WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:20.480 Yeah, what's going on? 2 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:22.600 Everybody? Welcome to a new episode of my Canicast. I'm 3 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:25.719 Canon Dave and I'm agree with. On today's episode, we 4 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:29.719 have special guests Sky COO of Cairo's Labs. Thank you 5 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:32.200 for joining us today, Sky, glad to be here. Hey, 6 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:35.320 I'm excited to learn about lab testing, test results and 7 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:37.320 everything you have going on at Chiros. It's our first 8 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:40.880 time having testing facility on the podcast, so thank you 9 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.840 for being the first one. Pretty stoked for that. 10 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.840 But why was Chiros? Let's jump into why was Kiro started? 11 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:52.960 Yeah, so our initial vision was we hear that there's 12 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:56.759 a lot of problems with testing. My partner in starting 13 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.399 this was originally going to do a grow but we 14 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.759 figured back in the twenty one twenty two era that 15 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:04.680 it might be better long term to do a lab. 16 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.120 A lot more problems in that space. There's a lot 17 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.040 of drama that's been happening with different testing. There was 18 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:12.879 a giant Veritis recall, et cetera. So you know, where's 19 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:16.400 the margin, right, like, where is the ability to create 20 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:19.359 something that's that much better than the industry standard? It 21 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.879 was a lab right? And the other thing too, is 22 00:01:21.920 --> 00:01:26.000 I remember being in college I mean everybody was smoking, 23 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.799 but at that time, it wasn't really like common wasn't legal. 24 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.560 Yeah yeah, right, So like I think back now, I 25 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:35.959 see the legal product that we're testing in some of 26 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.519 the variety and quality, and I'm like, man, one, when 27 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:41.680 my buddies were all getting stuff that wasn't even tested, 28 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:42.400 what was in it? 29 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:46.920 You know, you don't know, you don't know. 30 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:51.280 We had someone actually recently from Grace and DC and 31 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.879 they have illegal shops out there and their products filled 32 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:54.359 with like. 33 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:56.519 They were finding like amphetamine, like. 34 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.680 What like like what like so many types of things 35 00:02:01.719 --> 00:02:03.200 that you're just like not supposed to find a weed. 36 00:02:03.200 --> 00:02:05.000 And like I think about all the budd we used 37 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:07.359 to get and like, you're absolutely right, Like that is 38 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.840 the power of testing, right, Like I mean how long 39 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:11.599 ago was that too? When you start it's like when 40 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:13.800 your buddies were like when you first like saw. 41 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:18.039 Weed, Like I'll twenty six and eighteen, that's when I 42 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:19.120 was in college, right. 43 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.360 And that's I mean, it's become so long even just 44 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:23.639 in what was eight years. Yeah, it's coming. It's a 45 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.280 whole new world. I feel like it's a whole new. 46 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.360 Because even when it was first legal, there was no, 47 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:32.120 like there was no testing, right, you know. I mean 48 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:34.360 I feel like back then people were just like, this 49 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:35.680 is how much TC is on here? 50 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:37.800 You know. I don't even know of my friends knew 51 00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:40.120 if that was like something to check. They're just like, ah, weed, 52 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.960 smoke it, yeah exactly, Well, yeah got it. 53 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:44.759 It was hard enough just to get you already now, 54 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.039 you know, but now you really know what you're putting 55 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:47.479 in your system. 56 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:48.599 So it's like it's a it's a. 57 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:51.039 Blessing, right, and you think about all the folks that 58 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:54.800 need this for medicinal purposes or not just the recreational purposes, 59 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.319 and it's like, all right, well you already have issues, 60 00:02:58.240 --> 00:03:01.319 and the testing standards are kind of not great, right, 61 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:03.520 so you have all this product going out there that's 62 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:06.560 probably shouldn't be consumed, right. So that was kind of like, 63 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:10.800 all right, lab that my partner being a medical doctor 64 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:12.919 and me having a lot of the experience in other areas, 65 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:14.840 it was a good fit to create something like this 66 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:17.840 start making an actual impact. 