Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to bra Vou. We're black.
We are back here. I am here with Leah. She
has her dja A residency today on my podcast. It
is literally Wednesday. It's the day after the Summerhouse finale,
and I wouldn't want to discuss it with anyone other
than Leah. And I also discussed it with Raven earlier,
but that was on Bitch Is Better. But on here
we are going back and forth and back and forth.
And today we share the baby, the Summer House baby,
we share the in the City baby, and if we
have anything about Rhode Allen, we'll be sharing the Rhode
Island baby. And then this very day is an emotional
one because the last day of the Boys ever, like ever,
and I'm sure it's gonna be destructive, disgusting. I always
wait and I eat during the Boys, which is a mistake.
It's so gory. It's so gory. And then we will
be talking the finale, the series finale with Leah on
her podcast later this week. Leah, welcome. I love you
so much. I've been getting to know you for like
a really like obviously we've been podcasting for a while now.
It's been over a month, but I feel like these
last two weeks, I want you to succeed, You want
me to succeed. We're really like working on stuff, you guys,
like we are girl bossing it up.
Speaker 2: Kaya, I'm gonna cry. That's the nicest thing ever.
Speaker 3: Everything that you just said about me, saying that you
wouldn't want to discuss it with anybody else pouring into me.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I love being your friend. I loved listening to you
and Aaron on your podcast for years before we actually connected.
Speaker 2: But I it's.
Speaker 3: What like this is, this is like one of those
rare occasions when you watch someone either on TV or
you listen to them, then you become their friend and
you've been listening them for a while and like a
we could be friends, we could actually be friends and
then so yeah.
Speaker 2: It's basically like if I be remember how we talked.
Speaker 3: About Mia from Summerhouse, Like, it's basically like that becoming
friends with you. So I'm happy to be here. I'm
happy for the residency. Love sharing stuff with each other.
And we had technically have five kids together, Like we
have five shows that we're discussing and we share custody
with and we do it well.
Speaker 1: We do it. Well, we're great parents, and wow, okay,
let's just hop right into the finale. You guys, I
heard from so many people, and maybe it's just me
maymana bitch. I don't know both. I can be some sometimes,
like sorry for the crass language, but you already know
where you're at here, and if you don't welcome love,
you sit down and we're gonna cuss a lot. I
was not emotional. I think that I was just more
mad than anything, Like this whole thing is just so
angering to me that I am excited to get this
over with, to get to the reunion, and that's not
a good thing. You should want to watch the finale.
You should want to and also like you should want
to in that chapter, knowing that you're going into in
the City, which is supposed to be a new, hot,
fresh perspective. It was going to be. It was supposed
to be in Amanda, girl, you almost got away with it.
It was supposed to be you taking your independence back
for the first time in a decade, you standing up
for yourself, You deciding that you want to live alone,
you you know, deciding where you wanted to stay, what
you want to do, and who you wanted to be,
and showing us that Kyle is this horrible person who
goes out until six in the morning and leaves you
alone to deal with everything you tried in therapy, you
tried with your regular life. We've seen you for ten
years try to fix this man, and instead you actually
have me sitting up here defending Kyle Cook. And that
took a lot for me to do, so for you
to have me doing this, you must have fucked up.
And I can tell by the way you set the
end of Summerhouse Finale up and by the way you
open not the pickup scene, but the original opener to
end the city what you thought you were doing, and
it did not hit overall. The Summerhouse Finale was supposed
to be emotional. They are going into a new era.
They're closing the book on just Summer House. They're going
to their grown up show. So that's why they were crying,
dry heaving, And we don't know if this is the
last time that will be in this house like this,
the summer will never be the same. And if it
was like that, it would have been just emotional for me.
But because we have the elephant in the room, that
happens merely just months later, and we don't even know
if it's months later, because the way that we've been
watching this, we feel that it has been happening during Summerhouse.
It is sickening, and not in a positive way or
in like a melancholy Oh this is the end of
Summerhouse as we know it. We're gonna get a batch
of new people. It's never gonna be the same again.
It is just like, oh, wow, this girl is terrible.
What did you think of just the overall before we
get into the details of what happened of you know,
the Summer House Season ten finale.
Speaker 2: It was grown. It was gross.
Speaker 3: It was as gross as Amanda sucking blue cheese off
of a chicken wing. It was nasty. I felt grossed
out by the Amanda's like a Decepticon. She's like a robot,
Like I feel grossed out by her, like she like
her being like a fake friend. Sierra, her and West
noodling right in front of everyone's eyes.
Speaker 2: I felt grossed out.
Speaker 3: I agree, and it felt like My boyfriend even chimed in.
He was like, this feels like the end of the show.
This doesn't feel like the end of the Summer, and
it did feel that way because we as the audience,
don't want to tap in anymore. It's not fun. Summer
House should be fun. This situation not fun.
Speaker 1: Right, And it gave me that same icky feeling that
I got when La La did that rant on the
last episode of vander Pump Rules, and I knew that
Vanner Pump Rules is just done after this, and I'm like,
it would It shouldn't be that way because unlike Vietnam
Pump Rules, which had the Valley, which is supposed to
be not even like a continuation of Vandon Pump Rules.
It's supposed to be like brand new people and some
old people from Vandon Pump Rules. They had the perfect
setup for in the city, like, no, you get to
go on this journey with these people that you've known
for the past ten years. And instead of that, it's
more like, oh a manag just fucked this entire show up. Obviously,
Summer House is going to come back. She might be
back on Summer House, she might be back with Wes,
but it's just not the ending that we like deserved,
Like she ruined everything about it.
Speaker 2: She's there during the book that ruins the whole story.
Speaker 3: You ruined everything, and all you had to do was
not sleep with West.
Speaker 2: I mean it.
Speaker 3: You could have slept with Jesse, you could have slept
with Ben, you could have slept with a producer.
Speaker 2: You could have slept.
Speaker 3: With anybody, I mean anyone except for West.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing that would have been crazier
is if Amanda Fucksier is Dad. That would be be
the only thing that would have been crazier.
Speaker 1: The only thing. It's like, you had so many options, babe, Like, Okay,
let's just get into the episode. They still have the
opry Ski party going on. M I just want to
go from Wes and Jesse and Ben and Sabrina. Wes
basically tells Ben gets your girl because I'm not a
serious person. I'm a clown, which I'm just like, why
don't you just say it for yourself? Tell her if
you know that you feel like Sabrina is trying to
make you into someone that you're not trying to be.
Tell Sabrina, hey, I'm not trying to look for a relationship,
so maybe not invite us on double dates. And also
more importantly, tell Sierra that because you then go on
to make out with her multiple times and act as
if you were the first summer that you came into
that house. And the conversation that he has with been
that ached me out, and the conversation that he has
with Jesse as oh I tried to date her casually.
There was nothing casual about bringing that girl home to
meet your parents, ride your horses. Your dad is posting
pictures of her. You guys are going to what together.
You're spending so much time together. There was nothing casual
about that first parlay that you guys had together. It
is just him telling everyone but Sierra where his head is.
What did you think about that?
Speaker 2: That pissed me off?
Speaker 3: And it's not only the fact that he won't tell Sierra,
it's the fact that his actions stay otherwise. You are
leading her on. You are giving her the impression that
you like her. You are the one putting your leg
on her and sitting on her and going out of
your way to touch her and to try to keep
you in your room and pull her in your bed.
You are the one. So what are we talking about?
Telling Ben to talk to Sabrina and to not push
you guys, It's just it's just sick it's so weird,
and again, it just makes me feel like you won't
convince him and Amanda didn't plan for him to be
friends with Sierra but not do too much, and they
haven't been texting all summer. It's just gross, really gross.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Is just keep watching it and it's
like this poor girl is bouncing around thinking that everything
is fine and everyone knows how Sierra is. They try
to paint her to be this big bad that they're
scared of, but they even say, hey, we know that
Sierra is guarded emotionally, which if you're saying that out loud,
why are you continuing this behavior and surprised when she
reacts the way that she does, which is also not
enough in my opinion. She either cuts you off and
protects her peace and that's her boundary, or you guys
make her curse you out. And it's not even an
explosive kind of thing. It's just cutting, sharp, precise, accurate,
fact based words that you can't handle because you feel
uncomfortable about it.
