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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think

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<v Speaker 2>we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 4>The kids are playing or trail off.

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<v Speaker 3>The punctures are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner.

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<v Speaker 1>Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 4>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me? Now? Here's nick coffee?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Happy hump Day, everybody. Welcome in to another

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<v Speaker 4>edition here of Coffee and Company. Fuel Beth Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 4>Sports Talk seven ninety On a beautiful, beautiful Wednesday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not real warm, and when it gets the wind

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<v Speaker 4>gets to a whippon, it can be a little chilly,

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<v Speaker 4>but hey, it is beautiful outside and I've been wanting

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<v Speaker 4>some sunshine and we have it today and that has

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<v Speaker 4>me very excited. I'm excited to be here. I'm always

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<v Speaker 4>excited to be here. I think like ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the time when I tell you that, I really

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<v Speaker 4>mean it. But I'm telling you I really mean it

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<v Speaker 4>today because as I was on the drive in here, Austin.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about how fortunate we are that this

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<v Speaker 4>is what we get to do, like for a job,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think we try to keep that in mind

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<v Speaker 4>at all times because you never know when it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to come to an end. One day, this won't be

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<v Speaker 4>what we do and it'll be sad. But I've been

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<v Speaker 4>doing some adult stuff today, right. We talked about taxis yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, overall, I have a great woman who is

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<v Speaker 4>my wife, and she kind of takes care of a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the adult stuff and I'm very fortunate for that.

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<v Speaker 4>We've talked about it many times really over the years.

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<v Speaker 4>But today, you know, it was one of those days

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<v Speaker 4>where I couldn't wait to just get here and kind

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<v Speaker 4>of you know, block out some adult stuff. And like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to make this about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my my personal life by any means, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you experience things sometimes maybe early in your life as

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<v Speaker 4>an adult or maybe a little bit later. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of us, myself included, like I just get

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<v Speaker 4>caught up in my own bubble, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Like sure, I try to, especially with this, with with

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<v Speaker 4>this gig what we do, I try to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>keep an ear to the ground as far as what's

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<v Speaker 4>being discussed, what's interesting, what is out there that is topical,

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<v Speaker 4>And then really the name of the game is relatability,

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<v Speaker 4>talking about things that people have an opinion on that

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<v Speaker 4>they can relate to. I mean, that's that's that's a

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<v Speaker 4>big key in what we do. But for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've I've been very lucky up until recently to never

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<v Speaker 4>really have to worry about like issues with with like

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<v Speaker 4>not not my health, but just like with with medical

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<v Speaker 4>care sure, and and this is not new. This is

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<v Speaker 4>I guess been a thing for a long time, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'd heard about it, but I guess, you know, one

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<v Speaker 4>ear out the other, it just wasn't something I ever

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<v Speaker 4>spent much time thinking about until you know, it started

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<v Speaker 4>affecting me. And there's really nothing that can be done

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<v Speaker 4>about it, at least that I don't know if, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's nobody that you know, I'm not starting the show

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<v Speaker 4>by going on a bitching session about you know, about

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<v Speaker 4>any specific entity or any specific person. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter, I talked about her many times over the

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<v Speaker 4>over the years, and I know Austin, you know her,

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter Maya. She she's special needs, and she her

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<v Speaker 4>diagnosis is she's autistic, and she also has an intellectual disability,

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<v Speaker 4>and and you know, all in all, she's great. We

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<v Speaker 4>have a great life. I mean, it's it's awesome. So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't bring that up to say, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to complain, but you know, with that, there comes, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there comes just challenges hardships that maybe you know you

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't experience if if if you're not someone that is

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<v Speaker 4>that is disabled in special needs. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>got a pretty good head on my shoulders about all that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's not something that I just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean sometimes it's tough, but overall, like I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>change a thing to be honest with you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>so with all that said, I'm we're just now as

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<v Speaker 4>a family kind of dealing with like things that I

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<v Speaker 4>just still can't believe are are a thing gives me

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<v Speaker 4>like a pit in my stomach, like you know she's

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<v Speaker 4>got And when you have a when you have a

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<v Speaker 4>child who is you know, in her situation, it's really

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<v Speaker 4>it's a never ending type of thing. As far as evaluations,

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<v Speaker 4>just anything we can learn and get looked at to

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<v Speaker 4>where we can provide a better life for her. To

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<v Speaker 4>where you know, things aren't as challenging at times. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's endless. It's a it's a journey, it's a ride,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, it's just what we do. But she

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<v Speaker 4>she's having she's having some issues where she she just

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<v Speaker 4>gets really really exhausted and she you know, she'll it's

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<v Speaker 4>not like she passes out, but like she just completely

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<v Speaker 4>just gets absolutely winded and exhausted, and just like she

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<v Speaker 4>can't keep her eyes open when she's in school. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>she'll just be sitting up and fall asleep. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>not because she's not getting any rest, you know. So

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<v Speaker 4>we're trying to figure out what's causing that. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>been like such a pain in the ass because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they told us to get lab work done. Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 4>do that. Well, then insurance doesn't cover it. So then

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a it's just a back and forth with

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<v Speaker 4>her primary doctor and the insurance company about like we

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't have to pay fifteen hundred dollars out of pocket.

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<v Speaker 4>We have health insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>What is this right?

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<v Speaker 4>And just it just makes me sick to my stomach

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<v Speaker 4>to know that the insurance companies there are people there

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<v Speaker 4>whose job is to quite literally strategically find and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure they've got like a maybe not a script, but

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, there's a strategy to it to where

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to find whatever they can to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>they don't have to pay for anything. And I'm just thinking, like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we pay for health insurance, we're getting lab work done,

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<v Speaker 4>why wouldn't that cover it? And then also she gets

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<v Speaker 4>speech therapy occupational therapy, and occupational therapy is things like

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<v Speaker 4>helping her be able to get herself dress and and

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<v Speaker 4>things like that. And she's she's been dealing with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's been she's had those therapy sessions for

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time and they they're valuable. And even

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<v Speaker 4>you know, even if it was something that we you know,

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<v Speaker 4>can't tell visit by visit a real big growth, why

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<v Speaker 4>would we not do it. It's just a chance for

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<v Speaker 4>her to to you know, to to to develop in

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<v Speaker 4>areas where she's behind. But like now all of a

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<v Speaker 4>sudden that's not covered like somebody whose special needs like insurance,

