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Speaker 4: All right, Happy hump Day, everybody. Welcome in to another
Speaker 4: edition here of Coffee and Company. Fuel Beth Thornton's on
Speaker 4: Sports Talk seven ninety On a beautiful, beautiful Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 4: It's not real warm, and when it gets the wind
Speaker 4: gets to a whippon, it can be a little chilly,
Speaker 4: but hey, it is beautiful outside and I've been wanting
Speaker 4: some sunshine and we have it today and that has
Speaker 4: me very excited. I'm excited to be here. I'm always
Speaker 4: excited to be here. I think like ninety eight percent
Speaker 4: of the time when I tell you that, I really
Speaker 4: mean it. But I'm telling you I really mean it
Speaker 4: today because as I was on the drive in here, Austin.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about how fortunate we are that this
Speaker 4: is what we get to do, like for a job,
Speaker 4: which I think we try to keep that in mind
Speaker 4: at all times because you never know when it's going
Speaker 4: to come to an end. One day, this won't be
Speaker 4: what we do and it'll be sad. But I've been
Speaker 4: doing some adult stuff today, right. We talked about taxis yesterday.
Speaker 4: You know, overall, I have a great woman who is
Speaker 4: my wife, and she kind of takes care of a
Speaker 4: lot of the adult stuff and I'm very fortunate for that.
Speaker 4: We've talked about it many times really over the years.
Speaker 4: But today, you know, it was one of those days
Speaker 4: where I couldn't wait to just get here and kind
Speaker 4: of you know, block out some adult stuff. And like,
Speaker 4: I don't want to make this about like, you know,
Speaker 4: my my personal life by any means, but you know,
Speaker 4: you experience things sometimes maybe early in your life as
Speaker 4: an adult or maybe a little bit later. You know,
Speaker 4: a lot of us, myself included, like I just get
Speaker 4: caught up in my own bubble, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like sure, I try to, especially with this, with with
Speaker 4: this gig what we do, I try to, you know,
Speaker 4: keep an ear to the ground as far as what's
Speaker 4: being discussed, what's interesting, what is out there that is topical,
Speaker 4: And then really the name of the game is relatability,
Speaker 4: talking about things that people have an opinion on that
Speaker 4: they can relate to. I mean, that's that's that's a
Speaker 4: big key in what we do. But for me, you know,
Speaker 4: I've I've been very lucky up until recently to never
Speaker 4: really have to worry about like issues with with like
Speaker 4: not not my health, but just like with with medical
Speaker 4: care sure, and and this is not new. This is
Speaker 4: I guess been a thing for a long time, and
Speaker 4: I'd heard about it, but I guess, you know, one
Speaker 4: ear out the other, it just wasn't something I ever
Speaker 4: spent much time thinking about until you know, it started
Speaker 4: affecting me. And there's really nothing that can be done
Speaker 4: about it, at least that I don't know if, and
Speaker 4: there's nobody that you know, I'm not starting the show
Speaker 4: by going on a bitching session about you know, about
Speaker 4: any specific entity or any specific person. But you know,
Speaker 4: my daughter, I talked about her many times over the
Speaker 4: over the years, and I know Austin, you know her,
Speaker 4: my daughter Maya. She she's special needs, and she her
Speaker 4: diagnosis is she's autistic, and she also has an intellectual disability,
Speaker 4: and and you know, all in all, she's great. We
Speaker 4: have a great life. I mean, it's it's awesome. So
Speaker 4: I don't bring that up to say, like you know,
Speaker 4: to complain, but you know, with that, there comes, you know,
Speaker 4: there comes just challenges hardships that maybe you know you
Speaker 4: wouldn't experience if if if you're not someone that is
Speaker 4: that is disabled in special needs. But you know, I
Speaker 4: got a pretty good head on my shoulders about all that.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not something that I just you know,
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes it's tough, but overall, like I wouldn't
Speaker 4: change a thing to be honest with you. I mean,
Speaker 4: so with all that said, I'm we're just now as
Speaker 4: a family kind of dealing with like things that I
Speaker 4: just still can't believe are are a thing gives me
Speaker 4: like a pit in my stomach, like you know she's
Speaker 4: got And when you have a when you have a
Speaker 4: child who is you know, in her situation, it's really
Speaker 4: it's a never ending type of thing. As far as evaluations,
Speaker 4: just anything we can learn and get looked at to
Speaker 4: where we can provide a better life for her. To
Speaker 4: where you know, things aren't as challenging at times. So
Speaker 4: it's it's endless. It's a it's a journey, it's a ride,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's just what we do. But she
Speaker 4: she's having she's having some issues where she she just
Speaker 4: gets really really exhausted and she you know, she'll it's
Speaker 4: not like she passes out, but like she just completely
Speaker 4: just gets absolutely winded and exhausted, and just like she
Speaker 4: can't keep her eyes open when she's in school. You know,
Speaker 4: she'll just be sitting up and fall asleep. And it's
Speaker 4: not because she's not getting any rest, you know. So
Speaker 4: we're trying to figure out what's causing that. And that's
Speaker 4: been like such a pain in the ass because you know,
Speaker 4: they told us to get lab work done. Okay, we'll
Speaker 4: do that. Well, then insurance doesn't cover it. So then
Speaker 4: it's just a it's just a back and forth with
Speaker 4: her primary doctor and the insurance company about like we
Speaker 4: shouldn't have to pay fifteen hundred dollars out of pocket.
Speaker 4: We have health insurance.
Speaker 2: What is this right?
Speaker 4: And just it just makes me sick to my stomach
Speaker 4: to know that the insurance companies there are people there
Speaker 4: whose job is to quite literally strategically find and I'm
Speaker 4: sure they've got like a maybe not a script, but
Speaker 4: like you know, there's a strategy to it to where
Speaker 4: they're going to find whatever they can to make sure
Speaker 4: they don't have to pay for anything. And I'm just thinking, like, well,
Speaker 4: we pay for health insurance, we're getting lab work done,
Speaker 4: why wouldn't that cover it? And then also she gets
Speaker 4: speech therapy occupational therapy, and occupational therapy is things like
Speaker 4: helping her be able to get herself dress and and
Speaker 4: things like that. And she's she's been dealing with that.
