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Speaker 2: as customary, Jackie Ray joins me on this Monday evening.
Speaker 3: Good evening, Jackie Ray, good evening, Good to see you.
Speaker 2: We had talked about how the show Inside the NBA,
Speaker 2: which was on TNT, featured Ernie Johnson Jr. Charles Barkley,
Speaker 2: Kenny Smith, Shaquille O'Neill. I said something to the effect
Speaker 2: that it was the best sports show absolutely on television,
Speaker 2: bar none. Nothing else is close. And I said that
Speaker 2: against the backdrop of this bidding war for NBA television rights.
Speaker 2: T and T had a portion of it, ESPN, Slash,
Speaker 2: ABC had a portion of it, and I know that
Speaker 2: NBC was in the running for it. We do know
Speaker 2: that T and T will not have the rights for
Speaker 2: it anymore. So the question was what was going to
Speaker 2: happen to this gold standard show in the next few years.
Speaker 2: What we do know at least next year, Inside the
Speaker 2: NBA will appear on ESPN and ABC next year. It
Speaker 2: makes perfect sense to me. You have a hit show,
Speaker 2: I mean, a tremendous show, and in fact, it'll probably
Speaker 2: get more exposure on ESPN and ABC together than T
Speaker 2: and T because unless you're like a died in the
Speaker 2: wool NBA fan, you're not watching T and T. They
Speaker 2: don't have as many games as ESPN and ABC, and
Speaker 2: also T and T they don't get to carry the finals,
Speaker 2: so you'll get to see inside the NBA on at
Speaker 2: least those two networks. I don't know if you felt
Speaker 2: this idea, but I think finally they made the easy
Speaker 2: decision right in front of them.
Speaker 4: I thought this was the way to go from the jump.
Speaker 4: I'm a little surprised that it took this long. And
Speaker 4: the reason for that is I know a lot of
Speaker 4: novice basketball fans. To your point, they don't really watch.
Speaker 4: No one really watches CNT for the game. Like if
Speaker 4: you're one of those people who are just scouring, you know,
Speaker 4: because you don't want to pay for whatever service that
Speaker 4: you can watch the Lakers and all that good stuff,
Speaker 4: you might watch. But for the most part, people aren't
Speaker 4: tuning into TNT on a regular basis because it's just
Speaker 4: like you said, doesn't carry enough games. But I literally
Speaker 4: have a friend who is not really a basketball fan,
Speaker 4: but loves to watch TNT because she lives for this show.
Speaker 4: She couldn't tell you what Lebron James's number is. She
Speaker 4: barely knows who Bronni is, but she loves she loves
Speaker 4: the chemistry of this team because they're funny, they're quirky,
Speaker 4: they make halftime fun and they're common. And so you
Speaker 4: don't you don't want to lose that, especially right now
Speaker 4: when the NBA is losing viewership. You don't want to
Speaker 4: lose such a great sports show that is bringing in fans.
Speaker 4: So this was a common sense move for me. I'm
Speaker 4: I'm glad they finally got this done.
Speaker 2: And I say they because the NBA, I'm quite sure
Speaker 2: how to say in this, as well as the networks
Speaker 2: had to say in this to your point, I know
Speaker 2: people me included, I don't even care who was playing
Speaker 2: in the game. I just want to see their show
Speaker 2: inside the NBA. And if you don't know the dynamics
Speaker 2: between Charles Barkley, we've played some of the audio before
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley and Shack are Kenny run for the Kenny
Speaker 2: Smith with his knock knees and running through the big
Speaker 2: screen and he'll fall over or something there are some
Speaker 2: really really funny unscripted moments, and I know people were
Speaker 2: enjoying the NBA more just because of this show. And
Speaker 2: far too often you find a network television, even cable television,
Speaker 2: they will cancel these shows and not understand the impact
Speaker 2: of these shows. For once they've gotten it right now,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to change the field, even
Speaker 2: though it will be in a different studio.
Speaker 3: But no, it's not going to change the field. This
Speaker 3: is all about them.
Speaker 4: You you you live for Ernie's face of just I
Speaker 4: don't he sometimes he has this confusion discussed, but he like, yeah,
Speaker 4: his expressions are great. The chemistry that they have built
Speaker 4: up and the banter between them, it doesn't matter. They
Speaker 4: could literally be in one of those five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: backyards and it's still going to be a great show.
Speaker 3: And to your point, once again, it's those four.
Speaker 2: Now they may sub in some people on some occasions,
Speaker 2: like Chris Webber and others, it's not the same.
