Speaker 1: Oh bet that trigger Warrener. This podcast may include explicit
Speaker 1: content that will take you out of your comfort zone
Speaker 1: and make you question reality. Listeners, discretion is advised. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 1: the break during October while we ventured into some throwbacks
Speaker 1: for the Halloween special. But we're back to business today
Speaker 1: and we will before the rest of the month. We're
Speaker 1: going to finish our Program to Kill series and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a few little extra episodes out there.
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited to jump back into Program to Kill.
Speaker 1: This is Program to Kill Part Forward. And before we
Speaker 1: jump right in, I have a few things that I
Speaker 1: need to do, and one of those things is a
Speaker 1: shout out. If you all were wondering how you could
Speaker 1: get a hold of me to like ask me a
Speaker 1: question or you know, just say hello and I will
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Speaker 1: an email from there, So step by step, go to
Speaker 1: my profile, go to my bio. It will say contact,
Speaker 1: and then you hit contact and then you go over
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Speaker 1: you leave your name, your email address, and a message
Speaker 1: and it goes straight to my email and I will
Speaker 1: respond to you or shout you out or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I get so many messages on Instagram and there are
Speaker 1: so many comments that come through on Spotify what have you.
Speaker 1: I'd need a personal fucking assistant to get back to
Speaker 1: all the comments and shit. So that's the best way
Speaker 1: to do it. And someone's smart enough to figure this out. Yep,
Speaker 1: and here we go, says the name is Trey Dog.
Speaker 1: Okay love It says, hello, beautiful. I've been listening to
Speaker 1: you for a while now, and I absolutely love your
Speaker 1: episodes since the very beginning. I'm fucking honored. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you saw the new Netflix about the menindas boys, and
Speaker 1: I look back to see if you did an episode
Speaker 1: about them, but I did not see one. Uh covered
Speaker 1: it in I think the Pedaphocracy series. Actually, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure with your fire and skills, you can do
Speaker 1: a fire episode and it's not all that it's cracked
Speaker 1: up to be as they put it on TV. If
Speaker 1: you know what the peach is saying, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: can dig up some pretty good dirt on an episode
Speaker 1: about that, well, Tray fucking thank you so much, brother,
Speaker 1: because I did mention it in the Program to Kill
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I did mention it in the Pedaphocracy that
Speaker 1: they killed their fucking parents because they were fucking raping
Speaker 1: on them. And I haven't watched it because I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have a bad day if I watch it.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's some stuff in there. I'm sure
Speaker 1: they put a ton of shit in there that's gonna
Speaker 1: fucking not be the truth about what really happened. It's
Speaker 1: gonna piss me off, it's gonna make me have a
Speaker 1: bad day. But what I will say is my sister
Speaker 1: watched it, and as far as I can tell from her,
Speaker 1: they're making it out to be like they weren't really
Speaker 1: raped on by their parents. Like let me just let's
Speaker 1: say this is true, and that's what they're trying to
Speaker 1: make it out to be. How come any type of
Speaker 1: shamoo bitch with blue hair fucking comes out of the
Speaker 1: woodwork saying that they were raped and everybody's just like stop,
Speaker 1: stops their life to be like Oh my god, she
Speaker 1: was raped, she was molested. All this crazy shit happened
Speaker 1: to her, And we should all stop our fucking lives
Speaker 1: because this bitch with blue hair. Fucking first off, who's
Speaker 1: raping you? Who the fuck is raping you? But anyways,
Speaker 1: we all stop our lives for somebody who come out
Speaker 1: of the woodwork and say they were raped. These two
Speaker 1: kids literally murdered their parents because they were raping on
Speaker 1: them so much they couldn't take it anymore. They snapped,
Speaker 1: they had a mental breakdown. They fucking murdered the shit
Speaker 1: out of their parents, fucking blew their fucking faces off
Speaker 1: of their parents. And I talked about it in comparison
Speaker 1: to Lizzie Borden because she also was getting raped by
Speaker 1: her father and fucking acts the face off of him.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why they're trying to make it
Speaker 1: out out to be that they were making it up
Speaker 1: that they were getting raped by their parents in order
Speaker 1: to have some type of like defense to get off
Speaker 1: on the crime. Like why would they make that up? Sure,
Speaker 1: they don't want to go to jail, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, this is the realist shit. These really wealthy
Speaker 1: influential people raping on their kids. Their kids snap, they
Speaker 1: can't take it anymore, and they fucking blow their parents'
Speaker 1: faces off. It seems logical to me, but I guess
Speaker 1: I'm in the minority because they're trying to make it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't like to watch these HBO
Speaker 1: and Netflix specials because like, am already I rate. I'm
Speaker 1: already pissed the fuck off, Trey, you need to go back.
Speaker 1: I don't remember which segment of the Pedaphocracy I put
Speaker 1: that in, but it's one through four, you know, fucking
Speaker 1: it's one of them. Now I have another shout out,
Speaker 1: let me get to it. Someone that I work with
Speaker 1: in the podcast community says, by the way, my mom
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Speaker 1: a long time. She says, how funny and great you
Speaker 1: are all the time. Her name is Cindy, and fucking Cindy. Hello,
Speaker 1: I love you too. I think you're fucking awesome as well.
