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<v Speaker 1>Disclaimer.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd like to know before the start of this interview

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<v Speaker 2>that the opinions about to be expressed by the guest

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<v Speaker 2>of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of the

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<v Speaker 2>guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the views

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<v Speaker 2>of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello, all you fire buffs boss, Welcome back, Get

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<v Speaker 4>Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Stories. Come to the right place you want history? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>come to the right place you want to rescue? Too

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<v Speaker 5>hard charges Roofie again. I tell you you come to

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<v Speaker 5>the place you have. You're not gonna get this anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna get this on the kitchen table, the

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<v Speaker 5>fire out, even though we like him, we love that guy,

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<v Speaker 5>but you're not gonna get it there. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get it as other podcast. But only here do we

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<v Speaker 5>get the true present day legends of the job and

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<v Speaker 5>the history and maybe an author of too.

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<v Speaker 6>Like half the show already know.

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<v Speaker 5>We got plenty more, bro, plenty of story, plenty history.

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<v Speaker 5>So they got your notebooks in a pre show we

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<v Speaker 5>should have been taking out that was that's a show.

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<v Speaker 6>Itself, I said it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Fell different grown though. I'm sorry I'm disappointing him. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, if you want to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at this thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, you're gonna show me that I had that on

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<v Speaker 5>my I take that on my deathbed.

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<v Speaker 7>Bro.

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<v Speaker 5>That head of hair for crime white.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost as white as my light. That's back here.

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<v Speaker 5>So we won't have a show. And I think Chris

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<v Speaker 5>Ruffi and I will be out in Indianapolis Buffalpalooza. Come

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<v Speaker 5>out and see us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll be there too if you if you care,

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<v Speaker 1>you come, uh huh yeah, and I'm coming to Indianapolis.

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<v Speaker 8>You are.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you buying? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it my turn? I don't know me maybe?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Hooked us up lunch today. Oh yesterday we had me

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<v Speaker 1>and my boys.

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<v Speaker 5>You get to the end and when the bill comes

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<v Speaker 5>and all of a sudden, you don't see guys, he's

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<v Speaker 5>in the bedroom somewhere.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I just picked it up. We picked

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<v Speaker 6>up something breakfast or something I did breakfast when we

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<v Speaker 6>first met.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's right. When Pete wouldn't go into his pocket.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he would just sit there look at you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Remember that, Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I was playing to marshals because we got a lot

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<v Speaker 5>to get to.

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<v Speaker 7>Time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to Vince. We'll start off right here.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen.

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<v Speaker 5>Vince will be out in Indianapolis too. He will be

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<v Speaker 5>at booth one nine seven. And if you go to

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<v Speaker 5>up to Vince will find because he's a really short

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<v Speaker 5>other one quick. We got to get our guests in

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<v Speaker 5>hy Yes, let's get we go.

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<v Speaker 2>The First Responder Center for Excellence is a not for

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<v Speaker 1>Of first responders.

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<v Speaker 2>Their education and research initiatives aim to bring greater awareness

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<v Speaker 2>and understanding the challenges to the health, safety, and well

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<v Speaker 2>being of firefighters, EMS personnel, and other first responders too.

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<v Speaker 2>They are an affiliate of the National Fallen Firefighter Foundation.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, tonight's old school health and safety too, Because

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<v Speaker 5>I've said this one before, but it stands repeating.

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<v Speaker 1>It's repeating.

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<v Speaker 5>The jobs all over the country offer services for mental health.

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<v Speaker 5>But always think about your wife and kids too, because

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<v Speaker 5>you bring a lot of that stuff home and you

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<v Speaker 5>may not think, but the kids are like sponges and

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<v Speaker 5>they pick up everything. So they also off for services

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<v Speaker 5>to the whole family. So keep an eye with your

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<v Speaker 5>kids and uh, you know, like we say all the time,

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<v Speaker 5>it's it's not frowned upon that and go get yourself

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<v Speaker 5>looked at, so you know, include your kids and your wife. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>like crap, bring home right right.

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<v Speaker 9>I would tell you I attended best uh Bill Gustin's

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<v Speaker 9>funeral on Tuesday, and I can't tell you that they

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<v Speaker 9>are stressing the importance of it on both sides, more

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<v Speaker 9>so obviously for uh for individuals struggling, But they make

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<v Speaker 9>it a part of the funeral service now where it

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<v Speaker 9>didn't really come up. You know, I was very surprised

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<v Speaker 9>to see that. Even the chief of the fight department

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<v Speaker 9>down there made oh he was he was talking about

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<v Speaker 9>it and help and said it came up several times

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<v Speaker 9>during the service.

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<v Speaker 1>So the culture is changing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, hi, rough bringing our scheme, guests, we got what.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to do first?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>The author? We'll do the author first.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure it awes. Just make sure you say it right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know somebody was saying it.

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<v Speaker 6>Usday in coming to the stage, Usden whoa Okay, next

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<v Speaker 6>up coming to the stage, Jimmy Sandys last last, but

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<v Speaker 6>not least, Lieutenant Mike Penna.

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<v Speaker 5>We gave him the let's do this before we get go.

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<v Speaker 5>We gotta get patriotic, you know the deal. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 5>greatest country in the whole face of the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Just check your mic there, coops, you might be a

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<v Speaker 6>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>First, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

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<v Speaker 3>States of America and to the Republic, for which it stands,

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<v Speaker 3>one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent, excellent sound.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, gentlemen. Welcome to the show. Jimmy, I knew

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<v Speaker 5>we get you somehow or another. I knew we'd somehow wrangle.

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<v Speaker 6>You, n bro.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe it air over this.

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<v Speaker 6>Show, but nothing, but in the pre show we couldn't.

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<v Speaker 6>We were gonna have to get the hook on him.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 5>He was he was wrong, right, I don't know why

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<v Speaker 5>we can't get him on just say hey, come on

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<v Speaker 5>and tell you stories.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, It's like he's like.

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<v Speaker 5>Today, it's Jimmy Sanders. Tomorrow it's Jay Fishler. Who knows

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<v Speaker 5>so one wrote this cool book because as you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we just recently had the hundred the centennial for Rescue too.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was a good turnout, right.

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<v Speaker 8>Man, Yes, absolutely, very good turnout.

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<v Speaker 10>A couple of hundred people there, guys, like three four

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<v Speaker 10>hundred of them.

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<v Speaker 5>What did the whole day consist of?

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<v Speaker 8>What?

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<v Speaker 5>What was the ceremony like?

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<v Speaker 8>The ceremony consisted of you know, Chief Department and very

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<v Speaker 8>as well as Captain Flowerty speaking on behalf of the

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<v Speaker 8>company in regards of the past hundred years, what the

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<v Speaker 8>company is, how it was formed, how was organized, and

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<v Speaker 8>what progressed during the course of the those one hundred years.

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<v Speaker 8>And and then afterwards everybody just got together and had

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<v Speaker 8>to get together at a location. It was a great day,

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<v Speaker 8>great time. Yeah, great to see old timers that were there.

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<v Speaker 5>And who was who was the oldest living Rescue two

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<v Speaker 5>member do.

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<v Speaker 8>We have at at the party? I believe it might

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<v Speaker 8>have been in Jack Dylan or Dylan maybe yeah, Tom Dylan.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it's a toss up, right, like yes, well.

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<v Speaker 6>When I see yeah, right, Oh, is he he's got

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<v Speaker 6>to be eighties, right, yes?

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<v Speaker 7>Mc roy was eighty nine or is it?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Paula McFadden was there. He's in his mid eighties.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, Tom, what do you call John Dooley. I

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<v Speaker 8>think he's ninety two, but because of his health he

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<v Speaker 8>couldn't come. But he does attend breakfast now and then

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<v Speaker 8>we meet once a month.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was what what what decade was he there?

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<v Speaker 7>In his sixties?

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<v Speaker 8>Seventies?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 6>So do you guys listen to you guys are listen to.

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<v Speaker 7>Listen to those stories, and there's plenty of them.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, right, And then you want to tell a story

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<v Speaker 8>like rather go than Men's Bad? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, guys in the eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 6>Huh from the rescue.

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<v Speaker 5>Who is the oldest captain that still comes.

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<v Speaker 8>Gallica?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Gallagh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's only four, you know Gallagher then and Chief

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<v Speaker 8>Fishler and Captain Flowery. Those are the only living ones.

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<v Speaker 5>Another guy. I'm hot after him. I get him someday.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get him. Talk to my agent all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the funniest thing ever. He can't stop telling stories though,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the best part. He can't stop.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why you don't do I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>That's all in for lunch. You'll just and sit him

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I should though, right, I'll put a camera

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<v Speaker 5>in then just let I'll put the camera in my booth. Actually, God,

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<v Speaker 5>so you'll have a camera in Indy. So when he

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<v Speaker 6>There, don't even don't even don't even let him know.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, let him know, be like, hey, you know what's this?

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn'tcognize it because we'll see the GoPro or something

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<v Speaker 5>I was so cool.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Cools, you want to We'll just have the guys

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<v Speaker 6>just go quick through the timeline, just real fast, like

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<v Speaker 6>where they you know, when they got on, where they

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<v Speaker 6>were who.

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<v Speaker 5>Was there first, Jimmy Sanders or Lieutenant Penna, No.

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<v Speaker 7>Like s we have the old timer.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Ultimate, let's talk. Even though we've had you

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<v Speaker 5>on the show, I'll listen to it every time over

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<v Speaker 5>and over. Give us a little brief description when you

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<v Speaker 5>got out of the job, where you worked, how you

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<v Speaker 5>got the rescue too, how you had to hitch the ring,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure got on the job in nineteen eighty one July.

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<v Speaker 7>First assignment was to lat A twenty Lower Manhattan and Hells.

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<v Speaker 7>Andre Dacos spend some time there, and then I was

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<v Speaker 7>in the old Tin House. And it was a great

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<v Speaker 7>time there. A great bunch of guys learned a lot

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<v Speaker 7>all day when you went there. Yes, he was, he

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<v Speaker 7>was a signed there and the engine actually they worked together,

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<v Speaker 7>and uh he followed me over to Rescue after that

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<v Speaker 7>and went to Rescue two in nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you in the Tin House when they closed up

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<v Speaker 5>the doors on Super Bowl Sunday?

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<v Speaker 7>And No, I was actually in Rescue two at the time.

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<v Speaker 7>I had left all that. Yeah, it's probably about two

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<v Speaker 7>years prior. And so you were able to go.

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<v Speaker 5>God over at Calton Avenue.

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<v Speaker 7>Actually, how did that go?

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<v Speaker 5>You called over there first?

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<v Speaker 7>You asked him or I actually, you know, find out

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<v Speaker 7>he was working and called him up. When your mindset

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<v Speaker 7>if I come over and talk to you, he goes, Nope,

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<v Speaker 7>come on over, and he went over in a day tour.

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<v Speaker 7>And that firehouse, I don't know if anybody's been in

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<v Speaker 7>it recently, but it's really tight. You talked about one

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<v Speaker 7>twelve and you know seventy one, the same thing front

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<v Speaker 7>and rear, a small little kitchen in the back. It

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<v Speaker 7>was an old old firehouse, you know, getting up to

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<v Speaker 7>the old office upstairs.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>You know again old timidation, like everyal goes through the

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<v Speaker 7>asking to come to a rescue company. You know, I

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<v Speaker 7>only had about four years on a job and thinking

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<v Speaker 7>we'll take about two or three years to get there.

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<v Speaker 7>But luckily and unluckily, you know, one guy got hurt

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<v Speaker 7>and they didn't expect him back and I was able

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<v Speaker 7>to get a call from Downy come over. And it

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't have to really move anything from Colton Air

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<v Speaker 7>Near to Bergen Street. It was already there. But we

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<v Speaker 7>had a lot of work to do in the firehouse

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<v Speaker 7>because when they left it it was really really crappy inside.

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<v Speaker 7>What was there before the Uh it was a fire

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<v Speaker 7>patrol Savage thirty four originally original quarters right then a

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<v Speaker 7>Savage unit and then we took it over from them.

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<v Speaker 5>You should have told the guys, hey, listen, while you're

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<v Speaker 5>moving the stuff forward, could you grab my stuff over

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<v Speaker 5>at one seventy six and bring it out.

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<v Speaker 7>Well right, yeah, well I had I had to look

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<v Speaker 7>for my gear also, so it wouldn't it wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 7>wouldn't have been able to find it either.

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<v Speaker 5>The brothers found out that.

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<v Speaker 7>Once they found out, you know that that my helmet

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<v Speaker 7>was shiny and anything else, you gotta love it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>no matter why you hit it or lock locked it up,

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<v Speaker 7>they found it, so they Yeah, everybody goes through it.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was I was assigned to tent? No, I can't

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<v Speaker 5>remember his name. Who was the guy the Italian guy

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<v Speaker 5>who was a good cook over there?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yes, a.

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<v Speaker 7>Short, little chubby guy and yeah, man, yeah he was

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<v Speaker 7>for years? What was in the engine and it was

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<v Speaker 7>an engine show for for a long time.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I want to say, like Dino, well, oh ship,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't. Yeah, we're gonna come to us, right, thinking

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<v Speaker 5>guys came from to t that went the ask you right,

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<v Speaker 5>A lot.

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<v Speaker 7>Of guys, A lot of guys you know, went seventy six.

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<v Speaker 7>Also we had about I think twelve we counted on.

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<v Speaker 6>All three as well. Yeah. Jimmy Gerzbeck, Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 5>Back came from to ten first and that he went

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<v Speaker 5>to ten.

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<v Speaker 7>Romeo came from two.

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<v Speaker 6>Ten Larry o'donald. Larry o'donnald was in two ten, and

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<v Speaker 6>Jimmy Schwick I believe was in two ten. They all

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<v Speaker 6>went to one.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah right, I just remember the office upstairs, were like, wow,

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<v Speaker 5>I got there after you guys left. So but it

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<v Speaker 5>was cool. You still see the remnants of Rescue two

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<v Speaker 5>up there. The bulldog the office is awesome.

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<v Speaker 7>So ten years in Rescue two, uh until I got

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<v Speaker 7>promoted in nineteen ninety five, and then you know, bounced

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<v Speaker 7>around and uh before I got the spot and Rescue

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<v Speaker 7>one in Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 5>How long did you work in one?

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<v Speaker 7>Probably about five years by six years now comparatively.

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<v Speaker 5>What the main difference between one and two other than

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<v Speaker 5>the odd buildings and stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>Like that, the operations, Uh, Brooklyn was more on the fireside,

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<v Speaker 7>you know some emergencies. It was more emergencies in Manhattan

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<v Speaker 7>than it was on the fireside. But when you got

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<v Speaker 7>to fire in Manhattan, it was, you know, one.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't want to go different.

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<v Speaker 7>On the top floor, like you can go for a

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<v Speaker 7>oor of smoke and spent two days walking around the building.

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<v Speaker 7>That's hard.

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<v Speaker 5>That's his story because you sent me a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>stuff when I was doing the rescue this documentary, How

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<v Speaker 5>did you come such a history of the rescue?

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<v Speaker 7>Just reading and you know and rescue too, going to

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<v Speaker 7>the reunions and things like that, talking to the old

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<v Speaker 7>timers and you know, asking them questions what it was

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<v Speaker 7>like back then, and what odd jobs they went to

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<v Speaker 7>and things like that. So I piqued my interest with that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, reading the old Department orders, the old Metal

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<v Speaker 7>day books, and you started, you know, remembering a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of things and asking people more questions, and you just

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<v Speaker 7>kept on rolling right and us.

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<v Speaker 5>It becomes a passion, like an addiction, like I'm always

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<v Speaker 5>looking at the old was it the Brooklyn Eagle, looking

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<v Speaker 5>at the Brookly newspapers? New York Times. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it becomes such an obsession looking back. And we had

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<v Speaker 5>a Hairshagen to do Hashagen's corner on the show every

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<v Speaker 5>now and again. It's just it's an amazing pass that

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of guys don't realize took place on this job.

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<v Speaker 7>If you ask them today, you know absolutely. And it's

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<v Speaker 7>basically the history of the company too. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 7>you're proud of being in the company and you want

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<v Speaker 7>to learn the history, and you know, the guys that

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<v Speaker 7>came before you.

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<v Speaker 5>Any any like at any given day. Well, I'll say this,

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<v Speaker 5>on your busiest day, how many jobs would you go

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<v Speaker 5>to arrested two.

