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Speaker 1: You am now listening to soft core history. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Welcome back to sophomore History. I'm your host for the week.

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Dam Rochester joined us always by Rob Fox.

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Speaker 2: Howdy Howdy, got my big cuppa tequila and sparkling water,

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Big Ranch water cup.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to my house.

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Speaker 2: We're just hanging out. Your dog isn't activated.

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Speaker 1: No, I actually give him some chill pills. Oh did

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you literal chill pill.

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Speaker 2: Like CBD or some shit or actual like Doggie's annex.

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Speaker 1: I think it's ash iguana. Okay, whatever that is.

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Speaker 2: It's just cleaning his brain. Man, he went down to

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Peru and just like needed a reset. Exactly sees the

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world totally differently.

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Speaker 1: It killed his ego.

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Speaker 2: He does look like his ego is dead. Looks like

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he's say, looks like a lot of things breathing. But

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but yeah, Chase Martin in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Our producer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our hype dog.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the YouTube. Welcome to the new set.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the YouTubers haven't seen it yet. This is our

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new and improved.

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Speaker 1: I will look for you. I said it a sloucher

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like yourself.

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Speaker 2: The seating is just majestic. I'm just melting into this couch.

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This is exactly how I want to do a show

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m ultimate comfort. Yeah, I don't want to do like

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some fucking a little bit of cheer at it off

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it's aport. No, I want to fucking sit on a

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couch say things even less thoughtful than I already was,

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because the level of comfort corresponds to the thoughtlessness of

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my comments. This is perfect. Yeah, this is what I want.

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Speaker 1: It to be.

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Speaker 2: Because even at my house, you were too stiff kind

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of boy again, I'm just loosey, goosey. I mean, we

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used to record it your closet, in our in my closet,

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but that was no video, and then we would do

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video in like my open bedroom what used what would

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become my first child's bedroom.

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Speaker 1: I think there was like half a crib in there.

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Did you ever finish that build or did Rory just

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kind of roam.

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Speaker 2: We did sort of a dog in a box situation?

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Speaker 1: Was he more of a free range child?

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Speaker 2: He is fucking he is fucking now man, absolute. Just

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like we close the gate to the upstairs at night

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and him and Finn just rage. It just becomes a

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party on the second floor.

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Speaker 1: Now, those of you at home that have no idea

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about our actual positions in the workforce. Uh, this is

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now my full time job.

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Speaker 2: Softcore history is Dan's full time job. Where can you

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go to get you out of the breadline?

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Speaker 1: Of course, Patreon dot com slash software history means a

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lot to us now, more than it ever has.

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Speaker 2: Truly, I'm still employed. But yeah, it means a ton

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to me as well, because I would always first before ever,

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since we started doing this show, which was before I

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even had my current job, and we wanted this to

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be our full time jobs.

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Speaker 1: So but I figured I'd explain it to people who

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watch on YouTube and I like this, what is going on?

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Wildly different the set here too. We're constantly changing, constantly

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fixing things. We got a couple of lights on the way.

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They'll be here like sometime in the week. Look a

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little better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, drop a comment on the YouTube if you thought

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the lighting was fucked up, and Dan confirmed it for you.

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Speaker 1: We had to wait for the sun to go down

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because we did. My curtain just doesn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: It's more just that your window faces directly west.

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Speaker 1: It's a French door.

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Speaker 2: To what to nothing?

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Speaker 1: I know. That was kind of the only drawback of

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this place. I like it a lot, but there's no deck.

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You just open the French door. You overlook the.

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Speaker 2: Pool like you're the very end of your room is

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the deck essentially, even indoor deck.

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Speaker 1: It's so much room for activities. It's just one giant

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open space. There's really a glorified studio apartment.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what everyone wanted when this was built.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I love.

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Speaker 2: An open concept floor plan. No, give me rooms. Give

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me a house built one hundred and thirty years ago.

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Room room, room, room, room, room. Nothing is open. You

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can get lost in it. It's amaze. No one can

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find you for days. That's like the house I grew

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up in. Room room, room, room, room, room. I hate

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this open concept shit because here's the thing. The space

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looks big, but then you never get away from anyone

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because you're all technically in the same fucking room constantly.

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Speaker 1: Are you projecting right now?

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Speaker 2: Now? I'm not projecting. I'm telling you the story of

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my life.

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Speaker 1: You missed out on the Grandex Paint Factory. What a

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wild time that was?

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Speaker 2: I did, Yeah, and that was after my time, when

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they really doubled down on They rented it though, didn't

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even buy it.

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Speaker 1: They rented it for like three hundred grand a year,

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and that's why we don't work there anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, why anyone doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's work there, it doesn't exist. But yeah, we're actually

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gonna throw ups some old stuff that we did too

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on the Patreon.

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Speaker 2: For a high for a higher class of person. Yeah, literally,

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it'll be a higher paint here.

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Speaker 1: We're thinking pre show, just like how we're gonna incentivize

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people to pay more than five dollars for our show.

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And I think we came up with some solid ideas.

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So people have been rallying. I really appreciate you guys.

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I love you guys. Thank you for all your support. Yeah,

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but the best way you can. You know, people keep

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asking how can I how can I help? Just sign

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up for the Patreon's super duper.

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Speaker 2: There's a ton of extra content. That's where all of

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the I mean, there's double the content in a normal

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week that there is on the main feed. That's where

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all of our other extra stuff goes, voicemail episodes.

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Speaker 1: And legit in three years of just content that it's evergreen.

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Don't have jokes that you are timely?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're not talking about the president really or

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I mean you know, it's impossible to be totally untopical.

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But yeah, but that's where all your content is, game shows, voicemails.

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If you like that sketch that Dan posted a week

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or two ago, we had a bunch of sketches, a

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bunch of that shit on there too, and there'll be

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more coming.

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Speaker 1: If you just want the sketches, you can buy those

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as a package.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's seven dollars for like an audio book basically,

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but they.

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Speaker 1: Also I know that it might be confusing because when

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you sign up they are included, but you can it

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says seven dollars. Still you don't have to pay for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's if you didn't get a membership,

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you can just buy it as a one time thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But today, let's get to the topic.

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Speaker 2: Let's go on.

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Speaker 1: October fifth, nineteen seventeen, m it J. Scott, a longtime

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secretary to Booker T. Washington, was appointed a special assistant

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to the Secretary of War Newton D. Baker.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's an important job at the time, considering we

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are when in.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen seventeen October.

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Speaker 2: So were we in?

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Speaker 1: Are we in?

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Speaker 2: At that point?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, we're talking about a specific group of men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw the title. Because you have

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to use my laptop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I no longer have a laptop, guys, how to

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give that back? Turned in my please my gun and badge.

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Please subscribe to The Patriot. I have a desktop, so

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I'll be able to edit pretty you know, unfazed. But

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now I get to use Rob's little lambie.

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Speaker 2: Dan has to masturbate in his window.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he's my phone. Dude, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I know.

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Speaker 1: Also it's Texas. I can't even get pornhub.

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Speaker 2: No, there is no porno. I think it'd just be

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fun if you masturbated like a thirteen year old.

