506
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,200
for a part time job, and the job I chose

507
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,200
was a video store. Oddly enough, it wasn't like I was, Oh,

508
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,119
I need to work, It was, oh, this might be cool.

509
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,480
And then my grandfather gifted me a video camera, a

510
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:28,720
little high eight old school video camera which I started

511
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,240
to play around with, and I'm like, hmm, and then

512
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:36,519
that it just it's just so fascinating how those things

513
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:38,839
just started to guide me in the in the direction

514
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,599
of this insane idea of becoming a filmmaker in a

515
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,559
time where that wasn't even the thing, let alone for

516
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,599
my Latino family, who looked at me like, are you crazy?

517
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,359
What do you want? That's what? Are you gonna be Spielberg,

518
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640
That's not gonna make it. This makes no sense. So

519
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,920
it was it's fascinating that those there are moments like that.

520
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,359
There are books like that that happened. Autobiography of a

521
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,680
Yogi is one of those books. For me. When I

522
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,759
was given that book, it was just like I've had

523
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:06,720
books that almost vibrate when I had hooked them up.

524
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:11,839
They just they're like the information is so important to

525
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:15,640
my evolution in this life that after I read that book,

526
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,000
I was a changed person, like completely changed. And there

527
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:21,000
are a handful of those books that were gifted to me,

528
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,599
or at least recommended to me, that change your whole perception.

529
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
So as we were talking about alternative realities, I'm like, well,

530
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,079
there's there. Then there's an all a reality where I

531
00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:34,880
didn't start to show yeah and that, and I don't

532
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,440
know where that reality would go. I wouldn't be happy

533
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,880
about that reality. I don't want to go there. I

534
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,759
don't want to be in that in reality. But I

535
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920
wonder what would have happened. You know, what would have

536
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,759
happened if I didn't get that job at the video store?

537
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:50,319
You know what if my grandfa hadn't given me a

538
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,240
video camera? Like, what would have happened to my life?

539
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:56,400
Where would I be? What interest would have been pulled towards?

540
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,599
It's pretty it's pretty pretty fascinating. You start thinking about

541
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000
the what ifs, and then not only the what ifs,

542
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,960
so what oh if I would have dated her, if

543
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:09,319
I would have gotten that job, but then thinking, oh

544
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:12,640
wait a minute, there is a version of me going

545
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,680
down that road. What is that?

546
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:15,119
Speaker 2: Like?

547
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: What is That's that Alex or that Peter dealing with? Like, yeah,

548
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:25,960
it starts to really hurt your a lot. Don't you

549
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,519
start thinking that much about it. We'll be right back

550
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,559
after a word from our sponsor, and now back to

551
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:36,960
the show.

552
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, one thing I said about those books that Bob

553
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,359
Wright as well, is that books come through authors and

554
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,400
not from authors.

555
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,839
Speaker 1: Read one hundred percent.

556
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,039
Speaker 2: And I remember the Quantum Consciousness book, the Celeste Kelly book,

557
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:57,160
the bus two I've written. I remember going back and

558
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,640
rewriting what I've done and saying, hey, this this is

559
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,119
some this sounds pretty.

560
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:04,039
Speaker 1: Good running I did. I say that all the time, like,

561
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,960
who wrote this? This is fantastic.

562
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,359
Speaker 2: So so it's like the messages are permeated with these

563
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:17,720
frequencies that people made. Yeah, I mean the beautiful frequencies

564
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,160
coming through from other places.

565
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:21,799
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean Autobiography of a Yogi is one of

566
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:26,759
those books. And yeah, that those words are still vibrating

567
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,920
after years decades after his passing. And many I mean

568
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,440
from the Vedic texts to I mean so many ancient

569
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,640
wisdom I mean the talte cheg and so on. It

570
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:45,200
is pretty pretty fascinating, the whole concept of the multiverse.

