1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Petlifradio dot com. 2 00:00:08,679 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: Welcome to Animal rights on pet Life Radio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,800 Tim Link, and I thank you for joining us today. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,640 My guest today is Bruce Cameron, and Bruce will be 5 00:00:18,679 --> 00:00:23,039 talking about is New York Times bestselling novel A Dog's Purpose. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,839 And you love this book if you haven't read it already, 7 00:00:26,399 --> 00:00:28,359 And of course the book is written from a dog's 8 00:00:28,399 --> 00:00:31,559 point of view, so it's a great, great novel. So 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,079 we want to talk a little bit to Bruce about 10 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:35,799 that today, as well as all of his other wonderful projects. 11 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:38,880 But first, I always like to give tidbits, little stories, 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,840 things that help you out or make you smile, And 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,880 today we got a little bit of helpful hint, a 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,039 little tip for you to check out if you're not 15 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:49,200 already aware of it. Usually, if it's like my pets, 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:54,000 it's time for annual vaccination. An annual vaccination time for 17 00:00:53,759 --> 00:00:56,920 the dogs and the animals, and there's usually a whole 18 00:00:57,039 --> 00:01:00,280 host of vaccinations that your veterinarians are going to reckon into. 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,399 And as you know, vaccinating your pets are it's a 20 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:05,719 responsible thing to do, it's an important thing to do, 21 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:07,920 and the best time to do it is to do 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,159 an annual check up and get the shots done. Then, 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,120 what you may not be aware of is that you 24 00:01:13,159 --> 00:01:15,920 may be able to have your pet vaccinated every three 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,079 years for rabies rather than annually. Your vet would be 26 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:22,319 able to tell you more about this and whether your 27 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:26,319 particular state's law permits a three year rabies vaccine to 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,519 be given to your pets, So check in with your 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,439 vetinarians when you're going in for your annual shots and 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,079 or your annual checkups. 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: You know. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,879 Speaker 2: One other interesting point is that the immunity provided by 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,200 some vaccines lasts for much longer than a year, even 34 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:44,439 though we traditionally get annual shots for our pets. So 35 00:01:44,519 --> 00:01:46,200 a great way to find out if your pet is 36 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:49,280 still protected by a particular vaccine is to ask your 37 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:54,079 vetinarium to do a tighter it's titer. Tighters are tests 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,000 that measure the level of antibodies in the blood indicate 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,799 whether immunity still exists. So if you'd like to learn 40 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:04,239 more about this, obviously you can contact your veterinarian and 41 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:06,280 ask them a little bit more about doing a tighter 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,199 before doing the annual shots to determine if it's fully needed. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,319 Also ask them about the three year rabies shot. And 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,960 of course, if you'd like to learn more about the 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,960 three year rabies vaccine or tighters, you visit my blog 46 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,000 on pet Life Radio. Go to Animal Rights blog on 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,120 pet Life Radio and click on the links to the 48 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:27,520 two articles that I've submitted on the blog. And one 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,759 of the things I do want to say on the 50 00:02:28,759 --> 00:02:32,400 three years rabies vaccination. Now, I'm not a veterinarian, but 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,479 I've got this cleared through my veterinarian and other people 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,759 as well. A three year vaccine for rabies for your 53 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:42,120 pet doesn't mean it's three times the potency. A lot 54 00:02:42,159 --> 00:02:44,120 of people feel it's you think that, oh, it's a 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,120 three year vaccine, since we usually do it annually, it 56 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:49,439 must be three times the potency. That's not the case. Actually, 57 00:02:49,479 --> 00:02:53,000 each state has examined the rabies threat in their particular 58 00:02:53,039 --> 00:02:56,919 state and determine it's really necessary to do an annual vaccine. 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,759 Were to spread it out to a three year rabies vaccine, 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,479 so it's the same potency, same shot, everything's exactly the same. 61 00:03:03,879 --> 00:03:05,680 It's just that you may be able to spread it 62 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:09,039 out to every three years instead of every year. That's 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,199 making your pet well protected. Against Rabi's and also make 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,960 them a lot happier and put a little bit more 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,759 money in your pocketbook as well, So keep that in mind. 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,879 Check it out, go to the Animal Rights blog on 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,360 Petlife Radio petlifradio dot com and find out more about 68 00:03:24,479 --> 00:03:27,680 those topics. Now we're going to go into a commercial break, 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,439 but everybody stay tuned. We have Bruce Cameron come in 70 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,520 on talk about his best selling book, A Dog's Purpose 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,240 and all the other wonderful things that Bruce has up asleep. 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,560 So everybody stay tuned. 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Bet Bets 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:19,000 for Pets every week only on Petlifradio dot com. 113 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 4: Let's talk Pets on Petlife Radio dot com. 