1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,839 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the very first edition of pig 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,839 Skin and Burnt Ends. What does that mean? That means pigskin, 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,239 not the animal, but the ball, the football, the inflatable 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,960 football that some people like to play a game with. 5 00:00:20,679 --> 00:00:23,960 And burnt ends. Could could be food, It could be fun, 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,879 It could be drinks, it could be anything I want 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,079 it to mean, because I inherited the name of that show, 8 00:00:30,519 --> 00:00:33,439 and I didn't come up with it. So here we are. 9 00:00:33,679 --> 00:00:40,640 Don't come at sound like Peter Brady. There each, go ahead, 10 00:00:40,759 --> 00:00:43,479 pork chops and apple sauce. That voice you just heard 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,000 is one Jeff Tito Thitoff of ninety seven to one, 12 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:51,640 the fan in Columbus, Ohio, obviously here to talk about guys, 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,600 also a fan stream sports fame numerous shows up in 14 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,119 the buck Eye Nation. 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:58,159 Speaker 2: Uh. 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,399 Speaker 1: And then the guy to my left over there, EGA 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,840 of America member and sport noted sports handicapper and college 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,959 football fanatic, Johnny Gerber. Hello, boys, welcome to episode one 19 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:12,280 a Big Skin and burn Ins. How are you? 20 00:01:13,079 --> 00:01:15,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get in a word in edgewise 21 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,879 between you two. YouTube Jaspers, as my my father would say, 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Jerome Jaspers. I'm gonna try to chime in where I can, 23 00:01:22,719 --> 00:01:26,159 but listen. This is gonna be fun for those those 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,560 who's tuning in to get stats and things of that nature. 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,799 Speaker 4: Probably probably not going to be the right show for you. 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,719 Speaker 1: Might be in the wrong place. That gets a smart 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,000 way to do it. Guys, go ahead and tell people 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,040 who shouldn't be listening. 29 00:01:38,719 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: They all, they all should they all will be listening. 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,319 We have to give them the public what's it public? 31 00:01:46,519 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 32 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:48,719 Speaker 4: Disclaimer that works. Disclaimer works. 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: So look, we we've got what do we have one too? 34 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:55,120 We got six games we're gonna touch on. This program 35 00:01:55,159 --> 00:02:01,000 will primarily focus around Texas based college football. We will deviate, 36 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:06,040 much like a septum occasionally uh to other states other programs, 37 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:10,680 especially when they play said Texas based college football teams. 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,639 But we're gonna talk SEC, we're gonna talk Big twelve, 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,120 we're gonna talk ACC Probably not talking a lot of 40 00:02:17,159 --> 00:02:19,800 other stuff though, although we will from time to time. 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Because we've got two schools that are gonna be mentioned today, 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,280 one that we're leading with that might not ever get 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,360 mentioned on this program ever again, because boys, we've got 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,159 Tarleton State talk and we've got Lumberjack talk. Which Johnny 45 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:38,080 I know is near and dear to your heart. 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: CFA axem accfa. The Lumberjacks. Got to get the lumberjacks 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,560 in there. You gotta get the the lumberjackson. Who is 48 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:48,199 Who is the famous football player that went to SFA? 49 00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:50,439 Speaker 1: Uh? Jeb Brown? 50 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 4: Close? Close? He was the famous basketball player. 51 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: That's true? Yeah, yeah, yeah, who went to SFA. I 52 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:01,560 don't have it on the top of my tongue. Ah well. 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: No, no, almost give that now, come on, that's the 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:14,199 trivia question for people. Question super Bowl champion, super Bowl champion. 55 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: Dan Marino, No, oh, he didn't win a Super Bowl. 56 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: My main man, my main man, and having a lot 57 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,360 of fun playing golf with him and drinking. Larry Sinners 58 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:28,439 Larry Yeah, the full back, full back, Larry Centers. Larry Centers. 59 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,840 I think he should be in the Hall of Fame. 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,520 I think I think he went a Super Bowl New England. 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,479 Larry Centers played for New England. He did. He played 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,680 for a lot of teams and a great guy, loves 63 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:43,840 to play golf, just just have has had a lot 64 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,159 of fun. 65 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: I've had a lot of fun with Larry. 66 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: So just when you mentioned s f A Steven f 67 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:53,319 Austin in Nakadoches, Texas is the home of Larry Centners 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,159 Brown and Jeb Brown and Jeb Brown. 69 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:58,759 Speaker 1: Home of Jeb Brown, the notorious j E B. 70 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,199 Speaker 5: Larry Center is always the guy you drafted in fantasy football. 71 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:04,520 If you did not draft running backs early, you picked 72 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:09,240 him up later on because he caught passes. He has 73 00:04:09,319 --> 00:04:11,960 the cast as big as Tim's head, and that's very, 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,280 very big. Let me ask a question, Gerb, would you 75 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,279 rather have a million dollars or Tim's head full of nickels? 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: Well, the first part's fine, I'm already there, uh full 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,360 of What do you mean by. 78 00:04:25,079 --> 00:04:27,879 Speaker 5: For Tim's head full of nickels? What's worth more a 79 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:31,000 million dollars? Would Tim's head if you took it off 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,079 and filled it with nickels, would it hold more than 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,680 million dollars? No, it Would's. 82 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: Wrong with my head. Nobody has never said a big. 83 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 6: Because there's a lot of water in that head and 84 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:44,560 there's no water in here. There might be some burn 85 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:49,079 ends in there. Vodka vodka exactly, but the flavored vodka 86 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Tito's Texas handmade vodka about. 87 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: By the way, for our new listeners, And that's each 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,480 and every one of you. Because we've never done a 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,000 show before, you might have recognized. Tito is the host 90 00:04:59,079 --> 00:05:03,279 of Fantasy Football Island, your noted source for fantasy football covers. 91 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:05,720 If you guys are into fantasy football, go to head 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,160 over to fanstrmsports dot com and take a look at 93 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:12,279 Fantasy Football Island with Tito and Ring. They cover everything 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,920 for you guys on a weekly basis in that weird 95 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:21,439 adult playground called Fantasy football. So boys, Tarleton State is 96 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,480 on the map this week in Week one because they 97 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:33,439 beat Army in double overtime for their second ever win 98 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,680 versus an FBS school. And this was a crazy one. 99 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,240 We had to give Tarlton our props. Look, Tarleton's not 100 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,560 too far from me here in the DFW area down there, 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:50,199 Stevenville area, Blend College, Texas A and M school system. 