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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the qure side Quantum Physics Podcast, an exploration

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<v Speaker 1>of the fundamental structure of reality where quantum laws govern matter, energy,

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<v Speaker 1>and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding begins with the smallest scales.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine you're holding a computer processor right like, right in

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<v Speaker 2>the palm of your hand, and this chip has the

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<v Speaker 2>power to cure complex genetic diseases in a matter of days, or.

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<v Speaker 3>Unravel the most secure cryptographic codes on Earth in seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. The potential is literally sitting right there. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you actually look at it, and I mean literally,

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<v Speaker 2>if a single stray particle of ambient light bounces off it,

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing shatters.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Or if the temperature in the room changes by

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<v Speaker 3>even a fraction of a degree, the calculation is just

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<v Speaker 3>ruined instantly.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so frustrating. I mean, that is the almost absurd

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<v Speaker 2>reality of quantum computing today. We have this theoretical magic,

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<v Speaker 2>this unimaginable computational power, but it's trapped.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, trapped inside some of the most delicate, fragile hardware

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<v Speaker 3>ever conceived.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And to keep these machines running, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>lock them inside these massive dilution refrigerators cooled to what

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<v Speaker 2>fractions of a degree above absolute zero.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a colder than deep space, which is just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an unsustainable brute force way to protect something delicate.

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<v Speaker 2>But researchers at Chalmers University of Technology in Sweden they

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<v Speaker 2>proposed a completely different approach back in late twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>They did, Yeah, it's a fascinating pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of building a bigger, colder shield around the fragile parts,

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<v Speaker 2>they realized we could fundamentally redesign the atoms themselves by

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<v Speaker 2>making them.

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<v Speaker 3>Giant, which sounds like science fiction, I know, But the

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<v Speaker 3>problem they were trying to solve is honestly the single

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<v Speaker 3>biggest roadblock in modern fisths decoherence, right exactly, decoherence in

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<v Speaker 3>the quantum realm. That is the ultimate enemy. And to

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<v Speaker 3>really grasp why this new Chalmers architecture is such a

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<v Speaker 3>radical shift, kind of have to look at why these

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<v Speaker 3>systems are so painfully fragile in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's break that down. Because a normal computer bit

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<v Speaker 2>is simple, right, It's like a coin sitting on a table.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either heads or its tails, a one.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a zero, right, very binary, very stable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it takes a lot of force to physically

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<v Speaker 2>flip that coin over, which is why your laptop doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>crash every time someone turns on a light switch. But

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<v Speaker 2>the fundamental building block of a quantum computer, equibit, operates

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<v Speaker 2>entirely differently. It relies on a state called superposition.

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<v Speaker 3>So if a normal bit is a coin sitting flat

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<v Speaker 3>on a table, a quibit is a coin spinning rapidly

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<v Speaker 3>in the air, just a blur exactly while it's spinning.

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<v Speaker 3>It isn't strictly heads or tails. It exists as this

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<v Speaker 3>blur of both probabilities simultaneously, and this superposition is what

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<v Speaker 3>allows a quantum computer to process multiple possibilities at the

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<v Speaker 3>exact same time rather than sequentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. And then there's the other crucial element, which is entanglement.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. You can link two or more of these spinning

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<v Speaker 3>coins together so deeply that if you interact with one,

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<v Speaker 3>the others instantly react.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter how far apart they are, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Einstein famously called it scooky action at a distance. It

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<v Speaker 3>is the absolute foundation of complex parallel quantum math.

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<v Speaker 2>But keeping a coin spinning perfectly in the air requires

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<v Speaker 2>well absolute stillness, perpet isolation, yes, any environmental noise like heat,

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<v Speaker 2>which is really just the vibration of atoms where electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 2>static or that stray Photona mentioned. It acts like a

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<v Speaker 2>hand slapping the spinning coin down onto the table.

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<v Speaker 3>It forces the quibut to pick heads or tails.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the superposition collapses, the entanglement breaks, and the calculation

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<v Speaker 2>is completely ruined. That's decoherence.

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<v Speaker 3>And the classical approach to stopping decoherence is well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>essentially trying to isolate the system from the entire universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Those massive refrigerators.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we cool the processors to it near absolute zero,

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<v Speaker 3>and we also use incredibly heavy error correcting codes.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that actually mean in practice?