Speaker 3: I just thought of something as you're talking that just
shook me, and I think I'm realizing that Jesse knew
about West having a secret girlfriend. Which is why he
didn't understand West's actions with Sierra and kept asking him,
what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm confused.
Speaker 3: And I think that's also why he didn't think Jesse,
I'm sorry, Amanda and West were a thing, because because
I think he thought that's not going to be possible
for Wes to balance three different girls. So he was
more focused on how Sierra is his friend and he's
taking advantage of her when he knows that West has
a relationship. And I think that's also why he assumed
that Ben did the same thing with Sabrina, because having
a secret relationship go on that people don't know about
was at the top of mine. So I'm just adding
that out there.
Speaker 1: No, that's a great observation because Jesse is not just
just saying these things. He's actually genuinely saying, hey, so
what's going on? And he's asking it in the voice
of someone who knows his friend and knows the tea
and knows what's going on behind the scenes. So that's
a good observation. And that is absolutely because because if
you guys don't already know, you guys know by now.
If you've been watching and listening to any of us
me or Leah that Mia is his girlfriend at this time,
and she has been for apparently a couple of years,
that Wes allegedly has an understanding with, and Jesse has
been on multiple podcasts and interviews even as recent as
today Wednesday, saying, Oh, I just thought they had an understanding.
So that is That's when I say, like looking back
at everything differently. I'm looking back at everything differently. These
therapy sessions, the way that the way that Jesse and
West are interacting, the way that Wes moves around Amanda
with the fact that you can pull up but also
like in real time, the fact that you can pull
up your chair to defend a married woman against her
husband who wasn't going to do anything to her. But
you can't. You can't follow her when she's in tears.
Speaker 3: You can't follow her mullet out the door. There's you
can see it. You can see that there's business in
the front, party in the back. Follow her, like where's
your sense of loyalty? Where's your tie from your girlfriend?
By the way, I can't. The whole situation enrages me
so bad. I you know what, It's.
Speaker 2: Almost like.
Speaker 3: Congrat like Amanda fucking take a bow, bitch, like you
did such a performance. You performed to your husband, you
performed to the house, you perform to your friends, you
performed to Sierra, you perform to your parents.
Speaker 2: You must be exhausted.
Speaker 3: And that's probably part of why you felt so guilty
and so emotional all summer, because you had a mess
of your own making that you were doing.
Speaker 1: I want to know. I know we're supposed to be
talking about the show, but I mean, it wasn't much
to it. They had the party, like they woke up,
they cleaned up after everyone said goodbye. During the party,
Lindsey is coaching Kyle. Kyle's a mess. Mess, that man
is in tears, that man is inconsolable, but he still
had the energy to go out and shake some mass
till six am. And usually I would get you for that, Kyle,
But the fact, the fact of the matter is is
that you are not the enemy right now, even though
you keep defending that bitch, but Kyle's a mess. She
will not talk to Kyle, and this gave her the
perfect excuse when it came to the end of you know,
getting out of the summerhouse to go to that hotel,
which I've decided to create the narrative that she either
met West or some other man at the hotel. But
in general, Kyle is trying to talk to her. She's
not trying to talk to him. She wants to jump
in the pool with everyone except Kyle. And you know,
Sabrina is trying to She just loves love, so her
and Ben are trying to make them kind of like reconcile,
while Lindsay is like, just give her some time. We
also have the coddling of Amanda telling him go fight
for her as she's being told to leave him. Yes,
it's two different parallels, like a movie almost like yeah,
and it's just like she gets coddled again. But we
start to see that Mia and Sierra are both like,
should he get off the pot, bitch. I can't imagine
how many off camera conversations that they've had with this
woman that we didn't even see.
Speaker 3: That's why I said, sender a bill. She'd be getting
the pretty little bill in the mail because the amount
of it's nauseating, Like it's nauseating.
Speaker 2: How much to And that's why I have a rule.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm so sorry, but I'm not friends with people
who are it's not that you can't be unhappy in
your marriage if that's your entire personality.
Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? Vent vent? There's nothing else to talk about?
Just my I hate my husband. This is going on.
Speaker 3: I can't like, I don't have friends in those situations
anymore because it's emotionally taxing and it's always just an
ear to lend instead of mutual support and reciprocity. And
then the moment you look at them sideways and act
and acknowledge that they're taking up too much space. They're
like pearl clutching. So Amanda exhausts me and it enrages
me for Mia and Sierra to wipe her tears. Amanda
doesn't deserve Sierra's friendship. She doesn't deserve to be friends
with black women. She doesn't deserve to have the pouring
in that coke goes on in friendships because she just
doesn't reciprocate and she just bitches about the same thing
every day. Both of your parents are alive, Okay, both
of your parents are speaking to you. You aren't alone
in this fucking city. You have a have brand deals
coming in. Be grateful for fifty five seconds of the day.
Speaker 1: Please, Oh my God, that's probably one of my favorite
rants that you gone on, because I famously listen to
bitches Better. But we talk about how someone online called
me delusional because I called Amanda rich and they were like,
she's not rich, bitch. Both of her parents are rich.
And I know that even if both of her parents
weren't rich. She's been on TV for a decade. Someone
who's been on TV for a decade had Windsor House.
Everyone forgets about Winster House. That's a second show. Now
she's won in a City that's the third show. Then
she had the creative director title upgraded from graphic designer
for Lover Boy. That's a job, quote unquote, that's a job,
like it's in absolute sane.
Speaker 3: I think Kyle never said that he stopped paying Amanda
a salary. By the way, too, like he said I
stopped taking a salary.
Speaker 2: I I can't like. It's just so much process. Sorry,
keep going, No, I.
Speaker 1: Was just about to get back to Kyle. The only
reason I'm saying I now sympathize with Kyle is because
on Summer House and in the City, we see just
how much he does for her. Obviously a husband, I'm
of the mind I'm paying maybe for like the food
or the light or whatever, and that's pretty much it
when I'm married. But if you want to go half
and half, that is your opinion. But I feel like
if we're in something and we're in it together, and
I know that you're two three four million dollars in
debt and I can help you out and I can
do more, I'm going to do more because one you're
my husband, and two it's both of our names on
the line.
Speaker 3: So get up there and pound the pavement, Amanda, go
be a real estate agent, which, by the way, Kyle
should have teamed up with Ryan Surhant because they just
have such similar personalities. And I think that if Kyle,
instead of being in sales, had done real estate, I
bet you he would have been a mogul.
Speaker 2: I bet you he would have been great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he has he has the ability to be
serious and to take on the man of the house role.
I think it's hard because we see him on Summer House,
which is partying mode. So if he spends Monday through
Friday trying to figure out how the fuck am I
going to make fifty five thousand dollars a month? On Saturday,
on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we're filming a show and
I'm able to send it. You can bet your bottom
dollar I'm going to be out drunk as a motherfucking skunk.
Speaker 3: The way I thought you were about to say, I'm
so sorry, didn't mean to cut you off, k the
way that I thought you were about to say a
euphoria reference. And that Monday through Friday they were going
to be filming porn or like cont your.
Speaker 2: Only fans, Like I thought we were about.
Speaker 3: To go like the Cassie Nate Jacobs route, like oh,
we need fifty five K a month, get Maddie easy.
Speaker 1: No to listen. That's a whole other conversation, which is
a great point. But do something a man to do
something girls. Yeah, Yet we're just we're just chatting, Okay,
we're just hating, Like this is a number one Amanda
hater session that's going on here, and I'm fine with
saying it. Are you fine with that?
Speaker 2: Can I be number two?
Speaker 1: Right? Fine? Thank you, thank you. It's just bitching about
it because I'm also seeing like this man is emotional
about losing his wife. Basically he's like, I've fucking done
it and this last weekend. I especially did it because
I lost my shit and I said fuck you to her.