Speaker 1: Anybody who subscribes to my Patreon and things I'm great,
Speaker 1: fucking you get a massive shout out. Love you, love you,
Speaker 1: love you long time and so again. If you want
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Speaker 1: my link tree, it'll go straight to my email and
Speaker 1: I'll read it on the next episode that I record.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how long it's gonna take me to
Speaker 1: put this out in comparison to when I got the message,
Speaker 1: but you know, if you are subscribed and listening to
Speaker 1: all the episodes, you'll hear it. You'll hear it, right Trey, Cindy,
Speaker 1: I got you. I fucking I got you. Love you guys.
Speaker 1: So today is Programmed to Kill, part four, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start us off with a little quote as usual,
Speaker 1: here we go. Quote. It's more of a shadow than
Speaker 1: anything else. You know, it's a human being, but yet
Speaker 1: you can't accept it, the killing itself. It's like, say
Speaker 1: you're walking down the road. Half of me will go
Speaker 1: this way and the other half goes that way. The
Speaker 1: right hand side didn't know what the left hand side
Speaker 1: was going to do. End quote. That was Henry Lee
Speaker 1: Lucas describing how he perceived his victims before killing them.
Speaker 1: Interesting how he mentions the left hand path and the
Speaker 1: right hand path. And so this is where we're gonna
Speaker 1: get started today. I'm if you were wondering, not really
Speaker 1: wearing any makeup except for some eyebrows. Trying this whole
Speaker 1: like loving myself thing and accepting who I am. I
Speaker 1: don't know how well it's going, though, Love yourself or
Speaker 1: nobody will. Right. All right, folks, we're about to get
Speaker 1: into some serious biscuits and gravy in today's episode. So
Speaker 1: hold onto your hats, okay, and keep your questions till
Speaker 1: the end. Maybe I'll answer them for you. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Most of you out there are probably familiar with what
Speaker 1: is considered the classic serial killer profile. This was a
Speaker 1: notion first put forth by the FBI, which coined the
Speaker 1: term serial killer and pioneered the concept of profiling in
Speaker 1: an attempt to understand the phenomenon of mass murder, like
Speaker 1: fucking criminal minds or some shit which I love, By
Speaker 1: the way, I had the biggest crush on Spencer Reed
Speaker 1: in that show, Like, Oh, my fucking God, with your smart, fucking, sexy,
Speaker 1: fucking ugh, I would tear that ass up anyways. It
Speaker 1: appears to be the case, though, that the concept of
Speaker 1: the serial killer profile was put forth largely to misinform
Speaker 1: the public, which seems to be the thing, right. They
Speaker 1: created the illusion of the serial killer, like in the
Speaker 1: case of Henry Lee Lucas. Few, if any, of the
Speaker 1: elements of the serial killer profile apply to Henry Lee
Speaker 1: Lucas and so many others. But yet we're supposed to believe,
Speaker 1: as he was murdering people's asses, that he fits the
Speaker 1: serial killer profile. For instance, okay, serial killers are said
Speaker 1: to act alone, driven to do so only by their
Speaker 1: own private demons like Dexter and the Dark Passenger. Serial
Speaker 1: Killers are also supposed to be so far removed from
Speaker 1: ordinary human behavior right that they would never share their
Speaker 1: private passions with other people. But in Henry's case, this
Speaker 1: is an obvious false notion. It has been officially acknowledged
Speaker 1: that Lucas worked with not just one, but at times
Speaker 1: as many as three accomplices. As I have mentioned previously,
Speaker 1: Otis Tool's pre teen niece and nephew were frequently brought
Speaker 1: along to witness and at times participate in the crimes
Speaker 1: of Henry and Otis, So that fucking bit of the
Speaker 1: profile is totally inaccurate. And it is also claimed that
Speaker 1: serial killers target a particular type of victim, similar in age, gender, race, hairstyle, attractiveness,
Speaker 1: and other physical attributes. Again, in Henry's case, this sim
Speaker 1: does not fit the known facts. Actually, Henry's victims had
Speaker 1: very little, if anything in common with one another. The
Speaker 1: victims' ages ranged from children to the elderly. Both genders
Speaker 1: and races were also well represented. And fucking nothing fit
Speaker 1: the profile. And as Lucas himself once stated, quote there's
Speaker 1: been a mixed breed of people as far as the
Speaker 1: killings themselves end quote and fucking that is the truest
Speaker 1: statement of the year, because this does not fit any
Speaker 1: type of profile. And of course, it is also claimed
Speaker 1: that serial killers follow a readily identifiable modus operandi, with
Speaker 1: the means of obtaining their victims and the trajectory of
Speaker 1: the crime following a well defined pattern. Again, that was
Speaker 1: clearly not the case with Henry Lee Lucas, whose victims
Speaker 1: were obtained in a variety of ways and who inflicted
Speaker 1: death by a variety of means, including bludgeoning, stabbing, strangulation, shooting,
Speaker 1: and suffocation. Okay, so here's this. Some were killed in
Speaker 1: their homes while others were abducted and taken to remote locations.
