Speaker 1: Joining us now on the English Hotline is our good friend.
Speaker 1: He was live with us at the All American Tailgates
Speaker 1: show down there and easily a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: And it's good to catch up with will Vandervoord from
Speaker 1: the Clemson Insider. What's up, my man?
Speaker 2: What's going on? Guys? How y'all doing?
Speaker 1: We're doing great. We'll lead this show off, of course
Speaker 1: with Clemson talk, and then we'll save the back half
Speaker 1: for Steelers talk, because I know you've got some perspectives
Speaker 1: and thoughts on this Steelers team that you followed for many,
Speaker 1: many years. It's a big time week coming up here. Obviously,
Speaker 1: this is a big moment for Clemson, big moment for Georgia.
Speaker 1: A lot of thoughts on this game that are going
Speaker 1: around the internet. And then we just want to start
Speaker 1: with you. You know this program very well, Dablos Speeney,
Speaker 1: Dablos Sweeney, I should say, spoke with the media yesterday.
Speaker 1: What kind of sense you getting about this game that
Speaker 1: teas off in a couple of days here.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think it's gonna be I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, when you look at the national media, I
Speaker 2: think national media thinks George is gonna blow Clinton away.
Speaker 2: And I get that perspective just based on how they
Speaker 2: did even play up the game last week. It's the biggest,
Speaker 2: it's the highest ranked game in the country, you know,
Speaker 2: number fourteen, number one. All the other games are lower
Speaker 2: ranked games that are evolved ranked teams against each other.
Speaker 2: And you know, when you watch the game last week,
Speaker 2: the Florida State game, it's like they kind of blew
Speaker 2: off the Clemson game and top were really playing up
Speaker 2: the Miami game against Florida and the Texas A and
Speaker 2: M game against Notre Dame war And I thought, I
Speaker 2: thought that kind of was interesting. I think locally, I
Speaker 2: think the Georgia fans I get to feel feel like
Speaker 2: they're just gonna blow Clempson out. And I get the
Speaker 2: Clemson fans feel like Clinton's gonna come and play a
Speaker 2: tight game, and some even feel like they're gonna win it.
Speaker 2: So you're getting all kinds of all kinds of feelings
Speaker 2: from different areas. I guess you will. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think the game, I really personally think it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a good game because I think Clemson's gonna come
Speaker 2: in there. Here's what this is a rivalry game. First
Speaker 2: of all, you know Clemson and Georgia both selling is
Speaker 2: a rivalry game. Also, you got a Clemson program, and
Speaker 2: for people to think Georgia may blow and they may
Speaker 2: blow Clinton way may be totally wrong, but I just
Speaker 2: don't get the feeling a program with the pedigree that
Speaker 2: Clemson has, that's one national championships, that's been to more
Speaker 2: calls football playoffs than Georgia, that has had a high
Speaker 2: level of success. I just don't see him going there
Speaker 2: and letting Georgia roll all over them. You know, I
Speaker 2: just don't see that. I think Georgia is the better team,
Speaker 2: and Georgia has the better roster, but I think Clemson
Speaker 2: does have a better than a fighter's chance to win
Speaker 2: this game. I think they can win it. It's gonna
Speaker 2: take a lot and they're gonna have to have some
Speaker 2: things happen, and they're gonna have to play at a high,
Speaker 2: high level. But I think Clinton's gonna come in there
Speaker 2: and play hard, and they're gonna play physical and they look.
Speaker 2: People don't understand. Last year, they got embarrassed on national
Speaker 2: TV and David Sweeney set the camp right away right
Speaker 2: off the bat with camp, you know, and let them
Speaker 2: know that what happened in Durham last year is and
Speaker 2: how they got embarrassed on national TV. They're not doing
Speaker 2: that again this year. And that's kind of been the
Speaker 2: message to them the whole camp, and you know, I
Speaker 2: think that message is continued on through as they now
Speaker 2: prepare for Georgia. I think it's gonna be a nice
Speaker 2: slabrynocker here in Atlanta on Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Should be physical.
Speaker 1: A noon kickoff, which I know as a reporter, you're
Speaker 1: you're a fan of that, but an interesting early window
Speaker 1: kickoff on Labor Day week.
