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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in to Clippers Talk. Fourth episode so far this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Adam Oslan. Appreciate all the new viewers,

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<v Speaker 1>the new listeners. We're still a podcast. People are asking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. You can still find it on Spotify, iTunes.

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart wherever you consume just your podcasting. But now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube as well. Started this about three weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>almost up to two K followers. I am shocked as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everyone, and I think it's because not me,

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<v Speaker 1>but the great guests we have had on, including this

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<v Speaker 1>man who's joining me today. You find him at LA

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers Film on X and Twitter. We had his brother

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<v Speaker 1>on last week. And like his brother and like coach Lou,

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<v Speaker 1>this man also has a beautiful basketball mind. It is

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Wilson joining me here on Clippers Talk. Justin, my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>How are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, man, Thank you for the kind words.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to be on with You're me, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on you and your brother big time. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>are two of my basketball north stars. I look to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys when it comes to analysis and understanding the

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<v Speaker 1>game at a high level and understanding what it means

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<v Speaker 1>to win in today's league and how you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we'll talk about that here because I

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<v Speaker 1>know one of the subjects I brought up with you

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted to discuss was just life without Paul George,

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<v Speaker 1>as they're leaning into that now. As he made the

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<v Speaker 1>decision to go to Philadelphia, I was pulling up the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive and defensive ratings for the two man lineup of

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi Leonard next to James Harden, and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get more in depth on what that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to look like because I know, you know, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the analytics, but you can break down the film. You

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<v Speaker 1>can break down the flare screens, the Spain pick and rolls,

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<v Speaker 1>all that. You see it well and you see it

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<v Speaker 1>on La Clippers film on X because Justin Wilson is

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<v Speaker 1>very good at these things. So how do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to run the offense with those two? And

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<v Speaker 1>just what can we look forward to because we heard

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<v Speaker 1>in that report that came out from Home on ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday that coach lou already has what three hundred plays

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<v Speaker 1>that he has drawn up that are new plays that

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<v Speaker 1>don't have Paul George on the court. He's built like that,

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<v Speaker 1>He's a basketball genius that he is always thinking the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So what principles do you think they're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>out there now that they know this is the duo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the twenty one Blackjack duo with Kawhi and James

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<v Speaker 1>harden As I think Jamal put it, So what can

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<v Speaker 1>we look forward to expecting from those guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Offensively, did he really coin the phrase twenty one blackjack

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<v Speaker 2>for them?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know one of you guys put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought it was Jamal he said twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, that's pretty good. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is going to depend on how the Clippers go about

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<v Speaker 2>supporting those two guys, right. I think when you lose

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George, and you know, I've been critical of Paul George,

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<v Speaker 2>but you just it's it's impossible to replace a six

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<v Speaker 2>' nine shooter of that degree.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's.

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<v Speaker 2>A he's an all time great shooter and you know

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<v Speaker 2>for the past five years. Offensively, that is a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of how we get to what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>we want to do with his facing. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>even for Tyler Low, it's going to be an adjustment

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<v Speaker 2>because he more than any player that has come through

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<v Speaker 2>this organization in the last five years has honestly been

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<v Speaker 2>the most valuable, right, Like, he's the one that can

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<v Speaker 2>come off of single doubles, he's the one that can

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<v Speaker 2>space in the corner.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the one that, if need be, can take the

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<v Speaker 3>on ball reps as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so without him, I think it's you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a way more diverse package. It may not, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably won't mean that it's better, but you'll see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more or Zoo post ups, just straight Zoo post ups.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you'll see a lot of like Derrick Jones

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<v Speaker 2>Junior running in crashing on the offensive glass. Hopefully you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see uh, let's go yeah, yeah, that's my guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching them at him on Rico Hines runs. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks pretty good. But like it's it's it's very hard,

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<v Speaker 2>honestly to picture how the spacing is going to work.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know you're starting Zoo and you're starting Terrence

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<v Speaker 2>Man and I assume you're probably starting with Derrick Jones

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<v Speaker 2>Junior next to Kawhi Leonard, maybe that's like that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be tough on the spacing. So I think in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways, their defense is going to be their offense. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you hope that Zoo and Terrence Man with

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<v Speaker 2>increased usage can kind of bolster a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a leap right where where you lose Paul George, but

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<v Speaker 2>you get rim pressure, more rim pressure from Terrence Man,

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<v Speaker 2>more rim pressure and opportunities from Sue. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>in particular the offense, hopefully you get more room pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>But really it's the defense with Gunn and Zoo and

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<v Speaker 2>Terrence and Derek Jones Junior and hopefully Kawhi Leonard is

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<v Speaker 2>back to being himself that turns into your offense. So

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<v Speaker 2>you might see a slippite on the offensive end, but

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive end is where you're going to get more stops,

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<v Speaker 2>which should allow you to score a bit more efficiently

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<v Speaker 2>in transition for all three.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Wilson is our guest brother of Jamal Christopher who

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<v Speaker 1>we had on last week. Both guys, you get better

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<v Speaker 1>the jam the podcast say the best for last bro

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<v Speaker 1>on first here. I love you both, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>have to come clean. One of you guys came up

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<v Speaker 1>to me at a game last season and I just

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<v Speaker 1>had to play it off like my guy what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you're identical twins, And it probably was him.

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<v Speaker 3>He went to more games than I did last It

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<v Speaker 3>probably was him.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned losing Paul George, and there's no way to

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<v Speaker 1>replace that productivity, especially coming off the year that he had.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was you, and I have quoted you,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've given you credit for this. Regardless that said,

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<v Speaker 1>they were using him like Michael Porter Junior on steroids

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<v Speaker 1>last season, the way he was playing off ball next

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<v Speaker 1>to James Harden, whether he liked that role or not,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seemed like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think he Oh, I didn't mean to interrupt,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, I think he's just a conflicted guy. But

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<v Speaker 2>like he went to Philadelphia and he's going to play

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<v Speaker 2>a very similar role, and you know, hopefully that's a

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<v Speaker 2>sign of self awareness for him as far as like

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<v Speaker 2>where he's at in this stage of his career, much

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<v Speaker 2>more of a play finisher. So I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense why he had his most efficient season

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<v Speaker 2>ever as a third option, being almost exclusively a play

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<v Speaker 2>finisher instead of like a play a shot creator.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what did it surprise you? I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>lineup data the two man lineup data. Last season, James

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<v Speaker 1>Harden and Kawhi Leonard were on the court for about

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen hundred minutes. Their offensive rating was one nineteen. It's nice,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive rating one twelve, you know, a plus seven net rating.