Speaker 4: I mean, she's been she's had those therapy sessions for
Speaker 4: for a long time and they they're valuable. And even
Speaker 4: you know, even if it was something that we you know,
Speaker 4: can't tell visit by visit a real big growth, why
Speaker 4: would we not do it. It's just a chance for
Speaker 4: her to to you know, to to to develop in
Speaker 4: areas where she's behind. But like now all of a
Speaker 4: sudden that's not covered like somebody whose special needs like insurance,
Speaker 4: Like now we're not going to pay for her speech
Speaker 4: therapy because you know, we we don't see it as
Speaker 4: a necessary kind of thing. And it's just back and
Speaker 4: forth with our doctor, the specialist, the therapists, i should say,
Speaker 4: and then the insurance company. And it's just like it
Speaker 4: it just, I don't know, it makes me, makes me
Speaker 4: angry and sad sometimes just to know that like society
Speaker 4: like this is the thing, and you know, here I am.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's dealing with it. It's it's affecting me
Speaker 4: and my family for the first time. And I'm sure
Speaker 4: there's people listening that have dealt with it for a
Speaker 4: long time and it's been a lot worse. So trust me,
Speaker 4: I know, all in all, there are many others that
Speaker 4: that have much more struggles than we do. But it's just,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just it's drives me insane, and I
Speaker 4: don't you know understand. I've been thinking about it a
Speaker 4: lot today because we're we're she had some testing done
Speaker 4: last week and we're waiting to get those results and
Speaker 4: then this, you know today at school. She she's having
Speaker 4: some issues with the same things. She just really really exhausted.
Speaker 4: And we think, like we have an idea as far
Speaker 4: as what it specifically is, and and if in fact
Speaker 4: we do determine that that that's what it is, then
Speaker 4: she'll be on medication, OK, and it'll and it'll help,
Speaker 4: but like in order to see the specialist that you know,
Speaker 4: that can tell us if in fact, what her primary
Speaker 4: doctor believes could be the issue, and what we believe
Speaker 4: as far as us knowing her behaviors and all that
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. I mean, it's it's an end in endocrinologist.
Speaker 4: Like we can't get an appointment until July, and I'm
Speaker 4: just like, I mean, we're trying our best, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's not one person, it's really not one entity. It's
Speaker 4: just I guess the system, you know, just just just
Speaker 4: making it as difficult as possible. And you know, I'm
Speaker 4: sure we'll deal with much worse in life, not even
Speaker 4: related to just my children, but like, you know, it,
Speaker 4: in the end of the world, it could be a
Speaker 4: lot worse. Overall, we're very fortunate considering, you know, everything,
Speaker 4: But today's one of those days where I'm just like, man,
Speaker 4: I'm lucky in a lot of ways, but to be
Speaker 4: able to just you know, this absolutely is fun. I
Speaker 4: love it. Don't know what I would do without it,
Speaker 4: meeting this show and just what this is however, you know,
Speaker 4: like it's also like an escape from you know, real
Speaker 4: real life stuff, and wouldn't you agree, Like at times,
Speaker 4: you know, there are there there are some things as
Speaker 4: far as like performance related stress that that adds stress
Speaker 4: to this, but overall, like there are people who go
Speaker 4: to work every day and like it's a stressful job,
Speaker 4: like it's it's just really taxing when it comes to
Speaker 4: stress and anxiety, and that would be that would be
Speaker 4: you know, again, it's life for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: So as I as I have you know, been looking
Speaker 4: forward all day to getting here at three o'clock and
Speaker 4: getting this party started. Work is my escape. And I
Speaker 4: just I know that there aren't many people that are
Speaker 4: able to to to say that some people probably have
Speaker 4: stress about real life stuff that isn't work related and
Speaker 4: then they go to work and they have a new
Speaker 4: layer of different types of stress. So anyways, well we'll
Speaker 4: move on. I mean, I could sit here and yap
Speaker 4: about this stuff all day, but I know it's not
Speaker 4: what we're supposed to do here.
Speaker 2: But anyways, if you.
Speaker 4: Know of a of an in dung An Indo chronologist
Speaker 4: that might have an availability before July, no joke, let
Speaker 4: me know, because you know, I.
Speaker 2: Don't even know what Indo is not well, I know,
Speaker 2: I know one endo, but they probably doesn't.
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I'm not I feel like
Speaker 4: I'm saying it correctly, but clearly it sounds about right.
Speaker 4: And there there's there's a there's there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of confidence in the way I'm saying it right. So
Speaker 4: indocrinologist is is I believe?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what is that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: The study of is that?
Speaker 4: Like so they diagnose and treat conditions that involve like hormones,
Speaker 4: and I mean, so what we think has happened here
Speaker 4: is that she has a thyroid disorder and and and
Speaker 4: we think that's why she just gets every now and
Speaker 4: then she just gets so exhausted to where she literally
Speaker 4: can't do much of anything. And then she'll sleep sometimes
Speaker 4: for a long time, like all through the night, and
Speaker 4: then the next day she'll have it. She'll have a
Speaker 4: long nap and just kind of be you know, and
Speaker 4: then then and then she's back to normal. And it's
Speaker 4: never as if she's dealing with like you know, like
Speaker 4: it's not like she's acting sick. It's not like you know,
Speaker 4: there's no she's no, she's just tired and and you know,
Speaker 4: so anyways, long story, short, let's let's let's let me
Speaker 4: escape what's stressing me out in my real life. Let's here,
Speaker 4: let's let's get into the nonsense and have some fun today.
Speaker 2: I mean, look where you're at. Four Street Live was
Speaker 2: built for people to get away from their daily stresses.
Speaker 2: Whether you're coming here to party, ride the mechanical bull,
Speaker 2: get on here and talk about sports takes here in
Speaker 2: our wonderful iHeart radio studio. You need some water cooler talk.
Speaker 2: You need to go out there to the coffee machine,
Speaker 2: act like you're doing something and run into like it's
Speaker 2: Harry Miners. You know, it doesn't need to have like
Speaker 2: an kidd me.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you if you googled vibe enhancement, Terry
Speaker 4: Miner's picture would show up. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: that's just what he does. He's got he's got the
Speaker 4: good vibes.
