Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the very first edition of pig
Skin and Burnt Ends. What does that mean? That means pigskin,
not the animal, but the ball, the football, the inflatable
football that some people like to play a game with.
And burnt ends. Could could be food, It could be fun,
It could be drinks, it could be anything I want
it to mean, because I inherited the name of that show,
and I didn't come up with it. So here we are.
Don't come at sound like Peter Brady. There each, go ahead,
pork chops and apple sauce. That voice you just heard
is one Jeff Tito Thitoff of ninety seven to one,
the fan in Columbus, Ohio, obviously here to talk about guys,
also a fan stream sports fame numerous shows up in
the buck Eye Nation.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the guy to my left over there, EGA
of America member and sport noted sports handicapper and college
football fanatic, Johnny Gerber. Hello, boys, welcome to episode one
a Big Skin and burn Ins. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get in a word in edgewise
between you two. YouTube Jaspers, as my my father would say,
Jerome Jaspers. I'm gonna try to chime in where I can,
but listen. This is gonna be fun for those those
who's tuning in to get stats and things of that nature.
Speaker 4: Probably probably not going to be the right show for you.
Speaker 1: Might be in the wrong place. That gets a smart
way to do it. Guys, go ahead and tell people
who shouldn't be listening.
Speaker 3: They all, they all should they all will be listening.
We have to give them the public what's it public?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Disclaimer that works. Disclaimer works.
Speaker 1: So look, we we've got what do we have one too?
We got six games we're gonna touch on. This program
will primarily focus around Texas based college football. We will deviate,
much like a septum occasionally uh to other states other programs,
especially when they play said Texas based college football teams.
But we're gonna talk SEC, we're gonna talk Big twelve,
we're gonna talk ACC Probably not talking a lot of
other stuff though, although we will from time to time.
Because we've got two schools that are gonna be mentioned today,
one that we're leading with that might not ever get
mentioned on this program ever again, because boys, we've got
Tarleton State talk and we've got Lumberjack talk. Which Johnny
I know is near and dear to your heart.
Speaker 3: CFA axem accfa. The Lumberjacks. Got to get the lumberjacks
in there. You gotta get the the lumberjackson. Who is
Who is the famous football player that went to SFA?
Speaker 1: Uh? Jeb Brown?
Speaker 4: Close? Close? He was the famous basketball player.
Speaker 1: That's true? Yeah, yeah, yeah, who went to SFA. I
don't have it on the top of my tongue. Ah well.
Speaker 3: No, no, almost give that now, come on, that's the
trivia question for people. Question super Bowl champion, super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: Dan Marino, No, oh, he didn't win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: My main man, my main man, and having a lot
of fun playing golf with him and drinking. Larry Sinners
Larry Yeah, the full back, full back, Larry Centers. Larry Centers.
I think he should be in the Hall of Fame.
I think I think he went a Super Bowl New England.
Larry Centers played for New England. He did. He played
for a lot of teams and a great guy, loves
to play golf, just just have has had a lot
of fun.
Speaker 4: I've had a lot of fun with Larry.
Speaker 3: So just when you mentioned s f A Steven f
Austin in Nakadoches, Texas is the home of Larry Centners
Brown and Jeb Brown and Jeb Brown.
Speaker 1: Home of Jeb Brown, the notorious j E B.
Speaker 5: Larry Center is always the guy you drafted in fantasy football.
If you did not draft running backs early, you picked
him up later on because he caught passes. He has
the cast as big as Tim's head, and that's very,
very big. Let me ask a question, Gerb, would you
rather have a million dollars or Tim's head full of nickels?
Speaker 3: Well, the first part's fine, I'm already there, uh full
of What do you mean by.
Speaker 5: For Tim's head full of nickels? What's worth more a
million dollars? Would Tim's head if you took it off
and filled it with nickels, would it hold more than
million dollars? No, it Would's.
Speaker 1: Wrong with my head. Nobody has never said a big.
Speaker 6: Because there's a lot of water in that head and
there's no water in here. There might be some burn
ends in there. Vodka vodka exactly, but the flavored vodka
Tito's Texas handmade vodka about.
Speaker 1: By the way, for our new listeners, And that's each
and every one of you. Because we've never done a
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If you guys are into fantasy football, go to head
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for you guys on a weekly basis in that weird
adult playground called Fantasy football. So boys, Tarleton State is
on the map this week in Week one because they
beat Army in double overtime for their second ever win
versus an FBS school. And this was a crazy one.
We had to give Tarlton our props. Look, Tarleton's not
too far from me here in the DFW area down there,
Stevenville area, Blend College, Texas A and M school system.