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<v Speaker 3>It means building hundreds of physical backup quibots just to

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<v Speaker 3>keep one single working quibot stable. It's incredibly inefficient.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me think of imagine building a delicate house

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<v Speaker 2>of cards in the middle of a windstorm.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>The traditional engineering solution has basically been to try and

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<v Speaker 2>build a billion dollar, perfectly sealed, climate controlled dome over the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cards, right, which works for a handful of cards. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>But if you want to scale up to millions of

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<v Speaker 3>quibots to build a truly powerful supercomputer.

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<v Speaker 2>The hardware overhead becomes impossible. The energy required to power

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<v Speaker 2>millions of domes, it's just astronomical, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Chalmers team shifted the entire paradigm. They asked

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<v Speaker 3>a different question.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of building a better dome, what if we fundamentally

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<v Speaker 2>redesign the cards so they can't be blown over?

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, they asked, what if we design an entirely new

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<v Speaker 3>kind of instrument, one that uses its own acoustics to

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<v Speaker 3>cancel out the noise. And their starting point for this

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<v Speaker 3>was artificial quantum emitters.

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<v Speaker 2>Which scientists have been studying for over a decade now, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while. We should probably clarify when we say

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<v Speaker 2>atom in this context. We aren't talking about something you'd

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<v Speaker 2>find naturally on the periodic table.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, definitely not. These are manufactured components. In practical terms,

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<v Speaker 3>they are often tiny superconducting circuits engineered on a chip

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<v Speaker 3>to behave identically to an atom.

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<v Speaker 2>So they aren't real atoms, but they act like them, right, They.

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<v Speaker 3>Have discrete energy levels. They absorb and emit microwave photons,

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<v Speaker 3>just like a natural atom absorbs light and they obey

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<v Speaker 3>all the bizarre rules of quantum mechanics. Okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>But a natural atom is incredibly small. When it interacts

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<v Speaker 3>with the light or sound in its environment, it acts

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<v Speaker 3>like a tiny microphone picking up audio at one single

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so it's very localized exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>But a giant atom connects to its environment in a

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<v Speaker 3>completely different way. It is engineered to couple to a waveguide.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is basically a channel carrying microwavelight.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yes, exactly, But it couples to that waveguide at

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<v Speaker 3>multiple spatially separated points. Wow, okay, And because it spans

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<v Speaker 3>across these multiple connection points, the artificial atom can be

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<v Speaker 3>giant relative to the wavelength of the light it interacts with.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking up to millimeters in size.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, millimeters. So you could literally hold a single quantum

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<v Speaker 2>component in your hand and see it with your naked eye.

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<v Speaker 3>You could, which completely defies our everyday intuition about quantum mechanics.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's supposed to be invisible.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, And those multiple connection points, they're the secret to

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<v Speaker 3>its stability. In physics, we call the resulting effect self interference.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, self interference. So Keeping with our acoustic analogy, imagine

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<v Speaker 2>you're yelling into a canyon, but instead of the sound

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<v Speaker 2>just drifting away, the canyon is design so the echo

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<v Speaker 2>bounces back perfectly right, because.

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<v Speaker 3>The giant atom interacts with the wave guide at multiple

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<v Speaker 3>separated points. The quantum wave it emits at the first point,

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<v Speaker 3>travels down the line and actually interacts with the atom

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<v Speaker 3>itself again at the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Point, So it literally hears its own echo before it

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<v Speaker 2>finishes speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>It does, and that echo isn't just a quirky acoustic trick.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a profound protective mechanism. How So, by engineering the

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<v Speaker 3>exact spacing of those connection points, physicists can ensure the

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<v Speaker 3>returning wave creates destructive interference. It acts as a shield.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, So it actively suppresses the rate at which

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<v Speaker 2>the atom decays.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, It traps the fragile quantum information inside, protecting it

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<v Speaker 3>from the chaotic thermal noise outside. In technical terms, this

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<v Speaker 3>creates non Markovian dynamics.

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<v Speaker 2>Non Markovian which simply means the system has a memory, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly. The standard atom is entirely stuck in the

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<v Speaker 3>present moment. It reacts blindly to whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Hits it, but a giant atom because of this continuous

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<v Speaker 2>loop of self interference. It's constantly influenced by its own

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<v Speaker 2>past emissions.

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<v Speaker 3>It uses its own history as a stabilizing anchor.