Speaker 1: Some were sexually abused both before and after death, while
Speaker 1: others were not. Some were cannibalized, some were left on
Speaker 1: display for maximum impact. Upon their discovery, while others were
Speaker 1: left so as to not be discovered at all. So obviously,
Speaker 1: Henry does not fit the fucking profile of a serial
Speaker 1: killer in this way, like at all. I mean in
Speaker 1: other ways as well. But the point is, Henry Lee
Speaker 1: did not even come close to matching the profile of
Speaker 1: what he was supposed to be. And strangely, an probably
Speaker 1: the most remarkable aspect of the Henry Lee Lucas story
Speaker 1: is that it's not actually remarkable at all. So in
Speaker 1: reviewing the case histories of more than two dozen other
Speaker 1: alleged serial killers, it becomes readily apparent that few, if any,
Speaker 1: fit the stupid fucking profile. Okay, The victims of Rascindas Ramirez,
Speaker 1: for instance, raged in age from twenty one to eighty
Speaker 1: eight years old, with a mix of both males and females.
Speaker 1: The cause of death varied as well, with most being bludgeoned,
Speaker 1: though one was shot in the head, another stabbed, and
Speaker 1: yet another had an ice pig buried in their head.
Speaker 1: But I will say though almost all of the weapons
Speaker 1: used for inflicting death by both Lucas and Ramirez had
Speaker 1: one thing in common. They are what are termed quote
Speaker 1: weapons of opportunity. End quote. Now basically, they are weapons
Speaker 1: that were acquired at the crime scene immediately before the
Speaker 1: murders were committed, which, by the way, actually precisely mirrors
Speaker 1: the means by which the CIA has historically taught its
Speaker 1: assassins to kill coincidence, I think not and get this shit.
Speaker 1: A CIA training manual entitled A Study of Assassination advises
Speaker 1: the would be killer to do quote the simplest local
Speaker 1: tools are often the most efficient means of assassination. A hammer, axe, wrench, screwdriver,
Speaker 1: fire poker, kitchen knife, lamp stand, or anything hard, heavy
Speaker 1: and handy will suffice. All such improvised weapons have the
Speaker 1: important advantage of availability and apparent innocence. The assassin may
Speaker 1: accidentally be searched before the act and should not carry
Speaker 1: an incriminating device if any sort of lethal weapon can
Speaker 1: be improvised at or near the site. End quote. Ah,
Speaker 1: ain't that fucking nice. I'm glad there are so thorough
Speaker 1: fucking dicks. This is how the fucking they get away
Speaker 1: with this shit. Anyways, this advice has been taken to
Speaker 1: heart by a good number of serial killers quote unquote.
Speaker 1: The Mafia assassination service known as Murder Incorporated. Yes, this
Speaker 1: is a real fucking thing. The brainchild of the Lanski
Speaker 1: Luciano Syndicate, which had extensive connections to US intelligence agencies,
Speaker 1: had a remarkably similar philosophy. Just by the way, but
Speaker 1: so Henry Lee recounts in the Hand of Death book
Speaker 1: that his training by the Hand of Death cult followed
Speaker 1: the same time honored tradition. Of course, if you ask
Speaker 1: the FBI, they will assure you that satanic cults and
Speaker 1: satanic crime do not exist in modern day America. But
Speaker 1: it's important to remember that this is the very same
Speaker 1: FBI that, during the reign of Murder Incorporated and for
Speaker 1: several decades thereafter, refused to acknowledge the existence of organized
Speaker 1: crime in America. So go fucking figure. It's also the
Speaker 1: same FBI that for years years ignor Lord and denied
Speaker 1: the resurgence of the Glu Klux Klan in the early
Speaker 1: part of the twentieth century. The FBI has a long
Speaker 1: fucking history of denying the existence of the most notfarious
Speaker 1: groups devoted to terrorizing our own American society. But so anyways,
Speaker 1: other than utilizing weapons of opportunity, the most common means
Speaker 1: by which professional assassins carry out their contracts is with
Speaker 1: a small caliber bullet fired at point blank range to
Speaker 1: the head, typically either a twenty two or a twenty
Speaker 1: five caliber handgun. In afflicting such a wound is quick, efficient,
Speaker 1: relatively quiet, reasonably clean, and most importantly, highly lethal. Contrary
Speaker 1: to conventional wisdom, a small caliber round to the head
Speaker 1: is more often fatal than a larger caliber bullet because
Speaker 1: the smaller projectile has enough velocity to make the initial
Speaker 1: penetration into the dense skull bones, but not enough to
Speaker 1: make an exit wound. Fucking brilliant, right, because once inside
Speaker 1: the fucking brain cavity, the slug will tend to ricochet
Speaker 1: around the curved inner bone surfaces, causing considerable damage to
Speaker 1: the brain in the process, fucking turns your brains into
Speaker 1: spaghetti essentially, right now. A larger caliber round, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, is much more likely to penetrate clean through
Speaker 1: the fucking skull, making a huge, fucking JFK mess all
Speaker 1: over the place. Right, So, the smaller gun, when fired
Speaker 1: from very close range, is a much more efficient killing device.