Speaker 2: I'm more of a fan if it's like if it's
Speaker 2: like a typical traditional home game or like maybe I'm
Speaker 2: on the road in a traditional road environment, I'm more
Speaker 2: of a fan of it than I am that I
Speaker 2: am being in Atlanta. Yeah, and because it's in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: we don't travel because it's two hours closer. So you know,
Speaker 2: so like I got to get away early in my
Speaker 2: hours on Saturday morning and hit the highway so I
Speaker 2: can beat the crazies that are going to be their killgating.
Speaker 3: It has its downsides too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Look I'm at with Ingles Tiger Tailgate show this
Speaker 1: year with Daja and Mark and Rich and we've got
Speaker 1: an early start for those new kickoffs, as you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean to each their own. Hey, look
Speaker 3: when you look at obviously you know the roster.
Speaker 1: We'll start talking about some of the impact players for
Speaker 1: Clemson heading into this season, as we do every single year.
Speaker 1: But you know, Dad was Sweeny had some interesting perspectives
Speaker 1: in his press conference yesterday, including the fact that and
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it had been so long since Clemson
Speaker 1: has had just a home opener at home week one,
Speaker 1: and it's been been a minute.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you're welcome. I'm knowing that asking that question.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, recog news. Well, Vanivard, that's a
Speaker 3: great question. Great job on your part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just thought it was kind of crazy. I
Speaker 2: just he was talking about, you know, being a neutral
Speaker 2: site and all that, and I just said, it's kind
Speaker 2: of crazy that in your career at Clemson you've been
Speaker 2: almost as you know, I think this think this is
Speaker 2: his sixteenth season opener. Now, wow, this will be eight
Speaker 2: road games and eight home games or eight games away
Speaker 2: from Death Valley, I should say, in his career, including
Speaker 2: five in a row. So Clemton hasn't had a home
Speaker 2: opener to start a season since twenty nineteen. Now that'll
Speaker 2: change next year. That was a yeah, we get a
Speaker 2: break next year. We just started home and we get
Speaker 2: this little old team called LSU that comes in. So
Speaker 2: we got a nice break.
Speaker 1: Nice break there. Well, look, I think the big question
Speaker 1: I have with this team is, obviously, as we're joined
Speaker 1: by Will Vandervoord the Clemson Insider, we know what the
Speaker 1: defense is all about. And by the way I saw
Speaker 1: your reaction to the Barret Carter rankings. Was he listed
Speaker 1: as the twenty fifth best player in the ACC?
Speaker 3: Is that where they happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that really happens.
Speaker 3: Oh that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Man, Is that really happened? And the ACC did it?
Speaker 2: I mean, so I'm like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: What tape are you watching? Guy's a baller again.
Speaker 2: Once again defense not getting any respect. But hey, he finished.
Speaker 2: The crazy thing about it is he finished third in
Speaker 2: the media's preseason ballot. Said again third or player of
Speaker 2: the year on the me not defensive player of the year,
Speaker 2: player of the year, that means overall conference player of
Speaker 2: the year. He finished third on the ballot yet because
Speaker 2: his own conference had somebody to rank from twenty fiss
Speaker 2: you know what happened there? You want me to tell
Speaker 2: you what really happened there? All the marketing people have
Speaker 2: there need to close their ears. Somebody in marketing did
Speaker 2: the toll and they just don't understand football.
Speaker 3: Well there there you have it. Yeah we know that
Speaker 3: game for sure. Got a no ball to be able
Speaker 3: to talk ball. I mean that's one of the rules.
Speaker 3: But you look at me.
Speaker 2: Why you don't put marketing people on football lists? Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't do the list. They don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2: It the quarterback of the best person.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a.
Speaker 1: Defensive How many brand slams will this cornerback have?
Speaker 3: But the big question I.
Speaker 1: Have is the receiving corps. I mean, look, Britain Steel
Speaker 1: obviously will get get a lot of action in this offense,
Speaker 1: but talk to me about who to look out for.
Speaker 1: We know the main players right now, but you know,
Speaker 1: obviously there's this discussion about you know, well, Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: was there for a while and obviously before that it
Speaker 1: was just Shaun Watson, Taj Boyd and guys like Watkins
Speaker 1: and Hopkins and Higgins were part of that, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's a connectivity issue. Maybe the quarterback makes the receivers better.