102 00:05:50,519 --> 00:05:54,079 It's all related. It's all very ancestual, as Johnny's favorite 103 00:05:54,079 --> 00:05:58,000 word i'll throw out there. But you had Brad Larson 104 00:05:58,079 --> 00:06:00,439 making a thirty seven yard field goal on the second 105 00:06:00,519 --> 00:06:04,439 possession of double overtime to give Tarlton State the thirty 106 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,160 to twenty seven win over Army. And I say that 107 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:12,839 because things went great for one of the kickers things 108 00:06:12,879 --> 00:06:16,319 didn't go very well for the other kicker boys. At 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,839 the end of regulation, you had the Army quarterback Dwayne 110 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Coleman leave the game with an injury after he scrambled 111 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:26,879 and got tattooed back up, kel Helms took over. He 112 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,720 brought the Black Knights into field goal position, but Dawson Jones, 113 00:06:31,399 --> 00:06:35,319 in his first ever collegiate football game, missed a forty 114 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:39,000 three yard attempt in the closing seconds, sending the game 115 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,360 into overtime. Both teams made the first field goal in overtime, 116 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 and then Jones missed a thirty five yarder on the 117 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,120 Black Knight's second possession of overtime. As a kicker, literally 118 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,199 you have one job. And we talk about kickers all 119 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:57,240 the time and at every level, right you literally had 120 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:02,519 one job and you didn't fall one. You falled twice 121 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:07,920 and literally lost the game for your team. Army boys 122 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,720 are kickers, football players, and should they all just be shot? 123 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,839 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, kickers, that's what I mean. They have got 124 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,959 the most pressure and the least work to do. 125 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: But they were. 126 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:20,199 Speaker 5: Army was a two touchdown favorite going into that game. 127 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,279 I can't believe they've lost that game, And there were 128 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:25,680 people that bet the money line on that that like, 129 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,800 oh yeah, it's a sure thing, and they get killed 130 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,199 on that. I just the kicker thing. It's it's got 131 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 to the point where kicking is so easy. It seems 132 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,839 like it's hard to not have a good kicker on 133 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,279 your team. 134 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 135 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:40,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at something like that, and going 136 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,399 back to a little bit of Charleton State, you're looking 137 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:44,240 at a team that you know, just stepped up to 138 00:07:44,279 --> 00:07:47,000 that Division IE level and playing some of these D 139 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,560 one teams. But also you have to look all the 140 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,600 all the big, big group of talent of talented football 141 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,800 high school football in Texas. Don't be surprised if you 142 00:07:56,839 --> 00:07:59,360 hear a little bit more of Tarlington State maybe getting 143 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:02,600 those two or three star kids or maybe getting a 144 00:08:02,639 --> 00:08:05,199 lot of these kids in the transfer portal. That's what 145 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,120 they've been doing in basketball. I mean, for people that 146 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:13,360 don't know, Gillespie is their basketball coach at Tarlton, Billie 147 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,759 Gillespie is their basketball coach. 148 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: So you're Kentucky head coach. 149 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're looking at. 150 00:08:17,519 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: That model that they might take over in terms of 151 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,120 what they've kind of replicated in their basketball program into 152 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,160 their football program, getting these transfer kids stepping up to 153 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:29,600 that D one and this is that whole big group 154 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:34,440 of so many good high school football kids in Texas. 155 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,720 Don't be surprised if you see I'm not saying they're 156 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,720 going to be a powerhouse by any means, but don't 157 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,320 be surprised if they continue to knock off some kids 158 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:44,960 and getting some of this talent that maybe could be featured. 159 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,480 I mean, they had a kid that played there last year, 160 00:08:47,519 --> 00:08:50,200 their first first year in Division one that just made 161 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,799 the Patriots as a wide receiver. So you're looking at 162 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,399 a lot of a lot of talent that potentially could 163 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,039 be funneled to Tarlton State. So don't be surprised if 164 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:01,120 they continue to be surprising people. 165 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,519 Speaker 5: The way that the structure is now in college in 166 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,320 college sports is it's like a baseball minor league system. 167 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Guys go to the major league level, which are the 168 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,080 guys who go to like the four or five star 169 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:15,559 guys that go and play like Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, whatever, 170 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,919 and if they don't pan out there, they go down 171 00:09:18,919 --> 00:09:21,159 to Triple A. And Triple A is that next level 172 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,120 where you might see someone like Charles say they will 173 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,559 pick off some of those guys or Double A or 174 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,919 single A whatever is you go down though, But a 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,039 school like charge State's gonna be able to pick off 176 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,320 some of those guys that you'll see a guy who's like, oh, 177 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,679 this guy was a four star recruit for Indiana or 178 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,039 whatever or Texas A and M and didn't get the 179 00:09:36,039 --> 00:09:39,919 playing time or whatever, and then what gets demoted And 180 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,200 no disrespect targe. 181 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: Everytime you said no respect to means disrespectful. 182 00:09:42,919 --> 00:09:45,399 Speaker 5: No, just suspect Chargine State though, But they're gonna get 183 00:09:45,399 --> 00:09:48,360 a guy though, who was once highly regarded enough to 184 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:52,240 be a D one top prospect who now will will 185 00:09:52,279 --> 00:09:55,480 thrive down there. And it's mentioned the basketball thing. G 186 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,519 Leslie's got it, got it. It's a huge advantage haveing 187 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,360 him down there for that, but the football program also 188 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:00,200 can benefit that. 189 00:10:00,919 --> 00:10:02,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at if you look at the 190 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:05,120 kind of the back end of it being so close 191 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:09,519 to Fort Worth and North Crowley winning the state championship 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,799 for Texas, I mean, you could get some of those 193 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:15,000 kids that's only an hour away from from Stevensville or 194 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,360 hour and a half from Stevensville. You could get some 195 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,919 of those kids that may be playing that Fort Worth 196 00:10:20,039 --> 00:10:22,919 area that hey, they don't want to go far from home, 197 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:25,519 or they know they can play, or maybe you know, 198 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,159 Tartan State's not really getting a bunch of money, but 199 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,000 potentially could be getting some of that nil money that 200 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,000 these kids can maybe don't want to sit for two 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,840 years and even though they're high end, they could go 202 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 right in there and star. And I think just the 203 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:42,120 evolution of make seeing the seeing the success of a 204 00:10:42,159 --> 00:10:45,159 guy making the Patriots coming from Charlton State, I think 205 00:10:45,159 --> 00:10:47,000 it's gonna I think, like I said, I think they're 206 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,840 going to surprise some people and they're gonna get a 207 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:51,000 lot of They're gonna get a lot more talent going 208 00:10:51,039 --> 00:10:52,080 there than what people think. 209 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, so kudos to the Tarleton State Texans as they're 210 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,480 known here the name but whatever. Yeah right, Hey, that's 211 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,679 the Texans before Houston was to. 212 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: The Ohio State. Ohios. 213 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: Go ahead that you know what's better than whatever that 214 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:08,720 travesty is that they are. 215 00:11:08,799 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: Now? 216 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:12,879 Speaker 1: The hell is a buckeye, it's a nut. Oh so 217 00:11:12,919 --> 00:11:14,120 you're named after a nut? 218 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 4: And how is that it's called the fans? They're nuts? 219 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: Yes they are. Yeah, I don't think that's what that means. 220 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,559 But boys, speaking of those nuts, I mean the right 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,799 team won. I'm not gonna lie. Yes, this is the 222 00:11:25,879 --> 00:11:30,799 Texas based college football program. However, I will state my 223 00:11:30,879 --> 00:11:33,759 allegiance right now, and it is not the Longhorns. As 224 00:11:33,799 --> 00:11:35,039 many of you probably know. 225 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,159 Speaker 4: Win win for you, Tim, that game was a win win. 226 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,080 It didn't matter it. 227 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: Was it didn't I don't know that it didn't matter. 