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<v Speaker 4>Like now we're not going to pay for her speech

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<v Speaker 4>therapy because you know, we we don't see it as

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<v Speaker 4>a necessary kind of thing. And it's just back and

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<v Speaker 4>forth with our doctor, the specialist, the therapists, i should say,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the insurance company. And it's just like it

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<v Speaker 4>it just, I don't know, it makes me, makes me

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<v Speaker 4>angry and sad sometimes just to know that like society

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<v Speaker 4>like this is the thing, and you know, here I am.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's dealing with it. It's it's affecting me

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<v Speaker 4>and my family for the first time. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>there's people listening that have dealt with it for a

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<v Speaker 4>long time and it's been a lot worse. So trust me,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, all in all, there are many others that

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<v Speaker 4>that have much more struggles than we do. But it's just,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's just it's drives me insane, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't you know understand. I've been thinking about it a

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<v Speaker 4>lot today because we're we're she had some testing done

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<v Speaker 4>last week and we're waiting to get those results and

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<v Speaker 4>then this, you know today at school. She she's having

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<v Speaker 4>some issues with the same things. She just really really exhausted.

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<v Speaker 4>And we think, like we have an idea as far

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<v Speaker 4>as what it specifically is, and and if in fact

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<v Speaker 4>we do determine that that that's what it is, then

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<v Speaker 4>she'll be on medication, OK, and it'll and it'll help,

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<v Speaker 4>but like in order to see the specialist that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that can tell us if in fact, what her primary

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<v Speaker 4>doctor believes could be the issue, and what we believe

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<v Speaker 4>as far as us knowing her behaviors and all that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. I mean, it's it's an end in endocrinologist.

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<v Speaker 4>Like we can't get an appointment until July, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just like, I mean, we're trying our best, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not one person, it's really not one entity. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just I guess the system, you know, just just just

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<v Speaker 4>making it as difficult as possible. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure we'll deal with much worse in life, not even

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<v Speaker 4>related to just my children, but like, you know, it,

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<v Speaker 4>in the end of the world, it could be a

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<v Speaker 4>lot worse. Overall, we're very fortunate considering, you know, everything,

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<v Speaker 4>But today's one of those days where I'm just like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm lucky in a lot of ways, but to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to just you know, this absolutely is fun. I

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<v Speaker 4>love it. Don't know what I would do without it,

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<v Speaker 4>meeting this show and just what this is however, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's also like an escape from you know, real

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<v Speaker 4>real life stuff, and wouldn't you agree, Like at times,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there are there there are some things as

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<v Speaker 4>far as like performance related stress that that adds stress

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<v Speaker 4>to this, but overall, like there are people who go

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<v Speaker 4>to work every day and like it's a stressful job,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's it's just really taxing when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>stress and anxiety, and that would be that would be

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<v Speaker 4>you know, again, it's life for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 4>So as I as I have you know, been looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward all day to getting here at three o'clock and

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<v Speaker 4>getting this party started. Work is my escape. And I

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<v Speaker 4>just I know that there aren't many people that are

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<v Speaker 4>able to to to say that some people probably have

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<v Speaker 4>stress about real life stuff that isn't work related and

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<v Speaker 4>then they go to work and they have a new

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<v Speaker 4>layer of different types of stress. So anyways, well we'll

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<v Speaker 4>move on. I mean, I could sit here and yap

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<v Speaker 4>about this stuff all day, but I know it's not

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<v Speaker 4>what we're supposed to do here.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know of a of an in dung An Indo chronologist

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<v Speaker 4>that might have an availability before July, no joke, let

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<v Speaker 4>me know, because you know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't even know what Indo is not well, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know one endo, but they probably doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel like I'm not I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying it correctly, but clearly it sounds about right.

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<v Speaker 4>And there there's there's a there's there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of confidence in the way I'm saying it right. So

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<v Speaker 4>indocrinologist is is I believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>The study of is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like so they diagnose and treat conditions that involve like hormones,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean, so what we think has happened here

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<v Speaker 4>so anyways, long story, short, let's let's let's let me

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<v Speaker 4>escape what's stressing me out in my real life. Let's here,

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<v Speaker 4>let's let's get into the nonsense and have some fun today.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look where you're at. Four Street Live was

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<v Speaker 2>built for people to get away from their daily stresses.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're coming here to party, ride the mechanical bull,

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<v Speaker 2>get on here and talk about sports takes here in

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<v Speaker 2>You need to go out there to the coffee machine,

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<v Speaker 2>act like you're doing something and run into like it's

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<v Speaker 4>Miner's picture would show up. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes when I know, like, because I've always been a

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<v Speaker 2>And look at us now, brother, look at us now.

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<v Speaker 2>I get to talk to you. I get to see

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<v Speaker 2>and then like I'll just be sitting here getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the show, and Terry friggin Miners will walk right

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<v Speaker 2>behind me and go, yo, what's up Austin, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, imagine if Venetti was in here late in

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<v Speaker 2>Would They would need a firing squad to hold us down? No,

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<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned for it.

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<v Speaker 4>the very.

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<v Speaker 2>Top of it? I think so. I think I've snucking

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<v Speaker 4>So if you ever think of it, drive up to

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<v Speaker 4>whatever you want to do. There's actually a sneaky, phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>Any does it get to the point where there's no

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>No, there's yeah, there's some I mean, it's you got

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it's called, but it's right next

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<v Speaker 4>don't I don't ever really think I've seen it. But

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<v Speaker 4>if you get to the top of our garage and

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<v Speaker 4>vibes here on a Wednesday, and we got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>we'll get into and let you guys be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of the show. If you want to text in, you

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<v Speaker 4>can Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line five O

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<v Speaker 4>a call. And uh, there's not really one specific thing

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<v Speaker 4>that's gonna like drive the show today. We did talk

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<v Speaker 4>a lot yesterday about case and Pryor his decision and

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<v Speaker 4>there's no update. But a couple of people have pointed

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<v Speaker 4>this out throughout the week on the text line is like,

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<v Speaker 4>do we need a type of announcement for Case and

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<v Speaker 4>Pryor whenever we didn't get one and aren't expecting anything

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<v Speaker 4>from a James Scott or a Cannai Ruse And I've

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<v Speaker 4>got I've got, you know, Case, I can do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>the hell he wants. I hope he comes back, and