Speaker 1: But we know there's no Sammy Watkins or prime DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins on this roster right now. But who could emerge
Speaker 1: possibly this year is something that maybe rivals that is
Speaker 1: there anybody there that you look at and say, okay,
Speaker 1: somebody could step up and have a breakthrough season.
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody could rival you know, a
Speaker 2: new Hopkins or Sammy Watkins or they were just special.
Speaker 2: They were special as wide receivers as Sean Watson and
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence are a quarterbacks. Right, So we got to
Speaker 2: understand that like seeing those kind of guys like you know,
Speaker 2: how many CJ. Spillers have you seen in your life?
Speaker 3: Right? Not many many?
Speaker 2: How many Travis Apins have you seen your life? Not
Speaker 2: many many? So you got to put those things in
Speaker 2: perspective them why those guys are special players. But I
Speaker 2: think Brian west co as a kid, the true freshman
Speaker 2: who played in the spring. He ended up. He's got
Speaker 2: himself up to about one hundred and ninety pounds, which
Speaker 2: is where they wanted them. He's a guy that the
Speaker 2: players just bring up every time. I mean, we get
Speaker 2: in interviews. It's not Davo bringing up Bryant Ruscoe. It's
Speaker 2: not us asking about Brant Westco. It's like the players
Speaker 2: were the defensive players will bring him up, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we we have a hard time covering that guy and
Speaker 2: this guy, this guy's gonna make plays. So when that happens,
Speaker 2: it gives you an idea that this is a guy
Speaker 2: who can be a playmaker. This is a guy who
Speaker 2: can do some special things. And now, I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's gonna be like Sammy Watkins fresh true freshman special.
Speaker 2: I think that's asking too much. But if he's new
Speaker 2: Compkins freshman, then then that's not because Nuke was before
Speaker 2: Stamy got there. Duke got a really good freshman season.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize that, but Nuke's actually
Speaker 2: set the record for a freshman in receptions and yards
Speaker 2: his true freshman season. Sammy just came in the very
Speaker 2: next year and broke them all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but but if he has he I think he
Speaker 2: can potentially have a Nuke kind of freshman season, and
Speaker 2: you know, which would be about six seven hundred yards,
Speaker 2: you know, you get about you know, maybe four or
Speaker 2: five touchdowns and and by doing that, he really helps
Speaker 2: the other guys on the team that we already know
Speaker 2: are pretty good. And you know that's a that's an
Speaker 2: Antonio Williams, a Tyler Brown, an Adam Randall, a Jake
Speaker 2: Green stool at tight end. So they have weapons, and
Speaker 2: that's what you know. Troy Stilato is a guy that
Speaker 2: nobody really knows about. I think, you know, he's a
Speaker 2: guy I think it's really gonna have a breakout season.
Speaker 2: He last year he had over you know, he was
Speaker 2: third on the team in receptions, third on the team
Speaker 2: in yards, and so I think he's a guy that
Speaker 2: could really have a breakout season two for this wide
Speaker 2: receiving corps. And if you throw it a guy like
Speaker 2: Brian westco in there who maybe can stretch the field
Speaker 2: and get deep, you know, he could be somebody special.
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people out there, well
Speaker 2: will what about TJ. Moore other freshman, Well understand TJ.
Speaker 2: Moore didn't come in until late summer, so he's a
Speaker 2: little behind. Dabo talked about him being behind. Now. Tyler
Speaker 2: Brown came in at the same time last year, and
Speaker 2: it took Tyler Brown a couple of games before he
Speaker 2: really got into the the mix, right, So I think
Speaker 2: that's what TJ. Moore is, who we think he is.
Speaker 2: Then I think you'll see him get into the mix,
Speaker 2: you know, by maybe weeks three or four of the
Speaker 2: season and become from a pretty dark gun good weapon himself.
Speaker 2: But I just don't think TJ. Moore is ready to
Speaker 2: go right off the bat and play Georgia. So I
Speaker 2: don't think we'll see as much as him as I
Speaker 2: think we will with Westcoat, who's had the whole spring
Speaker 2: and summer to kind of get used to college life
Speaker 2: and being a college football player.