And on top of that, I almost fought my best friend,
even though it wasn't a real serious fight. He's just
it's too much for him, and now she won't talk
to him. And it's like, if you didn't do what
you did, Amanda, I'd be like, good, ICE's asked, I
don't even a fuck, But because you did what you did,
and now I know all these things about you and
all the struggle that's on Kyle's back, Like obviously he's
at the end of the day, he's fine, he's on TV,
he's a white man. He will always be fine. But
it's like, yo, he got a lot on his plate,
and if he has a management deal in which you
see that at the end of the day, if you
don't like what he's doing, if he's not him being
a DJ is a problem for you, you leave simple because
he's decided that that's his passion. So it's been a
year of Kyle being a DJ. Naturally, if he is
making money doing this DJing stuff, it's like that meme
that I shared, go shake some ass next to him.
You should be pouring bottles of a cans a lover
boy down people's throat, helping him pay off this thing,
especially that we see you have the capacity to go
out to have fun, to be by your man, to
stand by your man, because you're doing it for Wes.
Kyle is just not the person that you wanted to do.
Speaker 2: This for exactly.
Speaker 3: And it's telling as well that Lindsay said on Watch
What Happens Live that Kyle's made more money in the
last five months djaying than he had basically the last
five years, and he not it. He agreed, like, yeah,
that's that's accurate. So it'd be one thing if he
made no money. It'd be one thing if he was
djaying at the bar from around the corner from your
apartment and did karaoke every Monday through Saturday and demanded
it was a priority and he brought home one hundred
dollars a night, that would be foolish and make no sense.
But if he's making money, and like you said, you
guys are four million dollars in debt, you guys cause
again remember no creen up. Okay, so technically what he
owes you owe. So unless he's just feeling like I
don't know. I don't know, but yeah, so basically co
signed what you just said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the Lindsay and Carl conversation, which is
nice to see. I think that they just miss each
other's friendship so much. And obviously carlss like I love Kara,
but Carl's a pussy, so he's not going to initiate
that conversation. They pretty much are just like Lindsay expresses,
your mom may be uncomfortable and overall what happened really
hurt me, and Carlo is like, oh, really, okay, I
need to hear that, which I'm like, okay, cool, they
in that. That's I'm just glad that they are friends again.
I still don't understand why this man is not on
in the city.
Speaker 3: Weird to me, Like, agreed, I don't get that. And
I do think I really do like Carl, and I
think he's changed a lot and grown a lot. But
I also think that sometimes, and like this conversation with
Lindsay is an example, I think sometimes now, whether it's
all of the steps that you go through in AA
or just all of the work that he's done in therapy,
or just a general fear of confrontation, I think that
sometimes he like okay, okay, yes, yes, his way out
of situations, and I think he like puts someone in
a situation where you almost feel like guilty to continue
being angry with him. But like, I think he seems
like a sincere person. But I can say, as I
was watching him talk to Lindsay, I wasn't sure if
it was entirely sincere or if he was placating her
to finish this conversation and acknowledge that like okay, okay, yeah,
I get it, and then be done with it sort
of I want to be friends again, which I understand,
and I like their friendship.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's a good point, because the person
that people try to make Sierra out the pee is
like I don't know why I said, Pete. The person
that people try to make Sierra out to be is
actually who Lindsay is. That's someone who you don't want
to blow up, who you don't want to yell at you,
who you don't want to be mad at you. And
a lot of the times it's valid, but some of
the times it's not. So Carl doesn't want to piss
off Lindsay, who is still by the way, taking shots
at him, and I love it like him.
Speaker 2: I love it too.
Speaker 1: Whack him again for me? Why not? But I can
see that maybe he just wants to just I'm sorry
and my way through it. But when he says it,
it's a little bit different than well, a lot of
bit different than the West I'm sorry, because he's just
gonna like, just shut up. He's just gonna not even
say anything. He said eleven words on the trailer, on
the trailer for the Summerhouse Reunion, and I fear that
it's probably half of what he said on the reunion.
Speaker 3: And that's why I said, and I'll say it again, Bravo,
pay me for this idea. Pay us mandate a word
count for reunion. You need to meet a word count.
If you don't walk out of here having said two
thousand words an essay. If you will, you're out. You
don't get paid. That's it, Like the same way as
if you take your mic off. When Tom Sandivil and
Raquel were threatened, right, Actually I don't know if they
were threatened. I just think I said on my TikTok
that I was the producer, I would have threatened them.
Speaker 1: But basically, you run a strict program.
Speaker 2: Leah, yeah, talk or no check, that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Dead ass literally, oh and you'll be fined Like like,
let's get him because this is sports for us.
Speaker 3: Okay, like yes, and he works it complex, so you
should love sports.
Speaker 1: Baby, you're a journalist. So what are we talking about? Okay,
let's get to the actual like nitty gritty Mia and
and Tierra babying Amanda and they stop because she says
I don't need to be handled cake gloves and be like,
I'm glad you said that, bitch. Get the fuck up
and get out or shut up.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what would a pissed me off
her saying that I did, Because what do you mean?
Speaker 3: You're a fragile flower. That's how you present yourself. You
are the eternal victim. You are a stopping mess.
Speaker 2: You don't radiate that.
Speaker 3: We can be honest with you and say, then get
your ass up and get fucking packed. In fact, if
you talk about this with me again, don't call me
for the next three weeks.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hang out with you.
Speaker 1: I love the program that you have in place, like
you guys, is a strict program and three week penalty
because you are not actually gonna do anything. And I
feel like I feel like, oh, that's that's fair because
like Mia and Sierra, we saw they are women of action.
They're like, okay, so we can make this and this
is what pissed me off, like really really bad. They
all are saying by very emotional. It feels like a transit.
Everyone's crying whatever, or even geniusly compared it to like
Bad Girls Club when like the two the bad Girls
leave at the end and they have something to talk
about and like they had to talk yeah, yeah privately.
It was just like that, so funny. But she lies
on Sierra, and that furiate like it took all any
emotion that I was supposed to feel other than like anger.
She lied on Sierra when she told Kyle they're sitting
on the porch, they're having this heart to heart. It
feels like obviously they knew that they were going to
be the last ones to leave, They knew that they
were going to be the last ones to film. They
knew that they were going to be on the porch.
But it feels like Kyle did not know genuinely that
his wife was about to say, I'm about to take
a break from you, and I'm leaving you. So she
tells Kyle, oh, the separation thing, I didn't actually want that,
because we were literally doing better. We literally saw you
say to Sierra the day that she suggested it, and
also when you were just in bed with me and Sierra.
You guys are saying everything that I want to say.
So why the fuck did you feel the need to
get on that fucking stool, you fucking pigeon and lie
on Sierra and say that you never said that because
you felt that you guys are in a better place.
That is a straight up lie. And then you go
and use that and you say, but out of nowhere,
because this mean is thinking whatever, We're just gonna go
home and we're gonna fight it out and start our
new show. She's like, but since we got into that argument,
you said fuck you and you fought Carl, which Carl's fine,
So I don't know why we're acting like he killed
Karl or something. She used as an excuse. I'm not
going home with you. I'm going to go to a
hotel for a few days. After completely ignoring him all night,
you bitch. God, I can't believe I could not believe
what I was seeing. And I never feel bad like
for men straight men like I just don't. But in
that moment, I'm like, she's doing all this shit on camera,
and then on top of that we have to deal
with like what we know now even then was crazy
how she did that to decide that she's not going
to leave with her husband, but for you to lie
on Sierra as if she didn't like agree with her,
and then use it as a scapegoat to decide, Okay, now,
because you did this at the dinner table, I'm gonna
leave and go to a hotel. That girl's pure bona
fide evil.
Speaker 2: I can't I can't get over.
Speaker 3: First of all, I knew Kyle was going to drag
his feet so that they would be the last ones
there so they would have that conversation like they're they're talking.
But yeah, to sit there on the stoop and say
that Sierra. You your response to Sierra was I might
consider that, but we're good right now. I'll consider it
if I have to. And you try to act like
you're validating Kyle. You knew that this was You knew
that this was over. You had known that this was over.