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<v Speaker 4>regardless if he gives us a big Instagram graphic with

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<v Speaker 4>a quote or he doesn't, if he's back, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be happy. But I've got some thoughts on that. Also

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<v Speaker 4>when you I'm trying to think of an example, and

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<v Speaker 4>I should have. I should have given this a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more thought throughout the day, because I'm sure there

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<v Speaker 4>are other there are other sayings like this that that

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<v Speaker 4>you know it's no and I'll just get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky fans with the news yesterday that they lost a

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<v Speaker 4>big time transfer who they were all in on Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Pope took him to Keetland, Baby, I mean he was

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<v Speaker 4>out there in the winter Circle. Pope had on the

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<v Speaker 4>UK letterman jacket, looking like the man and Wilkerson decides

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<v Speaker 4>to go to Indiana. And I think it's been really

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<v Speaker 4>evident in the last twenty four hours that Kentucky fans

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<v Speaker 4>they do not take rejection well. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>reasons for that, and we'll get into it today. However,

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<v Speaker 4>like who does take rejection well? Like, clearly you can

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<v Speaker 4>take it better than others, Like if you get you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you get rejected and you act like a lunatic

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, unload on somebody, you know that that's

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<v Speaker 4>probably about the worst way you could handle it. So

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<v Speaker 4>I guess handling it is. Handling it well would just

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<v Speaker 4>be like not letting, you know, it impact you to

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<v Speaker 4>where you you know, you become out of character or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that. So again, it's kind of like who

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<v Speaker 4>is great, Like, oh, I'm great at taking rejection one

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<v Speaker 4>That would be a sad thing to say, because that

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<v Speaker 4>means you get rejected a lot. So anyways, I just

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<v Speaker 4>I've got some lingering thoughts on just sort of this,

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<v Speaker 4>like this piece of news yesterday. There's layers to it

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<v Speaker 4>as to why I think Kentucky fans have reacted the

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<v Speaker 4>way that they reacted. I don't mean, I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they're out here acting like complete lunatics. But

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<v Speaker 4>there's a sense of entitlement that I still think is

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<v Speaker 4>all due to the man who coached that program and

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of success early on and well overall

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<v Speaker 4>was great. I mean, Cayle Perry, say what you want.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean one title, yeah, and that's going to clearly

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<v Speaker 4>be something people bring up. But I mean, he had

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<v Speaker 4>a phenomenal run in Lexington. There's no way around it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was better in the beginning than it was towards

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<v Speaker 4>the end. We all know that. But like what he

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<v Speaker 4>did better than anything, The biggest strength among many that

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<v Speaker 4>he had was getting players, really getting anybody he wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, you know, again, we'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got some thoughts as far as just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you should just expect to start losing players all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>but the days of just getting players because you're Kentucky

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<v Speaker 4>or because you know the guy coaching you gets really

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<v Speaker 4>whoever he wants one, that guy's not there anymore. And

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<v Speaker 4>it's really an entirely different world. And I mean, people

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<v Speaker 4>who wanted to make this somewhat of a segment I'm

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<v Speaker 4>kind of rolling through right now, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to do that, so I'll continue to get the table

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<v Speaker 4>set for the rest of the show, but we will

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<v Speaker 4>talk a little bit more about that. But also the

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<v Speaker 4>Nico Lama la Vela probably not saying it right. I've

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<v Speaker 4>said it five different ways, I think this week. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know. I mean Nico Tennessee, Nico, we'll call him that.

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<v Speaker 4>And you've got you got me in my own head here, Austin,

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't know is it an L or an?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's is it is that what Ilama leve

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<v Speaker 2>because I I actually wanted to defer at first to

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<v Speaker 2>the the Molly Quorum reference and how she said said it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking, actually, as I type it in right now,

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<v Speaker 2>according to our windows, what windows are we even on

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<v Speaker 2>whatever windows? Whatever I type in a upper case I,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't have the traditional like with the with

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<v Speaker 2>the line at the top and the line at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>it still looks like you wouldn't mistake it for like

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<v Speaker 2>an L. So I'm I'm thinking that it's an eye

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<v Speaker 2>in there. So I'm thinking it's is it? I A

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<v Speaker 2>lama vea?

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<v Speaker 4>Is how it is?

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<v Speaker 2>I found a video. Okay, this video is from a decided.

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<v Speaker 4>This is from a Knoxville news station who enter and

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<v Speaker 4>this this makes me not feel quite like a dumb ass,

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<v Speaker 4>because there's an entire news segment from this new station

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<v Speaker 4>w A T E six that interviewed fans outside of

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<v Speaker 4>Niland Stadium about six to seven different fans, asking them

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<v Speaker 4>to pronounce it, and then they have him pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 4>And here is is Nico telling us how to say

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<v Speaker 4>his last name. Yeah, that's not easy to say, Yamalava.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you were right though. Honestly, dude, I think Austin,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you you there's Yama liava, Yama Leyava. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>yama layava.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so hard to say while looking at it.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, Nico lama lavea, is that right? Yamaaa yama layava,

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<v Speaker 2>Yama layava yamaa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's right, yes, one of those yes. So anyways, uh, Tennesse,

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<v Speaker 4>he has zero market and this is ap No matter

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<v Speaker 4>what happens with this guy, it's already played out to

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<v Speaker 4>be I think an example that will be referenced for

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<v Speaker 4>years to come in this new world of college athletics

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<v Speaker 4>where players get paid and they can negotiate deals, because

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<v Speaker 4>this guy got greedy and he completely changed his career

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<v Speaker 4>and he could end up being great elsewhere and then

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<v Speaker 4>maybe get to the end. Like it's not like he's

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<v Speaker 4>destined to be a failure, but it doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to end up with a big time program.

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<v Speaker 4>And nobody's clearly just this being the first time we've

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<v Speaker 4>ever had a holdout for a college athlete. That alone

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<v Speaker 4>is the story. But what isn't getting mentioned a whole

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<v Speaker 4>lot is that he's not that good. I mean, he's young,

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<v Speaker 4>and he can get better. You can certainly find quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 4>that are a lot worse than him, But this isn't somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he was borderline top half in the SEC

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<v Speaker 4>last year. And I know the SEC is an elite

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<v Speaker 4>league in football, we all know that, but it's actually

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<v Speaker 4>not great at quarterbacks, like they've honestly historically, despite being

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<v Speaker 4>so great, they've done it without having many, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>legendary slash elite type quarterbacks. So anyway, I continue to

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<v Speaker 4>be fascinated by that entire thing. Also, how about Dwan

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<v Speaker 4>Wheat Louisville legend, my hero getting the job at Simmons College.