It's all related. It's all very ancestual, as Johnny's favorite
word i'll throw out there. But you had Brad Larson
making a thirty seven yard field goal on the second
possession of double overtime to give Tarlton State the thirty
to twenty seven win over Army. And I say that
because things went great for one of the kickers things
didn't go very well for the other kicker boys. At
the end of regulation, you had the Army quarterback Dwayne
Coleman leave the game with an injury after he scrambled
and got tattooed back up, kel Helms took over. He
brought the Black Knights into field goal position, but Dawson Jones,
in his first ever collegiate football game, missed a forty
three yard attempt in the closing seconds, sending the game
into overtime. Both teams made the first field goal in overtime,
and then Jones missed a thirty five yarder on the
Black Knight's second possession of overtime. As a kicker, literally
you have one job. And we talk about kickers all
the time and at every level, right you literally had
one job and you didn't fall one. You falled twice
and literally lost the game for your team. Army boys
are kickers, football players, and should they all just be shot?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, kickers, that's what I mean. They have got
the most pressure and the least work to do.
Speaker 2: But they were.
Speaker 5: Army was a two touchdown favorite going into that game.
I can't believe they've lost that game, And there were
people that bet the money line on that that like,
oh yeah, it's a sure thing, and they get killed
on that. I just the kicker thing. It's it's got
to the point where kicking is so easy. It seems
like it's hard to not have a good kicker on
your team.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at something like that, and going
back to a little bit of Charleton State, you're looking
at a team that you know, just stepped up to
that Division IE level and playing some of these D
one teams. But also you have to look all the
all the big, big group of talent of talented football
high school football in Texas. Don't be surprised if you
hear a little bit more of Tarlington State maybe getting
those two or three star kids or maybe getting a
lot of these kids in the transfer portal. That's what
they've been doing in basketball. I mean, for people that
don't know, Gillespie is their basketball coach at Tarlton, Billie
Gillespie is their basketball coach.
Speaker 2: So you're Kentucky head coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're looking at.
Speaker 3: That model that they might take over in terms of
what they've kind of replicated in their basketball program into
their football program, getting these transfer kids stepping up to
that D one and this is that whole big group
of so many good high school football kids in Texas.
Don't be surprised if you see I'm not saying they're
going to be a powerhouse by any means, but don't
be surprised if they continue to knock off some kids
and getting some of this talent that maybe could be featured.
I mean, they had a kid that played there last year,
their first first year in Division one that just made
the Patriots as a wide receiver. So you're looking at
a lot of a lot of talent that potentially could
be funneled to Tarlton State. So don't be surprised if
they continue to be surprising people.
Speaker 5: The way that the structure is now in college in
college sports is it's like a baseball minor league system.
Guys go to the major league level, which are the
guys who go to like the four or five star
guys that go and play like Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, whatever,
and if they don't pan out there, they go down
to Triple A. And Triple A is that next level
where you might see someone like Charles say they will
pick off some of those guys or Double A or
single A whatever is you go down though, But a
school like charge State's gonna be able to pick off
some of those guys that you'll see a guy who's like, oh,
this guy was a four star recruit for Indiana or
whatever or Texas A and M and didn't get the
playing time or whatever, and then what gets demoted And
no disrespect targe.
Speaker 2: Everytime you said no respect to means disrespectful.
Speaker 5: No, just suspect Chargine State though, But they're gonna get
a guy though, who was once highly regarded enough to
be a D one top prospect who now will will
thrive down there. And it's mentioned the basketball thing. G
Leslie's got it, got it. It's a huge advantage haveing
him down there for that, but the football program also
can benefit that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at if you look at the
kind of the back end of it being so close
to Fort Worth and North Crowley winning the state championship
for Texas, I mean, you could get some of those
kids that's only an hour away from from Stevensville or
hour and a half from Stevensville. You could get some
of those kids that may be playing that Fort Worth
area that hey, they don't want to go far from home,
or they know they can play, or maybe you know,
Tartan State's not really getting a bunch of money, but
potentially could be getting some of that nil money that
these kids can maybe don't want to sit for two
years and even though they're high end, they could go
right in there and star. And I think just the
evolution of make seeing the seeing the success of a
guy making the Patriots coming from Charlton State, I think
it's gonna I think, like I said, I think they're
going to surprise some people and they're gonna get a
lot of They're gonna get a lot more talent going
there than what people think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so kudos to the Tarleton State Texans as they're
known here the name but whatever. Yeah right, Hey, that's
the Texans before Houston was to.
Speaker 2: The Ohio State. Ohios.
Speaker 1: Go ahead that you know what's better than whatever that
travesty is that they are.
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: The hell is a buckeye, it's a nut. Oh so
you're named after a nut?
Speaker 4: And how is that it's called the fans? They're nuts?
Speaker 1: Yes they are. Yeah, I don't think that's what that means.
But boys, speaking of those nuts, I mean the right
team won. I'm not gonna lie. Yes, this is the
Texas based college football program. However, I will state my
allegiance right now, and it is not the Longhorns. As
many of you probably know.