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Speaker 1: I've also been cutting cost, getting rid of subscriptions. VPN

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had to go. Government will now on the track quick?

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Yeah yeah. VPM was like the first to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that is a that's a luxury item.

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Speaker 1: Disney plus you're gone, ESPN plus you're gone. Oh no,

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how are you gonna watch our cut YouTube TV too?

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How are you gonna watch any college football? Just don't

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worry about it, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Theft theft okay, crack

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streams theft perfect if they want to sponsor the show.

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Speaker 2: I was because I was gonna be like, dude, maybe

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I'll come over here and watch some college football with you.

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But that's off the table. Now I'll be coming to

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your house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, clearly you're moving. You gonna be my neighbors soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just scoot on over come watch the game.

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You and Rory will watch the games.

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Speaker 1: Father, Cuck, you.

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Speaker 2: Spend valuable time with. Please do please try raise them? Right,

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please try? You think it's you think it's easy.

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Speaker 1: You know, they say the problem with a lot of

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society today is families without fathers. Yeah, but what about

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families with two fathers.

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Speaker 2: That's a solution is more dads.

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Speaker 1: But is it kind of like if you have two quarterbacks,

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you have none, if you have two dads, you have none.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't know. I think the doubling works.

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I think it's irresponsible for any any married man too.

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I guess basically not have a bowl who helps raise

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the children along with uh split their wife. Hm, you're

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just not a selfless lover. You're not an American, not

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a good American because you're not raising a family right. Uh.

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Probably not a good Christian either for that matter. Yeah,

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you just it needs to be a two man household.

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Speaker 1: Scott was the serve as an advisor for any situations

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that involved Black Americans and the role they would play in.

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Speaker 2: War, which is which is fuck you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, much of Black America at that time we're eager

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to serve their country, but often turned away from military service.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, black dudes from this, I can only speak in

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the Civil War on, probably were like this beforehand as well,

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but from the Civil War on in particular, they were like,

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we want some, yea, we would like some just to

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kind of prove themselves. Yes, give us many of some.

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wars we fought from the Civil War on, as well

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as in the Indian Wars. The Buffalo soldiers, I don't

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I'm sure they were great. In the Spanish American War,

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I don't know if the three.

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Speaker 1: Months did the Spanish aca? How good could you be?

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Speaker 2: In the Spanish Everyone was a cup of coffee in

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the Spanish American War.

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Speaker 1: This was until HUGHS. Johnson wrote up the Selective Service

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Act of nineteen seventeen, which required all men from the

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ages of twenty one to thirty to register for the draft,

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including black men. They would join the fifteenth Infantry of

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the New York National Guard, which ironically helped suppress the

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eighteen sixty three draft riots. You'll remember those when the

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Irish just started burning down a black town. Yeah, although

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I don't or a black part of town.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's ironic though, because those guys killed

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the Irish who were killing black people.

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Speaker 1: It's fitting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes it is.

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Speaker 1: With about two thousand black and Puerto Rican troops enlisted

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space in New York for them, so they were shipped

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down south to Spartanburg, South Carolina, to Camp Wadsworth. Oh no,

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in October of nineteen seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, Jim Crow is so bad that it's not

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that they don't get served at restaurants, they just don't

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get served food. Like sorry, boys, even the army. Yeah black, don't.

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Speaker 1: To the They definitely were to heads soon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't matter if you were in a uniform

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Speaker 1: There were NonStop incidents where local Spartanburg businesses refused to

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sell goods. Black soldiers and members of the white twenty

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seventh Division often came to their defense and boycotted the

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shop owners and solidarity.

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Speaker 2: Good for them with it was the twenty seventh. Also

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from the North.

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Speaker 1: They're all they're all kind of shipped up from New York,

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all New Yorkers. Yeah, fair enough. I imagine this is kind

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of the plot of Remember the Titans when they all

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go to summer camp and they all come together and

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Kumbaya start singing together, and then they come back to town.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think in the in the movie they

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go to Pennsylvania, right, because they go to Gettysburg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they well they jogged Gettysburg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think they're running like across state line.

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Speaker 2: See, so I was confused about that when I first

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saw the movie. I was like, what do you mean

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they jogged a Gettysburg.

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Speaker 1: I imagine the camp was in nearby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I was like, that's odd.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, Coach Boone is a menace.

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Speaker 2: Of absolutely Yeah, well, I mean other coaches do that.

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that they could have skated to Gettysburg from wherever they

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were again, yeah, but it's just one straight line instead

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of back and forth.

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Speaker 1: What's better. Remember the Titans are miracle. If you had

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to pick.

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Speaker 2: One, oh more height, probably remember the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Titans simply off the soundtrack the soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: But also, honestly, even though Denzel's like the main dude

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in it, it's the defensive coordinators. I don't want them

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to gain another yard? Yeah like that?

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Speaker 1: Not another yard? That's quite the ask. Yeah, are we

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count negative plays?

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Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, coach, is it a cumulative or what?

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Speaker 1: As long as it's total, that's fine. I get some sacks,

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I get some tackles for losses. But another yard that's

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I don't know if that's realistic.

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Speaker 2: Your coach, that's a lot. It would help if you

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ran the ball on offense board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's kill some clock, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you really, I'd beat if you're gonna throw on

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first and second out. I just don't know how this

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is feasible.

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Speaker 1: The Josh Hipel offense three and out offense was on

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the field for thirteen seconds.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, the defense is just like puking

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in the second quarter. Guy sucks.

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Speaker 1: It was just a beating getting out of the US altogether.

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When they shipped over to Europe, the Fifteenth faced several

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setbacks just getting out to open water, with three separate

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incidents that included a mechanical breakdown, an onboard fire, and

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a collision with other boats during a snowstorm.

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Speaker 2: Good Lord out of South Carolina, they could leave like

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Charleston Harbor.

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Speaker 1: Now they went back up and moved. Oh, they went

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to New York.

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Speaker 2: Way back up, Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: The damage was done to parts of the ship above water,

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so the fifteenth patched it up themselves and finally set sail.

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They arrived in France in December of nineteen seventeen, where

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they were immediately ordered to do all the grunt work,

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back breaking labor. Unsurprisingly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's literally like half

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of Glory. Like once they get deployed, they're just like,

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all right, boy, it's glad you troops are here.

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Speaker 1: Seen Glory since like high school, I need to go

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back another Denzel class.

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Speaker 2: That's a it's a great movie. Cut down trees. It's

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actually like, it's really fucked to me that Glory is

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probably the best Civil War movie you ever made. And

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it came out almost forty years ago. Like no one,

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I mean, one of the other contenders. It's really like,

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off the top of my head, it's pretty bleak. It's

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that in Gettysburg, which, yeah, it's fine, it's fine, But

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the fighting in Gettysburg is really mid Yeah, Like it's

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a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Like like when so we get shot, corny as hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the acting is impeccable. Like if you took

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Gettysburg and like cut out most of the battle scenes,

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it's a brilliant movie. But then a lot of times

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they get in the battle and it's.

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Speaker 1: Just like mah, yeah, we need to get on. Somebody

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make it a just world class civil war movie.