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<v Speaker 4>So happy for Dewan. And I haven't told my wife yet, Austin,

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<v Speaker 4>but like all the money that we've saved for the

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<v Speaker 4>Simmons and IL fund. Like I'm gonna have to because

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<v Speaker 4>I can't not support. Like that's actually smart, smart thing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with your finances. Yeah, and what's wild is

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<v Speaker 4>that what it's wild about? And I'm joking when I

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<v Speaker 4>say this, but Dwan Wheat is like he's a legend

418
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<v Speaker 4>and I don't need to tell anybody that you all

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<v Speaker 4>know it, but like he was my hero and if

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<v Speaker 4>and I was just thinking, like, man, it's so cool

421
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<v Speaker 4>he's going to be head coach at Simmons College. I'm

422
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<v Speaker 4>so happy for him. And then I you know, thought

423
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<v Speaker 4>back to his playing days and just how awesome he was,

424
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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, you know what, like if Pat Kelsey

425
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<v Speaker 4>decided to or retire help and you know, and somebody

426
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<v Speaker 4>tells me they're thinking about hiring Dwan Whet even if

427
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<v Speaker 4>he never won a game at Simmons College, I think

428
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<v Speaker 4>I'd be like, yeah, he's Dawon wee. Let's do it

429
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<v Speaker 4>so it'll you know, I don't think that's ever gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 4>but really happy for him. And yeah, I don't have

431
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<v Speaker 4>a whole lot to add other than that, but I'm

432
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<v Speaker 4>sure a lot of you. And this is what we'll

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<v Speaker 4>get into later. This is what I wanted to make

434
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<v Speaker 4>a conversation later. There are many former players or maybe

435
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<v Speaker 4>celebrities in different aspects of fame that you know that

436
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<v Speaker 4>if they walked into I don't know, a restaurant or

437
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<v Speaker 4>a lobby of a bit I don't know, walked walked

438
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<v Speaker 4>into you know, a place that at a bunch of people.

439
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<v Speaker 4>I guess you could say, you know, a restaurant or

440
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<v Speaker 4>a bar or something like that. If you really gave

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<v Speaker 4>it some thought, maybe ninety five percent or more would

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<v Speaker 4>not know who said person was. However, you might be

443
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<v Speaker 4>starstruck like that's that's that's Dewan wheat for me. So

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<v Speaker 4>we can get into all that, and we got a

445
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<v Speaker 4>lot of other things we need to get into. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go ahead and try to keep this thing

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<v Speaker 4>on track. Work on a clock management here, so let's

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<v Speaker 4>get to a quick break. We'll keep it rolling along again.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, Coffee and Company rolling along here on a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful Wednesday afternoon. Happy hump day. Don't forget Keith Thornton's

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<v Speaker 4>in mind. Stopped in today this morning and got myself

460
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<v Speaker 4>one of those delicious breakfast sandwiches, the sausage, egg and

461
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<v Speaker 4>cheese croissant. Very delicious. And I'm sure there's other great

462
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<v Speaker 4>breakfast sandwich is out there elsewhere, but I would put

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<v Speaker 4>that one up against any It's uh, it is that

464
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<v Speaker 4>it is that good, all right. So to pick up

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<v Speaker 4>where we left off yesterday, and we spend a lot

466
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<v Speaker 4>of time talking about it, and I'm not going to

467
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<v Speaker 4>really add any different thoughts on Casein and his situation,

468
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<v Speaker 4>but for those asking or I guess maybe more so

469
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<v Speaker 4>those that are irritated that it's a conversation. Those folks

470
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<v Speaker 4>are echoing the same thoughts, which is, he hasn't said

471
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<v Speaker 4>he's transferring. Why do we need him to come out

472
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<v Speaker 4>like he's here? He wasn't going to be here, he'd

473
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<v Speaker 4>say it. And you are accurate in saying that we

474
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<v Speaker 4>were not sitting around waiting to hear from CANi Rouss

475
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<v Speaker 4>or James Scott, because there's just it seems to be

476
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<v Speaker 4>just a given that those guys would be back. And

477
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<v Speaker 4>I just think this is another example of how different

478
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<v Speaker 4>everything is now in college athletics, because I don't really

479
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<v Speaker 4>know if you need, like, I'm not sitting around waiting

480
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<v Speaker 4>to hear from James Scott or can I Rouss, although

481
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<v Speaker 4>can I did come out and say, and it's probably

482
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<v Speaker 4>just in the heat of the moment, but he did

483
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<v Speaker 4>say right after the season ended that he can't wait

484
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<v Speaker 4>to come back and help, you know, get this thing

485
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<v Speaker 4>head and and you know, hit say head in the

486
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<v Speaker 4>right direction they are heading. They were headed in the

487
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<v Speaker 4>right direction this season, But he can't wait to come

488
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<v Speaker 4>back and you know, making even bigger impact as a sophomore.

489
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<v Speaker 4>That kind of stuff, and with James Scott. He doesn't

490
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<v Speaker 4>like talking to anybody.

491
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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

492
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<v Speaker 4>Pat said this at one point and it was an exaggeration,

493
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<v Speaker 4>but like, I think it's true to an extent that

494
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<v Speaker 4>when James Scott had his teeth knocked up into his

495
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<v Speaker 4>gum and you know, had to wear his mask and

496
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<v Speaker 4>you know, had to go, he had to sit in

497
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<v Speaker 4>a dentist chair for you know, which can't be comfortable

498
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<v Speaker 4>for a six to eleven guy, right, but he had

499
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<v Speaker 4>to send a dentist chair for hours after that happened

500
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<v Speaker 4>against Miami, and Pat Kelsey said that he thinks he

501
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<v Speaker 4>would have preferred to be in that dentist chair than

502
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<v Speaker 4>be in front of a microphone at a press conference

503
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<v Speaker 4>or anything, just because he's not at all like he

504
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<v Speaker 4>didn't like talking. He's just a very quiet guy that

505
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<v Speaker 4>you know, he's not all about you know, he's not

506
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<v Speaker 4>doesn't really like attention, to be honest with you. So anyways,

507
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<v Speaker 4>those guys, we wouldn't expect them to hit the portal

508
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<v Speaker 4>and be like big, big, big names. They would certainly

509
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<v Speaker 4>find good landing spots, but and they're also coming off of,

510
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<v Speaker 4>you know, a freshman and sophomore season with casein I mean,

511
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<v Speaker 4>let's just be real. I mean, the difference is quite obvious.

