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Speaker 1: Hello, this is Martin Willis our host, and welcome back

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to our new old time slot. This is a time

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slot where we always ran the Everything Else show, and

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we still will be running those on occasion at this time.

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So that's every excuse me, that's every Thursday. We are

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going to be doing a show here at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Last show a couple of days ago on Tuesday, when

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I had Doctor Rogers on from NASA. I ask people

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out there if they please reply to me if this

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is too much content. You know, two shows a week,

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and overwhelmingly everyone says they love it so and if

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you don't like it, you missed your chance because other

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people say they want it. And I'm going to continue

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on until enough of you gang up on me and

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say stop. So anyway, I'm really excited to have Gene Alioto.

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He's a really good friend of mine. We became friends

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over the last number of years we've known each other,

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and we have a lot of fun together. He's going

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to be talking about his new film, which was just

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released on Amazon. We're going to be talking about other

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things too, but that as well. And before I bring

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him in, I'm going to play the trailer just a

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couple of other things here. I will be at the

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Exeter UFO Incident Conference this year. I'll be a speaker

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there and also up in shag Harbor. I think it's

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going to be my third or fourth year in a row.

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I'm going to be empcing up there, and hope to

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be doing a lot of other things next, you know,

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toward the end of the year and next year, hope

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to be down at the Ozark. Definitely going to Contact

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in the Desert again. I wouldn't miss that after going

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it was so much fun. So anyway, Oh, the people

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in the chat, thank you all for being here. Tom

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King from the Phoenix Likes, thank you so much for

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being here. Good to have you in here. And Jay

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Kirshneman and Stargazer, Valiant Loki and Duckhead, thank you all

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for being here in chat and thanks for your great

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questions as always as well. And hopefully this time slot

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will work for a lot more people than the Friday

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at six pm did. However, if you're catching this Friday

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at six pm on kg Radio, you'll be catching this

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on Friday at six pm on KGr Radio. Because what

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happens is I run this show here live and sometimes live,

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sometimes pre recorded, and then the following day on Friday,

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you can listen over at KGr A Radio at the

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usual time slot six pm. So, without further ado, the great,

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one and only, the Founder of Found Film Movies, Diana Alioto.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, nice to be Do you like Yeah?

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Speaker 3: How do you like that title? The founder of Found Film.

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Speaker 2: It's a ton twister. It's what you do before you

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start singing barbershop quartet to warm up. Yeah, I don't

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know about this. Two times a week? Man? Is that

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too much? Are you pushing it?

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Speaker 1: It is? I am, yeah, yeah, it's uh, you know,

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it's it's extra work.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: What happened was, you know, I went to Contact in

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the desert and I recorded a bunch of great interviews.

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I said, what am I going to do with these?

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And then I said, well, I'll run them, you know, uh,

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And then people like that that I ran it, you know,

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two times a week, and so I kind of committed

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to doing this, and you know, I'm scheduled right through

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the end of September for both days per week, and

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we have some great guests coming up.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember that during COVID you had tons of

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requests to do it like every day people.

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Speaker 1: Really like that's right. They wanted a place to.

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Speaker 2: Scrape reassurance, knowing that UFOs are still out there even

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though you know the pandemic and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, the UFOs there, they started it. Maybe

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I don't know, I try to start a conspiracy here,

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So you know what, I think, I should play your

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trailer to your film and then we'll chat a bit

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about that and a couple of other things. There's something

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we're going to speculate on a little later on that

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has to do with Bryce's Abel and Ross's cold Heart. Okay,

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but for now, let's bring this in and get it

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Speaker 3: Just a moment.

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Speaker 4: Vatican has been studying extraterrestrials for a long time. There

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are usually a few reasons why non human intelligence would

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want to interact with human intelligence.

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Speaker 5: They may be just as curious as we would be

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about them. They may just be the ultimate intellectual that

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they are so curious about who we are that they

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may even tamper with where we're going.

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Speaker 4: People are calling this reception of information from non human

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intelligence today a download.

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Speaker 1: Maybe eventually we're going to need to upgrade our minds regularly.

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Speaker 2: In order to keep up with the pace of technology.

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Alien scientists have the same commitment coming here and studying

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the antil. That is, US.

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Speaker 6: Americans would never be in an asometric war unless we're

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Speaker 1: We need to think about that. Why are they coming here?

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Speaker 1: I was contacted to take a look at the material

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origin of the sample. I think it's going to be

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shocking for a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Wow, where are we?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was I did that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, heng on, just a second.

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Speaker 3: Here are you listening?

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Speaker 1: Are you hearing something in the background.

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Speaker 2: I'm not what are you hearing?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just trying to get rid of things?

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's my heart. Do we go? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here we go?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, sorry about that. So, yeah, my my, I

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I'm up what they call ludite. I guess I'm a

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little technical, technically challenged. So I had some other video

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was going off that followed after yours. But I'm glad

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you didn't hear it. But thanks so much. That's an

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awesome trailer. I got to see the screen here, the

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screening you had out of contact that the desert.

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Speaker 3: It was really great.

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Speaker 1: And the most important thing is there's a guy that

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made his film debut, that Martin Willis. He was he

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was there in the film. That's right about three and

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Speaker 3: I think it was it was.

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Speaker 2: About two seconds too long, but you know, somehow the

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long director's cut got in there. But yeah, yeah, no,

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you drop a really nice line like it was a

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perfect It was a big moment was leading up to you.

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Speaker 1: I think it just happened to work in that little yeah.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, No, no, it was.

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Speaker 1: That was a great film, and I was I was

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surprised at the amount of people that were watching that

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Speaker 3: And that was a big crowd.

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Speaker 1: And I dare say, James, I hope you're not listening,

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but I dare say that you had a bigger crowd

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to get into a tit for

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to get it on Amazon. And they're like, yeah, well

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Speaker 3: I don't have a drum roll thing, but anyway, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Amazon has decided to curate out the bulk of their

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UFO and alien content and some paranormal as well. I'm

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not sure why that is the case. Maybe it's because

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a whole bunch of people are just using AI and

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kicking out these documentaries once a month or twice a month,

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and so there's too much, and so they they don't

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want anything that has to do with aliens on the artwork,

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in the artwork or in the title. So if you're

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which is the trailer we just shown showed. However, for

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so we had to change a title and had to

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change the artwork. It's ridiculous. But if you go to

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Alien Perspectivemovie dot com Alien Perspective Movie, there's links that

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just know that that life beyond Earth, the trailer you're

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just shown again is the follow up to the Alien Perspective.

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Speaker 1: Right, and let's see. I'll just so that'll that'll be down.

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and you worked hard. You worked for quite a while

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in that particular film. How long did it you know?

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Speaker 2: Keep going? Four years, keep going?

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Speaker 1: Was it really?

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Speaker 3: Was it really longer? Wow?

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this this documentary in nine months and I'll do fifteen

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interviews and I'll be and I'll be done. But I

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care too much about the phenomenon. And the problem with

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where you start to say, all right, well, I went

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new director of the Carl Sagan Institute, and then that

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person has some of the answers, and then you go somewhere.

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which is Alien Perspective, then there's Life Beyond Earth, and

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I'm aspiring to make what I hope will be close

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to the definitive movie on the Experiencers, and that's got

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a lot of great great interviews and stuff, and that'll

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and then I'm doing another one on a very famous

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Speaker 3: I think we can probably figure out who that might be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a question. Now, I can't have you on

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without people talking about the McPherson film. I mean, I

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kind of was joking about it in the beginning, or

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the founder of the found footage. But anyway, you know,

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we can get into that late, you know, late in

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the show again for the person who's never heard about it.

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you think there is some undiscovered real footage out there?

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I would say absolutely myself. What are your thoughts, Dean?

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for brevity had to pull out that I thought were

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equally interesting, and so I'll probably talk about that. And

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one of the things I'm going to talk about is

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the government and they're control of footage, which you know,

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they have insane, insane beautiful footage, clear as day, And

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and somehow figured out how to reverse engineer what they're seeing,

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like the adversaries are going to do that. And I'm

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kind of like, let's see if I went back in

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time to say the eighteen hundreds, and I pulled out

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and I watch, and I'm saying, check this out. I

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can get the temperature, I can get this and that,

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and what the weather's going to be, the whole deal.

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What time it is. Do you think by looking at

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my watch, even up close, they would figure out all

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the circuits, the chips and everything that goes in it. No,

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so's it's I'm going to stamp that lay mass excuse.

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out there, and so I just don't know when we're

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going to see that. But you know, plenty of people

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have seen it and they've seen it go over their head.

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I mean they've seen it clear as day, and.

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Speaker 1: So well, you know, I don't know if you caught

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my show the other day two days ago with doctor

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Gregory Rogers from NASA. He's a flight surgeon there, and

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he saw a video of something that looked like something

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that had to be reverse engineered somehow, that was doing

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all these spectacular things that you know, a normal craft

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of any kind that we know of, could not do.

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you know, bring it back to the Stone Ages. What

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would they look at you know, what would they think

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or back you know, one hundred years ago. I don't know,

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you know, I think of that this technology could be

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just so way over our head. But perhaps they have

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worked on it long enough to be able to figure

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things out. I don't know, you know, if they had

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this craft that was doing the things, these things that

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doctor Rogers saw, if they had that for like thirty years,

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maybe they could you know, have breakthroughs. And they certainly

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would be trying, I would think, but yeah, well.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get that from footage. You're going

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to get it from a craft crashing maybe or landing

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or you know, getting their hands on it. But the

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evidence that I keep looking for is, you know, we

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have a tendency anytime that we come up with any

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new technology, we weaponize it. And no one exactly adversary

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or our allies that they've seen a craft with a

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couple you know, missiles duct taped you know, to it

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that were yeah, worn free and dropped on on anyone

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or any you know country. So that's kind of a

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good sign.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and it's like, you know, people speculate, like

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this for a few minutes of Ross coltheart and and

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Bryce Stable because I had the okay from Bryce's just

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an hour ago. A half hour ago, he said, speculate

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all you want, here's my video and here's he kind

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of showed me broadly vaguely what might be happening. It

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might they might have had It's possible Ross then Bryce

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might have had a little tiff, and it's possible I

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might have had something to do with the tic TAC.

