WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.679 --> 00:00:06.360 Man, it has been too long, Garry Jeff needs to 2 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.880 get paid. But we're back on a Saturday night night 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:15.080 cap here on seven other WLW and joining us. First 4 00:00:15.119 --> 00:00:19.280 off is my old friend, your old friend, Rick Robinson, 5 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:24.000 author of nineteen sixty eight and many many more wonderful books. 6 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:26.879 We'll be talking about books tonight. We'll be talking about 7 00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:33.159 somebody that you haven't seen or heard from in the 8 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:40.240 National Spotlight in Washington, DC, and possibly a new investment 9 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:46.159 opportunity for you in cryptocurrency. We'll see. Nothing's been officially 10 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.600 rolled out yet. We're still working on it. We're still 11 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:57.119 working on it. We're still working on the Ludlow Bromley cryptocurrency. Okay, okay, 12 00:00:57.159 --> 00:00:59.240 So he's wearing a T shirt that says straight out 13 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:01.840 of Bromley again, Rick Robinson, how are you from? I 14 00:01:01.880 --> 00:01:05.439 am doing wonderful, my friend. I am I good summer. 15 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:09.200 So I was just down at Cumberland River for about 16 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:13.359 four or five days fishing and the trout were jumping 17 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:15.799 into my into my creole. 18 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.480 It was a wonderful time. Isn't it amazing? 19 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.079 And I'm not going to get sidetracked with this too much, 20 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:24.439 but I think it still deserves mentioning now a week 21 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:29.719 out from the terrible tragedy in central Texas with the 22 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:35.519 flash floods, where there was in a very short amount 23 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:39.079 of time a river rose twenty six feet like within 24 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:41.920 about I don't know, an hour, forty eight minutes something 25 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:47.599 like that, and all of those poor kids and councilors 26 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:53.959 along with the townsfolk of cities like Kerville, Texas wiped away. 27 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:59.959 Basically horrible flash and whatever, you know, the usual source 28 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:03.920 for relief and help. But I saw an interview earlier 29 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.959 this week, and I guess now that a lot of 30 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.919 the cleanup and the recovery has happened here a week 31 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:14.879 Hence we can start talking about donations. And if you 32 00:02:14.960 --> 00:02:19.560 are one of those people who actively goes and does 33 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.639 things on site, you know maybe now. But I saw 34 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:27.120 an interview, just a heartbreaking interview with one of the survivors, 35 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.319 and he said, you know, there's no real reason to 36 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:32.479 come down here right now. 37 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:33.719 We just need your prayers. 38 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.719 And you know, Gary, Jeff, that's I think a great point, 39 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:44.960 because what has disturbed me even more than the incident 40 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:52.039 is both the left and the right politicizing horrible, horrible 41 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:56.439 natural I've heard it on the left more than I've 42 00:02:56.479 --> 00:02:58.560 heard it on the right. And it's not because I 43 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.159 haven't listened for it on the right. Mostly it's when 44 00:03:01.240 --> 00:03:04.759 Chuck Schumer came out earlier this week rick and started 45 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:10.039 blaming Donald Trump for a flood, the blame, the blame 46 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.759 on Biden's administration, when. 47 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:20.039 The blame is on nobody's administrations. 48 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:22.039 The blame. When Helene came to North Carolina and wiped 49 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:26.159 out those communities in a similar fashion. It was about 50 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:30.680 the response. It wasn't that it happened. I mean, this 51 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:36.400 was Chuck Schumer doesn't deserve to be in office anywhere. 52 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:40.599 He doesn't deserve to be in an office depot. That 53 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:44.879 guy is a cretan of the highest or lowest form, 54 00:03:45.159 --> 00:03:49.080 in my opinion. And it's just amount of can't we 55 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:51.280 all just hit the pause button? 56 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:52.840 Oh yeah, you. 57 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:57.039 Go and go, you know, say a prayer, talk to 58 00:03:57.080 --> 00:03:59.520 the Lord to give them guidance. 59 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:02.919 Short and some semblance of peace. 60 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:07.199 It isn't isn't this the time to not worry about 61 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.800 one side or the other, not to worry about that. 62 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:13.759 It's time to sit down and go. I can't well, well, 63 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:18.079 there's still the emotion, while there's still recovering bodies is 64 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:22.079 not the time to start pointing fingers politically. And that's 65 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.600 exactly what Schumer and some others on the left were 66 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:31.519 doing earlier in the week. Uh So, you're right, and 67 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:33.600 and and it should be an all out pause button 68 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:39.560 because politics aren't important. Politics aren't important most of the time. 69 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:44.319 Forget a forget a natural disaster tragedy like the one 70 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:49.160 that occurred in Texas or anywhere else. But it's certainly 71 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:53.240 the last place you need to inject politics into anything. 