Speaker 2: Sometimes when I know, like, because I've always been a
Speaker 2: fan of this show, I've always wanted to be on it.
Speaker 2: And look at us now, brother, look at us now.
Speaker 2: I get to talk to you. I get to see
Speaker 2: your face which is which is now shaven after theirst week,
Speaker 2: and then like I'll just be sitting here getting ready
Speaker 2: for the show, and Terry friggin Miners will walk right
Speaker 2: behind me and go, yo, what's up Austin, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's talking to me.
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine if Venetti was in here late in
Speaker 4: the afternoon, then we'd really be hitting the big time, right.
Speaker 2: Would They would need a firing squad to hold us down? No,
Speaker 2: and you mentioned for it.
Speaker 4: So I got here a little b earlier than I
Speaker 4: typically do, and I do this every now and then.
Speaker 4: Have you ever been to the top of this garage,
Speaker 4: the very.
Speaker 2: Top of it? I think so. I think I've snucking
Speaker 2: out there to take in a few naps before.
Speaker 4: So if you ever think of it, drive up to
Speaker 4: the top when you get here or whenever you leave,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to do. There's actually a sneaky, phenomenal
Speaker 4: view of Louisville that like, yeah, I mean again, I guess.
Speaker 2: Any does it get to the point where there's no
Speaker 2: top on the on the roof, like where you go, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I haven't been the way up there yet.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: No, there's yeah, there's some I mean, it's you got
Speaker 4: to I mean, and there's not only the skyline that
Speaker 4: you can see that's beautiful, like behind us, and I
Speaker 4: guess I've never I have never been in a position
Speaker 4: to actually view this, this angle of the church that's
Speaker 4: right next to us, which is a beautiful, very old church.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's called, but it's right next
Speaker 4: to our garage, you know, which what I'm talking about, right,
Speaker 4: that's because because we have taller buildings all throughout downtown
Speaker 4: where we are at least near us. You know, I
Speaker 4: don't I don't ever really think I've seen it. But
Speaker 4: if you get to the top of our garage and
Speaker 4: look to the left like it's it's beautiful. So good
Speaker 4: vibes here on a Wednesday, and we got a lot
Speaker 4: we'll get into and let you guys be a part
Speaker 4: of the show. If you want to text in, you
Speaker 4: can Ellen and Federal Credit Union text line five O
Speaker 4: two four three eight ninety seventy three, and we'll open
Speaker 4: up the phone lines once we go to break here.
Speaker 4: Five oh two five seven one seventy nine hundred is
Speaker 4: the number if you'd like to u to give us
Speaker 4: a call. And uh, there's not really one specific thing
Speaker 4: that's gonna like drive the show today. We did talk
Speaker 4: a lot yesterday about case and Pryor his decision and
Speaker 4: there's no update. But a couple of people have pointed
Speaker 4: this out throughout the week on the text line is like,
Speaker 4: do we need a type of announcement for Case and
Speaker 4: Pryor whenever we didn't get one and aren't expecting anything
Speaker 4: from a James Scott or a Cannai Ruse And I've
Speaker 4: got I've got, you know, Case, I can do whatever
Speaker 4: the hell he wants. I hope he comes back, and
Speaker 4: regardless if he gives us a big Instagram graphic with
Speaker 4: a quote or he doesn't, if he's back, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be happy. But I've got some thoughts on that. Also
Speaker 4: when you I'm trying to think of an example, and
Speaker 4: I should have. I should have given this a little
Speaker 4: bit more thought throughout the day, because I'm sure there
Speaker 4: are other there are other sayings like this that that
Speaker 4: you know it's no and I'll just get into it.
Speaker 4: Kentucky fans with the news yesterday that they lost a
Speaker 4: big time transfer who they were all in on Mark
Speaker 4: Pope took him to Keetland, Baby, I mean he was
Speaker 4: out there in the winter Circle. Pope had on the
Speaker 4: UK letterman jacket, looking like the man and Wilkerson decides
Speaker 4: to go to Indiana. And I think it's been really
Speaker 4: evident in the last twenty four hours that Kentucky fans
Speaker 4: they do not take rejection well. And I think there's
Speaker 4: reasons for that, and we'll get into it today. However,
Speaker 4: like who does take rejection well? Like, clearly you can
Speaker 4: take it better than others, Like if you get you know,
Speaker 4: if you get rejected and you act like a lunatic
Speaker 4: and you know, unload on somebody, you know that that's
Speaker 4: probably about the worst way you could handle it. So
Speaker 4: I guess handling it is. Handling it well would just
Speaker 4: be like not letting, you know, it impact you to
Speaker 4: where you you know, you become out of character or
Speaker 4: something like that. So again, it's kind of like who
Speaker 4: is great, Like, oh, I'm great at taking rejection one
Speaker 4: That would be a sad thing to say, because that
Speaker 4: means you get rejected a lot. So anyways, I just
Speaker 4: I've got some lingering thoughts on just sort of this,
Speaker 4: like this piece of news yesterday. There's layers to it
Speaker 4: as to why I think Kentucky fans have reacted the
Speaker 4: way that they reacted. I don't mean, I don't I
Speaker 4: don't think they're out here acting like complete lunatics. But
Speaker 4: there's a sense of entitlement that I still think is
Speaker 4: all due to the man who coached that program and
Speaker 4: had a lot of success early on and well overall
Speaker 4: was great. I mean, Cayle Perry, say what you want.
Speaker 4: I mean one title, yeah, and that's going to clearly
Speaker 4: be something people bring up. But I mean, he had
Speaker 4: a phenomenal run in Lexington. There's no way around it.
Speaker 4: It was better in the beginning than it was towards
Speaker 4: the end. We all know that. But like what he
Speaker 4: did better than anything, The biggest strength among many that
Speaker 4: he had was getting players, really getting anybody he wanted.
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, again, we'll get into it.