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what you just said. Anything we find, any breakthrough refine

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we find as human species, not necessarily just America. But

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it's a weaponizing thought, you know, Like the very first

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thing that happened when they split the atom, the thought was, Okay,

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weaponize it. This is going to have a great amount

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of energy. It's going to be a bomb, you know.

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I mean that's the first thing they think of. So

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if the tic TAC was flying around in two thousand

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and four, like supposedly it was, why isn't that weaponize

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you know, I mean, if we had that, if we

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had that technology, I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, we did drop the bomb. So we split the atom,

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we went wow, okay, and we did it, and we

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did it twice in Japan, and then we created the

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hydrogen bomb, which was the mother of all doomsday devices.

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So it yeah, it it is. I don't know, it's

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it's always equate this to like movies or plays. If

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you show the gun in the first act, you got

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to use in a third and so we've not used this,

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thank god. But you know, that opens up a whole

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can of worms. You know, if we do have it?

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What are we doing? And the thing that I kind

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of bump against when it comes to the two theories

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on this, and I'm always agnostic, you know me, I'm like,

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all right, everything's on the table, is uh? Or on

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the plate? Is that if we have these these crafts

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that are you know, flying around and are doing these things,

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would we really break it out and and do dog

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fighting simulated dog fighting with top gun, you know, with

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a top gun commander? What would be the purpose of that?

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just grab someone who's been read into the program and say,

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go at it, have at it? Because that's what Fraver

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was doing that whole excursion that day was to do

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you know, simulated fights training and for the other pilots,

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And so why wouldn't we do that? Why would it

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have to be something that's kept you know quiet? And

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then also if there's this other craft which plays into

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the narrative here that was submerged, that was under how

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does that factor in? So there's a whole bunch of

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variables and the thing that that I always wonder and

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again I don't, I don't know, I haven't, I haven't

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talked and talked to us, spoke with Bryce Yett, excuse me,

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with them, with with Ross yet about this, and I'm

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really keen to do that, but my my feeling is

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that I'm having trouble making that that leap as to

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why they would would do this big song and dance

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with these jet fighters and they would do all these

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things pop here, disappear and pop over here. I need

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to understand why, what the whole purpose of that was,

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because in doing that, this is going to get reported.

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Whether it lies buried for a while, at some point,

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it's going to get reported. So it's really letting the

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genie out of the bottle. So there's a few things

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that I need to understand what the reasons were motivation wise.

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Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I mean one of the things

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that comes to mind when I I brought up that

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topic to Kevin Day about a year ago or so,

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that what if it was you know, our military, that

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what if it was our government running test? And then

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he got really angry about it, and he said that

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would be you know, then I have a lossuit. You know,

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he was like thinking that if they did that without

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letting us know and put us in danger, you know

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it would have it just it just would be impossible.

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He couldn't fathom that they would do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got Travis Walton in The Experiencer's documentary and

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he said to me, and it's in the movie, he said,

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you know, everyone's coming up to me constantly and telling

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me that they have it all figured out and they

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know what it is. Yeah. Right, yeah, he says, I'm

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quoting him. He says, I don't think we do. And

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he says, and that's on purpose. Hm.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, that's quite a statement. Yeah, all right, I'm

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going to play this clip from Bryce right right.

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Speaker 3: This spinet here.

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Speaker 7: See, change is coming to the Need to Know podcast.

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I'm Bryce's Able and I want to invite you to

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join me as I welcome a new co host of

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the show on Sunday night. The mission of the show, though,

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remains the same, and that is to have an ongoing

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conversation for busy people, whether you watch it as a

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YouTube or listen to it as a podcast. It's on

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Sunday night, August tenth, six pm Pacific time, and I

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really do hope you can join this because, let's face it, we.

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Speaker 1: Still all need to know mysterious yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I did see the footage where Ross dropped

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the bomb on on Bryce, on his co host, where

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he told him, you know, I have from authority that

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they're you know, from good authority or you know, it's

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contacts that that this is coming from from us. And

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I just remember Bryce going like this. He had his

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glasses out and it was it was a statement with

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the glasses and and maybe you can read everything into that,

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but Bryce has been at this a long time, and

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so yeah, whatever your pivots to, he's going to do well.

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Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yeah he's very bright. They're both very bright.

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But yeah, yeah, but yeah, I know he's going to

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do really well. He always, like you said, he always

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does said. You know, this podcasting was fairly new for him,

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and I was out and I was out visiting with

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him at his beautiful home in California, and he asked me,

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this was you know, of course two and a half

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three years ago, whenever it was. He said, have you

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heard of this guy named Ross coltheart? He said, we

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may be doing a podcast together, And I said really,

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you know, so yeah, they've had a lot of good

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success with it, and you know, things change all the time,

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so he'll.

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Speaker 3: Do well, roussill do well. They're all do well.

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Speaker 1: And what about I was asked, I was on Dave

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Scott's show the other night out and he's out in

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you know, Canada, the West coast, and so it was

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like middle of the night for me, so it was

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hard to remember everything. But he said, he said, what

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do you think about all this UFO information being shotgun

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at us? All that all of a sudden, like all

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this stuff coming at us all at once. And I

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do feel that way. I feel like there's you know,

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I mean, I I don't know. I'm still working, semi

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retired but still working hard, and it's hard for me

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to keep up with everything. I have great people like

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Jack helps me with a lot of information. He's fairly new.

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He's been helping on YouTube and all that. I have

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Palmer that helps me out. All these people that send

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me things, Brock and of course Donna all send me

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these things constantly. But I can't even keep up with

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it all. I mean, do you don't you feel like

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there's a lot happening?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, you know, there's a saying, if it bleeds,

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it reads right with regards to crime and all those

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stories that are you know, selacious and everything there needs

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to be. Someone comes up with a phrase that if

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it flies, it glides or something. I don't know, but

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it's what is being served up. And so when you

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and I got into this, or you know, when when

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your audience, when we're all kids, it was always relegated

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UFOs always relegated to that, you know, kind of weird, fringe,

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nerdy thing. And then when you know two thousand, well, actually,

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let's there's there's three things that effected. If I'm going

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to chart this out, and I'm just talking out of

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my butt, but first you have the fifties. Right when

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nineteen forty seven when it's mentioned about flying saucer, which

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actually wasn't a saucer looking thing. It was actually more

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of a you know whatever. Moving forward, it takes Hollywood

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a few years to figure this out, Oh, that's kind

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of cool, flying saucers, Martians, that's cool. And then so

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Hollywood starts making movies. So in the fifties you get

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all these movies about UFOs and flying saucers and aliens

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and little green men. Then that kind of goes and comes,

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and then you have the seventies and you've got Spielberg

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in the eighties again with Spielberg Close Encounters, Third Kind

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and et and it brings this you know out again.

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And then you've got these great you know, these great

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people coming out in the in the eighties and nineties,

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from you know, Whitley Strieber to doctor John Mack and

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David Jacobs and all these people coming out. So that

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has that wave. And then you have that ridiculous show

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with Mike Ferrell UFO cover up whatever it was. And

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then you got Richard Doughty who was there in disguise,

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Yeah whatever, and then two you know, sixteen rolls in,

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twenty seventeen rolls in rather and this footage comes out

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and something happens for the first time, which is the

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Navy comes out, the government, if you will, comes out

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and says, yes, these are real. That changes everything, I mean,

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from Stephen Colbert to Anderson Cooper to Fox everyone is

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going nuts with us, and it becomes something that can

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now be portrayed without the theme song from the X Files.

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So a whole new generation jumps on board with perfect

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timing because we've got the podcasters and the influencers who

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are coming up and guess what this is really exciting

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for them, and they are already set up to have

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a stage of microphone you know, out to influencers, if

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you will, or to your audience. And so you know,

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you have people like Chris Ramsay who was a magician

473
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,200
and all of a sudden he pivots and he's into

474
00:27:24,319 --> 00:27:26,319
UFOs and he's probably always been in the UFOs, but

475
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,680
now he's got a show and it's doing well everyone else.

476
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,359
So I think that we're getting bombarded because it's a

477
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,720
generational thing that that is spanning these generations. In filmmaking terms,

478
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,880
it's a four quadrant type market where you're getting the older, younger,

479
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,559
you know that the people who like sci fi, who

480
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,680
like documentaries. It's a huge you know, shotgun to the face,

481
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:57,400
like you said. And so the thing is it continues going,

482
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,119
and then let's throw in some US congressional hearings for

483
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,359
good measure. Yeah, so of course this is you know,

484
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,160
this is going to have a heartbeat for a while,

485
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,200
but there's always these little dips and valleys that you know,

486
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:12,079
comes and goes and everything. I think that's going to

487
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:15,519
continue going, but it seems like whenever it starts to wane,

488
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,880
something gets dropped. Another mic drop happens. But right now

489
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,400
I think we're in a stasis situation where I've not

490
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,480
seen anything going beyond these hearings and these second tanned witnesses.

491
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,319
Speaker 1: Hmmm, well there was the I want to say. His

492
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,880
name was Matt Brown. How are you familiar with that name?

493
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,000
Who claims that he I may be having this totally wrong,

494
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,839
and forgive me out there if I'm saying the wrong person.

495
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:48,240
Someone has been claiming to be a first hind witness

496
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,200
that says they want to testify. I don't know if

497
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,720
that's going to happen. I don't know where it's going,

498
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,400
or if it's going at all. Someone wrote me and

499
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400
they said that there's going to be a hearing in September.

500
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,599
I'm not even familiar with that yet. I haven't really

501
00:29:02,599 --> 00:29:03,799
looked into it. I don't know.

502
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I have. I have Jim Peniston. He's

503
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,319
in both of these documentaries because there was some information

504
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,480
that was given him Part one and other and the

505
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:21,720
and the follow up movie and the dream scenario is

506
00:29:21,759 --> 00:29:24,160
I want someone who's an official. I want someone whose

507
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,559
job it is to is to protect, you know, an

508
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:29,519
air force base, who has a pretty good idea of

509
00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:33,440
discriminating between you know, a Cessna and uh, you know

510
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:39,359
Boeing seven forty seven are a UFO. And not only

511
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,480
did he see it, he's with two other people. He

512
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,319
went and he, you know, on his own, he touched

513
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:50,359
this thing and what he got was a download. And

514
00:29:50,359 --> 00:29:54,559
and the reason why Diana Posolka is the host of

515
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,279
the unofficial host, if you will, of Life Beyond Earth

516
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:03,799
is because she he has specialized in these downloads. And

517
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,240
as we break it down in the movie, they used

518
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,039
to be called the muses. The muses would inspire whether

519
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,559
it was artists or Da Vinci or whatever, to create

520
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,119
these amazing things. And then you have the people who

521
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:19,119
are involved in the space programs, both Russian and American,

522
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,279
that actually said no, no, no, I got this from extraterrestrials.

