WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:02.960 Joining us now on the English Hotline is our good friend. 2 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:05.280 He was live with us at the All American Tailgates 3 00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:07.040 show down there and easily a couple of weeks ago. 4 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:09.839 And it's good to catch up with will Vandervoord from 5 00:00:09.839 --> 00:00:11.439 the Clemson Insider. What's up, my man? 6 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:13.960 What's going on? Guys? How y'all doing? 7 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:17.199 We're doing great. We'll lead this show off, of course 8 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.879 with Clemson talk, and then we'll save the back half 9 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:22.760 for Steelers talk, because I know you've got some perspectives 10 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:25.199 and thoughts on this Steelers team that you followed for many, 11 00:00:25.199 --> 00:00:28.519 many years. It's a big time week coming up here. Obviously, 12 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:30.879 this is a big moment for Clemson, big moment for Georgia. 13 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:33.520 A lot of thoughts on this game that are going 14 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.840 around the internet. And then we just want to start 15 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:37.960 with you. You know this program very well, Dablos Speeney, 16 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:40.479 Dablos Sweeney, I should say, spoke with the media yesterday. 17 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:43.359 What kind of sense you getting about this game that 18 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:45.159 teas off in a couple of days here. 19 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:51.159 Well, you know, I think it's gonna be I don't know, 20 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:52.640 you know, when you look at the national media, I 21 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:55.079 think national media thinks George is gonna blow Clinton away. 22 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.320 And I get that perspective just based on how they 23 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:02.840 did even play up the game last week. It's the biggest, 24 00:01:03.320 --> 00:01:06.159 it's the highest ranked game in the country, you know, 25 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:08.920 number fourteen, number one. All the other games are lower 26 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:12.000 ranked games that are evolved ranked teams against each other. 27 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.120 And you know, when you watch the game last week, 28 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:17.159 the Florida State game, it's like they kind of blew 29 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:19.799 off the Clemson game and top were really playing up 30 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:22.719 the Miami game against Florida and the Texas A and 31 00:01:22.879 --> 00:01:26.040 M game against Notre Dame war And I thought, I 32 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:30.400 thought that kind of was interesting. I think locally, I 33 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:33.000 think the Georgia fans I get to feel feel like 34 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.799 they're just gonna blow Clempson out. And I get the 35 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.560 Clemson fans feel like Clinton's gonna come and play a 36 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.239 tight game, and some even feel like they're gonna win it. 37 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:47.159 So you're getting all kinds of all kinds of feelings 38 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.719 from different areas. I guess you will. But you know, 39 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:51.840 I think the game, I really personally think it's gonna 40 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:54.079 be a good game because I think Clemson's gonna come 41 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:58.560 in there. Here's what this is a rivalry game. First 42 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.079 of all, you know Clemson and Georgia both selling is 43 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.400 a rivalry game. Also, you got a Clemson program, and 44 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.359 for people to think Georgia may blow and they may 45 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.560 blow Clinton way may be totally wrong, but I just 46 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:13.080 don't get the feeling a program with the pedigree that 47 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:17.080 Clemson has, that's one national championships, that's been to more 48 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.719 calls football playoffs than Georgia, that has had a high 49 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:25.000 level of success. I just don't see him going there 50 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.360 and letting Georgia roll all over them. You know, I 51 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.520 just don't see that. I think Georgia is the better team, 52 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.520 and Georgia has the better roster, but I think Clemson 53 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:35.199 does have a better than a fighter's chance to win 54 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:38.960 this game. I think they can win it. It's gonna 55 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:40.240 take a lot and they're gonna have to have some 56 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.240 things happen, and they're gonna have to play at a high, 57 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:44.879 high level. But I think Clinton's gonna come in there 58 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.960 and play hard, and they're gonna play physical and they look. 59 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.199 People don't understand. Last year, they got embarrassed on national 60 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:55.599 TV and David Sweeney set the camp right away right 61 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:57.400 off the bat with camp, you know, and let them 62 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:01.520 know that what happened in Durham last year is and 63 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:04.120 how they got embarrassed on national TV. They're not doing 64 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.680 that again this year. And that's kind of been the 65 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:09.639 message to them the whole camp, and you know, I 66 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.560 think that message is continued on through as they now 67 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:14.680 prepare for Georgia. I think it's gonna be a nice 68 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:18.159 slabrynocker here in Atlanta on Saturday afternoon. 