Speaker 4: I've got some thoughts as far as just you know,
Speaker 4: dare I say advice for Kentucky fans. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: you should just expect to start losing players all the time,
Speaker 4: but the days of just getting players because you're Kentucky
Speaker 4: or because you know the guy coaching you gets really
Speaker 4: whoever he wants one, that guy's not there anymore. And
Speaker 4: it's really an entirely different world. And I mean, people
Speaker 4: who wanted to make this somewhat of a segment I'm
Speaker 4: kind of rolling through right now, and I don't want
Speaker 4: to do that, so I'll continue to get the table
Speaker 4: set for the rest of the show, but we will
Speaker 4: talk a little bit more about that. But also the
Speaker 4: Nico Lama la Vela probably not saying it right. I've
Speaker 4: said it five different ways, I think this week. I
Speaker 4: don't know. I mean Nico Tennessee, Nico, we'll call him that.
Speaker 4: And you've got you got me in my own head here, Austin,
Speaker 4: because I don't know is it an L or an?
Speaker 4: I I think it's got to be an L.
Speaker 2: I think it's is it is that what Ilama leve
Speaker 2: because I I actually wanted to defer at first to
Speaker 2: the the Molly Quorum reference and how she said said it.
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, actually, as I type it in right now,
Speaker 2: according to our windows, what windows are we even on
Speaker 2: whatever windows? Whatever I type in a upper case I,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have the traditional like with the with
Speaker 2: the line at the top and the line at the bottom,
Speaker 2: it still looks like you wouldn't mistake it for like
Speaker 2: an L. So I'm I'm thinking that it's an eye
Speaker 2: in there. So I'm thinking it's is it? I A
Speaker 2: lama vea?
Speaker 4: Is how it is?
Speaker 2: I found a video. Okay, this video is from a decided.
Speaker 4: This is from a Knoxville news station who enter and
Speaker 4: this this makes me not feel quite like a dumb ass,
Speaker 4: because there's an entire news segment from this new station
Speaker 4: w A T E six that interviewed fans outside of
Speaker 4: Niland Stadium about six to seven different fans, asking them
Speaker 4: to pronounce it, and then they have him pronounce it.
Speaker 4: And here is is Nico telling us how to say
Speaker 4: his last name. Yeah, that's not easy to say, Yamalava.
Speaker 4: I think you were right though. Honestly, dude, I think Austin,
Speaker 4: I think you you there's Yama liava, Yama Leyava. Okay,
Speaker 4: yama layava.
Speaker 2: That is so hard to say while looking at it.
Speaker 2: So anyways, Nico lama lavea, is that right? Yamaaa yama layava,
Speaker 2: Yama layava yamaa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, yes, one of those yes. So anyways, uh, Tennesse,
Speaker 4: he has zero market and this is ap No matter
Speaker 4: what happens with this guy, it's already played out to
Speaker 4: be I think an example that will be referenced for
Speaker 4: years to come in this new world of college athletics
Speaker 4: where players get paid and they can negotiate deals, because
Speaker 4: this guy got greedy and he completely changed his career
Speaker 4: and he could end up being great elsewhere and then
Speaker 4: maybe get to the end. Like it's not like he's
Speaker 4: destined to be a failure, but it doesn't sound like
Speaker 4: he's going to end up with a big time program.
Speaker 4: And nobody's clearly just this being the first time we've
Speaker 4: ever had a holdout for a college athlete. That alone
Speaker 4: is the story. But what isn't getting mentioned a whole
Speaker 4: lot is that he's not that good. I mean, he's young,
Speaker 4: and he can get better. You can certainly find quarterbacks
Speaker 4: that are a lot worse than him, But this isn't somebody.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was borderline top half in the SEC
Speaker 4: last year. And I know the SEC is an elite
Speaker 4: league in football, we all know that, but it's actually
Speaker 4: not great at quarterbacks, like they've honestly historically, despite being
Speaker 4: so great, they've done it without having many, you know,
Speaker 4: legendary slash elite type quarterbacks. So anyway, I continue to
Speaker 4: be fascinated by that entire thing. Also, how about Dwan
Speaker 4: Wheat Louisville legend, my hero getting the job at Simmons College.
Speaker 4: So happy for Dewan. And I haven't told my wife yet, Austin,
Speaker 4: but like all the money that we've saved for the
Speaker 4: kids college fund, it's now going all to Duwan Wheat
Speaker 4: Simmons and IL fund. Like I'm gonna have to because
Speaker 4: I can't not support. Like that's actually smart, smart thing
Speaker 4: to do with your finances. Yeah, and what's wild is
Speaker 4: that what it's wild about? And I'm joking when I
Speaker 4: say this, but Dwan Wheat is like he's a legend
Speaker 4: and I don't need to tell anybody that you all
Speaker 4: know it, but like he was my hero and if
Speaker 4: and I was just thinking, like, man, it's so cool
Speaker 4: he's going to be head coach at Simmons College. I'm
Speaker 4: so happy for him. And then I you know, thought
Speaker 4: back to his playing days and just how awesome he was,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you know what, like if Pat Kelsey
Speaker 4: decided to or retire help and you know, and somebody
Speaker 4: tells me they're thinking about hiring Dwan Whet even if
Speaker 4: he never won a game at Simmons College, I think
Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, he's Dawon wee. Let's do it
Speaker 4: so it'll you know, I don't think that's ever gonna happen,
Speaker 4: but really happy for him. And yeah, I don't have
Speaker 4: a whole lot to add other than that, but I'm
Speaker 4: sure a lot of you. And this is what we'll
Speaker 4: get into later. This is what I wanted to make
Speaker 4: a conversation later. There are many former players or maybe
Speaker 4: celebrities in different aspects of fame that you know that
Speaker 4: if they walked into I don't know, a restaurant or
Speaker 4: a lobby of a bit I don't know, walked walked
Speaker 4: into you know, a place that at a bunch of people.
Speaker 4: I guess you could say, you know, a restaurant or
Speaker 4: a bar or something like that. If you really gave
Speaker 4: it some thought, maybe ninety five percent or more would
Speaker 4: not know who said person was. However, you might be
Speaker 4: starstruck like that's that's that's Dewan wheat for me. So
Speaker 4: we can get into all that, and we got a
Speaker 4: lot of other things we need to get into. But
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ahead and try to keep this thing
Speaker 4: on track. Work on a clock management here, so let's
Speaker 4: get to a quick break. We'll keep it rolling along again.
