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Speaker 1: Beat Pop. How you living? Brother? What's that?
Speaker 4: Man? Gond It always jump on with you Mary, Mary?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year? What did?
Speaker 3: What are some of the traditions that the Peppinga family
engage in over Christmas Eve and into Christmas?
Speaker 4: Well, I need a lot of prime rent. Man. We
go to this place called Lowry's and Beverly Hills where
they have this cut called the Ballcot. It's like, I
don't know twenty four ounces of prime red. Dude, I
just pound that like it's no tomorrow. And then we
got to this really fun play that's like a musical
gosh kind of like uh fat tire play for it was.
This one was like a Christmas one. But you know,
it's it's great. It's got you know, people that used
to be in Seinfeld American Idol on there. So it's
really entertaining interact with the fans. Uh you know, they
tell the story of Wizard of Oz, but more a
Christmas uh you know kind of vibe. And then you know,
it's very there's a lot of comedy and like I said,
a lot of familiar people like you know, you know
doctor I think his name is mister Peterman with Seinfeld.
Speaker 1: You ever you guys ever watched Seinfeld Peterman Seinfeld? Yes,
I have.
Speaker 3: My dad's a massive fan of of Seinfeld and he
inculcated me, taught me the ways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's he was like the main guy, you know.
So he's got that that voice, that's like got that cadence.
He talks very regal, and but it's very fantastic, you know,
it's it's very good. It was it was good, so
you know that's what we do. Then we just hang
out and be a family, you know, think of the
reason for the season.
Speaker 1: You know it.
Speaker 3: Well, God bless you and the ping of family. Appreciate
hopping on to talk some ball. It's been a crazy
last I don't know, seventy two hours the last week
have been. He's been pretty crazy. Is Kyle Whitningham got
the job at the University of Michigan. Your reaction to
that news, Kyle getting the job being essentially what seems
to be kind of ushered out. I don't know if
he I think he's gone on reckon. He said he
felt like he was treated fairly, but that he was
the right time to maybe step down to let Morgan
Scalley take over at the University of Utah and to
go into the coaching transferportal.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, your reaction, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: It's it's one of those things that goes against my principles,
so it doesn't make sense. And my principle is simply,
if you have an all time great coach that has
still got it, which obviously he does based off of
how they performed this year, you ride that guy to
either he's sick or tired of being there or else.
He's not effective anymore in my opinion, And obviously it
seemed to me, based off of his comments and that
he's now at Michigan, that he's not sick of coaching,
he's not thick of specifically being at Utah, and like
I said, based off of their performances last year, he
still got it. So I don't. I don't get it.
I don't get their thinking. I mean, I get I
guess I could. I get their thinking what they're doing,
which is they like Morgan, and they think Morgan's doing
gonna do a good job, which he could very well
be phenomenal, but we don't know. He's untested, and it's
just principally speaking, doesn't really match my principles. So I'm
not really in agreement with it. I don't really think
it's principally and fundamentally very sound. But time will tell
if if it is or not. But but I think
we're you know, Kyle Whittingham ended up as awesome. I'm
gonna go to show you that he's still still highly respected,
and we'll see how he performs the Michigan I think
they're gonna do very well. With the offensive scheme that
Jason Beck will bring, the kind of caliber players they
can get up in Michigan, the the investment and the
commitment they make to their football program, I think he's
gonna do very good up there.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: It hasn't been announced that Jason Beck is taking the job,
but he has been listed as a priority candidate to
take over the offensive coordinating dute.
Speaker 1: He's Jay Hill has been named.
Speaker 3: As a high priority defensive coordinator maybe assistant head coach
for Kyle Whittingham. Do you think what what acquisitions do
you think Kyle Whittingham's gonna get?
Speaker 1: Do you think he gets both of those guys there
in ann Arbor?
Speaker 4: Well, I think, Well, the reason why I hadn't been
affirmed yet is the both Jason and j I would
speculator negotiating and they're using each squall against each other,
which they should and get the most out of it
in terms of the amount that they'll get paid. And
their guilt too means something. You know, it's not just
getting paid, it's also having certain resources. And you know,
maybe with Kyle Whittingham too, if you're if you're Jay,
you're looking at like, you know what this is the
guy that's probably gonna max be there five years and
then probably right off into the sunset. So let's see
if I can position myself to kind of just be
that natural next guy in line, kind of like Morgan's galley.
And so maybe he's positioning his contract as such and
that takes leverage and and if they don't give that
to him, then he could play that with what's going
on in YU maybe and just let know, like, look,
I'm happy to BYU. I don't need to leave YU,
So if you don't want to do it, I'll just
stay where I'm at. Same with Jason. You know, I'm
sure Morgan would love to have Jason be there for
his second season. I mean, that's phenomenal in this first season,
the turnaround he had on that offense, and just everybody
knows most times, but that kind of improvement does not
happen until the second season, and the second season is
usually the biggest uptick. So I mean, if I'm Morgan,
I'd be doing everything I could. I mean, I'd be like, hey,
that five hundred million that we're that we're getting that
from that private equity and we have access to that
because I'd like to spend some of that on Jason
Beck and make him the top paid offensive coach in
the country. If that's that's that's that's how good he is.