69 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:19.120 Should be physical. 70 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:22.080 A noon kickoff, which I know as a reporter, you're 71 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.560 you're a fan of that, but an interesting early window 72 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:26.159 kickoff on Labor Day week. 73 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.520 I'm more of a fan if it's like if it's 74 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:33.560 like a typical traditional home game or like maybe I'm 75 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:36.360 on the road in a traditional road environment, I'm more 76 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.639 of a fan of it than I am that I 77 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:41.759 am being in Atlanta. Yeah, and because it's in Atlanta, 78 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:45.599 we don't travel because it's two hours closer. So you know, 79 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.400 so like I got to get away early in my 80 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:52.240 hours on Saturday morning and hit the highway so I 81 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:55.159 can beat the crazies that are going to be their killgating. 82 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:58.439 It has its downsides too. 83 00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.280 Yeah, Look I'm at with Ingles Tiger Tailgate show this 84 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.439 year with Daja and Mark and Rich and we've got 85 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.240 an early start for those new kickoffs, as you know. 86 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:10.479 But yeah, I mean to each their own. Hey, look 87 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.680 when you look at obviously you know the roster. 88 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.800 We'll start talking about some of the impact players for 89 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.480 Clemson heading into this season, as we do every single year. 90 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.319 But you know, Dad was Sweeny had some interesting perspectives 91 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.120 in his press conference yesterday, including the fact that and 92 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.160 I didn't realize it had been so long since Clemson 93 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:29.759 has had just a home opener at home week one, 94 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:31.199 and it's been been a minute. 95 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:34.199 Right, Yeah, you're welcome. I'm knowing that asking that question. 96 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:37.480 Oh there you go, recog news. Well, Vanivard, that's a 97 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.480 great question. Great job on your part. 98 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:41.600 Yeah, I just thought it was kind of crazy. I 99 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:44.480 just he was talking about, you know, being a neutral 100 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:46.240 site and all that, and I just said, it's kind 101 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:49.800 of crazy that in your career at Clemson you've been 102 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.759 almost as you know, I think this think this is 103 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.439 his sixteenth season opener. Now, wow, this will be eight 104 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:58.920 road games and eight home games or eight games away 105 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:02.600 from Death Valley, I should say, in his career, including 106 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:05.920 five in a row. So Clemton hasn't had a home 107 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:10.480 opener to start a season since twenty nineteen. Now that'll 108 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:12.279 change next year. That was a yeah, we get a 109 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.160 break next year. We just started home and we get 110 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.480 this little old team called LSU that comes in. So 111 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:18.600 we got a nice break. 112 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.000 Nice break there. Well, look, I think the big question 113 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:25.120 I have with this team is, obviously, as we're joined 114 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.480 by Will Vandervoord the Clemson Insider, we know what the 115 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.160 defense is all about. And by the way I saw 116 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.800 your reaction to the Barret Carter rankings. Was he listed 117 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:37.600 as the twenty fifth best player in the ACC? 118 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:38.360 Is that where they happen? 119 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:40.480 Yeah, that's that really happens. 120 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:41.680 Oh that's ridiculous. 121 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:44.839 Man, Is that really happened? And the ACC did it? 122 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:46.759 I mean, so I'm like, what are you doing? 123 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:49.319 What tape are you watching? Guy's a baller again. 124 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:54.439 Once again defense not getting any respect. But hey, he finished. 125 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:57.800 The crazy thing about it is he finished third in 126 00:05:57.839 --> 00:06:02.319 the media's preseason ballot. Said again third or player of 127 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:05.560 the year on the me not defensive player of the year, 128 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:08.720 player of the year, that means overall conference player of 129 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:12.839 the year. He finished third on the ballot yet because 130 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.800 his own conference had somebody to rank from twenty fiss 131 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.319 you know what happened there? You want me to tell 132 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.439 you what really happened there? All the marketing people have 133 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:22.439 there need to close their ears. Somebody in marketing did 134 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:24.639 the toll and they just don't understand football. 