67 00:03:18.400 --> 00:03:20.319 And I think I might have over Did you say 68 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:21.479 what school you were at? 69 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:22.400 Michigan State? 70 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.680 Yeah, we got Stay that's Small Green. 71 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.039 That's my sister's alumni school too. 72 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:30.360 Oh. Yeah, Michigan State. 73 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:34.199 Yeah, yeah, no, okay, so cool. No, I just I 74 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:35.680 just had to ask because you know, it's a big 75 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:36.280 thing in these days. 76 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:37.439 And where's the lab located? 77 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:41.400 Warren, oh Ship Home. That's where we grew up. That's 78 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:42.080 that's awesome. 79 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:43.080 That is right where we. 80 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:44.879 Literally yeah, I mean that's where I still go visit 81 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:45.400 my mom. 82 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.879 North of eight Mile, which is always fun to tell people. 83 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:53.120 There you go, That's it's always a good area. 84 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:59.759 So so I want to jump into the meeting behind Cairo. 85 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:00.800 Where did it come from? 86 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.240 That's I was gonna, okay, yeah, I just want to 87 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.319 make sure because we've definitely ruined some names before. 88 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:09.000 What was the one that there. 89 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.879 Was this brand called Hunah that we were calling it 90 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.159 Hannah or something, and like we had no idea. 91 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:15.360 You just don't know how to go, like an ig 92 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:16.759 for finances ago who whuna? 93 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:22.399 So yeah, under we love to find the meeting behind 94 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:23.360 every brand, you know. 95 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.720 So yeah, it's a Greek origin, so it's about being 96 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:32.360 at the perfect timing or the perfect opportunity. I could 97 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.319 also be the god of opportunity in that sense, so 98 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:38.480 a little bit different. Now, I don't think that of 99 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:40.639 all the Greek words. People think of Kiros as one 100 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.639 of them. But you know, for where we opened and 101 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:45.079 the way that we built the lab, it really was 102 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:47.759 like a situation of perfect timing for what we did. 103 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.759 Why do you say that, because the market kind of shifted, right, 104 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.319 So you had the initial wave of labs that were 105 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.360 just hey, let's you know, sixteen hundred square foot closet 106 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:00.319 with some used machines and you're printing money because there's 107 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.360 so much demand for testing that you didn't really you 108 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:04.800 could get away with whatever you wanted to. 109 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:08.000 I mean, any market new is like that, you know 110 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:09.920 what I mean. Cannabis was like that, Like, you know, 111 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:11.920 it's not all well, plus. 112 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:13.839 Are so many brands out there is how many licensed 113 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:15.360 testing facilities that have you have? 114 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.439 When you changed, it was forced so you had to 115 00:05:18.439 --> 00:05:20.360 get self tested. Everyone was like, well, shit, where do 116 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:21.680 I go? You just Google testing? 117 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:23.759 Like you know what I mean? It was word of mouth, 118 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:24.399 you know, there. 119 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:27.639 Was no you know, there was no relationship relationships to 120 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:27.959 get those. 121 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:29.399 So yeah, I guess you did come in at the 122 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:29.920 right timing. 123 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.560 We knew that by the time we'd actually start taking samples, 124 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.639 you needed to be at a different professional level of quality, right, 125 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:37.279 so you wouldn't be able to get away with one 126 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:40.480 set of instrumentation. Down time would not be acceptable anymore. 127 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.759 There'd be more competition in the market, So build better, bigger, 128 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.120 resilient was kind of the way that we wanted to 129 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:48.720 approach it. And not that all labs that started originally 130 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.959 were not like that. There were some very good, notable labs, right, 131 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.800 and we just kind of looked at that spectrum of 132 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:56.759 what was available and what all. Right, we need to 133 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.040 be on the high end of things because we want 134 00:05:59.079 --> 00:06:00.439 to be here for the long term. That's the way 135 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:00.680 to go. 136 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:01.680 Yeah, No, I. 137 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.319 Respect that there's a lot that we hear cutting corners 138 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:07.040 with the scandals. 