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<v Speaker 7>Busiest day? You know, if you do it twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, maybe five six, seven, eight jobs in the

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<v Speaker 7>daytour and probably about the same amount ten jobs and

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<v Speaker 7>at night you know, and you know, not come back

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<v Speaker 7>for twenty four hours, go from job to job. We

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<v Speaker 7>never took time, We never changed. We just you know,

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<v Speaker 7>stayed wet and dirty the whole twenty four hours and

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<v Speaker 7>went from job to job. We used to have ten

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<v Speaker 7>eight parties and just go ten eight for twenty four hours. Bring,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, pack a lunch, leave on the rig and

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<v Speaker 7>just right around Brooklyn and a couple of times where

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<v Speaker 7>we would get there first due in Flatbush or somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh the matter building, man, they must have loved that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we brought to the chief. Chief you don't need

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<v Speaker 7>this anymore, he goes, Oh, no, we don't need you.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys get good. You know, I think we got

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<v Speaker 7>earunder control now, not realizing that we gave you ten

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<v Speaker 7>seventy five.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Brooklyn the rest too, Where are you? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 6>takeing uh, Warren, Right, I mean it didn't matter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>make a left by the McDonald's over there and go

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<v Speaker 6>down two blocks and get the hell out of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Was not helped.

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<v Speaker 7>Happened a lot, Warren. All the distatues in the Brooklyn

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<v Speaker 7>cl were they knew where we were quite a time,

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<v Speaker 7>and they knew if something else came in. We got

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<v Speaker 7>directed many times to you know, a job that you know,

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<v Speaker 7>a multiple fatalities and things like that where we were

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<v Speaker 7>right there.

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<v Speaker 5>But he wasn't abuff there? Where was he aboff?

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<v Speaker 7>Later on?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? Later on?

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<v Speaker 7>What he says, you know what you're saying now, it's uh,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, saddle up.

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<v Speaker 5>Saddle up looks like.

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<v Speaker 7>Up in the old days used to be pull up

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<v Speaker 7>your boots over the voice along. Yeah, that's how he started.

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<v Speaker 7>And then with the bunker gear, he couldn't pull up

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<v Speaker 7>you boots.

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<v Speaker 6>And I gotta call him. I haven't caught him in

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<v Speaker 6>a while. He used to call me regularly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we gotta have a bottle of the dispact to

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<v Speaker 5>have him and the beef man on it.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's get Jimmy in.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah there, all right, Jimmy gives you a history. When

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<v Speaker 5>did you get on the job. Actually, what made you

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<v Speaker 5>want to be a five? And then he was, we

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<v Speaker 5>haven't got your whole history.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I was a volunteer first. Yeah, we write that.

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<v Speaker 6>Down four Team Carricter two.

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<v Speaker 8>Joined them volunteer Fire Department back in nineteen seventy four

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<v Speaker 8>when there was I guess there was nineteen. The person

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<v Speaker 8>who talked me into joining the volunteer Fire Department in

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<v Speaker 8>Hempstead was Brian Faye.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I hear, really yeah, So it.

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<v Speaker 8>Kept us out of jail in Juvenile Hall. And back then,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it was a pretty busy place to go

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<v Speaker 8>to flyers. It still is Hempstead, it still is, but

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<v Speaker 8>not like it was back in the seventies and eighties.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, the busiest apartment's probably back then was besides

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<v Speaker 8>Hempstead was Freeport and Long People. Really, yeah, it was unbelievable.

431
00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:46.279
<v Speaker 8>And then we took the test together. I forget when

432
00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:49.640
<v Speaker 8>it was eighty one or eighty two, and we both

433
00:21:49.720 --> 00:21:52.920
<v Speaker 8>wrote in the top two thousand, but it went by

434
00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:57.440
<v Speaker 8>your last four of your social security number, and Brian

435
00:21:57.519 --> 00:21:59.640
<v Speaker 8>had a lower social security number than I did. So

436
00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:01.880
<v Speaker 8>you got on the job six months before I did.

437
00:22:01.880 --> 00:22:02.920
<v Speaker 6>Know you were a junior man.

438
00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:09.240
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, this was a man like always and when I

439
00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:12.000
<v Speaker 8>got on a job, unfortunately, no one in our class

440
00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.000
<v Speaker 8>we were the first class to go to one hundred

441
00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:18.519
<v Speaker 8>and fifty guys because of a lawsuit that was still

442
00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:24.359
<v Speaker 8>in effect on me. So our class was the first class.

443
00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:26.839
<v Speaker 8>In nineteen eighty seven we went up to one hundred

444
00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:28.880
<v Speaker 8>and fifty guys. Before that, I think it was like

445
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.799
<v Speaker 8>fifty or seventy five guys in a class, and our class,

446
00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:35.920
<v Speaker 8>no one went to a busy company. Went to slow

447
00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:41.839
<v Speaker 8>companies in Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan as well as the Bronx.

448
00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:45.920
<v Speaker 8>So unfortunately I didn't know anybody. I had no family

449
00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.559
<v Speaker 8>on a job, so I went to twelve in Williamsburg.

450
00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh Man, Yeah, I think is that right?

451
00:22:54.119 --> 00:22:59.920
<v Speaker 8>Firehouse? And that's where I went. But what was weird

452
00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:04.839
<v Speaker 8>was the last twenty guys in our class never went

453
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.759
<v Speaker 8>to the firehouse. From probe school, you went to fire

454
00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:13.039
<v Speaker 8>prevention for ninety days and you did oil burner inspections.

455
00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, so where did they stick us?

456
00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:24.319
<v Speaker 8>They stuck us in Crown Heights, Bedsty and Hawk Slope,

457
00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:27.799
<v Speaker 8>So you used to walk and have to inspect the

458
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:31.759
<v Speaker 8>oil burners for the day. Yeah, and then from there

459
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 8>you went to the firehouse after ninety day detail. And

460
00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.359
<v Speaker 8>then I wasn't even in the firehouse. I don't even

461
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.960
<v Speaker 8>think two weeks. And I was detailed from there from

462
00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:45.880
<v Speaker 8>two twelve to one to do my rotation in the truck.

463
00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:49.799
<v Speaker 8>I never got to one to twelve until like almost

464
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:55.039
<v Speaker 8>September October, and then I spent the year there and

465
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.720
<v Speaker 8>I had it. Yeah, I told the camp I got

466
00:23:57.759 --> 00:23:58.279
<v Speaker 8>it was.

467
00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Wasn't that Captain Years or something like that.

468
00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:05.599
<v Speaker 8>Macarno, Yeah, Tony Macarno. And I told him, I go,

469
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:14.519
<v Speaker 8>I got to get out of here or else. Let's

470
00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:17.839
<v Speaker 8>see what we can do. He called the transfer desk

471
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 8>in Brooklyn, and uh, things are different back then. Transfers

472
00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 8>are almost once a month, and they promoted you, well,

473
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.480
<v Speaker 8>you got transferred by your grade. And back then it

474
00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:34.200
<v Speaker 8>was only three grades of five. It was third grade,

475
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:38.440
<v Speaker 8>first second grade, and first grade fireman. So when I called,

476
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.599
<v Speaker 8>I was from being the third grade to a second

477
00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:44.160
<v Speaker 8>grade fireman. And the guy at the transfer desk is

478
00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:46.480
<v Speaker 8>Laught and he goes, you know, I'm giving them companies

479
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.400
<v Speaker 8>in Brooklyn. He goes this, thirty guys ahead of you.

480
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.240
<v Speaker 8>I go, man, he goes, you got to help me out, man,

481
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:57.119
<v Speaker 8>I go, you gotta get me out of it. He

482
00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.559
<v Speaker 8>goes skinned. I go, yeah, I'm thick skinned. I whatever

483
00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.119
<v Speaker 8>you want, whatever question, I'll answer.

484
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:04.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't care what.

485
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 8>I'll get you in a firehouse next week. There's transfer

486
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:08.680
<v Speaker 8>coming out next week.

487
00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:09.279
<v Speaker 7>I'll get you there.

488
00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:11.200
<v Speaker 8>I like, all right, I go, where am I going?

489
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 8>He goes to seventy seven. I go, okay, And then

490
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:19.200
<v Speaker 8>within the guy was dead on his word. Within a week,

491
00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:20.960
<v Speaker 8>I was out of there.

492
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:21.559
<v Speaker 1>You know.

493
00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 8>I was on Nicko Boker revenue. I got there in

494
00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:28.400
<v Speaker 8>December to nineteen eighty eight, So I got there. My

495
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.599
<v Speaker 8>first tour was a night tour, and Mike worked in

496
00:25:31.680 --> 00:25:35.880
<v Speaker 8>one seventy six. It was busy my first night tour.

497
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:38.839
<v Speaker 8>I think we had three jobs before midnight.

498
00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

499
00:25:40.599 --> 00:25:41.319
<v Speaker 6>And then it just.

500
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:43.519
<v Speaker 8>Grew.

501
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

502
00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 8>It was so firehouse. I mean it was one of

503
00:25:47.640 --> 00:25:51.039
<v Speaker 8>the few firehouses that Yeah, it was a single day firehouse.

504
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.160
<v Speaker 8>And the engine in the truck were you know, back

505
00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:59.240
<v Speaker 8>to back. No, yeah, that's how it was. And uh,

506
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 8>turnouts were super fast. Whoever was in the front you

507
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 8>just got on the rig. Whoever was in the back,

508
00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 8>you stop the traffic and that was it.

509
00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:11.640
<v Speaker 6>Did you guys race to get back to the firehouse

510
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:12.759
<v Speaker 6>so you weren't in the front.

511
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so big you know you're going behind now yeah,

512
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:19.519
<v Speaker 1>well was you.

513
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 8>Gotta remember back then the engine would do rs.

514
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 6>Ah right, yeah, hell yeah it was the truck.

515
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:30.359
<v Speaker 8>Saturday night you do twenty RS boxes. So the truck

516
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 8>would race back to the firehouse because they wanted to

517
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 8>move that rig was we'd be in a front went

518
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 8>into all these RX boxes RS boxes. The truck gets

519
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.319
<v Speaker 8>one run and they go to a second along.

520
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:45.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

521
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 8>Because the area was so dense with engines, I mean

522
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:53.960
<v Speaker 8>you could walk to a lot of the engine companies.

523
00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.160
<v Speaker 8>You could walk to two fifty two to eighteen to

524
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 8>twenty two. I mean you rode your bicycle. You got

525
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 8>to two seventy one.

526
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 6>Whoa whoa bicycles Yeah, West carac too, let's all you

527
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 6>can't find it. I can't mentioned bicycles without that guy.

528
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 8>It was so dense with engines. But the trucks, I

529
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 8>mean you had one seventy six who moved from the

530
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 8>tinhouse to rock Away, and then you have one twenty

531
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.200
<v Speaker 8>four in one eleven and that was it. Yeah, I

532
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 8>mean one twelve was second. Dude, the two seventeen's quarters.

533
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 8>That's a whole yeah. No, But I stayed in the

534
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.799
<v Speaker 8>engine till nineteen ninety two, and then I went across

535
00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:39.279
<v Speaker 8>the floor.

536
00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:41.759
<v Speaker 5>Who were some of the guys that were there when

537
00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:42.319
<v Speaker 5>you got there.

538
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 8>It was funny because when I got there, I didn't

539
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 8>have a twenty four partner, So Stevie Morrell was in

540
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 8>the truck. He goes, you want to do twenty four?

541
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 8>So I go, yeah, I'm into it. He goes, let's

542
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 8>go and talk to the captains. And we sat down

543
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 8>with the captains and we told asked them if it's

544
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.559
<v Speaker 8>okay if we you do twenty four between the companies.

545
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 8>They go, as long as we got bodies, we don't care. Yeah.

546
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.039
<v Speaker 8>So half my tour being the engine and half the

547
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:19.079
<v Speaker 8>toy being the truck, and vice versa with Stevie.

548
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.400
<v Speaker 5>More was both companies when you got there.

549
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 8>So when I got there, there was a guy they

550
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 8>nicknamed him Topo Ggo because he was short surge this stuff.

551
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 8>I remember his last name. He was the engine he

552
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 8>was the truck captain and Tom Brennan was the engine captain.

553
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.000
<v Speaker 8>And then we both transferred out of the company on

554
00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 8>the on the same transfer.

555
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 5>Order Tom Brennan from one eleven.

556
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:55.920
<v Speaker 8>Tom Oh, no different, and uh, both captains transferred out

557
00:28:55.960 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 8>in the same order. And then the next captains that

558
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 8>came in was was Mike Leagan and Frank Ross and uh,

559
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 8>two tough guys.

560
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:08.759
<v Speaker 6>Man.

561
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, didn't cross the line. Because you crossed the line,

562
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 8>you got the right cross.

563
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 5>That one.

564
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:16.920
<v Speaker 6>That's a good one.

565
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 8>Andy Potter was there.

566
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:21.200
<v Speaker 6>He had the hair.

567
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 8>He had the hair and then he still had the hair.

568
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.720
<v Speaker 8>It was all black back then. He probably died of

569
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:31.119
<v Speaker 8>but it was all black. The engine we had three officers.

570
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:37.079
<v Speaker 8>They were all from one fifty five truck. Roger Olin, Uh, Tommy,

571
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:39.400
<v Speaker 8>Tommy Kokner.

572
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Dave Russell.

573
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:42.799
<v Speaker 8>Dave Russell was in the engine.

574
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:50.039
<v Speaker 1>That somebody was mentioned in Kevin Brown cooked us up with.

575
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 8>He was the captain of one twelve. And then Norman

576
00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 8>of course. Yeah, those are the three lieutenants.

577
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:00.720
<v Speaker 5>Norman, he was my captain in two tens. Norman, dorm

578
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:01.599
<v Speaker 5>and Norman of course.

579
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.079
<v Speaker 8>And then in the truck the lieutenants for Marty help

580
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 8>ke Larry McCarthy and then Chief killed off. Yeah, that's right,

581
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.359
<v Speaker 8>he's your best friend. You call him saying, all right,

582
00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:22.759
<v Speaker 8>I respect that little bit.

583
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.480
<v Speaker 7>Him this morning?

584
00:30:32.559 --> 00:30:35.160
<v Speaker 6>Do not call him Ed this morning?

585
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:35.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

586
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 6>Did you call him?

587
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Ed?

588
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 5>Noll him?

589
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 6>I know, let's get them. He said, I can call

590
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 6>him and I do not call him.

591
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:49.000
<v Speaker 5>You say that he's a gentleman, but I didn't say it.

592
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 6>I didn't say he's always the chief always.

593
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>But you see what they're doing over here, Glenn, he's

594
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>just patially waiting.

595
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.880
<v Speaker 6>I was saying, we're trying to we're trying to get

596
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 6>Sanders for everything he's got because we know he's not

597
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:10.039
<v Speaker 6>going to come on the show. So we'll be like

598
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 6>two hours. We are gonna we are gonna talk about

599
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.559
<v Speaker 6>rescue too at some point, but we're trying to get.

600
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Right now.

601
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 8>Just totally different atmosphere in that in that firehouse, I mean,

602
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 8>everybody there. All we want to do is go to fires. Yeah,

603
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 8>so you know, and then the truck. You know, we

604
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.920
<v Speaker 8>became known as no because we didn't want any of

605
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.839
<v Speaker 8>that stuff. You know, they sent the Hurst tool. What

606
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 8>do we need a Hurst tool for? So when the

607
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 8>guy from Fleet Maintenance came and delivered it, we told

608
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.319
<v Speaker 8>me he's got the wrong firehouse. You got to deliver

609
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 8>that thing to rock Foray Heavy.

610
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't want that thing here.

611
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 7>Is down, it's wait.

612
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 5>We make a turn.

613
00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 8>So that's what you know, that's what we did. Then

614
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 8>that's where the name. We didn't want any We just

615
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 8>wanted to go to fires, and that's what we did,

616
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 8>you know. And the engine was just as great man. Well,

617
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 8>I mean Camaradi was was really tight.

618
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 5>What year you go across the floor? How long you

619
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 5>spend across the floor anyway you're working mutuals over there?

620
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well you went between the rikes. I went there

621
00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 8>in ninety two, in one twelve, right, and I spent

622
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 8>four years there. And then the captain came was uh

623
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 8>Mark Faran. Wow, yeah, captain kid.

624
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 7>Man smart.

625
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.440
<v Speaker 8>And he was so smart and he was great, but

626
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.160
<v Speaker 8>he just kept going up a lot of so fast. Yeah,

627
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.000
<v Speaker 8>but taught us well listen to him.

628
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 5>All the time.

629
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 6>And why did you start getting the inkling?

630
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 8>So when I kept seeing those guys going more fires

631
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 8>than we were going on at the Boxer, they were.