512
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<v Speaker 4>He is He's one of those guys that is absolutely

513
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<v Speaker 4>taking advantage as he should of being able to stay

514
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<v Speaker 4>in college basketball as long as he can. I mean,

515
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<v Speaker 4>he would have finished his Cason got two years when

516
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<v Speaker 4>he started his season at Louisville last year. At that time,

517
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<v Speaker 4>if you remember, it was it was it and here

518
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<v Speaker 4>we are, you know, in I guess maybe a year

519
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<v Speaker 4>after he committed. He has two years of lagement he

520
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<v Speaker 4>left if he wants them, because he gets the JUCO

521
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<v Speaker 4>year like all these other guys get. That's an added year,

522
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<v Speaker 4>and he also has a medical red shirt. So to me,

523
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<v Speaker 4>it's a no brainer. This guy is going. He's not

524
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<v Speaker 4>an NBA prospect, and I'm not sure James Scott orknai

525
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<v Speaker 4>Rus are going to be, but they at least, you know,

526
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<v Speaker 4>they're much younger in their career. I mean, case In

527
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<v Speaker 4>Pryor is probably four to five years older than both

528
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<v Speaker 4>those guys. So he's still playing college because the NBA

529
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<v Speaker 4>does not appear to be in his future and he

530
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<v Speaker 4>can make a lot of money. And this isn't like,

531
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't want to act like it's a

532
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<v Speaker 4>no brainer. Of course we would be expecting some kind

533
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<v Speaker 4>of an announcement, but we got it from Javon Hadley,

534
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 4>and I kind of felt like that was needed because again,

535
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<v Speaker 4>these two guys are in different situations than really anybody

536
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<v Speaker 4>else on this Louisville team, because they got extra years

537
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<v Speaker 4>because of situations that you know, you don't predict happening,

538
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<v Speaker 4>but it happened, and here we are, and you know,

539
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anybody's like financial situation. And I don't

540
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<v Speaker 4>want to make it sound as if like, well, these

541
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<v Speaker 4>guys surely they're desperate for money, so they may hit

542
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<v Speaker 4>the portal and just go to the highest bidder because

543
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 4>they're poor. Like I don't want to make it sound

544
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<v Speaker 4>like that, but when you are this late in your

545
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<v Speaker 4>college career, like you were evaluating every little thing because

546
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<v Speaker 4>you don't really have a whole lot of time, right, Like,

547
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<v Speaker 4>it's not like, well, I'll go to this school and

548
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:56.559
<v Speaker 4>see how it plays out for a year and if not,

549
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<v Speaker 4>I'll go play two more years elsewhere. So if case

550
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<v Speaker 4>and doesn't put out anything that states he's coming back,

551
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.599
<v Speaker 4>but he but he is here and doesn't hit the

552
00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.359
<v Speaker 4>portal before the deadline, that'll be great. So like I

553
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.680
<v Speaker 4>don't need him to do it. Whatever, whatever he wants

554
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<v Speaker 4>to do, I'm fine with as long as he comes back.

555
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<v Speaker 4>And look, if he doesn't come back, that's his decision.

556
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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't, I don't really. I think eventually it's

557
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<v Speaker 4>gonna be very, very evident that this is all transactional.

558
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<v Speaker 4>So we're probably not gonna have a whole lot of

559
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.720
<v Speaker 4>hard feelings for guys that just decide, you know, they're

560
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<v Speaker 4>gonna go elsewhere because they're gonna do it's best for them.

561
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 4>It's not personal, it's transactional. It's what it is. So

562
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if he's gonna put something out, but

563
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<v Speaker 4>I would expect that if he does come back, which

564
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<v Speaker 4>I expect you will, that there will be some sort

565
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<v Speaker 4>of a cause. Again, if you put yourself in his shoes, like,

566
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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't you want Like it's a human it's a human

567
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:52.880
<v Speaker 4>nature type of thing. You want to be appreciated, right,

568
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<v Speaker 4>Some people I guess want to be appreciated or seek

569
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<v Speaker 4>appreciation and acknowledgment more than others. But I think it's

570
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<v Speaker 4>almost unnatural as a human to not not necessarily seek

571
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<v Speaker 4>it out. But like if Cason Pryor announces that he's

572
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<v Speaker 4>going to come back with some type of video similar

573
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<v Speaker 4>to what Javon Hadley did that is going to be

574
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<v Speaker 4>a big celebration among the fan base, and that should

575
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<v Speaker 4>make him feel good. Therefore, like, if you can do that,

576
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<v Speaker 4>why would you not and look marketing material like that.

577
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a whole new world. When I started

578
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<v Speaker 4>covering college athletics many many years ago, you didn't have

579
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<v Speaker 4>an entire department that worked for different teams within your

580
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 4>athletic department that just create content like social media, videos,

581
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 4>cinematic stuff, graphics, that kind of stuff. So you know,

582
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<v Speaker 4>you got to be active because it's a competitive business,

583
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 4>right college athletics, and it's you know, so I would

584
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 4>expect that he will make an announcement and he'll be back,

585
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.640
<v Speaker 4>but we shall see. Now back to what I just

586
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<v Speaker 4>said a moment ago, when it comes to the not

587
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:04.519
<v Speaker 4>having hard feelings for somebody who just decides that they

588
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 4>are going to do what's best for them, and and

589
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 4>what's best for them in their mind is not playing

590
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<v Speaker 4>for your school, Kentucky fans may need a little more

591
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 4>time than everybody else to kind of, you know, get

592
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:19.759
<v Speaker 4>to that because Wilkerson deciding to commit to Indiana yesterday

593
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 4>over Kentucky. I think more than anything, it was a

594
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.720
<v Speaker 4>surprise because there was really no I mean I wasn't

595
00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 4>following it super closely, but there didn't seem to be

596
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 4>any reports that you know, Kentucky was was was behind

597
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 4>and Indiana had some big lead. In fact, I think

598
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 4>him leaving Indiana without committing and then going to Kentucky

599
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.640
<v Speaker 4>and then of course they put the full court press

600
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 4>on they had him at Keenlin. I mean, I would

601
00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 4>imagine they were selling him on, you know, a big role,

602
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:54.920
<v Speaker 4>and he decided to go to Indiana, and it happens

603
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 4>like I wish I could be genuine and be like, oh,

604
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 4>this is this is this is a bad side for Mark.