So I think that's what's happening. There's a lot of postering,
and I think, and as we've seen from these last
few weeks, anything can happen. I don't think it's a
fourg on conclusion that either one of those guys go
to Michigan's. Michigan they have the funds, look, Yu and
you Tall have the funds now. So, like I said,
it's not a foregone conclusion. But with how desperate Michigan
is right now to say face to get on track
to look different than they have been with the scandal
they had to go through with it was kind of
egg on their face with their previous head coach, I
would think that they're going to be more of a
desperation mode than both Buyu and Utah would be.
Speaker 3: A Rod deserves probably a pay raise, and I'm sure
he's being courted. I've been told you know that that
Scaley and a Rod have been in conversations, and there's
some conversing there are what are the chances maybe a
Rod takes his tunce back to Salt Lake City. Now
that Kyle Winningham is out and Morgan Scalley's at.
Speaker 4: The helm, well, I mean you can there's a point
anybody to where you get thrown a certain amount of money.
It's irresponsible to pass it up, especially if you're not
getting that in another stream of income. So yeah, I
mean there is a threshold of money if they threw
out him that they could probably get him there just
because you know, you got, like I said, just out
of reasonability. But having said that, if you're Roderick, you
just had historically one of the greatest offensive seasons in
my opinion, the Buyu's had, maybe ever, because there's never
been a quarterback this young, come in this late and
is done as well as as Bear has, and his
performance against Georgia Tech was special. That was not normal.
I hope people understand that that was not normal. I
don't know how many quarterbacks under the circumstances. Let's say,
let's let's try to go through and let's say Jim
McMahon his ankle beat up like that. I don't know
if he's as effectives as Bear was in dicing up
that defense. I don't know that's how good he played.
And if you guys were watching the game, that Georgia
Tech defensive coordinator threw everything at Bear, zero blitzes, overload, pressures,
stimulated pressures, everything he could and what did Bear do?
He surgically diced it up. So you have that, And
if you're Roderick, that's like, oh, you don't have something
like that at Utah. Now maybe you have a plan
where you're like, Hey, I go to utaher bring Bear
with me. But I don't think he's going to be
easily walking up to Utah. So I got someone to
answer your question with a lot of different thoughts. I
don't think that's very likely whatsoever. Roderick deserves a huge
pay rays, he deserves to be respected, and I'm sure
he's excited to see what he and Barrett can do
with a full off season to customize this offense, to
detail out its nuances. Because Bear is way more advanced
than Jake was than I'd even say Zach Wilson was
then Jaren Hall was. Barrett could go down as one
of the all time great quarterbacks at By. Just to
put everybody, put that out there.
Speaker 1: For everybody.
Speaker 3: Now it's it's an interesting dynamic right now, and you
wonder which domino will fall first and what reactions will
will then ensue from that within the BYU side of things,
what Kalani's looking for.
Speaker 1: Let's say j Hill does go, and let's say a
Rod goes.
Speaker 3: You wonder if Jason Beck would be a candidate then,
and you know, they could be able to competition to
bring in Jason as the OC at b YU. Do
you think, b Y, you would look at that if
a Rod takes his talents elsewhere.
Speaker 4: Look, I don't think a Rd's going anywhere, So I
can't even I can't even look at I don't even
know what that means, Bed, and I can't imagine that.
That just doesn't make sense to my logic and reasoning,
and especially with all this fanfare we had a few
weeks ago with Klannie making sure that he was courted
and that they gave him, you know, the at least
the commitment to invest the resources necessary to keep BYU successful,
keep this momentum going. And I mean that would be
just it'd be equivalent it's allowing Klannie go to Penn State.
You know what I'm saying. It's like it just this
doesn't make any sense, So I can't even like talk
about that. The only thing I can think of as
excited I am to see Bear and Aaron continue their
relationship and to see Behar continue to grow and get
healthy again. And when he has his running ability without
throwing ability, how scary good that's gonna be for us,
How scary that's going to be the defend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's a great opportunity.
Speaker 3: One of the things I pointed out to BYU fans,
and I wanted to get your take on this, Brady,
because I think you got great insight on this, and
obviously you need great coaches at BYU to do elite things.
But I would say this much over the past two
to three seasons, we've seen BAU assemble the most well resourced,
most experienced, and most collectively talented defensive staff in program history.
And I don't even think it's close. I don't think
this has ever been like a one man operation. I
think there's an interconnected system, synergistic system, shared philosophy, continuity,
institutional knowledge as well of BYU that led to a
lot of success here. BYU has built what Boa is built.
