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Welcome in former BYU great super Bowl Champion. We got

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Brady Papinga on the line.

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Speaker 1: Beat Pop. How you living? Brother? What's that?

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Speaker 4: Man? Gond It always jump on with you Mary, Mary?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year? What did?

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Speaker 3: What are some of the traditions that the Peppinga family

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engage in over Christmas Eve and into Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Well, I need a lot of prime rent. Man. We

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go to this place called Lowry's and Beverly Hills where

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they have this cut called the Ballcot. It's like, I

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don't know twenty four ounces of prime red. Dude, I

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just pound that like it's no tomorrow. And then we

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got to this really fun play that's like a musical

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gosh kind of like uh fat tire play for it was.

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This one was like a Christmas one. But you know,

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it's it's great. It's got you know, people that used

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to be in Seinfeld American Idol on there. So it's

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really entertaining interact with the fans. Uh you know, they

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tell the story of Wizard of Oz, but more a

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Christmas uh you know kind of vibe. And then you know,

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it's very there's a lot of comedy and like I said,

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a lot of familiar people like you know, you know

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doctor I think his name is mister Peterman with Seinfeld.

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Speaker 1: You ever you guys ever watched Seinfeld Peterman Seinfeld? Yes,

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Speaker 3: My dad's a massive fan of of Seinfeld and he

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inculcated me, taught me the ways.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he was like the main guy, you know.

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So he's got that that voice, that's like got that cadence.

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He talks very regal, and but it's very fantastic, you know,

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it's it's very good. It was it was good, so

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you know that's what we do. Then we just hang

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out and be a family, you know, think of the

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reason for the season.

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Speaker 1: You know it.

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Speaker 3: Well, God bless you and the ping of family. Appreciate

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hopping on to talk some ball. It's been a crazy

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last I don't know, seventy two hours the last week

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have been. He's been pretty crazy. Is Kyle Whitningham got

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the job at the University of Michigan. Your reaction to

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that news, Kyle getting the job being essentially what seems

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to be kind of ushered out. I don't know if

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he I think he's gone on reckon. He said he

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felt like he was treated fairly, but that he was

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the right time to maybe step down to let Morgan

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Scalley take over at the University of Utah and to

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go into the coaching transferportal.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, your reaction, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's it's one of those things that goes against my principles,

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so it doesn't make sense. And my principle is simply,

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if you have an all time great coach that has

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still got it, which obviously he does based off of

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how they performed this year, you ride that guy to

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either he's sick or tired of being there or else.

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seemed to me, based off of his comments and that

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he's now at Michigan, that he's not sick of coaching,

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still got it. So I don't. I don't get it.

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guess I could. I get their thinking what they're doing,

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which is they like Morgan, and they think Morgan's doing

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gonna do a good job, which he could very well

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be phenomenal, but we don't know. He's untested, and it's

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just principally speaking, doesn't really match my principles. So I'm

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not really in agreement with it. I don't really think

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it's principally and fundamentally very sound. But time will tell

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if if it is or not. But but I think

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we're you know, Kyle Whittingham ended up as awesome. I'm

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gonna go to show you that he's still still highly respected,

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and we'll see how he performs the Michigan I think

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they're gonna do very well. With the offensive scheme that

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Jason Beck will bring, the kind of caliber players they

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can get up in Michigan, the the investment and the

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commitment they make to their football program, I think he's

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gonna do very good up there.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't been announced that Jason Beck is taking the job,

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but he has been listed as a priority candidate to

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take over the offensive coordinating dute.

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Speaker 1: He's Jay Hill has been named.

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Speaker 3: As a high priority defensive coordinator maybe assistant head coach

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for Kyle Whittingham. Do you think what what acquisitions do

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you think Kyle Whittingham's gonna get?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he gets both of those guys there

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in ann Arbor?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think, Well, the reason why I hadn't been

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affirmed yet is the both Jason and j I would

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speculator negotiating and they're using each squall against each other,

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which they should and get the most out of it

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in terms of the amount that they'll get paid. And

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their guilt too means something. You know, it's not just

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getting paid, it's also having certain resources. And you know,

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maybe with Kyle Whittingham too, if you're if you're Jay,

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you're looking at like, you know what this is the

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guy that's probably gonna max be there five years and

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then probably right off into the sunset. So let's see

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if I can position myself to kind of just be

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that natural next guy in line, kind of like Morgan's galley.

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that takes leverage and and if they don't give that

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to him, then he could play that with what's going

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on in YU maybe and just let know, like, look,

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I'm happy to BYU. I don't need to leave YU,

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stay where I'm at. Same with Jason. You know, I'm

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sure Morgan would love to have Jason be there for

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his second season. I mean, that's phenomenal in this first season,

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the turnaround he had on that offense, and just everybody

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knows most times, but that kind of improvement does not

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happen until the second season, and the second season is

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usually the biggest uptick. So I mean, if I'm Morgan,

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I'd be doing everything I could. I mean, I'd be like, hey,

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that five hundred million that we're that we're getting that

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from that private equity and we have access to that

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because I'd like to spend some of that on Jason

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Beck and make him the top paid offensive coach in

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the country. If that's that's that's that's how good he is.