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,959 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, everybody. You're listening to Animal Rights 115 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,600 on pet Life Radio. Thanks for joining me. I want 116 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:34,720 to introduce Bruce Cameron to you. Bruce Cameron is a 117 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:38,240 New York Times bestselling author, obviously an animal lover and 118 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,120 an award winning, nationally syndicated humor columnist. Always fun to 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,720 talk to, Bruce, Bruce, Welcome to Animal Rights on pet 120 00:06:44,759 --> 00:06:45,399 Life Radio. 121 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,199 Speaker 11: Oh thanks, thanks for having me. 122 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure. I always love talking to you, 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,720 and of course that I love this book, A Dog's Purpose, 124 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:55,439 a novel for humans. I love that. People are probably 125 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:58,240 very familiar with your work from the past. But obviously 126 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,959 you've written some best selling nonfiction books such as How 127 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,800 to Remodel a Man and Eight Simple Rules for Dating 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 My teenage Daughter. But A Dog's Purpose is your first 129 00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:11,680 fictional novel. So yeah, So tell us how you came 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,360 about writing this book and taking the approach from giving 131 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:17,560 it from A Dog's perspective. 132 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:19,519 Speaker 11: Well, I had this question in my mind, which is, 133 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 what would what would it be like? What would happen 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,000 if your dog never really dies? What if he is reborn, 135 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,240 and if in the process of being reborn remembers his 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,040 past lives? What would that look like from a dog's perspective? 137 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:37,319 And so I answered the question with a novel for humans, 138 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:39,639 although some people read it to their dogs. That a 139 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,800 novel for humans a dog's purpose and it tells the 140 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:50,000 story of this this amazing dog who lives several lives 141 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:52,800 and with each life learns lessons that helps him with 142 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,680 the next life. 143 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,319 Speaker 2: And you know, that's always whether we're talking about a 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,160 spiritual conversation, a humorous conversation, whatever may be, that that 145 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,560 is something we all want to know, we want to 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,480 know in our lives. Would that be possible? Is that possible? 147 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,759 And obviously is it possible for our animals as well? 148 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,480 And though you take an approach not addressing it from 149 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,879 a spiritual manner or otherwise, this book we probably ten 150 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,839 times the size, but it's a lovely approach because it 151 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:21,639 really does give it you if this could happen, which 152 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:24,639 will debate whether it does or doesn't. But more importantly, 153 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:27,519 what would happen, What would happen if it happened, especially 154 00:08:27,519 --> 00:08:28,439 to our animals. 155 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that I don't try to urge people 156 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:34,159 to pick this up and use it as a way 157 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,519 to understand or believe in reincarnation. The reincarnation thing is 158 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:44,000 just sort of a way into the mind and life 159 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,080 of a dog, a dog who, because of his several 160 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,919 lives matures it becomes more and more sophisticated. Unlike the 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,559 twenty week old puppy that I have right now at 162 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,840 my feet, who's looking for thinkings to chew on, hopefully 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,559 not my feet. This dog eventually becomes very wise and 164 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:01,879 develop a sense that there must be a purpose in 165 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,039 his life. And that's really I really think that when 166 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:09,320 we when we have a pass, when we have dogs, 167 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,559 sometimes we look at them and we see an old soul. 168 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,039 Sometimes we look at them and realize that they might 169 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:18,159 very well be capable of contemplating that they have a 170 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,720 purpose in life and be conscious of it and thinking 171 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,000 about it. And that's all. This particular dog is a 172 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:25,879 regular dog. I mean that a lot of people have 173 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:29,120 written books from a dog's perspective. This one's unique because 174 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,240 it's a real dog. It doesn't. It doesn't have a 175 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:35,799 sophisticated understanding. It doesn't understand English, really, it knows a 176 00:09:35,799 --> 00:09:38,919 couple hundred words at the most. So and everything that 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,240 happens is interpreted through the dog's experience, and it's not 178 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,679 always true that the dog understands exactly what's going on. 179 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,720 That the dog may feel that there's there's something completely 180 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,879 different happening, or it'll be listening to a conversation and 181 00:09:53,919 --> 00:09:57,519 nobody says anything about car ride or biscuits or anything, 182 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,679 so he thinks it's just a bunch of noise. He 183 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,360 doesn't he doesn't see any significance in it at all. 184 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: Exactly. 