Speaker 1: You're going to be interesting. Will vandervor Clemson insider joins
Speaker 1: us here on the England's hotline and what was interesting
Speaker 1: from week zero? I mean, let's start, obviously with what
Speaker 1: happened in Ireland with a Florida State team that obviously
Speaker 1: a lot of new moving parts, a familiar name of
Speaker 1: quarterback in DJU, and.
Speaker 3: A Georgia Tech team.
Speaker 1: And the takeaway from me for this, you know, I
Speaker 1: tried to state, you know, very balanced in my analysis here.
Speaker 1: What a job by Brent Keeth, what a job he's
Speaker 1: done down there re establishing that program, and as he
Speaker 1: said after the game, not running the ball, run the ball,
Speaker 1: ba w L. I love that quote from him, and boy,
Speaker 1: they know how to move you up front. What a
Speaker 1: great testimony in terms of being able to come in there,
Speaker 1: shorten the game against that otherwise explosive team down there
Speaker 1: in Florida State and move those guys around and totally
Speaker 1: neutralize their pass rush. Just you your thoughts on what
Speaker 1: we saw in Ireland there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might have heard it. And I'm not
Speaker 2: patting myself on the back, but I'm going.
Speaker 3: To expect nothing.
Speaker 2: On my podcast, you know, I mentioned in my podcast
Speaker 2: around back in June that I did one that that
Speaker 2: I thought Georgia Tech was going to beat Florida State
Speaker 2: straight up, and and I really believed that because I
Speaker 2: thought it was just asking too much for a team
Speaker 2: who lost what they did from Florida State and then
Speaker 2: to have them go all the way across the world
Speaker 2: to play a football game with a team that's not
Speaker 2: geiled together against a team who is who brings back
Speaker 2: a lot of players. A lot of people forget this
Speaker 2: is a thing. Georgia Tech team who was driving to
Speaker 2: go win the game against Georgia has a lot of
Speaker 2: opportunity to go win the game against Georgia Last year
Speaker 2: to end the season, they were a pretty decent football
Speaker 2: team last year. This year they're a little bit better.
Speaker 2: They made some changes on offense. I was not surprised
Speaker 2: at all to see what they did against Florida State. Now,
Speaker 2: what I was surprised was the fact that they ran
Speaker 2: the ball as well as they did against Florida State.
Speaker 2: Because we heard all year Florida State's defensive fronts better
Speaker 2: than Clemson's, is the best in the ACC blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: We didn't see that. And what surprised me also about
Speaker 2: that was how well Georgia Tech with the quarterback run
Speaker 2: got to the outside edge and how they just, you know,
Speaker 2: just really exploded Florida State's defensive ends in that game.
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you what, Florida State better get that
Speaker 2: fixed by Monday night, because the guy they're gonna see
Speaker 2: at Boston College on Monday night, Yeah, he's a whole
Speaker 2: lot faster than what they just saw last week for
Speaker 2: Georgia Tick. And if he gets down on the edge,
Speaker 2: he's not getting twelve to thirteen yards, He's going for
Speaker 2: about seventy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I got Bill O'Brien now coming
Speaker 1: into the fold as the coach of that program, and
Speaker 1: this is no easy game for Florida State coming up
Speaker 1: back to Clemson. And of course it's the Believe in
Speaker 1: Clemson Football podcast that is one of the best in
Speaker 1: the business for college football. And you had the luxury
Speaker 1: and the pleasure of being joined by our good friend
Speaker 1: Tim Burray this week. And I apparently I haven't had
Speaker 1: a chance to listen to it yet. I usually listen
Speaker 1: to these right before game day to kind of give
Speaker 1: me a little flavor of what you guys are thinking of.
Speaker 1: And obviously a lot of memories with the Georgia Clemson rivalry.