139 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:10.920 I can't look anywhere that there's an opportunity to make money. 140 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:14.560 There's folks that will choose to operate their business in 141 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.480 a way that's profitable the wrong way and it profitable 142 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:17.920 the right way. 143 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:19.759 Yeah, shady, you know, it's just like, I don't know, 144 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.199 there's always like, whenever something starts going, people are like, oh, 145 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:23.319 how can we take advantage of. 146 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:27.639 The system Exactly? Yep, come on, it's not ruining for 147 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:28.160 everyone else. 148 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.120 But I understand always a few bad apples, No, but 149 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:31.759 see that's. 150 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:33.600 That's still great. I mean just I mean. 151 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:37.360 It's great to see that the cop that type of 152 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:39.560 stuff is kind of gone away, but also kind of 153 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.480 not And we'll get in that a little bit later. 154 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.759 But it's just like there needs to be standardizing, you know, 155 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:46.680 so that but I. 156 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:49.560 Agree, I want to because we've we never were not 157 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.600 familiar with the breakdown of testing, So a breakdown of 158 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.639 testing cannabis, flower and then maybe concentrates like edibles like 159 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.480 we have. We're not really familiar with it at all. Mean, 160 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.480 we've heard about it, but give us some insight. 161 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:02.560 Filet's that's a good. 162 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.120 One because honestly, like especially like with different types of products, 163 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:09.560 I'm very curious if like testing is different for different 164 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:14.079 types of products class flower versus I mean, nowadays there's drakes, 165 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:20.680 there's there's everything, you know, so sprays. 166 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:20.480 Oils, tinctures, lotions. 167 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.560 Yeah, yes, and so much more like you know what 168 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:23.879 I mean. 169 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:29.120 So, yeah, there's a certain set of products that are 170 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.319 absolutely mandated to be tested. Right, It's going to be 171 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:33.879 if you've got a THHC content, it's cannabis whatever. We 172 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.199 all know that. Yeah, So with flour, you're gonna have 173 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.040 to test for microbials. Right, so your total used in mold, 174 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.639 your aspergillus which everyone loves and hates, and total coliforms, 175 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:48.480 which is like, you know some of this bacterial related. 176 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:50.399 Why do you say love and hate though? 177 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:51.800 That's why for aspergillus? 178 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:54.399 Yeah, so I feel like the hate makes sense, But 179 00:07:54.600 --> 00:07:55.519 why do people love it? 180 00:07:57.120 --> 00:07:59.800 I don't know if there's as much. It's an ironic 181 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:02.360 thing I think where it's like, oh, you know aspergelists fail, 182 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:06.319 but the rules say if there's a single and if 183 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.560 there's a single spore of aspergillis and like a fifty 184 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.759 pound batch, which it fail, how do you find that? 185 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.240 Right? Yeah? Yeah, like one little. 186 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.839 And that's literally you can't find it without the entire 187 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:21.560 You've got nothing left, right like? So, or if you have, 188 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:24.360 you know, a bunch of pre rules and one of 189 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.800 them has above a failing or one of them has 190 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.000 a spore and what the others don't like? Which one 191 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:31.399 did we happen to use for the aspergillis test? So 192 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:33.120 it's it's a love and hate thing. 193 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:35.679 Yeah, it's like, is that's something you'd have to identify exactly? 