185 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 11: The humor in this then comes from the there's a 186 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:08,159 lot of times when the dog just completely misunderstands what's 187 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,279 going on. And this is because dogs are so joyous. 188 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,480 In a dog's purpose, the dog is a joyous animal 189 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,120 because that's how dogs attack the world. 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: That's right, And if they don't get it right the 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,399 first time, no worries. They have another opportunity, so they 192 00:10:21,399 --> 00:10:23,639 don't let it get them down like us humans do often. 193 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,639 Speaker 11: That's right. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot we can 194 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,360 learn from our dogs, and we just watch them and 195 00:10:27,399 --> 00:10:29,679 try to live like the dogs. I remember once when 196 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,320 I was just out of college, liberal arts major, so 197 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,159 naturally I was painting houses for a living, and I 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,200 brought my two labradors with me to this place way 199 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,360 out in western Kansas. So it was completely flat, this 200 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,200 house that was like out in the middle of nowhere, 201 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,480 like an oasis of human life in the middle of 202 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,960 these flat planes that I was up on the ladder painting, 203 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,320 and the dogs just decided to run and run and run. 204 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:57,960 And they were just running in a straight line until 205 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,559 they were mere specks on the horizon. And finally whistled 206 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,519 them back and they came back, and the looks on 207 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,960 their faces were like, this is the greatest day ever. 208 00:11:07,519 --> 00:11:09,559 And I'd been up on that ladder thinking, you know, 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,039 why am I applying a code of paint to a house? 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,440 Why did I go to college? And I looked at 211 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,320 them and realized I need to live life like the 212 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,440 dogs do. And it's that joy that propelled me into 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,559 writing A Dog's Purpose. 214 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,639 Speaker 2: Now I think it's great at I tell people all 215 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,360 the time, you know, we need to live life like 216 00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,080 a dog. People ask me, what can you learn from 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,799 your dogs? Well, live like they do, and they understand 218 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:30,960 their purpose for being here. And you know, now we've 219 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,279 always heard about cats having nine lives, but the dogs 220 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:39,080 in your book, there's four different incarnations, one being Toby, Bailey, Ellie, 221 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,480 and Buddy. Were any of these dogs based on any 222 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,799 dogs in your life or dogs that you have met 223 00:11:43,799 --> 00:11:44,440 in your life? 224 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:44,759 Speaker 10: Well? 225 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:47,879 Speaker 11: Sure, I mean the life of Toby starts off as 226 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:51,639 he's a feral dog at first, and he's living a 227 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,639 way out of contact with humans, so he finds himself 228 00:11:55,039 --> 00:11:58,720 oddly drawn, so oddly drawn to humans. I mean, so 229 00:11:58,879 --> 00:12:01,480 in a Dog's Purpose, the very first thing we learn 230 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,559 is what a life is like for a dog without people, 231 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,480 and of course it's a really awful life, but the 232 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:09,759 dog doesn't know that. The dog just thinks it's life 233 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:13,639 and attacks the attacks the day with joy, and then 234 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:18,639 later he's picked up by a hoarder. So that particular 235 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,960 life was mostly me imagining and what it must be 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,320 like for a dog to be without people and to 237 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:29,039 have to scrounge in the trash for food. It's not 238 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,120 a pretty existence for dogs, and there are so many 239 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,879 dogs out there that live a life like that. But 240 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,399 the next life, of course, as Bailey. He's a family pet. 241 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:46,000 And there's a scene where Bailey meets the boy for 242 00:12:46,039 --> 00:12:49,559 the first time, is an eight year old boy, and 243 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,960 they just come together and roll together in the grass. 244 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,200 And that's exactly what happened when I first met my 245 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,159 very first dog when I was eight years old. The 246 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,200 two of us just ran to each other. We were 247 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,399 so excited see each other. He was a puppy, I 248 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,080 was a little boy, And you know that that moment 249 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:07,960 I will always remember so sure. In a Dog's Purpose, 250 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,320 some of the dogs very much are like the dogs that. 251 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: I've had in my life, absolutely, and so you learn 252 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,159 from them. And now you wrote a book. 253 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 11: About it, so you know, I think. And I'll tell 254 00:13:20,759 --> 00:13:23,000 you the best part about a Dog's Purpose a little 255 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 bit of a plot spoiler, but you don't You don't 256 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,879 wind up going to a funeral in the very end. 257 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:29,240 We don't bury the dog in the very end. It's 258 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,519 not that kind of book. I remember growing up and 259 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,480 reading like Old the Heller and just being so upset 260 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:37,759 by the the ending of that book, and it just 261 00:13:37,799 --> 00:13:40,440 tore me up. That doesn't happen in a Dog's Purpose. 