Speaker 1: I mean, you you're one of the leading experts in
Speaker 1: Clemson football. What did you guys talk about and get
Speaker 1: into and what are some of your favorite memories when
Speaker 1: you look back at this series over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we primarily focused on the what I like to
Speaker 2: call the eleven year War between Georgia and Clemson that
Speaker 2: was from nineteen seventy seven to eighty seven. In nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four, the rivalry prior to nineteen seventy four, of
Speaker 2: the previous from nineteen thirty two to nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 2: every game was played in Itthens, and so Georgia had
Speaker 2: a nice comfortable twenty six three and three record against
Speaker 2: Clemson at that time. But in nineteen seventy four, Clemson
Speaker 2: got him to move the game to home and home series,
Speaker 2: and the first year they played in Death Valley, Clemson
Speaker 2: beat Georgia beat them by a couple of touchdowns in
Speaker 2: that game, and it really changed the dynamics of the
Speaker 2: rivalry at that time. And then back in seventy seven,
Speaker 2: it really it really took a change in Charlie Peil
Speaker 2: became the head coach and then Danny Ford obviously took
Speaker 2: over for him then and it just became a complete,
Speaker 2: totally different rivalry than what it was. And you know,
Speaker 2: it really was like a series at that time that
Speaker 2: over the next eleven years it was five to five
Speaker 2: and one average margin victory was four points. And what
Speaker 2: Tim told me last night was that in the when
Speaker 2: Danny Ford was the coach in the eight the nine
Speaker 2: games he was the head coach in that series, the
Speaker 2: final score the average, that's the average, but the total
Speaker 2: score Clemson outscored Georgia one fifty two to one to
Speaker 2: fifty one.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And the record was four to four and one in
Speaker 2: those eight in those nine games, just out. It was
Speaker 2: a It was one of the best college football rivalries
Speaker 2: in the country at the time. It was as close
Speaker 2: physical boat teams were at the top of the college
Speaker 2: football world, winning national championships in nineteen eighty and eighty one,
Speaker 2: and it was really good for the game of college football.
Speaker 2: It was a nationally teleprized game in most occasions, and
Speaker 2: you know, and everybody was watching it and paid attention
Speaker 2: because it had it had repercussions on the national landscape
Speaker 2: at the time, and so it sounds kind of familiar
Speaker 2: going into this game, right and you know, so you
Speaker 2: know it. That's kind of what we talked about, and
Speaker 2: we talked about those games and what they meant to
Speaker 2: each team. And then Tim, of course he always has
Speaker 2: these antadotical stories that you didn't know, and that he
Speaker 2: told a couple last night evolved in the rivalry and
Speaker 2: it was just kind of awesome to see.
Speaker 4: Will I'm gonna pivot over to the NFL a little
Speaker 4: bit and we can talk some Steelers ball. Obviously with
Speaker 4: all the informations come out, you know, Russell Wilson's gonna
Speaker 4: be the starter. I think you talked about this a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago that that was kind of the
Speaker 4: foregone conclusion that there wasn't necessarily a quarterback battle. So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kind of stay away from that, but I
Speaker 4: do want to get your take on Broderick Jones and
Speaker 4: just what we've seen from him in the preseason and
Speaker 4: almost take him.
Speaker 3: A little I mean, it seems like a little bit
Speaker 3: of a step back.
Speaker 1: Is it.
Speaker 4: Do you think he's more limited because of his elbow
Speaker 4: or is it just because he keeps getting moving moved
Speaker 4: around and we're not really sure what position he's going
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Broderick?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but if I had to, he had
Speaker 2: to ask me, you know, the main thing, I would say,
Speaker 2: he's a bust right now.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't even know what he's playing. The
Speaker 3: guy playing like every other position on the line right now.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the reason he is is because they hoped he
Speaker 2: would be able to come in and be the start
Speaker 2: and right tackle this year, but that didn't happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so there's when a guy who's been there one year
Speaker 2: already can't take the job or can't win the job
Speaker 2: over a rookie who hadn't been there yet who's just
Speaker 2: getting there, then that makes me wonder, like, did you
Speaker 2: make a mistake. And also they were hoping he would
Speaker 2: take over dan moore spot at left tackle, right that
Speaker 2: hasn't happened either, and so I'm like, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: blaming on the elbow issue, maybe blaming on other things,
Speaker 2: but well, I'm not gonna blame it on him having
Speaker 2: the move positions. I just that's a bunch of malarkey.
Speaker 2: I think I think it's more just I just think
Speaker 2: he's not living up to what they hoped he would be,
Speaker 2: and they're just trying to find value for him because
Speaker 2: he was the number fourteen overall pick that they traded
Speaker 2: up to get and so they're hoping he's not going
Speaker 2: to be a bus But right now, you know, they
Speaker 2: may have to make a decision because if Dan Moore
Speaker 2: continues to play well and and of course the you know,
Speaker 2: the kids from Washington that came in, if he lives
Speaker 2: up to the expectations, then what are you going to
Speaker 2: do with Roderick Jones?