Eventually you admit that you knew that this was over
before getting into summer, right, so you are you were
already out. And this is what I hate the most, Like,
I truly hate this. I'm like, I feel bad for
Kyle and yet simultaneously, hmm, Like I have. We've seen
the way that Kyle talks to Amanda over the years,
and I know that women who experience emotional abuse that
it is just as painful and bad for your health
as physical abuse. There's there's not one form that's worse
than the other. So I know that Amanda had to
go to therapy and she had to figure out how
to leave this relationship, and she had to figure out
how she was feeling. And she felt resentful of Kyle
because she had to mother him, because he was always
the one who got to let loose and she always
had to watch what he's doing. But at a certain
point leave the situation, like you had options to leave
him and choose the horror route, which is figuring out
how to live without him and be independent and start
over and do things that are healthy. And especially because
I've had to do that before with like a very
serious relationship, I don't empathy runs dry, like you know,
like get out of the situation and just speak your mind,
Like why are you? I don't know if it's trying
to look like a good guy on TV or if
you really just can't be honest with Kyle. She said
something about how she wasn't ready to lose him. It's
just I don't believe anything that comes out of her
fucking mouth, Like I don't know what to think anymore.
She hasn't made herself a reliable narrator, so everything I
thought I knew about her I don't.
Speaker 2: That's all. I just feel confused.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is completely valid because she is saying
one thing to one person and another too, and that
it just makes more sense why her wess got along
the way that they did, but the difference.
Speaker 3: Which to be clear too. Also, I have no empathy
for how she talked about Zierra. It's a big fuck
you for that, fuck you for lying again. Just be honest.
What is there to protect at this point? Your therapist
told you you guys hate each other, No one thinks
you like each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Even when she when they first went
to therapy, during this whole time, she's like, oh yeah,
our love stories sound like a horror story. Huh, what
the fuck is funny about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You also have like all these different resources. I know
how hard it is get out. Obviously, anyone can go
through it, you can be in the public eye. But
it's like Kyle. The fact that Kyle is not home
all the time, the fact that Kyle is cheating on you,
you let you tell it multiple times. He wouldn't like
the whole separation thing, but look at how easily you
just did it.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. I don't believe Kyle would have.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, Like, I don't discredit how he's
treated her, but I don't think that he would get
retaliative with her.
Speaker 2: I don't think that he.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't get I don't get that vibe
from him.
Speaker 2: I think he would have been disappointed. I think he
would have cried.
Speaker 3: I think they would have argued, and then I think
he would have just let it happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he would have accepted that. Like, that's the
vibe that I get from Kyle too. We're in agreement
about that. So basically, they go to the hotel, then
we get into in the city, which we're gonna zoom
through because I I don't know about in the city.
I will be watching it how he's talking about it,
but I don't know if it's going to be as
much as I would a summer house or our real
housewives that were going through. Yeah, especially because we listen, baby,
I came here for love. It's summer. I don't want
to hear no bitching, no moaning. I am here for love. Baby,
it's Love Island time. I came here.
Speaker 2: Through my head.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you can sing on YouTube chats.
I have the money, but it's so fun. Summers are fun.
Summers should be fun. Sierra literally has this job on
Love Island also, so we have like that blessing of her,
and then we're gonna know that she she might be
back at the summer house. I don't know she's let
TMZ tell it. They know everything, but bitch, they don't
know shit. You know exactly. I love that you know nothing,
John snow TMC. So I don't know she might be
at summer house. She might not. Part of me hope
that she does it because they need to live with
what they've done. They need to film with her and
they need to feel uncomfortable. But another part is is
that she's too big. She's a diva, she's a supermodel.
Rihanna knows who she is. Everyone is rooting for her,
go by Fly my Baby. But then she goes into
Dancing with the Stars also, so we're we're like, it's
it's getting better for Sierra. Because I don't know if
you guys notice, but I did not talk much or
even mentioned. I don't tell me if I did. I
don't think I mentioned that Wes and Sierra made out
like it just traumatized me so much that I was
maybe just mentioned it when I was talking about like Jesse,
that's it. Yeah, they made out, and it was I
wanted to throw up because I'm just like this, poor
fucking girl. But whatever, we are in the city. They
have a pickup scene filmed April ninth. Important that was
the tenth day that I was on her ass.
Speaker 2: Let's the record reflect.
Speaker 3: Relaying into you when you got filmed here exactly.
Speaker 1: I was on my tenth day, on my tenth run,
and I'm like and then he comes in, he babies her.
He's like, are you okay? You're so skinny? Are you
eating me? You still have your key, Like, oh, you're
tummy hurts, and I'm just like, oh, bitch, bye, she
just lost some of her titties. That's literally it.
Speaker 2: I will say her arm. Look, I'm gonna say one thing.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not having empathy for Amanda, because again
I don't.
Speaker 2: But she looks sick.
Speaker 3: She looks emaciated, like when she said that, I'm like,
and I hate this whole, Like, don't say anything about
women's bodies like that are too thin. No, like if
it's unhealthy, like, let's talk about it. Like she looked
a mess, Like I don't know if she's not eating
or if she's microdosing a GLP one, but she did
look a mess. But hated Kyle babying her. But I'm
glad he told her that she looked a mess because.
Speaker 1: But you came in there literally dressed like west to
your husband's house who you literally got bucked with. And
I think that that's what, Like you make a good point,
like if someone is literally changing their appearance and they're
in the public eye at a certain point, when do
we talk about it. It's like the Ariana Grande thing,
It's like the Cynthy vote thing like in general. So yeah,
so it's April ninth, and like this is after? Is
this after the baseball game? Like I wonder when that was.
Speaker 2: Let's see, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: That really would make things like so different. And I'm
like going to my own YouTube when I.
Speaker 2: Was like, I go, so was April eighteenth?
Speaker 1: It was okay? So it was before the baseball game?
And was it before or when they were out in
the bars? I think that, Yeah, I think this is okay.
So this is before she got comfortable being out in public.
All right, girl, you're safe for now. That was when
she was pretending that her mental health was so fragile
and she's just so fucked and so, you know, feeling
so terrible about the situation that she's not eating and
she's not sleeping. But she definitely was fucking Wess because
you came there dressed like less and that's why I
don't have any sympathy for you. You came there. They're
talking about their marriage. Kyle is trying to say, hey,
what did this shit start? Because looking back on the summer,
thinking about things, it is literally insane, and she basically
is like the fact that you're even questioning my faithfulness
is crazy. She starts to cry, and I'm like, what's
crazy about that? Because why are you fucking wess?
Speaker 2: Did you watch the footage? Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Think back quickly and did you watch it? Like it's
insane that she even said that, And then we get
into I guess some people call it semantics, but it's not.
It's literally like what happened? She is trying to put
it on Kyle that he cheated. Remember you cheated. The
tears stopped. She's like, you cheated on me. And then
on top of that, when we were married, you made
out with that girl and he's like, well, that was
never there's video footage this any kind of like like
any time that she's able to not come across as
someone who is not playing victim, she takes that and
she flips it on the other person, whether it be
Sierra in the leaked audio, whether it be Lindsey on
the reunion trailer where she's like, have we not We've
never been in that situation, by the way, I have
never even as a teen. Whether it is Kyle who's
trying to figure out just figure out the timeline because
he's looking back on things differently, it's insane that she
instead of just finally humbling herself and admitting and even
if you don't want to tell the truth, just being
soft with the person that you hurt. It's not we're
not talking about Kyle's situation right now. We're talking about
you and the shit that you put yourself in. She
just turns defensive, and that is the problem that will be,
That is her downfall, because I believe that she would
be able to bounce back. She will bounce back because
and at the end of the day, she's a straight
white woman, blonde hair like. She's fine. She's gonna be fine.
Someone will take a company will take her. She'll figure
something out even if she doesn't have to. She also
has rich parents, she has a whole show. She's gonna
be invited back to summerhouse like it will be up to.
Speaker 3: Her to see get invited on traders or something or
have civilians like.
Speaker 2: She'll be fucking fine.
Speaker 1: She has a route back. But it's just so annoying
to see her not for one minute, just take shit,
take to eat the shit. Because you got yourself into
it and whatever the plan was, it didn't work. It
was clear that you had a plan. It was clear
that you've been trying to make Kyle the bad guy.