262 00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:43,320 Your listeners out there can rest assured this is not 263 00:13:43,399 --> 00:13:46,080 one of those books where the very last page the 264 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:47,159 main character dies. 265 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:50,879 Speaker 2: That is great because I remember, if you remember the 266 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:55,600 book and the television show where the red fern grows 267 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,360 to reflect the back. I remember my grade school teacher 268 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,600 assigning not only to read but watch the show because 269 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:04,879 the show was just being released on TV. And that 270 00:14:05,039 --> 00:14:09,120 was extremely depressing for a young young boy because nobody 271 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:11,120 knows that one dog dies and the other one dies 272 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,120 of grieving. It's like, oh my gosh, I'm sure there's 273 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:14,679 a lesson, but I don't need to know that as 274 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:15,039 a child. 275 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 11: That's right. Yeah, So a dog's purpose isn't like that. 276 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: That's right. And you say that I've read in here 277 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,000 that a dog's purpose is to love humans and to 278 00:14:25,039 --> 00:14:28,080 teach humans how to love unconditionally as dogs do. 279 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:30,919 Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say that that's my definition of a 280 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,440 dog's purpose. That isn't necessarily the conclusion that the dog reaches. 281 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:38,600 But if you ask me, well, what is a dog's purpose? 282 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:42,360 I would say, we have bred them to love us, 283 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,720 and they probably had a natural inclination that way to 284 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,919 begin with. But they you know, my dog thinks I'm 285 00:14:49,919 --> 00:14:53,240 the center of his universe. He doesn't understand why I 286 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,279 won't let him too in my high school yearbook. But 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,919 other than that, he thinks I'm the greatest exactly. 288 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: Well, believe me, I let my chew out my pictures 289 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,159 from my high school yearbook. 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And I know the message came out 354 00:18:56,759 --> 00:18:59,079 just not too long ago that the book's gonna be 355 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:01,680 a little more than just a book. I understand you 356 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,440 signed an agreement with Dreamwork Studios. 357 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I Dreamwork Studios picked up the option 358 00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:11,920 and hired my writing partner, Catherine Meshaan and me to 359 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:17,279 write the screenplay, and then we have already turned in 360 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:19,240 the first draft. They were really excited to get that. 361 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: So it's all going really well fantastic. Is there any 362 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:24,920 projected dates or times that the projects should be ready? 363 00:19:25,079 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 11: You know, things move out here I live. I live 364 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,720 in Los Angeles, and things in Hollywood move very slowly 365 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,559 and strangely, and then suddenly it's like there'll be no 366 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,519 activity and then all of a sudden, everybody will be 367 00:19:38,599 --> 00:19:42,119 rushing around in a panic. So I would love to 368 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,359 see it come out next Christmas. A Dog's Purpose sold out. 369 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,799 We just we depleted the supplies everywhere in bookstores all 370 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:54,839 over the country by Christmas because it's a book that 371 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,319 people like to give to other people. And now the 372 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:01,920 stores are being replenished. It's a slow process. I mean 373 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,720 that Barnes and Noble down the street from me still 374 00:20:03,759 --> 00:20:06,240 doesn't have my book on the shelf, but they've got 375 00:20:06,279 --> 00:20:08,599 it on back order. But the books are showing back 376 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,880 up and so obviously there's a Christmas feel to it 377 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880 that I think would work really well for people to 378 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,759 go to a movie on Christmas Day if that's what 379 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:21,759 they do, or around Christmas time and see a Dog's Purpose, 380 00:20:21,799 --> 00:20:22,200 that would be. 381 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: My goal absolutely, you know, I think it would be 382 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,680 a great fit and excited for you for the project, 383 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,839 So congratulations on that. I will be looking forward to 384 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:29,599 seeing that. 385 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 386 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,559 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a movie for everybody. 387 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 9: You know. 388 00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:36,759 Speaker 11: A Dog's Purpose is actually being sold all the way 389 00:20:36,799 --> 00:20:40,319 down to the Schoolastic Book fair level. The Schoolastic Books, 390 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,200 on a separate contract with my publisher, picked up the 391 00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:46,240 rights to sell it to schools. It's a book that 392 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,119 you know, it doesn't have It doesn't have anything inappropriate 393 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,240 for children to read. Let's put it that way. And 394 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,279 because it's written from a dog's perspective, though I do 395 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:59,319 use I do have to use words that describe things. 