571
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:49,039
Do you think now that the that there's so much

572
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:53,160
talk about the multiverse and parallel realities, These are concepts

573
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,880
are being tossed around fairly in the zeitgeist in popular

574
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,000
culture now, where ten years ago the multiverse was really

575
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:08,279
on the fringe, either science or sci fi comic books.

576
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,839
You know, the geeks this isn't read comic books like myself.

577
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,519
We're discovering the multiverse idea. But now people are talking

578
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:20,519
about this conversation like we're really having deep conversations about

579
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,240
parallel realities, parallel the multiverse, all that kind of stuff.

580
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,000
Do you think it's why do you think that's happening

581
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,039
now and not fifty years ago?

582
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: My take is it's the evolution of consciousness, Alex. We're

583
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,319
ready to know that we are multi dimensional beings living

584
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:40,400
in a multiverse. And some of the work that we've

585
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,480
been doing is we've been we've been connecting with some

586
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:47,559
of these other versions of ourselves because the quantum entanglement

587
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,039
is so high that we can have conversations with these others.

588
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,400
And I've been training guys to do that for a

589
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,519
number of years. Now. As you go to a decision,

590
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,079
you wonder what would have happened any other direction, And

591
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:02,599
we take them out of their body and we go

592
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,119
to a meeting place where they can talk to that

593
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,279
other version of themselves with the full and complete intention

594
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920
of raising the vibration of both because when we can

595
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,759
swap intel, share wisdom, offer advice, do healing, whatever it

596
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:21,559
might be that raises the vibration of our multidimensional self

597
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,039
times two and even to offer information to get gratitude back.

598
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:27,400
That's a beautiful exchange.

599
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: Can you explain the concept of quantum entanglement just a

600
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:34,599
little bit to people who don't understand what that is,

601
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:38,000
because it's a very important concept from quantum physics that

602
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:42,359
the spiritual space is really grabbing a hold of, because

603
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680
it just really reinforces the concept that we are all connected.

604
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Well Einstein called it spooky action at a distance,

605
00:33:50,839 --> 00:33:56,279
but that wasn't all that helpful. Yeah, but make quantum

606
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:03,680
entanglement is the personal experience of everything being connected. And

607
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,079
it's like that example you mentioned before, Alex. You know

608
00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:09,280
who's ringing when the phone goes, so you know it's

609
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,719
going to be And for us, there's the concept that

610
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,840
once too particles have a relationship, they can never be disengaged,

611
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,239
even though they might be light years away from each other.

612
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,320
And it's like the connectivity with the people that we're

613
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,599
close to is always there. I've had people say to me,

614
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,000
you know, I knew the moment my dad died, you know,

615
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,199
and I knew the moment that this happened or that

616
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,880
happened it's because we are connected, and when we move

617
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,719
into this ocean of consciousness that connects us all, we

618
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,000
can feel the sensations and trust our intuition to know

619
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:52,599
things that we wouldn't know otherwise. So for me, it's

620
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:57,000
about personal connectivity into this whole tapestry of all there is.

621
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:00,000
And it takes many different forms, large and small.

622
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: But this but quantum entanglement alone, just that one concepting

623
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:08,360
quantum physics throws materialism and space and time out the window. Essentially,

624
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,639
it does so by doing that, I'm assuming there's been

625
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,360
some pushback from the physics community.

626
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't talk to those guys really much. Have

627
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,360
a couple of chats with a couple of quantum physicists

628
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,800
over the years, and some of them are really interesting

629
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:27,280
in consciousness.

630
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's it's it's interesting how these two worlds

631
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,440
are starting to combine more and more and more. Let

632
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,519
me ask you, what do you what do you think

633
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:42,119
our understanding of consciousness is being impacted by this idea

634
00:35:42,159 --> 00:35:44,880
of this parallel realities and multiverse.