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Speaker 4: it is that good, all right. So to pick up
Speaker 4: where we left off yesterday, and we spend a lot
Speaker 4: of time talking about it, and I'm not going to
Speaker 4: really add any different thoughts on Casein and his situation,
Speaker 4: but for those asking or I guess maybe more so
Speaker 4: those that are irritated that it's a conversation. Those folks
Speaker 4: are echoing the same thoughts, which is, he hasn't said
Speaker 4: he's transferring. Why do we need him to come out
Speaker 4: like he's here? He wasn't going to be here, he'd
Speaker 4: say it. And you are accurate in saying that we
Speaker 4: were not sitting around waiting to hear from CANi Rouss
Speaker 4: or James Scott, because there's just it seems to be
Speaker 4: just a given that those guys would be back. And
Speaker 4: I just think this is another example of how different
Speaker 4: everything is now in college athletics, because I don't really
Speaker 4: know if you need, like, I'm not sitting around waiting
Speaker 4: to hear from James Scott or can I Rouss, although
Speaker 4: can I did come out and say, and it's probably
Speaker 4: just in the heat of the moment, but he did
Speaker 4: say right after the season ended that he can't wait
Speaker 4: to come back and help, you know, get this thing
Speaker 4: head and and you know, hit say head in the
Speaker 4: right direction they are heading. They were headed in the
Speaker 4: right direction this season, But he can't wait to come
Speaker 4: back and you know, making even bigger impact as a sophomore.
Speaker 4: That kind of stuff, and with James Scott. He doesn't
Speaker 4: like talking to anybody.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: Pat said this at one point and it was an exaggeration,
Speaker 4: but like, I think it's true to an extent that
Speaker 4: when James Scott had his teeth knocked up into his
Speaker 4: gum and you know, had to wear his mask and
Speaker 4: you know, had to go, he had to sit in
Speaker 4: a dentist chair for you know, which can't be comfortable
Speaker 4: for a six to eleven guy, right, but he had
Speaker 4: to send a dentist chair for hours after that happened
Speaker 4: against Miami, and Pat Kelsey said that he thinks he
Speaker 4: would have preferred to be in that dentist chair than
Speaker 4: be in front of a microphone at a press conference
Speaker 4: or anything, just because he's not at all like he
Speaker 4: didn't like talking. He's just a very quiet guy that
Speaker 4: you know, he's not all about you know, he's not
Speaker 4: doesn't really like attention, to be honest with you. So anyways,
Speaker 4: those guys, we wouldn't expect them to hit the portal
Speaker 4: and be like big, big, big names. They would certainly
Speaker 4: find good landing spots, but and they're also coming off of,
Speaker 4: you know, a freshman and sophomore season with casein I mean,
Speaker 4: let's just be real. I mean, the difference is quite obvious.
Speaker 4: He is He's one of those guys that is absolutely
Speaker 4: taking advantage as he should of being able to stay
Speaker 4: in college basketball as long as he can. I mean,
Speaker 4: he would have finished his Cason got two years when
Speaker 4: he started his season at Louisville last year. At that time,
Speaker 4: if you remember, it was it was it and here
Speaker 4: we are, you know, in I guess maybe a year
Speaker 4: after he committed. He has two years of lagement he
Speaker 4: left if he wants them, because he gets the JUCO
Speaker 4: year like all these other guys get. That's an added year,
Speaker 4: and he also has a medical red shirt. So to me,
Speaker 4: it's a no brainer. This guy is going. He's not
Speaker 4: an NBA prospect, and I'm not sure James Scott orknai
Speaker 4: Rus are going to be, but they at least, you know,
Speaker 4: they're much younger in their career. I mean, case In
Speaker 4: Pryor is probably four to five years older than both
Speaker 4: those guys. So he's still playing college because the NBA
Speaker 4: does not appear to be in his future and he
Speaker 4: can make a lot of money. And this isn't like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to act like it's a
Speaker 4: no brainer. Of course we would be expecting some kind
Speaker 4: of an announcement, but we got it from Javon Hadley,
Speaker 4: and I kind of felt like that was needed because again,
Speaker 4: these two guys are in different situations than really anybody
Speaker 4: else on this Louisville team, because they got extra years
Speaker 4: because of situations that you know, you don't predict happening,
Speaker 4: but it happened, and here we are, and you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody's like financial situation. And I don't
Speaker 4: want to make it sound as if like, well, these
Speaker 4: guys surely they're desperate for money, so they may hit
Speaker 4: the portal and just go to the highest bidder because
Speaker 4: they're poor. Like I don't want to make it sound
Speaker 4: like that, but when you are this late in your
Speaker 4: college career, like you were evaluating every little thing because
Speaker 4: you don't really have a whole lot of time, right, Like,
Speaker 4: it's not like, well, I'll go to this school and
Speaker 4: see how it plays out for a year and if not,
Speaker 4: I'll go play two more years elsewhere. So if case
Speaker 4: and doesn't put out anything that states he's coming back,
Speaker 4: but he but he is here and doesn't hit the
Speaker 4: portal before the deadline, that'll be great. So like I
Speaker 4: don't need him to do it. Whatever, whatever he wants
Speaker 4: to do, I'm fine with as long as he comes back.
Speaker 4: And look, if he doesn't come back, that's his decision.
Speaker 4: Like I don't, I don't really. I think eventually it's
Speaker 4: gonna be very, very evident that this is all transactional.
Speaker 4: So we're probably not gonna have a whole lot of
Speaker 4: hard feelings for guys that just decide, you know, they're
Speaker 4: gonna go elsewhere because they're gonna do it's best for them.