605
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<v Speaker 4>Oh now come, I mean he I mean maybe it is.

606
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, but I'm just well aware that you

607
00:30:05.880 --> 00:30:11.440
<v Speaker 4>can have a lot to offer money, playing time prime

608
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.720
<v Speaker 4>time program that plays on national TV all the time,

609
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:17.200
<v Speaker 4>a huge fan base, like you can have that, but

610
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 4>others have it too, Like there could be five schools

611
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 4>that are all kind of in the same neighborhood and

612
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:25.039
<v Speaker 4>it may just come down to a preference for a

613
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 4>young man may not just be money.

614
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<v Speaker 5>So I.

615
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<v Speaker 4>Don't want to say I'm fascinated, but it is really

616
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<v Speaker 4>stood out to just see that the Kentucky fans, at

617
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<v Speaker 4>least those that are you know, active online calling into shows,

618
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<v Speaker 4>you know, that are that are into it like that

619
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<v Speaker 4>they have they have an issue with accepting that somebody

620
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<v Speaker 4>could just literally decide to go to a different school

621
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<v Speaker 4>over theres because they want to like there's like a

622
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<v Speaker 4>an inability to just understand that you can lose players too,

623
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 4>and it's not because you know, money, it's not because

624
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.880
<v Speaker 4>of you know, some other reason, like, it's just I

625
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 4>don't know. I guess that I guess, to be honest with you,

626
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 4>I guess it does fascinate me because you know, yesterday,

627
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 4>right after the announcement happened, it was, well, you know,

628
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 4>he didn't want to come to Kentucky to just be another guy. Well, look,

629
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 4>he didn't want to compete. That's why, because there's no

630
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 4>other re the only there's got to be some reason

631
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:32.880
<v Speaker 4>why he didn't pick Kentucky and he picked Indiana. It's

632
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 4>got to because he's scared. He's not ready for this,

633
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 4>he knows. So that's why I was listening. I was

634
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.319
<v Speaker 4>listening to Tom Leacher earlier this morning, and you know,

635
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.119
<v Speaker 4>he didn't say that that this. In fact, he was

636
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.160
<v Speaker 4>very careful with his words, but he said, I'm not

637
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 4>going to speculate, but I would guess if I had

638
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:51.319
<v Speaker 4>to guess, that Kentucky offered him a nice an il

639
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 4>situation and Indiana offered him a little bit better. And

640
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.359
<v Speaker 4>then Kentucky realized, well, you know, we're not committed to

641
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.119
<v Speaker 4>you and that with that money, and you know, best

642
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 4>of luck to you, because you know, they just can't

643
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 4>accept that. Maybe it did and I don't think it

644
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.119
<v Speaker 4>did get to a bidding war, but if it did

645
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 4>get to a bidding war, and it became clear that

646
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 4>no matter what both sides were going to be willing

647
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 4>to match, he could still have picked Indiana and not you,

648
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 4>and like they just they can't quite accept that.

649
00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And I.

650
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Don't know what leads to that. I mean, John cal

651
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 4>Perry got anybody he wanted for the most part, and

652
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 4>that I think just became just for years, I mean

653
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 4>over a decade. Really cal won way more recruiting battles

654
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.559
<v Speaker 4>than he lost. And therefore that just gave you a

655
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 4>sense of I guess, entitlement and arrogance to where if

656
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 4>somebody's not picking Kentucky, then there's got to be It

657
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.680
<v Speaker 4>can't just be because they want to go play at

658
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 4>that school and not this school, because that just doesn't compute.

659
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 4>There's no way that's possible, and I'm telling you it is.

660
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, even before the new world we're in now

661
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.519
<v Speaker 4>with nil, there still guys that would choose to go

662
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 4>to different schools. There weren't many of them, but like

663
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.920
<v Speaker 4>it would happen, but it was never just because they

664
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 4>liked that other school better and they wanted to go

665
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 4>there and play. There was always some kind of like

666
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I remember they lost one kid to Duke

667
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.359
<v Speaker 4>when cal was here, and I'll never forget how much

668
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.400
<v Speaker 4>it just well as mom, it was his mom. I mean,

669
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 4>he wanted to come here, he wanted to play here,

670
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.839
<v Speaker 4>but his mom got away.

671
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>How do you know that?

672
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:26.960
<v Speaker 4>Like you're just trying, you're trying to find some reasoning

673
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:29.799
<v Speaker 4>because you're in denial. But it could just be that

674
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:34.240
<v Speaker 4>they didn't pick your school. Look, Louisville, we've recruited really

675
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.880
<v Speaker 4>well historically, done really well on the portals since it's

676
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.759
<v Speaker 4>been a thing. But at times we compare ourself to

677
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky because again they usually, especially during the Calier, they

678
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:45.519
<v Speaker 4>don't miss much. Now you're going to miss a lot

679
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 4>more than you ever have because it's a different world

680
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.119
<v Speaker 4>within il. But you know, Louisville could lose players even

681
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.119
<v Speaker 4>when Rick was here, Like Rick brought in really good talent,

682
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.960
<v Speaker 4>but we always found ourselves comparing it to Lexington's talent, right,

683
00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.920
<v Speaker 4>and it, you know, made us feel like we had

684
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 4>had a bunch of JV players that we signed that

685
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.519
<v Speaker 4>in fact were like a top three, top five class

686
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 4>in a lot of instances with Rick, but it wasn't

687
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 4>the legendary classes that Cal brought in because because yeah,

688
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:13.079
<v Speaker 4>because that's our rival, that's what we do. We find

689
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 4>ourselves comparing to our rival. So I mean, Louisville fans,

690
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:18.760
<v Speaker 4>it's not to say, well, hey, we're used to it

691
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 4>because we lose every player, But like I think Louisville

692
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:26.719
<v Speaker 4>fans have confidence in if a kid does pick Louisville

693
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 4>over a premier program like a Kansas or something, we're

694
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 4>not totally stunned because at the end of the day,

695
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:34.079
<v Speaker 4>like we know we got a lot to offer too,

696
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 4>and we're a good program, but we also know that

697
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>if you lose a player to somebody, it you know,

698
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.119
<v Speaker 4>it could be. It could be because you know, they

699
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.119
<v Speaker 4>just liked a different school a little bit better than Louisville.