523
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:29,279
And so I feel like, you know, the I don't

524
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:32,920
know how much more We're going to get from these testimonies.

525
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,960
What I'm looking for, because like you have soul, right

526
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:40,359
that goes on, it's the conference for basically the of UFOs,

527
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,680
right well, until someone drops and I keep saying this

528
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,759
until someone drops an alien tailpipe on the congressional table.

529
00:30:50,279 --> 00:30:52,279
We've gone as far as we can go, right, what

530
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,880
else is are we going to get? I mean, are

531
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,119
we going to get you know, the remains autopsy of

532
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,440
a bean on, you know, NAGI non human intelligence being.

533
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,559
That would be great, but that's the next level. Other

534
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,119
than that, I don't see that that there's anything new

535
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,319
being added. And maybe I'm I'm you know, missing things nuances,

536
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,000
so feel free to bitch slap me, but I'm not

537
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:20,599
saying it.

538
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

539
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,319
Speaker 1: Well, uh, that's really a good point. And you know

540
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:30,160
what I mean. I remember when David Gorsh came out.

541
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,279
I got a call from someone and they said, well,

542
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,480
where's the nuts and bolts, where's the receipts? You know,

543
00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:42,559
that's what we need. We don't need, you know, secondhand testimony.

544
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,960
I think though in that particular case, you know, look

545
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,440
at the level that he was at and intelligence, and

546
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,119
you know, I mean he really he and he went

547
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,400
through the whistleblower methods, the protocols, the where they're supposed

548
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,400
to do it, and so he did everything the right way.

549
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,920
But again it's not firsthand knowledge. So that's what we

550
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,920
really need. But you know, I've said this a number

551
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,480
of times. If if we actually get that, how many

552
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,079
people are going to really believe it even if we

553
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,680
had first hand evidence, right.

554
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,039
Speaker 2: And I do want to address one of your listeners

555
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:25,279
who wrote in and all caps, I don't I'm not sure.

556
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:27,960
I'm not committing yet that the new space Balls movie

557
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,680
will be as funny as the first one, because the

558
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,759
first one was pretty damn funny. So I just want

559
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:34,839
to go on record that I'm holding out until I

560
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,880
see a trailer. When I see a trailer, maybe i'll

561
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,720
I'll throw down, But right now, it's it's anyone's guess.

562
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh it's funny. I met years ago, I did MERV Griffin.

563
00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,200
I did his his appraisal when he passed away in California,

564
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,599
and I met Tony Griffin. A lot of people don't

565
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:54,839
know who MERV Griffin is, but you know he had

566
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:58,599
the MERV Griffin show years ago, Jeopardy and then he

567
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,200
created Jeopardy, created Wheel of Fortune.

568
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,119
Speaker 2: And you know many others in the Beverly Hills Hotel

569
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,240
and a whole right.

570
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:05,359
Speaker 3: All kinds of things.

571
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I talked to his son, you know, Tony,

572
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:13,319
and I said, so, I heard heard you're an actor too,

573
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:17,480
and he says, oh, yeah, Spaceball's he was in Spaceballs.

574
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: I think that was it.

575
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: Well, I want it done. I mean, how you top that? Yeah,

576
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,279
that's right, that's.

577
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: The one hit wonder. That's right, pretty funny. So uh,

578
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,000
let's see, So is your movie still? Is that movie

579
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000
still available on Apple? Because I think that's where I

580
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:33,839
actually watched it.

581
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,759
Speaker 2: Which movie?

582
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:37,799
Speaker 3: You're the first one?

583
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:39,279
Speaker 2: The Alien Perspective?

584
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:40,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

585
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Are Viment first?

586
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,839
Speaker 1: And well? Are they? Are they all? Are they available

587
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,200
on all on Amazon as well?

588
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Both? Okay, so Amazon, all my stuff is parked there again.

589
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,319
The only thing that was kind of confusing is that

590
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:57,240
Amazon doesn't want you to put alien in the title

591
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:01,240
or UFO, and so that's why on Amazon it's called

592
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,839
Life Beyond Earth, and if you want to watch it

593
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,319
on Apple TV, it's called The Onlily Perspective Part two.

594
00:34:06,359 --> 00:34:08,760
But it's the same thing. So don't double buy it

595
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,519
or double rent that. You're going to be pissed off

596
00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,360
at me and go, really, dude, what the hell?

597
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,599
Speaker 3: It's your fault? Always?

598
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, and did I hear you say? Do you

599
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,079
think they're actually creating things through AI on some of

600
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,239
these documentaries?

601
00:34:26,599 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's annoying. It's annoying, af yeah, big time because

602
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,280
it's not about volume. Man, it took seven years for

603
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,960
me to do mine. It took Fox for the Phenomenon

604
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,000
eight years. It took I think fifteen years or more

605
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,199
for Randall ran Gi Yep. Yeah, And so these things

606
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,920
take a long time because stuff change and you have

607
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,079
to go back and you know, things changing, You've got

608
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:59,800
to rewrite and update, and you can't just pick a topic.

609
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,480
And so okay, because a lot of these things are

610
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,880
being written by AI, write me something interesting about this

611
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,239
hasn't been seen before. Then it curates it and comes back,

612
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,960
spits it out and you can tell it is soulless,

613
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,519
and all of the AI just lets like crap. Anyway,

614
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,840
there are some filmmakers who are using it in conjunction

615
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,400
with like if they're doing a reenactment or recreation of

616
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,639
something that is specific and it's not the whole you

617
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:29,599
know piece. I guess that that is you know, an

618
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,920
acceptable integration. But as far as just cranking these things

619
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,840
out and just coming up with these you know BS titles,

620
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,840
you know, you know, the Alien Agenda from Planet X,

621
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,119
I mean, yeah, some of these titles are are ridiculous,

622
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,599
and it just goes on and on, and so if

623
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:52,440
I'm Amazon, and I'm getting all these I'm you know,

624
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,199
I'm going to get frustrated as well. So I get that.

625
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,360
But you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

626
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,719
And so that's the concern is you know, because a

627
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,599
lot of people they don't want to go over to

628
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,320
to Apple TV. I mean, I know that Fox is

629
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:12,280
I'm giving this guy a plug, bastard that his his

630
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,840
movie is now on YouTube movies for free avon. That's

631
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,519
what we call it advertising video on demand. You got

632
00:36:20,559 --> 00:36:23,360
to watch some ads, but you get to watch his

633
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:30,800
movie the program, and so it's yeah, that's yeah. That's

634
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,119
what I have to say about that is is is

635
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,760
you know, it's it's a weird kind of market right now.

636
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,480
But if you're doing something and you're trying to say

637
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:43,920
something that hasn't been said before, I think you'll do well.

638
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, that whole thing, you know, I mean, this

639
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,480
this whole market or whatever you get people say, you know,

640
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,559
why should I pay for anything when I can get

641
00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:54,159
it for free?

642
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:55,119
Speaker 3: Type of thing.

643
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,079
Speaker 1: That that was almost the like is if all of

644
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:00,360
a sudden we somehow.

645
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: Ahead free energy.

646
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you can't regulate what's going on.

647
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,599
Speaker 2: Remember it pitches me off. I'm gonna stop you right there, dude.

648
00:37:08,119 --> 00:37:10,159
Why should I pay for anything I can get for free?

649
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:15,199
How about I hack into your account and I take

650
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,599
your money that you get paid your your your salary. Yeah,

651
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:21,280
why would I go and get my own salary when

652
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,599
I can take yours for free? Because it's still thievery.

653
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,519
So it's like I don't get it. And it's like, really,

654
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,119
you can't throw down on three ninety nine. You don't

655
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:32,639
have to go and park and see it in a

656
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,360
movie theater and you know you have to pay ten

657
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:42,119
bucks for a popcorn? You know, container about this big No,

658
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,360
it's it's that's always unfortunately gonna be there, but you know,

659
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,519
it is what it last.

660
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago, I was accused in an

661
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:58,320
open forum of you know, clickbait and you know, doing

662
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,440
things to make money and all that. But you know,

663
00:38:01,519 --> 00:38:04,079
I mean, I've been doing this for fourteen years coming

664
00:38:04,159 --> 00:38:08,199
up in fourteen years now, and you know, I don't

665
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,159
really want to get into details, but there were many

666
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:14,039
months I was taking six four to six hundred dollars

667
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,079
out of my pocket just to keep this thing going,

668
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,480
you know, for years, and I did it for one

669
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:23,719
reason only because I have a passion for this and

670
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:27,559
I think it's fascinating and interesting and that's what's kept

671
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,559
me going. And so now you know, there's a couple

672
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:34,079
of ads running things get paid for. I get to

673
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,239
you know, I can go places like Contact in the

674
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,880
Desert and things like that. And I do appreciate any

675
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,880
of the help that any of the patrons give me

676
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,800
in any which way in advertising helps with you know,

677
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,599
I do appreciate that. But you know, I mean, I

678
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,920
don't do it for that. That's not what I'm doing

679
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,679
it for. I do it because I love the mystery.

680
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really tough, because again I thought I'll be

681
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:02,559
done in nine months. I mean, that's the hubris of

682
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:06,440
anyone walking into this business. I thought, well, I'm going

683
00:39:06,519 --> 00:39:09,519
to do a documentary the exact opposite one pint eighty.

684
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,159
Then every single other documentary that's been out there, which

685
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:13,920
is from a human's perspective, I'm going to look at

686
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,840
this as a hypothetical from the alien's perspective. And I'm

687
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,079
going to bring in people who don't normally talk in

688
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:24,519
this field from Harvard, Carnegie, Mell, and Cornell. Blah blah blah,

689
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:30,079
and ultimately it grabs you and you're not doing it.