72 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:55.160 It doesn't matter if you're on the right or on 73 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:57.759 the left. I agree with you and I you know, 74 00:04:57.920 --> 00:05:00.279 and in the middle. You know, hey, we all may 75 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:07.319 all end up joining the libertarian gang whatever they end 76 00:05:07.399 --> 00:05:09.800 up calling it. You know, in the long time, I 77 00:05:10.480 --> 00:05:13.439 was kind of amused to see the libertarians raise their 78 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:15.360 hand and go, you know, if you want to get 79 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:19.519 behind somebody, we're over here, and we don't have any money, 80 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.720 you know, right, Well, that's that's a good point. Money 81 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:29.120 makes a big difference in politics, obviously, But it just 82 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.199 it sounds a lot like the Tea Party, which wound 83 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:37.879 up influencing the Republican Party more than it did anybody else. 84 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:42.399 And they those people kind of assimilated into the Republican 85 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:46.240 Party and changed it somewhat for the better. You know, 86 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:50.720 back during that timeframe, I was writing for a left 87 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:56.879 leaning magazine in the New England area, and I did 88 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:59.839 any other kind of magazine in the newes No, they're not, 89 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:03.439 but but I was. I was, as they said, I 90 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:07.560 was their token conservative. And uh, that's when things were 91 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:10.759 still funny. We don't have humor anymore. But I wrote 92 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:13.079 a column. I can't even remember what the point of 93 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.319 it being, but they it was the first gathering of 94 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:20.439 the Tea Party. Oh that happened in that area. That 95 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.680 actually did the whole thing. And you know, I did 96 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:24.560 this column about how that's going to influence this and 97 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:28.040 everything else that I remember everybody at the magazine going, oh, pshaw, 98 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.279 you're just trying to get a laugh. Well that was true. 99 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:35.279 I was trying to get a laugh. But that being said, 100 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:37.759 I it. It did have an influence it and and 101 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:42.160 later actually got involved with some people down in Florida 102 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:46.319 who were Cubans who were involved in the Rubio campaign, 103 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.360 and that was that was eye opening to me. I 104 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:50.360 did a couple of columns about that at the time, 105 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:54.959 and they were the folks that were really behind the 106 00:06:55.959 --> 00:07:00.759 Rubio campaign for Senate and just found the whole thing fascinating. 107 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:04.120 I had I had a car ride one point from 108 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:10.720 Tampa to a fundraiser down in somewhere outside Miami, and 109 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:16.439 I remember everybody in the car arguing because you had 110 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.800 one thing. And this is kind of what I remember 111 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:20.680 from the timeframe of the Tea Party is you had 112 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:27.639 one section of the movement that wanted to change the 113 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:33.040 Republican Party. You had another segment of the of the 114 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:37.199 Tea Party that wanted to blow up everything and start over, okay. 115 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:41.000 And it's interesting on how that has played out over 116 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.600 the last couple of years and what's going on. You know, 117 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:45.560 I was thinking about that when we were getting ready 118 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.079 to do this today, was that I didn't have time 119 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.759 to go on and take a look at If you 120 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.800 ever want to know what's going on in Cuba and 121 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:54.279 Cuban American relations, go. 122 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:58.839 To a blog called the bab Bahloo Blog Baba Loo Mamlou. 123 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:06.639 A loan website on an island of revolt or something 124 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:09.000 of that nature, but it's a brilliant site that tells 125 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:10.839 you what's going on on a day to day Pasis 126 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:15.000 from sources within within Cuba, and those are the guys 127 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:16.680 that I was traveling around with, and it was just 128 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:21.240 a fascinating idea. The Tea Party of Again, did they 129 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.560 want to influence it from within or did they. 130 00:08:23.439 --> 00:08:24.240 Want to blow it up? 131 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.160 Well, you know, you can make the argument that President 132 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:30.360 Trump kind of blew up the Republican Party. 