Speaker 4: Win win for you, Tim, that game was a win win.
It didn't matter it.
Speaker 1: Was it didn't I don't know that it didn't matter.
It felt good to for the Longhorns to lose. But
you have your number one versus number three. And I
was corrected by the great Tim May in Columbus. He said,
you know, if you saying their number three, you're looking
at the wrong pole, right this same pole as everybody else.
Speaker 2: You would one three in another the number three.
Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes will be number three, no more. I
don't know that they'll be number one.
Speaker 4: But they were number one in the Columbus dispatch, so
it doesn't really map Glumbus y Yeah, Rumbus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, number one everywhere. But you know, it was a
game heading into the heading into the horseshoe. All of
the hype, like, I don't know that I've seen this
much hype in a week one game between two teams.
I don't care where they were ranked, because you had
all of the storylines. You had the rematch of the playoff,
you had but but it's it's but it's really not.
You have two new quarterbacks, you had fourteen players replaced,
I think on the Longhorns team, twelve players replaced on
the Buckeyes team. It wasn't really a rematch, but it
was especially for the fans, which is what matters, right.
And then you had, of course the additional thrown in
storyline of Arch Manning, who's a Manning who's been this hyped,
poor hyped kid for the last five six years of
his career, going back to high school. Due then you
had Julian Saying, who was heavily recruited by literally every
team in the country, including Texas, and ended up in Columbus.
And who who you know it Stark knows Archie or
knows arch everybody knows Julian. It was just there's so
many storylines going into this game. And then we finally
got to play the game, and I think exactly what
we thought was going to happen, except for the Texas fans,
I think happened where you had two teams, And again
Tim May on the Tim May Show said it very
eloquently this was game. This game was gonna be clunky,
and I think it was too. Again, first game of
the season, no preseason, and he saw two good teams
battling out the better team. I think in the long
run one Tito.
Speaker 5: Thoughts, Yeah, So Ohio State comes into this game and
they've got to replace obviously their starting quarterback. Yeah, Julian saying,
coming in who is vastly inexperienced as far as game
experience goes. I had to replace two guys got drafted
early the NFL at the running back positions, and a
Mecca book is gone. They've offensive lineman and the loss
defensive side, all this stuff. They've also had to place
two coordinators. The offensive coordinator Brian Hartline was the receivers coach,
now is the OC making the calls. And then they
brought in Matt Patricia to replace Jim Knowles who went
to Penn State. More on that in another podcast. But nonetheless,
the defense, though, is what really set the tone for
this game, and Matt Patrician did a fantastic job of
masking the coverages and did a lot of things to
confuse arch banding. What's interesting to me, though, is that
when you look at.
Speaker 1: The game.
Speaker 5: Last year, Ohio State and Texas both had experienced quarterbacks
in that game at Ohio State one. This year they
both have inexperienced quarterbacks and Ohio State one.
Speaker 2: I think that says a lot.
Speaker 5: I'm not ripping sark, but I'm just saying I think
it says a lot about Ohio State's coaching staff and
their philosophies that I feel like Ohio State's staff has
out coached Texas's staff. Now two games in a row,
Texas is gonna be good this year. Look, there was
great against Ohio State. Ohio State did play conservatively. They
and they admitted that they were not going to take
a lot of chances. You will see a different Ohio
State team the next couple weeks against Grambling, the OU,
than the bye week, than Washington. But like Texas is not.
People say, oh, the arch May looks bad. Look, Ohio
State's defense is a lot to cause that archmanys. We
just find they'll be better. The arch maning you saw
on Saturday is a lot different than the arch May
of you see. Come playoff time.
Speaker 1: Johnny, you're a Texas fan, what are your thoughts on
Archs performance?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're looking at two teams.
Speaker 3: You're looking at two teams and certainly I think are
going to be there at the end and certainly be
in the playoffs. And what they look like now is
nowhere close to what they're going to look like at
the end of the year. Everyone wants to get on
Arch's stats and stuff like that, but you're going into
an environment that was extremely difficult, and you had a
chance to tie the game up or getting close to
the game if you're not stopped at the end zone.
Everybody's harping on Arch and he didn't perform, and I
know his percentages of incompletions. He only threw thirty nine
percent completions or thirty eight percent, the lowest statu of
any quarterback University of Texas starting. But you also have
to give credit to first off, as Tito said, the
coaching staff the Ohio State did a masterful job in
terms of how they not only had the defense and
Patricia coming in and gain planning for them. But I'm
going to give credit to hertline first time coming in
as an offensive coordinator and goes to a fresh or
first time starting quarterback in an environment even though that
you are at home that basically didn't lose the game
and gave him some opportunities and opened up the game
a little bit more to make him feel comfortable than
I thought Sark did with arch Manning. And you know,
I don't want to get too caught up on arch
Manning stats and going into.