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Speaker 2: I think Antietam is the perfect setting, and I think

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someone needs to do that, goddamn it. Or Shiloh. Shiloh

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would be the other one. Those two battles, I think

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are two like perfect, perfect civil war films.

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Speaker 1: We keep throwing out the term civil war civil wards

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coming is coming. It already happened, and it's great content.

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So how have we not incredible? How have we not

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turned that into the best.

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Speaker 2: Civil war battle scene I've ever seen from that award

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winning film. Yeah, just make a goddamn civil war saving

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private ride. It's not Hard or a civil war band

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of brothers. It's not goddamn Hard.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're still gonna make our movie about Madame LaForce.

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Speaker 2: We will. Yeah, we do need to do that.

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Speaker 1: Just going full drag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just blowing a thousand dudes on a boat for

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no reason.

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Speaker 1: They were assigned to the US Army's Services of supply

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unloading ships, including outhouses. Shouts of the other dogs out

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there just losing their fucking minds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you understand. I know, Dan's apartment

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looks nice, but it's in a horrible part of the town,

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a lot of stray dogs. It's really like I locked

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my car and it didn't feel like enough.

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Speaker 1: This is, weirdly the only place in Austin where my

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truck has not been broken into yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, give it time. Give you just renewed your release.

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Speaker 1: Means I believe in the product, Rob. I could have

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packed up shop and went home to Pennsylvania. I was

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on the table.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: I'm like you know what, like, well, well, well, big

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big shop podcaster Danny Raggs, Bacon Dealko tail.

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Speaker 2: Between his legs, you want some pills?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would start dealing drugs. I feel like I

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would probably be just burn Thal and Wolf of Wall

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Street just lifting weights in my parents' driveway. Yeah, yelling mah,

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selling pills, selling drugs.

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Speaker 2: To high schoolers.

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Speaker 1: I gotta make a living somehow. Cost of living is

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gone this economy. Yeah. General John Jay Persian was an

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advocate for black soldiers, but with many of his superior

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saying it would be bad for his career if he

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tried to mix his troops together. Persian kept everything segregated

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and eventually loan the fifteenth to the French Armed Forces

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in April nineteen eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we basically jumped. So when we got to World

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War One, Pershing's one of the most underrated people in

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American history. Should probably do an episode on him, and

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I think actually he was with Teddy Roosevelt in the

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Spanish American War, served like adjacent to him or something

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like that.

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Speaker 1: He definitely does not get enough.

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Speaker 2: Love Blackjack Pershing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's as we talk about Pat and of

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course obviously Grant. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Pershing was the main the commanding general of World

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War One.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone knows that, but we just kind of

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like glance over it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, he is. He's a really interesting, dude.

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And when we got to Europe, essentially the British and

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French were like, oh, good American troops here, here, We're gonna

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plug you in where we need you, and Plushing was like,

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fucking suck my dick, dude, there, these are American troops.

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They will serve with each other. And then unless you're black, yeah,

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and then like enough racists were in the army, and

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Persia really wasn't.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't. He seemed to be, you know, for his

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time of progressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he did, I guess, cave to

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the segregation and was like, honestly to probably give the

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black troops some dignity, where like, you'll serve with the French,

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they'll be way less dickheads to you. And they were.

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The French held these guys, a lot of them in

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quite high esteem.

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Speaker 1: The fifteenth were all issued French weapons helmets, belts, and pouches,

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but remained in the American uniform.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fine. I guess I don't know that

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French weapons were bad in World War One. Really.

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Speaker 1: No, we used French planes.

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Speaker 2: We didn't have combat planes, we weren't actively in aerial

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combat at all. Up to that point it was invented.

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Aerial combat was invented by the Europeans, like literally, like

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full stop. So yeah, that surprised me that we just

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grab some French plants the way today half a NATO

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uses F twenty two's like a dumb down version of

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the F twenty two or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Then we sell a bunch of F sixteens.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, NATO. Every NATO country has like

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F Actually, I think Ukraine even has like F sixteens

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and shit like that. Yeah, so that's the same, it's

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the same situation. We didn't have the shit, so we

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just used the French as shit.

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Speaker 1: The French army had many colonial units with non white

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personnel from Senegal and Morocco, and with the manpower shortage,

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they were happy with any warm body they could get

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to throw at the Germans. Oh yeah, they're fucking.

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Speaker 2: Please, God give me something. It is funny too that

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the British and French just like strip mind to their

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colonies for soldiers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, come on, you co, you're covered. The

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French Army assigned the regiment to Outpost twenty on the

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edge of the Oregon Forest in the Champagne region of France.

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Argonne the argonne, How did I pronounce it?

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Speaker 2: Orgon?

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Speaker 1: I said, argon, I didn't say it. Oregon certainly didn't

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say Oregon pooled the tape. On the night of May fourteenth,

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my birthday, nineteen eighteen, they came under attacked by a

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German raiding party of a few dozen. Private Henry Johnson,

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a former rail station porter from Albany, New York, and

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Private Neden Roberts heard the snip of barbed wire being cut.

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Johnson fired an illumination rocket into the sky, then ducked

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as German grenades flew toward him. The grenades exploded behind

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him and shrapnel hit his left leg. Roberts got hit

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in the head and the two started throwing grenades back.

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The German forces rushed into the Americans dugout. Johnson shot

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one German in the chest point blank, then swung his

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rifle to club another with depleted ammunition. Johnson accidentally jammed

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his French gun, putting in an American magazine and had

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to engage the enemy using grenades, the butt of his rifle,

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and eventually a bolo knife. Hell Yeah. Two enemy soldiers

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tried to haul Roberts away after he was knocked unconscious,

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and Johnson drove his nine inch knife into one of their.

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Speaker 2: Skulls through the helmet. I guess either way where he

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knocked it off, and yeah, just not easy. A pop

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and stab is still is incredibly impressive. I liked it.

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It was like a snowball fight with grenades too.

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Speaker 1: Another German shot Johnson in the shoulder and thigh. Johnson

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then went full perserker mode and lunched with his knife

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and slashed that man down as well. The rest of

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the German soldiers just up and left and ran for

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the hills.

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Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, fuck this.

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Speaker 1: Like this, dude, I'm not fucking with him. He might

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be invincible. Yeah, I've never seen anything like this.

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Speaker 2: He's doing work with a knife that I cannot fathom.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it must have been how white athletes felt when

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they saw the black men finally compete in sports, like.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Like wait a minute, meanwhile, stronger, faster,

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while Sergeant York's running like a fucking six two forty

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at a machine gun, nest just start clocking them. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Reviewing the carnage the next day, a US Army captain

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estimated that Johnson had killed four of the attack in

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twenty four German soldiers. He's just like.

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Speaker 2: He's just standing there, like puking in between counting. He's like,

472
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,960
oh fuck, none of them are connected to each other.

473
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Just count the arms and legs and we're gonna we're

474
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gonna split.

475
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Speaker 1: The diff American accounts of their heroics reached home within days.

476
00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:02,119
The New York World's lead headline on May twentieth, nineteen

477
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,000
eighteen was two New York Negroes foil German assault.