Speaker 4: It's not Kennis Parker's done it a few times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no disrespect. It doesn't have the same type of chemistry. Now,
Speaker 2: I wonder why this show has not grown beyond the
Speaker 2: show in the way that you have a Shannon Sharp
Speaker 2: and he would do stuff for not only his podcast,
Speaker 2: but it'll have nightcap with Chad o Cho Senko. I'm
Speaker 2: surprised these four haven't done something similar, given that they
Speaker 2: spend enough time together, they could probably do a podcast
Speaker 2: and monetize that in a way that these other sports
Speaker 2: figures have.
Speaker 4: I would imagine one of the key points in that
Speaker 4: is probably Shack because he does everything. He invests, he
Speaker 4: owns businesses, he's running around. He just did another rap song,
Speaker 4: you know, so he's out there doing several different things.
Speaker 4: And then you know Kenny. I don't know Kenny. He's
Speaker 4: probably got.
Speaker 2: Other stuff they have going on, but it seems like
Speaker 2: it would be low hanging fruit yea, and an easy
Speaker 2: thing to do, especially in this podcast world, the social
Speaker 2: media world, where you could look put it this way.
Speaker 2: I talk about this because I would love to hear
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley unscripted in an environment where he can say
Speaker 2: absolutely everything he wants. And I've seen it in person,
Speaker 2: but you don't get to see it long form in
Speaker 2: a video medium.
Speaker 3: I would love to see that.
Speaker 2: I would love to see Shaquille O'Neill doing the same thing.
Speaker 4: Well, doesn't Charles and Ernie have like an offshoot pocket.
Speaker 4: It's not as good though. It's kind of dry compared
Speaker 4: to right.
Speaker 2: It's kind of dry and it's kind of tanged, but
Speaker 2: when they're all together, it's never tanged.
Speaker 4: But this might be the catalyst that makes that happen.
Speaker 4: Because ESPN a lot of their programming. The numbers are declining,
Speaker 4: so now maybe they can figure out a way to
Speaker 4: make this work. All of them are familiar with the
Speaker 4: ESPN platform, so it's not a huge leap. So maybe
Speaker 4: this is how we get that to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna try not to be greedy, but I
Speaker 2: am glad that they're keeping inside the NBA is a
Speaker 2: part of the NBA. It definitely wasn't broke. You didn't
Speaker 2: need to fix it. Just keep it as is. People
Speaker 2: will find it and it will increase viewership for all involved.
Speaker 2: But speaking of viewership, when we come back, we have
Speaker 2: to talk about that thing which happened Friday night on Netflix,
Speaker 2: which was supposedly some sort of boxing match.
Speaker 3: And I have a real question for you.
Speaker 2: Since people are betting on it, people believe that it
Speaker 2: is legitimate competition. I don't believe it is, and I
Speaker 2: am by no means a conspiracy theorists, but I don't
Speaker 2: think this is legitimate competition, and I would love to
Speaker 2: get your thoughts on that. On the other side, I
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Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you were, but maybe you were
Speaker 2: one of the sixty million people who tuned in to
Speaker 2: see that WWE match between and I say WWE because
Speaker 2: Jake Paul is connected to the WWE. He is say
Speaker 2: personality for WWE that event on Friday between Jake Paul
Speaker 2: and Mike Tyson. I have been a boxing fan all
Speaker 2: my life. I've been a Mike Tyson fan since he
Speaker 2: came on the scene, and he won the World Heavyweight Championship,
Speaker 2: Lineal Heavyweight Championship back when he was twenty he is
Speaker 2: now fifty eight.
Speaker 3: He had no business being in the ring.
Speaker 2: And I said from the very beginning, I didn't want
Speaker 2: to remember him that way, and I thought that if
Speaker 2: he were to win, he'd have to beat Jake Paul
Speaker 2: within the first two rounds. Yep, it was not going
Speaker 2: to happen after that. Look, I don't care what type
Speaker 2: of shape you're in. You know, Father Time is undefeated
Speaker 2: for a reason, and this is coming on the heels up.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, this is coming on the heels of Evander
Speaker 2: Holyfield getting the breaks beat off him by Vietor Belfort,
Speaker 2: who was forty four and a non boxer. There was
Speaker 2: no way this is going to end well for Mike Tyson, right.
Speaker 2: But here is what really bothers me. We're told that
Speaker 2: this is legitimate competition, and yet it's not a sanctioned fight.
Speaker 2: They had eight rounds, two minutes each. They had fourteen
Speaker 2: ounce gloves instead of ten, which is nice. It's a
Speaker 2: little more padding. I didn't want anyone to die in
Speaker 2: the ring. But am I the only one who thinks
Speaker 2: that this is not legitimate competition and there's not some
Speaker 2: level of scripting to this?