Speaker 3: Right, you know?
Speaker 2: And I think that's the question uh So, right now,
Speaker 2: I say he's a bust. I know it's only year two,
Speaker 2: but he's a bus right now. He hasn't worked out
Speaker 2: and he got beat out by a rookie.
Speaker 4: Right and then, obviously, I'm sure you've seen the news
Speaker 4: about Isaac cilmloe. How's how does that feel with a
Speaker 4: line that's already kind of kind of struggling there and
Speaker 4: has been struggling for a number of years, and and
Speaker 4: going forward, barring Broderick Jones or Troy Faltano or whoever
Speaker 4: it is that's going in there to start, how do
Speaker 4: we fix it? How do we get this line? How
Speaker 4: do we make it solid?
Speaker 2: Well? Right now, Crimson, I mean Blisper has got to
Speaker 2: stop being snake bit, right, I mean they're just snate
Speaker 2: bit on the offensive line every time they think they
Speaker 2: get something, and they're taking a step forward to take
Speaker 2: two steps back. And I like, I like what they
Speaker 2: have in Frasier at center because Univerbrick is out for
Speaker 2: the year, so the rookies gonna have to start. That's
Speaker 2: going to be a learning curve, right. I like what
Speaker 2: the but I like the future with him. I think
Speaker 2: he's got a chance to be a really good center.
Speaker 2: I like what they have in McCormick, who can play,
Speaker 2: who can play that left guard position. But again, he's
Speaker 2: a rookie, so you know that's he's gonna have some
Speaker 2: rookie mistakes and he's young and he's going to be
Speaker 2: in experience, so I think they're just gonna have some
Speaker 2: growing pains there. To be honest with you, the thing
Speaker 2: that sucks the most is you thought you had a
Speaker 2: little depth, right but now you find out you don't
Speaker 2: have any depth, and because you're having to play guys
Speaker 2: earlier than you wanted to, and so it's a it's
Speaker 2: going to be a work in progress, and I hate it,
Speaker 2: you know, because you thought the running game would be
Speaker 2: able to go better this year, and maybe it still will,
Speaker 2: who knows, you know, we'll we'll find out. But you know,
Speaker 2: obviously not a good start for the Steelers when when
Speaker 2: their offensive line is getting banged up as much as
Speaker 2: it is already.
Speaker 1: Well, last question, I mean speaking of Georgia. George Pickens
Speaker 1: obviously is a wide receiver one right now for Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and is capable of doing great things, and we've seen
Speaker 1: what he can do, but I mean, of us, no,
Speaker 1: he's not no.
Speaker 3: No, he turned out not one of the Georgia guys
Speaker 3: that worked out. But but I will say this that that.
Speaker 1: That wide receiver to spot. And again I don't want
Speaker 1: to go all a uk here. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: that that situation is very fluid and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts there. But they they really do need
Speaker 1: somebody else on the other side. Who who do you
Speaker 1: think emerges? Is there anybody in the roster right now
Speaker 1: that stands out?
Speaker 3: Is okay?
Speaker 1: They could take the mantle and be what maybe Deontay
Speaker 1: Johnson the good side of Deontay was at least when
Speaker 1: he was there at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Well, no, there's no deont Johnson. I can't tell you that.
Speaker 3: I hear. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean you hope that when he gets playing and
Speaker 2: Ruman Wilson to be a guy that when he gets
Speaker 2: up there and starts playing, that eventually he can turn
Speaker 2: into something. But he didn't have any preseason reps at
Speaker 2: all because he got injured. Liked Birthday camp and so
Speaker 2: you know, so it's going to be a while, I
Speaker 2: mean maybe even not even this year before you see
Speaker 2: anything from Rouman Will and so you know they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to have other guys step up that they brought in.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a true guy that's the
Speaker 2: number two guy, And it's gonna be interesting how they
Speaker 2: try to, you know, work Pickens to try to get
Speaker 2: him open because he's gonna get double teamed and everything.