635
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 2: I think we're slowly discovering the consciousness is bigger than

636
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,360
we thought. Alex, you know what is consciousness? You know

637
00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,679
I think everything is consciousness, but there's an infrastructure behind

638
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,599
it as well. And people say to me, you know,

639
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,519
what is consciousness that I answer it in a way

640
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:07,360
that says that, well, the universe's energy. Everything's made up

641
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,360
of energy. That's the infrastructure of the entire universe. And

642
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,199
a breaking master will tell you that, our quantum physicist

643
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,599
will tell you that is that everything is energy. But

644
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:20,639
then there's a layer on that energy that is like consciousness,

645
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:24,960
and that's what brings that infrastructure to life. And we

646
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,679
are walking examples of that life because we are consciousness.

647
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,679
We are all connected to everything and everyone on that

648
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,840
infrastructure of energy, and then we surf our way through

649
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,920
that through our awareness. So we would put our focus

650
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,079
where it's called our observer effect, called whatever you want

651
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,639
to where we put our focus, that is where it

652
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:51,360
takes us in the experience of that consciousness on that

653
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,440
infrastructure of energy. So I mean, this gets complicated, So

654
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,920
I'll try to use an analogy. If you look at

655
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,199
the ocean, okay, and the ocean floor is the infrastructure

656
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:09,039
of energy. The water in the ocean is consciousness because

657
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:12,039
it flows everywhere and it's all connected, and our awareness

658
00:37:12,199 --> 00:37:16,239
of the sea creatures that move through that ocean of

659
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,519
consciousness support above the sea floor to have the experiences

660
00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:19,960
that they have.

661
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,639
Speaker 1: From my experiences talking to near deaths, and I'm assuming

662
00:37:23,679 --> 00:37:26,599
from yours as well, from talking to life between life

663
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,519
regressions on the other side, there is no time or space,

664
00:37:33,559 --> 00:37:39,039
so things happen instantly. You think it, you're there. It's

665
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,360
an instant scenario that I'm assuming more of a what

666
00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:49,480
quantum entanglement is at the highest level, where down here

667
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,440
it's as much as we can make it work in

668
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,639
the three dimensional space, in the material space. Is that

669
00:37:57,679 --> 00:37:58,360
a fair statement.

670
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's it's a great statement. The instantaneous

671
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,920
manipulation of energy is a real characteristic of the spiritual

672
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,719
realm and beyond. And I think a lot of the things,

673
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,239
the experiences that we have on the other side are

674
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,800
almost metaphoric because we need to be able to integrate them.

675
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,880
And this is back to my comment before about how

676
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,119
human consciousness is at a stage where we're able to

677
00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,679
understand our multi dimensional realities while still in three D.

678
00:38:26,519 --> 00:38:28,880
This is a big shift for the evolution of consciousness

679
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,039
because more advanced races that are out there apparently express

680
00:38:34,119 --> 00:38:38,360
and live and know their multidimensional nature of being. We're

681
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,159
moving towards that as part of our own evolution. But yeah,

682
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:44,119
when we're out of our body and we're not restricted

683
00:38:44,159 --> 00:38:47,639
by three D, we are limitless. We can do anything

684
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:51,480
that we want. It's a beautiful thing. But those experiences

685
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:54,440
still need to be integrated here so that the awareness increases.

686
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,599
So some of the things over there are a little

687
00:38:56,639 --> 00:39:00,480
metaphoric meeting in a garden with your spiritual god or

688
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,880
going to a temple, that sort of stuff. You know,

689
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,800
did someone build a temple over there? Well, now it's

690
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,079
a construct for learning that we bring back into here

691
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:11,559
in a way that we can integrate it.

692
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,199
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you look at what like the

693
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:20,800
eternal Saint Baba Gee from the Yogananda's book, who's apparently

694
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,039
still alive, been a live for about twenty five hundred

695
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:26,880
years or more here helping humanity. In the book, he

696
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,119
creates a crystal castle instantly out of his own will.

697
00:39:32,519 --> 00:39:34,519
He's at a whole other level. Let's just throw it there.