Speaker 4: It's not personal, it's transactional. It's what it is. So
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's gonna put something out, but
Speaker 4: I would expect that if he does come back, which
Speaker 4: I expect you will, that there will be some sort
Speaker 4: of a cause. Again, if you put yourself in his shoes, like,
Speaker 4: wouldn't you want Like it's a human it's a human
Speaker 4: nature type of thing. You want to be appreciated, right,
Speaker 4: Some people I guess want to be appreciated or seek
Speaker 4: appreciation and acknowledgment more than others. But I think it's
Speaker 4: almost unnatural as a human to not not necessarily seek
Speaker 4: it out. But like if Cason Pryor announces that he's
Speaker 4: going to come back with some type of video similar
Speaker 4: to what Javon Hadley did that is going to be
Speaker 4: a big celebration among the fan base, and that should
Speaker 4: make him feel good. Therefore, like, if you can do that,
Speaker 4: why would you not and look marketing material like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a whole new world. When I started
Speaker 4: covering college athletics many many years ago, you didn't have
Speaker 4: an entire department that worked for different teams within your
Speaker 4: athletic department that just create content like social media, videos,
Speaker 4: cinematic stuff, graphics, that kind of stuff. So you know,
Speaker 4: you got to be active because it's a competitive business,
Speaker 4: right college athletics, and it's you know, so I would
Speaker 4: expect that he will make an announcement and he'll be back,
Speaker 4: but we shall see. Now back to what I just
Speaker 4: said a moment ago, when it comes to the not
Speaker 4: having hard feelings for somebody who just decides that they
Speaker 4: are going to do what's best for them, and and
Speaker 4: what's best for them in their mind is not playing
Speaker 4: for your school, Kentucky fans may need a little more
Speaker 4: time than everybody else to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 4: to that because Wilkerson deciding to commit to Indiana yesterday
Speaker 4: over Kentucky. I think more than anything, it was a
Speaker 4: surprise because there was really no I mean I wasn't
Speaker 4: following it super closely, but there didn't seem to be
Speaker 4: any reports that you know, Kentucky was was was behind
Speaker 4: and Indiana had some big lead. In fact, I think
Speaker 4: him leaving Indiana without committing and then going to Kentucky
Speaker 4: and then of course they put the full court press
Speaker 4: on they had him at Keenlin. I mean, I would
Speaker 4: imagine they were selling him on, you know, a big role,
Speaker 4: and he decided to go to Indiana, and it happens
Speaker 4: like I wish I could be genuine and be like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is this is this is a bad side for Mark.
Speaker 4: Oh now come, I mean he I mean maybe it is.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm just well aware that you
Speaker 4: can have a lot to offer money, playing time prime
Speaker 4: time program that plays on national TV all the time,
Speaker 4: a huge fan base, like you can have that, but
Speaker 4: others have it too, Like there could be five schools
Speaker 4: that are all kind of in the same neighborhood and
Speaker 4: it may just come down to a preference for a
Speaker 4: young man may not just be money.
Speaker 5: So I.
Speaker 4: Don't want to say I'm fascinated, but it is really
Speaker 4: stood out to just see that the Kentucky fans, at
Speaker 4: least those that are you know, active online calling into shows,
Speaker 4: you know, that are that are into it like that
Speaker 4: they have they have an issue with accepting that somebody
Speaker 4: could just literally decide to go to a different school
Speaker 4: over theres because they want to like there's like a
Speaker 4: an inability to just understand that you can lose players too,
Speaker 4: and it's not because you know, money, it's not because
Speaker 4: of you know, some other reason, like, it's just I
Speaker 4: don't know. I guess that I guess, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: I guess it does fascinate me because you know, yesterday,
Speaker 4: right after the announcement happened, it was, well, you know,
Speaker 4: he didn't want to come to Kentucky to just be another guy. Well, look,
Speaker 4: he didn't want to compete. That's why, because there's no
Speaker 4: other re the only there's got to be some reason
Speaker 4: why he didn't pick Kentucky and he picked Indiana. It's
Speaker 4: got to because he's scared. He's not ready for this,
Speaker 4: he knows. So that's why I was listening. I was
Speaker 4: listening to Tom Leacher earlier this morning, and you know,
Speaker 4: he didn't say that that this. In fact, he was
Speaker 4: very careful with his words, but he said, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to speculate, but I would guess if I had
Speaker 4: to guess, that Kentucky offered him a nice an il
Speaker 4: situation and Indiana offered him a little bit better. And
Speaker 4: then Kentucky realized, well, you know, we're not committed to
Speaker 4: you and that with that money, and you know, best
Speaker 4: of luck to you, because you know, they just can't
Speaker 4: accept that. Maybe it did and I don't think it
Speaker 4: did get to a bidding war, but if it did
Speaker 4: get to a bidding war, and it became clear that
Speaker 4: no matter what both sides were going to be willing
Speaker 4: to match, he could still have picked Indiana and not you,
Speaker 4: and like they just they can't quite accept that.
Speaker 2: And I.
Speaker 4: Don't know what leads to that. I mean, John cal
Speaker 4: Perry got anybody he wanted for the most part, and
Speaker 4: that I think just became just for years, I mean
Speaker 4: over a decade. Really cal won way more recruiting battles
Speaker 4: than he lost. And therefore that just gave you a
Speaker 4: sense of I guess, entitlement and arrogance to where if
Speaker 4: somebody's not picking Kentucky, then there's got to be It
Speaker 4: can't just be because they want to go play at
Speaker 4: that school and not this school, because that just doesn't compute.
Speaker 4: There's no way that's possible, and I'm telling you it is.
Speaker 4: I mean, even before the new world we're in now
Speaker 4: with nil, there still guys that would choose to go
Speaker 4: to different schools. There weren't many of them, but like
Speaker 4: it would happen, but it was never just because they
Speaker 4: liked that other school better and they wanted to go
Speaker 4: there and play. There was always some kind of like
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember they lost one kid to Duke
Speaker 4: when cal was here, and I'll never forget how much
Speaker 4: it just well as mom, it was his mom. I mean,
Speaker 4: he wanted to come here, he wanted to play here,
Speaker 4: but his mom got away.
Speaker 3: How do you know that?