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden next to Paul George actually had a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better of an offensive rating at one twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost defensive rating about the same. And it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>early on the season we were looking at of the

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<v Speaker 1>four stars and former stars and MVPs with Russell Westbrook

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<v Speaker 1>in the mix, then who coach Lou was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pair with who, And eventually it seemed like you saidtled

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<v Speaker 1>on Kawhi next to James Harden more right? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about that?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No? Absolutely? Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>So why do you think that was and how do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that could translate and carry over to them

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<v Speaker 1>putting up higher efficiency numbers this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I think you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing with Paul last year, and I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler was spoken about this before he can come and go,

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<v Speaker 2>he can float, he can get lost a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Paul George is a player that Tylu

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<v Speaker 2>has hammered to wanting to be more aggressive and so

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<v Speaker 2>I think by pairing him with a player that he's

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<v Speaker 2>most comfortable with as far from a point guard perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>a player who can kind of galvanize him a bit

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<v Speaker 2>and get him going, maybe get some of that okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see energy going.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was the idea, right Like, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have Russell Westbrook on ball, pair him with

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's had success with him before and Paul George

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<v Speaker 2>and I think, you know, for Paul, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>that's something that he desired to write like he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He's somebody that wanted Russell Westbrook here. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>all of that went into play. As far as how

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<v Speaker 2>James and Kawhi Leonard as a pairing goes this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they both play at their own pace. They're those

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<v Speaker 3>Their own pace aka slow extremely.

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<v Speaker 1>I think their pace was ninety six when I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>It really just it really both of those guys at

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<v Speaker 2>this point of their careers depend on the support of

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<v Speaker 2>each other as far as shot making is concerned, right like,

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<v Speaker 2>like James Harden, I think, if I'm not mistaken, career

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<v Speaker 2>low attempts and shot at the rim right like like

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<v Speaker 2>Kawhi Leonard has has gradually lost a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a verse from his prime. So like, I think those

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<v Speaker 2>two together it's gonna be a ton of like over

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<v Speaker 2>the top shot making because honestly, I you may, you

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<v Speaker 2>may throw Norm in there with them, but then the

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<v Speaker 2>defense starts to suffer, so it won't it won't really

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<v Speaker 2>be perfect. But those two guys I'm kind of envisioned.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of envisioned hopefully we see more two man

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<v Speaker 2>action with him as far as like James and Kawhi

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<v Speaker 2>playing two man pick and roll type stuff to where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't switch a small on to Kawhi Leonard.

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<v Speaker 3>And and that can kind of get the change moving.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One of the things that is like a

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<v Speaker 2>hallmark of NBA offense is whatever it is that you

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<v Speaker 2>can do to create that man advantage right to give

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<v Speaker 2>yourself the best opportunity to get the most efficient shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that could be something that the Clippers honestly

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<v Speaker 2>go to a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking like top of the key pick.

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<v Speaker 2>And rolls with Kawhi and Harden, or empty corner pick

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<v Speaker 3>You know, without Paul, I think they can stand to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hopefully, as Louke ty Lewis kind of suggested,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to explore those things. And I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to play without Paul, if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>play with some non shooters, you can start to get

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<v Speaker 2>the chains moving offensively by doing some stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as that two.

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<v Speaker 1>Man game is concerned, James Harden's just turned thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any fear of trepidation that they will be

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<v Speaker 1>relying on him too much this season? With losing too

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<v Speaker 1>high use whatever you want to say about Paul George

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<v Speaker 1>and Russell Westbrook's passing ability, they still have the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in their hands a lot, and now it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>Moore is going to be on the plate of James Harden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, you should hear the debates that my

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<v Speaker 2>that he just turned thirty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm terrified. I am petrified.

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<v Speaker 2>He was someone in my opinion, who over the last

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight games of last year, really started to show

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<v Speaker 2>like some serious aging and like there were games where

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<v Speaker 2>he need only score like four points. And he is

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<v Speaker 2>someone that in my opinion, at this stage of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>You want him to have less responsibilities, not more, And

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<v Speaker 2>so that kind of made the Paul leave it. Letting

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George go for nothing kind of awkward to me

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<v Speaker 2>if the goal is to like seriously win, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't trust that James Harden at this stage of his

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<v Speaker 2>career can do some heavy lifting on the offensive side

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<v Speaker 2>of the ball, which, honestly, with the amount of spacing

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<v Speaker 2>or lack thereof, that the Clippers might forecast this upcoming season,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna need James Harden to not just be that

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<v Speaker 2>guy that's coming off of pick and rolls just looking

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<v Speaker 2>for other people he's going to have to score. Last year,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought at the high points of the season it

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<v Speaker 2>his own shots. I think when we started oh and five,

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<v Speaker 2>oh and six or whatever, when we first got him,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that helped turn the corner was

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<v Speaker 2>that James Harden started looking for his own more. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's easier to do when you have Kawhi

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<v Speaker 2>Leonard and Paul George next to you. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>take away one of those twenty three point per game

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<v Speaker 2>players and you don't replace him at all. It makes

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<v Speaker 2>it really tough. So I'm petrified at what James Harden

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<v Speaker 2>looks like. Maybe not at the start of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>but as we get to game twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Five thirty thirty five forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't think that he'll have any issues

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<v Speaker 2>from a durability perspective, but the opponency offensively is what

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting what you just said, because I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people would see that as counterintuitive. They would say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's playing next to Kawhi and Paul George, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be less aggressive out there. He's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take less shots and maybe feel like he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>as much of a green light. But you're saying, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes things easier for him because he gets more

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<v Speaker 1>one on one coverages, he gets more advantages on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive end to lead to more efficient possessions. He Alwalys

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<v Speaker 1>took eleven shots per game last season as a Clipper.

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<v Speaker 1>I was arguing with someone on twitters you'll find me

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<v Speaker 1>doing sometimes at follow out of May recently, that he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to get up more than I think seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>shots per game this season. They were saying somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen and twenty. I was saying somewhere between you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and seventeen. To me, seventeen is the max. I

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<v Speaker 1>just this stage of his career, even though yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>used to do that a lot. I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>done it. I don't think he's gone over sixteen point

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<v Speaker 1>eight shots per game his last four seasons or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Where do you put him at shot attemp wise?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably in that same range, like maybe thirteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think a lot of people kind of

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<v Speaker 3>how can I say this?

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people don't take into account like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this player leaves, which means that this player gets more shots.

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<v Speaker 2>But like that kind of isn't always how that works, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he didn't take eleven shots last year strictly because

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<v Speaker 2>he was playing with great talent. He took eleven shots

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<v Speaker 2>last year because he was thirty four years old, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has no burst anymore. He cannot get by anybody anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>He can't get to the rim anymore, and he needs

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of like assistance as far as like picking

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<v Speaker 2>rolls just to honestly get his stuff off at this

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<v Speaker 2>stage of his career and don't get me wrong. He's

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<v Speaker 2>still obviously a tremendous talent, and he's still one of,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, one of the best point guards in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. But if you think James Harden is going

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<v Speaker 2>to take fifteen, sixteen seventeen shots lightly, either that won't

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<v Speaker 2>happen or he'll be cooked by the All Star breaking

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think without.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul George, right, his minutes are probably going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to go up, especially without Paul George, I mean without

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<v Speaker 2>Russell Westbrook as well, right, like us for whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to say about Russell.

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<v Speaker 3>Westbrook, he just played minutes, right, he played.

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<v Speaker 2>And without Russell Westbrook, without Paul George, the responsibility on

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<v Speaker 2>James Harden is harder and it's more and like those

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be hard minutes, right, Like, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have anybody else to say, hey, you run the offense

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not what Kawhi Leonard does, That's not what.