Speaker 3: It would be impossible.
Speaker 4: I think that the only people who would think there's
Speaker 4: any kind of credence to this and that it's a
Speaker 4: real in any way are people who know nothing about boxing,
Speaker 4: because that's just not what when you're talking about boxers
Speaker 4: in their prime, they after they win in a match,
Speaker 4: they always call out the next guy, the guy that
Speaker 4: has proven himself in the ring, and the person that
Speaker 4: is the end all be all, the person that's difficult
Speaker 4: to beat, because that's how you continue to level up
Speaker 4: in the sport. UFC is the same way. You want
Speaker 4: to beat the person that nobody can beat. You don't
Speaker 4: want to beat the guy that's thirty years older than you.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, excuse me, thirty one.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's my bad, thirty one and definitely got his
Speaker 4: AARP card. You don't want to do that, that's no shade.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to my AARP discounts. They will come
Speaker 4: in one day. But my point is Jake doesn't take
Speaker 4: it seriously, so how as we can. There's no real
Speaker 4: boxing fan that will take it seriously. And look, I
Speaker 4: get it. If Jake doesn't want to come up through
Speaker 4: the ranks, if he doesn't want to do the fight
Speaker 4: where he has to fight, you know, go through the trenches,
Speaker 4: fight the no names, get those big wins and to
Speaker 4: finally get on a real ticket. There's still ways to
Speaker 4: do it. Now you've establish this yourself as this person
Speaker 4: who can get people paid. There are a ton of
Speaker 4: boxers right now who have put in the work that
Speaker 4: you could put in that ring to prove if you
Speaker 4: really have any kind of boxing legitimacy. But when you're
Speaker 4: boxing a guy who is well past his prime and
Speaker 4: has had a plethora of issues since then, and it's
Speaker 4: just not legitimate. And I don't think Jake personally takes
Speaker 4: it legitimately. I think that he presents it that way
Speaker 4: for the financial gain, but there's no way that this
Speaker 4: is a legitimate situation.
Speaker 3: I don't fault the business model.
Speaker 2: If you can get sixty million people to watch or
Speaker 2: on other instances, pay to see you stand in the
Speaker 2: ring with basketball players or washed up MMA folks. For
Speaker 2: you to be able to do that and parlay that
Speaker 2: into a multi I would say of eight figure deal
Speaker 2: with WWE, you're.
Speaker 3: Doing something right.
Speaker 2: As an entertainer and performer, I do not begrudge him right,
Speaker 2: but as a fan of sport and actual competition, I
Speaker 2: hate it because it's neither.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Last I heard, he's trying to call out Canelo Alvarez
Speaker 2: come on, and he would outweigh him by a good
Speaker 2: sixty pounds.
Speaker 3: He might as well call out Jackie Ray.
Speaker 2: At this point, I saw the themes where he was
Speaker 2: calling out Muhammad Ali. You know, it's just it, that's
Speaker 2: the thing with you're mocking the sport. You're not actually
Speaker 2: trying to be a serious entrant in the sport. Fight
Speaker 2: a real boxer who is this side of forty five
Speaker 2: a real boxer, And it may not give the type
Speaker 2: of pay per view, or it may because people be curious,
Speaker 2: can this guy actually fight? I don't think Tommy Fury,
Speaker 2: who beat Jake Paul, has fought since that.
Speaker 4: Fight, right, And I just again, you know, he presents
Speaker 4: himself like he's a boxer, Like he goes in and
Speaker 4: he puts in the work and he does all of
Speaker 4: these things. Okay, well then you still have to prove
Speaker 4: yourself in on the boxing stage. Look, I live in
Speaker 4: Long Beach. There's a gym down the street from my house.
Speaker 4: I would love to broker a fight between you and
Speaker 4: one person in that gym that no one has ever
Speaker 4: heard of. I guarantee you the outcome is different. And
Speaker 4: then that point, I feel like more people will be like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: that's he's not a real boxer. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: people will accept the truth about the situation. But right
Speaker 4: now people want to accept this fallacy because he's fighting
Speaker 4: people way past their prime. Anywhere any other situation we
Speaker 4: would call Jake Paul a bully, we would call a
Speaker 4: bully and a fraud. And I just again, I'm with you.
Speaker 4: I'm not hating his business model. I read that prior
Speaker 4: to this fight, Mike Tyson's networks was like ten million.
Speaker 4: I think it's at least double that, so it's a
Speaker 4: win win for everyone. But at the same time, I
Speaker 4: just don't I didn't watch it because I just don't
Speaker 4: enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I really enjoy the sport of boxing.