700
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Like that's just how it works. But I think Cali Perry,

701
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.199
<v Speaker 4>despite being gone, he was so dominant. He was there

702
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 4>for such a long time. When I say dominant, I

703
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.280
<v Speaker 4>mean in recruiting. It turned in, it turned into where

704
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:00.760
<v Speaker 4>they just again, there's no scenario any buddy would. I

705
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 4>think Cal rubbed off on him, and he kind of

706
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 4>injected a level of arrogance that may linger with them

707
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.559
<v Speaker 4>for a long time. And look, Kentucky basketball, even before

708
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Cal had good reason to be arrogant. It's one of

709
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 4>the best programs of all time. I've never once acted

710
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 4>like it's not. You know, they Kentucky is elite, and

711
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:22.239
<v Speaker 4>they'll be elite I think from now until the end

712
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 4>of time unless something crazy happens. I don't know how

713
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 4>many titles are gonna win. But like, I don't see

714
00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:29.440
<v Speaker 4>them ever being irrelevant. But I think Cal was different

715
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 4>because Cal not only got any player he wanted, but

716
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:37.079
<v Speaker 4>he carried a level of arrogance. I believe that, you

717
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:42.920
<v Speaker 4>know that was just different. So anyways, we got to

718
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 4>get to a quick break. We will come back here

719
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 4>on the other side, wrap up the three o'clock hour.

720
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure there's plenty of reaction to what I

721
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.320
<v Speaker 4>just said. And again it's not I mean losing Wilkerson.

722
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't even think it's going to be that big

723
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 4>of a deal at the end of the day for

724
00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 4>Kentucky because I think Pope will find a way to

725
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.360
<v Speaker 4>make it work, because that's what he does. However, you know,

726
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.519
<v Speaker 4>I just think life would be better for you moving forward,

727
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.280
<v Speaker 4>especially in this new world with n il to just understand.

728
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes guys are just going to pick a school because

729
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 4>that's what they want to do. You don't have to

730
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 4>just try to, you know, search endlessly to find Well,

731
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 4>there's got to.

732
00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Be Oh, oh, that's what it is.

733
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 4>Took a road trip to Kentucky as a kid, he

734
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:23.440
<v Speaker 4>got sick, doesn't want to come back. That's what it is.

735
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 4>There's no other excuse.

736
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Now back to Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

737
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738
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.239
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739
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:36.159
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740
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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, all right, what the hell was that

741
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

742
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 4>That scared me, all right, So uh oh, so I

743
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 4>was going to go to the phone lines, and I've

744
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 4>got my I turned on and we are going to

745
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:50.679
<v Speaker 4>go to the phone lines. But Austin may have to

746
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 4>do it on his end because what says phone A

747
00:36:54.159 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 4>on my board typically says EPGM studio E. I don't

748
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 4>know what that is.

749
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, uh well, I'm in studio E. You must

750
00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 2>have accidentally pressed aknob or something that took it out

751
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:15.679
<v Speaker 2>of that phone and put it into a program of

752
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 2>studio E. I have no clue. We're still on air

753
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.599
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. We're still yeah, yeah, you know, I just

754
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know what.

755
00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:23.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I probably hit a button or something, or somebody

756
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 4>else did. Maybe you hit the button that says do

757
00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 4>not press anything. We just blame Shane in the dude

758
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.119
<v Speaker 4>because he's always he's always the one using.

759
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 2>This every probably all the way up.

760
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 4>Just blame it on him. But I was gonna tell

761
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 4>you can take us with you reb you go listen

762
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 4>live on the UT Radio. I'm also listened live at

763
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 4>seven ninety Louisville dot Com. I'm not gonna do what

764
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 4>I typically do to bring a caller on because I

765
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 4>don't know if it's gonna work or not, so we'll

766
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.719
<v Speaker 4>just we'll give you the floor here. Can you bring

767
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 4>in mister Mike who joins us?

768
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>We got him? Mike, what's happening? Brother? Welcome in?

769
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Bud. Hey, First of all, I just it really

770
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.760
<v Speaker 5>aggravates me for them all fan bases whenever they act

771
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.480
<v Speaker 5>like a guy that they were recruiting and they go

772
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.760
<v Speaker 5>somewhere else like we didn't want him anyway, Well, you

773
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:04.280
<v Speaker 5>obviously wanted him, or you wouldn't off brought him on campus.

774
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 4>You're right, and and and a new layer to that

775
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 4>is if we paid him big money and got him,

776
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 4>it's they're braggadocious because hey, we got all the money.

777
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.599
<v Speaker 4>But if they lose out, well we weren't willing to

778
00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:18.440
<v Speaker 4>pay that. I mean, he's good, but come on now.

779
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.280
<v Speaker 5>Right, But it also can be true that a guy

780
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 5>maybe didn't want that environment. I mean, I think he

781
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.559
<v Speaker 5>didn't do himself any he didn't do himself any favors

782
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 5>when he said he didn't just want to be another guy.

783
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 5>And I mean, you know, you can build a team

784
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 5>multiple ways. Some guys are building teams with six stars

785
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.280
<v Speaker 5>and going to roll with those six guys and just

786
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 5>have a bunch of scrubs behind them, and other guys

787
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.159
<v Speaker 5>are trying to build kind of the way Florida built it,

788
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:48.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, with a deep roster of ten, ten guys

789
00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.960
<v Speaker 5>you can count on up and down the rock.

790
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 4>And to that to your point, Mike, what makes Florida

791
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.960
<v Speaker 4>so impressive with their championship run and how good they

792
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.679
<v Speaker 4>were is that it certainly seems as if their coaching

793
00:38:59.679 --> 00:39:01.679
<v Speaker 4>staff when they evaluated players and brought them in rather

794
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 4>to be high school kids or transfers, they didn't look

795
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.440
<v Speaker 4>at any ranking, you know what I mean, Like they

796
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 4>weren't even necessarily looking for guys that put up big stats.