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<v Speaker 3>He wants to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So he can't throw the ball to Russell Westbrook's possession

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<v Speaker 2>and say hey, you create, or he can't go to

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<v Speaker 2>the bench and look at Russell Westbrook create offense. He

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<v Speaker 2>can't say, hey, I'm running this for Paul George, you created, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be him. He has an increased level

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<v Speaker 2>of responsibility and that is fatigue inducing, and that that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to It caught up to him last year over

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<v Speaker 2>the last like thirty five to thirty seven games, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it happened again, but I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised because going into his age thirty five season,

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<v Speaker 2>it just doesn't logically, you don't that doesn't get better

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<v Speaker 2>as you get older, being able to handle more responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>without getting more fatigue, you know, by the time catches

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<v Speaker 2>us all.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a fair point. There was about a

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<v Speaker 1>month and a half stretch there a late January into

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<v Speaker 1>early March with the Clippers were around five hundred, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed to be precipitated by the fact that James

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<v Speaker 1>Harden didn't look the same. You brought up the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw you put out a tweet for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 1>so much he's gassed, he's done, he's cooked, because he

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<v Speaker 1>did look different in that playoff series, first wise, overall

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<v Speaker 1>energy wise.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is I was telling my brother, that's precisely

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<v Speaker 2>the point, right, Like he had a week off before

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs and then had multiple two day rests in

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<v Speaker 2>between those games. So like, if you're giving me James

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<v Speaker 2>Harden where he can get a week off or have

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<v Speaker 2>multiple times during the season where he's where he's playing

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<v Speaker 2>every two or three days, then yeah, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>would fare much better. But like I definitely could be

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<v Speaker 2>wrong because he's just that talented of a player. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about one of the seventy five greatest. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>games against Indiana or Atlanta last year where he was

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<v Speaker 2>just he was He looked like Vintas James Harden, where

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<v Speaker 2>you know he'll always be able to go to his

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<v Speaker 2>pound ribble, step back type of type of game. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought in the playoffs he looked tremendous. But I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't all that surprised because he got way more rest.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no back to backs, two day breaks, multiple

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<v Speaker 2>two day break in an entire week leading up to

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, you know, So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's a fair point. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting a text from your brother Jamal. He says, you're

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<v Speaker 1>mischaracterizing my argument.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm playing.

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<v Speaker 1>I also saw this tweet review at LA Clippers film.

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<v Speaker 1>Regarding Kawhi Leonard, you said, I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>games is safe for Kawhi Leonard to play this upcoming season,

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<v Speaker 1>But I am intrigued at the thought of Kawhi Leonard,

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<v Speaker 1>who has to take more of a volume approach to offense.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you think as I look, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say he was at eighteen shots per game somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>There, which is pitiful honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>For someone as efficient as him. Now you expect it. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was at seventeen shots per game out Paul George

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<v Speaker 1>was there, Russell Westbrook was getting ten shots in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes per night. How much could the efficiency dip if

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting up, you know, twenty twenty one shots all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden. And do you think he will get

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<v Speaker 1>to that type of mark?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think he'll get to that that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a mark. I don't know if it's in the best

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<v Speaker 2>interest of him physically, because, like James Harding, you want

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<v Speaker 2>less responsibility on Kawhi Leonard at this stage of his

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<v Speaker 2>career than more, because as he showed physically last year,

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<v Speaker 2>right like sixty plus games of Kawhi Leonard taking a

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<v Speaker 2>hard twenty plus shots at night is probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>burn him out. Like, like, I don't want to jinx

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<v Speaker 2>the guy and say he's gonna get injured next year.

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<v Speaker 2>You never can't predict those things. But like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how advantageous at this point of his career it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be for that. But at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when the ball is rolled out and you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to win games, the best route for this Clipper

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<v Speaker 2>team to win games is going to be him taking

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<v Speaker 2>way more of and a selfish approach to offense. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think Kawhi gets enough credit for

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<v Speaker 2>his unselfishness, right, Like, he is someone that could hijack

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<v Speaker 2>an offense and he could do a lot more from

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<v Speaker 2>a from a field goal to tim perspective. So I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely think he's going to have to take out of

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<v Speaker 2>sheer necessity. He's going to take twenty shots a game,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even maybe a fraction more. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>his efficiency is going to suffer all that much simply

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<v Speaker 2>because he's just that great of a player. He's he's

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<v Speaker 2>someone that, like you know, I'm a little pessimistic on

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<v Speaker 2>how good we can be going into this season. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not pessimistic about that guy. You know, last year,

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<v Speaker 2>once again when he was healthy, he showed you that

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<v Speaker 2>he can rise to an MVP level. And if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any optimism with the Clippers, to me, it's the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that you're getting a Kawhi Leonard who's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>shooting more. Because for all of the flaws of the

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers roster, you can hide those by Kawhi Leonard simply.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a superhero taking and making those.

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<v Speaker 2>Superhero esque shots that only he and a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>others in the league and taken me at a relatively

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<v Speaker 2>efficient value. So I'm I'm sewing this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most exciting parts of next season seeing Kawhi Leonard

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<v Speaker 2>actually approach the season like a superstar, right, Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's way too good to be shooting seventeen Like you

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<v Speaker 2>just said. Russell Westbrook took ten shots in like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes and Kawhi Leonard is taking seventh like co on Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so I'm anxious to see what he does.

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<v Speaker 3>How many years has it been. It has to have

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<v Speaker 3>been like four or five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Since he's taken like twenty shots, So I'm I'm anxious

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of the most exciting subplots of the season

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Regarding Kawhi, I should say, just to be fair so

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<v Speaker 1>no russ stands come after me, it was only nine

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<v Speaker 1>point eight shots per game in this twenty two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half minutes per game. I want to be accurate

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<v Speaker 1>with that. The last time or the most shot attempts

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<v Speaker 1>Kawhi is taken as a Clipper was his first year

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<v Speaker 1>at nineteen point nine attempts, so basically twenty shot attempts

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<v Speaker 1>per game. You mentioned being pessimistic on this season, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, overall pretty realistic, and this tweet underlines that

425
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<v Speaker 1>you said the LA Clippers win eighteen to nineteen to

426
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<v Speaker 1>end last season. James Harden during that time was averaging

427
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<v Speaker 1>sixteen points on forty percent shooting from the field over

428
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<v Speaker 1>his last forty games, and then they lost Paul George.

429
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<v Speaker 1>They didn't replace him. The sixth seed last year won

430
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<v Speaker 1>forty nine games in the Western Conference. What needs to

431
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<v Speaker 1>happen then for them to somehow stay out of the

432
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<v Speaker 1>play And we've talked about James, We've talked about Kawhi.

433
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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest key is Big Zoo. If Big

434
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<v Speaker 1>Zoo takes that step, as you mentioned earlier, with him

435
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<v Speaker 1>getting more post touches and more opportunities, he's got to

436
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<v Speaker 1>play over thirty minutes a night. That mitigates some of

437
00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:54.359
<v Speaker 1>the backup center minutes right there issues Just where are

438
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<v Speaker 1>you at with him and what they need from Terrence

439
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<v Speaker 1>Man two guys that are extension eligible coming into this season.