228 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,960 It felt good to for the Longhorns to lose. But 229 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,000 you have your number one versus number three. And I 230 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,879 was corrected by the great Tim May in Columbus. He said, 231 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:53,240 you know, if you saying their number three, you're looking 232 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:57,200 at the wrong pole, right this same pole as everybody else. 233 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,159 Speaker 2: You would one three in another the number three. 234 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeyes will be number three, no more. I 235 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,480 don't know that they'll be number one. 236 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: But they were number one in the Columbus dispatch, so 237 00:12:08,759 --> 00:12:14,039 it doesn't really map Glumbus y Yeah, Rumbus. 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, number one everywhere. But you know, it was a 239 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:20,600 game heading into the heading into the horseshoe. All of 240 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:22,320 the hype, like, I don't know that I've seen this 241 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,399 much hype in a week one game between two teams. 242 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,759 I don't care where they were ranked, because you had 243 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:31,600 all of the storylines. You had the rematch of the playoff, 244 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,519 you had but but it's it's but it's really not. 245 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,279 You have two new quarterbacks, you had fourteen players replaced, 246 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,759 I think on the Longhorns team, twelve players replaced on 247 00:12:40,799 --> 00:12:44,879 the Buckeyes team. It wasn't really a rematch, but it 248 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:47,519 was especially for the fans, which is what matters, right. 249 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,240 And then you had, of course the additional thrown in 250 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,399 storyline of Arch Manning, who's a Manning who's been this hyped, 251 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:57,519 poor hyped kid for the last five six years of 252 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,480 his career, going back to high school. Due then you 253 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:04,000 had Julian Saying, who was heavily recruited by literally every 254 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,120 team in the country, including Texas, and ended up in Columbus. 255 00:13:08,759 --> 00:13:12,559 And who who you know it Stark knows Archie or 256 00:13:12,759 --> 00:13:15,559 knows arch everybody knows Julian. It was just there's so 257 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,879 many storylines going into this game. And then we finally 258 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:22,679 got to play the game, and I think exactly what 259 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,440 we thought was going to happen, except for the Texas fans, 260 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,679 I think happened where you had two teams, And again 261 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:32,720 Tim May on the Tim May Show said it very 262 00:13:32,759 --> 00:13:35,759 eloquently this was game. This game was gonna be clunky, 263 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,440 and I think it was too. Again, first game of 264 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,679 the season, no preseason, and he saw two good teams 265 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,000 battling out the better team. I think in the long 266 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:47,159 run one Tito. 267 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,919 Speaker 5: Thoughts, Yeah, So Ohio State comes into this game and 268 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,919 they've got to replace obviously their starting quarterback. Yeah, Julian saying, 269 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,480 coming in who is vastly inexperienced as far as game 270 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,240 experience goes. I had to replace two guys got drafted 271 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:02,799 early the NFL at the running back positions, and a 272 00:14:02,879 --> 00:14:05,120 Mecca book is gone. They've offensive lineman and the loss 273 00:14:05,159 --> 00:14:07,000 defensive side, all this stuff. They've also had to place 274 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:10,879 two coordinators. The offensive coordinator Brian Hartline was the receivers coach, 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,279 now is the OC making the calls. And then they 276 00:14:13,279 --> 00:14:15,440 brought in Matt Patricia to replace Jim Knowles who went 277 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,159 to Penn State. More on that in another podcast. But nonetheless, 278 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:22,159 the defense, though, is what really set the tone for 279 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,960 this game, and Matt Patrician did a fantastic job of 280 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,559 masking the coverages and did a lot of things to 281 00:14:29,639 --> 00:14:33,200 confuse arch banding. What's interesting to me, though, is that 282 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,320 when you look at. 283 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: The game. 284 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: Last year, Ohio State and Texas both had experienced quarterbacks 285 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:43,600 in that game at Ohio State one. This year they 286 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,360 both have inexperienced quarterbacks and Ohio State one. 287 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:47,279 Speaker 2: I think that says a lot. 288 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: I'm not ripping sark, but I'm just saying I think 289 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,159 it says a lot about Ohio State's coaching staff and 290 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,559 their philosophies that I feel like Ohio State's staff has 291 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,360 out coached Texas's staff. Now two games in a row, 292 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,320 Texas is gonna be good this year. Look, there was 293 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,679 great against Ohio State. Ohio State did play conservatively. They 294 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,080 and they admitted that they were not going to take 295 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,960 a lot of chances. You will see a different Ohio 296 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,120 State team the next couple weeks against Grambling, the OU, 297 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,720 than the bye week, than Washington. But like Texas is not. 298 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:16,600 People say, oh, the arch May looks bad. Look, Ohio 299 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:19,720 State's defense is a lot to cause that archmanys. We 300 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:22,559 just find they'll be better. The arch maning you saw 301 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:24,919 on Saturday is a lot different than the arch May 302 00:15:24,919 --> 00:15:26,279 of you see. Come playoff time. 303 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,759 Speaker 1: Johnny, you're a Texas fan, what are your thoughts on 304 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:29,679 Archs performance? 305 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're looking at two teams. 306 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:33,639 Speaker 3: You're looking at two teams and certainly I think are 307 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:35,320 going to be there at the end and certainly be 308 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,679 in the playoffs. And what they look like now is 309 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,120 nowhere close to what they're going to look like at 310 00:15:40,159 --> 00:15:42,840 the end of the year. Everyone wants to get on 311 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:45,240 Arch's stats and stuff like that, but you're going into 312 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,840 an environment that was extremely difficult, and you had a 313 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:50,960 chance to tie the game up or getting close to 314 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,120 the game if you're not stopped at the end zone. 315 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,919 Everybody's harping on Arch and he didn't perform, and I 316 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,399 know his percentages of incompletions. He only threw thirty nine 317 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,679 percent completions or thirty eight percent, the lowest statu of 318 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,159 any quarterback University of Texas starting. But you also have 319 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:09,279 to give credit to first off, as Tito said, the 320 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,440 coaching staff the Ohio State did a masterful job in 321 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:15,720 terms of how they not only had the defense and 322 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,080 Patricia coming in and gain planning for them. But I'm 323 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,600 going to give credit to hertline first time coming in 324 00:16:20,639 --> 00:16:23,759 as an offensive coordinator and goes to a fresh or 325 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,000 first time starting quarterback in an environment even though that 326 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,120 you are at home that basically didn't lose the game 327 00:16:30,279 --> 00:16:32,960 and gave him some opportunities and opened up the game 328 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:35,600 a little bit more to make him feel comfortable than 329 00:16:35,679 --> 00:16:39,159 I thought Sark did with arch Manning. And you know, 330 00:16:39,759 --> 00:16:41,519 I don't want to get too caught up on arch 331 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:43,080 Manning stats and going into. 332 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: A place like that. 333 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: Would it look a little bit different if Julian sam 334 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:50,759 was going into Texas? Would those strats be relatively he said, yeah, probably, 335 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,639 But if you look at it, I'm going to give 336 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:54,320 I'm going to give a little bit more blame to 337 00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:58,440 Sark in terms of not giving the ability to doing 338 00:16:58,519 --> 00:17:01,480 what Ryan Day or Brian art Line did to open 339 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,799 it up and make this make this kid feel comfortable. 