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<v Speaker 2>That is incredible. Okay, so the giant atom gives us

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<v Speaker 2>built in resistance to environmental noise. But a single stable

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<v Speaker 2>atom is still just a calculator.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's not a supercomputer.

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<v Speaker 2>To perform the complex math that quantum computing promises, you

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<v Speaker 2>need thousands or millions of these units working together seamlessly,

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<v Speaker 2>and controlling millions of giant atoms presents an entirely new

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<v Speaker 2>logistical nightmare.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely, Imagine trying to conduct an orchestra of a

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<v Speaker 3>million musicians, but instead of waving a baton, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to write a separate, highly complex set of individual instructions

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<v Speaker 3>for every single person, for every single note they play.

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<v Speaker 2>The sheer volume of wiring, the crosstalk between the cables,

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<v Speaker 2>the interference, it just becomes an unmanageable mess, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Brings us to the second innovation required for this architecture,

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<v Speaker 3>the super.

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<v Speaker 2>Anim the super adom. What exactly is.

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<v Speaker 3>That superatum is a collective quantum system. You take multiple atoms,

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<v Speaker 3>they're natural or artificial, and you entangle them internally so

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<v Speaker 3>intensely that they completely lose their individual identities.

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<v Speaker 2>WHOA, so they just merge.

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<v Speaker 3>They merge, they become a single, larger super entity sharing

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<v Speaker 3>the exact same quantum states.

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<v Speaker 2>So our orchestra section isn't fifty individual violins anymore. They're

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<v Speaker 2>so perfectly linked that they function as one giant, unified

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<v Speaker 2>instrument exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And when an external force interacts with them, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>hit violin A or violin B. It interacts with the

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<v Speaker 3>entire collective at once.

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<v Speaker 2>I see.

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<v Speaker 3>So you can interest the whole group with a single command,

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<v Speaker 3>which drastically simplifies the control systems needed to operate the computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have two incredibly powerful concepts here. The

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<v Speaker 2>giant atom provides the acoustic shield, the self interference that

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<v Speaker 2>protects against noise, and the super atom provides the simplicity

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<v Speaker 2>allowing us to control a complex group as a single entity.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the obvious yet incredibly difficult next step is

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<v Speaker 3>what happens when you fuse them together.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the breakthrough from late twenty twenty five published

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<v Speaker 2>in Physical Reviewer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the one led by a team including leydu jin Wang,

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<v Speaker 3>Anton Friskcocum, and Janine Splitstozer. They mapped out the mathematics

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<v Speaker 3>to assemble the hybrid giant superatom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, hold on, I'm struggling with the logic here.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we just established that quibits are unbelievably delicate, right

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<v Speaker 2>like house of cards. Yes, and now the proposal is

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<v Speaker 2>to take a bunch of them, entangle them into this

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<v Speaker 2>massive superatom, and then poke more holes in the system

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<v Speaker 2>to connect them to the environment in multiple separate places

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<v Speaker 2>to make them giants.

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<v Speaker 3>I see where you're going with this.

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<v Speaker 2>But doesn't adding all that internal complexity and exposing the

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<v Speaker 2>system to the environment in more places just invite more noise.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like building a submarine and then drilling extra

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<v Speaker 2>holes in the hall to make it safer.

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<v Speaker 3>It does sound like a paradox, but that is the

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<v Speaker 3>exact problem that Cholmer's team had to solve, and they

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<v Speaker 3>did it through the mathematics of something called dressed interference.

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<v Speaker 2>Dressed interference.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you strongly couple atoms together to form a superatom,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't just sit next to each other. Their individual

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<v Speaker 3>energy levels shift and merge. They become dressed states. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>The physical connection forces them to vibrate together exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It creates an entirely new blended frequency.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the complex internal entanglement actually creates a highly

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<v Speaker 3>And that custom frequency is the key. Remember the self

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<v Speaker 3>interference of the giant atom the protective echo in a

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<v Speaker 3>giant superatom. That echo isn't just bouncing off a single

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<v Speaker 3>is that this internal complexity is actually mathematically perfect. By

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<v Speaker 2>So the complexity of the superatom essentially fine tunes the

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<v Speaker 3>It functions almost exactly like active noise canceling headphones, but

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<v Speaker 2>Because noise canceling headphones don't just block sound, they listen

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<v Speaker 3>The giant super atom uses its dressed interference to provide

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<v Speaker 3>the exact mathematical degrees of freedom needed to cancel out

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<v Speaker 3>environmental static. This allows the system to perform what the

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<v Speaker 3>researchers call decoherence free transfers of entangled.