It was clear that you went through Summerhouse and in
the city, as we see as we get into the
actual episode with this plan of Okay, Kyle looks terrible,
people are gonna be rooting for me, and like that
was it. But it did not work. You guys got caught.
And when I say caught, you guys got caught. You
did not just come out and say it. People had
to literally see you together. You had to turn off
your location, you had to be caught through the window
like you were caught. Then, Jig is fucking up? Stop?
What is your problem?
Speaker 2: Why I need to know?
Speaker 3: In any other situation, I would say that this is
absolutely invasive, do not do this. But just for the
lens of curiosity, and because if I was Kyle, I
would feel like I was going crazy at this point
and I would just want to know the truth.
Speaker 2: I think it would be completely.
Speaker 3: Justifiable if he like how he pays their rent, paid
for their phone bills, to just go back and look
to see when those late night text messages started frequently
between Amanda and West, because I want to know. I
would want to know when they started, because Amanda acts like,
although I do believe it was physical, don't care when
they admit to it. But I do believe it was
physical earlier than fucking March. Give me a break. I
think it was physical last summer. But she acts like
an emotional affair isn't still an entire issue itself.
Speaker 2: Even if you hadn't. The way you acted with him
is not okay.
Speaker 3: The way that you act in your friendships is weird,
like you're like those guys who can't have friends who
are girls.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like you, Amanda.
Speaker 1: Literally, because we see with Ben that they had a
whole like we were like checking low. Let's see if
a man does something with Ben, we don't pant the
wrong guy. And then Raven also pointed out she kiss
Jesse on the lips, Oh my god. And I was like,
I thought it was like a cheek kiss. I mean,
she kissed Jesse on the lips.
Speaker 2: She says, I love you too much. And that's the thing.
We love showing affection to our friends.
Speaker 3: I love it, but my friends don't also comment nice
cans like no straight None of my straight friends comment
like nice cans that our straight men no I don't want.
Speaker 1: That, especially ones that the audience thinks that you look
good with, Like we have to remember this is the
third person from the show that and it turns out
she's actually involved in this one. But first it was Jesse,
then it was Been, now it's Wes. But you're ran through,
like it's insane. She was like.
Speaker 2: Testing out options at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think for Kyle's mental health, I totally
agree with that whole thing about like possibly going through
the phone records because you just can't trust a single
thing that she says. She lies and also Wes lies
point blank and the period so that's just like she's
not gonna because if you say give me your phone,
of course it's like it's she's deleted all the evidence.
But then also the lines get blurred between because there
was all that time that they spent together when he
was off DJing and they were like posting together and
they had like these little cute, cute friendly photos, and
I just really hate what this does for male and
female friendships in general, because it's like I do have
male friends and they do not want to fuck me.
I do not want to fuck them, and we can't
get like handsy, but not in this way that she's handsy.
And yeah, so she she's just running through these men.
Speaker 3: It's wait, you know that song that's like men Live
Women Lime and Lime Women, LII need to make like
a remix. It's like a.
Speaker 2: Menda lies by Slies, Menal lies by Slies mena lies
by Slies Like they sounds like it. Mandy lyes, what's
like you can use the m.
Speaker 1: And oh my god, shout out of Georgio. Georgio says
he does a great remixes. He did the move West
song that I believe Kyle played for like a little bit.
So Georgio, get on it, baby. So yeah, so she
just gets defensive. She's like, oh, but you cheated on me,
Oh but you made out after we got married. And
it's like this is not this don't have shit to
do with fuck And we just get into like in
the city and we get to know the people are
in the city who It's like, I don't know if
I'm even ready to like dive in on these.
Speaker 2: Like I'm ready to dive in on that.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to. Yeah, are you okay with that?
Can we just talk about the like important shit?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just talk about the important shit. I don't.
Speaker 3: The only note I have real quick about the cast
is I did didn't I knew Whitney or immediately was
on The Bachelor. Didn't know what I was going to
think of her because don't.
Speaker 1: Season is she from?
Speaker 2: But I needn't remember it has made for recent.
Speaker 1: That was literally one of my main things that I
wrote down. I was like, which season.
Speaker 2: She must have been on?
Speaker 3: Either Rachel Lindsay's season or right after, because Rachel said
that that's her friend and not to drag Whitney, that
she's a nice girl.
Speaker 2: So I saw that and I was like, oh, I'm
across this.
Speaker 1: Was Whitney from the Valley. Oh not the Valley. I'm
so stupid in the city on of The Bachelor. Of course,
serious worthless.
Speaker 3: Let the record reflect as well that what I was
trying to eat was these pasta noodles that they made
into a chip and it was cocao catchaw e pepe
flavor ooh. And I don't know if I love it,
but I think that it would be good. You think
it would be No, I don't think it would I
don't think I like it, and I don't know why
I picked this flavor, so let the record reflect, don't
get tantos.
Speaker 1: She was on Nick Vile season and then she went
back on season six a Bachelor in Paradise. So I
think there is now a bachelor to Bravo pipeline because
we already have Ashley I and now we have Whitney,
and then we also had before either of those. We
have Homegirl from Southern Hospitality that went to Southern Charms.
Speaker 2: Allen Jasmine from the Valley. It was Nickvile season.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. I hate to see it. Beautiful women, terrible man,
but I guess I understood the appeal before he got
into the woman's world, which is podcasting. So don't care
about these new people Whitney's from Nick Vile season. I
think that I will care a little bit more next
week because I was just so are itching to see
what was going on that I just don't have time
to unpack some of the things that were said by
the new people. So basically, Amanda and Kyle are going
to therapy. The therapist is basically like, you guys hate
each other, insane.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of a marriage therapist say that tap
in marriage family therapist, but I appreciate an honest therapist.
I guess I want to say too, Like.
Speaker 3: Quick again, this is the only part where I'm like,
I hate that Amanda did what she did. I hate
that she fucked West because if she hadn't, I would
listen to this and my ear would think differently. I
would think, Wow, Amanda's been outwardly resenting Kyle, but Kyle
hates her enough to the point where the therapist picked
up on it and said, you guys both hate each other.
Speaker 2: But now I don't really care. I'm like, of course
he hates her.
Speaker 3: She's he's been feeling her slip away and into the
hands of their friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for and even if before that, now it's like
for years because she's been done with Kyle. Yeah, he's
just she's just been and also with this whole Jesse
to been think she's just been kind of flirting open
in her marriage. They had an open marriage with her participation.
Kyle was just the one who decided to act on
it physically.
Speaker 3: I guess it was the closer, I guess between the
two of them, But Amanda was putting out emotional feelers
for sure, fucking slam pig.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then we also get to we also get
my new Englanders know what's up. We also get to
know that Kyle he put his petty pants on, which
I love. Yeah, he was like, well, bitch, while we're
at it, you owe me three years are rent and
maybe you should move out. Hey, And this is for
my bitch in the comments who said, oh, you're delusional,
Amanda's not rich. She literally said that she paid him
one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars of three rents, three
years of back pay like it was nothing, mind you.
That is her husband. The way I would be like,
I'm not paying you a goddamn thing. That's the only
thing that I was like, oh hell no, like you
must be out of your mind. But it helped my
point this, which is rich, and she could have been
helping him with the debt that they have. We just
have one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars just lying around
and you're still taking a salary from lover boy, Like
come on, you are just such a spoiled princess that
that's why you didn't want to leave. Like she's like, oh, well,
then now I got to figure out this debt part too.
Kyle in the closet. When he was like, I think
she just.
Speaker 2: Doesn't want to figure it out by herself.
Speaker 1: I said, that's what I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1: I when I'm starting to think, that's what I'm starting
to think.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I love that I talked about that on Bitch is Better.
I'm like that I've been using that when I've been
making like decisions and conclusions about things that I completely
made up. I'm like, that's what I'm starting to think,
Like it's so simple yet effective. And also what's the delio?
What is.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, what's the delio? Like when he
said that, I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, that is someone's uncle right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, though, because when you're talking about the part where
he said and by the way, pay me three months rent,
is this when she has her trench coat on?