340 00:17:03,879 --> 00:17:07,799 So listen, was it anticipated probably was going to be 341 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:08,640 a defensive game. 342 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, it certainly was. 343 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: But I think Arch is getting too much of criticism 344 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:15,039 in terms of how he played. And I'll go back 345 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:17,279 to say, maybe Sark didn't put him in the best 346 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:21,599 positions to allow him to feel comfortable and open up 347 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,359 what Brian Hartline did, the offensive coordinator for a Highest 348 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,680 State did for Julian Sand. 349 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought we'd see somewhat if if we 350 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,599 were going to have an offensive game, which I don't 351 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,440 know how you could expect a huge offensive game with 352 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:38,519 two brand new quarterbacks, two really new teams, as we discussed, 353 00:17:38,759 --> 00:17:41,759 and two good defenses going against each other. But I 354 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:45,119 thought you'd see more Ryan Wingo for Texas involved. I 355 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,680 thought for sure you'd see more Jeremiah Smith involved in 356 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,720 the passing game for the Buckeyes. But again, two top 357 00:17:50,759 --> 00:17:53,000 notch defenses. I think that was the goal for each 358 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:56,640 defense was to shut down the star wide receiver excuse 359 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,000 me for the other team, and that did not bode 360 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,160 well for either quarterback. They kind of had to go 361 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,400 to you know, SECA Reid's here and there, and they're inexperienced, 362 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,039 so you expect some of that. But in the long run, yeah, 363 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:13,880 out coached for sure by the entire coaching staff in Columbus, 364 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,680 out coach Sark and his guys. And look, the hatred 365 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,720 against arch Manning is baffling to me. Look, dude, it's 366 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:24,720 it's he's a kid. It's his first start against the 367 00:18:24,839 --> 00:18:30,200 national championship, national champion team on the road, in a 368 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,079 hostile environment, against a top defense in the nation, and 369 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,240 you're gonna give him crap because he was a little 370 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:38,240 shook like I get I get it. 371 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 5: Look media hyped up arch Manning. What arch Maning didn't 372 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,880 go out there the sickest chest out and say look. 373 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: At me, I'm the best, I'm the guy. 374 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,839 Speaker 5: It was the media that that really hyped up arch 375 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,440 Manning because he's Manning and because he was hyped up 376 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,039 coming to hype out of high school and stuff, all 377 00:18:51,079 --> 00:18:53,759 that stuff, and like all the pressure on him was not. 378 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:56,160 He didn't go out there and like and say I'm 379 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,400 the guy. Other people did. Texas is defense is legit 380 00:19:02,279 --> 00:19:04,640 and they shut that Ohio State Julius Sam played a 381 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,400 very conservative game. He looked like, as I said, Craig 382 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Krenzel out, this felt like the O two Buckeye team. 383 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Cren's like a very conservative game manager for Julian what 384 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,319 he was in a great defense that they're gonna open 385 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,240 up coming forward. Now they're gonna open up against Grambling 386 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,039 and Ou and then they they'll see what they look 387 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,640 like a Washington. But it's it was such a clo 388 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:27,400 If Texas kicks field goals in those situations where they 389 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,680 had opportunities and didn't and went for it, if they 390 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:31,640 make field goals there, this could have been a much 391 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,240 different outcome. 392 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you look at if you look at 393 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:36,119 to kind of go back a little bit, is you 394 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,559 look at the biggest strengths for Ohio State and Texas 395 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,599 is their defensive line, And what's the and what what 396 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,839 does what does a great running game give a quarterback 397 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,039 that doesn't have a lot of experience for just starting 398 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,599 a great running game? Well, they couldn't do that. They 399 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,440 didn't have big plays because both defensive lines were so 400 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:56,359 good that they kind of shut down the run and 401 00:19:56,799 --> 00:19:59,519 made them kind of really pass and put the pressure 402 00:19:59,839 --> 00:20:03,440 on on both inexperienced quarterbacks. It just seemed like Ohio 403 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,480 State did a little bit better than what Texas did 404 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:08,039 against Julian saying. 405 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 5: It's hard to believe, but it was a damn good 406 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,079 fourteen to seven game. You know, like Colls foall. Now 407 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,759 you think about it's like, oh, you have lots of 408 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:17,079 scoring and stuff. This was a low scoring game. Ohio 409 00:20:17,079 --> 00:20:20,000 State made zero turnovers, had zero turnovers, had two penalties. 410 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:22,640 Obviously Texas had a couple of stakes here and there, 411 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,160 but it was a pretty clean game by and large. 412 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,319 Speaker 2: Fourteen great defenses. 413 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,039 Speaker 3: Well yeah, if you look, I mean five penalties for 414 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:33,640 Ohio State. Two of them thirty for fifty yards. Two 415 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,279 of them were thirty yards and no turnovers for the 416 00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:39,839 first game of the year against a top five team. 417 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,880 That's pretty that's pretty damn good for Ohio State. I mean, 418 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,680 hats off to them playing discipline, and again I'm going 419 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:47,519 to go back to the coaching staff and say they 420 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:50,480 did a masterful job in terms of game planning first year, 421 00:20:50,519 --> 00:20:52,759 no matter if you're a to shoe or doesn't matter 422 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:53,400 where you go. 423 00:20:55,319 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Texas A and M against the UTSA road Runners and 424 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,279 it's still weird for me to think of UTSA having 425 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:04,519 a football program, But here we are, and they're not horrible. 426 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,799 They've been pretty good over the course of the last 427 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:11,720 couple of years as a somewhat new program. As usual, 428 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,400 my Aggies play down to the level of their competition 429 00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:19,119 and give everyone at Kyle Field and elsewhere watching on 430 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,759 TV near heart attacks, as this one was as close 431 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:27,680 as twenty one to seventeen Aggies, What are you doing, 432 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:31,799 Mike Elco, But the the Aggies run away with it late. 433 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,319 I guess kind of forty two to twenty four as 434 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,640 your final. The Aggies go to one and oh Roadrunners 435 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,279 at oh to one. Marcel Reid your new starter in 436 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:47,400 Aggie Land as Connor Wigman now plays for the Houston Cougars. 437 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,319 May or his name come up here in a little bit. 438 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,880 But a career four a career high four touchdowns for 439 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Marcel Reid. Casey Concepcion made his Aggie's debut. He had 440 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,000 a TD catch and returned to punt for another touchdow 441 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,119 down in his Aggie's debut. The Aggie's at number nineteen. 