440
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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't tell you how much of a

441
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<v Speaker 2>fan I am of Zoo and how much it pisses

442
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.279
<v Speaker 2>me off that they just don't explore his individual office.

443
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<v Speaker 1>For my god, there's an easier way to win games.

444
00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:15.440
<v Speaker 3>And it's.

445
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Like we're playing pick and roll looking for switches, and

446
00:23:20.559 --> 00:23:23.599
<v Speaker 2>like he's the man advantage right, Like that's two points

447
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:24.279
<v Speaker 2>right at the back.

448
00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:26.839
<v Speaker 3>He has one of the best touches in basketball.

449
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>He's huge, and on a night to night basis, I

450
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.200
<v Speaker 2>honestly think he has an advantage to the point where,

451
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I kind of talk about like moving the

452
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>chains offensively, right, Like everything doesn't have to be a

453
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:44.759
<v Speaker 2>James Harden step back three, or James Harden pick and roll,

454
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>or or a Kawhi Leonard isolation into a long two.

455
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<v Speaker 2>Like obviously those guys can do that, but like you're

456
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<v Speaker 2>not gonna get very far if those are the shots

457
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<v Speaker 2>that you're taking.

458
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<v Speaker 3>And so I think I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me Zoo is a way that we can diversify

460
00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:05.799
<v Speaker 2>the way we approach offense. And you know, it's it's

461
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<v Speaker 2>just criminal the way that the Clippers have kind of

462
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:11.559
<v Speaker 2>ignored his growth as an offensive player. And you know,

463
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<v Speaker 2>I was very proud to see what he did against

464
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<v Speaker 2>the Dallas Mavericks and I don't think that was abnormality.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Or anything like that.

466
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<v Speaker 2>I think he's totally capable of doing something similar.

467
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<v Speaker 3>To that on a night in and night out basis.

468
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<v Speaker 2>And it's going to be pivotal because you know, Paul

469
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<v Speaker 2>George didn't provide much and so with somebody like Terrence

470
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<v Speaker 2>Mann who who who is, as you said, extincion eligible.

471
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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be playing for a new deal. I'm

472
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<v Speaker 2>anxious to see him in a in a more in

473
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 2>a role with more responsibility, because that's someone who can

474
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<v Speaker 2>knock down thirty seven percent of his streets and he

475
00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.640
<v Speaker 2>never misses at the basket. And so those two guys

476
00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.599
<v Speaker 2>are are two pathways, honestly to avoid the play. And

477
00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>they've got to have like some incredible seasons now relative

478
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:09.799
<v Speaker 2>to what we're expecting from them. They have to play

479
00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:13.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of above expectation. But this may be the Clipper

480
00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>bias in me. I think it's in their wheelhouse, especially Zoo.

481
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Especially Zoo. I don't want to put a limit on

482
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:22.000
<v Speaker 2>how good he can be because it seems like he

483
00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.599
<v Speaker 2>can make every every eight foot floater, every jump hook

484
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<v Speaker 2>with either hand.

485
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 3>He's got all of that in his bag.

486
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<v Speaker 2>So Tyleru, I know he wants to. He was talking

487
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>about how we're how we're gonna approach offense without Paul George.

488
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<v Speaker 2>It starts with Zoo. It starts with Zoo. Like like

489
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 2>it starts with Zoo. He's gonna have the advantage. And

490
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the more you ignore him, the harder the offenses. And

491
00:25:45.920 --> 00:25:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, to tie it back to what we were

492
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<v Speaker 2>talking about earlier, you don't want to burn James Harden out.

493
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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to burn Kawhi Leonard out. One of

494
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the easiest ways to do that is make Zoo a

495
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<v Speaker 2>feature offensive player.

496
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<v Speaker 1>Well spoken, perfectly said. I have lost some hair pulling

497
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it out overseeing games where beats the zoobots has a

498
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>really strong few minutes and then just go away from them,

499
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>and the amount of times they have said we're gonna

500
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.079
<v Speaker 1>try to get Zoo more involved, and it will last

501
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a game or two or a quarter or two, and

502
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>then they just forget about Zoo. I say it all

503
00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.079
<v Speaker 1>the time, but I will do that doctor dre parody.

504
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<v Speaker 1>At some point forgot about Zoo. I don't know why

505
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it keeps happening. He's too good. What does he need

506
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 1>to average for them to get the sixth spot? I'm

507
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 1>thinking around seventeen and ten.

508
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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's literally down to the exact number, is what

509
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:38.640
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Seventeen and ten, maybe even eighteen, right, Like, I just

511
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:44.279
<v Speaker 3>get greedy again.

512
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<v Speaker 2>My brother and I we've been debating about this, and

513
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.200
<v Speaker 2>like the Western Conference is really really tough, Like you know,

514
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.359
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about just in the Clippers Division, You've got

515
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:55.880
<v Speaker 2>like the.

516
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Lakers and the Warriors.

517
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<v Speaker 2>These aren't teams that aren't gonna win the champions, but

518
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like they you've got to play them eight times.

519
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, you got to play Phoenix four times as well.

520
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>And I think Phoenix if they're healthy, like they won

521
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>forty nine games last year.

522
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, like you've got the Simberwolves.

523
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Sacramento is not bad either. In the packagem PAC is

524
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.319
<v Speaker 1>one of the best divisions at all sports.

525
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, So when you're talking about when you're talking about

526
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>avoiding to play it, that's a tall act. And so

527
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to avoid the play in, you need

528
00:27:27.039 --> 00:27:31.319
<v Speaker 2>somebody to play way above expectations and I think Zoo

529
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 2>is the prime candidate to do that because he has

530
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 2>the skill set, he has the size. I'm kind of

531
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:40.839
<v Speaker 2>surprised they haven't got an extension done with him by now,

532
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 2>so maybe he can be motivated to play for a bigger.

533
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Number, which can help.

534
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:48.680
<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, if we're going to avoid the play in,

535
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<v Speaker 2>I don't see how it happens without Zoo having a

536
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:54.680
<v Speaker 2>monster season. And like, I'm not saying he needs to

537
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>be an All Star, but when you talk about the

538
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>best sinners in the Western Conference at the All Star break,

539
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Zoo's name has to come up.

540
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 3>If name.

541
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 2>If Zoo's name is coming up in those conversations, then

542
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 2>that suggests that the Clippers are playing above expectations and

543
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 2>they could fight for that for that sixty.

544
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, I don't want.

545
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>To act like there's a net positive of losing Paul

546
00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>George because there's not. But is there any area or

547
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>intangible you see that they could be better at. I

548
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>saw you retweet the THEO Ratliff thing talking about him

549
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>doing the little things and the defense he would play,

550
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like there's this, I don't know, misunderstanding

551
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>of who Paul George is on a night to night basis,

552
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>quarter to quarter basis. There's a lack of consistency. There

553
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>are things he can do. A lot of people will

554
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>say and I think it's the best way to scry

555
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Paul George. The idea of Paul George often isn't reality

556
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't They don't line up often enough. Just is there

557
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>one area or one little thing here and there the

558
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Clippers could be a little bit better at. Besides, you know,

559
00:28:59.000 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>lessening the turnovers.