Speaker 4: A place like that.
Speaker 3: Would it look a little bit different if Julian sam
was going into Texas? Would those strats be relatively he said, yeah, probably,
But if you look at it, I'm going to give
I'm going to give a little bit more blame to
Sark in terms of not giving the ability to doing
what Ryan Day or Brian art Line did to open
it up and make this make this kid feel comfortable.
So listen, was it anticipated probably was going to be
a defensive game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly was.
Speaker 3: But I think Arch is getting too much of criticism
in terms of how he played. And I'll go back
to say, maybe Sark didn't put him in the best
positions to allow him to feel comfortable and open up
what Brian Hartline did, the offensive coordinator for a Highest
State did for Julian Sand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought we'd see somewhat if if we
were going to have an offensive game, which I don't
know how you could expect a huge offensive game with
two brand new quarterbacks, two really new teams, as we discussed,
and two good defenses going against each other. But I
thought you'd see more Ryan Wingo for Texas involved. I
thought for sure you'd see more Jeremiah Smith involved in
the passing game for the Buckeyes. But again, two top
notch defenses. I think that was the goal for each
defense was to shut down the star wide receiver excuse
me for the other team, and that did not bode
well for either quarterback. They kind of had to go
to you know, SECA Reid's here and there, and they're inexperienced,
so you expect some of that. But in the long run, yeah,
out coached for sure by the entire coaching staff in Columbus,
out coach Sark and his guys. And look, the hatred
against arch Manning is baffling to me. Look, dude, it's
it's he's a kid. It's his first start against the
national championship, national champion team on the road, in a
hostile environment, against a top defense in the nation, and
you're gonna give him crap because he was a little
shook like I get I get it.
Speaker 5: Look media hyped up arch Manning. What arch Maning didn't
go out there the sickest chest out and say look.
Speaker 2: At me, I'm the best, I'm the guy.
Speaker 5: It was the media that that really hyped up arch
Manning because he's Manning and because he was hyped up
coming to hype out of high school and stuff, all
that stuff, and like all the pressure on him was not.
He didn't go out there and like and say I'm
the guy. Other people did. Texas is defense is legit
and they shut that Ohio State Julius Sam played a
very conservative game. He looked like, as I said, Craig
Krenzel out, this felt like the O two Buckeye team.
Cren's like a very conservative game manager for Julian what
he was in a great defense that they're gonna open
up coming forward. Now they're gonna open up against Grambling
and Ou and then they they'll see what they look
like a Washington. But it's it was such a clo
If Texas kicks field goals in those situations where they
had opportunities and didn't and went for it, if they
make field goals there, this could have been a much
different outcome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you look at if you look at
to kind of go back a little bit, is you
look at the biggest strengths for Ohio State and Texas
is their defensive line, And what's the and what what
does what does a great running game give a quarterback
that doesn't have a lot of experience for just starting
a great running game? Well, they couldn't do that. They
didn't have big plays because both defensive lines were so
good that they kind of shut down the run and
made them kind of really pass and put the pressure
on on both inexperienced quarterbacks. It just seemed like Ohio
State did a little bit better than what Texas did
against Julian saying.
Speaker 5: It's hard to believe, but it was a damn good
fourteen to seven game. You know, like Colls foall. Now
you think about it's like, oh, you have lots of
scoring and stuff. This was a low scoring game. Ohio
State made zero turnovers, had zero turnovers, had two penalties.
Obviously Texas had a couple of stakes here and there,
but it was a pretty clean game by and large.
Speaker 2: Fourteen great defenses.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, if you look, I mean five penalties for
Ohio State. Two of them thirty for fifty yards. Two
of them were thirty yards and no turnovers for the
first game of the year against a top five team.
That's pretty that's pretty damn good for Ohio State. I mean,
hats off to them playing discipline, and again I'm going
to go back to the coaching staff and say they
did a masterful job in terms of game planning first year,
no matter if you're a to shoe or doesn't matter
where you go.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M against the UTSA road Runners and
it's still weird for me to think of UTSA having
a football program, But here we are, and they're not horrible.
They've been pretty good over the course of the last
couple of years as a somewhat new program. As usual,
my Aggies play down to the level of their competition
and give everyone at Kyle Field and elsewhere watching on
TV near heart attacks, as this one was as close
as twenty one to seventeen Aggies, What are you doing,
Mike Elco, But the the Aggies run away with it late.
I guess kind of forty two to twenty four as
your final. The Aggies go to one and oh Roadrunners
at oh to one. Marcel Reid your new starter in
Aggie Land as Connor Wigman now plays for the Houston Cougars.
May or his name come up here in a little bit.