442 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,079 I don't know how far you're going to climb in 443 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,759 the in the rankings when you beat TSA but a 444 00:22:09,759 --> 00:22:12,039 win is a win. Robert Henry Junior had a seventy 445 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:15,039 five yard touchdown run on the first play of the 446 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:17,240 second half of the Roadrunners that cut the lead to 447 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,799 twenty one to seventeen. And I remember looking at the TV, like, 448 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,880 here we go again? Is this Jimbo's team? Still? Is 449 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,759 Jimbo Fisher coaching this team? I don't know what's happening 450 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:30,119 with Mike Elcho. I don't know what's happening with the Aggies. 451 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,359 There is no way that the Roadrunners should have played 452 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,839 A and M this close. I will always have questions. 453 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,720 I don't care who the coach is Arci Slocum could 454 00:22:40,759 --> 00:22:43,519 come back, and I will have questions about how this 455 00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:46,160 thing is run, how this program is run. And it's 456 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,200 now gotten to the point where it's such a far 457 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,799 stretch of time going back twenty five thirty years, where 458 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:56,440 this thing never seems to play up to the level 459 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,000 that you think it will. With the talent that with 460 00:22:59,079 --> 00:23:01,279 the guys they have on this team, even with some 461 00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:04,759 of the coaches you have on the staff, offensive geniuses, 462 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:09,000 defensive geniuses, this thing never seems to be able to impress. 463 00:23:09,559 --> 00:23:12,039 And I'll never know why, neither one of you guys 464 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,079 or Aggie's fans. I would like y'all's outside perspective on 465 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,920 why this thing gets messed up so easily. 466 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,519 Speaker 5: So Robert Henry Junior and up with sixteen carriages for 467 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:24,839 one to seventy seven and the two touchdowns you need 468 00:23:24,839 --> 00:23:26,519 to take a take away the seventy five yard run, 469 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:28,279 it's still a damn good stat line being fifteen for 470 00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:30,200 one or two at that point. Sure, I have a 471 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,960 hard time understanding why it is that A and M 472 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920 has so many swings and misses on head coaches when 473 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,599 you've got the money they've got, and if you think 474 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,240 back in God. Okay, I'm dating myself. Actually I'm dating 475 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Gerb when I say this, because Gerb's old. But there 476 00:23:46,279 --> 00:23:48,480 was a time when they were on the brink of 477 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,720 hiring Beau sham Beckler from Michigan in the early to 478 00:23:51,839 --> 00:23:54,559 mid eighties, like eighty three eighty for what ever was 479 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,559 I wasn't born yet, Nat whatever, don't, don't, don't. 480 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,839 Speaker 2: We're not doing this today, Gerb. 481 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,759 Speaker 5: Anyway, they almost they like they had sham Beckler on 482 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,720 the brink of taking the job because they could throw 483 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,200 a lot of money. We know A and M's got 484 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,480 a ton of money. They could throw a lot of 485 00:24:09,519 --> 00:24:12,240 money at somebody. And sham Beckler said, now I'm staying 486 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,480 at Michigan. Now I stayed there. But they've had so 487 00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:18,559 many swings and misses on college on head coaches, and 488 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:23,039 I don't understand why, with the resources they have, A 489 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,599 and M should be a national championship tender every year. 490 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,000 It seems like, honestly, they never are. 491 00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: So when you say swings and missus, do you mean 492 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,440 swinging for a guy that doesn't come here or hiring 493 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,640 a guy that doesn't work out? 494 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: Exactly? 495 00:24:36,759 --> 00:24:38,599 Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm saying right there, you actually just 496 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,279 sum up there it's both and I'd like and look, 497 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:42,880 I'm not gonna I don't want to keep times back 498 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,960 to Ohio State. Like Ohio State's worst head coaching hire 499 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,359 since nineteen fifty one was John Cooper, and he was 500 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,640 really good. Didn't meet Michigan and had a tough heat, 501 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,400 but he he elevated recruiting like that. He's still he's 502 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440 in the College Ball Hall of Fame. Their worst tires 503 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,000 since nineteen fifty one is in the Hall of Fame 504 00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:58,960 for college football. 505 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, Ryan Day, No, 506 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,119 don't you dare anyway do that? 507 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: Yes, please start that back up again anyway. 508 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,519 Speaker 5: But A and M though, has had so many guys 509 00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,680 that they've hired that have not worked out, And I 510 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,759 don't understand how they can, Like if ain't am smart. 511 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,920 They go to Ryan Day and say, here's a blank contract, 512 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:19,559 what's the check, what do you want to have on 513 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:19,880 the round? 514 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,759 Speaker 2: What's the number? You tell me? Or go to somebody else. 515 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,799 Speaker 5: But obviously that with Jimbo Fisher apparently, and that didn't 516 00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:26,160 work out too well. They didn't buying them out and 517 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,160 all this stuff. I just I can't understand why A 518 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,160 and M cannot get higher, They can't get saving, they 519 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,160 can't get you know. 520 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,039 Speaker 1: You're in the SEC now for the last twelve years. 521 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,599 What the crap? 522 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you say it right, I mean, what it's 523 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:41,599 what do you explain? 524 00:25:41,839 --> 00:25:44,279 Speaker 4: It's hard to explain. You have so many opportunities. 525 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: First off, you have you know, there's more Texas and 526 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Texas A and M. And this is non debata, but 527 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,279 they have the most money than any schools in college football. 528 00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: It's true. 529 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:55,279 Speaker 3: This is fact. I didn't make it up. Highest states closed, 530 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:58,799 but this is fact. Second off is you can't defend 531 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,160 A and M. There's no You have every resource. You 532 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,599 have one of the top two or three best athletic 533 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,160 facilities there for training. The guys go there. You have 534 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,400 a talent pool in Texas that you don't have to leave, 535 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:13,359 and you have all the money in the world. 536 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,039 Speaker 1: So what is it? 537 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's hard to explain. No one can 538 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,680 put their finger on it. What is it is? You 539 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,440 go there and there's so many pretty women or they 540 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:20,759 don't go. 541 00:26:20,759 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: To I don't know. 542 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,759 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. 543 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: And the same as JT is in Ohio outside looking 544 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,440 in it's like I don't know either, and you, being 545 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:32,160 so close to the vest there, you're like, I don't 546 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,519 know either. So there's not an excuse until I mean, okay, 547 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,920 is Mike Elko the guy? 548 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. 549 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: But if he's not the guy, who, because you've tried everything, 550 00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:46,000 he's an ex he's he's an Aggie, right, he went 551 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,200 and had some success at Duke, So who's who's the guy? 552 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,440 If he's not, it don't know. Again, you have four 553 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:55,000 questions there that you don't know the answer to. 554 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,799 Speaker 4: Why why? 555 00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:56,079 Speaker 2: Why? 556 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: Why? And no one can give you the answer. 