135 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:26.959 Well there there you have it. Yeah we know that 136 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:30.079 game for sure. Got a no ball to be able 137 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:31.639 to talk ball. I mean that's one of the rules. 138 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:32.519 But you look at me. 139 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.959 Why you don't put marketing people on football lists? Yeah, 140 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.480 don't do the list. They don't know what they're doing. 141 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:40.680 It the quarterback of the best person. 142 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:43.040 You know, I'm a. 143 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.079 Defensive How many brand slams will this cornerback have? 144 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:49.639 But the big question I. 145 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:51.959 Have is the receiving corps. I mean, look, Britain Steel 146 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.399 obviously will get get a lot of action in this offense, 147 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.519 but talk to me about who to look out for. 148 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.079 We know the main players right now, but you know, 149 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:03.079 obviously there's this discussion about you know, well, Trevor Lawrence 150 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:05.240 was there for a while and obviously before that it 151 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:08.639 was just Shaun Watson, Taj Boyd and guys like Watkins 152 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:11.319 and Hopkins and Higgins were part of that, and maybe 153 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.439 it's a connectivity issue. Maybe the quarterback makes the receivers better. 154 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:18.279 But we know there's no Sammy Watkins or prime DeAndre 155 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.800 Hopkins on this roster right now. But who could emerge 156 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:24.439 possibly this year is something that maybe rivals that is 157 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.879 there anybody there that you look at and say, okay, 158 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:28.920 somebody could step up and have a breakthrough season. 159 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.720 I don't know if anybody could rival you know, a 160 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:36.120 new Hopkins or Sammy Watkins or they were just special. 161 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.879 They were special as wide receivers as Sean Watson and 162 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.879 Trevor Lawrence are a quarterbacks. Right, So we got to 163 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.480 understand that like seeing those kind of guys like you know, 164 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.519 how many CJ. Spillers have you seen in your life? 165 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:50.199 Right? Not many many? 166 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:52.800 How many Travis Apins have you seen your life? Not 167 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.319 many many? So you got to put those things in 168 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.399 perspective them why those guys are special players. But I 169 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:02.079 think Brian west co as a kid, the true freshman 170 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:05.759 who played in the spring. He ended up. He's got 171 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:07.759 himself up to about one hundred and ninety pounds, which 172 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:11.399 is where they wanted them. He's a guy that the 173 00:08:11.519 --> 00:08:14.160 players just bring up every time. I mean, we get 174 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:17.959 in interviews. It's not Davo bringing up Bryant Ruscoe. It's 175 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:21.079 not us asking about Brant Westco. It's like the players 176 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.720 were the defensive players will bring him up, like, yeah, 177 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.519 we we have a hard time covering that guy and 178 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.839 this guy, this guy's gonna make plays. So when that happens, 179 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:32.519 it gives you an idea that this is a guy 180 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:34.759 who can be a playmaker. This is a guy who 181 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.000 can do some special things. And now, I don't know 182 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.759 if he's gonna be like Sammy Watkins fresh true freshman special. 183 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.759 I think that's asking too much. But if he's new 184 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.399 Compkins freshman, then then that's not because Nuke was before 185 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:50.759 Stamy got there. Duke got a really good freshman season. 186 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.519 A lot of people don't realize that, but Nuke's actually 187 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.360 set the record for a freshman in receptions and yards 188 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.720 his true freshman season. Sammy just came in the very 189 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:02.639 next year and broke them all. 190 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:03.000 Yeah. 191 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.000 But but but if he has he I think he 192 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:09.639 can potentially have a Nuke kind of freshman season, and 193 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:12.919 you know, which would be about six seven hundred yards, 194 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.080 you know, you get about you know, maybe four or 195 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.799 five touchdowns and and by doing that, he really helps 196 00:09:19.840 --> 00:09:21.639 the other guys on the team that we already know 197 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:24.039 are pretty good. And you know that's a that's an 198 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.879 Antonio Williams, a Tyler Brown, an Adam Randall, a Jake 199 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:30.799 Green stool at tight end. So they have weapons, and 200 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:33.080 that's what you know. Troy Stilato is a guy that 201 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:35.720 nobody really knows about. I think, you know, he's a 202 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:37.720 guy I think it's really gonna have a breakout season. 