690
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,400
I mean, I didn't start out doing this because I thought, oh,

691
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,320
I'm going to make a killing at this, Because I've

692
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,119
been at the film business long enough to know any

693
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,559
time you set out to do that, you're going to

694
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:42,920
take a dirt bath real fast. And so it just

695
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,039
goes on and on and on, and so we do

696
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:49,599
it because of one thing, and one thing only, I think,

697
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:54,519
and that's curiosity that keeps us in the game. I

698
00:39:54,559 --> 00:40:00,360
will say, however, editing these projects was the strangest experience

699
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,159
that I've ever had uh doing any production in my career,

700
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:13,199
and my girlfriend witnessed this as well. I felt this strange, like,

701
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,559
I don't know, my eyelids would flutter, which is something

702
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:21,800
that when I used to do. I used to go

703
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,239
these meditation retreats and stuff and really get into doing

704
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,840
that relax relaxing and everything, and if I felt like

705
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,960
I was getting a lot of energy, my eyelids would flutter.

706
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:34,760
This sounds really, you know, kind of woo woo, But

707
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,760
every single time I sat down to edit. It doesn't

708
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,039
happen on other projects. In fact, I did a feature film,

709
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,079
a supernatural dark comedy that I shot like five years

710
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:48,480
into the seven years just to take a break. And

711
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,679
when I was editing that nothing, And when I was

712
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,079
editing these projects, they were just like flickering. It was

713
00:40:57,159 --> 00:40:59,599
the weirdest thing. And my girlfriend could see it from

714
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:03,159
across the room, very very strange. And I said to

715
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:09,360
Yvonne Smith, who's a wonderful hypnotherapist, and she's got CERROS,

716
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,119
which is a support group for experiencers, which I've was

717
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,800
lucked out and I was able to go to a

718
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,159
few times. And I talked to her and I go,

719
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,039
I've never seen anything. I've never had any missing time

720
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:24,880
or this or that. And she laughed at me and

721
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,280
looked at me very condescending. I might add, I don't

722
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,519
know who she thinks she is now, And she said, Dean,

723
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,679
they don't need to knock on your door to get

724
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,119
to you. They and quotes. So I found that amusing

725
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:41,360
and terrifying at the same time. But it does. It

726
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,960
grabs you, and you take these many breaks. I'm sure

727
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,199
the audience knows this. You get to a point where

728
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:48,719
were going, God, am I really going to go to

729
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,679
another convention? Am I really going to watch this or

730
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,239
read another book or whatever. And sometimes you take this

731
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,800
many breaks and then the little thing in your brain's

732
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,719
going curiosity. All right, just take a look, you know,

733
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,920
let me just go back on there. And and you know,

734
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,039
we joke about it, but you know, Ali would call

735
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:12,719
it my girlfriend, she would call it, you know, or

736
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,039
maybe I called it that and I wasn't. I didn't

737
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:17,360
want to shame anyone. But hey, we can all talk here.

738
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,800
Alien porn. I think that's, you know, not actual alien porn,

739
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:24,760
but it's anything that you're going, oh my god, I

740
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,159
want to check out new footage UFOs what is the latest?

741
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:29,159
And you click through all the subscriber and you're going,

742
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:31,679
oh my god. The person is doing you know this

743
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,880
and has another maybe piece of the puzzle. But then

744
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,639
you know, unfortunately a lot of these pieces don't fit

745
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:40,599
together and you got to throw it out that goes

746
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,440
to another puzzle that has nothing to do with what

747
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,920
we're trying to do or anyway.

748
00:42:44,559 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's that's something I have to tell you

749
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:52,119
a great I think it's a great Yvonne Smith's story.

750
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:58,559
So about ten or twelve years ago, I was doing

751
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:02,039
something in California, doing this show, but I had nothing

752
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:03,239
to do with the show. I think I had to

753
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,719
do with the antiques. So I was in southern California

754
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,599
and I contacted Yvonne. I said, Hey, Yvonne, can I

755
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:14,000
actually come to where you do your hypnotherapy sessions and

756
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,519
actually record a show with you right there? And she

757
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:20,559
said absolutely. So I got there one day and I

758
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,280
set up all my equipment and microphones, did a test

759
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,559
and everything, and we did a whole show together. And

760
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:30,960
you know, I fly back to where was he at

761
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,400
the time, Yeah, New England, fly back to New England,

762
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,960
and I go to edit. This was before I was

763
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,639
doing them live. And I went to edit and there

764
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,519
was sounding there was a sound like Native American chanting

765
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,679
that drowned out everything. You could just barely hear her

766
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,920
and I talk wow through the whole thing, from the

767
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,400
start to the end. There was nothing on my computer

768
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,519
at the time. I don't even think. I think I

769
00:44:01,559 --> 00:44:04,400
had like a recording system or something. There was nothing

770
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,840
that I could figure out that did it. And I

771
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
called her up and I told her and she goes, oh,

772
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:10,239
that's not surprising at all.

773
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, You've want to see some wild stuff.

774
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:20,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, and you know, I made the

775
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:23,039
mistake of deleting it. I've had I've told that story

776
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:25,440
once or twice and people are saying, why didn't you

777
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,679
hang on to that and have someone, you know, try

778
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:30,519
to figure out what it was? And unfortunately, I you know,

779
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,920
I went deleted over you know, went over or deleted

780
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,480
it or something.

781
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:35,159
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

782
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: I never had the The MP three's long gone, yep.

783
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:43,679
But anyway, i'd like for you, let's see, we're going

784
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,159
for say another eleven minutes or so somewhere around there,

785
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,480
and I'd like for you, if you would, to grace

786
00:44:50,599 --> 00:44:54,960
us once again with the McPherson tape, the whole beginning

787
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,079
of how that happened. It's just such a fun story.

788
00:44:57,559 --> 00:45:00,000
And there there are new people listening all the time.

789
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:03,559
I want the new person to hear the McPherson tape story,

790
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,199
how it all started, in the whole thing.

791
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: All right, I'll try to get it in eleven minutes, Yeah,

792
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,559
eleven minutes. So I want to answer some questions so

793
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:11,639
that these guys might.

794
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: Have oh in chat or oh okay, go ahead.

795
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so here's what happened. Here's here's the quick

796
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,639
version of it. I was twenty four years old, I'm

797
00:45:24,639 --> 00:45:27,239
going to turn twenty five. All of my film director

798
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,480
idols made their first film by twenty five. So I

799
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:33,440
knew that I had to get my ass going and

800
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,719
come up with something. And so I knew that I

801
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,000
loved Aliens and I want to do something with that,

802
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:44,559
and big Spielberg fan obviously, and so I didn't have

803
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,719
a pot to you know what in and a buddy

804
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,880
of mine said he would give me sixty five hundred

805
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,920
bucks to make a movie, and I laughed and said, yeah,

806
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,320
I can't do anything with that except, you know, shoot

807
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,880
a wedding video. Well that got me thinking a few

808
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,639
days later, as I finished putting down Whitley Streemer's book Communion,

809
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,559
and I went, hold, on, what if I did a

810
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:10,960
first person version of this experience that Whitley and many

811
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,039
other people have reported to have, and I did it

812
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,159
from the pov of a camera. And so we shot

813
00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:20,559
this thing in nineteen eighty eight, came out in eighty three,

814
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:23,480
and it was a family that gets abducted in the

815
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,599
house in the woods, all in one night.

816
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,559
Speaker 1: Just one second, you said, I think you get your

817
00:46:29,639 --> 00:46:31,599
dates wrong. Can you say the dates again on that.

818
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,159
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty eight is when we shot it, and then

819
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:36,000
it was released in nineteen eighty nine.

820
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,159
Speaker 1: I thought I heard you say eighty three. Okay, yeah,

821
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:39,599
go ahead.

822
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 2: It was actually took place in eighty three. The movie

823
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,679
took place. That was the time dad of when it

824
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,119
was supposedly shot. Anyway, So I make this thing, we

825
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,119
go to sell it. I'm in the Bay Area, so

826
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,159
I do a road trip down to to LA and

827
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:58,159
everyone just hates my guts and they're throwing their car

828
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,000
keys at me and going get out of my office?

829
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:02,320
Is what is this crap? Who do you think you are?

830
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,320
Don't ever come back here unless you have a real

831
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,039
movie again ten years before Blair Witch And so I

832
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,480
felt that shame and I'm like, yeah, you're right. I

833
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,159
shouldn't have come in here, but I had to try.

834
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,239
And so so we get someone who actually says, hey,

835
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,159
you know what, I'll distribute this thing. Kid, don't worry

836
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:22,320
about it. So give it to him. We think that

837
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,079
we've won the lottery, and I call in a month

838
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:27,480
or two later and say, hey, how's it doing. How's

839
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:29,679
the film? And he goes, oh, it's on fire like

840
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,519
up and I'm like, oh that's great. What does that mean?

841
00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:35,119
How many units VHS at the time, and he goes, no, no,

842
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:39,559
it's up in fire, like in flames, our warehouse burned

843
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:41,480
to the ground, and so your master and all your

844
00:47:41,559 --> 00:47:47,119
artwork is gone. And so I knew it wasn't Citizen

845
00:47:47,199 --> 00:47:49,800
Kane or The Godfather. So it's kind of like, oh, well,

846
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,119
I've got the original source tapes that were shot on it.

847
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:57,559
So if whatever it's the film, God's telling me, nice shot, kid.

848
00:47:57,599 --> 00:47:59,639
Move forward. A few years later, I get a call

849
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,719
from someone saying I just saw your film at the

850
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,280
International UFO Congress Convention. No credits were on the film.

851
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:10,119
It was believed to be real unsolved mysteries hard copying.

852
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:12,400
A show called Encounters all want to do a story

853
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,239
on this film, and so I end up going on

854
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,880
national TV to debunk my own film, and then the

855
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,599
internet hit and I had to debunk it all over again.

856
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,519
But in between that time, I did a remake for UPN.

857
00:48:25,559 --> 00:48:28,199
It was her first TV movie called Alien Abduction Incident

858
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,239
in Lake County that came out a year and a

859
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,920
half before Blurwitch, And again everyone got fired at UPM.

860
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,639
We were up in Vancouver with the guys from the

861
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,119
X File shooting it. I came back, they fired me,

862
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:44,519
cut it down to an hour, and some interesting news

863
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:46,440
here is is a chance that this film might actually

864
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:52,079
get released. Well but I know more, I'll let you know.