632
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 6>Leaving going up from going to going to penance via

633
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 6>then you're like wait a minute.

634
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:18.240
<v Speaker 8>But then we were distanced away from them, you know,

635
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 8>so we never had any issues or problems or nothing,

636
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.680
<v Speaker 8>you know. With the rescue, we got along. We never

637
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 8>had an issue, and then Rescue two only came. You know,

638
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.640
<v Speaker 8>Rescue two came to our boxes. But even though Squad

639
00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:38.880
<v Speaker 8>one was was there, you know, they were operating, they

640
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 8>didn't come to the two eight. They only came up

641
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 8>to the three seven battalions. So the only special unit

642
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:51.200
<v Speaker 8>that ever came in is Rescue too. And then I

643
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 8>guess it was like ninety six. I started getting the

644
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:02.319
<v Speaker 8>the it yeah, the itch. M Captain Fishler worked in

645
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 8>Mike in the groups that I was in one twelve,

646
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.320
<v Speaker 8>and every time I see him out of fire, I go, hey, yeah,

647
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 8>are you looking for are you.

648
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 5>Do you need guys?

649
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.679
<v Speaker 8>I'd be interested coming over and then he would tell me.

650
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.360
<v Speaker 8>This was like September. He goes, I'll tell you what

651
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 8>it's nice to you're you know you're asking, but you're

652
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 8>looking like twelve, at least two years away. I go,

653
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 8>oh my god, two years. I go, okay, I figured

654
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 8>I asked, and then I see him and then the

655
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 8>fire like two weeks later. I go, hey, Cap, what's

656
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 8>going on? Hey Jimmy, what's up? I go, still got

657
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.119
<v Speaker 8>a long waiting list over there. He goes, well, i'll

658
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 8>tell you what it's down to like maybe a year

659
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 8>and a half. I go, it's pretty good. Two weeks.

660
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:50.920
<v Speaker 8>Cut six months.

661
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:56.119
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna wait two.

662
00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 11>More weeks, another six months com playing golf with a

663
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.639
<v Speaker 11>bunch of guys and someone turns me and goes, hey,

664
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 11>did you hear now?

665
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 7>You gotta remember it.

666
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.760
<v Speaker 8>Back then it was only the five rescues, Squad forty

667
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 8>one and Squad one. That was it. They go, hey,

668
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:18.199
<v Speaker 8>that they're going to increase the manpower and the rescues

669
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.599
<v Speaker 8>and the squads the twenty eight guys. They're going to

670
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:26.400
<v Speaker 8>add three guys. They go, oh, that's interesting. So my

671
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 8>first tour back in the fire house, capt your job,

672
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 8>she fished, you know, Captain fishers work.

673
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 7>I go, Cap, what's going on? Is it true.

674
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 8>That the rescues and the squads again? Three guys?

675
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 7>So he goes, I'll tell you what.

676
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 8>Uh yeah, I go, So, how's it looking?

677
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:47.840
<v Speaker 7>So you go, I'll tell you what.

678
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 8>You're six months away? I go not, there wasn't a

679
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:54.079
<v Speaker 8>month and a half.

680
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 5>I'm down to a year and a half.

681
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:01.280
<v Speaker 8>And then it was a Thursday night, my phone rang,

682
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 8>and home my wife goes, he is a guy named

683
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:05.960
<v Speaker 8>Jay Fisherly wants to talk to you.

684
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 5>They go okay, boom boom boom boom.

685
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Boom boom boom boom. I put a suit on, so

686
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know.

687
00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 8>He goes, I'll tell you what, Jimmy, you're still interested

688
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:22.679
<v Speaker 8>in coming over. I go, yeah, cap I'm interested, really

689
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 8>interesting coming over. He goes, okay, Monday morning. I go,

690
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.840
<v Speaker 8>what what Monday morning? He goes, Monday morning, nine o'clock,

691
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:36.840
<v Speaker 8>come to rescue too. I'm like, you're.

692
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 7>Playing mind games with me at nine o'clock at nine

693
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 7>or what?

694
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:39.960
<v Speaker 8>He goes.

695
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 7>Now he goes, come over.

696
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:43.199
<v Speaker 8>I go okay.

697
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.400
<v Speaker 5>So I hang up the phone.

698
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:48.880
<v Speaker 8>Two minutes later, the phone rings. It's Pete Long. I go, hey,

699
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 8>look what's up. He goes, Jimmy, I just got a

700
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Speaker 8>word that you're coming here Monday morning. I go, okay,

701
00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 8>Captain just called me. So he goes, there's no paperwork

702
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 8>on you. There's nothing on you.

703
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I go, yeah, that's how we do it school.

704
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:08.880
<v Speaker 8>When did you ever come here and see him? I go,

705
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 8>I never saw him in the firehouse. I just spoke

706
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 8>to him all the time at jobs. He goes, Oh,

707
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 8>this is gonna be interesting coming on Monday morning when

708
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 8>you come in this firehouse. I go okay, man. And

709
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 8>then when I walked in, of course all the dinosaurs

710
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 8>were working. Richie Evers and Baby Van boys, Billy Lake

711
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:35.119
<v Speaker 8>was there.

712
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:44.199
<v Speaker 6>And who you didn't it didn't go good? Boy? Oh boy?

713
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.440
<v Speaker 6>I get nervous before I walk in the kitchen and

714
00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 6>like throw your cake in the garbage.

715
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:57.360
<v Speaker 8>No, then the sense in the park lot. But how'd

716
00:37:57.360 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 8>you get here? I go, you know, being the typical

717
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.360
<v Speaker 8>idiot that I am, said, I got my car this

718
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:09.400
<v Speaker 8>morning and drove here. Oh no, So like, okay, you

719
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:09.920
<v Speaker 8>gotta be it.

720
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:11.920
<v Speaker 7>You know, is this where we're going?

721
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 6>I go.

722
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 8>You asked me how I got here? I told you

723
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 8>how I got here. So Richie ever has asked me

724
00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:20.320
<v Speaker 8>a question. I gave him a stupid answer and he

725
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 8>wiggd out. He walked out of the kitchen and Davy

726
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 8>Van voices, you know, he's been here two minutes and

727
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.639
<v Speaker 8>you're on a pistol off to see you man. I go.

728
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:35.400
<v Speaker 8>He goes, just shaking his head, laughing. And then Richie

729
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.800
<v Speaker 8>came downstairs and says, there's no paperwork on you nothing.

730
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.039
<v Speaker 8>I go. Never came for an interview. I just we

731
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:48.519
<v Speaker 8>spoke to the captain of jobs. So he goes really,

732
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:51.360
<v Speaker 8>I go, yeah, I'm not lying to you, man, I go,

733
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 8>I never never walked foot in its fire till this morning.

734
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 8>So he walks out of the kitchen again. David Van

735
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.280
<v Speaker 8>Voice looks at his watch. He goes, I've minute you

736
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 8>because the senior man twice give me perfect man. And

737
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 8>the thing was that she was and I became pretty

738
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:17.519
<v Speaker 8>good friends after that.

739
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Really, how long did it take you to feel like

740
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:23.199
<v Speaker 5>you were comfortable.

741
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:29.519
<v Speaker 8>With It was total they had you had to give,

742
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, to show that you're.

743
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.280
<v Speaker 6>Just gonna say that, Jim, you gotta you gotta like

744
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 6>your first job yourself.

745
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.239
<v Speaker 8>And yeah, I proved myself. You know.

746
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:42.320
<v Speaker 6>It was just.

747
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.400
<v Speaker 8>Totally And Michael tell you it was tough, you know,

748
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 8>until they gained your respect and you proved yourself and

749
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 8>then once you did that, you were basically welcome into

750
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 8>the family. So it took me, I'd say like maybe

751
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.840
<v Speaker 8>two months month and a half. And we caught a

752
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:09.440
<v Speaker 8>ripping jab down on East to two and oh Man,

753
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:12.159
<v Speaker 8>right off the belt Parkway. I'll think of the name

754
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.719
<v Speaker 8>of the street. This place is raw and we get

755
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 8>up to the second floor and the engine said, we're

756
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 8>running out of air. You guys take the line who

757
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:21.760
<v Speaker 8>are you? Like?

758
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:25.320
<v Speaker 7>They always told, never say who you are?

759
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, it's.

760
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.719
<v Speaker 8>I gave it a line because he ran out of air.

761
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:35.679
<v Speaker 7>I was packing him up.

762
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.440
<v Speaker 8>He gave me the line. He ran down and grabbed

763
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 8>his tank and knocked down two mbs of fire by myself,

764
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 8>and some guy's yelling at me, who's got the nozzle?

765
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:46.119
<v Speaker 5>I go, it's me.

766
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 7>Well who knew?

767
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:53.159
<v Speaker 8>I go find out And it turned out to be

768
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 8>Timmy Higgins. I want to know who it was. And

769
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 8>then that was it. That was the proving point.

770
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:01.039
<v Speaker 5>That's it?

771
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:02.920
<v Speaker 8>So, oh.

772
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 5>Who was the other guy?

773
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:09.639
<v Speaker 8>Old? Got to remember the things.

774
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:11.159
<v Speaker 5>It'll come back to you, don't worry.

775
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 8>That was it? Boris and East too?

776
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:15.559
<v Speaker 6>All right, you want to we'll get to Glenn and

777
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 6>then we'll come back to Sandis. We'll sucked. So how

778
00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:21.960
<v Speaker 6>did you come up with the idea? How did this come?

779
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.360
<v Speaker 6>How did they come to you? Kid?

780
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:28.079
<v Speaker 12>So, Jimmy and Danny Potter worked together in one twelve

781
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 12>and Dane and I had just done the book They

782
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 12>Saved New York, and Jimmy uh spoke to Dan and

783
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:40.199
<v Speaker 12>at funeral and said, hey, can I can I get

784
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.840
<v Speaker 12>Glenn's phone number and contact and Uh, dames like sure.

785
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 12>So we called me up one day and he said,

786
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 12>you remember me Rescue Too? Of course yeah, because we

787
00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:51.440
<v Speaker 12>got on. I was in Massapequa, he was in Hempstead,

788
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 12>same year, seventy four, well the same age, and uh,

789
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.719
<v Speaker 12>Jimmy calls me up and says, we got a one

790
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 12>hundred year anniversary coming up and we want to do

791
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 12>a book like on a company on a celebration, and

792
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:03.119
<v Speaker 12>can you come down?

793
00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:04.840
<v Speaker 10>So took the trade up.

794
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 12>He met me at Barkley Center and walked into quarters

795
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:12.599
<v Speaker 12>and an hour later I had had had an assignment

796
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:16.519
<v Speaker 12>with Rescue Too. And it was a really different than

797
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.440
<v Speaker 12>doing my own book because in the in the vernacular,

798
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 12>I couldn't fuck it up and I had to be right.

799
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:25.119
<v Speaker 10>And then you know when when when Liam.

800
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.079
<v Speaker 12>Flattery puts his hand on your shoulder and says, you're

801
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.039
<v Speaker 12>gonna take care of this for us, You've got to

802
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 12>take care of it.

803
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.719
<v Speaker 10>So I started, some of you guys know, I started

804
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:35.840
<v Speaker 10>in the Massive Peka Fire.

805
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:40.519
<v Speaker 12>Department and I still little skinny Jewish kid from Nasau

806
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 12>Show's Massive Pequa.

807
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 10>You know, I wanted to I wanted to get on

808
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.360
<v Speaker 10>a job. I screwed that up. But I've been around

809
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 10>a job for fifty plus.

810
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 8>Years, and I spent Listen, they're going to a job.

811
00:42:52.440 --> 00:43:00.079
<v Speaker 10>Who massive peak job me, I said, every.

812
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 12>I just met and we met up in the captain's

813
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 12>table with Curtis, and you know, Lieutenant Quinn was there,

814
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 12>Liam was there. Mike Myers just a gem of a guy.

815
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 12>He's out of one twenty.

816
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 6>He's uh.

817
00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 10>He was pretty much our contact in the company there.

818
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 12>And the message that I have is that what we

819
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 12>did for Rescue two, every company in the fire service

820
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 12>needs to be able to do that.

821
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 10>And and to be able to take one hundred.

822
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 12>Years of history and put it together was a really

823
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 12>really it was an honor to do. And we did

824
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 12>in writing what Louis Koobs does every twice a week

825
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 12>on the show. So that's that's that's my story. I'm

826
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:49.639
<v Speaker 12>sticking to it. What do you think of that firehouse?

827
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 12>I mean, were you there?

828
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 5>Did you move there? Jimmy, you were gone already when.

829
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 8>They moved to the new I worked in the new firehouse.

830
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:56.920
<v Speaker 5>What do you think of that fire house?

831
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 8>It was interesting and we going to the size of it.

832
00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 8>But and Mike will tell you if Bergin Street was

833
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.159
<v Speaker 8>unique in itself because all the guys are so close together,

834
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.719
<v Speaker 8>right because of the size of the quarters. And that's

835
00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 8>the only downside. You would say, the new files is

836
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.920
<v Speaker 8>so big and large that.

837
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.880
<v Speaker 6>You know, did you take the staircase out of that?

838
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.679
<v Speaker 6>I always felt like that staircase was like no. But

839
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.480
<v Speaker 6>I remember staying the wood like worn out from all

840
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 6>of the guys going up down there. Yeah, incredible.

841
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 8>There was no there was no poll in the fireouse

842
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.760
<v Speaker 8>to slide from the second floor to first you ran

843
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.239
<v Speaker 8>down the stairs. Yeah, so it was unique in itself.

844
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.159
<v Speaker 6>Almost left me there like three times.

845
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it wasn't waiting, so I have to tell you that.

846
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, you're in the detail. Yeah you got the door,

847
00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 6>all right, no problem. As soon as the rig pulls out,

848
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 6>just jump on the back, okay, no problem. Wise out

849
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.480
<v Speaker 6>I hit the button and I am in full sprint,

850
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 6>and I weighed like one hundred and seventy five pounds

851
00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:10.320
<v Speaker 6>and I just barely made grabbing out to the back

852
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:10.719
<v Speaker 6>of the rig.

853
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.320
<v Speaker 8>Like good, you stood on the you know, you stood

854
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.920
<v Speaker 8>on the back step and we hit it. You would swing.

855
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:29.800
<v Speaker 5>Down as far as the proximity to get now quick

856
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 5>and getting at the boxes quick is it a better location.

857
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 8>It turned out to be a pretty It turned out

858
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 8>to be pretty good or an excellent location, right because

859
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:43.840
<v Speaker 8>you're right at the foot of being in Brownsville, East,

860
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 8>New York, going up to Crown Heights. You had King's Highway.

861
00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 8>You could shoot right down at the Flatbush.

862
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:51.960
<v Speaker 7>It was perfect.

863
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.079
<v Speaker 6>No, definitely closer to one twenty over there, right, I

864
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 6>mean are they running into them like first and second?

865
00:45:57.559 --> 00:45:58.920
<v Speaker 8>Do now run in first?

866
00:45:59.239 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 6>Do with them?

867
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Well?

868
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 8>And it was perfect because you hit all the major

869
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 8>thoroughfans did. Eastern Park where you can King's Highway, you

870
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 8>can hit Atlantic Aby, but you know into Borough if

871
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.440
<v Speaker 8>you needed to shoot into Queens. So it was the

872
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 8>ideal location to go. You hated to leave Bergen Street. Yeah,

873
00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 8>but you know, times they changed and the firehouse is

874
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.440
<v Speaker 8>falling apart. There's nothing you can do.

875
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 5>What are they going to do with that building now?

876
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.880
<v Speaker 5>No nos, no, friends of firefighters were trying to get

877
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 5>a hold of that somehow, friends of firefighters.

878
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

879
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:36.400
<v Speaker 5>That's a lesson.

880
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:40.599
<v Speaker 7>I know the community was trying to get it itself too.

881
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.719
<v Speaker 5>They were too Yeah, you get a community center or

882
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:44.159
<v Speaker 5>something like that.

883
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 6>Really is the only building on the block there. It's

884
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 6>like pretty funny, actually it is.

885
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 8>And I think of one time the parks department wanted

886
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.239
<v Speaker 8>to get that property back because of a ball field.

887
00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:58.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, right across the street.

888
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.960
<v Speaker 6>Right, Well, you guys, you guys took the front door

889
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 6>of Bergen and put it in.

890
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:02.480
<v Speaker 10>I didn't know.

891
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 7>I was already gone.

892
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:06.440
<v Speaker 6>That's cool.

893
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 8>We took the front door, just like Rescue one took

894
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:11.719
<v Speaker 8>when they burnd they fireouts down.