Speaker 2: Or is this still in the apartment?
Speaker 1: Oh, he doesn't say it, like on camera she's like
talking to Lindsay in the the grocery store or some
shit or whatever.
Speaker 3: Okay, we should have came with trench coats buttoned and
like me and Tomable text each other trench coat button
to the top. Because the way that she showed up
like that and Kyle being like nice raincoat, like in
the middle of them arguing, it's not a raincoat.
Speaker 1: I hate not faeton, I hate Okay, if I went
into a deeper fuck paddingson Bear and Amanda looks like
Paddington Bear, so you can go to a bitch is
better to find out what? So basically they have a
terrible therapy session. They get off of the subway and
they are arguing in the middle of a New York
City street. Imagine being a summerhouse fan and you see,
first you see Kyle and Amanda in the subway, and
then you see them on a New York City street arguing.
They would have caught my ass in the background, literally
like looking in and dropping in.
Speaker 3: I'm invasive enough at this point, I would have gone
up to them, no.
Speaker 1: Shit, I'm like, what's going on you guys feeling?
Speaker 3: Would you guys like to comment for positively uncensored on
what's happening in your marriage right now?
Speaker 1: Because Kyle has those staged fucking interviews with the guys,
So why not, like, let's started early, babes. Yeah, and
she knew that she know down well because basically they're
going to a little event, a little bar gathering with
the friends and she's just like, I'm not going I'm hot,
and he's like, you're in a raincoat and this is
not a raincoat. She leaves and I'm just like, you
are in a raincoat. Now it's like she's I use
like the I used so many emojis to describe her,
but most recently it's been the foot emoji because she
has dirty feet, and then now I'm going to find
a raincoat emoji.
Speaker 3: She's always dressed for weather that she doesn't need to be.
Even at the Yankees game she looked like she was
going fly fishing, and those like rubber boots and the
camo and the Jork and then now she has a
raincoat on, like where are you going?
Speaker 2: You live in the city, Like, well, I don't know
what you think.
Speaker 1: And everyone used to be like, she's so cool, she
dresses so cool, she's so cool. No, she's just skinny.
Well the big kitties.
Speaker 2: Yet that's always been it. Yes, that's it, that's it.
That's it.
Speaker 3: Exactly, because even the swimsuits, I'm sorry, there was nothing.
Speaker 2: There was no cute designs.
Speaker 3: What was that the bikini line that was You're not
a fashion icon.
Speaker 2: I she's not.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have that style. And you know what, I
famously say that Page doesn't really have like good good style.
She just does like a you look good in a
two piece like a set. She eats a setup. But
that's not like having style. But this is not about Page.
This is about Amanda. Caught a couple of strays though,
like just because I'm really into people who do dress nicely,
and there are people who dress nicely and can put
an outfit together, and there is a difference between being
skinny with big titties and also just wearing a two
piece set dressed like any Frian like okay yea. So
we find out different things like you know, pay the
pay the rent, and then we find out like how
defensive she is. We find out that the even the
therapist is like, you guys need to break up. She
finally decides okay. They go to a four year anniversary
of their marriage. She orders Mozzarelli Stix in Cavia, and
it just seems like she's like, at the end of
the day, we are going to celebrate our anniversary. That's
what we're here for. And she buries the lead again
like she did on Summer House. When she started that
conversation on the porch saying like, you know what, I didn't.
I thought we were doing better. And then she was like,
but actually I'm leaving. She buries the lead again. We're
celebrating our anniversary. We made it for years, things haven't
been going the best, and then she goes, I'm gonna
move out, and then Kyle is like trying to like say, okay, well,
if you're going to do this, i am, and she's
like no, So like she makes it such a She
thought that this was going to come off as like
a girl boss, I'm taking my power back. You heard
me bitch on Summer House about how I want to leave.
Now I'm actually doing it, and you guys are gonna cheer,
And it came off as no, you're just being a
fucking cut again because he's just trying to say, Okay,
that's not what I want. But if that's what's gonna happen,
she and she just cuts him off, cuts him off,
cuts them off. I don't need your blessing. I don't
care what you're about to say. I'm leaving. I'm just
telling you, Okay, he heard you, I heard you, we
heard you. Shut up.
Speaker 3: Agreed, I completely agree, Like, this is awkward. This is
your guys' date. You guys are in a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Why did you come? Why does she do this? Why
do you go to therapy? Why do you go on
the on the dates? Why do you go to bed
with this man when you are like, oh, I don't
want to be in bed with someone who comes in
bed and three am. You're doing these things as if
you're being forced to do them when a lot of
the times they are optional or your idea.
Speaker 3: Right, And you also knew that this was a celebration
of your relationship. So unless you're gonna start the date
out like homage to Lindsay Hubbard and do a toast
and be like ting ting, we're just gathered here today
so that we put these four years behind us, I'm
moving out. Like fine, Okay, started off that way, but
like you said, you buried the lead. You said at
the last minute, and you tried to think that it
was gonna be a moment that's gonna land where you
say no, I don't.
Speaker 2: Need your permission, I'm doing this. I'm doing this, and
it's like, okay, get her done.
Speaker 1: I guess go do it right? Then leave. Now the
fuck are you get them? Pick up them? Hey?
Speaker 2: Half the tab I don't know what to say. Bye.
Speaker 1: It's just so annoy and it's I can't wait until
the second episode so I can care more about these
new people that we're meeting, because there is something.
Speaker 2: Lindsay so much too sorry to cut you off again.
Speaker 1: No, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: I hate that, Like I wanted to see Lindsay as
a new mom, and then we're gonna have to see,
like Lindsay said, then get closer this summer and Amanda's
in those scenes.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. It's just it's just so annoying because I
am just like you could have at least I don't know,
like I I don't see. I also don't know where
do you think it is that she went wrong at?
But other than obviously like doing this in general, but
like what what where did they fuck up at that
they got caught the way that they did, Like what
was the original plan? When was she going to be
honest about the state of her mayriag Because like we
got those whole flashing those flashing news articles at the
beginning of the show about them announcing that they're separating,
that wasn't until February or was it February January? January, February, January,
I think something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like end of January, Yes, end.
Speaker 1: Of January, beginning of February. That's type because it was
before the Super Bowl, which she had been with West,
and West was yere. Oh. It just pushes me off
so bad. But I'm like, so, at what point were
you going to be honest about the state of your
relationship and the way how are you going to break
this off? Like when? Because I'm seeing you continue to
lie about where you're at with Kyle and then obviously
lie you lie about Wes because you're asked straight up
by multiple people. Even had a two hour conversation with
Jesse Solomon convincing him that they weren't together. So what
did you think was going to happen? Get done? Bitch?
Speaker 3: I The only realm that I could have seen it
to be okay for her to try things with West
is if she fights her feelings for fifteen years and
she's forty seven years old and she's still single, and
Sierra hasn't talked to him, and she's happily married and
she's got kids, or she doesn't whatever she wants, and
she's like, oh my god, Westling Wilson, is that you?
And he's like, yeah, Mandy, And then they have that
weird like we're too old to be acting like this
moment and maybe they rekindle and have some weird relationship.
That's the only timeline that I could see it being like,
oh my god, you'll never guess who I ran into West,
And then fifteen years down the line when she's approaching
fifty any timeline before then, I can never understand it.
And my thing is Amanda said it herself in the
audio that we heard. She knew the moment that her
and West did anything, expressed feelings, flirted, did anything, that
that was going to be the end of her in
Zerra's friendship.
Speaker 2: So you, however, you thought this was going to go.
Speaker 3: If you thought that you guys were just going to
fling around for two weeks and then hopefully never tell
anybody about it and no one would find out or
be the wiser, no matter what it was worth it
to you, like you risked it. So I don't even
think that they cared if it went well or not.
At the point where they just locked in almost.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I just don't see, like I'm trying
to follow the timeline and I'm like, what was the
original plan?