194 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.000 It sounds like it's not just something that's throughout right 195 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:40.559 now I see, I see, like. 196 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:43.360 We're not too opposed to it, because you know, I 197 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.519 love Yeah, I'm always curious. We we have, I guess, 198 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:50.399 some positive view on the aspergelist testing because we have 199 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.039 a lot of unique things we do in the lab 200 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.759 that helps us compete against other labs where it's like 201 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.759 you're having Aspergillus fails somewhere else, you're frustrated. You don't 202 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:00.480 know if it's you or it's the lab. We have 203 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.159 a lot of different ways to actually like test and 204 00:09:03.240 --> 00:09:05.960 verify like do you do you have should you be 205 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.120 failing for this? And so we're able to pull this. 206 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:11.240 Could also be from labs that's interesting, from like past. 207 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:12.960 I don't know, it could be from any source. I 208 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.799 see what you're saying. It's it's speculative, right, right, I see. 209 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:16.279 I see. 210 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.879 Okay, that's cool. That's cool to break down. So there's 211 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:21.240 that test, you do microbials, and then like, so what 212 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.120 else is there? Because I mean, obviously I want to 213 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:28.360 talk about terpenes, yes, but give there's canbinoids, well anything else. 214 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.519 So after microbials, you've got heavy metals, right, So that's 215 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.720 nickels led those kinds of contaminantcy stuff, right, for flower, 216 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:40.320 You're then going to have potency pesticides. Uh, and that 217 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.639 kind of rounds out most of the tests. You do 218 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:46.759 not have to test solvents, residual solvents and flower. I 219 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:52.559 believe terpens is not required. We we know, but there 220 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.279 was a there was a rule proposed where terpins can required. 221 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:59.879 Well, and honestly, we honestly like everything that's a fl 222 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:02.639 X becomes a standard because it's like, you know, you 223 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:04.559 got to take it to that next level. I TC 224 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.600 is not necessarily it's dying out. GC is very important. 225 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:10.720 Everyone still sells, but I think there's another demographic of 226 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.159 people who want to know that flavors the terps, right, 227 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.799 And I did see that on your website. You know 228 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:19.399 that it's like free turp testing. Yeah, And because we've 229 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:22.559 heard that was the excuse of many companies of that, like, oh, 230 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:23.559 it costs extra. 231 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:24.799 Money, we can't afford it, we can't do it. 232 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:26.360 I'm like, okay, I mean I get it, you know, 233 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:29.360 overhead overhead, but like that's a really cool thing. 234 00:10:29.440 --> 00:10:31.360 I don't know if every lab does that. 235 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.519 No, not at all. So when one of the things 236 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:36.399 that when we were about to open, we looked at 237 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:40.120 what's the landscape and what are people complaining about? Everything's 238 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.120 THHD driven Okay, what else could drive it? 239 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:43.679 Terms? 240 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:44.320 Fact? 241 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:45.559 Why don't terms? 242 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:46.320 Right? 243 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:48.600 Oh, it's gate kept by like twenty five dollars extra 244 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.720 on the test. Okay, we'll just make it free from 245 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:51.519 the day we start. 246 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:55.000 Twenty five dollars, that's all they were saying to me. Well, 247 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.120 you know when it's like money's money, But I get it. 248 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:00.639 If your test is like three fifty d four hundred 249 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:02.600 dollars and it's an extra twenty five bucks for something 250 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:04.840 you don't need and you just did ten tests that week, 251 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.480 that's two hundred and fifty bucks, right, So then. 252 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.559 That makes sense. No, I mean good to break it 253 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:10.080 down for it. 254 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:12.240 But it was fun. We started making it free from 255 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.879 day one, and people got pissed. Our competition, some of 256 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:16.440 them got pissed, and then they had to do it too, 257 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:19.600 so we achieved what we wanted. It's starting to you know, 258 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:20.519 it's good. 259 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:23.279 People should free since day one. 260 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:25.279 Yeah, that's one of the biggest things that we uh 261 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:27.360 check out late when brands don't have some of the 262 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:29.320 terpenes on the package. You right, come on, yeah, just 263 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.240 get the terpenes there I mean, it's good to have it, 264 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:33.559 but we'll be diving more than the turpens. I want 265 00:11:33.559 --> 00:11:37.279 to go back to uh testing for concentrates. So is 266 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.279 there different testings? How you do counstraightts? And it was 267 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:41.879 like a process to test the country, So like do 268 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:42.759 you do you? 269 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:44.399 How do you? How do you? How do you get 270 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:46.759 the results out of that chatter or rosin? 