797
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:09.920
<v Speaker 4>They were just trying to find guys they felt like

798
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 4>that what they wanted to do, and clearly it worked

799
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:12.599
<v Speaker 4>out well for them.

800
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 5>Right, And you may be looking for different things. I mean,

801
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.880
<v Speaker 5>I can remember when my son was playing AAU, we

802
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.719
<v Speaker 5>had offers to play with much better teams in a

803
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 5>reserve role, but we chose went with the team that

804
00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.280
<v Speaker 5>really wasn't that good, but we were going to play

805
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:29.519
<v Speaker 5>almost the entire game and that was more important to

806
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:30.679
<v Speaker 5>us at that time frame.

807
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 4>Yep, I get it.

808
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.280
<v Speaker 5>This point in his career, getting the most money with

809
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.000
<v Speaker 5>the most playing time is probably more important than competing

810
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.719
<v Speaker 5>for a championship, because anybody that's you know, rationally observing,

811
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.719
<v Speaker 5>is going to look at the Kentucky team or the

812
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.800
<v Speaker 5>Louisville team compared to the Indiana roster, and Indiana is

813
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 5>not competing for any championships next year.

814
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let me ask you this because I saw I

815
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 4>think it might have been one of the on three

816
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:02.119
<v Speaker 4>Sports guys that covers recruiting that before Wilkerson made his decision,

817
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 4>they had said that they were selling him on the

818
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 4>Kobe Breer role and that he.

819
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Was intrigued by that.

820
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 4>And Kobe Bray was a good player, one of the

821
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.880
<v Speaker 4>best shooters in the country, and certainly he at times

822
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.679
<v Speaker 4>elevated his game whenever Butler and Robinson didn't play. But

823
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 4>I kind of feel like that probably worked against Kentucky

824
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:23.400
<v Speaker 4>because you know, Brea was good, but like Wilkerson's averaging

825
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.639
<v Speaker 4>twenty something a game where he was prior and again

826
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.320
<v Speaker 4>he's probably not who knows, maybe he's not as good

827
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 4>as Brea, but I kind of feel like maybe there

828
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 4>was just a mis Kentucky wasn't going to hand the

829
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:33.639
<v Speaker 4>keys to him. They got a Otega Away coming back

830
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 4>who's clearly going to be the best guard on that

831
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:37.880
<v Speaker 4>team regardless of what happens. And you know, I think

832
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<v Speaker 4>you're onto something that it may not be that he

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<v Speaker 4>dislikes Kentucky, but he knows he's got a better chance

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of be more of the man for Indiana

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<v Speaker 4>than he would at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>And also, I mean which Kobe Breier wrote the Kobe

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<v Speaker 5>Breier row when Jackson Robinson was playing, yeah, twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 5>a game and Kobe was playing twenty or the Kobe

840
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<v Speaker 5>row at the end of the season when he was

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<v Speaker 5>playing thirty five minutes a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And and you know, honestly, I think of Brea and

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<v Speaker 4>Terrence Edwards as guys that in the season really did

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<v Speaker 4>have to become much different players as far as what

846
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<v Speaker 4>they were needed to do because of injuries that happened.

847
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<v Speaker 4>And honestly, for the most part, you know, both guys

848
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<v Speaker 4>I thought veterans, veterans were able to adjust and and

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<v Speaker 4>still be you know, I don't think that I'll put

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<v Speaker 4>it this way, I don't think that would be as

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<v Speaker 4>easy as most people realize.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>So a couple of things I found very interesting moving

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<v Speaker 5>away from that is the eagle staff kid from South

855
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<v Speaker 5>Carolina reopening Yep. That that seems very opportunistic at this time.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that that that that screams he realizes he

857
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<v Speaker 4>made a decision too quick and now there's school there's

858
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<v Speaker 4>much better schools that that could that could use him with.

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<v Speaker 5>The higher pay roll.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And did did I say that the quarterbacks for South

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<v Speaker 5>Carolina's entered the portal? And if that's the case, the

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<v Speaker 5>I think their start Carolina will be in the mark

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<v Speaker 5>will be in the Nico.

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<v Speaker 4>That would make sense. That would make sense. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>the call, Mike. Good to hear from you man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>if that is the case, I had missed that. But yes,

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<v Speaker 4>South Carolina would certainly be in the market for And look,

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's plenty of schools that would love to

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<v Speaker 4>have Nico because he's good enough, and he's young, he'll

871
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<v Speaker 4>get better. It was just a terrible decision and a

872
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<v Speaker 4>terrible time to play the hand they played, because it's

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what happens, it's backfired. And I don't see

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<v Speaker 4>a situation where because he's gonna make less money significantly

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<v Speaker 4>less money. Wherever he ends up. It sounds like than

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<v Speaker 4>he was at Tennessee before he asked for a raise.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean, I don't want to make it out

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<v Speaker 4>like I put this in motion, because trust me, I didn't,

879
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<v Speaker 4>but it is wild how Monday, like I was just

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<v Speaker 4>thinking out loud, like what they need to do is

881
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<v Speaker 4>just everybody kind of work together and just let it

882
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<v Speaker 4>be known we're going to control the market here, not you.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody's gonna pay you close to it, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll all probably be in the same ballpark what we're

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<v Speaker 4>willing to pay, and then he'll have to decide what

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<v Speaker 4>he wants to do. Because it sounds like that's exactly

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<v Speaker 4>what's happened right like they did the same thing with

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<v Speaker 4>Deshaun Watson in the NFL. I mean I used the

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<v Speaker 4>example yesterday and the day before. Why not say it

890
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<v Speaker 4>once more just because I think it's exactly what's happening here.

891
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<v Speaker 4>Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson specifically wanted to just make sure he

892
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<v Speaker 4>was making more than Deshaun Watson because he knew he

893
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<v Speaker 4>was way better and more accomplished. But the NFL, collectively,

894
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<v Speaker 4>the owners, I guess gms as well, were like, yeah,

895
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<v Speaker 4>only the dumbass Browns would do that. Nobody's gonna get that.

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<v Speaker 4>Good for DeShawn, he was able to take advantage of

897
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<v Speaker 4>those suckers in Cleveland, but like, that's a one off.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyways, we got to get to a break. Two

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<v Speaker 4>more hours, left a lot more to get into. Stick around, well,

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<v Speaker 4>keep this thing rolling along right here on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 4>seven ninety