396 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,920 If the dog is hungry, he may not know what 397 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,039 the word hungry means, but I have to use the 398 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:05,920 word hungry so that the reader knows what it means, right, right, 399 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:09,519 But nonetheless, I deliberately made it a simple vocabulary read 400 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:12,839 it than try to be complex with it, because I 401 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,359 want people to experience what it would. 402 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: Be like to be a dog. 403 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:17,599 Speaker 11: And that's the goal. 404 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,839 Speaker 2: That's right, and I think it's perfect how you wrote 405 00:21:19,839 --> 00:21:22,079 the book. Because when I do my writing and wrote 406 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,160 my book, I try to make it where it hits 407 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,519 a broad audience, you know, where everybody can understand. And 408 00:21:27,039 --> 00:21:29,359 being a sales marketing guy, I don't necessarily worry about 409 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,920 the approach of well, the broader I can make the language, 410 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,519 the more books I can sell to different audiences. But 411 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,759 what I'm really looking for is just to touch, to 412 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,160 touch everybody from the youth all the way up. 413 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 414 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,799 Speaker 11: Yeah, And I'm really proud of A Dog's Purpose. It 415 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,799 is doing really well. It's got the highest ranking on 416 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,279 Amazon of any book currently on the New York Times 417 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,920 bestseller list, so it has really resonated with with readers. 418 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,119 And I would tell I would tell your listeners if 419 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,559 they like talking about dogs and seeing dog pictures and 420 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,319 pictures and puppy videos. We've got a fan page on 421 00:22:03,519 --> 00:22:07,519 Facebook and it's going great. Drop in and join the conversation. 422 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,119 Just look for A Dog's Purpose on Facebook if you're into. 423 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,319 Speaker 2: Facebook, absolutely, and who isn't everybody's in the past book, right, 424 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,559 So that's good, So join the fan cliff for A 425 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,839 Dog's Purpose on that. I'm going back to talk to 426 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,400 you about the writing the screenplay for the movie. And 427 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:27,160 you know, we often hear people say, you know that 428 00:22:27,319 --> 00:22:31,480 most books are much better than the movie equivalent. And 429 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,519 unless the movie keeps with the book's intent and close 430 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,319 and stays close to the book's purpose when writing the 431 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,160 screenplay compared to writing the actual book, how difficult is 432 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,240 it to stay true to the stories and the message 433 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:47,680 that's in the book when converting over to a movie. 434 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 11: Well, the good news is that by hiring the author, 435 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,519 DreamWorks did a really great job of making sure that 436 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,000 it stays true to the book. Because obviously I'm not 437 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,039 going to throw the book away and start over. That'd 438 00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:02,039 be too much work. And also they said, we want 439 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,519 to make we want to make a movie of this book. 440 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,799 We don't want to just take the title and make 441 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:11,319 our own movie. It is difficult from the standpoint that 442 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,480 A Dog's Purpose has a lot of story in it. 443 00:23:14,599 --> 00:23:16,440 There's a lot of things that happen, there's a lot 444 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,279 of characters that come in and out of this dog's life. 445 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,000 And I can't make this a twenty two hour movie. 446 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:28,319 So the challenge for my writing partner and me is 447 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,480 to stay focused on what are the elements in the 448 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:35,359 book that would tie together in a narrative so that 449 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,960 people will really enjoy the movie experience of A Dog's Purpose. 450 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,960 And sometimes it's just simply choosing one thing over the other. 451 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,039 Speaker 3: You know. 452 00:23:44,599 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 11: I could have gone one way and we could have 453 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,680 written a different scene, but we decided to stick with 454 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,519 the outline that we came up with, and it has 455 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:55,200 worked out great. I mean, I'm really pleased with it. 456 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,039 I think everybody listening you're invited to see this movie 457 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,319 when it comes out, because you're going to really enjoy it. 458 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,519 Speaker 2: Fantastic. I'll be looking for my red carpet invitation through 459 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:07,960 the mail Arria Grosse when we get that. That's also 460 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,880 about any of the projects you got going on, whether 461 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,240 it's books or movies. I know you can keep very 462 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,519 very active to our listeners a little bit about what 463 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,079 else is going on, how they can find out more 464 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,880 about you and your projects. 