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<v Speaker 2>States ecoherence free. That's huge. That is the defining transition

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<v Speaker 2>point for this technology, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>It really is. We aren't just trying to cram more

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<v Speaker 3>they survive. We are engineering a smart physics based stability

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<v Speaker 3>directly into the foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Which means this isn't just abstract whiteboard math. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're waiting for the day when quantum computing actually

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<v Speaker 2>models a new life saving drug or protects your personal

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it outlines several massive practical advantages for engineers trying

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<v Speaker 2>Machines, decoherence suppression being the first one. Obviously, naturally, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Self interference provides a literal form of quantum memory, protecting

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<v Speaker 2>So we might still need refrigeration, but the hardware inside

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<v Speaker 2>won't be so prone to catastrophic crashes every time a

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and this inherent protection leads directly into a massive

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<v Speaker 3>makes it significantly more efficient to generate, transfer and maintain entanglement.

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<v Speaker 2>Because instead of painfully trying to force isolated, fragile quibbits

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<v Speaker 2>manages entanglement collectively and robustly.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. And another major benefit is that the physical footprint

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<v Speaker 3>of the processor shrinks dramatically. Leydu, one of the lead researchers,

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out how crucial this is.

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<v Speaker 2>How much does it shrink well?

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<v Speaker 3>A giant super atom allows quantum information from multiple quibbuts

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<v Speaker 3>to be stored and controlled within one unit. This completely

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<v Speaker 3>bypasses the need for the dense, incredibly complex surrounding circuitry

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<v Speaker 2>Oh right, because you no longer need a unique, perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, the wiring gets simpler, and the whole system becomes

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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't just improve what we already know how

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<v Speaker 2>looking at Janine Splittstos's work on the team and they

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<v Speaker 2>realize the architecture allows for something called state selective chiral emission.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, state selective chiral emission. It sounds complicated, but chiral

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<v Speaker 3>emission simply means the giant super atom can choose a

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<v Speaker 3>the right, and state selective means it makes that directional

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<v Speaker 2>That's like a built in traffic cop for quantum information.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is crucial because if we are going to build

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<v Speaker 3>And the giant superadom provides that routing mechanism. Naturally, we

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<v Speaker 3>to direct the traffic. The emitter itself acts as the switch.

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<v Speaker 2>That's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>Anton Friskoccum, another key researcher noted that because the system

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<v Speaker 2>It's just wild to think about. The theoretical heavy lifting

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<v Speaker 2>is basically complete. The math works, and because giant atoms

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<v Speaker 2>have already been success fully demonstrated in labs using these

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<v Speaker 2>superconducting circuits, the pathway to physically building a giant super

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<v Speaker 3>We are definitely moving from physics to engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>We are finally leaving behind the era of building massive,

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<v Speaker 2>impossible domes to protect fragile spinning cards. By leaning into

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<v Speaker 2>the strangest parts of quantum mechanics, using non local coupling,

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<v Speaker 2>memory effects and dressed interference, we are literally learning to

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<v Speaker 3>Is a profoundly elegant, fault tolerant solution. We are forcing

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<v Speaker 3>the system to actively protect itself It.

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<v Speaker 2>Completely changes the timeline for when this technology will actually

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<v Speaker 2>arrive in our everyday lives. But it also leaves us

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<v Speaker 2>with a truly bizarre philosophical reality to consider. Also, well,

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<v Speaker 2>think about it. For a century, we've been taught that

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<v Speaker 2>the spooky rules of quantum mechanics, like superposition, entanglement, atoms

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<v Speaker 2>being in two places at once. All that was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to only apply to the invisible subatomic.

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<v Speaker 3>World, right the microscopic realm.

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<v Speaker 2>The quantum realm was supposed to to be completely disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>from our everyday classical reality. But if engineers are successfully

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<v Speaker 2>millimeters wide, that you can hold in your hand and

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<v Speaker 2>look at without a microscope, and that dynamically adapt based

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<v Speaker 2>on a memory of their past interactions, it blurs the

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<v Speaker 2>line exactly where exactly does the weird invisible quantum world

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<v Speaker 2>end and our everyday classical reality begin. If we can

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<v Speaker 2>literally see a quantum component functioning on a desk in

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<v Speaker 2>front of us, maybe the invisible world is finally bleeding

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