698
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:38,039
He's neo for lack of a better word, He's neo

699
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:41,599
in the matrix. He understands the code and can manipulate it. However,

700
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,559
he likes. But that is also how a lot of

701
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:48,480
these spiritual masters who've walked the earth, either ascended masters

702
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:54,360
or walking masters, have understood our construct this simulated reality

703
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,199
that we're in at such a high level that, for

704
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,159
lack of a better word, they understand the code, and

705
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:02,800
because you understand the code of it, they can manipulate

706
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,519
the code. Hence yogic powers, miracles, you know, things like that,

707
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:12,840
what looks to us as miracles is just a manipulation

708
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:17,000
of reality because they just understand things at a different level.

709
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,199
Is that a fair statement.

710
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a great statement. Yeah, you know, and

711
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:25,880
I think we're in the process of gradually uncovering our

712
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,239
magnificence so that we can know who we really are.

713
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,400
And you know, one of the questions I've had over

714
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,639
the years from clients is I just want to know

715
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:38,480
that I'm normal, And I say, well, you're actually paranormal.

716
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: Right, We're all well, I mean, if you just even say,

717
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:44,400
listen to what Jesus said back in the day, everything

718
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,039
I can do, you can do and more. It's it's

719
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:50,840
there's not special beings that come down. There might be

720
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,079
more evolved soul wise to get to these points, but

721
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,719
we're all capable of it. Every single one of us

722
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,960
will be right back after a word from our sponsor.

723
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:10,679
And now back to the show. During all of your work,

724
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:15,599
have you had a profound session that really just rocked

725
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,639
your world in a way that just changed you? And

726
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,639
what was that session?

727
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: What happened for me as the facilitator or both?

728
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:26,599
Speaker 1: Either one?

729
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let me offer a couple of little snippets

730
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,760
that would be helpful for people as well. And this

731
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,679
goes back to that magnificence of who we are. And

732
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,599
I once had a client and we're in the life

733
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:42,360
between life state and they speak from their soul alex.

734
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,239
They're in a different person, different voice, everything. And I

735
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,800
said to this client, I said to her, why did

736
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,679
you choose this body? And she says to me, well,

737
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,360
I'm a researcher from another dimension and I'm researching the

738
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,159
human brain and I'm here to do research. The best

739
00:42:01,159 --> 00:42:03,880
way to do that was to actually incarnate and have one.

740
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,440
I said, oh, how that's going, She says, going very well,

741
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,840
She's do you have any questions. I'm a bit stuck

742
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,960
for an answer, so I pulled something out of the

743
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,119
air and I said, well, why do we only why

744
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,320
do we only use a certain percentage of our brain,

745
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,159
like fifteen or twenty percent? And she said to me,

746
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,239
very matter effectively, who told you that? And I said, well,

747
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,000
that's what our scientists are saying. And she says, well,

748
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,119
they're wrong. She says, the only reason you think that

749
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,840
is because you haven't invented the machines that can measure

750
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,480
what the brain is actually doing. And I thought, wow,

751
00:42:42,599 --> 00:42:47,039
imagine if you had one of those machines. Yeah, but

752
00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:48,679
that was just fantastic.

753
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but to be fair, there are things

754
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,079
now that we're able to see with machines and technology.

755
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,880
One hundred years ago we're been heresy. We would have

756
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,039
been burned at the stake. Oh absolutely, I mean, so

757
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:07,679
that is not that far of a stretch. I mean,

758
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,000
one hundred years from now that we're able to check

759
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:16,559
that we were able to measure psychic ability, levels of consciousness,

760
00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:20,079
I don't know, whatever, whatever, those things that the brain

761
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,639
is doing, being able to manifest and create your reality

762
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:27,559
based on your focus, those might be a measurable thing

763
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:31,440
in the future. Why wouldn't it be. It's as insane

764
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,480
as a saying that there is radio waves in the

765
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:40,000
air two hundred years ago, like people were like, what

766
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,320
are you talking about? You're insane.