465 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 11: Well, thank you, thank you. A Dog's Purpose will be 466 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,000 out in a trade paperback edition in the spring, I 467 00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:27,799 think around May. That's going to be fun. And then 468 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,319 in September, I've got a new novel called Emery's Gift 469 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,759 that will be out, and I'm really excited about that 470 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,319 project as well. That's great. I just turned in the 471 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,680 final draft, so look for that at September, and then 472 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,119 I'm going to be writing a sequel to A Dog's 473 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,599 Purpose and the movie is going to be coming out. 474 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,319 And then I also am a syndicated columnist. Some of 475 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,279 your listeners may live in areas where they get my 476 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,400 column in their newspaper, and if they don't, I don't 477 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,359 understand they should carry me anyway. That's so that's what's 478 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,519 going on with me. I've got a lot of things 479 00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:08,599 are very blessed right now, and it's all really I mean, 480 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,759 the writer's purpose on this whole thing was just always 481 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:14,400 to write a novel that really resonated with people, and 482 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,400 I'm really glad that A Dog's Purpose seems to fit. 483 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:20,839 Speaker 2: That bill absolutely absolutely. Now I notice by going to 484 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,079 your website, Bruce Cameron dot com, you also have a 485 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,440 section in there called Dog of the Week. How do 486 00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:27,039 people see? 487 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, that's it do Yeah, that's at a Dogspurpose dot com, 488 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,559 and that is people can upload pictures of their dogs 489 00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:36,440 and nominate them for Dog of the Week, and then 490 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,839 you accumulate votes over ninety days. The dog that comes 491 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,000 in first place, the owner gets to get a free 492 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:47,319 copy of A Dog's Purpose. Hey, so I've been doing 493 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,480 this contest all the way started all the way back gosh, 494 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,759 in like May or June, and it has just been 495 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,519 really fun. We've had some great dogs win is Dog 496 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:02,720 of the week. And you can also view my book 497 00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:08,359 trailer on there, and unfortunately I'm in that And yeah, 498 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,680 it's a fun place to hang out. There's always a 499 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,839 dog story on the on the homepage about the dog 500 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,119 of the week. It's all really really really fun. That's 501 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,599 at a Dog's Purpose dot com. 502 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody check that out, go to a dogspurpose 503 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,440 dot com and submit your dog. You may be a 504 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:24,640 Dog of the week. You just never know, that's right. 505 00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 506 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: Hey, going back to the book briefly, I understand one 507 00:26:27,759 --> 00:26:30,119 of the motivations for writing the book was based on 508 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,160 the dog rescue work that your daughter does. Can tell 509 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,519 us a little bit about that and what some of 510 00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:38,319 the key points are that that you tended to bring 511 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,480 about in that aspect for you? 512 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,839 Speaker 11: Yeah, thank you. You know, I really didn't all my life. 513 00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:45,680 I've just sort of gone to a breeder and bought 514 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,640 a dog. I thought that's the only way you can 515 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,680 get a good dog. My daughter, though, became heavily involved 516 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,240 in animal rescue in Denver and started her own charity. 517 00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:59,960 Now Life is Better is the name of the charity. 518 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,240 She just started it this month. She's been working for 519 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,960 the past She co founded an organization called Mikino's and 520 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,640 for the past ten years has been rescuing the animals. 521 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,440 And so I've really come to learn a lot about 522 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,880 dogs that need to be rescued, and fostering dogs and 523 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,759 adopting out dogs and all the issues around that. And 524 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,200 you know, this is this is something, this is a problem. 