271 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:50.960 Yeah, so everything is kind of all the same between 272 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:53.679 the matrices in terms of like matrices with the word 273 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:55.600 that we use to all describe like the edibles, the 274 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:58.759 concentrated distill it and a flower. Right, so we're gonna 275 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:00.960 go to the facility sampled that stuff. There's a different 276 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.120 way we sample those things. If it's a jar of 277 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:05.879 distalatet oil, we're using like a syringe is a good 278 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.159 way to pull it. If it's like hash rosen or 279 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:10.919 some of the other stuff, Like we're just trying to 280 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.000 get little pieces of the whole batch. 281 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.759 Right, like from different parts and you can put together 282 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.720 for the test. Oh, that's awesome, Which that's really that 283 00:12:18.799 --> 00:12:21.320 that's how I mean that seems more true. Yeah, exact, 284 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:22.919 I'm not sure that's how everyone does it. They might 285 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:25.720 that's not how everyone they might take their top nugs 286 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.480 and be like, haha, exactly, see. 287 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.559 Oh shit, I never even thought about that. 288 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:33.000 So you know, if you've had a giant stack of 289 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:34.720 pre rolls sitting for a little bit and you only 290 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.159 take the top ones that are dry, you probably won't pass. 291 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:40.279 You probably won't fail for mold versus if you take 292 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.039 some of the ones lower down that have been sitting 293 00:12:42.120 --> 00:12:43.200 and festering a little bit. 294 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:44.879 It seems like there's some loopholes. 295 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.600 But I mean that's but that's just like knowing the 296 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:50.080 science behind it. Also, you know, I don't think everyone 297 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.679 knows that game. You know, there's a there's a huge 298 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.320 science aspect behind I mean obviously there's biology, you know 299 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:58.840 in botany, and but like there is chemistry now, and 300 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:02.200 you're going to the labs as stuff, especially with concentrates 301 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:04.000 liarly chemists out here, you know, when you go to 302 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:07.360 these solved labs especially yeah, these exploding rooms or whatever. 303 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:11.360 So yeah, I'll stick to the press. That's much safer 304 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:11.720 at home. 305 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:13.519 Once you grab all this stuff and it gets to 306 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.200 the lab, we're weighing and splitting it all out and 307 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.639 to different pieces. So we have got a piece that's 308 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:21.799 going to go towards each prep process. We have to 309 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.720 the different tests, but they all end up turning into 310 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.559 basically liquid in a vial, and at that point they're 311 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:28.279 all kind of the same. 312 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:31.159 Right, Oh, so when you're testing constraints, they all basically 313 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.200 get to a little bit more of like a more 314 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:33.960 liquid states. 315 00:13:34.039 --> 00:13:37.480 Yeah, it's like we're using some acids or solvents or 316 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:39.559 chemicals to just break it down and try to get 317 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:40.600 what we want out of it. 318 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:40.879 Right. 319 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:45.279 So, like if we're getting to metals prep, trying to 320 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:47.200 get a little vial that we can run on the 321 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.519 instrument that will detect metals. I don't care if there's 322 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:51.759 other stuff in it. I'm just getting it down so 323 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:53.799 that I can detect the metals in it, right. 324 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:55.240 Yeah, right, so you know what you're putting into it 325 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.039 so you can exploite it. 326 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:58.240 Mean that means your flour and edical's turn into a 327 00:13:58.240 --> 00:13:58.879 liquid as well. 328 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.679 Because yes, exactly, So we break it down essentially. Think 329 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.519 of it like a digestion process that just turns it 330 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:06.519 into a liquid. We can eat all kinds of different food, 331 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:07.879 but like it all ends up. 332 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.679 Being that's really cool, ir no idea. So there are 333 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:12.559 similarities in the testing. It's the style of how you gather. 