Speaker 4: Like you're just trying, you're trying to find some reasoning
Speaker 4: because you're in denial. But it could just be that
Speaker 4: they didn't pick your school. Look, Louisville, we've recruited really
Speaker 4: well historically, done really well on the portals since it's
Speaker 4: been a thing. But at times we compare ourself to
Speaker 4: Kentucky because again they usually, especially during the Calier, they
Speaker 4: don't miss much. Now you're going to miss a lot
Speaker 4: more than you ever have because it's a different world
Speaker 4: within il. But you know, Louisville could lose players even
Speaker 4: when Rick was here, Like Rick brought in really good talent,
Speaker 4: but we always found ourselves comparing it to Lexington's talent, right,
Speaker 4: and it, you know, made us feel like we had
Speaker 4: had a bunch of JV players that we signed that
Speaker 4: in fact were like a top three, top five class
Speaker 4: in a lot of instances with Rick, but it wasn't
Speaker 4: the legendary classes that Cal brought in because because yeah,
Speaker 4: because that's our rival, that's what we do. We find
Speaker 4: ourselves comparing to our rival. So I mean, Louisville fans,
Speaker 4: it's not to say, well, hey, we're used to it
Speaker 4: because we lose every player, But like I think Louisville
Speaker 4: fans have confidence in if a kid does pick Louisville
Speaker 4: over a premier program like a Kansas or something, we're
Speaker 4: not totally stunned because at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: like we know we got a lot to offer too,
Speaker 4: and we're a good program, but we also know that
Speaker 4: if you lose a player to somebody, it you know,
Speaker 4: it could be. It could be because you know, they
Speaker 4: just liked a different school a little bit better than Louisville.
Speaker 4: Like that's just how it works. But I think Cali Perry,
Speaker 4: despite being gone, he was so dominant. He was there
Speaker 4: for such a long time. When I say dominant, I
Speaker 4: mean in recruiting. It turned in, it turned into where
Speaker 4: they just again, there's no scenario any buddy would. I
Speaker 4: think Cal rubbed off on him, and he kind of
Speaker 4: injected a level of arrogance that may linger with them
Speaker 4: for a long time. And look, Kentucky basketball, even before
Speaker 4: Cal had good reason to be arrogant. It's one of
Speaker 4: the best programs of all time. I've never once acted
Speaker 4: like it's not. You know, they Kentucky is elite, and
Speaker 4: they'll be elite I think from now until the end
Speaker 4: of time unless something crazy happens. I don't know how
Speaker 4: many titles are gonna win. But like, I don't see
Speaker 4: them ever being irrelevant. But I think Cal was different
Speaker 4: because Cal not only got any player he wanted, but
Speaker 4: he carried a level of arrogance. I believe that, you
Speaker 4: know that was just different. So anyways, we got to
Speaker 4: get to a quick break. We will come back here
Speaker 4: on the other side, wrap up the three o'clock hour.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure there's plenty of reaction to what I
Speaker 4: just said. And again it's not I mean losing Wilkerson.
Speaker 4: I don't even think it's going to be that big
Speaker 4: of a deal at the end of the day for
Speaker 4: Kentucky because I think Pope will find a way to
Speaker 4: make it work, because that's what he does. However, you know,
Speaker 4: I just think life would be better for you moving forward,
Speaker 4: especially in this new world with n il to just understand.
Speaker 4: Sometimes guys are just going to pick a school because
Speaker 4: that's what they want to do. You don't have to
Speaker 4: just try to, you know, search endlessly to find Well,
Speaker 4: there's got to.
Speaker 2: Be Oh, oh, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: Took a road trip to Kentucky as a kid, he
Speaker 4: got sick, doesn't want to come back. That's what it is.
Speaker 4: There's no other excuse.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, all right, what the hell was that
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: That scared me, all right, So uh oh, so I
Speaker 4: was going to go to the phone lines, and I've
Speaker 4: got my I turned on and we are going to
Speaker 4: go to the phone lines. But Austin may have to
Speaker 4: do it on his end because what says phone A
Speaker 4: on my board typically says EPGM studio E. I don't
Speaker 4: know what that is.
Speaker 2: So anyways, uh well, I'm in studio E. You must
Speaker 2: have accidentally pressed aknob or something that took it out
Speaker 2: of that phone and put it into a program of
Speaker 2: studio E. I have no clue. We're still on air
Speaker 2: and stuff. We're still yeah, yeah, you know, I just
Speaker 2: I just don't know what.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably hit a button or something, or somebody
Speaker 4: else did. Maybe you hit the button that says do
Speaker 4: not press anything. We just blame Shane in the dude
Speaker 4: because he's always he's always the one using.
Speaker 2: This every probably all the way up.
Speaker 4: Just blame it on him. But I was gonna tell
Speaker 4: you can take us with you reb you go listen
Speaker 4: live on the UT Radio. I'm also listened live at
Speaker 4: seven ninety Louisville dot Com. I'm not gonna do what
Speaker 4: I typically do to bring a caller on because I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's gonna work or not, so we'll
Speaker 4: just we'll give you the floor here. Can you bring
Speaker 4: in mister Mike who joins us?
Speaker 2: We got him? Mike, what's happening? Brother? Welcome in?
Speaker 5: Hey, Bud. Hey, First of all, I just it really
Speaker 5: aggravates me for them all fan bases whenever they act
Speaker 5: like a guy that they were recruiting and they go
Speaker 5: somewhere else like we didn't want him anyway, Well, you
Speaker 5: obviously wanted him, or you wouldn't off brought him on campus.
Speaker 4: You're right, and and and a new layer to that
Speaker 4: is if we paid him big money and got him,
Speaker 4: it's they're braggadocious because hey, we got all the money.
Speaker 4: But if they lose out, well we weren't willing to
Speaker 4: pay that. I mean, he's good, but come on now.
Speaker 5: Right, But it also can be true that a guy
Speaker 5: maybe didn't want that environment. I mean, I think he
Speaker 5: didn't do himself any he didn't do himself any favors
Speaker 5: when he said he didn't just want to be another guy.
Speaker 5: And I mean, you know, you can build a team
Speaker 5: multiple ways. Some guys are building teams with six stars
Speaker 5: and going to roll with those six guys and just
Speaker 5: have a bunch of scrubs behind them, and other guys
Speaker 5: are trying to build kind of the way Florida built it,
Speaker 5: you know, with a deep roster of ten, ten guys
Speaker 5: you can count on up and down the rock.