865
00:48:52,119 --> 00:48:53,480
But a lot of people have said how do I

866
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,199
get this film? And it's been unavailable, the remake anyway,

867
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:01,199
So that's how that all came up about. It came about,

868
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,639
and then I was invited for the twenty fifth anniversary

869
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,800
to go to the same UFO convention that it showed at,

870
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,480
which is the International Fall Congress Convention by Alejandra Ross

871
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:14,239
and Karen Brard and so I went there and was

872
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,079
really nervous, showed it and everyone was cool. They had levity,

873
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,480
had no pitchforks, did I see our torches? Everyone has

874
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,960
a sense of humor in the UFO community. They're great.

875
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,920
And so that got me back into having interest, you know,

876
00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:31,559
into this, and I started meeting highly credible people and

877
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:35,119
that's when I went, WHOA, I think there's a documentary

878
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,199
or two to be had here that I've not seen

879
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,639
before that really cuts to the aspects of the phenomenon

880
00:49:42,679 --> 00:49:45,559
that I have not seen represented. So there you go.

881
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: I was great, What was that we did? We you

882
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,760
did even better. Yeah, yeah, that's where you and I

883
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,840
when you and I met the first time. Actually, and

884
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,360
I'm trying to say, was that what year was that?

885
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,199
Twenty seventeen or four.

886
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: Two thousand eighteen, right after the twenty seventeen years, so

887
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,280
it would be in March or February. It was February because

888
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:05,639
there was.

889
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,639
Speaker 3: That's sorry, time's to day.

890
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring on these questions. Let's do this.

891
00:50:11,199 --> 00:50:14,599
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the questions? I'm sorry, these questions in chat?

892
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: Huh no, when you see some questions now?

893
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: All right, I did wait a minute, okay, yeah, so anyone,

894
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,960
we have some people here, so in chat, if you

895
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,800
have a question, please type in your questions now. And

896
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,760
I did see one up here that is not a question,

897
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,519
that is a statement. And that's another statement and another

898
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:39,280
statement balled by the same person about senses of humor

899
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,440
or something. I think we're out of questions already. We

900
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,199
have we have a lot of like, uh, you know,

901
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,679
good points and things like that.

902
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,679
Speaker 2: But what was the blowback like on you your fake

903
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,119
alien movie?

904
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: Oh that must have just came up your question?

905
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: All right, mister Tom King.

906
00:50:58,519 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: Here it is?

907
00:50:59,199 --> 00:51:03,519
Speaker 2: Yeah Tom? Yeah, Well Tom, you should know man because

908
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:07,719
you were no. So the blowback was that people said

909
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,559
I was full of crap and that I worked for

910
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:14,719
the government. And I actually had someone tell me this

911
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,599
in person in a very nice way, because my last

912
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:19,360
name is Alioto and there used to be a mayor

913
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:26,079
named Alioto in the seventies, and the scuttle but was

914
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:29,239
that he was maybe my father, and that because he

915
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,199
was a mayor and somehow tangently tied in with the government.

916
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Government and quotes that they got to me to remake

917
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:42,559
the original McPherson tape, which was called UFO Abduction originally

918
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,159
to throw people off the scent of the original being real,

919
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:48,719
and that's why I did the other And so I

920
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,760
had to tell him, well, he would have to have

921
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:57,480
been my grandfather, and I never met the guy, and

922
00:51:57,519 --> 00:51:59,800
so that didn't work. And then I throw out some trivia.

923
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,880
His Joseph Aliotta, who was the mayor, went after Look

924
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,800
magazine because he was actually going to be groomed for president,

925
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,679
and Look magazine came out and said because Look magazine

926
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,760
wasn't doing very well, so they started doing more exploit

927
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,519
of crap reporting, and they came out and said that

928
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,119
Joe Aliota was tied in with the mafia, and so

929
00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:20,159
he sued them. And Look magazine is the same one

930
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:26,079
that reported Jackie Gleeson's wife. She said in Look magazine

931
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,639
that Jackie Gleeson had seen some bodies and stuff with Nixon.

932
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:33,159
That's a whole other, nice story. Anyway. Yeah, he beat

933
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:34,880
the crap out of them in court and won a

934
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,159
huge settlement and Look magazine went bye bye. So there

935
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:42,599
you go. Wow. So the ballback hasn't been lasting other

936
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,559
than it's become this thing that people enjoy. And I

937
00:52:46,599 --> 00:52:49,199
do know that there's a bunch of high schoolers who

938
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,159
take their buddies and they show them the original moving

939
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:54,280
They don't tell them that it's real or not. They

940
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,000
videotaped the reaction as they have these meltdowns, and that's

941
00:52:58,039 --> 00:52:59,400
pretty funny to watch on YouTube.

942
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,599
Speaker 3: So oh hey, I bet that'd be fun, real fun.

943
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,119
Speaker 1: You don't have to answer this because this could open

944
00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:07,679
up a can of worms, but you can if you

945
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,360
want to. There isn't one other question in there. What

946
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,760
is your opinion on Bob Lazar.

947
00:53:12,199 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't know Bob Lizard. What is okay? Yeah?

948
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, go ahead, go ahead, no, no.

949
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: I don't know him. I've never spoken with him. A

950
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,000
buddy of mine just made a movie with him that

951
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,400
is going to be pretty big. But I've not kicked

952
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:28,840
the tires.

953
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: Let's you say, yes, I had a discussion with your

954
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,239
buddy at Contact in the desert. We had a friendly debate.

955
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,760
I'll put it that way. That's that's what I'll say.

956
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,440
We heded. He is a great guy. He's a nice

957
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,880
guy in Canada. What's his first name, Luigi? Luigi. Yes,

958
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,159
Luigi's a great guy. So here's another question for you.

959
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,960
What is going to happen before twenty twenty six or

960
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,679
the hearings coming up a good thing? Do you think

961
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:04,039
humans would accept aliens have proven undeniably real? In other words,

962
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,559
you think people would accept disclosure that we're not alone.

963
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,719
I believe Terrence.

964
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: Terrence, I'm glad that you asked me that because I

965
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,920
am the only person that can answer that. And I'll

966
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,960
tell you this, before twenty twenty six, there's going to

967
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,800
be a bunch of months and then it'll be twenty

968
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,280
twenty six. So that's part one answered, Part two. With

969
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,079
regards to will people be able to handle it? I

970
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,599
think that the experiencers are doing pretty damn well with it.

971
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,639
When I went to a Cerro's support group after hearing

972
00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:38,079
everyone's story, and there's about fifteen or more of them,

973
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,800
I said, I want to see a show of hands.

974
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,559
How many people would have this experience all over again,

975
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,840
or you could wipe it out and have it never happen.

976
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:48,360
Show me your hands if you would want to go

977
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,239
back and erase time, so to speak.

978
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

979
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,199
Speaker 2: No one raised their hand.

980
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: Really.

981
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that we all know that we're

982
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,119
not the only intelligent semi intelligent. I'm being kind with

983
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:08,079
us species out there. My big concern is not that.

984
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:10,119
My big concern is if they were to show up

985
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,360
on the White House lawn and stuff. It's very problematic

986
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:17,519
because everyone reports that they communicate telepathically, so you can't

987
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:21,199
really mike someone who talks telepathically. So logistically that might

988
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,880
be a problem. But we take things and we spin

989
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,239
them and we put them up on pedestals, pedestals, and

990
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,840
so we could look at these things as being amazing everything,

991
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,960
and then the next second they could be, you know,

992
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,239
called demons. I mean, Louie Alzando told me, he says,

993
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,960
when he would brief these generals, what's going on a

994
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,599
chunk of them would say, hey, you're doing God's worth.

995
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:44,719
Thank you God's work. And then another chunk of them

996
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,559
would say, you do know that they're demons? Right? So

997
00:55:48,599 --> 00:55:52,159
that's right, man, We just misinterpret things left and right.

998
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: So I just made that little break. We're let's continue

999
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,599
on a little bit. And because I see all of

1000
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:00,199
a sudden, we have some questions coming in. Okay, and

1001
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,519
this one is from Mendi. She always has great questions.

1002
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,719
Does do you think it's possible that UFOs are actually

1003
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:13,000
separate from the phenomenon? Are people complating these things?

1004
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 2: Mennopolis, What a great question. Jeez. You know, I'm looking

1005
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:26,320
at these orbs and I'm and I'm thinking that, you know,

1006
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,559
this is a life form. I did say. It sounds

1007
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:33,320
like I'm name dropping, but I did ask. When I

1008
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,679
was talking to the first time I met lou Elisondo,

1009
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,119
I said, I feel like these crafts are organic. And

1010
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:42,679
when I interviewed Jim Penison, he never mentioned this. It

1011
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,719
is not in his book or anything, but he elaborates

1012
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,639
on that in our documentary and he says, yeah, I

1013
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,639
think that this is organic. I think that these things

1014
00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:54,800
are Now, are they separate from the phenomenon. Well, anything

1015
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,440
that's flying around that is doing things that we can't

1016
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,039
do is a phenomenon by by definition, So it's kind

1017
00:57:03,039 --> 00:57:05,480
of hard to separate the two if we're saying, do

1018
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:10,639
we separate it from them being extraterrestrials you know, and

1019
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:14,000
be from the dimension possibly, But you know, I kind

1020
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,760
of think it's all the above. We're going to figure

1021
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,079
out time travel, right and so what are we going

1022
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:20,280
to do. We're gonna go back in time and visit ourselves.

1023
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,159
So that's got to be happening right now. So some

1024
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:26,920
of these I would assume that that would be the case.

1025
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,679
Speaker 1: So unless our species doesn't last long enough to do that,

1026
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,960
you know what I mean.

1027
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,239
Speaker 2: Very possibly going to, but it could be.

1028
00:57:35,239 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: I mentioned this to doctor Michael Masters once.

1029
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: What if we do get wiped out, like we're almost

1030
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:47,199
on track to or basically possibly on track to, and

1031
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,760
a new species involves. You know, there's still plenty of

1032
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,840
time ahead of us before the sun swalls up too

1033
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,559
big and we heat up too much and no life

1034
00:57:56,599 --> 00:58:00,199
can exist. So what if another species evolves in the

1035
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:05,199
future that gets through the bottleneck and develops time travel

1036
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:06,960
and they come back and that's why they look like

1037
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:07,480
the grace.