203 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.799 He last year he had over you know, he was 204 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:43.080 third on the team in receptions, third on the team 205 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.480 in yards, and so I think he's a guy that 206 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:49.159 could really have a breakout season two for this wide 207 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.279 receiving corps. And if you throw it a guy like 208 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:54.120 Brian westco in there who maybe can stretch the field 209 00:09:54.159 --> 00:09:57.200 and get deep, you know, he could be somebody special. 210 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:58.440 And I know a lot of people out there, well 211 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:02.000 will what about TJ. Moore other freshman, Well understand TJ. 212 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.679 Moore didn't come in until late summer, so he's a 213 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.000 little behind. Dabo talked about him being behind. Now. Tyler 214 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.960 Brown came in at the same time last year, and 215 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:14.159 it took Tyler Brown a couple of games before he 216 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.799 really got into the the mix, right, So I think 217 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:18.919 that's what TJ. Moore is, who we think he is. 218 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.480 Then I think you'll see him get into the mix, 219 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:23.960 you know, by maybe weeks three or four of the 220 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:27.600 season and become from a pretty dark gun good weapon himself. 221 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.080 But I just don't think TJ. Moore is ready to 222 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:32.000 go right off the bat and play Georgia. So I 223 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:33.519 don't think we'll see as much as him as I 224 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.320 think we will with Westcoat, who's had the whole spring 225 00:10:36.679 --> 00:10:39.080 and summer to kind of get used to college life 226 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:40.320 and being a college football player. 227 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:42.879 You're going to be interesting. Will vandervor Clemson insider joins 228 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.039 us here on the England's hotline and what was interesting 229 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.399 from week zero? I mean, let's start, obviously with what 230 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:51.279 happened in Ireland with a Florida State team that obviously 231 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:53.720 a lot of new moving parts, a familiar name of 232 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.480 quarterback in DJU, and. 233 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:57.799 A Georgia Tech team. 234 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.639 And the takeaway from me for this, you know, I 235 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.840 tried to state, you know, very balanced in my analysis here. 236 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:05.360 What a job by Brent Keeth, what a job he's 237 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:08.240 done down there re establishing that program, and as he 238 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:10.879 said after the game, not running the ball, run the ball, 239 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:13.799 ba w L. I love that quote from him, and boy, 240 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:15.360 they know how to move you up front. What a 241 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.960 great testimony in terms of being able to come in there, 242 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.559 shorten the game against that otherwise explosive team down there 243 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:24.120 in Florida State and move those guys around and totally 244 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:27.000 neutralize their pass rush. Just you your thoughts on what 245 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:28.000 we saw in Ireland there. 246 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:30.559 Yeah, and you might have heard it. And I'm not 247 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.240 patting myself on the back, but I'm going. 248 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:35.279 To expect nothing. 249 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.840 On my podcast, you know, I mentioned in my podcast 250 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.960 around back in June that I did one that that 251 00:11:44.039 --> 00:11:46.200 I thought Georgia Tech was going to beat Florida State 252 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:50.120 straight up, and and I really believed that because I 253 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.360 thought it was just asking too much for a team 254 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:56.600 who lost what they did from Florida State and then 255 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.559 to have them go all the way across the world 256 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:02.679 to play a football game with a team that's not 257 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:06.879 geiled together against a team who is who brings back 258 00:12:06.919 --> 00:12:09.080 a lot of players. A lot of people forget this 259 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.519 is a thing. Georgia Tech team who was driving to 260 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:16.639 go win the game against Georgia has a lot of 261 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.399 opportunity to go win the game against Georgia Last year 262 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.320 to end the season, they were a pretty decent football 263 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.799 team last year. This year they're a little bit better. 264 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.960 They made some changes on offense. I was not surprised 265 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:30.080 at all to see what they did against Florida State. Now, 266 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:34.080 what I was surprised was the fact that they ran 267 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:35.840 the ball as well as they did against Florida State. 