767
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that example because all of that is

768
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,519
out there and we can't say it correct and all

769
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:52,199
you're going to do is turn your radio on and

770
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:54,960
adjust that frequency and you can get a dozen different

771
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,400
stations in ten seconds. It's just fantastic. And I love

772
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,440
that as an allergy and something that Bruce Lipton say

773
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:05,719
once which I loved about the radio as well, and

774
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,960
he said, looking for consciousness in the brain is like

775
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:17,000
looking inside the radio for the announcer. That's a great love.

776
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,559
Speaker 1: That great, great, great Stavid. What is the biggest some

777
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:28,679
of the biggest misconceptions about quantum consciousness that people have

778
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:29,280
out there?

779
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me define it first, because it's important

780
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:36,880
that those two two words work together. And for me,

781
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,239
quantum physics is the science of possibility. Okay, You've got,

782
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,400
for example, m theory, which is talking about eleven different dimensions,

783
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,800
and the maths works. One of them's time, the other

784
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,199
ten of space. You know, we're mathematically condoning of these

785
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:59,480
other dimensions actually exist. So for me, quantum physics is

786
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,360
starting to the right questions and they don't know they

787
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,960
have the answers, and I think Tom Campbell said it

788
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,119
beautifully on one of your chats. You know, they got

789
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:13,400
no idea. So, you know, quantum physics is the science

790
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,159
of possibility and consciousness of the fabric of the universe.

791
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,360
That's all there is. Consciousness is the lifeblood that brings

792
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,000
that infrastructure to life. When you put quantum consciousness together,

793
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960
you've got the signs of possibility in the fabric of

794
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,039
the universe. You put them together, and it's important for

795
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:36,840
people to know that we are quantum consciousness. Okay, so

796
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:43,119
the misconceptions going to that. The misconceptions are that we

797
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:47,480
are limited. You know, people see quantum physics as science.

798
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:51,880
It's as much philosophy as it is science. People see

799
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,079
consciousness of I'm awake where I'm asleep. That's not right either.

800
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,159
I think one thing that we've been trained to do

801
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,159
in human form is to live our limited lives when

802
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:07,679
we are so much more so, for me, the greatest

803
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,239
misconception is that the truth has been hidden from us

804
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,880
that we are limitless. We are magnificent beyond our knowing.

805
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,199
We are multi dimensional beings in a multiverse, and we

806
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,079
will never die, we will continue, and we're here to

807
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:20,960
make a difference.

808
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: To the world. What would you say to somebody whose

809
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,360
brain is frying right now because everything that we're talking

810
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,079
about goes against the programming that they've grown up with.

811
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, move from the brain into the heart because that's

812
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,760
where that's the gateway to the soul.

813
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: So what advice would you give somebody who is saying

814
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,920
this is all a bunch of hogwash, this is all crazy,

815
00:46:48,119 --> 00:46:51,280
you're all nuts. Bit the skeptic, what would you say

816
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,559
to them?

817
00:46:51,639 --> 00:46:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I was a good sep skeptic in the

818
00:46:53,679 --> 00:46:55,599
early days. That's how I got into this is because

819
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,800
I was came from non believer, which I think is healthy.

820
00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 1: Oh it is, it is.

821
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, don't take our word for it.

822
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,400
If you're open to it, have the experience, you know, explore,

823
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,320
whether it's buying a book, or whether it's going to

824
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,239
a workshop, or whether it's still in a session with

825
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,760
someone who knows what they're doing, whatever it might be.

826
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:23,239
You know, just explore, because you don't understand your limitlessness

827
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,480
until you start to explore it, and then it's like

828
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,679
a trailer breadcrumbs that leads to your way.

829
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,599
Speaker 1: Are there going to be any do you foresee any

830
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:38,320
significant advancements in quantum physics that are going to shape

831
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:44,559
our collective reality in what we're doing in the spiritual space.