Speaker 1: These guns are also very easy to conceal and are
Speaker 1: the easy these weapons to silence, and there is another
Speaker 1: reason that these are often the weapons of choice for
Speaker 1: contract hits. Smaller caliber slugs, particularly those from a twenty
Speaker 1: two caliber weapon, are virtually impossible to trace or to
Speaker 1: match up to any particular gun. Literally millions of twenty
Speaker 1: two caliber weapons are in homes all across the country,
Speaker 1: and it is by far the most popular mass produced
Speaker 1: ammunition on the market, and a twenty two caliber bullet
Speaker 1: that has punched through the skull and careemed around the
Speaker 1: skull cavity is virtually guaranteed to deform to such an
Speaker 1: extent that a ballistics match will be fucking impossible. Now,
Speaker 1: by the way, just saying, do not take this shit
Speaker 1: as some kind of advice. I feel like you all
Speaker 1: are very smart people, but still, I just have to
Speaker 1: say this is purely informational and not motivational. You feel me,
Speaker 1: but so. Matching a flatten slug that's been literally dug
Speaker 1: out of a victim's head to a particular gun is
Speaker 1: like finding the proverbial needle in the shit stack. And
Speaker 1: for this reason, a smaller caliber contact wound to the head,
Speaker 1: usually to the side of the head, has long been
Speaker 1: the mark of a professional assassin, and isn't it weird
Speaker 1: that the vast majority of the victims of certain serial
Speaker 1: killers were killed either by means of a weapon of
Speaker 1: opportunity or they were shot in the head with a
Speaker 1: small caliber weapon execution style. Fucking isn't that interesting, And
Speaker 1: more often than not, there is no specific type of
Speaker 1: victim that is targeted, nor is there a pattern as
Speaker 1: to how the killings are carried out. Take, for example,
Speaker 1: another serial killing, Ramirez, Los Angeles famous night Stalker and dude,
Speaker 1: hear me out, okay, because I arny, you know what
Speaker 1: you're gonna say. Just listen, dude. Most of the night
Speaker 1: Stalker victims were killed how fucking a small caliber handgun
Speaker 1: to the left side of the head while they slept.
Speaker 1: Both a twenty two and twenty five caliber weapon was used.
Speaker 1: The remaining victims were what fucking bludgeoned or stabbed to
Speaker 1: death with household items including a hammer and a lamp
Speaker 1: and a vase. Don't get me wrong, some of the
Speaker 1: victims were mutilated, right, We can't leave that out to
Speaker 1: varying degrees, including two were hacked up with machetes. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't stop there because a couple of them were
Speaker 1: subjected to electrocute shin nah. So their ages didn't matter either.
Speaker 1: They ranged from young adults to eighty years old, with
Speaker 1: both men and women well represented, and there was no
Speaker 1: discrimination shown as to the race ethnicity, none of that
Speaker 1: shit of the victims either, So obviously Richard fucking er
Speaker 1: mir as mister knight stalker shitthead bitch content was the
Speaker 1: perfect example of someone who was programmed to kill following
Speaker 1: the CIA fucking handout to the letter and in other
Speaker 1: fucking news in what were dubbed at the Sunset Strip
Speaker 1: Murders also in Los Angeles, the victims were also dispatched
Speaker 1: with a twenty five caliber contact wind to the head,
Speaker 1: except for one victim who was shot in the chest
Speaker 1: and sliced open. But besides that, sorry fuck, they all
Speaker 1: got headshots, oh my bad, and two of them were
Speaker 1: also beheaded, and only one of the dead people who
Speaker 1: had likely been an accomplice, was male, the rest females
Speaker 1: of various ethnicities. But it doesn't stop there. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Sunset Strip murders, y'all need to fucking
Speaker 1: listen to my Laurel Canyon shit. Okay, okay, but anyways,
Speaker 1: onto the next fucking asshole, fucking Herb Mullin Okay from
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz is sure to have been, if he was
Speaker 1: actually guilty of the murders attributed to him, the most
Speaker 1: creative serial killer in the history of modern crime. The
Speaker 1: seemingly random set of crimes credited to Herbie Stans is
Speaker 1: probably the most ludicrous use of the term serial killer
Speaker 1: on a record. So let's take a look, shall we.
Speaker 1: The first victim was a homeless man beaten to death
Speaker 1: with a baseball bat for no apparent reason on a
Speaker 1: lonely stretcher road. The next was a girl who was
Speaker 1: repeatedly stabbed, then sliced open, mutilated, and generally made a
Speaker 1: mess of. The next five victims were all killed in
Speaker 1: a single night at two different residences, both occupied by
Speaker 1: known drug traffickers and their families. In one house, all
Speaker 1: three victimvictims, two of whom were children, were shot once
Speaker 1: in the head with a twenty two caliber weapon and
Speaker 1: then stabbed a few times for good measure. At the
Speaker 1: other house, a slightly less professional job was done. The
Speaker 1: two victims at that address, who were close friends of
Speaker 1: the victims at the other crime scene just by the way,
Speaker 1: were shot multiple times with a twenty two caliber weapon
Speaker 1: in various parts of the body and then stabbed repeatedly. Now,
Speaker 1: the next four victims were a group of teenage boys
Speaker 1: on a camping trip who were each shot once in
Speaker 1: the head and multiple times in the body. But interestingly enough,
Speaker 1: with this one, the boys literally had their own twenty
Speaker 1: two caliber rifle within arm's reach of where they were killed.