133 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:32.639 That's where I was going with them. Yeah. 134 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:37.120 Absolutely, And so since we went that way, you came 135 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:43.799 in tonight telling me about the person in Washington, DC 136 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:49.480 that we haven't heard about or heard from really or 137 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:54.080 seen except in photo ops on camera in cabinet meetings. 138 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.519 The one person that we haven't really seen or heard 139 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:04.039 from in the Trumpet minute stration, Susie Wiles. When have 140 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.799 we heard anything about Susie Wiles lately? Like I said, 141 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:11.279 I saw her on camera earlier, the camera. She's always 142 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.120 there in the background. She she showed up now her 143 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.519 big thing. Let let's just let's just be You've known 144 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:20.759 Susie for a long time. Susie came up through Jack 145 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:25.799 Kemp worked in the Reagan administration. Uh you know, you know, 146 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:28.679 so they worked in HW's administration. 147 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:30.039 Father. 148 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:31.879 For those of you paying attention to keep the score 149 00:09:31.960 --> 00:09:36.799 out there, Pat Summer all the NFL quarterback and broadcaster. 150 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:39.080 That was her father. Wow. 151 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.039 And so when she went to Kemp's office, I don't 152 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.720 think she really was going as a because that was 153 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:45.840 her political leaning. 154 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:47.440 I think she went. 155 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:49.759 Because dad got her the job, right, Okay, All and 156 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.799 kept know each other. But as she goes along, she 157 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.639 goes on more on the political side than she does 158 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.000 on the policy side. But she has a couple of 159 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:05.639 very important rules. One is set goals, Two is set deadlines. 160 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:11.639 Three is do better on both. Oh good, I like that. Well, 161 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.600 but think about this. You talk about the big you know, 162 00:10:14.639 --> 00:10:16.360 whether you want to call it the big beautiful bill 163 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:17.639 or the big beautiful blunder. 164 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.559 What happened, Well, depending on your point of view. 165 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:27.639 Right, they set a deadline, Right, they set different different goals. 166 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.159 They said various things in there. And it wasn't a 167 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:35.440 matter of, oh, we can push this after the fourth No, 168 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.840 it was I think that's Susie Wilde's influence in this. 169 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.519 Now she does go down. The one thing I found 170 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:45.200 in news searches over the last couple of weeks, the 171 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:51.240 only time she's ever she's peered really since inaugural in 172 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:56.039 anything substantive was she did sneak into a Republican conference 173 00:10:56.080 --> 00:11:01.879 in the Senate m hm and again saying what we 174 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:06.360 have a deadline. It was amazing that they and I 175 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:11.159 think that a while. And you think, Susie Wiles, this 176 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:13.759 is her fingerprints all over. Oh yeah, she she is. 177 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.919 She is uh lee atwater without the loud mouth and 178 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.519 southern and southern accent. Okay, she's brilliant politically yeah uh 179 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:25.840 you know, got to remember prior to Trump, she also 180 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:29.759 got involved in the Scott campaign for governor. She literally, 181 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:35.639 uh Ronda Santis. She saved that campaign for governor. She 182 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:40.960 is a brilliant strategist and most importantly, she's very much 183 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.600 the loyalist. You will never And I think that a 184 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:45.919 lot of things are happening because we're not getting leaks, 185 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.080 we're not getting anything else. I think the final, the 186 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.279 final conversation that's being had in the White House, when 187 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.720 all the all the chips are in the on a table, 188 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.279 I think Trump is looking across the table and going 189 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:02.360 Susie last word mm hmmm. And politically, I think that's 190 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:07.440 why a lot of his measures are getting through and happening. 191 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:14.320 And again, nobody knows you know the leaks aren't happening. Okay, 192 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:17.039 we'll give I ran two weeks to get this taken 193 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:20.200 care of. Two days later, boom, there's only one person 194 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.080 in the White House saying. But he didn't say they 195 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.639 have two weeks. He said, I'll decide within the next 196 00:12:25.639 --> 00:12:30.039 two weeks. And later was within the next two weeks, 197 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.480 and because they'd already had sixty one days to comply. 