832
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: Probably not my field of quantum physics itself, but if

833
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,840
I can offer the quantum physics or something is to

834
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,199
move beyond being a scientist and be an explorer. And

835
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,440
I think we just cover more when we forget everything

836
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,719
that we've ever learned and we move beyond those scientific

837
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,679
restrictions which might have to do about research funding, peer review.

838
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,239
All of these things are designed to trap us into

839
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,039
a materialistic sort of view of science. But my take

840
00:48:19,159 --> 00:48:22,559
is that science was originally invented to explore the new horizons,

841
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,159
and you do it with the eyes of wonder of

842
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:31,079
a small child. That's what I'd offer the scientists.

843
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: Do you believe that not only do we individually have consciousness,

844
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:42,119
but there is a consciousness for humanity and arguably a

845
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:47,679
consciousness for the planet that is shifting right now in

846
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,599
a way that has been more profound than any other

847
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,679
time in human history. Regarding the last not just the

848
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,000
last six thousand years was what mainstream archaeo letists say

849
00:48:58,039 --> 00:49:01,880
that we've been around, but more so one hundred years

850
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,599
two hundred dozen years. However long we've been here. Do

851
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:06,719
you believe that I do?

852
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,159
Speaker 2: I did not just believe it, Alex. I get to

853
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:13,280
live it through the eyes of my clients and the

854
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:19,159
people that we teach this work to, where forever starting

855
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:24,199
new projects, we're opening new boundaries, We're surrendering more and more.

856
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:27,400
Even Michael Newton's original work is now evolving, and then

857
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,079
the Michael Newton Institute we're working on that at the

858
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,360
moment as well. The quantum consciousness work that I'm doing,

859
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,559
we're now moving further out from some of the quantum

860
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:40,079
principles and exploring more from the consciousness end, from the

861
00:49:40,159 --> 00:49:43,559
quantum end. I think everything is continuing to unfold, and

862
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:46,639
not just that, but it's speeding up. And I think

863
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,840
that we are the horizon of a whole new consciousness

864
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,039
for humanity as we discover more of ourselves. You know,

865
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,199
I'm having conversations with people, like you said before, I'm

866
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,599
having conversations with people I wouldn't have had ten years ago.

867
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,199
And you're right, hundred years ago it would have burned

868
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,840
us at the stake, and many of us did that.

869
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,280
But you know, I just think that we're in the

870
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,039
middle of a great awakening, and what we see in

871
00:50:11,079 --> 00:50:14,920
the turmoil in the world is actually a characteristic of change.

872
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:17,440
And the things that we're changing need to come into

873
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,639
our line of sight so that we can feel into

874
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:21,559
them to know that we don't want that anymore, and

875
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,239
we're going to let it go, and I think that's

876
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,320
going to set humanity for it.

877
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

878
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,360
and now back to the show. So moving forward, because

879
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,440
that's a good point that there is a lot of

880
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,320
stuff going on right now in the world and this

881
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:48,400
great time of great awakening where there is these conversations

882
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,079
happening more and more all the time. If the numbers

883
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,760
of my show are in the indication, that means that

884
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,320
there's people who really want this information. We're searching for

885
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:03,760
this information. But the exact same time as this positive

886
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:08,760
aspect of humanity is growing, the negative seems to be

887
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:14,239
growing at a similar rate. Where there's wars in conflicts

888
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:18,840
from thousands of years ago boiling up, you know, ideas

889
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,760
of racism coming out into the forefront at all all

890
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,360
all fronts. It's it's fascinating to see all of that's

891
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,079
happening at the same time. But do you think it's

892
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:34,440
going to get a little bit worse before it gets

893
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,960
a little bit better? Quote unquote from your perspective and your.

894
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 2: Work, my take is that it's always been there.

895
00:51:43,159 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no question.