525 00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:27,160 We could solve the problem of homeless and abuse pets. 526 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,519 We could solve that problem because it really is just 527 00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:34,440 a question of whether or not one's animals are spade 528 00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:39,119 or neutered. If if everybody accept responsible breeders got their 529 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,200 dogs spade or neutered within within a very short period 530 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,759 of time, we'd see this problem of these these abandoned 531 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:53,200 dogs just drastically declined. My own dog was little Tucker, 532 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,119 was one of a cardboard box fall of puppies that 533 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,559 were brand new puppies, just born, left at the shelter 534 00:28:01,079 --> 00:28:06,680 in a box, and just fortunately my daughter's shelter happened 535 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,519 to have a German shepherd who had just weaned off 536 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,279 her pupps the day before, and they brought the box 537 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,960 of newborn puppies into the German shepherd, and the German 538 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480 shepherd gave them a look like you've got to be kidding, 539 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,119 and they shoved the dogs at her, and the German 540 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,319 shepherd lay back down, and it was miraculous. It was 541 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,119 also interesting that the German shepherd had a leg injury 542 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,599 and really shouldn't have been running around anyway, so the 543 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,319 puppies kind of kept the mommy right there. The whole 544 00:28:39,359 --> 00:28:41,519 thing was just such a moving story. And then out 545 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,960 of that I got this this dog, Tucker. We have 546 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:47,200 no idea what he is. I thought he was a 547 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,079 golden but he's too little. He's just not growing any 548 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,960 That's okay. I keep pulling on his feet, saying you 549 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,920 can do it, you can do it, Tucker. But I 550 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920 don't think he's going to get any bigger. But that's 551 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,000 just the kind of miraculous work that all these people do. 552 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,359 And in the process of doing our work with charities, 553 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960 when the book first came out, we've supported more than 554 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,880 one hundred animal charities across the country and We're doing 555 00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:18,880 an event with a lab rescue up in Montecito, California tomorrow. 556 00:29:19,359 --> 00:29:22,680 So I have really gotten interested and involved to the 557 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,039 extent that I can with animal rescue and the dogs. 558 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,319 In a Dog's Purpose, it's very clear that dogs can 559 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,279 have a great life story, but they can also start 560 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,119 out without a great life story. And it's all got 561 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,160 to do with how we treat them. It's not their choice, 562 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,240 it's what we have arranged for their lives. They see 563 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,480 themselves as being hope, being animals who are basically dedicated 564 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:54,400 to us and are told what to do by us, 565 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,200 and their lives take the direction that we steer them in. 566 00:29:58,119 --> 00:30:01,240 So in the Dog's Purpose, I touched on a lot 567 00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:03,799 of issues that are really important to animal rescue people 568 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:08,160 about you know, the dog always gets newter. The dog 569 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:12,599 lives a good life or a bad life depending upon 570 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,599 how the people treat them. 571 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely more learning lessons from our animals. And big 572 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,920 kudos to you and your daughter. Do you have your 573 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,039 daughter's website for her life is Better? 574 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,599 Speaker 11: She has not yet put a website up. It's that 575 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,400 new of a charity. 576 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,279 Speaker 2: Okay, well put in your little tickler note. Have her 577 00:30:28,319 --> 00:30:30,720 dropped me? A note when she gets that up and running, 578 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,920 and we'll give a plug on that as well, because 579 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,519 we're all about yeah, we're all about helping out and rescuing. 580 00:30:35,599 --> 00:30:38,400 I'm for her president of a local humane society and 581 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,119 rescue shelter. And my two boys, Buzz and what are 582 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,400 my schnauzers, are not only love my life, but the 583 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,960 greatest teachers I've ever had. And they were from a 584 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:48,200 rescue situation as well. 585 00:30:48,319 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 11: So wonderful. 586 00:30:50,119 --> 00:30:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we applaud you, you and your daughter for 587 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,039 the great work. We appreciate that for the dog, all 588 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:58,640 for the dogs, all for the dogs. That's absolutely right. Well, Bruce, hey, 589 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,559 it's always a pleasure. Time for lies by so quickly, 590 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,759 but we're gonna be back in touch. Obviously. You got 591 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:05,880 some projects. They're gonna be right up our alley, and 592 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,119 I'll be looking for that golden red carpet invite to 593 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,319 come out for the movie premiere when it comes. Okay, 594 00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,000 so'll be looking for that. So everybody, Bruce Cameron, once again, 595 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:18,759 go out and buy the book if you can buy 596 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:20,680 it quickly, because it's gonna fly off the shelfs again. 597 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,960 The second print is gonna fly off. So the book's 598 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 called A Dog's Purpose, a novel for humans. 599 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:25,799 Speaker 3: I love it. 600 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 2: Bruce Cameron, thanks for joining Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. 601 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Thanks for having me our pleasure. What everybody. We're gonna 602 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,079 wrap up for today. We're coming to the end of 603 00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,119 the show, so I'd like to thank everybody for listening 604 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,920 to Animal Rights on pet Life Radio. 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