560
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Let's let the fuck turn over.

561
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I said that my apology.

562
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

563
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I think it's the defense. I think it's the defense

564
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.920
<v Speaker 2>and more than anything, the activity. If you if if

565
00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you're paying attention to watching Paul George play, he wasn't

566
00:29:20.039 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 2>just providing lift service when he said that, Like you know,

567
00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 2>when they lost Niko Batoum, they lost. He didn't want

568
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.160
<v Speaker 2>to do the dirty work. He literally his rebounding rate

569
00:29:29.279 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>has declined significantly, right, Like, he's just not the active

570
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>guy that you know it used to be. He was

571
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>not the guy guarding Kawah I mean guarding Kyrie Irving

572
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 2>or Lupadancis.

573
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't that guy anymore. And so if there.

574
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Is a positive to losing Paul George, one is that

575
00:29:47.039 --> 00:29:50.319
<v Speaker 2>other guys get the opportunity to expand their wings a

576
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 2>bit as far as like what they could do on offense, right, Like,

577
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:54.559
<v Speaker 2>if Zu has.

578
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>That in him, he'll be able to display that.

579
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 2>If Terrence has a late twenties jump, he'll be able

580
00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to display that. But really it's the defensive side of

581
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 2>the ball, right, If you are replacing Paul George, you're

582
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>replacing him with Nico Batoum.

583
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>You're replacing him with.

584
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Derrick Jones Junior Chris Dunn can guard up and down

585
00:30:13.559 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>a few positions. It's an in conjunction with Terrence Mann

586
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and Kawhi Leonard, you all of a sudden have an

587
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>incredibly long and active defensive team, and on that side

588
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 2>of the ball, they should be much better.

589
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 3>He's not a guy who's rebounding anymore.

590
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>He's not a guy who's taking the big assignments consistently

591
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>on the defensive side of the ball. So I think

592
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.279
<v Speaker 2>we can be a bit more active without him. I

593
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 2>think that's fair to say. And yeah, I think Philly

594
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 2>who will learn that like Paul George is closer to three.

595
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And D than like Superstar. You know, and you know

596
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 3>it's it's a lot of money to pay for a.

597
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Guy who doesn't rebound anymore, and doesn't guard the team's

598
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.759
<v Speaker 2>best player anymore, and doesn't actually lead create for others anymore.

599
00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:02.839
<v Speaker 3>But that's another story.

600
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Your brother said he could easily make the argument that

601
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers got the better end of a pseudo trade. Basically,

602
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 1>with James Harden coming from Philly to the Clippers, with

603
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Paul George going to Philly from the Clippers. They weren't

604
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 1>traded for each other, but two players swapping teams. Would

605
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you agree with that that you could easily make the

606
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 1>argument that the Clippers got the better end of that deal. No, oh, interesting.

607
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 2>No, you know it's the and the reason why is

608
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>because Paul George, again, for all of his faults, he's

609
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.640
<v Speaker 2>still six ' nine. He's still going to be a

610
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 2>plus defender if just for his size alone, and he's

611
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>still very easy to plug and play right like you

612
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>can get you can you can design any sort of

613
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like offense, and he'll be able to fit right in

614
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>right like he can be a flour spacer, he can

615
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.640
<v Speaker 2>come off a single doubles, he can come off of

616
00:31:57.720 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>like your floppy action you can initiates. He brings way

617
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>more versatility on both sides of the ball than Harden.

618
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Even if Harden in the vacuum probably had a better

619
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>season than James Harden.

620
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I think on a macro level, I think.

621
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>If you're talking about like that hypothetical trade for each other,

622
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>the Clippers with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard would have

623
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 2>probably been better off for next season than Kawhi Leonard

624
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 2>and James Harden, simply because I just don't have the

625
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 2>faith that James Harden will be able to hold up

626
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 2>for the course of eighty two. So, like, if you're

627
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>telling me James Harden is going to play sixty five

628
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>plus games and maintain thirty eight percent from three.

629
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 3>And like forty four overall.

630
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>And give me eighteen to twenty a game of like

631
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 2>nine to ten assistant, yeah, definitely, But I just don't

632
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 2>think in his age thirty five season that's in the

633
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>cards for him, I value the last thirty eight games

634
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>very very much like and again, that doesn't get better

635
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.279
<v Speaker 2>as you get older, it only gets worse.

636
00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:03.880
<v Speaker 3>More likely than that so.

637
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Fun hypothetical, but I would probably choose Paul George not

638
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>for just pure raw talent, but more so bid or

639
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<v Speaker 2>Can and.

640
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Abel identical twins like justin Jamal, I don't think they were.

641
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to brush up on the old Testament here.

642
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I do want to ask about Norman Powell and how

643
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<v Speaker 1>large of a role he has to have to make

644
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 1>up for some of the shot making and shot creating.

645
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I know he's kind of a catch and shoot guy

646
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and then get it and go to his right for

647
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a quick layup, a quick decision maker on the offensive vent.

648
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't want him playing with his food too much

649
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>or taking too long and trying to get into his bag.

650
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.279
<v Speaker 1>But he is vital. It feels like coming into this

651
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 1>season and I've always felt like, well, Norm has a

652
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of limitations. He doesn't do much else well but score.

653
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to give him the Chris Carter treatment.

654
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>All he does is catch touchdowns or anything like that.

655
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Scoring.

656
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It turns out not all skills are created equal in

657
00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, and scoring is a really important one. And

658
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>he can hit some shots that are a high degree

659
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 1>of difficulty type shots. And he's had a forty point

660
00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>game in the playoffs for the Clippers. Just how important

661
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 1>and vital.

662
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.079
<v Speaker 3>Is he to this season now?

663
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I think over the course of eighty two games, he's

664
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>going to be vital because I don't I think with

665
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Paul George being absent, the margin for error is slimmer.

666
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 2>So games where you're playing against I don't know, a

667
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>healthy Charlotte Hornets team where you're thinking that's an easy

668
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 2>w those games are ten to twenty percent harder. And

669
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.199
<v Speaker 2>those are the games where you need Norm Pou to

670
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>just have a twenty two point game right where you

671
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:43.679
<v Speaker 2>can get away with his limitations because of the fact

672
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.119
<v Speaker 2>that they're like the Hornets or I don't know, the

673
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta Hawks or something like that. He becomes much tougher

674
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>to like to play heavy minutes against the actual good teams,

675
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 2>the teams that will require him to defend and rebound

676
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and things like that at which aren't his like strong suits.