896
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,039
Speaker 2: And you can't you can't hear something that until it

897
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:50,280
comes into your line of side. You can't decide that

898
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,159
you don't want it anymore. And I think it looks

899
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:55,960
like it's getting worse, but I since it was always

900
00:51:56,039 --> 00:52:00,360
there originally anyway. But you know, when you when you're out,

901
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:06,960
you're covered. You come across the cobwebs. Humanity. Humanity is

902
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,679
still that big time. You know. We did some research

903
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:14,480
at Michael Newton Institute and there's a I just put

904
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,039
this to the side in case I could use that

905
00:52:16,119 --> 00:52:18,320
as a comment. But what we did we took twenty

906
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,679
five people down into this in between spiritual type state

907
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,639
and the other side, and we said, you know, what's

908
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,000
happening in the world, And this was with everything that's

909
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,559
happened over the last few years. And I'll just do

910
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:35,119
one little quote which was really powerful. Imagine a table

911
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:40,679
covered with debris. This was about the whole COVID thing

912
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,119
as well. Comes along with a sweeping arm and it

913
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:47,199
completely clears the table off. Now it's got nothing on it.

914
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,280
Humans being asked what do you want to put back

915
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,039
on the table and what do you want to leave behind?

916
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,719
And I think that summarizes where humanity is at. What

917
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,199
do we want to leave behind? Let's find the pieces

918
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,800
and let bring them into our line of sight and

919
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,559
let's let them go.

920
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: That was beautiful, By the way, What is the most

921
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,440
important message you want people to take away from the

922
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,840
relationship between quantum physics, consciousness, and our spiritual existence.

923
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,599
Speaker 2: You are a unique collection of subatomic particles. You are

924
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:28,039
powered by consciousness, you are quantum consciousness, you are the

925
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:32,519
spiritual being having the human experience, and you are maldi dimension.

926
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:37,079
So I would just offer to people that what you've

927
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,519
asked in that question, Alex is the great summary of

928
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:43,639
who they are, because everyone is all of that. And

929
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:46,800
when we transcend the society or conditioning that we've been

930
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,760
offered since we were kids, it permeates our business systems,

931
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,760
medical systems, education systems, all of it. It's all permeated

932
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,559
with You are limited, and I want to say that

933
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,360
that's all based upon a lie. So when you find

934
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,840
your own truth, you're set free from the matrix, if

935
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,039
you want to call it that. I think everyone is new.

936
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:11,679
Speaker 1: Everyone has the potential to be here. There's no question

937
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,440
about it, no question about it. One other thing, you

938
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:21,039
said that mister Newton's are Doctor Newton's Foundation has changed

939
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:23,159
a little bit of his findings over the course of

940
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:26,559
their What were there some of the differences between his

941
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,639
work and the Institute's work.

942
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael passed now seven years ago, so it's been

943
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:38,719
a while that we've carried on his work to forty countries,

944
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,760
twenty five languages, reproducing what he originally found. But we're

945
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,519
seeing a letting go of the structure. And some of

946
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:49,920
the main trends that we're seeing is people don't need

947
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,880
the whole structure that I described to you earlier in

948
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:58,000
this conversation. People are not needing that sort of structure

949
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to be able to get the information they need. We've

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got a lot of people who are here incarnating on

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Earth now who have a lineage that goes off world,

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that have incarnated in other places, other dimensions, etc. And

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they've been drawn here to be part of this incredible change.

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You've got to change the ingredients of the cake if

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you want to bake differently. And thirdly, there's this huge

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shift Alex from me to we. Be doing the life

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between life's work for twenty years and I look at

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people fifteen twenty years ago when they were first coming

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to me, and they would say, what's my purpose for

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this lifetime? What am I here to do? Now people

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are saying, I'm here to do something, to be part

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of something that's far bigger than me. I've come here

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for the awakening of consciousness. So the shift from me

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to we, I think is a great indication of our

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shift into this oneness that we're starting to experience more of.

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And the way to experience woneness is to work out

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where not in the wonderers, and those are the pieces

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that need to be fixed.

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Speaker 1: I'll be I'm going to ask a few questions to

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ask on my guests. What is your definition of living

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a fulfilled life?