Speaker 4: I enjoy seeing people play defense and understand what their
Speaker 4: opponent is doing and really have this cadence and this
Speaker 4: song and dance that they're doing in the ring.
Speaker 3: So I'm never going to watch Jake Paul. I would
Speaker 3: never pay for Jake Paul.
Speaker 2: But since it was included in my subscription on Netflix,
Speaker 2: and it was one of those things that we call
Speaker 2: a talker, people were talking about it.
Speaker 3: To his benefit, he gets people talking. I watched it.
Speaker 2: I was in the hotel bar watching it on my
Speaker 2: phone via my Netflix subscription, and it was it was bad.
Speaker 2: It was a bad product, it was a bad fight.
Speaker 2: It was not entertaining, it was not enjoyable, it was
Speaker 2: not exciting.
Speaker 3: And I'm not an MMA fan.
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of that sport because I like
Speaker 2: to see more technical.
Speaker 3: Skill than what vitality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then just straight throughtality and I'm like you and
Speaker 2: I'm into the sweet science. I can't find a good
Speaker 2: boxing match more because boxing is so messed up as
Speaker 2: a sport. They can't get the different organizations together and
Speaker 2: stage the fights that we want to see like they
Speaker 2: did in the nineteen eighties. You'll never see another time
Speaker 2: in which you have a Sugar Ray Leonard fight everyone
Speaker 2: in his weight class who was the best of the
Speaker 2: time multiple times, fighting Roberto Duran twice, or Tommy Hearns
Speaker 2: three times, Marvin Hagler, will Frado Benitez.
Speaker 3: You'll never have that again.
Speaker 2: And to Dana White's credit, the best in MMA fight
Speaker 2: the best in MMA. To his detriment, his fighters are
Speaker 2: getting robbed. They're not getting out anything.
Speaker 4: And that was the whole That's what gave birth to
Speaker 4: Jake Paul because that is how he started. He said, Hey,
Speaker 4: if you want to get paid, come over here Now.
Speaker 4: When he initially said that, I was like, I can't
Speaker 4: in good conscious see these people get beat like this
Speaker 4: for peanuts.
Speaker 3: So yeah, do your thing, Jake Paul.
Speaker 4: But now he's become, in my opinion, a detriment to
Speaker 4: the sport because now he is really kind of taking
Speaker 4: a taken away to the nuances and the training and
Speaker 4: the commitment.
Speaker 3: And that's what people don't get.
Speaker 4: There's a commitment that you have to have to be
Speaker 4: great at this day in and day out. And so
Speaker 4: it's it's I wish we could find middle ground because
Speaker 4: he's not wrong in that Dana White is out here
Speaker 4: robbing people.
Speaker 2: I could accept exhibitions. Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Junior was
Speaker 2: an exhibition, okay, and it looked like we thought it would, right,
Speaker 2: but it still was a boxing match. This is a
Speaker 2: circus now. This is like you're looking. You're watching to
Speaker 2: see you the bearded lady. You're looking for the guy
Speaker 2: with three appendages or something. You're not looking for an
Speaker 2: actual sporting competition. And that's why I do begrudge Jake
Speaker 2: Paul what he's done to what I love about boxing. Now,
Speaker 2: let me just ask you this before we get out
Speaker 2: of here from a societal standpoint, we can't appreciate his
Speaker 2: business strategy. We can appreciate him calling out Dana White,
Speaker 2: which he has done, But is there any real negative
Speaker 2: effect beyond boxing as what we want boxing to be?
Speaker 3: Is there anything wrong with this?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's just a narrative in our
Speaker 4: society as a whole. You know, people think that they
Speaker 4: can just kind of skate by on certain things without
Speaker 4: putting in the actual work. And I think we've seen
Speaker 4: that across the board. I think one of the reasons
Speaker 4: people don't have as a journalist, I've seen this, People
Speaker 4: don't have the same faith and journalists anymore is because
Speaker 4: people grab a mic and they head out to the
Speaker 4: street and all of a sudden they feel like they're
Speaker 4: a journalist.
Speaker 3: Or they start a blog.
Speaker 4: They start a blog. Yeah, And so I think that's
Speaker 4: it's part of our society. It's literally the dumbing down
Speaker 4: of our society. And people think that just because they
Speaker 4: want to do something, the training and the dedication and
Speaker 4: the commitment and the passion is irrelevant.
Speaker 3: And so it's it's a problematic across the board.