478
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,599
Speaker 2: Two homegrown boys, black boys, but boys. Nonetheless.

479
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: The New York Sun headline the next day was Persian

480
00:23:13,279 --> 00:23:14,960
Priz's Brave Negroes.

481
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:17,559
Speaker 2: Look negro is he used to just be a normal

482
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:18,920
word for black guy.

483
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: It used to be a baseball league.

484
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: Also that, Yeah, I always wonder I want to just

485
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,559
be in like the group, a group of like the

486
00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:31,720
most aggressively progressive people and be like, oh yeah, I

487
00:23:31,759 --> 00:23:34,440
went to the Negro League Baseball Museum and it was

488
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,000
it was wonderful and just you know, like the type

489
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:39,279
of people who don't even know what sports are. Yeah,

490
00:23:39,279 --> 00:23:42,160
so they're just likeugh, like just watch them.

491
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,799
Speaker 1: There's that crowd that is like sneakerheads really into just

492
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,519
underground hip hop and they have to like prove themselves

493
00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,559
as white men. Yeah, just like how in the know

494
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,720
they are on black culture. That's horrible.

495
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Speaker 2: It's terrible, sounds exhausting. Just exist, for the love of God.

496
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,319
Speaker 1: It's just la yeah.

497
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: Ugh.

498
00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:08,599
Speaker 1: Any production in Los Angeles, especially on the internet.

499
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,519
Speaker 2: I'd be like, what are you into? Like, I don't know, man,

500
00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:11,440
we're in New York too.

501
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: If you work for like it's all the white people

502
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,599
that work for Complex.

503
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: Or oh yeah, I'm sure that's an insufferable group of people.

504
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,200
You just like walk in with like new sneak Like, yeah,

505
00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,039
any sneakerhead, I'm like, if that's what you're into, that's fine.

506
00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:27,279
But it's like cars where I'm just like, yeah, I

507
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,640
don't talk to me about it. I don't know, and

508
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,519
I don't even care. I have a thing that moves.

509
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,079
Speaker 1: I feel like every white dude at The Ringer is

510
00:24:35,319 --> 00:24:35,960
sort of like that.

511
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, I still read The Ringer because there's

512
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,920
only five things on the Internet to read, but it

513
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,119
does that vibe the way they talk about the NBA,

514
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:48,799
and it's all just like the geekiest white dudes who

515
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,200
are like, you don't know Ball, if you think I'm

516
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,720
just it takes a lot to not smash my laptop

517
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,440
reading a Ringer NBA article.

518
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,839
Speaker 1: And with each passing day that I can't lift and

519
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,799
I start to develop man tits, I feel like that

520
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,160
might be my future. Unfortunately, I need to fix my shoulders.

521
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: What you squeaking, you don't know? Ball into a podcast.

522
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: Mike, My voice will get higher and higher as my

523
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,680
testosterone lowers.

524
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: You have to get on tee.

525
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: I'll get surgery, probably in like Panama or something. Yeah,

526
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,160
some stems. It's a vacation. You're right, you have a blast.

527
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,599
These stories made Johnson and Roberts two of the best

528
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,240
known American soldiers in World War One. Johnson was nicknamed

529
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,279
Black Death, which that goes yeah, that goes hard.

530
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:37,039
Speaker 2: That's that is. I don't even though this person was

531
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,680
probably fake, it's very like the Ghost of Kiev.

532
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: He's not fake. Ghost isn't no Johnson. Johnson's a real dude.

533
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,799
Speaker 2: I know John's saying the Ghost of Kiev is yeah, yeah, but.

534
00:25:49,319 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: But Black Death is not your comparing it to a

535
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,240
fictional character.

536
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: But I'm saying the names go hard. I guess Ghost

537
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,480
of Kiev Ghost.

538
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,079
Speaker 1: It just kind of seems like you're trying to tarnish

539
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,599
this man's remation's propaganda.

540
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: I've ever heard my life Ghost of Kiev. Yeah, I

541
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:03,039
know this guy's real.

542
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: This guy's real, because the White press is not going

543
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,079
to like hype up a black soldier undeservingly certainly not there.

544
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,799
Speaker 2: At no point have I debated that this man existed

545
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,279
or not. I know he exists. He's in my own

546
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,720
doc you actually you cucked me on this. He was

547
00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:22,440
in my own dock of like, oh people, le should

548
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,480
maybe do something about you beat me too. It took

549
00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:26,000
you took it.

550
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:29,839
Speaker 1: If you wanted to do it, you would have done it.

551
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,640
I agree.

552
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 2: I agree.

553
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,599
Speaker 1: If you created Facebook, you would have created it. Also,

554
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,319
the three hundred and sixty ninth, which is what they

555
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,839
get converted to in the French Armed Forces, the fifteenth

556
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:43,000
does uh? They start to pick up a bit of

557
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,640
a reputation.

558
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,279
Speaker 2: Is this the Harlem hell Fighters.

559
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: They were called the Black Rattlers okay first, okay, okay, okay,

560
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,519
as a nod to the Rattlesnake insignia. The French referred

561
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:57,880
to them as the Bronze Men, based off appearance and

562
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,039
the Germans, of course, spoke of them as hell Fighters.

563
00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:04,400
There you go, and that, of course is what's stuck.

564
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:09,000
These men would become known forever as the Harlem hell Fighters.

565
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,839
Speaker 2: Let's fucking go. Wait what was it's actually? Are there

566
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,599
are there rattlesnakes anywhere near New York?

567
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: I think it's just like a uh, don't tread on

568
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,559
the snake.

569
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,799
Speaker 2: Type of Okay, Okay, that makes more sense. Yeah, because

570
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,279
that is like an odd It's on their flag, you

571
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:28,279
know what I mean. It's like, yeah, we're the It's

572
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:32,920
like your unit from Vermont with a cactus on your Yeah.

573
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,680
Why what does this have to do with you at all?

574
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: At the front on July fifteenth, the hell Fighters withstood

575
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:43,440
heavy bombardment as Germans launched the second Battle of the

576
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,039
marn It's final offensive of the war. The health Fighters

577
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,960
took part in the French counter attack, losing fourteen members

578
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:54,799
of the regiment, with fifty one more sustaining injury. As

579
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,160
part of the Meuse Argonne offensive, in which more than

580
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,640
a million American and French troops attacked the German lines,

581
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,640
the Harlem hell Fighters suffered some of the worst casualties

582
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,039
by an American regiment in the war.

583
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,799
Speaker 2: Well, yolo giveth and yolo take it away, you know

584
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,039
what I mean, Like when you go hard into something. Also,

585
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
it's just like I actually do wonder because they're still

586
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:19,400
under French command.

587
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: Right, mm hmm.

588
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the French lost a lot of people in

589
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,519
World War One doing some stupid shit.

590
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna plame this on the front.

591
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:31,319
Speaker 2: It feels like the French did not help them out tactically,

592
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,359
like they can roll. They fucking they'll fuck anybody up.