But a career four a career high four touchdowns for
Marcel Reid. Casey Concepcion made his Aggie's debut. He had
a TD catch and returned to punt for another touchdow
down in his Aggie's debut. The Aggie's at number nineteen.
I don't know how far you're going to climb in
the in the rankings when you beat TSA but a
win is a win. Robert Henry Junior had a seventy
five yard touchdown run on the first play of the
second half of the Roadrunners that cut the lead to
twenty one to seventeen. And I remember looking at the TV, like,
here we go again? Is this Jimbo's team? Still? Is
Jimbo Fisher coaching this team? I don't know what's happening
with Mike Elcho. I don't know what's happening with the Aggies.
There is no way that the Roadrunners should have played
A and M this close. I will always have questions.
I don't care who the coach is Arci Slocum could
come back, and I will have questions about how this
thing is run, how this program is run. And it's
now gotten to the point where it's such a far
stretch of time going back twenty five thirty years, where
this thing never seems to play up to the level
that you think it will. With the talent that with
the guys they have on this team, even with some
of the coaches you have on the staff, offensive geniuses,
defensive geniuses, this thing never seems to be able to impress.
And I'll never know why, neither one of you guys
or Aggie's fans. I would like y'all's outside perspective on
why this thing gets messed up so easily.
Speaker 5: So Robert Henry Junior and up with sixteen carriages for
one to seventy seven and the two touchdowns you need
to take a take away the seventy five yard run,
it's still a damn good stat line being fifteen for
one or two at that point. Sure, I have a
hard time understanding why it is that A and M
has so many swings and misses on head coaches when
you've got the money they've got, and if you think
back in God. Okay, I'm dating myself. Actually I'm dating
Gerb when I say this, because Gerb's old. But there
was a time when they were on the brink of
hiring Beau sham Beckler from Michigan in the early to
mid eighties, like eighty three eighty for what ever was
I wasn't born yet, Nat whatever, don't, don't, don't.
Speaker 2: We're not doing this today, Gerb.
Speaker 5: Anyway, they almost they like they had sham Beckler on
the brink of taking the job because they could throw
a lot of money. We know A and M's got
a ton of money. They could throw a lot of
money at somebody. And sham Beckler said, now I'm staying
at Michigan. Now I stayed there. But they've had so
many swings and misses on college on head coaches, and
I don't understand why, with the resources they have, A
and M should be a national championship tender every year.
It seems like, honestly, they never are.
Speaker 1: So when you say swings and missus, do you mean
swinging for a guy that doesn't come here or hiring
a guy that doesn't work out?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm saying right there, you actually just
sum up there it's both and I'd like and look,
I'm not gonna I don't want to keep times back
to Ohio State. Like Ohio State's worst head coaching hire
since nineteen fifty one was John Cooper, and he was
really good. Didn't meet Michigan and had a tough heat,
but he he elevated recruiting like that. He's still he's
in the College Ball Hall of Fame. Their worst tires
since nineteen fifty one is in the Hall of Fame
for college football.
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, Ryan Day, No,
don't you dare anyway do that?
Speaker 2: Yes, please start that back up again anyway.
Speaker 5: But A and M though, has had so many guys
that they've hired that have not worked out, And I
don't understand how they can, Like if ain't am smart.
They go to Ryan Day and say, here's a blank contract,
what's the check, what do you want to have on
the round?
Speaker 2: What's the number? You tell me? Or go to somebody else.
Speaker 5: But obviously that with Jimbo Fisher apparently, and that didn't
work out too well. They didn't buying them out and
all this stuff. I just I can't understand why A
and M cannot get higher, They can't get saving, they
can't get you know.
Speaker 1: You're in the SEC now for the last twelve years.
What the crap?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you say it right, I mean, what it's
what do you explain?
Speaker 4: It's hard to explain. You have so many opportunities.
Speaker 3: First off, you have you know, there's more Texas and
Texas A and M. And this is non debata, but
they have the most money than any schools in college football.
Speaker 4: It's true.
Speaker 3: This is fact. I didn't make it up. Highest states closed,
but this is fact. Second off is you can't defend
A and M. There's no You have every resource. You
have one of the top two or three best athletic
facilities there for training. The guys go there. You have
a talent pool in Texas that you don't have to leave,
and you have all the money in the world.
Speaker 1: So what is it?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's hard to explain. No one can
put their finger on it. What is it is? You
go there and there's so many pretty women or they
don't go.
Speaker 1: To I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 3: And the same as JT is in Ohio outside looking
in it's like I don't know either, and you, being
so close to the vest there, you're like, I don't
know either. So there's not an excuse until I mean, okay,
is Mike Elko the guy?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But if he's not the guy, who, because you've tried everything,
he's an ex he's he's an Aggie, right, he went
and had some success at Duke, So who's who's the guy?
If he's not, it don't know. Again, you have four
questions there that you don't know the answer to.