895
00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 6>They took the whole front of h No, I didn't

896
00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:16.760
<v Speaker 6>know that. That's cool. I didn't see that.

897
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:18.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

898
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 6>Hey, Glenn, let me ask you a quick question. When

899
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 6>you were doing the book, what were you when you

900
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 6>get you know, we're given this uh task? What what

901
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.800
<v Speaker 6>was your what was your plan? Like what we did?

902
00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:33.960
<v Speaker 6>Did they give you the the outline or what they

903
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 6>wanted or.

904
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:39.199
<v Speaker 5>Did you and Lieutenant Pettit did a lot of research, right, yeah.

905
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I think what what Jimmy doesn't take enough credit,

906
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.719
<v Speaker 12>but Jimmy with with a lot of help, Jimmy uh

907
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:49.079
<v Speaker 12>wrote the history.

908
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.760
<v Speaker 10>Of the company, and so I was more of a coordinator,

909
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:59.559
<v Speaker 10>and I coordinator editor, publisher, photo editor, and and put

910
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 10>everything in order.

911
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 12>So from the first book that I did, I learned,

912
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.280
<v Speaker 12>you know what what actually makes makes a book? And uh,

913
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.159
<v Speaker 12>then this was this was this was application of the

914
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 12>lessons learned. So I think what and it was funny

915
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.079
<v Speaker 12>because Jimmy and I had a lot of time talking

916
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:19.599
<v Speaker 12>about this. They Save New York was basically about the

917
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.719
<v Speaker 12>ninety people that are in the book, and so I

918
00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 12>wanted to take a little bit of.

919
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.199
<v Speaker 10>The characters because you know, a firehouse is a firehouse.

920
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.320
<v Speaker 10>You know, a rig is a rig. But everything about

921
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:35.280
<v Speaker 10>Rescue two is a piece of guys. And four hundred or.

922
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 12>Three hundred and ninety eight others has been four hundred

923
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.719
<v Speaker 12>guys who've been members of Rescue Too since nineteen twenty five.

924
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 10>Says, four hundred guys.

925
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:45.119
<v Speaker 6>That's pretty crazy, man. And so we wanted to do.

926
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 12>Something and celebrate, celebrate both the history of the company

927
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 12>and I wanted to do a lot, you know, just

928
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.639
<v Speaker 12>put a little bit of the people and get that

929
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 12>that's that's the thing that That's what I brought to

930
00:48:57.519 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 12>the project, was putting putting the people in there, because

931
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.320
<v Speaker 12>it's the it's really the company.

932
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:03.880
<v Speaker 10>Like I said, there's a rig and they go to

933
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:04.800
<v Speaker 10>fires and there's.

934
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.639
<v Speaker 12>A firehouse and a bunch of different quarters. But it's

935
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 12>the people, it's the characters, it's it's the there's no

936
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 12>other company in the city that has more more metals.

937
00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:15.159
<v Speaker 10>I mean, that's it.

938
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 6>And you know and and but you want to rescue one?

939
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.840
<v Speaker 8>No, I think so, Mike, Really.

940
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 7>We would have to refer to hashegan on that one?

941
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.679
<v Speaker 7>Would I wouldn't even try against metals?

942
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 6>Right, Well, we could just look at hash As Lapel

943
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 6>and we could understand that that's what I'm already.

944
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.800
<v Speaker 5>So I'll throw it out to you. Who was the

945
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:38.960
<v Speaker 5>most time and rescue?

946
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:39.159
<v Speaker 6>Two?

947
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 5>What fire fighters spent the most time in rescue?

948
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Too?

949
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:43.320
<v Speaker 4>Uh?

950
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:48.199
<v Speaker 8>Dwayne Wood really would do? What time that I did?

951
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:54.360
<v Speaker 8>What do you do? I think over twenty five? Twenty five?

952
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Wow?

953
00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 6>Because he had like four I think he was in

954
00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.480
<v Speaker 6>two ninety he went there, I think with four or

955
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 6>five years. So whatever he ended up having, that's how

956
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 6>much time he did over there.

957
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:05.039
<v Speaker 5>I think eighty.

958
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 6>Let's I could be wrong though.

959
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 8>What he got on in July ninth of eighty seven,

960
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:13.480
<v Speaker 8>he was in the class behind me eighty seven.

961
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 7>He got there.

962
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:15.159
<v Speaker 8>He had twelve years on.

963
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:16.159
<v Speaker 7>A job when he got there.

964
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.480
<v Speaker 6>Oh, he did have that much. Say, you know, what

965
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 6>then what he.

966
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 8>Did over twenty five.

967
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:23.320
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

968
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.199
<v Speaker 8>You know, I'm not pat myself on the back by

969
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.440
<v Speaker 8>no means, but I did just try at twenty four.

970
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

971
00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And that goes to show like when they Glenn

972
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 7>said there was four hundred you know, firemen assigned to

973
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:41.079
<v Speaker 7>rescue too. You know, a lot of these men stayed

974
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:42.960
<v Speaker 7>there for many years. It wasn't like, you know, two

975
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:44.519
<v Speaker 7>or three years and they went somewhere else.

976
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:48.559
<v Speaker 6>You know what it is, Mike, when you're in the

977
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.280
<v Speaker 6>busiest place on earth, you know, you don't really take

978
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.760
<v Speaker 6>promotions maybe sometimes you know what I mean, or I

979
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 6>mean Liams, I mean that probably happened more times. You know,

980
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 6>guys hauled off or they postponed, you know, because that's

981
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:05.800
<v Speaker 6>that's a chance of a lifetime, right, I mean that's

982
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:06.239
<v Speaker 6>the truth.

983
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.239
<v Speaker 7>So, yeah, a lot of guys spent over ten years

984
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.760
<v Speaker 7>there as almost like an average.

985
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:14.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that was the average over ten ten years and

986
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 8>plus was the average.

987
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:19.159
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, because guys wouldn't want to study, right, You wouldn't

988
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.079
<v Speaker 6>want to study until you felt like, all right, I

989
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.519
<v Speaker 6>got a good taste. I'm I'm good, you know what

990
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 6>I mean, Like it's time to get a change. Maybe

991
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:29.920
<v Speaker 6>or something, you know what I mean, like everybody sometimes yeah, and.

992
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.920
<v Speaker 5>You know when when the twelve percent came along, not

993
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 5>that we asked for it because we were there before it.

994
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.159
<v Speaker 5>But why would you want to study? You're the busiest

995
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.440
<v Speaker 5>company in the world and you make it almost lieutenant's pay, right,

996
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 5>why would you want to leave there? I would want

997
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 5>to leave.

998
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:47.280
<v Speaker 8>There exactly, And then you would get big turnovers, you know,

999
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 8>like in Mike's you know, Eric in the late eighties

1000
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 8>or mid eighties to nineties, what was there eight or

1001
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 8>nine guys on your promotion list for lieutenant, right, Mike,

1002
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.920
<v Speaker 8>So they was almost eight to ten guys just on

1003
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:06.599
<v Speaker 8>that promotion list. So now you got to backfill, right,

1004
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 8>you know, So you know, it's pop job for a captain,

1005
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:12.079
<v Speaker 8>Like where am I going to pick from?

1006
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 7>And who am I going to pick?

1007
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.280
<v Speaker 6>Speaking of that gym quick, not to cut you off,

1008
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 6>but I think we say this on the show all

1009
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:22.920
<v Speaker 6>the time, like there's like I loved every part of

1010
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:26.960
<v Speaker 6>the job all my time, but there were times in

1011
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.000
<v Speaker 6>my career where there was like these sweet spots where

1012
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 6>it was a couple of years, you know, where everything

1013
00:52:33.280 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 6>was on the same thing for you, Mike, Like it

1014
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.480
<v Speaker 6>was just these you came to work, everybody was on

1015
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.079
<v Speaker 6>the same page. It's just like you went Jared, working

1016
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 6>with the guys that you were really working with and

1017
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.639
<v Speaker 6>going to fires and you know, maybe not so much

1018
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 6>bullshit or whatever, and it just feels like there's a

1019
00:52:48.239 --> 00:52:50.480
<v Speaker 6>couple of times in your career where that was really

1020
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 6>you know then obviously nine to eleven happened, or for

1021
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 6>me it was when Schilfani got killed and you know,

1022
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 6>changed the firehouse, Like did you have that that that's

1023
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.000
<v Speaker 6>the question for both you. I'll go to Jimmy first,

1024
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 6>like did you have like times where you felt like

1025
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:05.719
<v Speaker 6>this was like perfect or it was the same the

1026
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:06.199
<v Speaker 6>whole time.

1027
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.760
<v Speaker 8>Mike could probably back me up. When you work with

1028
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.199
<v Speaker 8>the same guys, you get to know them. You get

1029
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:18.320
<v Speaker 8>to know when you go to fires, I knew where

1030
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:23.119
<v Speaker 8>if I had the irons, and whoever had the hook,

1031
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 8>I knew where he was going, and vice versa. So

1032
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.880
<v Speaker 8>we were always in each other's minds and we fed

1033
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:33.280
<v Speaker 8>off of each other, and so far as we knew somebody,

1034
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 8>you know, one of our company members always had our backs.

1035
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 8>We always had made sure that not only for ourselves

1036
00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.079
<v Speaker 8>but Gotha bid something went down in the job. We

1037
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 8>were there for the guys, you know, and that's what

1038
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:50.320
<v Speaker 8>the rescue is about, right on the job and you know,

1039
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:53.719
<v Speaker 8>finding first and civilian second, or vice versa, or however

1040
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:56.519
<v Speaker 8>you want to look at it. But we always had

1041
00:53:56.679 --> 00:54:01.119
<v Speaker 8>each other's back, watching out and we I knew exactly

1042
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 8>where whoever I was working with, I knew where they

1043
00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:04.000
<v Speaker 8>were going to be.

1044
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 6>I think that also comes and then we'll get to

1045
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 6>Mike now because I want to hear his story. Two

1046
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:10.119
<v Speaker 6>with that, I think that comes from the fact that

1047
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 6>you had such long times there, right, Like some firehouses

1048
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.880
<v Speaker 6>you could you could have turnover in three or four years.

1049
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.000
<v Speaker 6>You can have like half the guy's gone, right. So

1050
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 6>that's where I'm saying, Like you get the new influx

1051
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.800
<v Speaker 6>of guys and it's kind of not the same. And

1052
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, that type of thing goes through the majority

1053
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:31.199
<v Speaker 6>of guys in the regular you know, uh, manpower out

1054
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:34.039
<v Speaker 6>there right in in any fire house. But for you guys,

1055
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.400
<v Speaker 6>the fact that you had you know, the same officers, right,

1056
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you knew what to expect all the time.

1057
00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:41.360
<v Speaker 6>You had like like getting back to what you'd be saying,

1058
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:45.400
<v Speaker 6>that's ten years was if that's the average, that's that's

1059
00:54:46.159 --> 00:54:47.960
<v Speaker 6>so that makes a sweet spot even longer. You know

1060
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 6>what I mean, right, Mike, I mean that's just it

1061
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:52.159
<v Speaker 6>just goes for longer and longer than that I think

1062
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 6>it does.

1063
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:58.239
<v Speaker 7>And what happens too, is the longer you're there, you

1064
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:01.840
<v Speaker 7>move up in seniority and you know, new guys start

1065
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 7>coming in all over, and like what Jimmy said, you

1066
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 7>get out of your comfort zone a little bit because

1067
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 7>you're so used to the guys that used to work with.

1068
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:14.039
<v Speaker 7>When I first arrived, it was all senior men. You know,

1069
00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 7>Jack Cleehouse, he bonded, you know, Leiolpi, all these guys.

1070
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:20.519
<v Speaker 6>That guy's name comes up a lot.

1071
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.440
<v Speaker 7>Man, my goodness, he is phenomenal.

1072
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:29.079
<v Speaker 6>He's probably smart, quiet right quiet, you know, extremely.

1073
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 7>Extremely talented, extremely aggressive. There was nothing he couldn't do.

1074
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 1>A lot.

1075
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 7>You know, he was battle tested. And now with the

1076
00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:40.360
<v Speaker 7>new guys, now now you feel like, well they're not

1077
00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:43.519
<v Speaker 7>tested yet. You know their experienced fireman, but you really

1078
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:45.800
<v Speaker 7>don't know them personally, and so you get used to

1079
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 7>them and work with them, and then you know, you

1080
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.679
<v Speaker 7>get that comfort zone back. But you know, on my end,

1081
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 7>it was you know, it was time. I was fifteen

1082
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 7>years in a job when I got promoted, So it

1083
00:55:57.639 --> 00:56:00.639
<v Speaker 7>was about that time to try something different, right, And

1084
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, not only that, but also you know financially,

1085
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:06.119
<v Speaker 7>you know, we weren't getting the races we were getting.

1086
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.679
<v Speaker 7>You know, I think in the fifteen years you might

1087
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 7>have got like three contracts. You know, that's where the

1088
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.639
<v Speaker 7>city was going. So you know, it's a little bit

1089
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:17.760
<v Speaker 7>of as you get more senior position, you know, do

1090
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:19.159
<v Speaker 7>you want to spend your rest? You have to make

1091
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 7>that move where you were to stay there or you're

1092
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 7>going to get promoted. And that's, you know, a personal decision.

1093
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:24.599
<v Speaker 10>Everybody.

1094
00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.800
<v Speaker 7>Everybody takes it a different way and it depends on

1095
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.480
<v Speaker 7>not only your fire house but also your family life.

1096
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:33.639
<v Speaker 6>But that's getting back to my point. Is it changes, right,

1097
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:35.960
<v Speaker 6>So you went from this sweet spot to now you

1098
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 6>get promoted and then now you're in a new play.

1099
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:41.039
<v Speaker 6>You're bouncing around, maybe you get a firehouse, and it

1100
00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:43.480
<v Speaker 6>takes a while to get that comfort back, you know

1101
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:45.280
<v Speaker 6>what I mean, It does take some time to before

1102
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 6>you really in that you know, where you really got.

1103
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.159
<v Speaker 5>Jimmy worked with right until they knew that they could

1104
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:52.960
<v Speaker 5>trust you, where they knew that they would test it.

1105
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.039
<v Speaker 5>They probably felt the same, Where is this guy going

1106
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:56.800
<v Speaker 5>to be where he's supposed to be? You know it

1107
00:56:56.840 --> 00:56:58.719
<v Speaker 5>took a while absolutely trust him.

1108
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 8>Never got comfortable because if you got comfortable.

1109
00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:04.719
<v Speaker 6>Got that you dropped your guard.

1110
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so you never and then like if you knew everything.

1111
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 7>You did, yeah you never know.

1112
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:14.519
<v Speaker 6>You never know everything.

1113
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.519
<v Speaker 8>You learned something every day. I don't care how many

1114
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 8>you chat on the job. Every day you walked in

1115
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 8>that files, you learned something.

1116
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:21.800
<v Speaker 1>M hmm.

1117
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.400
<v Speaker 8>If you knew everything, then guess.

1118
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 5>What you don't.

1119
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.199
<v Speaker 6>How great is Woody Man? How great is that?

1120
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 5>One of the best?

1121
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:37.519
<v Speaker 6>Uh he just retired. I mean I don't, I don't

1122
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:39.480
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna tell me to go fuck myself, but it's

1123
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:44.519
<v Speaker 6>I freaking love that guy.

1124
00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.880
<v Speaker 7>He's just so like we had almost founded guys.

1125
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 6>Dude, he's such a job the biggest heart, right. I

1126
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 6>know he does. I know he does. I always had

1127
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 6>a good relationship with him, But I just know from

1128
00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:59.239
<v Speaker 6>like in the we have the group, the group me

1129
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 6>like for for the two ninety one oh three, you

1130
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 6>know he's in there and he'll just like every once

1131
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 6>in a while he'll just throw like a one line

1132
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.960
<v Speaker 6>out that's just perfect. It just lacks everybody back like

1133
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 6>a little bit, you know, it just classic shit. He's

1134
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 6>just a forty bastard.

1135
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, one of the best, one of the most talented guys.

1136
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:20.519
<v Speaker 8>You could build anything. Wow, you know he was so andy.

1137
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:23.320
<v Speaker 6>You doing anything, well, you'll still be going, right, he'd

1138
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 6>still be going.

1139
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1140
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:27.199
<v Speaker 5>Did you drive, Jimmy? Will you show for there?

1141
00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 7>I think I was just show for maybe ten years?

1142
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 5>There you were?

1143
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:35.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so you drove?

1144
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:36.199
<v Speaker 5>I just Liam.

1145
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 8>Then right after that I drove. I drove Captain Rouvlo,

1146
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:43.679
<v Speaker 8>and then I drove you know, Captain Flowery. Definitely.