Speaker 1: Weapon of opportunity. Who knows, but they say all four
Speaker 1: boys were allegedly killed by a lone assailant before they
Speaker 1: could reach for the gun, despite the fact that Mullen
Speaker 1: would have had to reload his six shot twenty two
Speaker 1: caliber automatic at least once to complete the slaughter. But
Speaker 1: who cares about details like that, not our justice system.
Speaker 1: But so, following the mass execution of the teenagers, Mullen,
Speaker 1: I guess allegedly decided to test his skills as a sniper,
Speaker 1: picking off an ex boxer as they strolled across his
Speaker 1: front yard. But speaking of that, in nearby Sonny, Sacramento, California,
Speaker 1: Richard Chase got his sniper killing out of the way
Speaker 1: right off the bat. His first victim was dropped in
Speaker 1: front of his home with a twenty two round fired
Speaker 1: from a parked car just the way Mullen had allegedly
Speaker 1: done it. The rest of the Sacramento victims were killed
Speaker 1: with a twenty two caliber contact wound to the left
Speaker 1: side of the head, sometimes followed by a second shot.
Speaker 1: Some were then mutilated. Ages ranged from twenty months old
Speaker 1: too fifty one years old, with both males and females
Speaker 1: being represented. But on with the murder tour. Here in Wendy, Chicago,
Speaker 1: the Ripper crew killed a string of women, both black
Speaker 1: and white, by a variety of means, before then adding
Speaker 1: something new to this serial killer repertoire, a gang style
Speaker 1: drive by shooting of known drug dealers. It's always good
Speaker 1: practice for any aspiring serial killer to throw at least
Speaker 1: one obvious drug hit into the mix, throw them off
Speaker 1: the trail. Right. This is in case, you know, people
Speaker 1: start catching on to the whole serial killers are not
Speaker 1: necessarily random acts of violence thing. You know, they leave
Speaker 1: that out of the serial killer profile and documentaries. But
Speaker 1: just as David McGowan, oh wait, you can't. He's fucking dead,
Speaker 1: probably for putting all these pieces together. But so let's
Speaker 1: continue on, right, Consider, for example, the case of Charles
Speaker 1: can't pronounce his last name, it's like ng or something
Speaker 1: like that, and Leonard Lake, who I have mentioned before.
Speaker 1: At least a few of their known victims were deeply
Speaker 1: involved in drug trafficking. Other than that, the victims had
Speaker 1: very very little in common. Now excavated from the pair's
Speaker 1: compound where the remains of seven men, five women, and
Speaker 1: two little babies, though there were probably way more more
Speaker 1: undiscovered victims, how the pair's victims were killed was impossible
Speaker 1: to determine, which was also true for the cases of
Speaker 1: the other killers who fall into the Collector's category, including
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Bob Burdella, Gary Heidnik, and
Speaker 1: Herb Baumeister. In all these cases, all that remained of
Speaker 1: the unfortunate victims were various bones and in some cases genitalia,
Speaker 1: internal organs, and slabs of flesh. And it's actually within
Speaker 1: this group that the most consistency is shown in the
Speaker 1: targeting of their victims. This is gonna get really interesting.
Speaker 1: Now let me take a sip of my angry orchard,
Speaker 1: which usually gives me horrible acid reflex, so wish me
Speaker 1: luck all right now. The known victims of Gacy, Burdella, Baumeister,
Speaker 1: and Dahmer were all young men, gay or bisexual. Even still,
Speaker 1: there was not necessarily a specific victim profile in all
Speaker 1: these cases. Dahmer's victims ranged in age from fourteen, as
Speaker 1: I have spoken about before, to thirty one, and were
Speaker 1: of various races. Even though the fucking Netflix documentary made
Speaker 1: it out to be some woke, fucking racial fucking issue,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's a CIA fucking issue. But anyways, even
Speaker 1: though the Netflix show tried to make all this BLM
Speaker 1: esque bullshit happened, it wasn't like that at all. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: something that I forgot to mention because I released an
Speaker 1: episode on the Exorcist and how all this weird stuff
Speaker 1: surrounded making the movie the nineteen seventy three I want
Speaker 1: to say, uh, the original Exorcist movie. Fucking Jeff Dahmer
Speaker 1: watched The Exorcist. I think it might have been part two,
Speaker 1: the heretic fucking to charge himself up to go murder
Speaker 1: these people and fucking dismember them and shit, y'all. Probably
Speaker 1: I might release the Exorcist episode for the Cult just
Speaker 1: because it's just a high strangeness that went on with
Speaker 1: that movie. And then Jeff Dahmer fucking program to kill
Speaker 1: Jeff Dahmer fucking watches The Exorcist to get himself all
Speaker 1: charged up to go fucking murder people like, it's just
Speaker 1: really really weird. But onto, Something else I want to
Speaker 1: discuss with you is that even in the cases where
Speaker 1: these killers are given a catchy moniker that is supposed
Speaker 1: to reflect a distinctive signature to their slayings, okay, they're
Speaker 1: actually is rarely a consistent Let me give you some examples.