Speaker 4: Why why?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: Why? And no one can give you the answer.
Speaker 1: And look, people talk about expectations the Aggies, like, well,
you know, y'all don't expect to win a national title
of year. Yes, we do, it just never happens. And
you know, look, I'm sitting here bitching and complaining about
a forty two to twenty four win in Week one
when your offense stood out pretty good, pretty well, but
it was against UTSA. Emmitt Smith's kid, A J. Smith,
got his first touchdown as an Aggie in year two
at A and M. After four years at Stanford, He's
now in his sixty year of college football. Two years
at A and M. And he just scored his first
touchdown for the Aggies and he is really good. Why
is he not being utilized more?
Speaker 3: Hey, te UTSA is not Charlton State, but they're not
a highest state either. They go to a bowl game
almost every year. Listen, they're they're not They're not a sauce.
They have talent, they're they're they're in, they're in that realm.
Speaker 4: A little bit.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get so those lower you know, lower five,
the lower star kids that you get from Texas that
potentially you're gonna get that at UTSA. It's it's a
solid program, but there's no way what you have there
at Texas A and M. You should be struggling. I
don't care if it's the first game or not against UTSA.
This is your time to shine. This is your time
to jump up in the pools and show the talent.
If you're Mike Elco and you know you got to
win that game sixty to ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's just what that's what you have
to that's what you have to do.
Speaker 3: You know, like I said, you're not going in and
you're not playing Clemson or you're not playing these teams
that It's okay to struggle a little bit to find
out who you are. You better know who you are
and all cylinders and your prep against UTSA and they
just don't do it.
Speaker 1: Tita, thanks for popping on. We know you got to
run talking to Ohio State football with us. You'll be
back on the show regularly and helping us out with
all of these analysisis will you The fire Ryan Day
thing kind of pissed me off.
Speaker 7: I'm getting out of I can't stand for that hashtag
fire Ryan Day. Thanks boys, see it all right, jt
There he goes, great, Tito. Tito will be back on
the show with us numerous times, helping us break down
some college football stuff in.
Speaker 1: The state of Texas and outside the state of Texas
for sure. Johnny, let's shift gears here. As I'm tired
of talking about my Aggi's I want to get into
maybe one of the more notable events we had this
weekend in college football with the Texas Tech Red Raiders
as they go sixty seven to seven over FCS Arkansas
Pine Bluff the Golden Lions. This game not necessarily famous
for the score or anything that happened during the game,
but for the storm that blew in at halftime. Did
you happen to see any of this on social media?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, not too much. But I think
the bigger problem is you're Arkansas Pine Bluff and you're
the Golden Lions. I mean, how do you get that
mask on? I mean that first off, you're in trouble
from the get go. I'm going to go that route.
So you're in trouble there. You deserve a storm that
comes in, and not only the storm in the weather.
It was certainly the storm of Texas Tech coming in,
but I saw bits and pieces of it.
Speaker 4: It didn't look good.
Speaker 1: Boy, it was look and that's West Texas. That's love.
It gets known for wicked weather sometimes, but man, I
don't know that i'd ever seen anything like this roll
through there, because you add, I saw a time lapse
video of the whole thing at halftime and it was
a wicked looking shelf cloud that just and it was nighttime.
But there's lights, you know, ambient lights from around the city,
around Lubeck and stuff. Not a lot, but there is. Man,
this thing rolled over the stadium and it just went
it's black, and the stadium emptied like crazy because of
the lightning threat. You know, you had all the players
obviously in the locker, but you didn't have the people
out in the stands with the threat of lightning like that.
And it was a lengthy, lengthy delay. It was forty
seven to nothing at the half Texas Tech, and then
they end up coming back and finishing the game sixty
seven to seven, which is what the Aggies should have
done to UTSA, but it wasn't to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas Tech, I mean they're they're not scared to
score some points what Texas A and M should be.
I mean, they're they have that bravado that they're coming
into our house and no matter where they go. And
they also got the there not too much dissimilar than
Texas A and M. They they they it's very much
out there that how much money they've spent in the
NIL to get their players there. So again, if it
doesn't work out for Texas Tech this year, where do
you go spending all this money? And I think they're
going to be viable when it comes to it. Can
they make the playoffs?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 3: But they're certainly putting the resources and the money to
make a team. And now it'll be relying on the
coaches because you're going to certainly get the kids. But
they they handled their business. They did exactly what they
were supposed to do. Unlike A and M. So you know,
if you want to give them a grade, yeah, is
it a B plus? Is it you know, see, whatever
whatever it may be, I would just say it's they
did what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 1: So check this out. It was a sixty seven to
seven win. That includes a ninety minute weather delay at halftime.