Speaker 2: You are so right, because I can't tell you how
Speaker 2: many times people will approach me mm hmm, and either
Speaker 2: they may not like me or they don't know the
Speaker 2: dedication to the craft which is required and say I.
Speaker 3: Can do what you do now you can?
Speaker 2: Well, I tell them the same thing every single time.
Speaker 2: I can give you the email of my program director,
Speaker 2: or you can send your air check to me and
Speaker 2: I will send it to them.
Speaker 3: I'm not a hater. If you can do it better
Speaker 3: than me, I'll applaud you and I will show you
Speaker 3: a way to get there.
Speaker 2: But more times than not, they just want to talk
Speaker 2: stuff because they don't understand what is actually required in
Speaker 2: what we do. And I think you're spot on with that,
Speaker 2: and that's maybe the larger issue, because you have someone
Speaker 2: who wants to be taken seriously as a boxer, but
Speaker 2: doesn't want to have actual.
Speaker 4: Fights exactly, doesn't want to put in the work. It's terrible.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're coming up on Small Business Saturday, so why
Speaker 2: don't we just go ahead and.
Speaker 3: Start that early. Yeah, let's do that. Jack Ray is
Speaker 3: always good to see you too.
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Speaker 2: Forty and the number one movie this past weekend. Not surprised,
Speaker 2: but it was a very soft number one. It was
Speaker 2: Red one, the movie starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson and
Speaker 2: Chris Evans. They have to save Santa Claus, who had
Speaker 2: been kidnapped.
Speaker 3: I've seen the trailers.
Speaker 2: I have no desire to see this movie, even though
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Dwayne Johnson and Chris Evan. The
Speaker 2: whole idea of this movie just seems Netflix written all
Speaker 2: over it. It seems like it could have been perfect
Speaker 2: for streaming over the holidays, not that I would actually
Speaker 2: go to the theater to see it. And I say that,
Speaker 2: and I say Netflix because Chris Evans has done a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff on Netflix. Dwayne Johnson has done a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff on Netflix. Why this garnered a theatrical release,
Speaker 2: I'm just not sure.
Speaker 3: But it came in at number one.
Speaker 2: It did thirty two million domestically, did fifty one internationally,
Speaker 2: for a total of eighty three million dollars.
Speaker 5: Which is light for the Rock, Yes, that's light, and
Speaker 5: Chris Evans.
Speaker 3: That's light. Oh, I'll tell you how light it is.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that this movie's budget was two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars, your kid, that's like Avengers in
Speaker 2: game level budget, two hundred and fifty million, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't have the type of marketing campaign that any Avengers
Speaker 2: this movie would have two hundred There's no way in
Speaker 2: the world that you could have told me that this
Speaker 2: movie was ever going to break evening even. It's impossible
Speaker 2: for this movie, even if it had one hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five million this first weekend, which was not still
Speaker 2: was not going to break even. Two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: million about a movie that's you know, you're trying to
Speaker 2: save SATA.
Speaker 5: I actually thought that this was going to be released
Speaker 5: on Netflix. I didn't know it was coming to theaters,
Speaker 5: and so I missed the opportunity to get tickets because, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm interested in seeing it, but I'm thinking this has
Speaker 5: to be one of those things that Netflix put it
Speaker 5: out so it can be like in contention for for
Speaker 5: a Razzie, not for an award. That's this an award.
Speaker 3: Razzie is a war.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: I heard it wasn't that bad though.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's say it's not that bad.
Speaker 2: It's just not a movie which is probably going to
Speaker 2: have the type of support which justifies the two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollar price tag. And I don't know
Speaker 2: Dwayne Johnson is a leading man. I'll give him that,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if he can carry a blockbuster
Speaker 2: this size. We saw what he did with Black Adam
Speaker 2: and that wasn't bad. I didn't dislike that, but that
Speaker 2: also was dislike it. I did not dislike it, but
Speaker 2: my point was was yours Twalla where comparable budget.
Speaker 3: It did not make the money that they would have hoped.
Speaker 2: And just adding Chris Evans, who I think is a
Speaker 2: fine actor, but I don't know if he can move
Speaker 2: the meter by himself or as a part of a
Speaker 2: you know, a tandem, a buddy cop.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: The rock has now a history of big budget releases
Speaker 5: that he has been the lead in that have failed
Speaker 5: to move the needle at the box office. Because also
Speaker 5: that Jungle Crew, which I know it co starred what's
Speaker 5: her name, uh Krazanski's wife Emily Blunt, Emily Blunt, but
Speaker 5: that film was a big disappointment at the box office.