1038
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: I have an no one anyway, I have another theory

1039
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,199
for you. All right, they're not from the future. What

1040
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:19,760
if they're from the past. Yeah, yeah, that could also

1041
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,280
make sense. I mean, if you look at it, there

1042
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,039
are certain types of dinosaurs that were around sixty million

1043
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:31,880
years before the big favorite dinosaurs you know of Jurassic

1044
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,920
Park showed up. So there are sections in history that

1045
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,119
you know, could come and go and we wouldn't even

1046
00:58:38,119 --> 00:58:41,639
have any artifacts. It would have you know, broken down,

1047
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,480
and so it's yeah, we don't know, but we're on

1048
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,480
track not to do too well. We're on track to

1049
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:48,519
be wiping ourselves out.

1050
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:50,679
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, it seems like that.

1051
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: So just another perspective because we think that you know,

1052
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,679
things like say, for instance, of pyramids, well in twenty

1053
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:03,119
around twenty million years, there will be no If erosion

1054
00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:08,400
happens without them being protected, the pyramids would be completely gone.

1055
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,320
I know, it's so hard to about twenty million years,

1056
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:18,880
you know, with statistically through erosion. So that the reason

1057
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,039
I'm bringing that up is because you know, if you

1058
00:59:22,119 --> 00:59:24,880
really want to think about these things, maybe there could

1059
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,719
have been species in the rear view mirror that had

1060
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,880
developed and are gone, you know, I mean, you know,

1061
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,239
maybe I'm really going out there a little woo woo

1062
00:59:34,239 --> 00:59:38,239
on this, but I think, you know, it's there is

1063
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:41,639
a possibility because you know, we it's so hard to

1064
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:45,519
imagine time, and you know, when you're talking billions of

1065
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,960
years and you know, I mean, just to try to

1066
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,519
figure all that out and what could exist and come

1067
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:54,239
back and be no signs of the planet could vulcanize

1068
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,599
and destroy all evidence of whatever it was and then

1069
00:59:57,639 --> 00:59:58,559
start all over again.

1070
00:59:58,599 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: It could those things could happen.

1071
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: Think yeah, I mean if we get hit with another

1072
01:00:03,079 --> 01:00:07,199
media or a few you know, asteroids, that that'll that'll

1073
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:10,119
do a lot of a racing of the of the blackboard.

1074
01:00:10,519 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Okay, So I gonna pop in a couple

1075
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,840
of these questions. Do you think Steven Spielberg has an

1076
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:17,519
inside track?

1077
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 7: No?

1078
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: I do not. I get asked that a lot. No,

1079
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:27,360
he he, He doesn't have any more knowledge of it

1080
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,039
than we do. And what I mean by that is,

1081
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,719
why would someone confine in a in a filmmaker. I mean,

1082
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,119
all of his stuff seems very intuitive and so everyone

1083
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,800
makes that connection. It's easy to but you know, he's

1084
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,719
working with j Allen Heinek, for God's sake, on Close Encounters,

1085
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:53,199
so that's why that's authentic, and and other people before then.

1086
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:56,360
But he he's only made you know, a few films

1087
01:00:57,199 --> 01:00:58,719
that are in that space. He made War of the

1088
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,199
World's HG. Else And and that wasn't really kind of

1089
01:01:03,199 --> 01:01:06,079
further in any agenda other than just having fun and

1090
01:01:06,159 --> 01:01:09,159
you know, blowing crap up. And now he's doing a

1091
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:13,119
new UFO film, so we'll see, but with regards to

1092
01:01:13,159 --> 01:01:16,320
how that one turns out. But no, he doesn't have

1093
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,800
any no filmmakers do I. I've heard that before a

1094
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,880
million times, and I've not seen anything out there that

1095
01:01:25,639 --> 01:01:28,239
that has been next level And we go, oh wow,

1096
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,880
so that's what's actually going on. I mean, any idea

1097
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,719
that you and I have right now when anyone else

1098
01:01:33,719 --> 01:01:38,039
will have, chances are it's already been written about novelist eyes,

1099
01:01:38,239 --> 01:01:43,400
novelized in in Amazing Stories or in you know, sci

1100
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,320
fi magazines and stuff, and in novels again HG. Wells,

1101
01:01:47,519 --> 01:01:49,679
he predicted that we would have all these stages with

1102
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,480
rockets and stuff to get to the moon, and we'd

1103
01:01:51,519 --> 01:01:53,199
have booster rockets. I mean, how the hell did he

1104
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:58,440
do that? But anyway. No, I don't think that filmmakers do.

1105
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,119
I wish I'm line, you know, I'd love to.

1106
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so here's one that could get us

1107
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,039
into a fight somehow. Thank you Martin and Deane. Last question,

1108
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:16,719
what is your favorite UFO related or not? Movie UFO

1109
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:21,079
related or not? Because I'm supposed to say you're a

1110
01:02:21,199 --> 01:02:27,119
movie Dean, and then you can't say, yeah, let's see,

1111
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,679
So I don't know if you want to. All right,

1112
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:31,320
let's what is?

1113
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 2: What is your favorite boundaries? What is your favorite movie?

1114
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,079
You're you're in a safe space here, this is no judgment,

1115
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:40,039
no shame, and.

1116
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:47,119
Speaker 1: It's a let's see. I would have to say, what's

1117
01:02:47,159 --> 01:02:51,039
that one from the nineteen fifties. I mean, it's just

1118
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:55,239
so fun to watch with the giant robot.

1119
01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: Narrows it down. Okay, you're talking about the day the

1120
01:02:58,320 --> 01:02:59,119
Earth stood still?

1121
01:02:59,440 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: That's it.

1122
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:03,119
Speaker 2: Brtherwise, I think that's just fun to watch. That's a

1123
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,639
great movie. That's a really good movie. It's not the

1124
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:07,639
McPherson tape, but you know, what is it?

1125
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:08,199
Speaker 1: What is?

1126
01:03:09,239 --> 01:03:12,039
Speaker 2: All right? My favorite film is I would say Close

1127
01:03:12,119 --> 01:03:17,119
Encounters of the Third Kind because it achieved something that

1128
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:19,519
no other film sci fi action film had, which is

1129
01:03:19,559 --> 01:03:22,119
there's no bad guys, you don't see the aliens until

1130
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:25,519
the end of the film, and it's wonderment. Man, it

1131
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:26,639
is wonderment again.

1132
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:28,559
Speaker 1: The thing for me, if I.

1133
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:32,239
Speaker 2: Could pick one word to represent the phenomenon, it's curiosity.

1134
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,239
And it's why we will be able to at some

1135
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,599
point to have communion with these beings. It'll be through curiosity,

1136
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:41,920
the language of curiosity.

1137
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: So you know, I have to watch that movie again

1138
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,159
because I watched it in the theater when it was out,

1139
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,920
and that movie is how many years old? Now?

1140
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it is seventy seven, so in two

1141
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,360
years will be the fifties, so it's a forty it's

1142
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,719
been out for forty eight years, that's all.

1143
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: I can't believe I watched that in the theater. Wow.

1144
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:09,840
And I have to watch that again because it's just

1145
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,039
been too long and I've only watched it one time.

1146
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good. I actually, the last time I

1147
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,239
had COVID and I was shut down and everything, I

1148
01:04:18,519 --> 01:04:21,920
wrote a sequel, The Close Encounters of the Third Kind, And.

1149
01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:24,159
Speaker 3: Is it Close Encounters of the Fourth Kind?

1150
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it was very imaginative. I can't believe you guessed that, Yes,

1151
01:04:28,119 --> 01:04:32,039
that was the title, and it was just an exercise,

1152
01:04:32,239 --> 01:04:34,079
but it was something that I wanted to kind of

1153
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:36,519
do and extend it because I just love that film.

1154
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:39,119
It's so much fun and humor, very humorous.

1155
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, there's a lot of funny things. I

1156
01:04:41,239 --> 01:04:41,719
remember that.

1157
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: What do you think about the chances that NHI, if real,

1158
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:49,679
would be evolved past needing spacecraft at all?

1159
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,159
Speaker 2: Boy men in Paulus Man, He's brave.

1160
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:56,159
Speaker 1: No always always great questions.

1161
01:04:56,440 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's or I kind of get into the

1162
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,519
gray area when it comes to like some of these

1163
01:05:07,199 --> 01:05:09,880
the experiments that are done, the testing that are done

1164
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,679
on humans by NHIS. You know, do they really need

1165
01:05:13,719 --> 01:05:16,199
to be doing that at that point? Where's the tri quarter?

1166
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,079
You know, why aren't they just using that? Yeah? I

1167
01:05:22,679 --> 01:05:26,239
you know, I have a theory about these crafts. I

1168
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,159
think that they're that they're not really traveling. I think

1169
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:34,159
that they're just you know, skipping time. But we've heard

1170
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:36,400
that before. But what I haven't heard enough of is

1171
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,960
that I think that they might be traveling the astral plane.

1172
01:05:40,159 --> 01:05:42,599
It's a fun theory that I have because sometimes people

1173
01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:47,679
say they see deceased loved ones on craft or near craft.

1174
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,880
And so if you could figure out a way like

1175
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,559
ghosts appear and disappear from one section of a house

1176
01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:56,320
to another, if you could figure that out, you know,

1177
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:57,840
you probably need some type of.

1178
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: A holding.

1179
01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:03,199
Speaker 2: Structure so that you could transport people from here to there.

1180
01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:06,079
But you know, these crafts, they're not shaped in a

1181
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:09,039
way that has wings or exhaust or whatever. So they're

1182
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:12,079
just kind of this holding seemed to be this holding vehicle,

1183
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:15,960
this this this space to contain whatever is going on

1184
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,880
inside it, but it doesn't seem to be you know, propelling.

1185
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,360
I think it's skipping time. And the question is why

1186
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,920
do they do these slow rolls by humans and kind

1187
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,920
of check them out, you know and everything you've seen

1188
01:06:28,039 --> 01:06:32,440
the furry you know, dice in my rear view mirror. Yeah, baby,

1189
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,760
and then they continue and they just take off. So

1190
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,599
m yeah.

1191
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: Interesting.

1192
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:42,639
Speaker 1: So Terrence, once again, why can't they just say aliens

1193
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:45,519
came here? Inner ship? We don't know why? Let's all

1194
01:06:45,519 --> 01:06:49,360
figure it out together? Who? Who? Who? They?