593
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,079
But at the end of the day, if you put

594
00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:40,240
them in a bad situation, no matter how how hard

595
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,559
they fight, they're gonna take a lot of bullets. If

596
00:28:42,599 --> 00:28:46,200
you're just like yeah, charge.

597
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: One hundred and forty four killed, almost one thousand wounded.

598
00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,759
They also helped capture the town of Sachal.

599
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: Who knows who cares.

600
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:59,079
Speaker 1: Under white officer George S. Rob but at a costly

601
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,680
eight hundred one then dead or just casually dead. Geez.

602
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,039
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, World War One doesn't get enough. Honestly,

603
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000
I feel like the reason a huge reason more people

604
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,640
died in World War Two were like non combat related things.

605
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,319
I would actually love to run the numbers on, like

606
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,880
just pure combat deaths in World War One vers World

607
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200
War Two, because I bet it's pretty comparable if I like,

608
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:26,599
if I had to guess, but like you know, there's

609
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,359
no major bombing campaigns in World War One. There's way

610
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,720
less like famine and starvation.

611
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,359
Speaker 1: And like every death in World War One though, was

612
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,519
just you're in the wrong spot the wrong time for artillery.

613
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I assume artillery did the heavy lifting on bodies,

614
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:46,920
although dude, like like there's just so many stories of

615
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,039
I mean machine guns just like melting and like just

616
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,240
getting too hot because they're just lighting people up. So

617
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:57,839
I mean every machine gun does that. You gotta fucking

618
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,240
like on like MG forty two, you gotta change up barrels.

619
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,519
Think you can change up barrels on sixties. But a

620
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,480
gun person can tell me that. Anyway, though, the amount

621
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,599
of dudes who just got it because they were like,

622
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,240
I don't know what to do. Let's just charge I gut,

623
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:12,680
let's we got to run out of them. There's no

624
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,880
one knows we can fucking do.

625
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: George S. Roberts received the Medal of Honor for his

626
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:18,680
actions that the white commander.

627
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, all these guys still had white commanders.

628
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: He also took over because one of their commanders died.

629
00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Okay, so with he and nice Get stepped up.

630
00:30:27,839 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: He seemed fine. Okay. Though the Black troops never received

631
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,039
American medals, the French were more than happy to pick

632
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:34,640
up the slack.

633
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the French gave him a million.

634
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: Awards participation trophies.

635
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: I feel like a participation. I feel like you should

636
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:49,799
probably in fact, you do literally get like small medals

637
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:55,599
for literally participating in war, like both my grandfathers had

638
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,839
for the theaters they were in.

639
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like being a boy scout.

640
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a year they had like my help old

641
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,640
lady cross the street get that badge? Yeah, and I

642
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,559
think like Jack, for example, would you participate in the

643
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Pinewood Derby.

644
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: You get a badge?

645
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: Do you just for being there?

646
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I think just for being there?

647
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,079
Speaker 2: That's stupid.

648
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:13,839
Speaker 1: I agree.

649
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: I really don't want to do boy Scouts with my kids.

650
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,519
I really don't want to. I don't want to go

651
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:21,680
camping ever again in my life for.

652
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: The rest of your life. You've just crossed out the outdoors. Yeah, fully,

653
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
no no camping. What if your kids like to fish

654
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,160
or hunt? Where are they getting that from?

655
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: Not me? Are't you not me? Why do you think

656
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,000
we're moving back to the city. I got to kill

657
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,799
that baby in the cradle, all right. I don't want

658
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:43,599
them walking around in our neighborhood seeing kids on dirt

659
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,440
bikes and kids with fishing poles, and be like, I

660
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,079
want to do that.

661
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: No, you got to turn them into future Ringer employees.

662
00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:54,599
Yeah you don't know, Ball squeaky voice, yeah, balding at

663
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,720
like age twenty five.

664
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: There's a type of men I want to raise. It's

665
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,680
easy here, it'd.

666
00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:02,839
Speaker 1: Be a good fit for them, But I don't.

667
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't steal black language. Say it as whitely as

668
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:14,799
possible about what for in all intentsive purposes of black sport.

669
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,400
Be like, oh cool, look at me.

670
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: That's pretty susmam. I know I don't.

671
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know Ball.

672
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm a hooper.

673
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,359
Speaker 2: Yeah these are. Yeah, they're real hoopers. They got ups

674
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,519
like you wouldn't bully a fucking.

675
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,279
Speaker 1: Just just talk about yourself, man.

676
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: Uh just say we're just say normal words, you piece

677
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,319
of shit. Anyone who does that. I just it's an

678
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,400
immediate like god, damn it, fuck you. If I had

679
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,559
anything else to read.

680
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing out there, there's nothing to read except on

681
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:44,839
our Patreon.

682
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,759
Speaker 2: Picture's gonna be dropping a lot of written content, old

683
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:49,640
written content or not that we're not working that hard.

684
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,799
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean there's plenty of blogs you read already.

685
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably around fifty or something.

686
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a little damn rob archive.

687
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but those those blogs are evergreen because it's about history.

688
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:03,599
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy one black men receive the French

689
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,079
quadi gar for their actions at the set Child.

690
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: You know what that means. Can you translate quade gar

691
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,640
a cross of war?

692
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

693
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:15,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, or the it might mean war cross, might translate

694
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,759
more warross dope though, Yeah that's cool, but like literally

695
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,160
it's cross of war. I don't know if it would

696
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,640
the translation will be war cross.

697
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:26,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, Jesus should have been crucified on a war cross?

698
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,039
Speaker 2: What was Jesus the quada? I don't know what criminal

699
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:32,960
means in French?

700
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,319
Speaker 1: Real quick, let me remind you of This episode is

701
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:39,319
brought to you by Factor. Meals between busy schedules and

702
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,680
summer plans. Sometimes all I've got is a couple of minutes.

703
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,839
Got a little bit more than that right now, But

704
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:51,359
Factor meals incredibly helpful. I don't have to think it

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now back to the episode. The hell Fighter spent one

728
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,320
hundred and ninety one days in combat, more than any

729
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,760
other US regiment. They also had a unit band that

730
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,480
would play for the wounded and civilian audiences under James

731
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Reese Europe during their downtime to boost morale with it Blues,

732
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,760
allegedly introducing jazz music to the French and British.

733
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:54,599
Speaker 2: Oh I gon say, it couldn't just be some John Phillips,

734
00:35:54,639 --> 00:35:57,960
who's a bullshit. They had, They had a little spirit,

735
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:58,800
you know what I mean.

736
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:03,559
Speaker 1: On February You're seventeenth, nineteen nineteen, a massive crowd filled

737
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,679
Fifth Avenue for a victory parade honoring the Hell Fighters.

738
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,239
The band kicked off the procession with a French Martian

739
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,639
song and these soldiers marched in a French formation. Wow, dude,

740
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:18,519
going against your own country, okay in New York.

741
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: Why dude, just because they like barely give you any

742
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,360
rights and made you serve in another army, You're gonna

743
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,800
just like, so be a dick like.

744
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,599
Speaker 1: That, you had to like represent another nation.