And because of that, because of the lengthy delay and
the time of day, the time of night it was,
they shortened the third and fourth periods to eight minutes, Smart,
so you had two eight minute court he had a
sixteen minute second half, and the Red Raiders still put
up sixty seven on your favorite Golden Lions.
Speaker 4: Smart, Golden Lions.
Speaker 1: It's the It's the Red raiders first preseason top twenty
five ranking since two thousand and eight. Now, it wasn't
all good news for the Red Raiders. Baron Morton threw
for two hundred and one yards and four touchdowns before
he left the game in a second quarter, limping after
a sack. He did not return. He stayed in the
game for a play, handed the ball off and then
Joey McGuire consulted with his medical staff and said, let's
get him off the field. We don't need him anymore
against Johnny's favorite Golden Lions. But look, this is the
offense you expect to see, this air raid offense from
Joey McGuire and the Red Raiders. And if they're figuring
things out on defense, and you know, again they haven't
really played anybody yet, but if they're starting to figure
some on defense, if they can replace TODs Brooks in
the backfield, which it looks like they have, then dude,
this could be a dangerous team in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're certainly going to score points. And and you know,
it's a plug and play for them. Their system has
already set up with Joey McGuire. They're going to run
and gun. They're not gonna rely on defense. They're gonna
certainly going to try to outscore you. And that's their
mo That's what Texas Tech has been forever, and they're
not changing who they are.
Speaker 4: That's why I like Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: I think in the past they just hadn't had the
athletes and the people to come there, especially the last
probably three or four years, with all these other big
name schools spending the money on the nil to get
these players. I think the world has changed a little
bit for Texas Tech. Now they have the money and
now they're going to be able to get the athletes
and the guys. And don't be surprised, man if Texas
A and M is going to score have multiple games
as you're going to see over seventy points, especially at
the very beginning. I think they're they want to get
these guys. I want to I think they want to
get their moders running right and just proved to say,
hey man, we're going to outscore you.
Speaker 4: We don't care what the defense is.
Speaker 1: Johnny, we got to talk a little acc football and
we got to talk about those sixteenth ranked SMU fighting
Mustangs playing at the Hilltop right here in Dallas. They
handled business against the East Texas A and M. I
guess they're not so Golden Lions, even though gold is
one of their colors. Yeah, they just don't have the word.
They're just the Lions, which I guess the lizards, the
Golden Lizard Lions. Ahmad Moses returned an interception ninety five
yards in this game for a touchdown, and then linebacker
Alexander Kilgore also had to pick six on a much
stranger and much shorter play. As the Mustangs opened the
season with a win. It didn't take long for the
Mustangs to get going in this one. They led for
good after Kevin Jennings sixty three yard TD pass to
Romelo Brinson on the third play of the game less
than a minute end of the game. He completed twenty
two to thirty passes for two hundred and sixty yards,
two touchdowns, and he ran seven yards for another score.
Brenton had seven catches for one hundred and twenty one yards.
The big play from Moses made a twenty eight to
three after East Texas got to the SMU eight. On
the first drive after halftime, he stepped in front of
a pass by Eric Rodriguez and sprinted the length of
the field untouched. SMU only had the ball for twenty
one minutes for the entire game, they led twenty one
to three at halftime. They had eight penalties for eighty
four yards, so definitely some things there to clean up.
Kill Gore, Like we mentioned, he's one of the team's captains.
He got hurt on a ten yard TV returned in
the first quarter. He was limping. He was on the
sideline after halftime on crutches and had a had his
foot in a boot. So not good things. Things not
going well for kill Gore. He's gonna have to come back.
He's one of their better middle linebackers. And then SMU
lost their top returning receiver, Jordan Hudson to an elbow
injury on a seven yard catch on the first play
of the game. Uh, but look, SMU, they're gonna be
another one of the favorites in the ACC. I think
they're they're ranked sixteen. I don't know. Again, I don't
know how far you're going to climb the rankings by
beating East Texas A and M. But uh, certainly they
did what they needed to do barring the injuries in
their opening game. Thoughts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can only put you can only
beat the opponent that's in front of you, right, It's
not their fault. I mean they're they're scheduling, and how
do you beat them? I think really matters, And I
think I don't think it's going to be a deterrent
in terms of looking into the college football playoffs where
they were last year, uh, getting back in the college
football playoffs. But certainly style points does matter. Are you
supposed to beat the people that you're supposed to beat
in a handle fashion?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: The challenge probably for the coaching staffs. And I'll put
you know, I'll put Texas Tech in there, and certainly
smu is you know, how do you manage your players?
Speaker 4: You got a couple players hurt that.
Speaker 3: Maybe didn't really need to be in there after that,
but a little bit that's the first game of the year.
You know, you don't know how your body heals and
you get hit, and you know some of that's wear
and tear, and you know a big difference between playing
injured and playing hurt, two big differences there. And it
could be something simple and conditioning going into the season.