I don't think it's fragile. I don't think it topples
so easily as some think with coaching staff attrition. I
think the Boa brand, the culture supersedes maybe the abilities
and talents of anyone coach. Coaches are gonna move on,
we know that, but I think the infrastructure, standards and
institution that drives them remain firmly in prey place that culture.
And then BAH has said four different head coaches since
nineteen seventy two, They've overachieved for those fifty plus years
versus their roster talent and their coaching talent. In many ways,
by has won more games per dollars spent than any
other college football program in the country during those fifty
plus years that their top ten and wins, and I
think by you will continue to win more now than
ever because of that institutional brand P four affiliation and
the resources that come from that. It's a robust data
set that should lead to optimism rather than fear amongst sugarnation.
Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, well, I mean you got to realize too.
The whole thing is set up or leaded, you could say,
spearheaded by Clonie. I mean, Clone's one of the most
forward thinking geniuses. I've been around in a long time.
What it has to do with team building and then
how to manage byu. He has mastered that. I don't
know if you got I mean this was when he
first got there. I was very vocally and publicly critical
of Clonnie, of the staff, of the performance of the team.
And Clannie was cool man. He had texted me and said, hey,
why don't we come and sit down and go over
some of the stuff. And he wasn't sitting down talking
to me like, oh, I'm going to go on this
defense mode and help Brady understand what we're dealing with
so that he can shut up. He grabbed this is
what Colonie does. He grabs a pad and a pen.
And he's like, so, what's what he's like? So explain
to me, like, what is your you know, your major
critique of what we're doing. And I started talking. I
just started just listing him and look, it wasn't personal,
just as a matter of fact, and he starts writing
stuff down. You know, here we are fast forward. We
got one of the most robust, like you talk about
it the performance training facility in terms of its organizations,
It's coaches and how it's the hierarchy with Skyler and
Kolbe and then he got Ryan and their staff and
how to all that was? That was Colonnie. You know,
Klannie was the one that's like, you know what, because
that was my biggest gripe about it, right, was the performance.
And he goes and he builds this hierarchy of performance
to where everybody has to answer to Colbe and Skyler.
But then they use their expertise in Skylar and science
Cobe and his physical therapy, and they fuse it together
to create what I would I don't remember a three
year stretch where you've had this little of non contact
kind of injuries on any team that I've ever been with.
It's remarkable. And then the Sea guys get stronger as
your goes on stay fast. I mean against Georgia Deck.
I don't know if people even realize that we wore
them out in addition to finally coming and playing with
emergency in the second half, but there was a very
clear point in that game where they were on their heels,
we were fresh, and we were starting to run through
them based off of our conditioning. The point is is
Klonnie he built that based off of feedback that he got,
and he's not That's not only the only spot. He's
done that in multiple other spots to prepare. For example,
Colnnie knew from day one. Just everybody understands, colnnie knew
Jay was most likely going to go to Greener Pastors.
Jay's the head coaching personality. Now he may stay. I'm
not saying he's gone, but Clonie knew that. Clonie knew
where Jay's goals were, just like any coach you know,
and Jay, and Clonie knows Jay's capabilities, and he's like,
you know what, probably he's gonna He's going to have
an opportunity to continue and further his career, which he should.
And I think Colonnie looks at as an opportunity to
help these guys and he made he built the structure
to handle that so that if and when Jay leaves,
there's people in place to account for that and to
account for his amazing abilities. And so, yeah, this isn't
This isn't like all of a sudden, you know, Colonie's
all of a sudden off, Carl, Oh wow, I don't
know what's going on. Now. I know this guy, he's
had this plan over the last three to four years
of what he would vision envision the program becoming. And
he's fully prepared for and like I said, and he's
been prepared in spite of what you already mentioned, Ben
of the limited resources. This the kind of you know,
sitting on the fence of really being committed to the
football team. He's banished that perfectly to where I think
right now that's no longer the case, but we'll see.
And so that's the key is you got Klanie. He's learned,
he's figured this out. He's got a plan in place,
and uh, none of this is going none of us
throws his plan in the air and makes it all
of a sudden something that he has to just you know,
figure out. Again, this is all part of the deal.
So as long as Klanne's there and his plan continues
to move forward, which it will, we're fine, ladies and gentlemen.
This is and it's like Colonnie says, and I will
reiterate what he says. This is a great thing that
people are trying to come pick you know, players and
coaches off of our rosters. Now it's just up to us,
as as Boyu and the support staff to retain the
talent the best we can. And then those that want
to progress their careers, let them go progress their careers
to have you know, contingency plans in place to account
for the bustice in which Colnnie already does. This isn't
like I said, This isn't like he's being caught off guard.
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Speaker 4: I'm a betting man. I believe it'll be internal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I kind of was feeling that way too.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll go through a long and uh, you know,
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