Speaker 1: The victims of the Boston Strangler, for instance, ranged in
Speaker 1: age from nineteen to seventy five, were both black and white,
Speaker 1: and varied considerably in physical attractiveness, and they were not,
Speaker 1: contrary to popular mythology, fucking strangled in the same way. Okay,
Speaker 1: in some cases it was done manually, in others with
Speaker 1: ligatures acquired from the scene and fucking Some were stabbed, mutilated,
Speaker 1: and or sexually assaulted as well. And then most of
Speaker 1: them were left on display, but just one was discreetly
Speaker 1: covered with a blanket to throw off the scent. I
Speaker 1: guess I don't know. In other strangler news, the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Hill Side Stranglers victim ranged in age from twelve
Speaker 1: to twenty eight and varied considerably by height, weight, race,
Speaker 1: skin tone, and hair color, and in addition to strangulation,
Speaker 1: various other techniques were utilized, including electrocution, lethal injection, and
Speaker 1: lethal gas, all methods improvised with materials at hand, and
Speaker 1: strangely enough, all methods used by the state to perform
Speaker 1: judicial executions. Doesn't sound like many were strangled on a hillside,
Speaker 1: does it. How about Edmund Kemper, dubbed the co ed Killer.
Speaker 1: His victims were definitely not all fucking co eds. Two
Speaker 1: of them were his fucking grandparents okay, and another was
Speaker 1: his mother so and not only that, several others were
Speaker 1: years too young to be a co ed. Oh. In
Speaker 1: speaking of that, I thought of another way. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell people how my boyfriend and I met that I
Speaker 1: don't want them to know that we have shows there's
Speaker 1: an eleven year age gap between us, and next time
Speaker 1: someone asks, I'm gonna tell him he used to babysit me.
Speaker 1: Little inside joke, you know. Anyways, back to the not
Speaker 1: so co ed Killer. His victims were killed with a
Speaker 1: combination of point blank bullet wounds to the head and stabbing, strangulation, suffocation,
Speaker 1: and budgeoning with weapons of you guessed it o portunity.
Speaker 1: Now onto one of my personal favorites. In the case
Speaker 1: of Theodore or Robert Mundey, it is frequently claimed that
Speaker 1: all of his victims were remarkably similar in appearance, and
Speaker 1: many books chronicling Bundy's exploits reinforced this notion by including
Speaker 1: a carefully selected set of photos of the slain women,
Speaker 1: who did kind of resemble one another to a very
Speaker 1: small degree overall, though, the reality is the victims varied
Speaker 1: in hight weight, build, attractiveness, hair color and style, and
Speaker 1: various other physical attributes. As for the manner in which
Speaker 1: they were abducted and killed, that is a fucking matter
Speaker 1: of speculation, okay, because many were never found, and of
Speaker 1: those that were, most of the time they were fucking skulls. Okay,
Speaker 1: fucking skeletons that were recovered. Now, how can you tell
Speaker 1: how they were killed by looking at a fucking skeleton, right,
Speaker 1: But it was determined from what they could tell of
Speaker 1: the other bodies, the cause of death was by means
Speaker 1: of weapons of opportunity. Okay. Now take this for an example,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about the CIA program to kill a
Speaker 1: handbook in the infamous attack at the chi Omega sorority
Speaker 1: house that I spoke about before the crimes were committed,
Speaker 1: with a club acquired immediately before entering the property. Some
Speaker 1: say it was actually just a fucking tree branch. The
Speaker 1: girl who positively identified him as the serial killer said
Speaker 1: that he was holding a tree branch. Okay. The chi
Speaker 1: Omega bloodbath, by the way, was in huge contrast to
Speaker 1: Bundy's previous alleged crimes, which involved the abductions and killings
Speaker 1: of single victims. This crime was completely outside of his
Speaker 1: moh why would he suddenly change things? Why not abduct
Speaker 1: Why not single victims anymore? It's not matching the profile.
Speaker 1: This crime instead seemed to borrow heavily from the rampage
Speaker 1: perpetrated by Richard Speck. Heard of him? Let me put
Speaker 1: y'all on game, all right. Richard Benjamin Speck was an
Speaker 1: American mass murderer who killed eight student nurses in their
Speaker 1: South Deering, Chicago residence via raping, stabbing, strangling, slashing their throats,
Speaker 1: or a combination of them on the night of July
Speaker 1: thirteenth through the fourteenth, nineteen sixty six. But actually, before
Speaker 1: we get right into Richard Benjamin Speck back to Bundy
Speaker 1: for just a second, though, something else that came to
Speaker 1: my mind. Bundy's final murder before his capture was the
Speaker 1: killing of a twelve year old child, which also did
Speaker 1: not match his modus operandi, And that one always bothered
Speaker 1: me because it was so far outside the norm for
Speaker 1: the Bundy victims. He had never abducted, raped, or murdered
Speaker 1: someone so young before from a school, no less, and
Speaker 1: that was right after he broke his modus operandi at
Speaker 1: the fucking cai Omegas rority house. So this whole profiling thing,
Speaker 1: while it makes a great show for criminal minds or
Speaker 1: some shit like that the fantasy world, a lot of
Speaker 1: the most infamous serial killers quote unquote of all time
Speaker 1: really did not have a profile that you could stick to.