198 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:35.879 And who was the last person that you think whispered 199 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.840 that in his air before he said it? Susie, I 200 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:41.519 think so, I think that I think her fingerprints are 201 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:44.759 all over what is happening right now. But he did 202 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.879 not say they have two weeks. He said I'll decide 203 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.159 within the next two weeks. Correct, very very important that way, 204 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:55.200 very very very important. And again I think something that 205 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:00.320 very wild, very in the in central case, you know, 206 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:04.440 she's she is central casting of the of the of 207 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:09.559 the mind, behind the strategy, the back room power broker. Yeah, 208 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:14.840 she definitely is. Definitely. So I mean, since we uh, 209 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.200 just for a couple of minutes in this segment, Rick 210 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.039 Robinson is our guest here on the Nightcap on a 211 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:23.879 Saturday night. Yeah, how come every time I come in 212 00:13:23.879 --> 00:13:27.320 for the nightcap. I have to bring my own drink. Well, 213 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.320 I have some unsweetened iced tea. Well, I mean, I mean, 214 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.120 you're you're you're coming over here from from Huddles and 215 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.360 you think you would bring me a Manhattan or something 216 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.519 for the evening man Hatton? 217 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.559 Oh my god, howbout a Rob. 218 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:47.399 Roy Oh so, the you mentioned the big beautiful bill, 219 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:51.440 the big beautiful blunder, whatever way you want to characterize it, 220 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.480 already is being talked about. James Carvell spoke to this 221 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.399 earlier this week. It's going to be a boon for 222 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:59.960 the Democrats in twenty six They're going to get forty 223 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:02.440 seats in the House. They're going to take back over 224 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:06.720 the Senate, all because of the bill that passed last 225 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:10.480 Friday on the fourth of July. And I'm not so sure. 226 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:13.600 I don't know if the Democrats are organized enough right 227 00:14:13.639 --> 00:14:17.879 now and have any kind of leadership right now to 228 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.679 orchestrate that kind of a blue wave next year. 229 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:22.799 What are your thoughts. 230 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.600 If James Carvill were whispering in the leadership ears like 231 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:30.240 he did during the Clinton administration, they should be Republicans 232 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.279 should be worried. But the fact of the matter is 233 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:37.080 he's not he's again like while brilliant strategists, forget him 234 00:14:37.080 --> 00:14:41.279 on policy. He's a strategist, that's what he is, right, 235 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:44.559 And I don't think anybody's thinking I don't think anybody's 236 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.000 listening to the reptile any No, they don't. 237 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:48.240 That's just it. Nobody. 238 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.480 Look how many times have you and I talked about this. 239 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.879 They have an opportunity to make an m road here, 240 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:59.080 they really do. And so my response is it's way 241 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.279 too early to tell, but they have the opportunity to 242 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.480 make an inroad on all of this. And what are 243 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:09.399 we hearing about? What do we still continue to hear 244 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:17.840 about Leah Thompson swimming right didn't work for him last election? Well, 245 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.559 and if they better be listening to to to either 246 00:15:20.639 --> 00:15:24.399 carvill or somebody, Thank god, it's for Linda McMahon and 247 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:29.320 Donald Trump. Lea Thomas isn't thinking about Leah Thomas. I 248 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.440 think Lea Thomas is thinking about growing a beard, cutting 249 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:36.000 his hair and going back to the boys locker room, 250 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:41.159 you know. But it's an issue that they tried. It 251 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.000 didn't work, it's not going to work, and yet they 252 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:49.240 go back to the same issue right now. He's talking 253 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.679 about it in California. Yeah, they're refusing to comply with 254 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:55.759 Title nine with the law in California because we have 255 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:58.799 our own law and we just will not buckle down. 256 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.720 And you know, Colin Linda McMahon all kinds of absurd 257 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.759 names and saying that this isn't professional wrestling, and uh, 258 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:10.480 you know, it's it's comical that they're doing this, and 259 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:12.919 they're gonna threaten us in the wards of James Carvel 260 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:17.639 that ain't going hunt, that dog ain't going hunt. No, no, pardon, 261 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:20.000 pardon me. I don't have a very good Bayou accent. 