1147
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.880
<v Speaker 6>How different were the captains from each other?

1148
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1149
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 6>Are they do? They have a lot of similarities, are they?

1150
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, like officers could be totally different.

1151
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 8>They were unique in the in themselves. They had totally

1152
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:06.199
<v Speaker 8>two different personalities. But you learned from both personalities if

1153
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 8>that makes sense? Sure, you know, but yeah, I mean

1154
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:13.519
<v Speaker 8>both excellent captains.

1155
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:17.159
<v Speaker 5>How long has Captain Flowery there? He's there a while?

1156
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.880
<v Speaker 8>Now his biological clock is going backwards.

1157
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.920
<v Speaker 6>You just had a kid right out. Bless him, God,

1158
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:26.679
<v Speaker 6>bless him.

1159
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:28.280
<v Speaker 7>I told him, God, bless you.

1160
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 6>Man.

1161
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 8>I don't biological clocks going backwards to me.

1162
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 6>To me, having a kid right now is like going

1163
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.199
<v Speaker 6>into a triple subseller, Like I don't want no part

1164
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 6>of it.

1165
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:41.760
<v Speaker 5>I think and rest you want a couple of times, hey,

1166
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 5>rescue is it a triple subseller? Get down there?

1167
00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:49.639
<v Speaker 7>The same amount of stands going down? Or is it

1168
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 7>going up?

1169
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:55.360
<v Speaker 12>I literally got something to answer to what you were

1170
00:59:55.440 --> 00:59:59.159
<v Speaker 12>the question you were asking and when you when you

1171
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.079
<v Speaker 12>were on a rig and and rescue too. And it's

1172
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:03.559
<v Speaker 12>really unique when you're.

1173
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 10>Going to a fire. The concentration on the back.

1174
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:11.199
<v Speaker 12>There isn't a side word spoken everybody, and it's it's,

1175
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 12>you know, different than riding in an engine or a

1176
01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:16.320
<v Speaker 12>truck because everybody's sitting on the bench seat, but there

1177
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:20.000
<v Speaker 12>isn't a side word spoken. Every year is on the

1178
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 12>department radio and the handy talkie radio and they are listening,

1179
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.559
<v Speaker 12>and it's just it's just different than than any other

1180
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.039
<v Speaker 12>company I've written with it. I've been around the city

1181
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:32.599
<v Speaker 12>for over fifty years, and it's just it's there's a

1182
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.840
<v Speaker 12>there's a just a special concentration there that that that

1183
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.519
<v Speaker 12>that you know. And again with with Jimmy and and Mike,

1184
01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.159
<v Speaker 12>we're talking about fireing for a civilian second, and that

1185
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 12>is they are they are are are really intense on that.

1186
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:49.360
<v Speaker 12>And I was I was talking to to Mike Myers

1187
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 12>today and he has one of the things that that

1188
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.079
<v Speaker 12>really impressed me is that from the days of Freddie

1189
01:00:56.119 --> 01:01:01.159
<v Speaker 12>Gallagher is that the statistics are you say, firefighters when

1190
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:06.119
<v Speaker 12>you're in the building and instead of fast tip trucks outside,

1191
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.119
<v Speaker 12>rescue's mission is to be inside the building if something

1192
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:15.320
<v Speaker 12>goes bad, and and that that dedication to to listening

1193
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.480
<v Speaker 12>and and it's it's really it's it's different than and

1194
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:21.480
<v Speaker 12>it's a different mindset. And uh, I know and appreciate

1195
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 12>we were talking about Freddie Gallagher, but Liam did a

1196
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.039
<v Speaker 12>did an amazing job at the at the dedication, at

1197
01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:31.800
<v Speaker 12>the ceremony of talking about how Freddie Gallagher really changed

1198
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.599
<v Speaker 12>not just rescue too, how the job looked at rescue too.

1199
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 12>But that pretty much changed how the job looked at

1200
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:37.280
<v Speaker 12>all five.

1201
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 10>Of the rescues.

1202
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 12>And you know, it's just it's a it's just almost

1203
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:44.280
<v Speaker 12>like I think Mike and Jimmy will uh agree with me,

1204
01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:47.559
<v Speaker 12>it's a higher calling and and what you know, what

1205
01:01:47.800 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 12>what the rescue's job is. You know, everybody has a

1206
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.920
<v Speaker 12>good time but when when the ship really hits the fan,

1207
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 12>rescue is going to work. And and rescue too gets

1208
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.360
<v Speaker 12>more work than anybody else, so they do it a lot.

1209
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 12>But it's it's it's really it's a concentration. It's just

1210
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 12>a life of concentration. And you know, you're talking about

1211
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:07.360
<v Speaker 12>guys on a job one year or guys in a

1212
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:09.719
<v Speaker 12>rescue one year or ten years, but it is that

1213
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:12.639
<v Speaker 12>is a they sit around and you know when you

1214
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.000
<v Speaker 12>when you have a lunch or dinner, you're talking about fires,

1215
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.000
<v Speaker 12>and you know, the TV's on and everything else. But

1216
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:20.400
<v Speaker 12>that's a place that lives. That that is you know,

1217
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 12>that is a it's it's a mission, and it's pretty

1218
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:26.199
<v Speaker 12>pretty obvious. There's a there's a reason you know that

1219
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 12>that people are in the rescue and they stay there.

1220
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:31.519
<v Speaker 12>And I just one other thing I want to say

1221
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 12>on that. And got to know Liam pretty well, and

1222
01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:35.880
<v Speaker 12>he said to me, Glenn, he says, when I go

1223
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.800
<v Speaker 12>out the door, I know every guy in the back,

1224
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:41.719
<v Speaker 12>he said, I know every.

1225
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:43.559
<v Speaker 10>One of their capabilities. I know what they're going to do.

1226
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 12>I know and what Jimmy said earlier, I know what

1227
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:47.239
<v Speaker 12>they're going to go do, what they where they're going

1228
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:49.880
<v Speaker 12>how they're going to do it. And he said, I don't.

1229
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.719
<v Speaker 12>I don't let details in the company. He said, when

1230
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.360
<v Speaker 12>I'm he said, the guy's either a rescue guy or

1231
01:02:55.360 --> 01:02:58.480
<v Speaker 12>a sock guy. He says, detailed guy from from you know,

1232
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.440
<v Speaker 12>whatever truck companies isn't coming to work and Rescue.

1233
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:02.199
<v Speaker 10>Two, you know, for the night.

1234
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.519
<v Speaker 12>And that's pretty intense. And that is it, you know,

1235
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:08.800
<v Speaker 12>a dedication to what you're doing and how you're doing it.

1236
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 12>And I think that's part of the the the special

1237
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.800
<v Speaker 12>that you know that that not the allure of Rescue two,

1238
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:19.239
<v Speaker 12>but it's it's really a special place. You know, these

1239
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.440
<v Speaker 12>two guys who worked there, you know, they they they

1240
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.840
<v Speaker 12>they lived it. I just was a keen observer there.

1241
01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:28.039
<v Speaker 12>You know, I spent six months there almost once or

1242
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.239
<v Speaker 12>twice a week, but you know, they lived it, and

1243
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:33.679
<v Speaker 12>it's it's really it's just a certain it's a mindset

1244
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:36.239
<v Speaker 12>that I wish everybody in the fire service was able

1245
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 12>to see what I saw.

1246
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.280
<v Speaker 8>Mike would tell you too, Listen, we were blessed, We

1247
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 8>were lucky guys to get there. We were blessed to

1248
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 8>work with the men that we did work with, and

1249
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:54.800
<v Speaker 8>all the information that they taught us to become better fineman.

1250
01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 8>We were, you know, we were fineman, but we became

1251
01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.519
<v Speaker 8>better through all their learning and teachings apart that they

1252
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.599
<v Speaker 8>set down upon us over the years working with them.

1253
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.679
<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, it's a long I mean you just go

1254
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.280
<v Speaker 6>through the legendary guys. I mean we've talked. We talk

1255
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.360
<v Speaker 6>about it every every week. I mean you think about

1256
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:17.159
<v Speaker 6>all of the guys I LP and the Vidge and

1257
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:20.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, Danny Murphy and you know you can get

1258
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:26.000
<v Speaker 6>boy Solomon. I know so many guys Clearhouse, Clearhouse, you.

1259
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:27.280
<v Speaker 7>Know, like Yankee.

1260
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:28.639
<v Speaker 8>You know, oh time is.

1261
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Like that guy's even better.

1262
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.360
<v Speaker 6>That's the baby, that's the baby. Yeah, yeah, no doubt man.

1263
01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:44.000
<v Speaker 8>They never and I would say as well as myself

1264
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.800
<v Speaker 8>probably Mike, we never thought of ourselves like that. We

1265
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:49.880
<v Speaker 8>just thought of ourselves as regular fine and doing our jobs.

1266
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 6>Stackpole. I was thinking about him, you know, I was

1267
01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:53.679
<v Speaker 6>just thinking about that too.

1268
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.400
<v Speaker 10>You know his son is in the company now.

1269
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:05.599
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, wow, yes, I didn't know that. Yeah, sorry, Miking.

1270
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:10.000
<v Speaker 7>When you go you talk about you know, you guys

1271
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:12.519
<v Speaker 7>at that have served and Rescue two, you go back

1272
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:15.920
<v Speaker 7>to the origination of the company, right, you look at

1273
01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:19.360
<v Speaker 7>those men coming on board, right, and what they went through. You, No,

1274
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:21.639
<v Speaker 7>they set the stage for everybody started right.

1275
01:05:21.719 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 6>They started right exactly, and their.

1276
01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:27.840
<v Speaker 7>First mission as a rescue company, starting with Rescue one,

1277
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 7>was you know, to resist take firement on the scene. Yeah,

1278
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:34.079
<v Speaker 7>so that's where that you started when Glenn was speaking about,

1279
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:36.599
<v Speaker 7>you know, looking out for firemen. So that was the

1280
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<v Speaker 7>original mission statement for a rescue, right.

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01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.280
<v Speaker 5>So you just continued doing so much success that the

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01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:44.639
<v Speaker 5>city said that I think it's time for another rescue.

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<v Speaker 5>And the difference between one and two, I believe is

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01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:52.599
<v Speaker 5>that their own training in house, so they weren't trained

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01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:55.000
<v Speaker 5>like Rescue one was trained at a location before they

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01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.440
<v Speaker 5>went online. I think that one of the uh uh

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01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:00.880
<v Speaker 5>the account of maybe the last school or wherever they

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01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:03.639
<v Speaker 5>were trained. But Rescue too did all the training in

1289
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:06.039
<v Speaker 5>house before they went online, right.

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01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:08.559
<v Speaker 7>And the first rescue, like Rescue one, they had similar

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01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:12.280
<v Speaker 7>to the squads, they had tryouts, right, and they selected

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01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:15.079
<v Speaker 7>their members that way, and then they went to the

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01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 7>school and trained. And you know, when Rescue one was formed,

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01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:23.840
<v Speaker 7>they had a fire in a submarine in the Navy yard, correct,

1295
01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:26.280
<v Speaker 7>And what happened is, you know, it took him so

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01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 7>long to get there from where their location was on

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01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:31.800
<v Speaker 7>Great Jones Street, that you know they got time they

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01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:34.079
<v Speaker 7>got there. They did a tremendous job. They saved a

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01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.599
<v Speaker 7>lot of lives, but if they would have got there sooner,

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01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:39.320
<v Speaker 7>they would have saved more. And when the job looked

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01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:41.480
<v Speaker 7>at that, that's when they made a determination. We need

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01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:42.880
<v Speaker 7>to know the rescue company in Brooklyn.

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01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.039
<v Speaker 5>And you had a couple of guys from Rescue one

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01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:48.679
<v Speaker 5>who had been promoted. Right, I believe it will work correct.

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01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:52.280
<v Speaker 7>Captain O'Leary was the first that he was one of

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01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:55.559
<v Speaker 7>the original members of Rescue one. And when the lieutenants,

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01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.079
<v Speaker 7>the original lieutenants Rescue two was from Rescue one, also.

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01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:01.760
<v Speaker 8>Right, and then Kissing Berger.

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01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 5>Oh, Kissing Berger too.

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01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:04.599
<v Speaker 6>Oh.

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01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.079
<v Speaker 8>He was a legend. You know. He came from Rescue

1312
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.840
<v Speaker 8>one to Rescue two, gets promoted, goes to Rescue one,

1313
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.000
<v Speaker 8>slide opens up and Rescue two and he comes back

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01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:16.360
<v Speaker 8>as a lieutenant Rescue two.

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01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:16.840
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:18.960
<v Speaker 5>And that's when they were. They were originally on.

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01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:23.239
<v Speaker 8>J Street, I think Elton, and then they went to

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01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 8>J Street and they came back to Carlton and.

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01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:29.800
<v Speaker 6>The one that Ornate firehouse coops. That's that big.

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01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:34.280
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Yeah, that's headquarters. It had the round of round

1321
01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:37.920
<v Speaker 5>opening right. It was a Carlton Jay and then back

1322
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:39.480
<v Speaker 5>to Carlton and over to.

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01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:45.079
<v Speaker 6>Bergen as Sandy's what that guy? That guy that Tommy Donnelly.

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01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:48.280
<v Speaker 8>That was at nine o'clock in the morning the night

1325
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:51.559
<v Speaker 8>the night tour. I think we had three seconds and

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01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:54.480
<v Speaker 8>two old hands. Wow, and that was the day of

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01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:56.800
<v Speaker 8>the I knew what do you call it? Took that

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01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:00.400
<v Speaker 8>picture Sandy Williams because that day was sad. He was

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01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.960
<v Speaker 8>the Belmont Race, so he would always go to Belmont

1330
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:04.639
<v Speaker 8>Race and come.

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01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:05.440
<v Speaker 7>In and ride with us.

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01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:07.719
<v Speaker 6>Who's that? Who's that boss there?

1333
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:14.800
<v Speaker 7>Jim Tony was a Fineman rescue too.

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01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Kevin o'rooke didn't fit the mold. He was too nice

1335
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:19.399
<v Speaker 5>of a guy.

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01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.079
<v Speaker 8>Man, that guy wasn't man.

1337
01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:26.279
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, he's the best.

1338
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:30.279
<v Speaker 7>You know, yell at him.

1339
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:33.800
<v Speaker 8>Kevin would apologize for them, you know, don't you know

1340
01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:35.119
<v Speaker 8>they're all right, they're very.

1341
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:39.359
<v Speaker 5>I didn't fit the rescue too bold, that guy like he's.

1342
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:44.159
<v Speaker 8>Too Tommy Donald, Timmy Higgins, myself, Louis Sherriff.

1343
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:48.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Tommy Donald's another humble dude.

1344
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:48.960
<v Speaker 9>Man.

1345
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:51.119
<v Speaker 6>He just every time I you know, I send him

1346
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:53.279
<v Speaker 6>a text or something. He always texts me back. I

1347
01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:54.800
<v Speaker 6>know he's got a lot going on. I think he's

1348
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:58.960
<v Speaker 6>doing some political stuff. But uh, you know the.

1349
01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:03.960
<v Speaker 9>Guys a twist, yeah, mister Steele and sex appeals that

1350
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:05.319
<v Speaker 9>they say right, that same to be.

1351
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:08.199
<v Speaker 6>That seemed to be a common theme too, like guys

1352
01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 6>from two going to one? Right, quite a few guys

1353
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 6>that and did that Mike uh, Tommy Donald did. Billy

1354
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:19.119
<v Speaker 6>Ryan was Billy Ryan, and two he was right?

1355
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:20.399
<v Speaker 8>Three?

1356
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:22.039
<v Speaker 6>Was it three? Yeah?

1357
01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, right, the one time you had all the lieutenants

1358
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.760
<v Speaker 8>from Rescue one and four all Fineman and Rescue two.

1359
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Today she did the opposite, he went from one

1360
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:40.840
<v Speaker 5>to two right, m hm oh the fisher Gallagher and.

1361
01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:47.319
<v Speaker 8>Ye yeah, Keith Gallagher will come to breakfast. You know

1362
01:09:47.439 --> 01:09:49.600
<v Speaker 8>he comes to breakfast now and then uh huh.

1363
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:53.159
<v Speaker 6>He's like a button people talk to you.

1364
01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, everyone goes because they want to listen to his stories.