677
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>But I think over the course of an eighty two

678
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 2>game season, what he brings in his value is very

679
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 2>similar to last year, honestly, as far as somebody who

680
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 2>can come off the bench and just move the chains

681
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>along for like a six minute shift to get some buckets,

682
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>but very But the way I look at Norm Powell

683
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 2>is this team's margin for error is just so short

684
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:29.000
<v Speaker 2>or just so small that like when we play teams

685
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that you think we're supposed to be, those are the

686
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.480
<v Speaker 2>games that are all of a sudden harder this year,

687
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 2>and if we're going to avoid the play in, those

688
00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>are games you cannot lose, right, Like, you have to

689
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.800
<v Speaker 2>win both games against the Hawks, you have to win

690
00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>both games against the Hornets, you have to win like

691
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 2>all three or four games against the Blazers that you're playing.

692
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:49.199
<v Speaker 3>You have to win your games.

693
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 2>Against the Jazz, And if you take care of your

694
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:56.239
<v Speaker 2>business in those games, that puts you almost right in

695
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the driver's seed, right because like hopefully you punk above

696
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>your weight class and steal some of these games against

697
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>these other great teams. But those are but those teams

698
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>that I mentioned are the teams you really want to

699
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 2>lock in on. And I think North poll is just

700
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>essential to those games because you can get away with

701
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>his weaknesses against those games and he can go a

702
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.679
<v Speaker 2>long way towards making sure that you win the game

703
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 2>that you're supposed to do.

704
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I brought up the coach Lou comment coming out of

705
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 1>a team in USA yesterday in an article by Ohm

706
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>for ESPN covering the Clippers, and that quote that he

707
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>had saying he can't wait to prove everybody wrong. Is

708
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 1>that meaningful to you? Like? Is that something that can

709
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>get them a few more wins just an even more

710
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.199
<v Speaker 1>motivated coach Lou Or is that just something that gives

711
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>fans a little bit more hope, a little something to

712
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>hold on to right now during a summer or still

713
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 1>got two more months before real game start?

714
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 3>She's two months Jesus.

715
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 1>About October third.

716
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean what he's supposed to say, right, like

717
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 2>like he sees everybody projecting that the Clippers are going

718
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 2>to miss the playoffs and we're gonna win forty forty

719
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:09.480
<v Speaker 2>two and forty like.

720
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>He sees it.

721
00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 2>So like, yeah, I mean, Tylo is a competitor, right like,

722
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:15.719
<v Speaker 2>he incan extension. He's gonna be here for a while,

723
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't want to coach a bad team. So

724
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.079
<v Speaker 2>I think with that quote, if you wanted to, if

725
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to take that that.

726
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 3>Take and that quote and really dig in deep.

727
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 2>It's the fact that he's going to chase wins more, right, Like,

728
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>this team's margin for era isn't such that like, Oh,

729
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm only gonna play Kawhi Leonard thirty two minutes tonight,

730
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Like you can't do that, like if you're serious about winning.

731
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.599
<v Speaker 3>So if you're trying, Like if we're gonna take.

732
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 2>That quote at face value and say, oh, he really

733
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>wants to prove people wrong, it's going to come with

734
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 2>like a chasing of wins, taking the regular season a

735
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 2>bit more seriously. And what I've learned is that alone

736
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 2>is responsible for three to five wins.

737
00:37:58.320 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Right.

738
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Just that approach every night that we have to win

739
00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>this game is is because not every team that are

740
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>playing is going to have that approach, right. Some some

741
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.400
<v Speaker 2>teams may may be like, oh, we'll take this day

742
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 2>off for this guy, or we're taking the long view.

743
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Because we have the talent to do so.

744
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 2>And in my opinion, I don't think the Clippers have

745
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.079
<v Speaker 2>the talent to take games for granted. And I think

746
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>that's what tylou is alluding to when he says we're

747
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>going to prove people wrong. So hopefully that quote suggests

748
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to take this season extremely seriously, and

749
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that votes well for the Clippers win total.

750
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 1>When you talk about playing to win every night, is

751
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>there a way to do that but still get some

752
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of these young guys with upside like we've seen from

753
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Miller run.

754
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 3>That's a tough one. That's tough. I think.

755
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I think Kobe is going to get an opportunity the

756
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>position exactly exactly that, but like you know, with the

757
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 2>way you're trying to chase wins, that'll be tough. But

758
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 2>like we know Kawhi Leonard isn't going to play every night,

759
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:11.320
<v Speaker 2>we know Niko Batoum isn't going to play every night

760
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 2>or play heavy minutes.

761
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.880
<v Speaker 3>So I don't immediately see.

762
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But that's what training campus for, right Like, that's what

763
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's doing. Jordan Miller's doing what he's supposed

764
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 2>to do to try and crack the rotation, and I

765
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 2>think he'll get his by sheer just being.

766
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.400
<v Speaker 3>On the team. He'll get his opportunity at some point.

767
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just hard to see it right now with the

768
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.519
<v Speaker 2>guys that are in front of him, and honestly, how

769
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.039
<v Speaker 2>serious the Clippers plan to take the regular season.

770
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.760
<v Speaker 1>If I told you the Clippers just trade for Zach Levine,

771
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>what seed are they in the West. They didn't.

772
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, they won't break something.

773
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I think you're a fan, like I am.

774
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm a I'm a cuge fan of Zach Levine, and

775
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and I think I think value and productivity sometimes gets underrated, right,

776
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:09.519
<v Speaker 2>like we tend to nick pick guys for what they

777
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:14.079
<v Speaker 2>can't do. That one is a great question, because are

778
00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>you giving me healthy Zach Lavine?

779
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like, he hasn't been healthy in a while, so like.

780
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's say he's good for sixty eight games a Kawhi.

781
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Leonard asked, sixty eight games, like we got at Kawhi

782
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>last season, and he is prime Zach Levine from a

783
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago.

784
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I put them top six.

785
00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>I put them top six, Like, yeah, I think if

786
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 2>you're giving me that version of zach Levine, then I'm

787
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely thinking I'm taking the high end on that

788
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 2>because unlike Paul George, right, like Paul George is the

789
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.119
<v Speaker 2>better player than Zach Levine, but Zach is someone who

790
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he'll get it up from three man, like he's a

791
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>he's a bona fide shooter like Paul George in that regard,

792
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to give you a little bit more

793
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:02.519
<v Speaker 2>of like pressure and a little bit more above the

794
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 2>rim activity.

795
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm I'm, I'm I'm rolling top six.

796
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.480
<v Speaker 2>If we were to get somebody like Zach Levine and

797
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>he takes so much pressure off of James Harden and

798
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi Leonard, which is probably my biggest concern going into

799
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 2>the season, is like we don't really have anyone else

800
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 2>that can take the pressure off of those guys.

801
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 3>They have to.

802
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Not only not only be play finishers, but they have

803
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>to create the man advantage for other people. And like

804
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.639
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be that's gonna be tough on them. Maybe

805
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:36.519
<v Speaker 2>not in the beginning of the season, but as we

806
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 2>get towards the dog days of the regular season and

807
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.159
<v Speaker 2>we're in Indiana right a good a really good Easterconference team, Like.

808
00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:46.639
<v Speaker 3>That's not that that game isn't gonna be easy, you

809
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:47.119
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean.

810
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.440
<v Speaker 2>So stuff like that is where I'm like, man, it'd

811
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.719
<v Speaker 2>be helpful if we if we replace Paul George with

812
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody who could at least approximate his scoring a.