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and I think, and as we've seen from these last

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few weeks, anything can happen. I don't think it's a

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fourg on conclusion that either one of those guys go

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to Michigan's. Michigan they have the funds, look, Yu and

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you Tall have the funds now. So, like I said,

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it's not a foregone conclusion. But with how desperate Michigan

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is right now to say face to get on track

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to look different than they have been with the scandal

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they had to go through with it was kind of

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egg on their face with their previous head coach, I

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would think that they're going to be more of a

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desperation mode than both Buyu and Utah would be.

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Speaker 3: A Rod deserves probably a pay raise, and I'm sure

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he's being courted. I've been told you know that that

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Scaley and a Rod have been in conversations, and there's

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some conversing there are what are the chances maybe a

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Rod takes his tunce back to Salt Lake City. Now

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that Kyle Winningham is out and Morgan Scalley's at.

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Speaker 4: The helm, well, I mean you can there's a point

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anybody to where you get thrown a certain amount of money.

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It's irresponsible to pass it up, especially if you're not

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getting that in another stream of income. So yeah, I

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mean there is a threshold of money if they threw

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out him that they could probably get him there just

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because you know, you got, like I said, just out

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of reasonability. But having said that, if you're Roderick, you

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just had historically one of the greatest offensive seasons in

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my opinion, the Buyu's had, maybe ever, because there's never

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been a quarterback this young, come in this late and

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is done as well as as Bear has, and his

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performance against Georgia Tech was special. That was not normal.

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I hope people understand that that was not normal. I

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don't know how many quarterbacks under the circumstances. Let's say,

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let's let's try to go through and let's say Jim

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McMahon his ankle beat up like that. I don't know

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if he's as effectives as Bear was in dicing up

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that defense. I don't know that's how good he played.

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And if you guys were watching the game, that Georgia

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Tech defensive coordinator threw everything at Bear, zero blitzes, overload, pressures,

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stimulated pressures, everything he could and what did Bear do?

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He surgically diced it up. So you have that, And

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if you're Roderick, that's like, oh, you don't have something

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like that at Utah. Now maybe you have a plan

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where you're like, Hey, I go to utaher bring Bear

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with me. But I don't think he's going to be

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easily walking up to Utah. So I got someone to

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answer your question with a lot of different thoughts. I

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don't think that's very likely whatsoever. Roderick deserves a huge

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pay rays, he deserves to be respected, and I'm sure

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he's excited to see what he and Barrett can do

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with a full off season to customize this offense, to

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detail out its nuances. Because Bear is way more advanced

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than Jake was than I'd even say Zach Wilson was

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then Jaren Hall was. Barrett could go down as one

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of the all time great quarterbacks at By. Just to

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put everybody, put that out there.

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Speaker 1: For everybody.

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Speaker 3: Now it's it's an interesting dynamic right now, and you

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wonder which domino will fall first and what reactions will

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will then ensue from that within the BYU side of things,

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what Kalani's looking for.

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Speaker 1: Let's say j Hill does go, and let's say a

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Rod goes.

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Speaker 3: You wonder if Jason Beck would be a candidate then,

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and you know, they could be able to competition to

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bring in Jason as the OC at b YU. Do

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you think, b Y, you would look at that if

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a Rod takes his talents elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: Look, I don't think a Rd's going anywhere, So I

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can't even I can't even look at I don't even

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know what that means, Bed, and I can't imagine that.

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That just doesn't make sense to my logic and reasoning,

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and especially with all this fanfare we had a few

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weeks ago with Klannie making sure that he was courted

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and that they gave him, you know, the at least

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the commitment to invest the resources necessary to keep BYU successful,

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keep this momentum going. And I mean that would be

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just it'd be equivalent it's allowing Klannie go to Penn State.

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doesn't make any sense, So I can't even like talk

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about that. The only thing I can think of as

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excited I am to see Bear and Aaron continue their

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relationship and to see Behar continue to grow and get

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healthy again. And when he has his running ability without

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throwing ability, how scary good that's gonna be for us,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's a great opportunity.

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Speaker 3: One of the things I pointed out to BYU fans,

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and I wanted to get your take on this, Brady,

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obviously you need great coaches at BYU to do elite things.

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to three seasons, we've seen BAU assemble the most well resourced,

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most experienced, and most collectively talented defensive staff in program history.

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this has ever been like a one man operation. I

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think there's an interconnected system, synergistic system, shared philosophy, continuity,

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institutional knowledge as well of BYU that led to a

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lot of success here. BYU has built what Boa is built.