1195
01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: Us?

1196
01:06:50,679 --> 01:06:51,199
Speaker 3: All of us?

1197
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,639
Speaker 1: Is that? I'm not really.

1198
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 2: Sure the government maybe saying the gunment. I can't Okay,

1199
01:06:57,719 --> 01:07:00,400
all right, why can't they just say aliens came here?

1200
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,599
On a ship. We don't know why, let's all figure

1201
01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:07,440
it out together. In other words, why can't wait saying wait,

1202
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,119
why can't.

1203
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,039
Speaker 1: We why can't we work together trying to figure out

1204
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:11,880
or it's us?

1205
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, man, there's so many different theories

1206
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,119
and stuff. You can't park it with one. Once you

1207
01:07:19,199 --> 01:07:24,199
do that, you're stuck. You're you're Yeah, that's that's the

1208
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:27,360
mistake that I've made before. I start out thinking, you know,

1209
01:07:27,639 --> 01:07:30,599
like everyone from another planet that I'm reading old Jacquesvlai's books, Oh,

1210
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:33,199
they're fromnother dimension that I'm reading, Michael Master's books, other

1211
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,159
from the future, And so I think it's all the above.

1212
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:41,519
Speaker 1: It could be or none of the above. Yeah, another

1213
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:44,599
one from Mendy here, do you think that time travel,

1214
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,679
if time travel was real, it would be regulated by

1215
01:07:47,719 --> 01:07:51,639
the DOE due to the amount of energy generated required

1216
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:52,960
Department of Energy.

1217
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, that's assuming that they're using our physics and our

1218
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,400
physics whenever we do anything that's mechanical or it exerts

1219
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:06,639
a crap load of energy bitcoins to generate bitcoins, it's

1220
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:09,239
a whole bunch of energy. I don't think that that's

1221
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,800
a problem for what they're doing the way that they're

1222
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,760
doing it. I don't think that the energy is an issue.

1223
01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:19,319
Speaker 1: All right, I'm putting these up without really reading them first,

1224
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,319
just to get through them. Could it be a reason

1225
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:26,800
why the government don't want us to know the truth,

1226
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,680
doesn't want us to know the truth about non humans

1227
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:34,319
here possibly living among us, that they cannot protect us

1228
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:40,640
from what we might want our taxes back. We want

1229
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,520
to talk about it. Do you understand that question?

1230
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a stab at the heart of

1231
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:46,439
the question.

1232
01:08:47,119 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 3: Okay, which.

1233
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: I Yeah, that is a that is a bump that

1234
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,760
if the government comes out and says we've had any

1235
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,359
type of communication relationship with them, it's going to be

1236
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:07,239
what about the experiencer problem? You know, the abduction problem. Yeah,

1237
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:08,880
that's going to be a big bump for people. Why

1238
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,560
can't you protect us? I hear the thing all the time, Well,

1239
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,319
we negotiate with them. We got technology, and we allowed

1240
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,319
them to come here and to you know a cost.

1241
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:23,520
Are are you know fellow humans? I still haven't seen

1242
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:28,640
that technology displayed. A lot of people say fiber optics

1243
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,960
that came from them, Like, okay, well there's.

1244
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: Three people that ended it.

1245
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:37,159
Speaker 2: The fiber optics how about a little pride for human inventiveness? Okay,

1246
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:39,000
are we really going to give that to people who

1247
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:40,920
didn't have anything to do with it? So?

1248
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, funny, Now this duck head's asking how about Tom

1249
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:51,239
Delong's claims. I think that's authentic. I heard that he

1250
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:55,119
was talking the other day something new about UFOs. Have

1251
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:55,840
you heard about that?

1252
01:09:57,239 --> 01:09:57,279
Speaker 2: No?

1253
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,520
Speaker 1: Someone someone y. I think he recorded a tape of

1254
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,520
himself talking about something. I don't know anything about that,

1255
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:10,079
but it's interesting. Maybe we maybe we can look into

1256
01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:14,800
it at some point. Here's another question here, Dean. What

1257
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,720
is the best thing and worst thing in filmmaking? Oh?

1258
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, we'll start with the worst thing first. The

1259
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,479
worst is that it's the most expensive art form in

1260
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,520
the history of man.

1261
01:10:28,119 --> 01:10:29,079
Speaker 1: So I'm sure.

1262
01:10:29,119 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, think of any other art form in the history

1263
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,000
of mankind where in order to do some art if

1264
01:10:35,039 --> 01:10:37,720
you can call it art in quotes with people in capes,

1265
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:40,399
that it costs you three hundred and fifty million dollars,

1266
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:44,079
you know. So it's very, very hard to get these

1267
01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:47,720
things funded. Technology has gotten definitely cheaper, and so I

1268
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,640
was able to do a lot of self funding with

1269
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:54,479
these documentaries that I did. But so that's that's the

1270
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,760
hardest thing is the economics of it. The best thing

1271
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,279
about it is that we do have that technology where

1272
01:10:59,279 --> 01:11:03,119
we can show pretty mu anything. We're not limited in

1273
01:11:03,199 --> 01:11:06,920
any way. But it's also really fun to pull together

1274
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,720
a troop of people who are all under hopefully the

1275
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,640
same spell of the story and being able to see

1276
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,399
that materialized. So we have, you know, an idea, and

1277
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,439
we're able to show you on a screen that metamorphosis

1278
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,359
is pretty badass. And it still gets me exciting, gets

1279
01:11:24,359 --> 01:11:25,000
me up in the morning.

1280
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,199
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1281
01:11:26,279 --> 01:11:29,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was involved in a film one time, years ago,

1282
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,439
and it was so much fun. We'd we had rented,

1283
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,079
we had actors and rented you know, a school for

1284
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:37,960
alien was this alien?

1285
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 3: Sorry that was that was the title.

1286
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, it was so much I just had

1287
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,560
so much fun, so much fun. Okay, another question from

1288
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,560
Mendi here, what figure in upology do you both think

1289
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,279
has been the most beneficial helpful to the topic.

1290
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:56,279
Speaker 3: Good question.

1291
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,359
Speaker 1: Okay, you go past past or present?

1292
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:00,399
Speaker 2: H uh.

1293
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: You know, someone asked me who would I trust today

1294
01:12:04,279 --> 01:12:06,960
if they wanted to tell me something, And the first

1295
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,600
thought came to my mind was Dave Marler, who's actually

1296
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,399
coming up on the show. He's been a guest many

1297
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:16,199
times just because he's such a solid guy. So I

1298
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,319
think past, if we can include the past, I think

1299
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,600
someone you mentioned earlier, John Mack, was someone that I

1300
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:29,600
think really uh did a lot, and you know, Stanton Freeman,

1301
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:32,079
we only lost him. I don't know, has it been

1302
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,359
five years now, I can't remember how long it's been.

1303
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,960
But Stanton Freeman did a lot. I did a lot

1304
01:12:38,039 --> 01:12:42,359
for the topic and uh, you know, put uh put

1305
01:12:42,399 --> 01:12:46,600
a lot of you know, skepticism to rest in the

1306
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:50,079
ways that he was able to present things, uh, you know,

1307
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:53,920
out there. So I think both Stanton Freeman, John Mack

1308
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,479
or the two my two that I think of right

1309
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:57,039
off the bat.

1310
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna throw Jay Allen Heinek in there.

1311
01:13:02,039 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, good one.

1312
01:13:04,279 --> 01:13:11,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also gonna throw in there. I mean, you

1313
01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:16,159
have a lot of people who have provided pieces that

1314
01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:17,840
do seem to fit together in the puzzle and have

1315
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:23,119
helped out that aren't exactly you know, full hardcore eufologist

1316
01:13:24,119 --> 01:13:27,319
like Leslie Kane. I think you know that the article

1317
01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:33,680
that went out certainly helped move things in the right direction.

1318
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,000
Getting that out in the way that it did. That

1319
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:40,000
was certainly beneficial. But as far as someone who is

1320
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,800
you know out there, who's who's you know has a

1321
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,760
string theory a theory for everything, no one really has that.

1322
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:54,840
It's it's it's bifurcated, it's split up. Stam Friedman definitely

1323
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,840
was great. He had pieces that he was you know,

1324
01:13:58,279 --> 01:14:01,960
texture side of the phenomenon that was showing. So yeah,

1325
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,479
it's a kind of a collection. So I can't I

1326
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:04,920
can't narrow it down to one person.

1327
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is I didn't see this question because

1328
01:14:12,359 --> 01:14:14,960
it wasn't in caps. But are you familiar with doctor

1329
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:19,960
Beatrice Verioly very old? Yes, she has been on the

1330
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,159
show in the past, and I've been in touch with

1331
01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:26,239
her the last couple of days, and I think her

1332
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,640
recent findings are amazing, and I have invited her to

1333
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,239
back and hopefully we'll get it together and she'll be

1334
01:14:34,319 --> 01:14:37,239
back on again. But yeah, I was very impressed with

1335
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,600
her interview recently, and I had known I had heads

1336
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,880
up on this when I was down with the Disco

1337
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,479
Brothers a few weeks ago. Someone with who was working

1338
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:53,000
with Beatrice was there from Stockholm. He was from Stockholm,

1339
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,560
and he said, keep your eyes open. You're going to

1340
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,439
have a really big announcement in the next week or two.

1341
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,520
And that's really what Beatrice came out with, that these

1342
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,880
things were happening back in the nineteen fifties. They're all

1343
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,479
on the plates, and they're ard artifacts on the plates

1344
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:13,600
in the fifties, and they were geocentric about forty two

1345
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:20,039
thousand kilometers out from Earth, and they were also around

1346
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:24,680
during UFO events, atomic events and things like that. You know,

1347
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,479
maybe some of it's coincidence, but for it's all happened together,

1348
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,159
it's quite a story. So hopefully we can get her

1349
01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:36,560
on the show. Nice, are you familiar with Beatrice?

1350
01:15:38,359 --> 01:15:41,399
Speaker 2: She makes hell of chocolate chip cookies. That's the only

1351
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:42,079
thing I know about.

1352
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 3: No, No, she's a great scientist.