557 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: And look, people talk about expectations the Aggies, like, well, 558 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,400 you know, y'all don't expect to win a national title 559 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,319 of year. Yes, we do, it just never happens. And 560 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,440 you know, look, I'm sitting here bitching and complaining about 561 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,480 a forty two to twenty four win in Week one 562 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,240 when your offense stood out pretty good, pretty well, but 563 00:27:16,319 --> 00:27:19,279 it was against UTSA. Emmitt Smith's kid, A J. Smith, 564 00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:21,640 got his first touchdown as an Aggie in year two 565 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,960 at A and M. After four years at Stanford, He's 566 00:27:25,039 --> 00:27:27,960 now in his sixty year of college football. Two years 567 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,359 at A and M. And he just scored his first 568 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,400 touchdown for the Aggies and he is really good. Why 569 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,839 is he not being utilized more? 570 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: Hey, te UTSA is not Charlton State, but they're not 571 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,160 a highest state either. They go to a bowl game 572 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,319 almost every year. Listen, they're they're not They're not a sauce. 573 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,960 They have talent, they're they're they're in, they're in that realm. 574 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: A little bit. 575 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna get so those lower you know, lower five, 576 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,160 the lower star kids that you get from Texas that 577 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,640 potentially you're gonna get that at UTSA. It's it's a 578 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,359 solid program, but there's no way what you have there 579 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,599 at Texas A and M. You should be struggling. I 580 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,480 don't care if it's the first game or not against UTSA. 581 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240 This is your time to shine. This is your time 582 00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,759 to jump up in the pools and show the talent. 583 00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,680 If you're Mike Elco and you know you got to 584 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,200 win that game sixty to ten. 585 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's just what that's what you have 586 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,680 to that's what you have to do. 587 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,599 Speaker 3: You know, like I said, you're not going in and 588 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,400 you're not playing Clemson or you're not playing these teams 589 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,720 that It's okay to struggle a little bit to find 590 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,039 out who you are. You better know who you are 591 00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:32,640 and all cylinders and your prep against UTSA and they 592 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,440 just don't do it. 593 00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: Tita, thanks for popping on. We know you got to 594 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200 run talking to Ohio State football with us. You'll be 595 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,039 back on the show regularly and helping us out with 596 00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:42,680 all of these analysisis will you The fire Ryan Day 597 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,599 thing kind of pissed me off. 598 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,759 Speaker 7: I'm getting out of I can't stand for that hashtag 599 00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:48,720 fire Ryan Day. Thanks boys, see it all right, jt 600 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:53,240 There he goes, great, Tito. Tito will be back on 601 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:55,799 the show with us numerous times, helping us break down 602 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:57,000 some college football stuff in. 603 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: The state of Texas and outside the state of Texas 604 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,799 for sure. Johnny, let's shift gears here. As I'm tired 605 00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,799 of talking about my Aggi's I want to get into 606 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,559 maybe one of the more notable events we had this 607 00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:10,759 weekend in college football with the Texas Tech Red Raiders 608 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,480 as they go sixty seven to seven over FCS Arkansas 609 00:29:15,519 --> 00:29:20,079 Pine Bluff the Golden Lions. This game not necessarily famous 610 00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:22,599 for the score or anything that happened during the game, 611 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,200 but for the storm that blew in at halftime. Did 612 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,359 you happen to see any of this on social media? 613 00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:31,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit, not too much. But I think 614 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:34,240 the bigger problem is you're Arkansas Pine Bluff and you're 615 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,519 the Golden Lions. I mean, how do you get that 616 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:39,240 mask on? I mean that first off, you're in trouble 617 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,799 from the get go. I'm going to go that route. 618 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:45,440 So you're in trouble there. You deserve a storm that 619 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,440 comes in, and not only the storm in the weather. 620 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,079 It was certainly the storm of Texas Tech coming in, 621 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:52,640 but I saw bits and pieces of it. 622 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: It didn't look good. 623 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: Boy, it was look and that's West Texas. That's love. 624 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:00,359 It gets known for wicked weather sometimes, but man, I 625 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,759 don't know that i'd ever seen anything like this roll 626 00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,839 through there, because you add, I saw a time lapse 627 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,960 video of the whole thing at halftime and it was 628 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,920 a wicked looking shelf cloud that just and it was nighttime. 629 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:16,279 But there's lights, you know, ambient lights from around the city, 630 00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:18,640 around Lubeck and stuff. Not a lot, but there is. Man, 631 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,640 this thing rolled over the stadium and it just went 632 00:30:20,839 --> 00:30:25,480 it's black, and the stadium emptied like crazy because of 633 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,279 the lightning threat. You know, you had all the players 634 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:29,400 obviously in the locker, but you didn't have the people 635 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,799 out in the stands with the threat of lightning like that. 636 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,400 And it was a lengthy, lengthy delay. It was forty 637 00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,759 seven to nothing at the half Texas Tech, and then 638 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,720 they end up coming back and finishing the game sixty 639 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:44,359 seven to seven, which is what the Aggies should have 640 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,640 done to UTSA, but it wasn't to be. 641 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Texas Tech, I mean they're they're not scared to 642 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,400 score some points what Texas A and M should be. 643 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,319 I mean, they're they have that bravado that they're coming 644 00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:58,480 into our house and no matter where they go. And 645 00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,240 they also got the there not too much dissimilar than 646 00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,400 Texas A and M. They they they it's very much 647 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,559 out there that how much money they've spent in the 648 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,759 NIL to get their players there. So again, if it 649 00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,960 doesn't work out for Texas Tech this year, where do 650 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,359 you go spending all this money? And I think they're 651 00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,079 going to be viable when it comes to it. Can 652 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:18,039 they make the playoffs? 653 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see. 654 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:25,039 Speaker 3: But they're certainly putting the resources and the money to 655 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,799 make a team. And now it'll be relying on the 656 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,119 coaches because you're going to certainly get the kids. But 657 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680 they they handled their business. They did exactly what they 658 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480 were supposed to do. Unlike A and M. So you know, 659 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:37,319 if you want to give them a grade, yeah, is 660 00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:39,440 it a B plus? Is it you know, see, whatever 661 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,640 whatever it may be, I would just say it's they 662 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,799 did what they were supposed to do. 663 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: So check this out. It was a sixty seven to 664 00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:52,839 seven win. That includes a ninety minute weather delay at halftime. 