745
00:36:26,679 --> 00:36:29,119
Speaker 2: It's pretty fucking shitty, and just go just do another

746
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:33,199
ringer callback that fucking hell Fighter's band laid down sick beats,

747
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,599
laid down the sickest beats. It went hard.

748
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: It's funny to see you try to like use young

749
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,000
lingo because you don't even know it. I don't know it,

750
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,519
which is good, and I don't want to even trying

751
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:49,239
to make fun of it. You can't because you are

752
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,320
just so out of the loop. You're a wash dad.

753
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: As it should be, As it fucking should be. You

754
00:36:57,039 --> 00:36:59,559
can't put those words in your mouth at a certain point,

755
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:06,079
you know what I mean? Like, no one finds that attractive. No,

756
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:10,199
not even the youngs. The youngs find it least attractive

757
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:10,639
of all.

758
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: The youngs find it repulsive. Johnson wrote in a convertible,

759
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,079
holding a bouquet of red and white lilies and bound

760
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:22,119
to the crowds Europe. Launched his Health Fighter Band on

761
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,800
tour of the Northeast and Midwest, but two months in,

762
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:29,880
after a concert in Boston, he was stabbed to death

763
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:35,559
by the band's deranged drummer. What yeah, poor guy survise

764
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,000
you know, the absolute hell on earth that is World

765
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:44,960
War One serves you know, the most days in combat

766
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:49,360
with a unit more than any other regiment in the US.

767
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety one days straight in.

768
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Combat and they were there late.

769
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: Has got to be pushing a record, right, Obviously, you're

770
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,239
almost anyone for some period of times been deployed for

771
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,159
more than one hundred and like one hundred and ninety

772
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:09,079
one days or what you know, like a year deployment

773
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:13,280
or whatever, but like in combat successively every so basically

774
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,079
just in a trench every day, taking shells every day. Right,

775
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,880
They're not necessarily in a gunfight every day, but like

776
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,599
you are on the front lines, a fucking German shell

777
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:25,199
might rip you in half at any moment and is

778
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,119
probably trying to every day.

779
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,159
Speaker 1: Then you're also playing music for everybody in eure Up.

780
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:32,840
You're having a good time. You get celebrated when you

781
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,519
get back home as a black man. You go on tour,

782
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,639
they're like, let the the health fighter band out and

783
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:44,159
about show these Americans what we're all about. And then

784
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,320
the drummer probably just like breaks one of his drumsticks

785
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:50,400
and stabs the man to death.

786
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: Well, maybe the drummer. He was also deployed overseas.

787
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,519
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, so he had some ptsdas he might.

788
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:59,679
Speaker 2: Mentally not be great. Not everyone handled it.

789
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Well, No, probably heard some things, maybe snapped.

790
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: I just like every day you're getting shelled. I feel

791
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,760
like I'd be pretty good at disassociating eventually and just

792
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,519
be like, I don't.

793
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,039
Speaker 1: Know, it's fucking pretty soon after shell it again.

794
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,039
Speaker 2: No, I mean like during if you're just in the trench.

795
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: Every day, get numbed to it.

796
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, you would think, but a lot of you saw.

797
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: All your friends just get crushed and die.

798
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,519
Speaker 2: Well, here we go again.

799
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: Johnson himself became a champion for his fellow troops, testifying

800
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,960
before the New York Legislator in early nineteen nineteen in

801
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,960
support of a bill to give veterans a preference in

802
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:41,599
government hiring. After a fiery speech in Saint Louis, there

803
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,440
you go in March of nineteen nineteen You're a major city,

804
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,360
in which he accused white soldiers of racism and cowardice,

805
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,559
Johnson eventually disappeared from the public sphere altogether. That does

806
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:58,039
not probably the best move, because they were kind of

807
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,920
propping them up to be the like token black man,

808
00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:04,800
right right, right, that, well, look how progressive we are.

809
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, well look we found some good ones.

810
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,079
Speaker 1: Yeah he was the good one. Yeah. Yeah. They kind

811
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:11,159
of pimped up, and he's like, well, actually I was

812
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:12,079
kind of treated like shit.

813
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: I I don't know what he's accusing them of. Cowardice wise,

814
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,719
like cowardice in terms of not speaking up for them.

815
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: Okay, sure maybe or maybe just not sermons. Many days

816
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:21,960
they did.

817
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know. If they were on the

818
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,880
front lines of the trenches also getting shelled and shot

819
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,599
at seems like not the best move to call them pussies.

820
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,039
Speaker 1: He spent part of nineteen twenty in the Army's Walter

821
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:42,639
Reid Hospital and later grew sick from tuberculosis. He died

822
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:46,280
nine years later, at age thirty nine, of an enlarged heart.

823
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,719
He actually received the Medal of Honor in twenty fifteen,

824
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,360
when Obama finally gave it to him.

825
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of black in particular posthumous Medal of Honor. Yeah,

826
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,480
it seems to be a for for a lot of

827
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,760
them to get it. A lot more possumous or a

828
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,320
lot more Also, way after the fact, I feel like

829
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,840
there are a lot of black dudes from the Civil

830
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,519
War who got the Congressional Medal of Honor.

831
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: When did we start actually like just thinking, oh, yeah,

832
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:20,000
like they're dope ass soldiers Vietnam.

833
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,199
Speaker 2: Harry Truman integrated the army Korea. Yeah, that's when the

834
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,360
army was integrated. They were not obviously integrated in World

835
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,760
War Two. Hence like the Tuskegee Airmen, and there were

836
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,079
some distinguished like infantry units and stuff as well. I

837
00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,360
don't I don't know that we even allowed them to

838
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:44,639
drive tanks. But yeah, yeah, a lot of the black

839
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:52,400
soldiers were doing logistical stuff in World War Two because

840
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,079
they were like nah, I can't remember if the top

841
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:56,800
of my head. I mean, there's a movie about one,

842
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,840
sort of. It doesn't really talk about it, like it

843
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,119
The Miracle at Saint Anna. Yeah, with a Spike Lee movie.

844
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,199
It's a pretty good movie. Actually, it's not like a

845
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,800
great like war movie, but it's a good like movie movie.

846
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,840
That one was really good. But yeah, the Tuskegee Airman

847
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,679
kind of get all the press and rightfully so they

848
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:19,480
were goddamn elite. Uh. I can't remember the infantry units

849
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,440
off the top of my head, But yeah, Harry Truman

850
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,039
integrated the.

851
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like they also get kind of run because

852
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,559
of the Tuskegee experiments.

853
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: You know, it's not great seo. Yeah.

854
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,679
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people probably combined the two. Yeah.

855
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way. It was an experiment. You're telling me,

856
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:44,519
they fly, and unfortunately both of the experiments worked. Yeah,

857
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,880
I mean not unfortunate.

858
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,679
Speaker 1: Last half full honestly. Yeah, it's all about perspective.

859
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just trying anything with black Eyes and Tuskegee. Yeah,

860
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,440
some of them good, most of them bad.

861
00:42:56,639 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: But let's focus on the positive here.

862
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, come on, who are you such a

863
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:05,679
It's just a pessimist, you know, Okay, yeah, we get

864
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:07,679
was syphilist or something. I don't remember what it was.