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Speaker 2: It's about being in resonance, in resonance with your soul

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and the plan that you came here to do and

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to contribute to something beyond yourself. And I feel that

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that brings a level of resonance to your life that

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just allows you to experience fulfillment, to know that you're

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on track and that allows you to be a peace.

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Speaker 1: If you can go back in time and talk to

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a little PD, what advice would you get them?

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Speaker 2: Get out of the banking industry quicker?

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Speaker 1: But in another reality, you did get out of the

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banking earlier. So that is living a much higher life

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than you are, sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I had twenty years in corporate life. But

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what that taught me. I taught me a lot about leadership,

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taught me a lot about communication. And when the Marca

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when Institute needed a finance policy, I was the guy

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to write one for them so that we were sustainable

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for future generations and everything everything serves. But I would

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I'd also say, more seriously, I'd say a little pee,

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maintain the eyes through which you see the world that

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are full of awe and wonder and hold on to

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that as you get older, because they will steer you

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from the purity of your soul.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that the reason why children have such

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a purity of heart, because they're closer to source. They

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just got here so they haven't been kind of muddied

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up the by the system as much. And BELI and

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also as you get older, when you're closing in on

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the end, you start to change as well in other

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ways as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're sort of revert back. And I've got a

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mum who's closed to transition now and she sees things

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sometimes she grabs things in the air. What you're doing there?

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I know this just needs to be fixed. Is she

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opening a portal to the afterlife? Is she having a

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memory of pick and fruit when she was a kid.

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I'm not sure what she's doing, but I know that

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she's getting closer and the environment around her is changing.

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She sees things now. I think she's piercing the veil.

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How do you define dad or source? Ultimately, it comes

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back to two things. It comes back to love and

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it comes back to us. And if I look at

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that ocean of consciousness that I talked about, all those

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water droppedlets are permeated with love. There's something in water

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and consciousness that is yet to be discovered, will be

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at some point. I've had clients tell me about that

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that we're missing what the potential of water really is

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and we're like seventy percent water as well. So there's

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something there that's going to be uncovered at some point.

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But for me, you know, I don't have a traditional

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Biblical view of God. I have it as sort of

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the oneness of which we are all apart and together.

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In that woneness we are go.

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Speaker 1: And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

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Speaker 2: I feel it's to learn and grow and evolve. But

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if I look at why do we take human form

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the purpose of a life? I like to feel that

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it's about making a difference in the lives of others.

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Speaker 1: And where can people find out more about you and

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the work you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Michael, you can institute. We're out there at Newton Institute

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dot org. The other work that I do with quantum

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consciousness is Quantumconsciousness dot com. You and we have an institute,

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a game with sixty people around the world, and you're

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the chief for quantum Consciousness yep is the chief for

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Quantumconsciousness dot com. There is that book, and more recently

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I wrote a book following that one, The Transcendence of

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celest Kelly. This is my worn version, but in that

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book I put together a whole aspect of all of

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the work that I've done over twenty years. I built

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into a story about a quantum physicist that goes chasing consciousness.

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People try to stop her. Her father died in mysterious

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circumstances because he was issuing free energy, and she accidentally

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stumbles across the metaphysical approach that quantum physics has been missing,

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and she finds a way in which to collapse timelines

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into a future Earth that is everything that we wanted

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to be.

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Speaker 1: A friend, and do you have a parting message for

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the ideas, We'll be right back after a word from

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our sponsor, and now back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Don't explore, discover who you really are, and that will

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not just be great for you, but it'll be great

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for everybody around you, because you'll encourage them to do

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the same for me. It's the ripple effect. One person

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wakes up, tells another person who wakes up, tells another

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couple who wake up, and we can take humanity into

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a whole new consciousness and finally understand the potential of

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who we are better.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for this conversation. I appreciate this

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conversation and everything you're doing for the world, my friend,

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So thank you, and I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I've got to say right back at you, Alex. You're

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having some conversations that are changing lives. Thank you for

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what you do.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this secret time with us today.

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If you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll

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