665 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,880 And because of that, because of the lengthy delay and 666 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,240 the time of day, the time of night it was, 667 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,119 they shortened the third and fourth periods to eight minutes, Smart, 668 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,240 so you had two eight minute court he had a 669 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:09,119 sixteen minute second half, and the Red Raiders still put 670 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,839 up sixty seven on your favorite Golden Lions. 671 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: Smart, Golden Lions. 672 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,799 Speaker 1: It's the It's the Red raiders first preseason top twenty 673 00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:22,200 five ranking since two thousand and eight. Now, it wasn't 674 00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,839 all good news for the Red Raiders. Baron Morton threw 675 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,920 for two hundred and one yards and four touchdowns before 676 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:32,599 he left the game in a second quarter, limping after 677 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,119 a sack. He did not return. He stayed in the 678 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,839 game for a play, handed the ball off and then 679 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,720 Joey McGuire consulted with his medical staff and said, let's 680 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920 get him off the field. We don't need him anymore 681 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:48,160 against Johnny's favorite Golden Lions. But look, this is the 682 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,720 offense you expect to see, this air raid offense from 683 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,839 Joey McGuire and the Red Raiders. And if they're figuring 684 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,039 things out on defense, and you know, again they haven't 685 00:32:57,079 --> 00:32:59,759 really played anybody yet, but if they're starting to figure 686 00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:03,440 some on defense, if they can replace TODs Brooks in 687 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,920 the backfield, which it looks like they have, then dude, 688 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,200 this could be a dangerous team in the Big twelve. 689 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're certainly going to score points. And and you know, 690 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:14,440 it's a plug and play for them. Their system has 691 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,119 already set up with Joey McGuire. They're going to run 692 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,359 and gun. They're not gonna rely on defense. They're gonna 693 00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:21,839 certainly going to try to outscore you. And that's their 694 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,640 mo That's what Texas Tech has been forever, and they're 695 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,880 not changing who they are. 696 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,319 Speaker 4: That's why I like Texas Tech. 697 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,279 Speaker 3: I think in the past they just hadn't had the 698 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,240 athletes and the people to come there, especially the last 699 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,039 probably three or four years, with all these other big 700 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:37,680 name schools spending the money on the nil to get 701 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,319 these players. I think the world has changed a little 702 00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,960 bit for Texas Tech. Now they have the money and 703 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,880 now they're going to be able to get the athletes 704 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,119 and the guys. And don't be surprised, man if Texas 705 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,920 A and M is going to score have multiple games 706 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,279 as you're going to see over seventy points, especially at 707 00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,920 the very beginning. I think they're they want to get 708 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,559 these guys. I want to I think they want to 709 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,440 get their moders running right and just proved to say, 710 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,759 hey man, we're going to outscore you. 711 00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:05,319 Speaker 4: We don't care what the defense is. 712 00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,159 Speaker 1: Johnny, we got to talk a little acc football and 713 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,440 we got to talk about those sixteenth ranked SMU fighting 714 00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:16,679 Mustangs playing at the Hilltop right here in Dallas. They 715 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,840 handled business against the East Texas A and M. I 716 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,280 guess they're not so Golden Lions, even though gold is 717 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,599 one of their colors. Yeah, they just don't have the word. 718 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,400 They're just the Lions, which I guess the lizards, the 719 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,480 Golden Lizard Lions. Ahmad Moses returned an interception ninety five 720 00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:34,559 yards in this game for a touchdown, and then linebacker 721 00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:38,239 Alexander Kilgore also had to pick six on a much 722 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,079 stranger and much shorter play. As the Mustangs opened the 723 00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:46,079 season with a win. It didn't take long for the 724 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,039 Mustangs to get going in this one. They led for 725 00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:51,280 good after Kevin Jennings sixty three yard TD pass to 726 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,119 Romelo Brinson on the third play of the game less 727 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:56,880 than a minute end of the game. He completed twenty 728 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,039 two to thirty passes for two hundred and sixty yards, 729 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,039 two touchdowns, and he ran seven yards for another score. 730 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,800 Brenton had seven catches for one hundred and twenty one yards. 731 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:10,199 The big play from Moses made a twenty eight to 732 00:35:10,199 --> 00:35:15,960 three after East Texas got to the SMU eight. On 733 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,079 the first drive after halftime, he stepped in front of 734 00:35:18,119 --> 00:35:20,519 a pass by Eric Rodriguez and sprinted the length of 735 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:24,159 the field untouched. SMU only had the ball for twenty 736 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,360 one minutes for the entire game, they led twenty one 737 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,079 to three at halftime. They had eight penalties for eighty 738 00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,519 four yards, so definitely some things there to clean up. 739 00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,159 Kill Gore, Like we mentioned, he's one of the team's captains. 740 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:39,559 He got hurt on a ten yard TV returned in 741 00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,239 the first quarter. He was limping. He was on the 742 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,239 sideline after halftime on crutches and had a had his 743 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,079 foot in a boot. So not good things. Things not 744 00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:50,079 going well for kill Gore. He's gonna have to come back. 745 00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,320 He's one of their better middle linebackers. And then SMU 746 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,920 lost their top returning receiver, Jordan Hudson to an elbow 747 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960 injury on a seven yard catch on the first play 748 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,280 of the game. Uh, but look, SMU, they're gonna be 749 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,639 another one of the favorites in the ACC. I think 750 00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:07,599 they're they're ranked sixteen. I don't know. Again, I don't 751 00:36:07,599 --> 00:36:09,320 know how far you're going to climb the rankings by 752 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,280 beating East Texas A and M. But uh, certainly they 753 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,119 did what they needed to do barring the injuries in 754 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:17,880 their opening game. Thoughts. 755 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can only put you can only 756 00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,079 beat the opponent that's in front of you, right, It's 757 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,480 not their fault. I mean they're they're scheduling, and how 758 00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:26,400 do you beat them? I think really matters, And I 759 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,400 think I don't think it's going to be a deterrent 760 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,559 in terms of looking into the college football playoffs where 761 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:34,599 they were last year, uh, getting back in the college 762 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:38,239 football playoffs. But certainly style points does matter. Are you 763 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,480 supposed to beat the people that you're supposed to beat 764 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:41,639 in a handle fashion? 765 00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 4: Yes? 766 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 3: The challenge probably for the coaching staffs. And I'll put 767 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:47,719 you know, I'll put Texas Tech in there, and certainly 768 00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:50,840 smu is you know, how do you manage your players? 769 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,679 Speaker 4: You got a couple players hurt that. 770 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 3: Maybe didn't really need to be in there after that, 771 00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,159 but a little bit that's the first game of the year. 772 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,039 You know, you don't know how your body heals and 773 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:02,199 you get hit, and you know some of that's wear 774 00:37:02,199 --> 00:37:04,679 and tear, and you know a big difference between playing 775 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,639 injured and playing hurt, two big differences there. And it 776 00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,760 could be something simple and conditioning going into the season. 