262 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:27.519 I didn't do my impersonation for our purposes tonight. It's 263 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.679 just fun. I usually do better impersonations, you know that. 264 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.919 I mean I used to. I used to play Reagan 265 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.919 on Eddie Show and years ago. We all have our 266 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:40.440 fortes as far as imitating people's voices. I used to 267 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:43.960 do a killer Casey Kaseum, but seemingly since he died, 268 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.919 it's not as in demand as it used to be. 269 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:49.480 There's not a big call for. 270 00:16:51.159 --> 00:16:54.440 Maybe maybe we'll do some long distance dedications. 271 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:58.759 Next half written in this sentence is out to Dave 272 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:02.919 Hatter in love Low Kentuck. All right, listen. 273 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:07.279 Uh, this is for Terra in San Diego, who said, Casey, 274 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:12.880 I wish there was a good feminine hygiene product that 275 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.640 covered more than your armpits. 276 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:21.799 Can you please play that Smell by Lynyrd SKINNERD. Listen. 277 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.960 We'll take a break and come back more with the 278 00:17:25.079 --> 00:17:28.880 Rick Robinson on this Nightcap after a break in the 279 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.559 and the news here on seven hundred w LW. 280 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:35.480 I hope you're having a good night. 281 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:38.599 I'm having a lovely time in the first hour the 282 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:42.160 special Saturday Night Cap talking to my old buddy Rick Robinson, 283 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:46.160 author of nineteen sixty eight and many more wonderful books, 284 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:50.279 rid Of, rid Of Mandamus, rid of Yeah, which is 285 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.640 my favorite one that's actually worth the some of the 286 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.279 other books that you well, So I have. I have 287 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:01.759 basically two different genres that I write, and the nineteen 288 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.400 sixty eight was kind of a one off for me 289 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:08.200 of doing a non fiction historical book, but there I 290 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.559 have quite a few in the political thriller genre. Yeah, 291 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.839 and then I've also I also created my own genre. 292 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:20.359 Really yeah, I am a creator. I did I did. 293 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:20.640 So. 294 00:18:20.680 --> 00:18:22.880 I have two books and I'm working on a third 295 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.480 that I refer to as come in of age novels 296 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:27.400 for old guys with gray hair that never came of 297 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:31.200 age yet. Now it's hard to fit that, hard to 298 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:33.640 fit that on the New York Times bestseller list. You 299 00:18:33.640 --> 00:18:36.119 know where you're going, right, But since I'm the only 300 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:39.400 I've written the only two, I think you'll feel like 301 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:40.200 I'm right up there. 302 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:41.880 You got to be in. I'm right up there. Yeah, 303 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:43.160 I'm right at the top of those things. 304 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:47.200 So so, so what is that genre? Give me an example? 305 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:50.319 The genre is so. What happened was when when I 306 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:54.440 was true story. That's how I got into writing. When 307 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:58.079 I was seventeen years old, an English teacher at Ludlow 308 00:18:58.160 --> 00:19:04.400 High School took me to meet Jesse Stewart, the Mountain 309 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:09.599 Laureate of Kentucky pull a surprise nominee for The Thread 310 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:13.359 That Runs So True, brilliant writer about growing up in 311 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:17.440 the hills of eastern Kentucky from w Holla, Kentucky. And 312 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.440 I was just fascinated by the man. I was his 313 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:23.480 go to guy for the day. Basically, what I had 314 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:24.839 to do is I had to run again a pack 315 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.119 of cigarettes every time he smoked through a whole pack 316 00:19:27.160 --> 00:19:27.480 of them. 317 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:30.000 But I got to. 318 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.160 Annoy him gave me one of his books. It did everything, 319 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.319 and I was convinced that what I needed to do 320 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.359 was to write the great Coming of age novel. Now 321 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:43.880 the problem was I was seventeen years old. That's one 322 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:45.759 of the jokes my children liked to tell was that 323 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:47.559 you know, Dad right was coming of age novel and 324 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:52.279 couldn't do it until he was forty. But the idea, 325 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.440 the concept is is that when you hit these different 326 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:58.519 markers and this book that I had to have been 327 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:00.279 going through my brain for a long time. I had 328 00:20:00.279 --> 00:20:05.640 this crazy uncle who everybody has that crazy uncle. I 329 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:10.200 really had him. My great uncle, Chip Thompson loved to fish. 330 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:12.880 Everything was about fishing. He comes home one day and 331 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:14.839 his wife says, Chip, you got to make a bigger mind. 332 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:16.880 It's near the fish. So he took all of his 333 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:21.640 stuff through it in the back of his surplus army jeep, 334 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.880 drove to the Everglades and never came back, no kidding. 