334 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.639 It starts as different stuff and by the time before 335 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:17.200 it goes to the instrument, they all look the same. 336 00:14:17.799 --> 00:14:19.399 They're all just little vials. 337 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:21.360 Idea but yeah, yep, I had no idea. I thought 338 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.039 you were. It was a different test for everything. But 339 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:24.120 that makes any chemistry. 340 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:28.080 I love it. So science, yeah break bad. 341 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:33.480 You know, I'm saying with concentrates, if it was you know, 342 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:36.879 solvent based or solvent lists, right, So if it was 343 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.679 made with solvents, that there's no microbial tests required because 344 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:43.240 the solvent process kills all the recrobials. Okay, but in 345 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:47.600 those concentrates, we now test for residual solvents because you 346 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:53.279 want to make sure that that's like butane and confirming exactly. 347 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:54.840 Yeah, that's smart, But. 348 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.120 You don't need to do that with flower, right, so 349 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.720 there's no there's no butane hopefully in your flower. 350 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:05.559 Oh. 351 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.320 Back in the day, I'm like maybe, like I don't know. 352 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:13.120 Yeah, so, but you know, for solvent lists, then we 353 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:15.679 have to test for micro oh. Right. And then with 354 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.799 vapes there's the additional test of vitamin E and then 355 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:20.960 as of October, first the mct. 356 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.080 Uh oils YEA yeah, yeah, that's good. 357 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:24.480 That's good. 358 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.840 So there's a couple of small variants and differences between 359 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:31.559 the matrices, but overall, like everything is getting tested for pesticides, right, 360 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:32.919 so there's a couple of common. 361 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:36.320 Things and metals and stuff like that. Exactly did was 362 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:39.240 there a lot MCT oil on the market? Was that pretty. 363 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:40.600 Common or did you? I mean, I don't know if 364 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:42.399 you like saw it. I mean around. 365 00:15:42.200 --> 00:15:45.679 It's a little weird because like a lot of of 366 00:15:45.679 --> 00:15:48.399 our customers have said that they've been using like this 367 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:52.440 turp sauce forever, while the turps are held in MCT oil, right, 368 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:57.519 So like right, you know, and now there's you know, 369 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.679 some of the better Sorry, some of the bigger manufacturers 370 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.519 are starting to put certificates of analysis on their website 371 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:06.639 for their turpeen mixes. Oh we don't have MCT in it, right, 372 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:09.840 But it's kind of the problem with testing is like, 373 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.440 well they banned this thing, Well they're just going to 374 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.200 do this instead, right, And it's like this never ended game. 375 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:15.039 It's Yeah, it's kind of. 376 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.799 Like the soda thing where it's like pop or whatever. 377 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:18.679 We're in the Midwest where it's like, oh, sugar is 378 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:20.360 bad for you. But then they full of aspertain all 379 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:22.639 these other sugars like that ain't good for you either, Right, 380 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.320 It's kind of like what is that like rob Sally 381 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.159 or to pay Paul or I can't. 382 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:31.559 Rob Peter to pay Paul boom Sky. 383 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:32.159 That was real good. 384 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:32.840 That was real good. 385 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:37.759 But I tried my artist and that's what matters in life. 386 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.440 Right, that's what we got skys here? Good? 387 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:46.440 Thanks mom? No, but no, that's really cool. 388 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:48.039 I want to talk. 389 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.480 We're talking about the testing and you're what what's your 390 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.399 team like that does the test results in like their 391 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:54.960 background over at the facility? 392 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:55.679 Yeah. 393 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.960 Yeah, So anytime you're going to build a business, you've 394 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:03.440 got to figure out what your real points of difference 395 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:05.680 are going to be, right, So, like, is it going 396 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:07.319 to be your equipment, Is it going to be facility? 397 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:09.920 Is it going to be people? And for something is 398 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:14.200 labor intensive as a laboratory, your people are absolutely paramount. 399 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.559 Small mistakes that they make. Now you have turntime delays, 400 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:20.559 you've got issues are false positives or false negatives. So 401 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:24.880