1365
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.199
<v Speaker 6>Coobs always says to me, you think he at the

1366
01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.479
<v Speaker 6>chief chief. Gally Freddy was his his son was my

1367
01:10:03.560 --> 01:10:06.319
<v Speaker 6>chauffriend when I was three. For a long time, I'm like, yeah,

1368
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:07.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't know if I could get I

1369
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.319
<v Speaker 6>don't know that would be too Uh you think he

1370
01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.159
<v Speaker 6>would come on Jim, Probably not right.

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01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 5>Don't you know?

1372
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.880
<v Speaker 8>You'd probably call him, he'll answer the phone. You know. Yeah,

1373
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 8>he showed up, you know what, a hundred down of versery. Afterwards,

1374
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 8>you know, he sat down and was talking with everybody.

1375
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:27.079
<v Speaker 8>I think he was, you know, in his glory that day,

1376
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 8>seeing everybody from when he would working when he worked

1377
01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:30.920
<v Speaker 8>there in the rescue too.

1378
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 5>Only one way to find out.

1379
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.640
<v Speaker 6>Rough who's the who's the other guy? Coves that? Uh?

1380
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:39.079
<v Speaker 6>I never remember the fucker's name from the four one? Uh,

1381
01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:43.279
<v Speaker 6>Jack Pritchard Pritchet That guy.

1382
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 5>Picked up the phone once. Hey you can have I'm like.

1383
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:54.800
<v Speaker 8>It was funny because how many chiefs who were fineming

1384
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:57.680
<v Speaker 8>and rescue too become chief in the four one battalion

1385
01:10:58.960 --> 01:11:01.039
<v Speaker 8>had Jack Pritchett clear.

1386
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.560
<v Speaker 6>House, right, you had this guy Tom.

1387
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:10.640
<v Speaker 8>Oh boy just drew a blank. I'll think of it. No,

1388
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:19.600
<v Speaker 8>oh boy, I just drew a blank. Ah. It was

1389
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.239
<v Speaker 8>a Tom and a Bob there caught that same last name.

1390
01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:26.319
<v Speaker 5>Three off, I said, I think of it.

1391
01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:31.960
<v Speaker 8>Let me google real fist. Lou We were talking about

1392
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:38.640
<v Speaker 8>Captain Gallaghermly was a fireman and rescue too, and was

1393
01:11:38.680 --> 01:11:41.399
<v Speaker 8>a chief and a four one battalion that was.

1394
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 6>Like the plane crash though there was got What were

1395
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:45.680
<v Speaker 6>you saying, Mike.

1396
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:48.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, we're talking about Freddy Gallagher earlier before he started

1397
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:52.359
<v Speaker 7>the show. He was instrumental and turning around the rescue

1398
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:55.359
<v Speaker 7>company from more of a special unit to you know,

1399
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:58.640
<v Speaker 7>what the rescue should be. And he wrote the mission

1400
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.840
<v Speaker 7>of the rescue company like nineteen seventy four when he

1401
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:04.359
<v Speaker 7>first got there as a captain. He was a fireman

1402
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:07.560
<v Speaker 7>there as well. I didn't know that in the sixties.

1403
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:11.079
<v Speaker 7>So when he wrote the mission to rescue outlining what

1404
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:13.760
<v Speaker 7>the rescue can it cannot do, and how he can

1405
01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:18.119
<v Speaker 7>be instrumental for the chief officers, that he turned around

1406
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:21.640
<v Speaker 7>because before he got there, they had certain battalions they

1407
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:24.680
<v Speaker 7>would respond to on the first alarm, and then certain

1408
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:28.119
<v Speaker 7>battalions on the second law and then special calls after that,

1409
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:33.000
<v Speaker 7>so they really didn't run that often. When they did work,

1410
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 7>when they got special call, they did work. They did

1411
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:38.119
<v Speaker 7>a lot of great work. But Freddie got there, excuse

1412
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.840
<v Speaker 7>me calling I got there. He was instrumental and putting

1413
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.560
<v Speaker 7>them on ten seventy fives, you know, not only in

1414
01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:47.600
<v Speaker 7>those battalions that were he would first do at but

1415
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.199
<v Speaker 7>spread it throughout the entire borough. And they had a

1416
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:53.079
<v Speaker 7>little bit of a conflict with the guys that were

1417
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 7>there before he got there that didn't really want to

1418
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.399
<v Speaker 7>do that. They wanted to be a special unit, just

1419
01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:02.840
<v Speaker 7>be special called all changed. They changed, and he changed it.

1420
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.399
<v Speaker 7>And he went and built a company in his his

1421
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:08.960
<v Speaker 7>eyes and what he wanted it to be. And he

1422
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.439
<v Speaker 7>brought over those guys we were talking about earlier, you know,

1423
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:15.520
<v Speaker 7>Cleehouse and all those guys, and he changed the company

1424
01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:18.600
<v Speaker 7>to make it a true fire company, fire rescue company.

1425
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:21.920
<v Speaker 5>Did you I didn't see it in the book here,

1426
01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.479
<v Speaker 5>but I had read in the Brooklyn Eagle that their

1427
01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:27.279
<v Speaker 5>very first job though that day they almost died.

1428
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:29.439
<v Speaker 8>What's that they almost all died?

1429
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:32.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they almost. The first job that they went to, it.

1430
01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:36.319
<v Speaker 7>Was a full story loft building in Furman Street, and

1431
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:38.600
<v Speaker 7>they were called on a second along a special call,

1432
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.760
<v Speaker 7>and they were assigned to the top floor of the

1433
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:44.760
<v Speaker 7>fire building. And it was a captain and two of

1434
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.600
<v Speaker 7>the firemen that wound up getting, you know, unconscious on

1435
01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:52.800
<v Speaker 7>the fire floor. There was a backdraft that almost blew

1436
01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:54.560
<v Speaker 7>two other fire rescue two firemen off.

1437
01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:58.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and then they actually pulled them out down the

1438
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:00.279
<v Speaker 5>portable right now and.

1439
01:14:00.279 --> 01:14:03.159
<v Speaker 7>Had recesitatum in the street to were transport at the

1440
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.760
<v Speaker 7>hospital and recessitated there. So it would have been the

1441
01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:08.600
<v Speaker 7>life of rescue two at that time, could have been

1442
01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:09.399
<v Speaker 7>just seven days.

1443
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:20.359
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, there's a picture in the Yeah it's in the

1444
01:14:20.439 --> 01:14:24.840
<v Speaker 8>Brooklyn Eagle of them laying in the sitting in the street.

1445
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 8>I have that our company.

1446
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that, that picture before you

1447
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:32.800
<v Speaker 6>guys went to Now they went to the plane crash

1448
01:14:33.039 --> 01:14:36.479
<v Speaker 6>and this party within like went to a couple of weeks.

1449
01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:39.359
<v Speaker 5>Days, three days.

1450
01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:42.680
<v Speaker 6>I remember we talked, We talked about that, Yeah, talking

1451
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:43.000
<v Speaker 6>about that.

1452
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:44.960
<v Speaker 8>It was they think two days later.

1453
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.520
<v Speaker 6>Uh, Bobby Mosa was also in the four one.

1454
01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:54.720
<v Speaker 8>Bobby Mosa was in the foll one right, but they

1455
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:56.840
<v Speaker 8>said the deck was so hot that boots were melting.

1456
01:14:57.399 --> 01:14:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1457
01:14:57.880 --> 01:14:59.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was a tough fire We did that with

1458
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:02.159
<v Speaker 5>We did a whole show on that and that was

1459
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:03.359
<v Speaker 5>a crazy fire man.

1460
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:06.479
<v Speaker 6>Like what those guys did to get to Again, you're

1461
01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:10.960
<v Speaker 6>talking about how many nineteen sixty like they had nothing,

1462
01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:12.279
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean, Like you saw what that

1463
01:15:12.479 --> 01:15:14.920
<v Speaker 6>that ship just looked like right there. It was like incredible,

1464
01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:15.239
<v Speaker 6>you know.

1465
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:18.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And that's why Lieutenant Hamilton was him in uh

1466
01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:23.359
<v Speaker 7>Hemmy's archer. Hank Searcher started rescuing the people below deck

1467
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:28.159
<v Speaker 7>and when Lieutenant Hamilton passed out and Hank Searcher had

1468
01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 7>to put him on his shoulder and carrying up the

1469
01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:34.840
<v Speaker 7>ladder when he was unconscious, and both were received. I

1470
01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:36.359
<v Speaker 7>think class once for that rescue.

1471
01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:43.720
<v Speaker 6>Murphy as I help downing strong guy. Somebody squinting there,

1472
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:47.560
<v Speaker 6>I think that's Sandas Cameron. We didn't talk about Cameron.

1473
01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:49.479
<v Speaker 6>He's seeing a guy, one of the senior guys, Cameron.

1474
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:50.199
<v Speaker 9>Man.

1475
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Now they got a shook. Guy did too, I did.

1476
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:53.720
<v Speaker 5>I have to say.

1477
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:58.720
<v Speaker 6>When I watched the the uh the centennial day and

1478
01:15:58.720 --> 01:16:02.760
<v Speaker 6>everybody was getting up and speaking, I thought that Jimmy Love,

1479
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:05.239
<v Speaker 6>I think he did a great job. Yeah, I did

1480
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:05.800
<v Speaker 6>a great job.

1481
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:06.000
<v Speaker 8>Man.

1482
01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Is this Paul By the.

1483
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 7>Way, that's Charlie Williams.

1484
01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:11.840
<v Speaker 8>Charlie Williams.

1485
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Took it up.

1486
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:18.319
<v Speaker 10>I think that's a U. Two photographers.

1487
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.680
<v Speaker 12>You got to mention all the all the great photographers

1488
01:16:20.720 --> 01:16:24.159
<v Speaker 12>who contributed to to two guys who went over and

1489
01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:28.680
<v Speaker 12>above and found pictures from this era actually three Bobby

1490
01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:34.720
<v Speaker 12>Dispatcher and of course Warren Fuchs and uh John Dwyer and.

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01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:41.239
<v Speaker 10>You know to guys is Grogan and Lloyd Mitchell.

1492
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:42.079
<v Speaker 5>Takes great pictures.

1493
01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:44.640
<v Speaker 7>He's down.

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01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Put my glasses on over God, Wow, you need to

1495
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:52.680
<v Speaker 1>get some prescription, chick.

1496
01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:58.319
<v Speaker 5>The way I got into doing is, you know, he

1497
01:16:58.439 --> 01:16:59.880
<v Speaker 5>had to be stole upon you.

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01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:08.319
<v Speaker 8>So after the death of Billy Moon, and you know, Kevin,

1499
01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:12.399
<v Speaker 8>when you lose a guy in a fire or after

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01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:16.680
<v Speaker 8>fall this day fire, you know, your minds are going

1501
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:22.800
<v Speaker 8>in ten thousand different directions. So after Billy Moon passed away,

1502
01:17:24.119 --> 01:17:26.880
<v Speaker 8>I figured, you know what, I'll see what I could

1503
01:17:26.880 --> 01:17:30.560
<v Speaker 8>do to help them out. And I called Paul Hairshaken,

1504
01:17:31.239 --> 01:17:34.039
<v Speaker 8>who I've known for years, and I went over his house.

1505
01:17:34.079 --> 01:17:37.079
<v Speaker 8>I go, how do you start writing a history? And

1506
01:17:37.279 --> 01:17:41.239
<v Speaker 8>Paul spent a good three hours with me telling me

1507
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.560
<v Speaker 8>where to research, how to research, and what to look for,

1508
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:48.720
<v Speaker 8>and then he gave me a few pointers and he

1509
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:54.439
<v Speaker 8>gave me information as well, and then I just took

1510
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 8>off from there. And it took me about maybe three

1511
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:02.359
<v Speaker 8>months right to do all this research, looking up finding

1512
01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:05.680
<v Speaker 8>all these guys. So Paul hash Egging was a big

1513
01:18:05.800 --> 01:18:09.239
<v Speaker 8>contributor helping maybe make this and then I could just

1514
01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:13.760
<v Speaker 8>keep going. Mike Penna helped me out great time. John

1515
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.960
<v Speaker 8>Paulson down at the library.

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01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:21.079
<v Speaker 5>There was a lot of stuff, and you know what

1517
01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:24.880
<v Speaker 5>it is that all that stuff is digitalized now digitized digitalized,

1518
01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:27.319
<v Speaker 5>so he could send that in an email Twitter.

1519
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:30.680
<v Speaker 8>What was funny was he gave me a list of

1520
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:35.520
<v Speaker 8>all the medal winners as well as unit citations, and

1521
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:38.039
<v Speaker 8>I sent them back an email and said, you left

1522
01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:40.800
<v Speaker 8>three guys out that won medals and you left out

1523
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:42.199
<v Speaker 8>three unit citations.

1524
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:45.039
<v Speaker 6>Really, so he calls me up.

1525
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:47.159
<v Speaker 7>He goes, I don't know.

1526
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 8>I go, I'm telling you, I'll tell you where to

1527
01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:51.800
<v Speaker 8>find them. He goes, I got to research this. And

1528
01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.279
<v Speaker 8>two days later he called me up. He goes, you're

1529
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:57.439
<v Speaker 8>absolutely right. There are three more medal winners that you

1530
01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 8>found as well as three unit citations.

1531
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:00.760
<v Speaker 10>That's pretty good.

1532
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:03.319
<v Speaker 5>Where's Freddy Galla?

1533
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.239
<v Speaker 10>I'm sorry, right next to the chief on the right there.

1534
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:10.399
<v Speaker 6>The chops put that door back up there. Can you

1535
01:19:10.439 --> 01:19:13.880
<v Speaker 6>imagine if you had that door right now? Uh huh.

1536
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:19.840
<v Speaker 8>That's that's in the new firehouse, Is it that?

1537
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:22.960
<v Speaker 1>What was in the office that was like from nineteen

1538
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:24.640
<v Speaker 1>save us some history there, man.

1539
01:19:25.199 --> 01:19:27.920
<v Speaker 10>And then I go back to the picture of Christina

1540
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:28.880
<v Speaker 10>Moon and her kids.

1541
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:35.319
<v Speaker 1>They gave me one second. It's a little further down there.

1542
01:19:35.399 --> 01:19:37.159
<v Speaker 5>We go, oh.

1543
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:41.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah it.

1544
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:45.960
<v Speaker 8>So after I did all this, I went to the

1545
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:49.680
<v Speaker 8>firehouse and I told him, listen, I know your plates full.

1546
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:54.119
<v Speaker 8>I go, I had nothing to do. So here's the

1547
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:58.000
<v Speaker 8>company history. You could read it if you like it. Fine,

1548
01:19:58.079 --> 01:20:02.479
<v Speaker 8>if you don't, there, throw it in the garbage. And

1549
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.159
<v Speaker 8>it wouldn't offend me at all. And then they, like

1550
01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:08.199
<v Speaker 8>a week later they called this. They called me up

1551
01:20:08.199 --> 01:20:10.840
<v Speaker 8>and they go, it's pretty impressive the amount of work

1552
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:11.520
<v Speaker 8>that you did.

1553
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:14.800
<v Speaker 7>And uh, I go, all right, then we'll just run

1554
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:15.039
<v Speaker 7>with it.

1555
01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:19.000
<v Speaker 8>You guys want to add the leite change, that's your job,

1556
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:23.000
<v Speaker 8>that's your firehouse, whatever you want to do. And then

1557
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:27.439
<v Speaker 8>Mike helped me out. And then, like Glenn said, all

1558
01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:31.279
<v Speaker 8>the guys that had pictures, you know, they Jim Reagan,

1559
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:35.840
<v Speaker 8>you know Bobby Dannis. Bobby Dannas was a big buff

1560
01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:37.319
<v Speaker 8>back then before he got on the.

1561
01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:43.680
<v Speaker 6>Job, killing me, killing me. He never comes on he's

1562
01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:44.119
<v Speaker 6>killing me.

1563
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:45.199
<v Speaker 5>You gotta be.

1564
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:45.960
<v Speaker 6>Kind to him.

1565
01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:50.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, did you feel a lot of pressure right in this.

1566
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:52.479
<v Speaker 7>No, none at all.

1567
01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:56.119
<v Speaker 8>As a matter of fact, it became addicting. It does, right,

1568
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:59.399
<v Speaker 8>I told you, yeah, I started nine o'clock and the

1569
01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.640
<v Speaker 8>next thing my wife would say, you know it's six thirty.

1570
01:21:03.239 --> 01:21:06.840
<v Speaker 5>You get lost looking at old articles and researching. You

1571
01:21:07.039 --> 01:21:08.000
<v Speaker 5>get lost in it, man.