268 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.679 Because we heard all year Florida State's defensive fronts better 269 00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:42.080 than Clemson's, is the best in the ACC blah blah blah. 270 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:45.679 We didn't see that. And what surprised me also about 271 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.960 that was how well Georgia Tech with the quarterback run 272 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.080 got to the outside edge and how they just, you know, 273 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.519 just really exploded Florida State's defensive ends in that game. 274 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.039 And I'm telling you what, Florida State better get that 275 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:04.840 fixed by Monday night, because the guy they're gonna see 276 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.639 at Boston College on Monday night, Yeah, he's a whole 277 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:09.799 lot faster than what they just saw last week for 278 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:12.519 Georgia Tick. And if he gets down on the edge, 279 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.559 he's not getting twelve to thirteen yards, He's going for 280 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:16.360 about seventy. 281 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:19.039 Yeah, And you know, I got Bill O'Brien now coming 282 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:20.840 into the fold as the coach of that program, and 283 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:24.200 this is no easy game for Florida State coming up 284 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:26.200 back to Clemson. And of course it's the Believe in 285 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.639 Clemson Football podcast that is one of the best in 286 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:31.759 the business for college football. And you had the luxury 287 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:33.919 and the pleasure of being joined by our good friend 288 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.279 Tim Burray this week. And I apparently I haven't had 289 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:38.879 a chance to listen to it yet. I usually listen 290 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.919 to these right before game day to kind of give 291 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:43.320 me a little flavor of what you guys are thinking of. 292 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:47.559 And obviously a lot of memories with the Georgia Clemson rivalry. 293 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:49.279 I mean, you you're one of the leading experts in 294 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:51.799 Clemson football. What did you guys talk about and get 295 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:53.519 into and what are some of your favorite memories when 296 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:55.960 you look back at this series over the years. 297 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:59.559 Yeah, we primarily focused on the what I like to 298 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:02.960 call the eleven year War between Georgia and Clemson that 299 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.279 was from nineteen seventy seven to eighty seven. In nineteen 300 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:10.679 seventy four, the rivalry prior to nineteen seventy four, of 301 00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:14.720 the previous from nineteen thirty two to nineteen seventy two, 302 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.799 every game was played in Itthens, and so Georgia had 303 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:21.600 a nice comfortable twenty six three and three record against 304 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.559 Clemson at that time. But in nineteen seventy four, Clemson 305 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.399 got him to move the game to home and home series, 306 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.480 and the first year they played in Death Valley, Clemson 307 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.480 beat Georgia beat them by a couple of touchdowns in 308 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.559 that game, and it really changed the dynamics of the 309 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:40.840 rivalry at that time. And then back in seventy seven, 310 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:42.919 it really it really took a change in Charlie Peil 311 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.080 became the head coach and then Danny Ford obviously took 312 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.559 over for him then and it just became a complete, 313 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:53.639 totally different rivalry than what it was. And you know, 314 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.279 it really was like a series at that time that 315 00:14:56.360 --> 00:14:58.320 over the next eleven years it was five to five 316 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:02.320 and one average margin victory was four points. And what 317 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.360 Tim told me last night was that in the when 318 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:08.799 Danny Ford was the coach in the eight the nine 319 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.440 games he was the head coach in that series, the 320 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:14.440 final score the average, that's the average, but the total 321 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:18.360 score Clemson outscored Georgia one fifty two to one to 322 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:19.039 fifty one. 323 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:19.720 Oh wow. 324 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.320 And the record was four to four and one in 325 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.679 those eight in those nine games, just out. It was 326 00:15:26.679 --> 00:15:29.159 a It was one of the best college football rivalries 327 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.320 in the country at the time. It was as close 328 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:36.080 physical boat teams were at the top of the college 329 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:39.200 football world, winning national championships in nineteen eighty and eighty one, 330 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.480 and it was really good for the game of college football. 