You see a lot of this, some of these guys
getting hurt early. Just not getting used to the pounding
and the hitting practice is one thing. But again smu
I think certainly it's the favorite for the ACC and
and certainly should they be. They're another team like Texas
Tech that's going it's super high powered, going to score
a lot of points. And are certainly going to try
to outscore you their advantages. You know, they're they're playing
in the conference that is certainly not nearly as dominant
as the Big Twelve that Texas Tech is going to
be playing in, so maybe a little less competition. So
maybe SMU, like they did last year, has to really
score a lot of points and style points will matter
when it comes down to potentially making the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've seen some of the other ACC teams
this over the weekend, obviously Florida State knocking off Alabama
and losing to LSU but playing pretty well.
Speaker 4: And then Miami what say we say ACC AAC.
Speaker 1: Right, ACC Atlantic Coast Conference. Yeah, but yeah, so that's
gonna be a hard fought conference though for everybody. But
you know, we'll see what happens. Now we have we
got in the show, as I promised by bringing up
your Stephen f. Austin lumber Jacks. Uh, even though it
was not in a winning effort, Johnny Is the Houston
Cougars over the Lumberjacks at home twenty seven to nothing
as Connor Wigman, the former Aggie, throws for one hundred
and fifty nine yards and three touchdowns to beat the Lumberjacks.
Now you're the you are the media member of notes
for the Lumberjacks. What's going on? And Steven F. Austin
is the coach getting fired after this loss?
Speaker 4: No, certainly not. I mean, listen, you can see it's
Stephen F.
Speaker 3: Also, I'm gonna have to refer to some of my
people that actually went to Stephen F.
Speaker 4: Alston and Acadosius when it comes there.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, jumping up to that Division IE level
a few years ago is something big for Steven F.
Speaker 4: Austin.
Speaker 3: Their their tradition is more of it's such a great
place to party, school and being around there more so
than athletics itself. If you look back and you know,
probably ten years ago when they made such a prodigious
run in basketball getting to the tournament for so long,
I think the notoriety there has built their their football
program to jump into that D one. But they're gonna
be what they are. Yeah, you know, it's it's nothing more,
nothing less. Southland Conference is something, you know, is it
still D one football? Yes, You're going to get some
athletes to go there. Maybe a little similar to Tarlton State, right, Yeah, yeah, yes, certainly.
But you know, where are your expectations harbor your expectations
when it comes to SFA, And you know, Houston went
there and did exactly what they were supposed to do
and playing that game, and you know, is it. Do
I think Houston is going to be nearly as good
as they were in the last couple of years. No,
probably not. I think that two or three run is
what you get. I don't think they have the money
to pay these kids as much as the nil. I
think they're gonna lose some kids to certainly to Texas
Tech and maybe some other schools that found some money
and getting pucking some of those kids maybe out of
that Houston area that's very good in football. Uh so yeah,
I mean listen, SFA is what it is, Houston, Houston
did their job, and uh you know, do I have
high expectations And no, this is probably the only time
we'll talk SFA football on the show. So, Hey, Lumberjacks, great,
it's a beautiful it's a beautiful camp. It's great place
to go to school, and one of the best golf
courses in Texas right there at Crown Colony. So they
do have some positives maybe it's just not in the
football run.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not with the football team. Of course, Houston's
defense played spectacularly, not allowing a point point the Cougar's
out gaining the Lumberjacks three hundred and forty three yards
to one hundred and forty four. Houston's coach Willie Fritz,
of course, attributed this win to the defense, as he should.
But you still got to score points even when that happens.
So good time on both sides of the ball. We'll
see how the Cougar season progresses. And that's gonna wrap
up our first ever edition of Pig Skin and Burn Ends. Johnny,
This was fun, wasn't it? What let's see this is again?
Speaker 4: It was great. Let's let's do it.
Speaker 3: I love talking I love talking football, especially Texas football,
and you know, maybe we'll throw in a little Texas
high school football in this Pig Skin and burn INDs.
I followed Texas high school football a lot, just living
there for as long as I have and then kind
of breaking those things down and talking talking Texas college football.
Speaker 4: No, this is great.
Speaker 3: You kind of push my buttons when when you asked
me to do this with you, I was it didn't
take me very long to say yes. So no, it's
gonna be great moving forward, looking forward to it. Have
Tito jump in and pop in for his his long
takes about Texas football, because you know.
Speaker 4: He's gonna always poke the bear with the highest day.
Speaker 3: But he's he's yeah, it's great, but no, looking forward
to moving forward with this show and.
Speaker 4: We'll see what We'll see what Week two happens in
Texas Texas college football. Looking forward to talking about.
Speaker 1: We will be back next week with another big skin
and burn ins. Right here, I'm in the cartoon. That's
Johnny Gerber. Until next time, boys and girls, We'll see
you