Speaker 1: As for Richard Speckle, he also showed no consistency in
Speaker 1: the means by which his victims were killed, other than
Speaker 1: that all died from wounds inflicted with weapons improvised at
Speaker 1: the scene. As I said earlier, death came by way
Speaker 1: of various combinations of strangulation, stabbing, slashing of the throat,
Speaker 1: and breaking of the neck. And so it goes for
Speaker 1: virtually all serial killer cases. Okay, it's random, it's not
Speaker 1: ever in the same way. And most of the time
Speaker 1: you can't even tell how they fucking died because they're
Speaker 1: just finding skeletons. Okay, how about New York's son O Sam?
Speaker 1: How about that one? He targeted men and women of
Speaker 1: various ages. How about how about fucking Arthur shaw Cross,
Speaker 1: the Genesee River Killer. Okay, he killed two young children,
Speaker 1: one was a boy, along with a string of women
Speaker 1: of various ages. So where's the fucking profile? Tell me?
Speaker 1: Most were strangled and or bludgeoned with weapons acquired at
Speaker 1: the scene. The one was drowned. Most were utilated, cannibalized,
Speaker 1: and sexually assaulted. Random as fuck. Should we talk about
Speaker 1: the Gainesville Ripper Danny Rolling. He included one male among
Speaker 1: his five victims. All were stabbed and slashed to death,
Speaker 1: some were posed, and one was beheaded. Where's the profile?
Speaker 1: Where's the fucking profile? And if Netflix made a documentary
Speaker 1: about the Gainesville Ripper, they would say that it was
Speaker 1: so easy to see because he was ripping their throats
Speaker 1: out and he was no. Okay, no, it was random.
Speaker 1: It didn't make sense. None of it was adding up.
Speaker 1: He beheaded a motherfucker. Why wasn't he called the Gainesville
Speaker 1: beheader not catchy enough? Because they love to sensationalize these
Speaker 1: serial killers that they create. They love to sensationalize them.
Speaker 1: So maybe, just maybe these monikers that they come up
Speaker 1: with are nothing but advertisements. They are literally put in
Speaker 1: place to sen say, shinnies, these fucking program to kill assassins.
Speaker 1: And finally, lest we forget the Manson family, whose victims
Speaker 1: ranged in age from teenaged Steven parent to middle aged
Speaker 1: Lino LaBianca and included both men and women killed with
Speaker 1: various weapons, including a twenty two caliber handgun. So clearly,
Speaker 1: there are any number of serial killer cases in which
Speaker 1: there is no defining modus operandi and in which the
Speaker 1: deceased don't fit any kind of specific victim profile. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's kind of difficult to find a case study of
Speaker 1: any serial killer who leaves a distinct signature at each
Speaker 1: crime scene. Okay, and what of the notion of the
Speaker 1: serial killer as a lone predator was Henry and Otis
Speaker 1: partnership and aberration? I think not. There are a number
Speaker 1: of serial killer cases where it is officially acknowledged that
Speaker 1: there were more than one perpetrator at the scene. The
Speaker 1: Manson family, of course, is probably the most well known
Speaker 1: case of multiple perpetrator serial killings, but less well known
Speaker 1: is the case of the Ripper Crew in Chicago in
Speaker 1: the early nineteen eighties. Described by authorities as a four
Speaker 1: man satanic cole, the Rippers, led by charismatic Robin getch Yuh,
Speaker 1: allegedly killed as many as seventeen women in as many months.
Speaker 1: And then there is the case of that Charles ng
Speaker 1: can't pronounce it? Is it Nina? Like? Is that really
Speaker 1: how you say his last name? Fuck him anyways? Okay.
Speaker 1: Though Charles was the only one to stand trial for
Speaker 1: this series of killings in northern California, it is acknowledged
Speaker 1: that the crimes were committed with the assistance of Leonard Lake,
Speaker 1: who committed suicide upon his arrest, and actually evidence strongly
Speaker 1: suggests that there were others involved as well, including Leonard
Speaker 1: Lake's fucking ex wife. Okay. Now, many other serial killers
Speaker 1: have worked in pairs, including the Hillside stranglersh plural and
Speaker 1: working the same Los Angeles area turf. Just one year
Speaker 1: after the Stranglers were stopped was the tea of Roy
Speaker 1: Norris and Lawrence Plyers, Bittaker. Okay, the fucking Toolbox Killers,
Speaker 1: which I have spoken about before. Do y'all remember the
Speaker 1: fucking Halloween Murders episode I did with the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 1: I talked to you about the fucking Toolbox Killers, Okay,
Speaker 1: And they basically just took over after the Hillside Stranglers
Speaker 1: were stopped their protege, if you will, And a few
Speaker 1: years after they were caught, the team of Douglas Clark
Speaker 1: and Carol Bundy, who was working the very same LA streets,
Speaker 1: committing a series of killings dubbed the Sunset Strip Murders. Okay.
Speaker 1: They were also a team in the same fucking area
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, isn't that strange? And the year after
Speaker 1: they were caught, another serial killer took over the LA Market,
Speaker 1: the notorious night Stalker. Come on, guys, And even though
Speaker 1: the media stated the contrary, there is a lot of
Speaker 1: fucking evidence that clearly points to multiple perpetrators, not just
Speaker 1: Richard Ramirez, So what the fuck is going on with that?