Speaker 2: It helps that these big movies are still being shown
Speaker 2: in theaters, but if they don't perform, well, it's not
Speaker 2: going to do a lot for theaters. And I mentioned
Speaker 2: that because it was released in more than four thousand theaters,
Speaker 2: mean that it's a very wide release. You can get
Speaker 2: as many as maybe forty four hundred and forty five
Speaker 2: hundred theaters, so it is out there. It's per screen
Speaker 2: average is just not all that impressive. And it's not
Speaker 2: gonna do any better next week, just because we're a
Speaker 2: week closer to Christmas or something. If if you can't
Speaker 2: bring it in this first week, it's not like it's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, they're gonna bring it in week two.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna buy a ticket sport, even if I can't
Speaker 5: see it. I support the Rock. Yeah, I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: support him on streaming, that's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He needs your money, jiujuala, give till it hurts. Here's
Speaker 6: something else coming in.
Speaker 2: Second is Venom The Last Dance, and we all know
Speaker 2: by just about every measure it's a horrible movie. But
Speaker 2: it's grossed four hundred and thirty six million dollars worldwide.
Speaker 2: It is making money for Sony. That means there's got
Speaker 2: to be like Venom the After Party, the Diddy Party
Speaker 2: or something. If this is the Last Dance, there has
Speaker 2: to be another Venom. Why Because it is a money maker.
Speaker 2: As much as I hate to say that, how many
Speaker 2: other movies made close to a half a billion dollars
Speaker 2: this year, a handful Deadpool, Wolverine.
Speaker 3: Inside Out to not many.
Speaker 2: So anytime a studio can point to a movie, damn sure,
Speaker 2: Red One is not gonna make a half a billion.
Speaker 2: So Venom the Last Dance obviously is turning a profit
Speaker 2: and has been profitable for Sony Pictures.
Speaker 5: It is a hit by all standards, especially when you
Speaker 5: consider nothing is coming out next week or the week
Speaker 5: after or the week after that that is going to
Speaker 5: take this film out of the top five, which mean
Speaker 5: you have to.
Speaker 2: Be number one, right, which means theaters are not going
Speaker 2: to be as aggressive in dropping it because they need
Speaker 2: something to put in its place. And if this movie
Speaker 2: is still doing business, there's no need to move it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you keep it where it is.
Speaker 2: And let me just amend what I was saying before
Speaker 2: I said that people were tired of bad superhero movies.
Speaker 3: It's not the genre itself.
Speaker 2: Here's an example of a bad superhero movie and it's
Speaker 2: still doing better than ninety five percent of the other
Speaker 2: movies from other genres.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. Yeah, for all the people.
Speaker 2: Who are supposedly tired of the genre, well y'all are
Speaker 2: going to see Venom. Y'all went to see Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 2: It's what people are actually going to see. So for
Speaker 2: all the criticisms, the actions are not meeting the criticism.
Speaker 3: Now, what were you going to say about Dwayne Johnson, Mark?
Speaker 6: I hadn't planned on saying anything, but I'm glad to
Speaker 6: know you're the one person on earth who liked Black Adham.
Speaker 6: I could barely make it through that. I really two people.
Speaker 6: It was a cowpie. You're both overruled. No, no, No, Steamer, Steamer.
Speaker 2: I actually wanted to see a sequel to that with
Speaker 2: Henry Cavell, more so than anything named Shazam.
Speaker 6: I'll watch Henry cavill as Superman any day. I think
Speaker 6: it was the worst decision DC's made to get rid
Speaker 6: of him and Superman. He was a really good Superman
Speaker 6: in some mediocre movies.
Speaker 2: But I understand why they did because he's going to
Speaker 2: age out of the role long term. If you're trying
Speaker 2: to have a franchise going forward, it wasn't going to
Speaker 2: be with Henry Cavell because he just wouldn't fit the role.
Speaker 6: Oh, he had a few more years left. Look at
Speaker 6: how old George Reeves looked and he is the.
Speaker 7: Archetype trying to dig George Reeves up out of his grave. There,
Speaker 7: both of you leave George Reeves alone, taking a douce
Speaker 7: on George Reeves like that?
Speaker 2: How dare you saying for Adam West is going to
Speaker 2: be the next Batman?
Speaker 6: I'll get right out of this booth and kill both
Speaker 6: of you on the spot.
Speaker 5: How mean?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: How did George Reeves can fit but Adam West wouldn't fit?
Speaker 3: Adam West was magnificent. He was. He's easily one of
Speaker 3: the best batman.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's cast him alongside Colin Ferrell.
Speaker 3: What's the point of this, would you say? George Reeves?
Speaker 6: He was a great superman if you probably haven't even
Speaker 6: seen any of those shows, have you?