1353
01:15:48,079 --> 01:15:51,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot of Again, there are people

1354
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:55,880
who contribute in different ways and add to it. When

1355
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,039
someone is saying that something's going to be coming, or

1356
01:15:58,039 --> 01:16:01,039
they're these events and stuff. That's that has happened a

1357
01:16:01,079 --> 01:16:03,880
lot with regards to you know, when the bombs were

1358
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,079
first being tested, people report seeing these crafts and stuff. Again,

1359
01:16:07,239 --> 01:16:09,479
which kind of leads to the time travel thing. If

1360
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,239
you're you know, Mike Masters, and they're coming from the future.

1361
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:13,880
They're coming back to watch this thing and go, oh,

1362
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,239
let's go, you know, check out what these you know,

1363
01:16:17,359 --> 01:16:21,760
what our ancestors did. But as far as something coming

1364
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,479
like within dates, whenever I hear dates and stuff, I

1365
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,479
get really cagy. I was on a panel at Contact

1366
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,760
in the Desert with a whole bunch of uh, you know,

1367
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,199
the usual suspects, and and someone threw out and said,

1368
01:16:36,399 --> 01:16:39,760
I'm being told that twenty twenty seven something, Yeah, it's

1369
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,239
going to happen. And I, you know, said, if I

1370
01:16:43,319 --> 01:16:45,680
bet against every date that was ever thrown out, I

1371
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,359
could finance all of my movies. It's it's it's a

1372
01:16:49,399 --> 01:16:52,359
moving target. It's a moving target, you know.

1373
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: If this thing well, there's always been predictions of the

1374
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,279
end of the world or this or that, and then

1375
01:16:57,319 --> 01:17:00,239
it's always moved out a little for one reason or other.

1376
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,479
There was a case where all these people thought they

1377
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,279
were going to be picked up in a spacecraft. I

1378
01:17:06,279 --> 01:17:09,359
can't remember it the sixties or seventies, and they all

1379
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,920
quit their jobs, and you know what I mean, they

1380
01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:16,039
kept getting pushed out. Yeah, No, not that one, not

1381
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:21,119
that one in particular. There was another situation where yeah,

1382
01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:24,680
and you know, these people were out of work and

1383
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,479
you know, destitute, thinking that they were going to be

1384
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,760
taken away and saved. It's kind of sad that. So

1385
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,600
I don't know, I don't have any any faith in

1386
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,359
any of that either. Here's another question, and I don't know.

1387
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,800
This is kind of a hut potato. Who, in your opinion,

1388
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,960
are the real fake whistleblowers out of everyone that came forward,

1389
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,800
you know, I mean, I don't know, if we want

1390
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,720
to get into answering something like that, we could say

1391
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,439
the wrong thing or get someone pretty upset. I don't know.

1392
01:17:53,800 --> 01:18:00,159
Speaker 2: It's I'll just say this in general, there are are

1393
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:02,560
a lot of people who have come out in this

1394
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:07,520
field as anything from someone who's a whistleblower to someone

1395
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,760
who is purporting to be a UFO guru, and there's

1396
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:17,399
usually some truth to it, and then the rest is manufactured,

1397
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:21,000
hype built upon it and becomes its own, you know, industry.

1398
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:23,119
We were talking about this earlier. It's very tough to

1399
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:28,159
make money in UFOs. It's not something that the government funds.

1400
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,680
It's something that we go out and we do because

1401
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,479
of our own curiosity. No one funds anyone writing a book.

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You know, Jacques Valley doesn't get funding to write his books.

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It's it's us, you know, wanting to do this because

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01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,199
we want to do it. However, you can make money

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01:18:45,199 --> 01:18:49,199
if you're doing tours and stuff and everything, and you're

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01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:52,079
creating a kind of cottage industry. Are you're purporting to

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be the person who has all the answers? And so

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01:18:55,399 --> 01:18:57,359
anyone who says that, you know, I just I asked.

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I keep asking the question to people whenever they're asking

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who should I follow? Who should I do this? And

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then and I go, why do you need a guru?

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You don't. All the information is available as free is

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01:19:09,079 --> 01:19:13,520
out there, and so you know, someone that has nothing

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01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,359
to do with the UFO community is going to find

1415
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something interesting as well and add that to it. So,

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,159
you know, let's follow Mitchell calcu, Let's follow other people

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01:19:21,159 --> 01:19:24,199
who are working, you know, adjacent to this that are

1418
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:27,680
you know lex Fredman a great podcast I listened to.

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01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:31,600
He had on this gentleman who was just throwing down

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01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,840
left and right on you know, on the phenomenon and

1421
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what he believes in everything, and so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, interesting. Well I'm just going to pop a

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01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:46,600
couple more questions, and we'll call it tonight. Is it

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possible that what some call nhi tech is actually human

1425
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:57,600
but divinely inspired by those in what we would call

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:02,319
an afterlife? Would that after life be evolving along sign

1427
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:03,960
us parallel to us? Wow?

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Speaker 3: That one is pretty pretty deep.

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01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So why are we here? Right? That's that's all

1430
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,399
these questions come back to that. Why are we here?

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01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,880
What is the experience? What is the human experience? For

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I'm kind of a little bit of a Buddhist and

1433
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:26,600
I like the idea. Again, I believe in things. I

1434
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,479
don't know things. When it comes to this level of esoteric,

1435
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,640
I think that we're all here. It's a school, right,

1436
01:20:35,279 --> 01:20:38,640
people reincarnate. I believe in that. I believe that we

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01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,479
come back and we're learning and we're evolving, and at

1438
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,720
some point we're going to get to the point where

1439
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,840
we've evolved greed out of us. So we don't need

1440
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,600
to have a yacht because no one else does and

1441
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,800
look at me and my yacht. You know. We need

1442
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,600
to get to a place where we see someone hurting

1443
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,520
and we go, oh, I'm hurting as well. That person's hurting.

1444
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:02,039
So I feel like ultimately we're going to get to

1445
01:21:02,039 --> 01:21:04,199
a place where we evolve and we won't need to

1446
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:07,119
be in the physical form and we will transcend this.

1447
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,159
And so this is kind of one big school, one

1448
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:14,600
big you know, playground, if you will. And so I

1449
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,600
feel like, you know, when it comes to the afterlife.

1450
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,960
You know, it's funny because people look at at angels,

1451
01:21:21,159 --> 01:21:24,640
these cherubs, and what are they these little things with

1452
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,439
big heads, because babies have big heads and stuff, and

1453
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,880
so you know, Pasulca Dinah Pasulka has talked about that

1454
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,119
like maybe they're conflating the two. But I hope that

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,279
kind of answers what do you think? Yeah?

1456
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 1: I think that was a very good answer, much better

1457
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,159
than I could possibly think of.

1458
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:43,199
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1459
01:21:44,039 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: All right, last question of the night question, will disclosure

1460
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:52,199
come from the government, military industrial complex or from NHI

1461
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:57,840
showing themselves globally? Yeah, it's all speculation.

1462
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Speaker 2: A good last question because you have to define what

1463
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:01,960
is your definition of disclosure?

1464
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,079
Speaker 1: Ah?

1465
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So unless I know what that is, because if

1466
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,880
it's full disclosure, meaning yes, there are aliens here and

1467
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,640
we have you know, their craft, and we have relationships

1468
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:21,039
with them, I don't see the point of the government

1469
01:22:21,119 --> 01:22:23,840
doing that unless there's some agenda at hand. I think

1470
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ultimately I'll say this, I think it's in the hands

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,359
of the non human, the nhis they run the show man,

1472
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,239
they run it. If they want it to happen, it's

1473
01:22:34,279 --> 01:22:37,239
going to happen. That's that's my feeling.

1474
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll put a last question up since that

1475
01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:46,439
one was tough. Do you think that all of paranormal activity, UAPs, ghosts,

1476
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,319
et cetera. Are many sides of the same coin, as

1477
01:22:49,319 --> 01:22:52,439
it were? I think.

1478
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Speaker 2: I think we like to look at life in general

1479
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:03,119
as like a stretch of fabric, and and everyone has

1480
01:23:03,119 --> 01:23:05,319
their version of what that fabric is, and it's and

1481
01:23:05,319 --> 01:23:08,760
if it's only one person's version is pretty boring. I

1482
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,000
like to imagine a fabric that has crochet in it,

1483
01:23:12,039 --> 01:23:14,239
that has some silk, and it has all these different things,

1484
01:23:14,279 --> 01:23:17,279
and I think it's all part of the human experience.

1485
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:23,079
There are people high initiates, people monks who see things

1486
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:31,079
that run across the gamut of afterlife, of extraterrestrials. So

1487
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,760
I think that when it's when we say it's all

1488
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,960
part of the same coin, I think what we're saying is,

1489
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,199
I don't know. I think it's all part of the

1490
01:23:40,239 --> 01:23:43,920
same experience, and some people are are more adept at

1491
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,600
being able to perceive it than others. But I wouldn't

1492
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,159
take that all the paranormal stuff and put it in

1493
01:23:50,199 --> 01:23:53,159
one layer and say, oh, that's one layer. I think

1494
01:23:53,279 --> 01:23:57,439
you know it's I think it's multi layers, if you.

1495
01:23:57,399 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: Will, very good, so, Dane, I think that's going to

1496
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,680
do it for tonight. So where again, your film's on

1497
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,720
the Amazon Go ahead and do you a little plug?

1498
01:24:08,039 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, the Alien Perspective and Life Beyond Earth. And

1499
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,840
again they can go to my website and they can

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01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,720
just click through and go to all those portals and

1501
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:22,159
that's that Alien perspectivemovie dot com.

1502
01:24:23,239 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Deane, Now I'm going to find out if you

1503
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:27,319
ever watched all the way to the end of one

1504
01:24:27,319 --> 01:24:30,159
of my shows. All right, everyone, we'll be back next week,

1505
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:30,960
and remember to.

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01:24:33,039 --> 01:24:41,600
Speaker 6: Keep watching, keep keep your eyes all check your eyes

1507
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,920
to this, to the lies, to the skies.

1508
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,159
Speaker 1: That's it. Okay, Yes, thank you finally watched one of

1509
01:24:49,279 --> 01:24:50,239
my shows to the end.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Dean. It's been a real blast, been.

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01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: A lot of fun.

1512
01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, brother.

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01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: All Right, all right, everyone, we'll be back next week,

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:25,079
and remember i'll say it. Keep your eyes to the sky,