Speaker 3: The personal plan probably make West be friends with Sierra,
audience like him again, root for him because of how
he defends Amanda in her marriage, and then the audience
they would try to trap with Sierra into being okay
with it, and Amanda wouldn't have to be the person
who pushes it because they would sit up on watch
What Happens Lives Together, and there would be a lot
of questions about why Sierra is upset when she can
tell that there's chemistry and why would she hold the
relationship back so.
Speaker 1: Good because even thinking about it, like, let's just say
we didn't witness any forty moments. Let's just say we
also didn't witness that moment at the end of the
episode where it looks like they got caught by Sierra
when Lindsay was like, oh, it's Sierra, and then they
both like jump, what the fuck was that about. Let's
just say none of that happened. September first is when
they leave the house and all the thirty first is
literally the last your kissed made out with Wes, so
some from September to February. It's still a very short
amount of time to think that you can do anything
with your friends, ex, co workers, ex anyone's ex especially
as someone who is fronting that that is when their
marriage is like ending. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's all crazy. You it's just not shocking. They don't
respect each other, Kyle and Amanda. But like the fact
that Amanda, and that's one thing, right, Like, Okay, you
and your husband don't respect each other. You don't respect
him anymore, he's a man, Okay. But the fact that
you don't respect your friends, like your girlfriends, who have
poured into you and supported you and rebuilt you and
built you up and helped you see yourself as others do.
Fuck you. You're just an energy waste.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the show goes, oh, she
goes and she drops the tea on Lindy and new
people and she's like, guess what I heard. And they
put up the shout out bravo in cocktails who has
a tea all the time? They put up the Bravo
in Coxshills. Thing that Danielle is with a married man,
something that will dive deeper into probably next week for sure,
but she's like she's with a married man as a
whole wife, and I'm just like.
Speaker 3: Rich, Rich, I'm shook by Danielle catching the pregnancy bouquet
at Whoever's wedding. They said that she caught the bouquet
and then she's like now pregnant, like you said, And
that's the same guy, right like. And also I'm zoning
out partially because I have his name written down and
it's spelled EO I N and I that shook me
for a very long time.
Speaker 1: I'm Owen, yeah, yeah, and then they put pronounced owen
and I'm.
Speaker 3: Just like I did sit there and write every single
cast member's name how it would be spelled if it
was spelled like how with the reason they share in
the the they did Owen. My boyfriend did Danielle because
he didn't like mine, so he started it with a
B and then he spells it d A N.
Speaker 2: Y E L for Kyle.
Speaker 3: I did a C to start his name and then
the letter to say A I L Kyle uh for
Yvonne Lindsay's friend. I started it with an I, and
I did I E V O N. This is what
I did instead of paying attention to the show mind you.
And then for Amanda, I did. I started with a
u sou so n u m a n d unmandu
basically uh, but that made sense in my head and
I was shook by that.
Speaker 1: And she acts like an Amandu. Yeah, she acts like
amand without that cheating and lying, she acts like Aman
do That's perfect.
Speaker 2: Get the merch the merged.
Speaker 1: She acts like a band raggedy bitch. But yeah, that
was summerhouse, and that was in the city. Melancholy but
more angering for me. A lot of people were really
sad over it. They felt They're like, oh, this feels
so sad, it's so emotional, my god. And I'm like,
maybe I'm just like too far removed from my emotions
or too tapped into anger to feel the way that
a lot of people did.
Speaker 3: No, I think that that's a completely I think that
that's a completely valid way to feel. I think that
I felt anger. I think that I felt infuriated. I
think I felt at times exasperated because I just want
to usher Sierra and Amiya away from Amanda, like get
away from her, get a job, like just go in
the city, no, yes, or like get an umbrella and
like slowly like put her back with it to kind
of to match her raincoat. Yeah, exactly, here you go,
and you're always prepared for the weather.
Speaker 2: Get on out.
Speaker 1: You are a wet blanket. You're boring, bitch, exactly.
Speaker 3: That's the partnership she should have done instead of like
whatever she did, like some Lola blanket, she should have
done the wet blanket.
Speaker 1: Oh, Lola said, Lola said blankets. I love Lola came
out and I was like, I don't know who's went,
that's the TikTok dupe, but that are a blanket. And
I'm like, I know that's right. That's why I'm like
Lola blanket on my list, like whatever Sierra's promoting, like
DSW she just did like a deal with so I'm like,
I guess I need some shoes shell. But when Lola
blanket came out and was like, that's not us, I'm like,
Lola blanket like them.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what I was going to say too.
I'm sorry I was going to say this too.
Speaker 3: I think that a specially for black women watching the show,
it just has to be infuriating, like and it has
to be triggering from the standpoint of it's just hard
to watch or what like whether you've had a similar
situation or friends have Like I just feel like, yeah,
like that that makes sense that it takes so much
out of you emotionally and other women who are watching,
because it's it's a reminder or a microcosm of like
this is how white women act, like in friendships a
lot of times is there's no reciprocity or genuine care
or seeing me as I'm seeing you, And I just
I get why that would be extremely painful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it just takes It takes me, like the
amount of playing in her face that you've done and
the amount of time that I put in to make
you understand. Like also just like what I go through
in general when I first heard about it being true,
not only is it obviously terrible just from a girlhood standpoint,
in the relationship standpoint, but it just took me back
to the election finding out like how many people voted
for this horrible man? When it's like we're on the
same page now, right right, Okay, we're finally together, and
it's just like no, like behind my back, you go
and you literally do the same thing over and over again.
Speaker 3: It makes me so sad and it makes me so
upset and angry that every time white women have a
chance to show their ass and just to not do
anything meaningful, impactful, right, morally correct, it's just a cycle
over and over and over again. And it's just like,
at a certain point, doesn't it get so exhausting to
only care about yourself? I feel like that would be
an exhausting fucking perspective.
Speaker 1: Literally, because isn't it. It's just so much much more
fun to have other people like in your life, especially
meaningful friendships that is not your relationship, especially when you
have a relationship that is so shitty or that you
want us to believe it's so shitty because we don't know.
At this point, we don't even know this much. It's
duplessitess like, we don't know. But that's in the city.
Just quick comments on ro Hoals and Rhode Island. I
broke it down with Ryan Bailey like fully, but God
bless these women, God bless them, Joe Ellen and Jen
and her mom. I'm just so glad that it was
a positive conversation that they had about her childhood and
about the things that happened in you know, her mom
basically saying that I didn't know how to be a
mother because my mom was so bad at that. So
it was just good to see, like and understand where
Joellen comes from.
Speaker 2: Agreed, I wanted that perspective.
Speaker 3: I was really curious to see this conversation, and I
was just kind of curious to see what her mom
looked like too. I was just curious to see it all.
Speaker 1: Right in Jen's relationship versus like Joellen's relationship, and.
Speaker 3: Jen had her back for a moment, like she was like, yeah,
like validated, No, we did, we did feel this way,
and joe Ellen worse really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So I'm just glad that they had
that realization and it wasn't like a bron Win situation
because Bronwin's mom was just my god, or even definitely
go back to Positively Uncensored and watch uh Leah interview Britt's.
Speaker 3: Daughter, Oh my god, yes, yes, to hear about Britney's
relationship with her daughter, which was also tumultuous and fucking
exasperating to watch.
Speaker 1: Definitely go watch that's a good episode. I think it's
depenned on YouTube. And the other big thing is obviously
Alicia and Brian went over to see after driving there,
which is half the struggle freaking she went over there
and Rula, Oh god, it's like I don't know, like
he was amped up on something. Might have been the
tequila shots, but you know.
Speaker 3: It was awkward even when they were standing there trying
to make small talk with the chef and whoever else
was there.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe she's like their event coordinator, dinner coordinator or she
I don't I don't really know what her job was,
like the Sioux chef potentially, but like that was so awkward,
trying to cose play like they spend time together and
trying to has play like this would be a normal night.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was so awkward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alicia was like, I don't want to know what
Brian is doing. Billy is there, like oh, well, you
don't have to you don't have to say anything if
you don't want to say anything, and they just sit
there and they have dinner and she's like, I know
what you did last summer, and it's so funny last
week actually, and it's like a reference, so I know
what you did last summer. But obviously the real beating
potatoes of this episode is Rosie and Kelsey Baddie's style, Like,
my god, what a hilarious thing from beginning to end.