Speaker 3: Yes? I have.
Speaker 6: They've heard magnificent, which is a round back of the day. Well,
Speaker 6: they were before as old as you are. Those shows
Speaker 6: are before both our times. But there's no but they
Speaker 6: were on TV all the time. They're great shows. With
Speaker 6: him laying on the table, you got.
Speaker 3: It, jumping out the window onto a mattress.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was a midday filler when you were ditching school.
Speaker 3: Yes, Mark, you couldn't avoid them.
Speaker 6: I want both of you to know that I forgive
Speaker 6: you for your found in offensive ignorance. Watch that episode
Speaker 6: of the George Reefs Superman where he takes the blind
Speaker 6: girl flying, and if you still aren't on board, are.
Speaker 3: You buried both alive?
Speaker 6: Are you really trying to fight for a George Yes survival? Absolutely,
Speaker 6: even more so than for Kung George Reeves in a
Speaker 6: Zack Snyder movie.
Speaker 3: How about that? Is that what you're gunning for, James
Speaker 3: gun I'm not gonna know. There's dapples and oranges different,
Speaker 3: but that's the whole point. That's why we're saying that
Speaker 3: Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2: They had to move on from Henry Cavill because it
Speaker 2: didn't fit the vision of James gun And also, a
Speaker 2: fifty year old Superman in a contemporary movie sense, unless
Speaker 2: you're talking about a specific comic run, having to do
Speaker 2: with an older Superman doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: And that's only good for one movie, not four.
Speaker 6: I think he had some more enemy and I'm skeptical
Speaker 6: of this new vision, but James Gunn has some nerd creds,
Speaker 6: so let's see what he comes up with. You'll probably
Speaker 6: be wrong about that too negatory. It's Late with Mokelly.
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Speaker 2: know that cuffing season is here? And we're gonna let
Speaker 2: you know how you can use astrology to spice up
Speaker 2: your sex life.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's get to it. What is cuffing season.
Speaker 2: It's the autumnal urge to enter into a more serious
Speaker 2: or defined relationship in anticipation of a long winner to come.
Speaker 2: Cuffing refers to the idea the commitment between two people
Speaker 2: as akin to the pair of handcuffs themselves together, which
Speaker 2: could be kinky or horrifying, depending on your interpretation. And
Speaker 2: Cuffing season lasts from late fall to early spring, equinox
Speaker 2: to equinox. If you're paying attention, here we go aries
Speaker 2: the cold Plunge, ruled by warmonger mars Aries. Folk like
Speaker 2: their sex and their conflict hot and often, but it
Speaker 2: turns out cold plunging paves the way to intensified intimacy.
Speaker 2: If you're not ready to invest in a full plunge system,
Speaker 2: you can ice down your bathtub as some kind of
Speaker 2: frigid foreplay.
Speaker 3: Check that out.
Speaker 2: Experts recommend couples hold hands, sink their breath, and stare
Speaker 2: into each other's eyes while in the chill before warming
Speaker 2: up and getting down with the dirty pumping uglies.
Speaker 3: Taurus, I can't see this on a radio to walla,
Speaker 3: Why do you hand this? I can't talk about doggy anything?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 5: That's Taurus. That's that's that's the stop.
Speaker 2: Okay, seals. How far I can go? How deep with
Speaker 2: this I can go? How deep as the fixed Earth sign?
Speaker 2: Get your mind out of the gutter?
Speaker 3: Taurus.
Speaker 2: Folk are inclined towards intimacy that feels like wild abandoned
Speaker 2: with minimal effort. There's no one right way to do it.
Speaker 2: As long as the giver. You gotta be careful. That
Speaker 2: gotta be very very gre horse, you know. Just think
Speaker 2: of your favorite pooch and go from there. Gemini up close, Okay, I.
Speaker 3: Can't read this. We gotta think called the FCC. I
Speaker 3: can't why you give that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Goodwell, I can't talk about different positions on the cuffing season.
Speaker 2: It is cuffing season, but you know, reverse count never mind?
Speaker 3: What never mind?
Speaker 6: As a Gemini, I require you to read my horoscope.
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't.
Speaker 6: Well, you can talk around it, you can use euphemisms.
Speaker 6: I'll help you out.
Speaker 2: No, we're just gonna go give me, give me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a different horse school like that. We're
Speaker 2: gonna change gears. Okay, here's the weekly horoscope from Parade Magazine.
Speaker 2: What we were on Gemini, It's gonna go from one
Speaker 2: extreme to the other. Gemini seeks meaningful dialogue this week.