331 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.039 It was a nationally teleprized game in most occasions, and 332 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:48.759 you know, and everybody was watching it and paid attention 333 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.159 because it had it had repercussions on the national landscape 334 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.600 at the time, and so it sounds kind of familiar 335 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.879 going into this game, right and you know, so you 336 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.399 know it. That's kind of what we talked about, and 337 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:04.000 we talked about those games and what they meant to 338 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:06.360 each team. And then Tim, of course he always has 339 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:10.960 these antadotical stories that you didn't know, and that he 340 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:13.240 told a couple last night evolved in the rivalry and 341 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.039 it was just kind of awesome to see. 342 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:18.480 Will I'm gonna pivot over to the NFL a little 343 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.720 bit and we can talk some Steelers ball. Obviously with 344 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:23.960 all the informations come out, you know, Russell Wilson's gonna 345 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:26.200 be the starter. I think you talked about this a 346 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:27.799 couple of weeks ago that that was kind of the 347 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:32.360 foregone conclusion that there wasn't necessarily a quarterback battle. So 348 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:33.720 I'm gonna kind of stay away from that, but I 349 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:35.960 do want to get your take on Broderick Jones and 350 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.519 just what we've seen from him in the preseason and 351 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:39.639 almost take him. 352 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:41.799 A little I mean, it seems like a little bit 353 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:42.399 of a step back. 354 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:42.600 Is it. 355 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:44.639 Do you think he's more limited because of his elbow 356 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:47.440 or is it just because he keeps getting moving moved 357 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:49.559 around and we're not really sure what position he's going 358 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:49.960 to play. 359 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.200 What are your thoughts on Broderick? 360 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.240 I don't know, but if I had to, he had 361 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.720 to ask me, you know, the main thing, I would say, 362 00:16:56.759 --> 00:16:57.759 he's a bust right now. 363 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.759 You know, they don't even know what he's playing. The 364 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:03.559 guy playing like every other position on the line right now. 365 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:04.160 It's crazy. 366 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:05.319 Yeah. 367 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.559 Well, the reason he is is because they hoped he 368 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.240 would be able to come in and be the start 369 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.200 and right tackle this year, but that didn't happen. Yeah, 370 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.880 so there's when a guy who's been there one year 371 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.519 already can't take the job or can't win the job 372 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:21.519 over a rookie who hadn't been there yet who's just 373 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:24.480 getting there, then that makes me wonder, like, did you 374 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.160 make a mistake. And also they were hoping he would 375 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.440 take over dan moore spot at left tackle, right that 376 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:34.240 hasn't happened either, and so I'm like, you know, maybe 377 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:36.880 blaming on the elbow issue, maybe blaming on other things, 378 00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:38.799 but well, I'm not gonna blame it on him having 379 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.160 the move positions. I just that's a bunch of malarkey. 380 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.880 I think I think it's more just I just think 381 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:47.079 he's not living up to what they hoped he would be, 382 00:17:47.119 --> 00:17:49.599 and they're just trying to find value for him because 383 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.160 he was the number fourteen overall pick that they traded 384 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:55.200 up to get and so they're hoping he's not going 385 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.720 to be a bus But right now, you know, they 386 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.880 may have to make a decision because if Dan Moore 387 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:04.079 continues to play well and and of course the you know, 388 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.079 the kids from Washington that came in, if he lives 389 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.200 up to the expectations, then what are you going to 390 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:10.599 do with Roderick Jones? 391 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:11.599 Right, you know? 392 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.559 And I think that's the question uh So, right now, 393 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:17.119 I say he's a bust. I know it's only year two, 394 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:19.839 but he's a bus right now. He hasn't worked out 395 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:21.960 and he got beat out by a rookie. 396 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:24.559 Right and then, obviously, I'm sure you've seen the news 397 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:27.799 about Isaac cilmloe. How's how does that feel with a 398 00:18:27.920 --> 00:18:30.559 line that's already kind of kind of struggling there and 399 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:33.000 has been struggling for a number of years, and and 400 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:36.440 going forward, barring Broderick Jones or Troy Faltano or whoever 401 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.519