Speaker 1: It also strongly suggests that some of the killings were
Speaker 1: contract hits. Okay. As I kind of implied earlier in
Speaker 1: this episode, the same can be said of the evidence
Speaker 1: in the Herb Mullen case, and actually, as we take
Speaker 1: a more in depth look at our illustrious roster of
Speaker 1: serial colors in these upcoming episodes, evidence almost always indicates
Speaker 1: multiple assailants, with their very few exceptions, and that fucking
Speaker 1: evidence is routinely ignored or buried or explained away by
Speaker 1: law enforcement authorities and the people who document the crimes
Speaker 1: of these high profile criminals. This dude, Maury Terry, who
Speaker 1: I think I may have mentioned before, has actually done
Speaker 1: a bang up job arguing the case that the Son
Speaker 1: of Sam killings were carried out by multiple cult members,
Speaker 1: despite the media portrait of David Berkowitz as the proverbial
Speaker 1: lone killer, and a lady named Susan Kelly has likewise
Speaker 1: done a great job of exposing the Boston strangler killings
Speaker 1: as the work of several killers, not just one. So
Speaker 1: I guess it should be called the Boston Stranglers, right.
Speaker 1: And even before the release of Kelly's book, which she
Speaker 1: called the Boston string Plural so creative, there had long
Speaker 1: been speculation that the killings were not the work of
Speaker 1: one man. Most of the officials involved in the investigation.
Speaker 1: In fact, never believed that a single killer was responsible.
Speaker 1: Betcha didn't know that. And actually, of the eight members
Speaker 1: of the psychiatric panel convened to develop a profile, seven
Speaker 1: believed that there were at least two perpetrators, some said
Speaker 1: maybe even three with the Boston Stranglers, and even in
Speaker 1: those cases that seemed to come closest to matching the
Speaker 1: classic serial killer profiles, such as the John Wayne Gacy
Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Dahmer cases. Believe it or fucking not, guys,
Speaker 1: believe it or fucking not, there is a compelling case
Speaker 1: to be made that there were other killers involved. I know,
Speaker 1: fucking shock the hell out of me too, But then again, I,
Speaker 1: as many of you may be as well, have been
Speaker 1: brainwashed since I was a kid. Yes, my mom and
Speaker 1: I watched serial killer documentaries when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: but basically, they pushed the whole lone killer thing on
Speaker 1: people so hard. It's like, why wouldn't you believe them.
Speaker 1: We're conditioned since whenever the fuck you started becoming interested
Speaker 1: in true crime stories to believe that these were lone psychopaths.
Speaker 1: To lock your doors and stay inside because the fucking
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer might get you. John Wayne Gacy's on the loose.
Speaker 1: Ted Bundy's right around the corner. But is it all
Speaker 1: that it's cracked up to be, because then you find
Speaker 1: out you're not getting the full story and shit changes, right,
Speaker 1: and that evidence will be examined in later episodes. I know, exciting, right,
Speaker 1: We're really getting into it, and uh, just as a
Speaker 1: taste test for what we might be getting into in
Speaker 1: these upcoming episodes, we will look at the cases of
Speaker 1: two high profile alleged serial killers slash mass murderers who
Speaker 1: were said to have acted alone. Right. The first is
Speaker 1: that of Yosemite killer Carrie Stainer. The other dates all
Speaker 1: the way back to nineteen sixty six, the year Richard
Speaker 1: Speck allegedly went berserk in a home filled with young
Speaker 1: nursing students in Chicago, becoming the first mass murderer of
Speaker 1: the television age. I hope you're getting as I am,
Speaker 1: because we're going to be diving so far in the
Speaker 1: hole in the next episode. I'm talking whole lower body
Speaker 1: in that bitch. Okay, we're getting into the thick of things,
Speaker 1: and uh, I got a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 1: in my personal life. I may be coming to you
Speaker 1: with a different background next time, we'll see or I
Speaker 1: might still be fucking coeped up in my sister's extra bedroom.
Speaker 1: God only fucking knows what's going on. As long as
Speaker 1: my show remains my top priority, I think everything will
Speaker 1: be fine. If you actually saw what my room looked
Speaker 1: like right now, it'd be a real testament as to
Speaker 1: where my mental state is. It's a fucking wreck. And
Speaker 1: I'm usually the most tidy organized motherfucker ever, But I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know. I'm not depressed. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I'm not depressed type of person,
Speaker 1: but it's just stressful. I got a lot of the
Speaker 1: rest in my life. But it's fall. You know, we
Speaker 1: got a lot of holidays coming up. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I love the holiday season. I'm actually planning. I want
Speaker 1: to do something fun for everyone for Christmas. I think
Speaker 1: you know. November is my birthday month, November thirtieth hola
Speaker 1: Sagittarius season, So fucking it's my time to shine, right.
Speaker 1: I'll be thirty on the thirtieth. It's my golden birthday.
Speaker 1: I have a lot to look forward to, including Program
Speaker 1: to Kill Part five. I hope I see you all
Speaker 1: next week. As we continue the program to Kill series,
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Speaker 1: learn just as soon as humanly possible. I can't seem
Speaker 1: to face up through the facts. I'm tensing, nervous at Cansel.
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