Speaker 2: They want to skip the small talk and dive in
Speaker 2: the philosophical discussion topics. Their intensity may scare off some, However,
Speaker 2: their approach will intellectually inspire those willing to dive deep.
Speaker 2: Now you can make your own you know, sexual innuendo
Speaker 2: out of that if you like.
Speaker 6: Oh no, it's a long way from where you started to
Speaker 6: Parade Magazine. Cancer here Goo Stefan. Cancer is taking intimacy seriously.
Speaker 6: This week, Pluto enters their Transformation sector, highlighting the themes
Speaker 6: of interdependence. To spiritually evolve, they must lean on others
Speaker 6: and allow others to lean on them. There's no growth
Speaker 6: in going it alone any longer, so find yourself a woman.
Speaker 5: So they call that the transformation sector in cancer world.
Speaker 2: What are you trying to say, twelve No, I mean
Speaker 2: they're entering the transformation sector. Leo this week challenges Leo
Speaker 2: to wear their heart on their sleeve. The cool guy
Speaker 2: act is up. They must let love in to grow
Speaker 2: and show how much they care deep down. Being vulnerable
Speaker 2: allows others to showcase their genuine commitment and dedication to connection. Virgo,
Speaker 2: y'all are taking an honest look at burnout this week,
Speaker 2: as Pluto enters their Responsibility City sector.
Speaker 5: What is this like a grid? The Responsibility sector?
Speaker 2: Yes, these zoned like a city, working placesility, commercial of
Speaker 2: their of their mind like you know how they compartmentalize
Speaker 2: their thoughts and feelings and emotions.
Speaker 5: The responsibility sector must come.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: That sounds way unsexy.
Speaker 2: But as Pluto enters their Responsibility sector, it must change
Speaker 2: their approach to to do lists, agendas, and workload. They
Speaker 2: are only one person. Their productivity will be redefined. Libra,
Speaker 2: there's inspiration to connect with. This week, Pluto enters their
Speaker 2: romantic sector, making their innermost desires undeniable. Spiritual evolution comes
Speaker 2: from allowing themselves to want who and what they desire.
Speaker 2: Giving in and prioritizing their happiness is vital. Scorpio. Twala
Speaker 2: has a birthday coming up, Scorpio.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: This week is major as Pluto enter Aquarius. Scorpio, which
Speaker 2: is ruled by Pluto, is deeply impacted. Their psychological sector
Speaker 2: is hit, pushing them to address their inner well being.
Speaker 2: To progress, they must tend to their roots and home life, Sagittarius.
Speaker 2: That's me well, We Sagittarians are feeling inspired to make
Speaker 2: shifts in our social lives this week. As Pluto enters
Speaker 2: our intellectual sector, we can no longer deny our souls needs.
Speaker 2: What we genuinely think and feel must be honored to
Speaker 2: sustain friendships and connections. Capricorn, this week brings relief to you.
Speaker 2: Pluto exits their sign, entering Aquarius. While change will still
Speaker 2: be necessary regarding their practical outlooks and actions, They've been
Speaker 2: waiting for this moment. With all of their recent lessons completed,
Speaker 2: Capricorn is ready to evolve and choose themselves. And lastly
Speaker 2: or semi lastly is Aquarius. This week is major for
Speaker 2: Aquarians as Pluto enters their sign, the planet of transformation,
Speaker 2: will push them to con front the blockages of being
Speaker 2: authentic to themselves.
Speaker 3: It's not like constipation. Their path is ripe with potential.
Speaker 2: However, they must take agency and responsibility and lastly, Pisces.
Speaker 2: This week Pluto enters Pisces subconscious sphere of influence. It's
Speaker 2: time for them to come to terms with their hidden
Speaker 2: emotions and briefs. To spiritually evolve, they will need to
Speaker 2: examine what has been repressed.
Speaker 3: None of that makes any sense. I don't know what
Speaker 3: any of that means.
Speaker 5: I can just tell you that Scorpio's cuffing season with
Speaker 5: definitely don't do it. Cut off the don't do it? Lord,
Speaker 5: have mercy. I will try this, though.
Speaker 3: Well you're gonna do like take pictures and post it
Speaker 3: on the internet.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, you go to jail for posting
Speaker 5: something like ooh ooh, at least not without a parental
Speaker 5: guidance warning. This is, this is, this is. Why would
Speaker 5: you ever?
Speaker 6: Can?
Speaker 3: Never mind? I don't want to ask anymore. I don't
Speaker 3: want to know anymore. I don't want to know.
Speaker 2: Blindfolded okay, yeah, oh blindfolded. Yeah, that's never mind, can't.
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