335 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.079 Came back on vacations and stuff, but lived down there 336 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:29.880 for the rest of his life. And so I wanted 337 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:32.480 to write this story about searching for the soul of 338 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:37.000 Chip Thompson. Kept working on it, working on working on 339 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:38.799 I don't think I really came up to a story. 340 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:42.240 So I started hitting fifty, started peeking over the edge 341 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:43.720 of fifty. And that's one of the you know, that's 342 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:46.119 kind of the marker where you look at and go, 343 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:50.799 am I successful? Did I do what I wanted to 344 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:52.599 do in life? I really wanted to be Uncle Chip. 345 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.559 I want to be spent my life, you know, guiding fish, 346 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.960 guiding down and down in and everglades. And all I 347 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:01.680 really picked up I'm from was you know, smoking and 348 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:06.240 liking to bet on horses. You know, I didn't pick up. 349 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.400 And so this story is about the coming of age 350 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:12.920 at fifty, of going what is success? What is something 351 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:15.119 that you know? What is it that I've done with 352 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.400 my life? And is there some if I can wave 353 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:19.000 the magic wand and start over? 354 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:20.400 Would I? Well? 355 00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:23.039 You know the thing that that reminds me of Rick 356 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:30.599 is it Alligator Alley available on ampum. I have Alligator Alley, 357 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:35.759 which is short for Alcatraz. Anyway, what it kind of 358 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:39.839 reminds me of is the fact that I've had about 359 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:43.240 three or four different comings of age in my life, 360 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.559 and I've had about three or four just in this business. Yeah, 361 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.240 because I've had to reinvent myself so many times and 362 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:53.400 had to look back and go, is this what I 363 00:21:53.440 --> 00:21:58.400 was supposed to be doing? And maybe not? Or is 364 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:02.160 there something else there? And at every turn there has 365 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.839 been something else there. But if, but if you could 366 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:09.640 waive the magic wand and change your destiny, would you 367 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:10.000 do it? 368 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:10.400 No? 369 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:14.039 See, that's what this guy is faced with. That's what 370 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:17.640 the main character is faced with in this particular novel. 371 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:21.000 Second novel in the Coming of Age series is called 372 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:24.559 The Promise of cedar Key, and it's about turning sixty. 373 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.000 I've told my kids that, you know, the next book 374 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:28.519 is going to be about turning seventy, and it's going 375 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:33.480 to be all blank pages. But that's not that's not hopeful. 376 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:35.960 I'm working on I'm working on that one too. Actually, 377 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:40.440 we're working on potentially a movie deal for Alligator Alley. 378 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:42.440 So that's oh, that's a lot of fun, a lot 379 00:22:42.480 --> 00:22:44.480 of fun. Yeah, I'm finishing up the script right now, 380 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.799 as we worked on it this morning on Saturday, since 381 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:49.599 I got back from fishing, worked on that, came over 382 00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:50.640 here and joined the program. 383 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.119 So all right, well it's great to have you. So 384 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:56.960 my bitcoin you got to plug my bitcoin. 385 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:58.759 Because I mean, I mean, I'm saving that for the 386 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:02.400 last Okay, that's part of this, all right. Rick Robinson 387 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.519 is our guest tonight. You went to the Library Association meeting. 388 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:11.440 American Library Association, one of the great great meetings of 389 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.319 everything that is literature in America. Oh, this is sinilating 390 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.359 conversation for a Saturday night on talk radio. So tell 391 00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.640 me about the American Library Association meeting and why people 392 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:28.200 should care. Why people should care is if I totally 393 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:33.160 and completely agree with the librarians do not ban books. 394 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.920 We have been banning books since the time of of 395 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:40.079 of JD. Salinger and Catcher in the rye. Don't ban books? 396 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.720 What's with your kids reading? The cultures banned papyrus. But 397 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:50.279 more importantly, I wish the librarians would get out and 398 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:54.440 ban bad writing. Oh my god, there were some books 399 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.480 up there that and people that I were talking to, 400 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.680 walking around the booths, talking to people, catching up with 401 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.119