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna key on him because they're not gonna be
Speaker 2: worried about anybody else, and so you're gonna need one
Speaker 2: of those other guys. Maybe, you know, I believe it's
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson. You know, that's the guy that maybe you know,
Speaker 2: he's got the potential to be really good, right was
Speaker 2: at one point then started getting injured. If he can
Speaker 2: stay healthy, you know, he's a guy that's gonna have
Speaker 2: opportunities because I think he can get open yea, And
Speaker 2: but he's got to make the most of them, and
Speaker 2: he's got to stay healthy. If he starts doing that,
Speaker 2: then maybe that can take some pressure off off Pickens.
Speaker 2: Pat fryer Mouth is a guy I like to see
Speaker 2: get going too. He's been unfortunately because of the bad
Speaker 2: offensive line, he hasn't been able to be used the
Speaker 2: way they wanted them to because he has to stay
Speaker 2: in the chip and block Jim so haven't been able
Speaker 2: to use his talents the way they would like to.
Speaker 2: So they got some skill players, they really do. It's
Speaker 2: just a matter of, you know, can they get the
Speaker 2: right mix in there, and you know, can somebody step
Speaker 2: up and become that number two just enough. You don't
Speaker 2: have to be an all pro wide receiver. It just
Speaker 2: needs to be something where defense has got to respect
Speaker 2: him well.
Speaker 1: As we prepare for another NFL season, we're eight days
Speaker 1: away from kickoff from that and then just a couple
Speaker 1: of short days away now from Georgia and Clemson, tangling
Speaker 1: Will Vanderbor Clemson inside of remind us where we can
Speaker 1: find your work, and what's coming up on the horizon
Speaker 1: is we're going to be just stuck on all of
Speaker 1: your news and your podcasts in terms of Clemson analysis
Speaker 1: or you're my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to be a lot of stuff in them.
Speaker 2: But before we get real fast, want to make my mind,
Speaker 2: Trey here. You know what year it is, right, guys
Speaker 2: for the Steelers, Right, it's the what anniversary?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the anniversary.
Speaker 2: It's the fiftieth anniversary of their first Super Bowl title,
Speaker 2: which they wanted.
Speaker 3: New Orleans goodness, Wow, the embarrassment.
Speaker 2: Of countroversary that year. There. You know, you had a
Speaker 2: great defense, he had quarterback controversy. He had questions on
Speaker 2: the offensive line going into that seventy four season.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm some parallel play, guys.
Speaker 2: Guess for that Super Bowl plate that year.
Speaker 1: New Orleans, correct, New New Orleans, and this one has
Speaker 1: played in New Orleans and they're.
Speaker 2: Similar play to New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Similar components happening now, history is repeating itself.
Speaker 3: It's all coming together finally for the Steelers after years apart.
Speaker 3: Marking on the calendar. Let's go all three of us
Speaker 3: road trip to New Orleans. Let's bload up on the
Speaker 3: gumbo and bourbon straight here we come. Baby. That is
Speaker 3: a fascinating nugget. Man. That is that is cool.
Speaker 2: That is yeah, yeah, I thought it was crazy when
Speaker 2: I when I started paying attention to it, they and
Speaker 2: realized all that. So anyway, anyway, guys, they could find
Speaker 2: me obviously clinching joy at the game. We were getting
Speaker 2: loaded on it, and we got a podcast on our
Speaker 2: YouTube channels at Clinton Insider. You can go check those out.
Speaker 2: We got all the player interviews on our website at
Speaker 2: Clemson Tires dot com. We'll have breakdowns and things of
Speaker 2: that nature that we're working on. So tons and tons
Speaker 2: of stuff between now and kickoff, and then when the
Speaker 2: game is kicked off, we'll have tons of stuff in game,
Speaker 2: post game, and then a day after. So Clinton Insider
Speaker 2: you can check us out there Clinton insider dot com,
Speaker 2: at our Facebook page, at Clinton Insider, on X at
Speaker 2: Clinson Insider. So I'll find different ways to find us,
Speaker 2: of course, you can find all that also with me
Speaker 2: on Steele.
Speaker 1: Will Well, you're the best man. We've following you all
Speaker 1: weekend long for all the doings, my friend. We'll see
Speaker 1: you soon.
Speaker 2: Bud Hi guys, we'll talk to you next time.