1572
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.600
<v Speaker 8>And what you would find. I mean, like Mike said,

1573
01:21:12.720 --> 01:21:16.800
<v Speaker 8>they you know, when the rescues became what they were

1574
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:20.079
<v Speaker 8>back then in the twenties twenty five and twenty six,

1575
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:24.399
<v Speaker 8>their main job was to save the firefighters because of

1576
01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:26.000
<v Speaker 8>the amount of ammonia.

1577
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:26.600
<v Speaker 7>That was in the buildings.

1578
01:21:26.760 --> 01:21:30.359
<v Speaker 8>You got to remember all the warehouses that was their

1579
01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:34.439
<v Speaker 8>refrigeration system emmonia, So you get ammonia leaks as well

1580
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:37.399
<v Speaker 8>as it was in the housing of some homes. Yep,

1581
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:40.000
<v Speaker 8>they get ammonia leaks that they would have to go out.

1582
01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:43.159
<v Speaker 8>So they had these pulminators and they had these inhales

1583
01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:45.720
<v Speaker 8>to revive people, and they would work on people. You

1584
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.319
<v Speaker 8>read the stories, they'd be working on these people in

1585
01:21:48.399 --> 01:21:51.000
<v Speaker 8>the street for two three hours to try to revive

1586
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:52.840
<v Speaker 8>them when they When you.

1587
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:56.640
<v Speaker 5>Guys first went online, did you have the got brave thought?

1588
01:21:56.680 --> 01:22:01.000
<v Speaker 5>The helmets, the smoke helmets, smoke helmets, helmet they still

1589
01:22:01.079 --> 01:22:03.399
<v Speaker 5>use it those with rescue two first one online.

1590
01:22:07.520 --> 01:22:07.840
<v Speaker 7>Rescue.

1591
01:22:08.119 --> 01:22:12.680
<v Speaker 5>Yes, there, they were still using the smoke helmets, I believe,

1592
01:22:12.760 --> 01:22:14.800
<v Speaker 5>So that was a i know, rescue one that was

1593
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:17.439
<v Speaker 5>a large majority of the calls ammonia leagues in the beginning.

1594
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:21.720
<v Speaker 7>Ammonia exactly, and that was the whole process of you know,

1595
01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:25.479
<v Speaker 7>not only emonia leaks was prior primary for the smoke helmets,

1596
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.600
<v Speaker 7>but also to find space and below ground fires. But

1597
01:22:29.680 --> 01:22:30.439
<v Speaker 7>the main focus was.

1598
01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 5>Ammonia because you get them out. They would always send

1599
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:33.760
<v Speaker 5>the rescues.

1600
01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:36.920
<v Speaker 7>In with the smoke helmets exactly exactly. And rescue too

1601
01:22:37.479 --> 01:22:40.840
<v Speaker 7>also had an incident with mustard gas that they used

1602
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:43.680
<v Speaker 7>a smoke helmet. Yeah, somebody set over an explosive in

1603
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.520
<v Speaker 7>a theater in Brooklyn and it contained mustard gas and

1604
01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:48.680
<v Speaker 7>people were overcome from that.

1605
01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:49.479
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

1606
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 7>So the smoke helmet was, you know, the primary tool

1607
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:54.520
<v Speaker 7>they had at that time.

1608
01:22:55.640 --> 01:22:55.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1609
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:01.000
<v Speaker 8>And you looked, you know, either buck, so you look

1610
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:04.720
<v Speaker 8>at your the officer's lapel pins. That's what's on that

1611
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:08.800
<v Speaker 8>is the smoke helmet and the what do you call

1612
01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:11.079
<v Speaker 8>it rifle the rope gun.

1613
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:13.079
<v Speaker 5>Lyle gun.

1614
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:18.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So that's you know, two significant things that they

1615
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:19.680
<v Speaker 8>relied on back then.

1616
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.880
<v Speaker 7>Right, Well, the other tool is a torch. You're actually

1617
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 7>settling torch to cut the bars well on the factories

1618
01:23:27.880 --> 01:23:30.560
<v Speaker 7>as well as well as the shutters on the buildings.

1619
01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:32.319
<v Speaker 6>Another chief that was there too.

1620
01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:35.720
<v Speaker 10>The department came out of rescue two.

1621
01:23:36.439 --> 01:23:39.239
<v Speaker 6>Incredible, We had three, right, we had chiefs.

1622
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:41.359
<v Speaker 8>We had three chiefs of the department.

1623
01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:45.000
<v Speaker 7>To come out of res Tommy Richardson two of them.

1624
01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:52.279
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, right, Tommy richards Pete Hagen and John o'hagen.

1625
01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:54.399
<v Speaker 5>John o'hagen, John o'hagen.

1626
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:54.760
<v Speaker 7>Right.

1627
01:23:55.960 --> 01:23:57.880
<v Speaker 5>He's a love hate guy. Some guys love him. I

1628
01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.720
<v Speaker 5>think he did a lot of good for the I

1629
01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:01.680
<v Speaker 5>mean he brought the towel ladders, right, he brought a

1630
01:24:01.720 --> 01:24:02.479
<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff.

1631
01:24:02.239 --> 01:24:06.800
<v Speaker 12>Into Andy talking his tower ladders, satellite super bumper.

1632
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:10.000
<v Speaker 10>He got stuck. I knew him personally.

1633
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:13.960
<v Speaker 12>He got stuck in a bad place between the politicians

1634
01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.079
<v Speaker 12>and the money being counters and.

1635
01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:18.720
<v Speaker 5>The Rand company, the Rand Corporation.

1636
01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:23.880
<v Speaker 12>Ye screwed him and he's just he was. He was

1637
01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.840
<v Speaker 12>a stark guy. And you know at the end he

1638
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:30.399
<v Speaker 12>do so well, treated us so well.

1639
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:32.279
<v Speaker 5>Man. He gave his call blunt that to go down

1640
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:35.000
<v Speaker 5>to the Academy to film there. He's great. We had

1641
01:24:35.079 --> 01:24:36.159
<v Speaker 5>him on the show a couple of times.

1642
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:39.359
<v Speaker 8>Right, the Rand Corporation, right was the wiz kids.

1643
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:45.079
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, let's close firehouses or because let's firehouse.

1644
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to win your WESTCA truck Meisenheimer from to

1645
01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:50.319
<v Speaker 1>make those prank phone call at least from what I

1646
01:24:50.399 --> 01:24:52.319
<v Speaker 1>heard back in the day before nine eleven.

1647
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.479
<v Speaker 8>But it was funny back then, you know. And then

1648
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:59.720
<v Speaker 8>someone wrote a book about it. I read it in

1649
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.279
<v Speaker 8>college about the Ring Corporation, yep. And there was the

1650
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:08.880
<v Speaker 8>whiz kids that were all from M I. T. And

1651
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:12.560
<v Speaker 8>if you look today, I don't know if they're still there,

1652
01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:15.640
<v Speaker 8>but I knew as like three or four years ago. Yes,

1653
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.880
<v Speaker 8>it was still in city Hall. The whiz kids really

1654
01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:22.880
<v Speaker 8>the rain corporations. They came up with the red line,

1655
01:25:23.039 --> 01:25:26.640
<v Speaker 8>you know, around the ghetto areas that were right right,

1656
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:31.560
<v Speaker 8>all the closed the firehouses in the poor neighborhoods, but

1657
01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:35.079
<v Speaker 8>keep the you know, firehouses open in the rich neighborhood.

1658
01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.159
<v Speaker 5>It was cheaper. It was cheaper to burn them down

1659
01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:38.720
<v Speaker 5>that to buy them out. Let them burn them out,

1660
01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:41.279
<v Speaker 5>and will we gentrify like like they did the Lincoln

1661
01:25:41.319 --> 01:25:43.159
<v Speaker 5>Center And then all that burned and they built up

1662
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:48.960
<v Speaker 5>Lincoln Center. That was all housing crazy, right, it's petetin. Yeah, that's.

1663
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:52.000
<v Speaker 7>When when he was in.

1664
01:25:54.479 --> 01:25:56.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, coops.

1665
01:25:56.800 --> 01:25:59.039
<v Speaker 7>When you're talking about the equipment, when Rescue first came

1666
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:03.399
<v Speaker 7>online in the nineteen twenty five you know, you talk

1667
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:07.399
<v Speaker 7>about New York City, you know, with the progression of equipment.

1668
01:26:07.560 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 7>You know, when I got to Rescue two in nineteen

1669
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:14.319
<v Speaker 7>eighty five, we were still using the same techniques for

1670
01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:18.399
<v Speaker 7>ammonia gas. It was like a punk lighted. It was

1671
01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:21.119
<v Speaker 7>this flame to go out, no smoke, but when you

1672
01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:24.800
<v Speaker 7>walked into ammonia situation, it would start smoking again. That's

1673
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:26.399
<v Speaker 7>when you knew really.

1674
01:26:28.359 --> 01:26:29.600
<v Speaker 10>Nineteen eighty five we were using the.

1675
01:26:29.560 --> 01:26:31.560
<v Speaker 7>Same equipment they were using in nineteen twenty five.

1676
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:34.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to put all my chips on that.

1677
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:40.800
<v Speaker 7>In the subsellar, yeah, in the subsellar, we had another

1678
01:26:41.319 --> 01:26:45.279
<v Speaker 7>situation where we had defined space hopes. It was a

1679
01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:46.399
<v Speaker 7>high pressure.

1680
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:50.439
<v Speaker 8>Hose hooked up to a three hundred cubic foot air cylinder,

1681
01:26:51.159 --> 01:26:53.439
<v Speaker 8>looked up to a manifold, and then we had a

1682
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:56.600
<v Speaker 8>fifty foot or one hundred foot of air.

1683
01:26:56.479 --> 01:26:59.039
<v Speaker 7>Holes that we've hooked up to a backplate. Use a

1684
01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:03.800
<v Speaker 7>regular regulator on it and going to confined spaces. That

1685
01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:05.359
<v Speaker 7>was there when I got to rescue too.

1686
01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:06.039
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

1687
01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:10.279
<v Speaker 7>It was also used in nineteen sixty three. Lieutenant Hamilton

1688
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.279
<v Speaker 7>used it to rescue somebody out of a submerged car

1689
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:17.000
<v Speaker 7>off Shaw Parkway and Brooklyn. It was the same exact

1690
01:27:17.079 --> 01:27:19.319
<v Speaker 7>hose that they used in nineteen sixty three where he

1691
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:21.800
<v Speaker 7>hooked it up, went into the water with the mazed mask.

1692
01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:23.640
<v Speaker 5>He move into the water to rescue that it.

1693
01:27:23.640 --> 01:27:26.279
<v Speaker 7>Took somebody out of the car. Yep, this is the

1694
01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:28.279
<v Speaker 7>same equipment we were using in nineteen eighty five when

1695
01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:31.479
<v Speaker 7>I got there for confined space as well. Probably the

1696
01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:32.079
<v Speaker 7>same hose.

1697
01:27:32.279 --> 01:27:35.840
<v Speaker 5>That's what I was using the manholes in. I think

1698
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:38.079
<v Speaker 5>at the kind of in eighty seven, that's who we're

1699
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:42.319
<v Speaker 5>using right well, when we rescued once started, I'm sure

1700
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:45.319
<v Speaker 5>rescue too. A lot of it was all hand tools. Saws,

1701
01:27:46.199 --> 01:27:49.760
<v Speaker 5>pride bars, snips, all that stuff was all hand tools

1702
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:53.439
<v Speaker 5>that they had. Absolutely that was above what the regular

1703
01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:54.399
<v Speaker 5>companies were carrying.

1704
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:56.880
<v Speaker 7>You know, correct, You know the big tool at that

1705
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:58.479
<v Speaker 7>time was the settling torch.

1706
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:01.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, can tackle all that stuff.

1707
01:28:02.079 --> 01:28:04.199
<v Speaker 7>The grip oist was when the tools started.

1708
01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:08.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, even regular jacks they had that other companies didn't have.

1709
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:10.479
<v Speaker 5>But mostly, like you said, the settleinge torch was big,

1710
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:13.640
<v Speaker 5>even rescue one. I have an early when they first

1711
01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:16.960
<v Speaker 5>went online, a video of them using Oxlene style to

1712
01:28:17.039 --> 01:28:19.399
<v Speaker 5>oxy settling torch to get somebody out of window. Boss.

1713
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:19.920
<v Speaker 7>Right.

1714
01:28:20.039 --> 01:28:21.600
<v Speaker 5>It was an early tool that they had.

1715
01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:24.960
<v Speaker 8>To get to the company when it was first organized.

1716
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:26.640
<v Speaker 8>You had to know how to use the torch.

1717
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:28.279
<v Speaker 5>Right.

1718
01:28:28.359 --> 01:28:30.520
<v Speaker 6>That's one of my best, my favorite pictures right there.

1719
01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this thing is classic, man.

1720
01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:36.000
<v Speaker 8>And then their first drill was with the with the torch.

1721
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they did it drill for a newspaper I believe,

1722
01:28:40.319 --> 01:28:43.840
<v Speaker 5>with the torch before they were actually calling a rescue

1723
01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 5>squad back then.

1724
01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:48.560
<v Speaker 7>That's Hobby Richardson coming out of the building.

1725
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:48.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1726
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:50.159
<v Speaker 6>No, that's a great picture man.

1727
01:28:51.079 --> 01:28:53.960
<v Speaker 10>So you know the story behind his picture. Hommy's coming

1728
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:55.880
<v Speaker 10>out of the building after he made the roof rescue.

1729
01:28:56.960 --> 01:28:58.720
<v Speaker 10>That's the fire where he made the roof rescue.

1730
01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:00.720
<v Speaker 5>Man.

1731
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:01.359
<v Speaker 6>Yep.

1732
01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:04.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was definitely a my favorite one.

1733
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.279
<v Speaker 5>I think Lieutenant Pennet, let me ask, I'm gonna ask

1734
01:29:06.560 --> 01:29:09.279
<v Speaker 5>Jimmy the same thing. What firefighter did you work with

1735
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:12.199
<v Speaker 5>that most impressed you? Like, Holy shit, man, this guy

1736
01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:13.159
<v Speaker 5>is real deal.

1737
01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:15.880
<v Speaker 7>Pe Bondy, pe Bondy.

1738
01:29:16.479 --> 01:29:19.279
<v Speaker 8>What about you, Jimmy boy, that's that's tough.

1739
01:29:19.680 --> 01:29:22.079
<v Speaker 5>I know, you got a big list to choose from,

1740
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:25.079
<v Speaker 5>and it's.

1741
01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.039
<v Speaker 7>Like having a fifty two card deck of you know

1742
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:29.760
<v Speaker 7>cards and bab bruth.

1743
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:35.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean it's you know, when I first got there,

1744
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:39.399
<v Speaker 8>Jimmy Higgins Man taught me a lot. Richie taught me

1745
01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:44.840
<v Speaker 8>a lot. The guy was Davy Van Boss and Mike

1746
01:29:44.960 --> 01:29:48.479
<v Speaker 8>you could right. He was so quiet, but the man

1747
01:29:48.720 --> 01:29:53.880
<v Speaker 8>was just always on it, on his game. Taught me

1748
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:54.239
<v Speaker 8>a lot.

1749
01:29:55.079 --> 01:29:56.960
<v Speaker 6>I tell the story all the time. I was in

1750
01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:00.479
<v Speaker 6>one seventeen a week and rescue for was. This is

1751
01:30:00.520 --> 01:30:03.199
<v Speaker 6>when they moved over to two sixty two's quarters because

1752
01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:05.239
<v Speaker 6>they were working on their quarters and all of a

1753
01:30:05.239 --> 01:30:07.880
<v Speaker 6>sudden it seemed like there was a fire around the

1754
01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:10.520
<v Speaker 6>firehouse over there all the time. Like so they basically

1755
01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:14.439
<v Speaker 6>took our first two boxes right, and we end up

1756
01:30:14.439 --> 01:30:16.960
<v Speaker 6>going to a job and the fires out the front

1757
01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:20.600
<v Speaker 6>door and we pull up the first doo to sixty two.