865
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:09,559
It was something fucked up like that though.

866
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,159
Speaker 1: That's the quick softcore history edition on the Harlem hell Fighters.

867
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: I mean they were badass motherfires. They Yeah, the French

868
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,480
adored them. The French gave them a million medals. They

869
00:43:21,519 --> 00:43:24,599
were They are still heroes in France to this day.

870
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:29,480
The French actually do a good job of gassing up

871
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,719
American troops. Obviously, they still take care of all the

872
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,239
Norman dy cemeteries and stuff.

873
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,599
Speaker 1: Like that.

874
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: But man, oh they well, let's put it this way,

875
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,039
we repaid those revolutionary war.

876
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: Debts tenfold quite a bit.

877
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we did more than enough.

878
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about the Dreyfuss situation.

879
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're kind of a Francophile, the.

880
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,599
Speaker 1: Dreyfus case in the Patreon this week, which were in

881
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:02,400
a bad way when it came.

882
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: To war, lost a lot of wars from eighteen seventy

883
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:11,000
to nineteen fifty. It was real grim and even though

884
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,079
they won World War One, it just seemed like they

885
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:17,159
did a bad job.

886
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: It's like they were incredibly petty too. That's why they

887
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,599
put all those sanctions on Germany after the like we need.

888
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: To fuck them, which came back pretty bad. And I

889
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,800
think a lot of them, honestly, a lot of the French,

890
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:31,360
as far as the Germans go, were pretty A lot

891
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,079
of the people in charge were still but heard about

892
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:41,079
the Franco Prussian War and wanted to just fuck Germany.

893
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Dreyfus served in World War One after everything

894
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:44,480
that happened on them.

895
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:50,199
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, we know the French for World War One.

896
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,039
The French won, but it was an ugly win, you

897
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:54,880
know what I mean. You don't cover the spread, you know,

898
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:57,360
you look like garbage the whole time.

899
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: I will say though, a lot of people kind of

900
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,000
pulled whether or not they covered the drive situation in

901
00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:08,119
their school history books. Yeah, a lot of people in

902
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:10,920
my corner never never covered it.

903
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,119
Speaker 2: I had one one other guy say we covered it

904
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:16,960
in European history in high school. So, but I also

905
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:19,599
don't trust anyone just saying no, I didn't.

906
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: They didn't teach us that. It's like were you paying attention?

907
00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: Right? And also like how would you remember most of it?

908
00:45:26,039 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: Still?

909
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 2: Trapped in history? History class is such a like for

910
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,039
most people. I think history classes on the level of

911
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:40,440
math class where they're just like, uh, get me the

912
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,519
fuck out of here.

913
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,679
Speaker 1: You think, so, maybe that's that's not a great business

914
00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:48,400
to get into. Then what us?

915
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:52,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're film class. Now we're gonna have a

916
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,360
film I don't even know. Okay, we'll have to read

917
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,000
what's your favorite what was your What was history your

918
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,599
favorite class?

919
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: And it was yeah. I mean I had obviously some

920
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,840
electives where I get to mess with cameras.

921
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: Right right right, But in terms of like core.

922
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Core class, history is one. Yeah, yeah, by far, I've

923
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,719
always landed into it.

924
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

925
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: History.

926
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: The only thing I my only complains about history classes

927
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,559
would be like in college, where it was just like

928
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:21,079
so much writing, so much god damn writing, and not

929
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,800
fun writing where you can just make everything up. Yeah,

930
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,920
like writing where you had to be on it and

931
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,159
cite fucking sources. I do in high school too, to

932
00:46:31,159 --> 00:46:34,000
be honest, and that was that was where history started

933
00:46:34,039 --> 00:46:35,599
to be less fun. I mostly like to just be

934
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:39,840
in class and like no stuff and be like yeah

935
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,840
I know that, Yeah I know that, and they're like, oh.

936
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,079
Speaker 1: You know trivia whiz. Yeah.

937
00:46:43,159 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: Basically then they're like, oh, you know so much to

938
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write this paper where you have to meticulously cite everything.

939
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Speaker 1: That's what we do the show we do. Yeah, we

940
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want to be pretty loose with everything.

941
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Speaker 2: Fast and loose on soft core history. I don't know

942
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,960
if any think he said it was true today except

943
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except the party.

944
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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently you don't think this guy's real.

945
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: No, I think he's real.

946
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: I think Johnson's goes to Kiev.

947
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Speaker 2: He goes to Kiev type of guy, Yeah, maybe.

948
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Speaker 1: Or Kiev what. I don't even know how to pronounce

949
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that at this point.

950
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Speaker 2: Kiv is the Ukrainian pronunciation, but I just don't care.

951
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: Our friend Ryan's in Ukraine right now.

952
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Again, is he want more cancer?

953
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,519
Speaker 1: He went back, Well, he said he's gonna skipture Noble.

954
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: Probably for the best.

955
00:47:25,039 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: But he is in Kiev. We're doing what clubbing, hanging out,

956
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:31,599
just seeing what it's about. He might join the revolution,

957
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:33,639
who knows. Honestly, he's got to get drafted.

958
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,039
Speaker 2: Ukrainian women very attractive and if everyone's partying like they're

959
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:42,559
gonna die, seems.

960
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: Like a good time, especially a man that for a

961
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,760
long time thought he's gonna die.

962
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 2: What if you were just like a tourist who went

963
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,599
to like countries that had clubs to club But we're

964
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:56,559
also like at war where people just had this sort

965
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:58,880
of like Tomorrow's not coming mentality.

966
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,159
Speaker 1: It's just like an adrenaline junk. Yeah, you just tell

967
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,039
you're chasing the apocalypse.

968
00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,159
Speaker 2: Once you go clubbing in Kiev. Doesn't know how No,

969
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,239
it doesn't matter how much money you spend in Vegas, Dude,

970
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:09,880
it's not the same.

971
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: Dude, wait till you go to Damascus.

972
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,639
Speaker 2: I've told you the way. But he did fuck you in.

973
00:48:18,599 --> 00:48:20,679
Speaker 1: Ryan might just be the guy that you're talking about.

974
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,880
He actually just was in Damascus. Now he's in Kiev.

975
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,960
He's just chasing I think he wants to die.

976
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: He's chasing war pussy. Probably he's chasing war bitches.

977
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: If he comes back, we should gt him on the show,

978
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,280
just to explain all of his action.

979
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, you have no idea how horny a

980
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,639
war widow is. They just don't care about nothing. They're drunk.

981
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,880
They're just having a good time. Yeah.

982
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: He kept posting stories like I'm in the bunker again

983
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,559
in Damascus, knowing Keev.

984
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, party keeps going though.

985
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,519
Speaker 1: Spin classes got to keep on rolling.

986
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: It's an underground rave in a drone proof bunker. He's like,

987
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,960
still got the glow sticks.

988
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: It's the whole Daniel Tosh bit where it's like you

989
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,559
get the soldiers get to drive to war every day

990
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:05,840
from their homes.

991
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: Sounds horrible, but he's just there to clean up.

992
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well everyone else is away.