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I don't think it's fragile. I don't think it topples

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so easily as some think with coaching staff attrition. I

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think the Boa brand, the culture supersedes maybe the abilities

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and talents of anyone coach. Coaches are gonna move on,

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we know that, but I think the infrastructure, standards and

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institution that drives them remain firmly in prey place that culture.

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And then BAH has said four different head coaches since

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nineteen seventy two, They've overachieved for those fifty plus years

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versus their roster talent and their coaching talent. In many ways,

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by has won more games per dollars spent than any

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other college football program in the country during those fifty

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plus years that their top ten and wins, and I

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think by you will continue to win more now than

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ever because of that institutional brand P four affiliation and

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the resources that come from that. It's a robust data

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set that should lead to optimism rather than fear amongst sugarnation.

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, well, I mean you got to realize too.

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spearheaded by Clonie. I mean, Clone's one of the most

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forward thinking geniuses. I've been around in a long time.

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What it has to do with team building and then

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how to manage byu. He has mastered that. I don't

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know if you got I mean this was when he

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first got there. I was very vocally and publicly critical

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of Clonnie, of the staff, of the performance of the team.

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And Clannie was cool man. He had texted me and said, hey,

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why don't we come and sit down and go over

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some of the stuff. And he wasn't sitting down talking

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to me like, oh, I'm going to go on this

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defense mode and help Brady understand what we're dealing with

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so that he can shut up. He grabbed this is

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what Colonie does. He grabs a pad and a pen.

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And he's like, so, what's what he's like? So explain

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to me, like, what is your you know, your major

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critique of what we're doing. And I started talking. I

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just started just listing him and look, it wasn't personal,

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just as a matter of fact, and he starts writing

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stuff down. You know, here we are fast forward. We

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got one of the most robust, like you talk about

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it the performance training facility in terms of its organizations,

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Kolbe and then he got Ryan and their staff and

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how to all that was? That was Colonnie. You know,

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Klannie was the one that's like, you know what, because

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that was my biggest gripe about it, right, was the performance.

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And he goes and he builds this hierarchy of performance

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to where everybody has to answer to Colbe and Skyler.

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But then they use their expertise in Skylar and science

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Cobe and his physical therapy, and they fuse it together

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to create what I would I don't remember a three

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year stretch where you've had this little of non contact

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kind of injuries on any team that I've ever been with.

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It's remarkable. And then the Sea guys get stronger as

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your goes on stay fast. I mean against Georgia Deck.

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them out in addition to finally coming and playing with

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emergency in the second half, but there was a very

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clear point in that game where they were on their heels,

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we were fresh, and we were starting to run through

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them based off of our conditioning. The point is is

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Klonnie he built that based off of feedback that he got,

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and he's not That's not only the only spot. He's

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done that in multiple other spots to prepare. For example,

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Colnnie knew from day one. Just everybody understands, colnnie knew

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Jay was most likely going to go to Greener Pastors.

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Jay's the head coaching personality. Now he may stay. I'm

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not saying he's gone, but Clonie knew that. Clonie knew

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where Jay's goals were, just like any coach you know,

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and Jay, and Clonie knows Jay's capabilities, and he's like,

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you know what, probably he's gonna He's going to have

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an opportunity to continue and further his career, which he should.

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And I think Colonnie looks at as an opportunity to

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help these guys and he made he built the structure

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to handle that so that if and when Jay leaves,

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there's people in place to account for that and to

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account for his amazing abilities. And so, yeah, this isn't

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all of a sudden off, Carl, Oh wow, I don't

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know what's going on. Now. I know this guy, he's

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had this plan over the last three to four years

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of what he would vision envision the program becoming. And

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he's fully prepared for and like I said, and he's

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been prepared in spite of what you already mentioned, Ben

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of the limited resources. This the kind of you know,

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sitting on the fence of really being committed to the

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football team. He's banished that perfectly to where I think

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right now that's no longer the case, but we'll see.

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And so that's the key is you got Klanie. He's learned,

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he's figured this out. He's got a plan in place,

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and uh, none of this is going none of us

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throws his plan in the air and makes it all

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of a sudden something that he has to just you know,

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figure out. Again, this is all part of the deal.

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So as long as Klanne's there and his plan continues

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to move forward, which it will, we're fine, ladies and gentlemen.

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This is and it's like Colonnie says, and I will

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reiterate what he says. This is a great thing that

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people are trying to come pick you know, players and

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coaches off of our rosters. Now it's just up to us,

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as as Boyu and the support staff to retain the

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talent the best we can. And then those that want

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to progress their careers, let them go progress their careers

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to have you know, contingency plans in place to account

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for the bustice in which Colnnie already does. This isn't

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like I said, This isn't like he's being caught off guard.

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Speaker 3: Here, Brady ppinga Ladies and gentlemen beat pop. We got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I kind of was feeling that way too.

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