Speaker 4: And to that to your point, Mike, what makes Florida
Speaker 4: so impressive with their championship run and how good they
Speaker 4: were is that it certainly seems as if their coaching
Speaker 4: staff when they evaluated players and brought them in rather
Speaker 4: to be high school kids or transfers, they didn't look
Speaker 4: at any ranking, you know what I mean, Like they
Speaker 4: weren't even necessarily looking for guys that put up big stats.
Speaker 4: They were just trying to find guys they felt like
Speaker 4: that what they wanted to do, and clearly it worked
Speaker 4: out well for them.
Speaker 5: Right, And you may be looking for different things. I mean,
Speaker 5: I can remember when my son was playing AAU, we
Speaker 5: had offers to play with much better teams in a
Speaker 5: reserve role, but we chose went with the team that
Speaker 5: really wasn't that good, but we were going to play
Speaker 5: almost the entire game and that was more important to
Speaker 5: us at that time frame.
Speaker 4: Yep, I get it.
Speaker 5: This point in his career, getting the most money with
Speaker 5: the most playing time is probably more important than competing
Speaker 5: for a championship, because anybody that's you know, rationally observing,
Speaker 5: is going to look at the Kentucky team or the
Speaker 5: Louisville team compared to the Indiana roster, and Indiana is
Speaker 5: not competing for any championships next year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me ask you this because I saw I
Speaker 4: think it might have been one of the on three
Speaker 4: Sports guys that covers recruiting that before Wilkerson made his decision,
Speaker 4: they had said that they were selling him on the
Speaker 4: Kobe Breer role and that he.
Speaker 2: Was intrigued by that.
Speaker 4: And Kobe Bray was a good player, one of the
Speaker 4: best shooters in the country, and certainly he at times
Speaker 4: elevated his game whenever Butler and Robinson didn't play. But
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like that probably worked against Kentucky
Speaker 4: because you know, Brea was good, but like Wilkerson's averaging
Speaker 4: twenty something a game where he was prior and again
Speaker 4: he's probably not who knows, maybe he's not as good
Speaker 4: as Brea, but I kind of feel like maybe there
Speaker 4: was just a mis Kentucky wasn't going to hand the
Speaker 4: keys to him. They got a Otega Away coming back
Speaker 4: who's clearly going to be the best guard on that
Speaker 4: team regardless of what happens. And you know, I think
Speaker 4: you're onto something that it may not be that he
Speaker 4: dislikes Kentucky, but he knows he's got a better chance
Speaker 4: to kind of be more of the man for Indiana
Speaker 4: than he would at Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: And also, I mean which Kobe Breier wrote the Kobe
Speaker 5: Breier row when Jackson Robinson was playing, yeah, twenty minutes
Speaker 5: a game and Kobe was playing twenty or the Kobe
Speaker 5: row at the end of the season when he was
Speaker 5: playing thirty five minutes a game.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's right.
Speaker 4: And and you know, honestly, I think of Brea and
Speaker 4: Terrence Edwards as guys that in the season really did
Speaker 4: have to become much different players as far as what
Speaker 4: they were needed to do because of injuries that happened.
Speaker 4: And honestly, for the most part, you know, both guys
Speaker 4: I thought veterans, veterans were able to adjust and and
Speaker 4: still be you know, I don't think that I'll put
Speaker 4: it this way, I don't think that would be as
Speaker 4: easy as most people realize.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So a couple of things I found very interesting moving
Speaker 5: away from that is the eagle staff kid from South
Speaker 5: Carolina reopening Yep. That that seems very opportunistic at this time.
Speaker 4: I mean that that that that screams he realizes he
Speaker 4: made a decision too quick and now there's school there's
Speaker 4: much better schools that that could that could use him with.
Speaker 5: The higher pay roll.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: And did did I say that the quarterbacks for South
Speaker 5: Carolina's entered the portal? And if that's the case, the
Speaker 5: I think their start Carolina will be in the mark
Speaker 5: will be in the Nico.
Speaker 4: That would make sense. That would make sense. I appreciate
Speaker 4: the call, Mike. Good to hear from you man. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if that is the case, I had missed that. But yes,
Speaker 4: South Carolina would certainly be in the market for And look,
Speaker 4: I think there's plenty of schools that would love to
Speaker 4: have Nico because he's good enough, and he's young, he'll
Speaker 4: get better. It was just a terrible decision and a
Speaker 4: terrible time to play the hand they played, because it's
Speaker 4: no matter what happens, it's backfired. And I don't see
Speaker 4: a situation where because he's gonna make less money significantly
Speaker 4: less money. Wherever he ends up. It sounds like than
Speaker 4: he was at Tennessee before he asked for a raise.
Speaker 4: And I mean, I don't want to make it out
Speaker 4: like I put this in motion, because trust me, I didn't,
Speaker 4: but it is wild how Monday, like I was just
Speaker 4: thinking out loud, like what they need to do is
Speaker 4: just everybody kind of work together and just let it
Speaker 4: be known we're going to control the market here, not you.
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna pay you close to it, and then you know,
Speaker 4: we'll all probably be in the same ballpark what we're
Speaker 4: willing to pay, and then he'll have to decide what
Speaker 4: he wants to do. Because it sounds like that's exactly
Speaker 4: what's happened right like they did the same thing with
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson in the NFL. I mean I used the
Speaker 4: example yesterday and the day before. Why not say it
Speaker 4: once more just because I think it's exactly what's happening here.
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson specifically wanted to just make sure he
Speaker 4: was making more than Deshaun Watson because he knew he
Speaker 4: was way better and more accomplished. But the NFL, collectively,
Speaker 4: the owners, I guess gms as well, were like, yeah,
Speaker 4: only the dumbass Browns would do that. Nobody's gonna get that.
Speaker 4: Good for DeShawn, he was able to take advantage of
Speaker 4: those suckers in Cleveland, but like, that's a one off.
Speaker 4: So anyways, we got to get to a break. Two
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