Kelsey pulls up with a siren and Rosie is like this,
this is a neighborhood with a no siren ordinance, which
I found out was a real thing. Do you know
if your neighborhood has a no siren ordinance. I'm not
in a neighborhood. I live off a main road like Dery.
Speaker 3: I know that reference at least, even though I do
not watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. But no, definitely
no siren. Definitely not that ordinance here. They they're sirens
all the time.
Speaker 1: Yes, So she comes in and she comes with the
siren and Rosie is like, I know you fucking mine.
She brings her hair product suitcase in because she's supposed
to be giving Rosie a haircut, and Rosie is like,
I'll post it for the bitch of this time. They
get to talking and they go back and forth and
it's just it goes from zero to a hundred. But
you can just tell that Rosie was really annoyed that
Kelsey came in there on that bullshit. And Kelsey was like, oh,
I thought that we can play and joke with each
other like that we were at that point. I'm like,
how did you think that you least that the last
conversation you had was terrible, so why did you do that?
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: It's insane. So Rosie is just like she talks about
how she don't have no man, she don't have a
place to stay, she don't have nothing in her name,
like she eats Kelsey the fuck up. Then she also
says that everyone in Rhode Island, New England, whatever the area,
knows that her boyfriend paid for her to get her
Beauty Queen Crown and Kelsey that's the only thing that
Kelsey was like, oh, well, now you're crossing the line,
Like I won that fair and square.
Speaker 2: I can't the fact like it escalated so quickly.
Speaker 3: Let's go back. What did you think to her even
pulling up with the siren.
Speaker 1: Like I thought that that was hilarious, But also she
did not do that because she thought that they were
in a good place. You did that maliciously, And I
don't know how you thought the rest of the conversation
was gonna go because you are also saying, oh, it's
supposed to be like eight thousand square feet and then
she another job like at her house, Like it's like,
what was the point of you going there?
Speaker 2: So sorry, Beef agreed.
Speaker 3: I okay, So at first I had rewatch it because
I was I was texting my group chat. Shout out
the group chat it called buddy Isma, but shout out
the group chat. We were talking about this, and I
had to go back and rewatch because they were like, no,
fuck the siren.
Speaker 2: That was crazy.
Speaker 3: I thought she just turned it on for a second
in her driveway. No, no, no, she pulled up through
the whole neighborhood. You guys aren't on a good You
guys aren't in a good place.
Speaker 2: She could have thought the police were coming.
Speaker 3: Thank god you did that to another white woman, because
in any other situation that would be fucking petrifying, like
what is happen?
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: It was very aggressive to enter that way. She did
not think it was gonna be funny. Also, her only
boyfriend as of now, he should have done a better
job chiming in.
Speaker 2: To be like, I don't know, babe, maybe you guys aren't.
Speaker 3: In that spot, like and also, Kelsey, how did you
get a real siren?
Speaker 2: And cops set up in your car.
Speaker 3: I'm very confused you have connections to the cops.
Speaker 2: It's weird.
Speaker 1: Also, production like you genuinely did not let let Rosie
know anything that was going on, because you could tell
Rosie was literally shocked.
Speaker 2: You could tell she was. She didn't know what she
didn't think it.
Speaker 3: I don't think she thought when I rewatched it that
that was Kelsey pulling up. I genuinely think that she
thought it was the cops. And then she sees Kelsey's
car and she's like okay, and then yet escalated so quickly.
I don't think I'm gonna be honest. I don't think
either one of them like each other. And I think
that that's totally okay. I'm totally on Rosie's side in
this situation, like you tried to, I guess, extend an
olive branch and invite her over to do your hair.
We'll also let her know because you have the blueprints
on the counter and the measuring.
Speaker 2: Tape, right. But but I just knew it wasn't gonna
go well.
Speaker 3: But what shook me the most is they thought next
to that staircase and any instant what I'm not even kidding.
I know that people are gonna say that I'm dragging it,
but in an instant, one of them could have lost
their life, like the amount of the in trees, Like
when I used to work at a bar, like someone
would just push someone that they could get a concussion.
You could never come back from that if you hit
your head on a counter.
Speaker 2: When I saw them, I was shook.
Speaker 3: No one stopped them because I was scared either one
of them was about to go over that railing or
fall down the stairs because.
Speaker 2: They have that heavy case. I was shook exactly.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing that I saw that I thought of,
because Rosie is snatching the case from Kelsey, so it's
like both of them, and she's on the staircase, so
she could have tumbled and then thus the bag could
have came after or Kelsey could have fell because she
was It was insane. And then the producer finally decides
to step in once Rosie physically throws her out in
lambs the door yeah funny, and lets her come back
in after Rosie is like, get that bitch out of
my house. No, don't open the door. After you literally
pull me like yeah, you pull me back off her,
and then you let her come back in my house
after I started to get in my house.
Speaker 2: Now to mention, what if she came in swinging? Like
what what realm do you guys live in?
Speaker 3: Where this is completely off the table, like she locked
her out for a reason to put space between them
and the thing that got me my second rewatch was
I mean, if I had a tally she asked her
fifty times to leave that fucking house. If I'm at
time number fifty, media, I'm dragging you out by your
bi like Kelsey would have been dragged out by her hair.
I've had someone do that in my car before. You're
getting called the cunt. You're getting dragged out. You fucking
thought I you not going to leave my house?
Speaker 1: Yeah that I paid for that you're making fun of
And I've asked you multiple times to leave, so yeah,
and a producer letting her back in the house just
to fight again after you just had to physically pull
me off her. I'm like, okay, so this is what
happens on Baddie's. This is not what happens on Real housewives.
Once you separate this just on real housewives, it's like, Okay,
they're separated and maybe they'll like yell or whatever, but
it should have been up to Rosie to come back
in her house and open the door and talk more shit. Sure,
but you don't allow Kelsey to come in the house
and just talk about her damn beauty pageant.
Speaker 3: When that was you know what, Kelsey, I, you're the
whole state of Rhode Island knows that you fuck married men.
Speaker 2: You're a slam lam.
Speaker 3: That was in response to her after Kelsey says, by
the way, lazy I won that fan square, it reminded
me of whatever movie that it's like, I want your
captain fair and square. I lost ten pounds and dyed
my hair, like that's what it reminded me of. The
two of them at each other.
Speaker 1: They are so and it shows their age about like
what they're at about two. But it's just so fun
to watch them. And they really got down in dirty though.
Speaker 2: Like I was like voice that came out and she's
like you are not?
Speaker 3: Who was like get her on, ww get her on
a SmackDown?
Speaker 2: That was like she could she was fucking.
Speaker 1: Let these bitches scrap at this point, like clear the
way they have that bunch of dirt out where Rich
was pretending to shovel dirt. Let them fight in the paint.
Get these two in the fucking paint. And I really
think that Rosie would win physically, she could take her.
Speaker 3: One hundred because that voice that came out of her
chest like dragging her case. I agree, I should win,
and they need to implement that, Like I need to
see Emmy versus Amanda in a mud pit. I need
to see Kelsey versus Rosie. Let's get it going. Get
the white women against each other in the Bravo mudpit
and let.
Speaker 1: Us literally like bet on it on Kelsey, like I
feel like it would eat so bad. Well that's all, folks.
I'm so glad that you guys have literally been with
us for this literal hour and thirty minutes. But we
had so much to talk about today that it was necessary.
It was obviously the finale of Summer House. I will
obviously be back with Leah very soon, actually next week,
but I will have Euphoria and oh no, actually she
has Eupourian voices, so well, we'll have Euphoria, but we
have to have one other show. It might be off campus.
If you guys are watching off campus, they I want
to warn you guys if you're not used to seeing
PPU on Prime. Prime has gotten into HBO territory. HBO territory, baby,
So we'll have two scripted things to talk about on
my podcast on Positively Uncensored. You will have obviously Summer
House because it's going to be the reunion in the city,
which we are going to care more about, and probably
a little bit of Rhode Island, who knows. Thank you
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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.