993
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,079
Speaker 2: Getting getting drone to death, having a little drone drop

994
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:17,559
a grenade.

995
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,159
Speaker 1: Our buddy will play with our wives.

996
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a what is it a Jody.

997
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: I suppose, Yeah, Jody's the one that steals your girl.

998
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's jodying Ukrainian soul.

999
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Internationally. He's a Globe trott He's.

1000
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 2: An international Jody. It's good, good work if you can

1001
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,280
get it, to be honest.

1002
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: A Joe Trotter. What did he learn today?

1003
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,679
Speaker 2: If anything, I didn't know like this, But I mean

1004
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,360
I knew about the Harble Hell fighters and how the

1005
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:55,840
French were much cooler to them than the Americans. I

1006
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,559
didn't know the specifics of these guys though, especially U

1007
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,639
his elite knife play at some point. Again, it's like

1008
00:50:04,679 --> 00:50:07,719
what we joked about with the fucking dude who is

1009
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960
like rocking a sword in battle. Yeah, it's funny from

1010
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,480
one hundred feet away a bow and arrow. Yeah, it's

1011
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,880
funny from one hundred feet away to see a guy

1012
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:21,000
with a sword running at you. It's it is the

1013
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,960
like one eighty of how funny it is when he's

1014
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,159
ten feet away from you. Yeah, And that's what you

1015
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:28,679
feel like with a guy with a knife, Like he's

1016
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:30,440
one hundred feet away, Like he only has a knife.

1017
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:34,760
This shouldn't be a problem. Someone will get him all

1018
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,119
of a sudden he's in your trench and it becomes

1019
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:39,760
literally the biggest problem in your entire life.

1020
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that hypothetical where the snail is always chasing

1021
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,719
you the rest of your life, and all of a

1022
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,519
sudden the snails right next to you in bed.

1023
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:48,519
Speaker 2: Like, ah fuck, it's over, it's over.

1024
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: Who's today's hitler?

1025
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:57,159
Speaker 2: I don't know, Segregation, I guess the drummer.

1026
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,639
Speaker 1: Ye, I'm gonna go with the guy that killed my

1027
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,639
man Europe.

1028
00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, he probably wasn't mentally all there at that point.

1029
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,760
If he ever was, he might have not been great

1030
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,320
to start.

1031
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: And then maybe somebody in the band, you know, played

1032
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,320
an instrument that just triggered something.

1033
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: It could have been. Maybe it was creative differences.

1034
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: That's actually what happened. It has nothing to do with

1035
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,960
his PTSD. Yeah, he's just like I didn't like the guy.

1036
00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 2: He wanted to do jazz on the parade and they

1037
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,559
were like, let's do French stuff to honor you know,

1038
00:51:29,639 --> 00:51:32,679
the army we actually served in, and didn't sit well

1039
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,039
with him.

1040
00:51:33,679 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: And it just kind of like stewed for two months, yep.

1041
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,039
And then finally in Boston of all places.

1042
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: Did he get I assume he.

1043
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: Got arrested and look into it.

1044
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, what doesn't matter. H Yeah, he's he's probably the hitler.

1045
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,280
Him and segregation one one's he teosy ones he.

1046
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:57,079
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's our episode for today. We love you guys,

1047
00:51:57,119 --> 00:52:01,280
thanks for tuning in again. Please check patreon dot com

1048
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,440
slash Software History get two additional episodes Wednesday and Friday,

1049
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,480
and uh yeah, we got a bunch of stuff coming

1050
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,880
on the way. With the different tiers, we'll kind of get.

1051
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: You well to be one different tier, right yeah, yeah.

1052
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,679
Speaker 1: But we'll get you kind of caught up with that

1053
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:19,400
in the next week or so. If you do join,

1054
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:20,880
there's also a.

1055
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,199
Speaker 2: Discord wildly active discord that is.

1056
00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: For paying members of the Patreon So you sign up,

1057
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:29,840
you get to be a part of the community, get

1058
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,719
to be a softie, you get to be be able

1059
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,480
to chat it up with everybody else that listens.

1060
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very active.

1061
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk college football. I mean there's a bunch

1062
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:40,960
of stuff in there, so.

1063
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as well as a lot of history.

1064
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:44,679
Speaker 1: A lot of history stuff as well.

1065
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: But if you want a history place to let.

1066
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,199
Speaker 1: Loose and just kind of fuck around, hang out, we are.

1067
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,679
We're pretty active in it too. Then they again, I

1068
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,719
have all the time in the world, baby.

1069
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:59,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, super mod over here. I'll like open it once

1070
00:52:59,079 --> 00:53:00,440
every four hours and be.

1071
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Like, oh, there's like three hundred messages after and you're like,

1072
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,000
oh no.

1073
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: O oh god, I like respond to I'm tagged in

1074
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,519
and be like and I'm gonna deal with that.

1075
00:53:08,679 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I try to go back and read them all because

1076
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,119
I'm very appreciative of how much it's popped off.

1077
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: I have read. I have read most of them, but

1078
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:17,360
at some point, the conversations so far along that I'm like, well, no, no,

1079
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,920
this is pertinent to me anymore. Yeah, it's a very

1080
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,639
active discord.

1081
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: Train keeps going. We'll work on the set a little

1082
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,599
bit more. I got new lights coming, so we'll be

1083
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,039
looking a little bit more professional next time you see us.

1084
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:40,039
This is I'm specifically saying this for potential future you know, employers. Oh,

1085
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:43,559
fair enough drop of quality. So yeah, this is not

1086
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:45,239
an indication of what I can do. This is just

1087
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,159
what I'm limited to.

1088
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,679
Speaker 2: I mean, you have hundreds of other episodes up as well,

1089
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,519
so it's I feel like, it's.

1090
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,519
Speaker 1: Fine, We've got to put my best foot forward, right,

1091
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,079
fair enough, Fair You're only as good as the last

1092
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:59,199
thing you did. That's true in this industry.

1093
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just ask Averie Johnson's family.

1094
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,639
Speaker 1: M hm. That's the employees of the Ringer.

1095
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the new lingo I gotta put out.

1096
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,639
Speaker 1: That's a Simpson's character, isn't it. I mean, yeah, it's

1097
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:17,440
not comic book man, but that's uh.

1098
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: No, it's like the teenager. Oh I don't know, mister, yeah. Oh,

1099
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:26,639
he's got some real what are the kids called jumping? Now,

1100
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,440
he's got some real bounce. He could bounce out of

1101
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,079
the gym.

1102
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:39,079
Speaker 1: Dog. We should we should honestly do a Ringer podcast

1103
00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:43,239
for the Patreon, like, uh, the Ringer does a history show,

1104
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:44,880
but with.

1105
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: All with all modern black slang.

1106
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Well that's we'll just be ring our employees in.

1107
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,639
Speaker 2: He went hard on him, He went hard in the

1108
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,840
paint on Lee at Getty's Burke. Mead went hard in

1109
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,679
the paint on Lee.

1110
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: So the Ringer won't hire me, so cross them off anyway.

1111
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,039
Thanks for tuning in. We love you guys for rob

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Fox some damn regester, you just got a soft served