777 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,400 You see a lot of this, some of these guys 778 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,199 getting hurt early. Just not getting used to the pounding 779 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,400 and the hitting practice is one thing. But again smu 780 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,679 I think certainly it's the favorite for the ACC and 781 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,719 and certainly should they be. They're another team like Texas 782 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,679 Tech that's going it's super high powered, going to score 783 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,320 a lot of points. And are certainly going to try 784 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,280 to outscore you their advantages. You know, they're they're playing 785 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,119 in the conference that is certainly not nearly as dominant 786 00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:39,079 as the Big Twelve that Texas Tech is going to 787 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:42,400 be playing in, so maybe a little less competition. So 788 00:37:42,639 --> 00:37:45,840 maybe SMU, like they did last year, has to really 789 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,440 score a lot of points and style points will matter 790 00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,719 when it comes down to potentially making the college football playoffs. 791 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've seen some of the other ACC teams 792 00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:58,800 this over the weekend, obviously Florida State knocking off Alabama 793 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,480 and losing to LSU but playing pretty well. 794 00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 4: And then Miami what say we say ACC AAC. 795 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: Right, ACC Atlantic Coast Conference. Yeah, but yeah, so that's 796 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,840 gonna be a hard fought conference though for everybody. But 797 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,920 you know, we'll see what happens. Now we have we 798 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,800 got in the show, as I promised by bringing up 799 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:29,679 your Stephen f. Austin lumber Jacks. Uh, even though it 800 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,320 was not in a winning effort, Johnny Is the Houston 801 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,599 Cougars over the Lumberjacks at home twenty seven to nothing 802 00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:38,920 as Connor Wigman, the former Aggie, throws for one hundred 803 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,840 and fifty nine yards and three touchdowns to beat the Lumberjacks. 804 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,320 Now you're the you are the media member of notes 805 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,800 for the Lumberjacks. What's going on? And Steven F. Austin 806 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:56,199 is the coach getting fired after this loss? 807 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,199 Speaker 4: No, certainly not. I mean, listen, you can see it's 808 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:00,639 Stephen F. 809 00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 3: Also, I'm gonna have to refer to some of my 810 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,880 people that actually went to Stephen F. 811 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 4: Alston and Acadosius when it comes there. 812 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, jumping up to that Division IE level 813 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,719 a few years ago is something big for Steven F. 814 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,079 Speaker 4: Austin. 815 00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 3: Their their tradition is more of it's such a great 816 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,679 place to party, school and being around there more so 817 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,679 than athletics itself. If you look back and you know, 818 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,639 probably ten years ago when they made such a prodigious 819 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,039 run in basketball getting to the tournament for so long, 820 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,679 I think the notoriety there has built their their football 821 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,360 program to jump into that D one. But they're gonna 822 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,320 be what they are. Yeah, you know, it's it's nothing more, 823 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,679 nothing less. Southland Conference is something, you know, is it 824 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,480 still D one football? Yes, You're going to get some 825 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:50,440 athletes to go there. Maybe a little similar to Tarlton State, right, Yeah, yeah, yes, certainly. 826 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,000 But you know, where are your expectations harbor your expectations 827 00:39:55,039 --> 00:39:57,480 when it comes to SFA, And you know, Houston went 828 00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:59,440 there and did exactly what they were supposed to do 829 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,920 and playing that game, and you know, is it. Do 830 00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:04,800 I think Houston is going to be nearly as good 831 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,599 as they were in the last couple of years. No, 832 00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,199 probably not. I think that two or three run is 833 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,000 what you get. I don't think they have the money 834 00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:14,639 to pay these kids as much as the nil. I 835 00:40:14,639 --> 00:40:17,800 think they're gonna lose some kids to certainly to Texas 836 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,119 Tech and maybe some other schools that found some money 837 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,039 and getting pucking some of those kids maybe out of 838 00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:27,920 that Houston area that's very good in football. Uh so yeah, 839 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,639 I mean listen, SFA is what it is, Houston, Houston 840 00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:33,800 did their job, and uh you know, do I have 841 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,960 high expectations And no, this is probably the only time 842 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,239 we'll talk SFA football on the show. So, Hey, Lumberjacks, great, 843 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,360 it's a beautiful it's a beautiful camp. It's great place 844 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,079 to go to school, and one of the best golf 845 00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,480 courses in Texas right there at Crown Colony. So they 846 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,280 do have some positives maybe it's just not in the 847 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,000 football run. 848 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not with the football team. Of course, Houston's 849 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,719 defense played spectacularly, not allowing a point point the Cougar's 850 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,760 out gaining the Lumberjacks three hundred and forty three yards 851 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,440 to one hundred and forty four. Houston's coach Willie Fritz, 852 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,119 of course, attributed this win to the defense, as he should. 853 00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,280 But you still got to score points even when that happens. 854 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,239 So good time on both sides of the ball. We'll 855 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880 see how the Cougar season progresses. And that's gonna wrap 856 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,440 up our first ever edition of Pig Skin and Burn Ends. Johnny, 857 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,960 This was fun, wasn't it? What let's see this is again? 858 00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 4: It was great. Let's let's do it. 859 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,039 Speaker 3: I love talking I love talking football, especially Texas football, 860 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:32,039 and you know, maybe we'll throw in a little Texas 861 00:41:32,119 --> 00:41:34,760 high school football in this Pig Skin and burn INDs. 862 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,280 I followed Texas high school football a lot, just living 863 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920 there for as long as I have and then kind 864 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,039 of breaking those things down and talking talking Texas college football. 865 00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 4: No, this is great. 866 00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 3: You kind of push my buttons when when you asked 867 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,880 me to do this with you, I was it didn't 868 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,039 take me very long to say yes. So no, it's 869 00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,440 gonna be great moving forward, looking forward to it. Have 870 00:41:56,559 --> 00:42:00,239 Tito jump in and pop in for his his long 871 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,280 takes about Texas football, because you know. 872 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 4: He's gonna always poke the bear with the highest day. 873 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: But he's he's yeah, it's great, but no, looking forward 874 00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:10,880 to moving forward with this show and. 875 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 4: We'll see what We'll see what Week two happens in 876 00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:17,000 Texas Texas college football. Looking forward to talking about. 877 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,679 Speaker 1: We will be back next week with another big skin 878 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,639 and burn ins. Right here, I'm in the cartoon. That's 879 00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:24,320 Johnny Gerber. Until next time, boys and girls, We'll see 880 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:24,400 you