813
00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Couple more for you here. Just you got into it

814
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 1>with some people talking about retiring Paul George's jersey. You

815
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.559
<v Speaker 1>said you put out the initial suite. You said, he's

816
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 1>not first in line with respect to getting his jersey retired,

817
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:15.079
<v Speaker 1>CP Blake eb. I agree with eb, but three time

818
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.280
<v Speaker 1>All Star, one time All NBA twenty seven to ten

819
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:21.079
<v Speaker 1>five in routes of the franchise only Western Conference Finals

820
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:23.679
<v Speaker 1>playoff run feels like very close to a no brainer.

821
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.320
<v Speaker 1>NBA teams retire guys jerseys for far less. I agree

822
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.440
<v Speaker 1>with you. I don't think people understand what it takes

823
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to get in the NBA Hall of Fame and what

824
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it takes to get your jersey retired in the NBA.

825
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>The bar is much lower than people realized, because a

826
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys were pushing back against that, saying is

827
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>that really enough? Well, I think for this franchise, it's

828
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>probably more than enough. He's a top five Clipper, ever, right,

829
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I I.

830
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:53.679
<v Speaker 2>The way I see it, right, So, retiring jerseys is

831
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:58.199
<v Speaker 2>teams specific, right, they have their own criteria. The Lakers,

832
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 2>for instance, you don't get her jersey retired until you

833
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 2>make the Hall of Fame, right, you have to make

834
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame to get your jersey retired if

835
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>you're if you're an LA Laker. That's why Michael Cooper,

836
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.119
<v Speaker 2>once he got into the Hall of Fame, is now

837
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 2>getting his jersey retired. But that's not the Clippers, right,

838
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Like you retire your team's great players. So like if

839
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>you only have one Western Conference final in your entire

840
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.679
<v Speaker 2>team's history, you have to retire the guy who was

841
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 2>a three time All Star for you and played on

842
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>that team and at a fantastic playoff.

843
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Run to get you there. I don't I don't even understand.

844
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 2>How anyone can push back against that, Like what are

845
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>we doing if the best player on that team's playoff run,

846
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>who got who made All NBA with you, who made

847
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:45.360
<v Speaker 2>three All Star Games with you?

848
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.119
<v Speaker 3>What are we doing if that guy can't.

849
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Get his jersey retired for the Clippers with all the

850
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.320
<v Speaker 2>rest like the Clippers are like the Clippers are my team.

851
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.039
<v Speaker 2>I will I went to the sports arena to watch

852
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>games there, right, I was a junior Clipper playing at

853
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Normandy Park, like way before, way before when they were

854
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>sponsored by like this Savici Motors back in the day,

855
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, like.

856
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 3>That this is my this is my team, it's my home.

857
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.000
<v Speaker 3>But like you take their history, it just doesn't make

858
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:15.920
<v Speaker 3>sense that you would not retire.

859
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>That guy who's who's a infidal part of the team's

860
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>most successful season ever and even beyond that season, multiple

861
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 2>All Star Games, all NBA's like over six thousand points.

862
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Like if you just put his resume up against the

863
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.800
<v Speaker 2>other Clippers, I guarantee you don't find that many ahead

864
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of him, you know. So, Like I said, I don't

865
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:37.639
<v Speaker 2>think he would be first in line. He wouldn't be

866
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the first guy that I would call, but he definitely

867
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:44.639
<v Speaker 2>would be on the short list. Easy, easy, without question.

868
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even thinking about it, like like no brainer

869
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 2>is for sure.

870
00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Blake Griffin, I think is first on the speed dial for.

871
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 3>The y.

872
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>It should be against the Suns on the twenty fifth,

873
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 2>like we should do it, like open it into a

874
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>dome that way, like that's how easy that is. And

875
00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Chris Paul too, like I I don't. I don't see

876
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.079
<v Speaker 2>those guys obviously, those they're rarefied air for what they've

877
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 2>done for this franchise. So I don't think no one

878
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:15.119
<v Speaker 2>would get pushed back for retiring their jerseys.

879
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:16.559
<v Speaker 3>At least I don't think but.

880
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't understand why you wouldn't retire Paul Georgia.

881
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 3>What is the argument against it? I don't even understand it.

882
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>He's called him the B team. Uh. If he continues

883
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 1>to do that, maybe have second thoughts because he didn't

884
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 1>end things well. And yeah, there's a real sour taste. Currently,

885
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 1>you got to get further away from the situation. It

886
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>just happened. It's too raw, So I can understand from

887
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:44.639
<v Speaker 1>that perspective, But long term, I think it's a no brainer.

888
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, what are you most hyped for when

889
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the end to it?

890
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:56.599
<v Speaker 4>Don't in those bleed seats you want. You won't be

891
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 4>bleeding at all, man, right, exactly like I think.

892
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:09.840
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm more excited about the intimacy of it, right,

893
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Like I've only been there.

894
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:13.159
<v Speaker 3>My brother has been there more than me.

895
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.519
<v Speaker 2>But the one time that I went the arena struck

896
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.599
<v Speaker 2>me for how intimate it felt relative to for Bill

897
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 2>dot Com arena, Like the everything feels way more closer

898
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>to the game and like way more on top of

899
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>the game. And so I'm excited to get to a

900
00:46:33.400 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 2>game where the crowd is live and I can just

901
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:40.079
<v Speaker 2>imagine how pulsating, and how wow that's gonna be in

902
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 2>comparison to the advantage or the lack of advantage that

903
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 2>we had in that regard. So I'm anticipating that, Like

904
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I think the way that the arena has built, the

905
00:46:50.159 --> 00:46:53.599
<v Speaker 2>intimacy of it all can only benefit the Clippers, And

906
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>so I'm really looking forward to what it sounds like when.

907
00:46:57.639 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 3>We've got a packed house and like.

908
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Everyone is rooting against like this will be the first

909
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 2>time in a long time. I remember I went to

910
00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Game six Clippers Jazz and that was the loudest I've

911
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>ever heard a Clipper game, and that was incredible. And

912
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 2>so I think the into a dome can be because

913
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 2>of the way it's built. I think we can top that.

914
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 2>And if we top that, I think we could have

915
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.679
<v Speaker 2>one of the best arenas in the league. So I'm

916
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to it. That's what I'm looking forward to

917
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the most.

918
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.199
<v Speaker 1>What about too, though, Well, that game makes me think

919
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.280
<v Speaker 1>that still wasn't even full capacity that Game six. There

920
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>were still some restrictions going on that I've been saying

921
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing. What I can't wait for is

922
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.280
<v Speaker 1>everyone to find out at once how loud the arena

923
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 1>can get And I made this prediction with your brother

924
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and he agreed with me. So as I try to

925
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.039
<v Speaker 1>drive the wedge further between you guys, I want to

926
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 1>see where you arrive on this. But I think it's

927
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 1>going to get to a higher decibel level than any

928
00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>other arena in the NBA. I don't know how long

929
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna stay there every night, but I think at

930
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.199
<v Speaker 1>its best, at its loudest, it's gonna get to places

931
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.039
<v Speaker 1>no other arena can get to. Because Brian Semen said

932
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 1>they had six thousand people scattered in there, and it

933
00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was that something like one hundred and twenty decibels. One

934
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.840
<v Speaker 1>forty is a jet engine, one hundred and twenty. I

935
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 1>remember Arco Arena when it was loud. That was one tag.

936
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So I think it's built for this sound

937
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 1>and having a real home court advantage.

938
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, yeah, I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know that.

939
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Right as far as what you just said about how

940
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:37.400
<v Speaker 2>loud it's already gotten with Brian and there, so I'm

941
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe obviously Utah can get pretty loud.

942
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay, soe he's loud.

943
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But like given the fact that this arena is

944
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 2>the newest of them all, and we're taking inspiration from

945
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 2>those arenas, and like, you know, there's the whole wall thing.

946
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:56.480
<v Speaker 3>We got the wall going.

947
00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I got to I got to take my

948
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.800
<v Speaker 2>seat at the wall just to see and why it's steep.

949
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 2>It's incredibly steep, Like it's it's crazy, you.

950
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Felt like John Snow, Yeah, I'm on my watch here.

951
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:13.199
<v Speaker 3>It's sharp today. Man, nice, that's nice today.

952
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm look listen, I think at its best, at

953
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 2>its peak performance.

954
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 3>Right Like, if we were to get into the playoffs next.

955
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Year, there's no doubt in my mind we'd have the

956
00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 2>loudest arena in the league, almost by bar. And you know,

957
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:29.840
<v Speaker 2>for the for the fact that you could say that

958
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 2>about a Clippers home arena is like still kind of

959
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 2>like jarring to to like to take into take into account.

960
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm that's what I'm most anticipating, and like, yeah,

961
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.559
<v Speaker 2>we we we got to get to we got to

962
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.000
<v Speaker 2>get to one forty decibels jet engine level. Baby, No, still,

963
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:46.639
<v Speaker 2>let's do it.

964
00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:48.760
<v Speaker 3>Of inglewood.

965
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, Laker fans are punching air right now, and

966
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.000
<v Speaker 1>all sound is is vibration in the air. So they're

967
00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 1>just punching the sound, trying to fight back against the

968
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 1>loudest that the clipper, that Clipper Nation is going to

969
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>create into its elm last one for you here justin

970
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I never didn't ask your brother this one. Uh, best

971
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and worst thing about being an identical twin. I can't

972
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 1>get the Morris brothers on for this one, so I.

973
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Figured, honestly, honestly, it's the the best and worst thing

974
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 2>is probably the exact same answer, which is that he

975
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 2>knows he knows everything about me, like like and sometimes

976
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:37.119
<v Speaker 2>that can be pretty annoying, you know, like like every

977
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.079
<v Speaker 2>all of our tastes is the exact same and literally

978
00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 2>virtually everything.

979
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:41.880
<v Speaker 3>It's almost like.

980
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 1>Not James Harden, yeah.

981
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, but like I do love James Harden,

982
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 2>though I do.

983
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 3>I do.

984
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 2>That's Arteasers. That's Arteaser's finest right there. And I saw

985
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 2>him as a senior in high school. I was just

986
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 2>blown away how good he was.

987
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:59.039
<v Speaker 3>But no Beard, yeah, yeah, yeah, he had he was crazy.

988
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's the best and worst thing is the

989
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:04.679
<v Speaker 2>fact that, like, you know, I feel like I'm walking

990
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.119
<v Speaker 2>with someone who just imagine if you had someone else

991
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.239
<v Speaker 2>out there who was socialized in the exact same way

992
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 2>as you. So everything you experience at the exact same

993
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:18.800
<v Speaker 2>ages throughout your life he experiences as well. So like

994
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>you come to love the same music you love, you

995
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>come to love the same women. Everything is like everything

996
00:51:25.239 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 2>all of the taste is just like exactly the same.

997
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:34.440
<v Speaker 2>And so getting married, by the way, I guess that's

998
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>one difference of ours.

999
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:37.719
<v Speaker 3>Like oh yeah, yeah, he loves her.

1000
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not the I'm not the biggest fan,

1001
00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 2>but she's a She's a gorgeous gal. And I met

1002
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Dave mcminnimon once and he was great to be so

1003
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.199
<v Speaker 2>best wishes to their marriage. But like, yeah, he's a

1004
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.360
<v Speaker 2>he'd be fan of he fans out over Malik Andrews.

1005
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't get it, but like.

1006
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen them at a few different times too.

1007
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah those are those are those are his Speaking of

1008
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:06.119
<v Speaker 2>getting jerseys retired, he retired their jerseys right in his house.

1009
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:07.480
<v Speaker 3>He would definitely do it.

1010
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 2>So I'm sure this is going to get back to Jamal,

1011
00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.320
<v Speaker 2>but like, yeah, he retires in Data's jersey and the Heartbeat,

1012
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:14.840
<v Speaker 2>no doubt.

1013
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 1>Tom Hall on look out, I think that's Spider Man's name.

1014
00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 3>He is justin.

1015
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Wilson at La Clippers Film is where you find him,

1016
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 1>and he was the perfect guy to close out this

1017
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.159
<v Speaker 1>week and Clippers Talk episodes. Unless there's breaking news tomorrow

1018
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 1>or this weekend. I'm going to do a Terrence Man

1019
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 1>deep dive coming up. I think I'll release on Monday.

1020
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't care it's a holiday. I'm gonna get something

1021
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>else out there. I'm trying to be like locked on

1022
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:43.119
<v Speaker 1>or something. Just get out as many pods as I

1023
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.840
<v Speaker 1>can right now before the season starts. I figured this

1024
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.199
<v Speaker 1>will be the hardest work. Once the season starts, there's stories,

1025
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.079
<v Speaker 1>more game recaps and really.

1026
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, man is a struggle in the summer.

1027
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 1>This is cake too. I just bring on great guests

1028
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>like Justin Wilson and Jamal Christopher. I just sit back,

1029
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:03.880
<v Speaker 1>can listen and enjoy the ride. Justin, thanks for doing this.

1030
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Is there anywhere else people need to be following you.

1031
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:13.280
<v Speaker 2>At Maybe maybe maybe in the future, we'll see if

1032
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 2>we can figure out some things. But that is that

1033
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:19.760
<v Speaker 2>is uh, that's something that's been.

1034
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 3>In the worst for a while. We got to see

1035
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:22.800
<v Speaker 3>if that can actually get off the ground.

1036
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.760
<v Speaker 1>But JJ is out of the podcast game, so Jay

1037
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and j JJ Reddicks out. You guys got to take over.

1038
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe I can get a head coaching job right after.

1039
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, you never know, but we'll see La Clippers

1040
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>film on Twitter. Reach out to me if I'm not

1041
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'd like to think that I'm kind on there

1042
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 2>if if you guys are kind to me, so reach out.

1043
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Let me know what's up. Man Clipper.

1044
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 1>You know he is Justin Wilson. For Justin Wilson. I'm

1045
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Adam Moslin. This has been another edition of Clippers Talk.

1046
00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Love you guys, Talk to you soon.