1758
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:21.960
<v Speaker 6>I think I think I was just tell him Polly

1759
01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:25.000
<v Speaker 6>read this story. And you know they used to have

1760
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:27.479
<v Speaker 6>like the old like the little gate there where they

1761
01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:33.119
<v Speaker 6>had the garbage cans, right, and I saw Glenn Harris, right,

1762
01:30:33.199 --> 01:30:35.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm standing on the stoop like trying to hit it

1763
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:37.399
<v Speaker 6>with the can or do something stupid, because I was

1764
01:30:37.439 --> 01:30:39.199
<v Speaker 6>a kid that was maybe a year or two on

1765
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.159
<v Speaker 6>the job. And I saw Glenn take the glen. He

1766
01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:45.439
<v Speaker 6>jumped up on the garbage can and took the glass

1767
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:47.880
<v Speaker 6>and dove in there. And I remember as a kid

1768
01:30:47.960 --> 01:30:51.119
<v Speaker 6>looking in there, and the couch was on fire, the

1769
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:56.279
<v Speaker 6>walls were on fire, the table was on fire, the

1770
01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:59.960
<v Speaker 6>curtains were on fire. And I saw that guy basically

1771
01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:03.119
<v Speaker 6>through the smoke that was pouring out of the out

1772
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:07.039
<v Speaker 6>of the window, I could see him moved through, moved

1773
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:09.720
<v Speaker 6>through the room, and by the time the engine came

1774
01:31:09.800 --> 01:31:12.720
<v Speaker 6>and knocked down the fire and we moved in. You know,

1775
01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:16.319
<v Speaker 6>we followed the line, and that guy was coming out

1776
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:21.479
<v Speaker 6>like he had already searched what what we were going

1777
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.319
<v Speaker 6>to search? You know what I'm saying. And I said

1778
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:25.800
<v Speaker 6>to myself, like, holy shit, man, like that guy was

1779
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:28.680
<v Speaker 6>that was legit right there. You know what I mean.

1780
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:30.680
<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about on fire. I'm not talking about like

1781
01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:33.479
<v Speaker 6>little like it was on fire. Like I actually put

1782
01:31:33.520 --> 01:31:36.600
<v Speaker 6>the the can in the window to try and knock

1783
01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:39.000
<v Speaker 6>some fire down for him. Because I was I didn't

1784
01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:40.239
<v Speaker 6>know what the hell was going on. You know, I

1785
01:31:40.319 --> 01:31:43.640
<v Speaker 6>was a kid. But I think that guy. I've seen

1786
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:48.319
<v Speaker 6>that guy at jobs. He wallet, he calls me, He

1787
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:49.439
<v Speaker 6>calls me every once in a while.

1788
01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:53.279
<v Speaker 8>He still remember we caught a fire on the borderline.

1789
01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:55.079
<v Speaker 6>That guy was the real deal too. I didn't mean

1790
01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:57.159
<v Speaker 6>he'll get you in the spot quick too, right. Those

1791
01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:58.479
<v Speaker 6>guys are getting you in trouble.

1792
01:31:58.279 --> 01:31:59.199
<v Speaker 5>But get you.

1793
01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 8>I remember we caught a job on the on the

1794
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:05.199
<v Speaker 8>border of Brooklyn, Queens and we came out and some

1795
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.279
<v Speaker 8>guy was standing next to me and goes, hey, check

1796
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:09.359
<v Speaker 8>that cowboy out.

1797
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.079
<v Speaker 7>I go what she had? Checked that cowboy out over

1798
01:32:14.159 --> 01:32:15.319
<v Speaker 7>there with his helmet.

1799
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:18.159
<v Speaker 6>He always had his helmet crooked, right all the time.

1800
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:21.800
<v Speaker 8>That guy over there, that cowboy had that cowboy. We

1801
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:24.479
<v Speaker 8>tell you something, if you think you were gonna die,

1802
01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:26.520
<v Speaker 8>you better make sure that guy is working.

1803
01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:30.720
<v Speaker 6>His helmet was.

1804
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:34.000
<v Speaker 10>Always crooked, was Glenn Harris.

1805
01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:36.039
<v Speaker 6>No doubt that guy.

1806
01:32:36.680 --> 01:32:38.800
<v Speaker 8>You better pray if you thought you were in trouble,

1807
01:32:38.920 --> 01:32:41.119
<v Speaker 8>he was gonna work that day because he's coming after

1808
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:41.600
<v Speaker 8>that man.

1809
01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:44.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I should say him one and Quickie too, probably

1810
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:48.199
<v Speaker 6>you know. But now now I'm doing the show, Bondi's name,

1811
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:51.399
<v Speaker 6>Peter Bondi comes up. It's like every week, it's weekly,

1812
01:32:51.640 --> 01:32:51.800
<v Speaker 6>you know.

1813
01:32:52.119 --> 01:32:54.479
<v Speaker 8>Unfortunately I didn't have the privilege to work with him.

1814
01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:59.800
<v Speaker 8>But man, that's way you ever heard, you know, he

1815
01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:03.119
<v Speaker 8>e Van Vorce stories all the time? Man, they were

1816
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:05.560
<v Speaker 8>they were the real deal. I mean all the guys.

1817
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:08.720
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I was blessed. Like I said earlier, I

1818
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.640
<v Speaker 8>mean I worked with three different captains. I don't know

1819
01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.279
<v Speaker 8>how many lieutenants, maybe twenty lieutenants. I worked with almost

1820
01:33:15.359 --> 01:33:18.880
<v Speaker 8>sixty five guys in my career there, and you know what,

1821
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:25.359
<v Speaker 8>they're almost shining stars. Man, Yeah, you know, I mean unfortunately,

1822
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:28.279
<v Speaker 8>you know when Pete Lund got burnt that time for

1823
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:31.319
<v Speaker 8>saying that on that TV show, I worked with the

1824
01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:36.800
<v Speaker 8>best twenty five guys. You do that, you do work

1825
01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:40.680
<v Speaker 8>with the best twenty five guys. And I was blessed.

1826
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:45.000
<v Speaker 8>I worked with the best guys. You know, I worked

1827
01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:49.039
<v Speaker 8>with best guys in other companies too, but they were

1828
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:49.439
<v Speaker 8>the best.

1829
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:53.479
<v Speaker 7>Look what the what's unique about the guys at the Rescue,

1830
01:33:53.560 --> 01:33:56.439
<v Speaker 7>especially when I got there, and the majority of seenior

1831
01:33:56.479 --> 01:33:58.760
<v Speaker 7>guys that actually a lot of them you have to

1832
01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:02.079
<v Speaker 7>have worked under Chief Gallagher Captain Gallagher at the time,

1833
01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:05.279
<v Speaker 7>and the other half we brought over by Downey. You know,

1834
01:34:05.359 --> 01:34:07.760
<v Speaker 7>we talk about the quiet professionals. You know, it wasn't

1835
01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:10.159
<v Speaker 7>a lot of gregging going on. And I did this,

1836
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:12.520
<v Speaker 7>I did that. We come back from the job and

1837
01:34:12.600 --> 01:34:15.000
<v Speaker 7>just talk about positions, We talked about tools, we talk

1838
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.720
<v Speaker 7>about what we can do better the next time. And

1839
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, I had the great opportunity to work between Downey,

1840
01:34:20.920 --> 01:34:24.159
<v Speaker 7>Captain Downey and John Vigiana. So I had the best

1841
01:34:24.239 --> 01:34:24.960
<v Speaker 7>of both worlds.

1842
01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1843
01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:27.600
<v Speaker 7>And you know I had Jack Cleaehouse on one side,

1844
01:34:27.640 --> 01:34:29.960
<v Speaker 7>Peep on the O the other side, and the two

1845
01:34:30.039 --> 01:34:33.720
<v Speaker 7>quiet professionals. They were you know, their actions spoke valumes

1846
01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:36.319
<v Speaker 7>and you know you learn more from just watching them

1847
01:34:36.439 --> 01:34:39.479
<v Speaker 7>than actually you know, talking to them. So it was,

1848
01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:43.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, a unique situation and unique place to work,

1849
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:46.119
<v Speaker 7>especially back then with you know, these guys with so

1850
01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:48.399
<v Speaker 7>much experience they had from the seventies going into the

1851
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.479
<v Speaker 7>eighties that there wasn't a fire that they didn't feel

1852
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:54.199
<v Speaker 7>comfortable at. It was like a walk in the park

1853
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:54.520
<v Speaker 7>for them.

1854
01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:58.840
<v Speaker 5>You never really hear rescue two guys being like like

1855
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:03.119
<v Speaker 5>you say, matter of fact, do their job hard charges.

1856
01:35:03.159 --> 01:35:05.159
<v Speaker 5>You never hear guys like we've had guys on the

1857
01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:07.479
<v Speaker 5>show say I don't think it'll be good guys. Those

1858
01:35:07.520 --> 01:35:10.520
<v Speaker 5>are the best guys that the modest guys like. We

1859
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:12.600
<v Speaker 5>never heard of rescue two guys breaking them. I mean

1860
01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 5>they break out balls when we became a squad. Sure,

1861
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:19.800
<v Speaker 5>but yeah, Bobby's little yellow friends.

1862
01:35:20.079 --> 01:35:24.119
<v Speaker 8>I worry about that. What's that I gotta start off

1863
01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:25.439
<v Speaker 8>to run at night.

1864
01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:30.439
<v Speaker 12>So on nine to eleven, of course, the company went,

1865
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:33.760
<v Speaker 12>you know, responded, and all the guys came into quarters,

1866
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:35.880
<v Speaker 12>start showing up in quarters, and.

1867
01:35:36.159 --> 01:35:39.560
<v Speaker 10>Uh Captain Uvlo was there, and uh uh.

1868
01:35:39.920 --> 01:35:43.000
<v Speaker 12>Bob Gallion showed up, and a Tommy Donelly showed up

1869
01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:47.199
<v Speaker 12>and showing up and they don't have a rig because

1870
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:49.880
<v Speaker 12>the rigs at the at the at the World Trade Center.

1871
01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:52.920
<v Speaker 12>So the Tommy Donald and Dan Murphy go down to

1872
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:56.520
<v Speaker 12>the end of Bergen Street and they fled down a

1873
01:35:56.600 --> 01:36:00.239
<v Speaker 12>city bus and they tell this bus drive of her,

1874
01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.760
<v Speaker 12>get everybody off the bus. You're taking us down to

1875
01:36:04.079 --> 01:36:08.439
<v Speaker 12>Lower Manhattan. You know, there's been a horrible fire accident, tragedy.

1876
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:11.560
<v Speaker 12>So she says her name is Barbara Bird. She sits there,

1877
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.399
<v Speaker 12>waits for them. They load up all the equipment they

1878
01:36:14.479 --> 01:36:17.159
<v Speaker 12>had taken, every piece of equipment that was in the basement.

1879
01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:21.359
<v Speaker 12>They put it on the bus and she drives them

1880
01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:23.840
<v Speaker 12>to within Wat Jimmy two blocks three blocks.

1881
01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:25.039
<v Speaker 8>Down by city Hall.

1882
01:36:25.399 --> 01:36:25.520
<v Speaker 6>Right.

1883
01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:28.279
<v Speaker 12>She gets them all the way to city Hall. They

1884
01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:31.600
<v Speaker 12>get off, get off the bus. They said that she

1885
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:33.760
<v Speaker 12>was for a while. One of the guys was, I

1886
01:36:33.800 --> 01:36:35.439
<v Speaker 12>don't know who was Tom or Dan was gonna drive

1887
01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:37.399
<v Speaker 12>and they couldn't. They couldn't even they didn't know how

1888
01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:39.640
<v Speaker 12>to operate the controls of the bus. So they just

1889
01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:42.119
<v Speaker 12>said you drive, And she said you could have could

1890
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:45.319
<v Speaker 12>have driven the rig to get them all the way stolen.

1891
01:36:46.199 --> 01:36:46.880
<v Speaker 10>It gets better.

1892
01:36:47.039 --> 01:36:49.520
<v Speaker 12>It gives them all the way to city Hall. They

1893
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:53.560
<v Speaker 12>get off the rig. They stayed there till nighttime. She

1894
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:57.000
<v Speaker 12>waits for them all day and all night.

1895
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:00.399
<v Speaker 10>Finding around eight thirty nine o'clock at night, she takes

1896
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:00.880
<v Speaker 10>her all dead.

1897
01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:03.079
<v Speaker 12>She said, she said, I ain't coming home. She goes

1898
01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:06.720
<v Speaker 12>back to the bus garage in East New York Parks.

1899
01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:10.920
<v Speaker 12>The bus never tolds us. Tells a soul what she did,

1900
01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:13.239
<v Speaker 12>and I don't know what was it. Five years later,

1901
01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:16.199
<v Speaker 12>six years later, the guys in the company were at

1902
01:37:16.239 --> 01:37:19.520
<v Speaker 12>the bus garage and they were at shift change and.

1903
01:37:19.680 --> 01:37:25.479
<v Speaker 10>Somebody said, that's her. No way they grabbed her. She

1904
01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:30.880
<v Speaker 10>had her boss one second of that story. She just

1905
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:32.479
<v Speaker 10>like that was like her little thing.

1906
01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:36.359
<v Speaker 12>And they they they went to the supervisors at the

1907
01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:39.760
<v Speaker 12>NTA and they said, we're doing something for her, and

1908
01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:41.800
<v Speaker 12>they got there a plaque on the on the bus

1909
01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:44.720
<v Speaker 12>on the bus garage there in East New York, dedicated

1910
01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:48.279
<v Speaker 12>to her. But when you said about the guys in

1911
01:37:48.359 --> 01:37:50.600
<v Speaker 12>restage too, and they were like, that's just that's what

1912
01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:52.720
<v Speaker 12>we do that, that's what we do, that's how we

1913
01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:54.960
<v Speaker 12>do it, and that's the way they are and and

1914
01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:56.239
<v Speaker 12>that's you know, they said.

1915
01:37:56.279 --> 01:37:59.159
<v Speaker 10>That this lady she could have driven the rig she

1916
01:37:59.359 --> 01:38:01.119
<v Speaker 10>was and it was just, you know, it was just.

1917
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:06.680
<v Speaker 12>A little glimmer of humanity in the worst tragedy imaginable.

1918
01:38:07.119 --> 01:38:11.520
<v Speaker 8>And in that edit never once said anything about it

1919
01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:15.000
<v Speaker 8>till we went there that afternoon, and you know, we

1920
01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:18.439
<v Speaker 8>saw her and spoke to her, and the supervisors had

1921
01:38:18.479 --> 01:38:20.399
<v Speaker 8>no idea. She never told her because she thought she

1922
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:25.359
<v Speaker 8>would get in trouble and not returning the bus on tar. Yeah,

1923
01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:29.199
<v Speaker 8>I mean, we talked about Captain Rubault. Can you imagine

1924
01:38:29.319 --> 01:38:32.800
<v Speaker 8>being a commander. We lose you know, six guys in

1925
01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:36.439
<v Speaker 8>your company and then guys get promoted and we lost

1926
01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:39.920
<v Speaker 8>half the company. And what a great job he did

1927
01:38:40.680 --> 01:38:43.840
<v Speaker 8>in so far as rebuilding a company to where it was.

1928
01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:46.159
<v Speaker 5>You got to get them all trained up, right, I

1929
01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:49.920
<v Speaker 5>mean your own rescues, you go scuba at the high angle,

1930
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:51.640
<v Speaker 5>you get everything. You got to get them all trained up.

1931
01:38:52.159 --> 01:38:55.039
<v Speaker 8>Can you imagine what you know, the amount of stress

1932
01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.600
<v Speaker 8>that he went through just to do that, to get

1933
01:38:57.680 --> 01:39:00.159
<v Speaker 8>the company back up and running again the full right.

1934
01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:04.359
<v Speaker 8>Then it took us, you know, as a company, but

1935
01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:06.800
<v Speaker 8>to at least two years to get to where we

1936
01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:10.000
<v Speaker 8>were full strength again. But you have to hand it

1937
01:39:10.079 --> 01:39:12.079
<v Speaker 8>to him, you know, he went out and got the

1938
01:39:12.159 --> 01:39:15.159
<v Speaker 8>guys and made the company strong once again.

1939
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:17.199
<v Speaker 5>Not only doing that, but now you got to go

1940
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:20.640
<v Speaker 5>to funerals. You gotta, you gotta, you know hardest. You

1941
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:22.800
<v Speaker 5>got to take care of the families. You got to

1942
01:39:22.840 --> 01:39:25.279
<v Speaker 5>rebuild the company. It was a tough time, man.

1943
01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:26.359
<v Speaker 7>You guys all know what.

1944
01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:28.960
<v Speaker 6>We went to find the guys. Yeah, you went to

1945
01:39:29.039 --> 01:39:31.560
<v Speaker 6>the few went to the memorials first. Then they found

1946
01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:33.960
<v Speaker 6>the guys and then you had to go to the funeral.

1947
01:39:34.399 --> 01:39:38.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yep, I remember they were thinking about merging the

1948
01:39:38.039 --> 01:39:40.520
<v Speaker 5>squads into the rescues, right, I mean, at one point

1949
01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:42.800
<v Speaker 5>in the beginning we get get rid of the squads

1950
01:39:42.840 --> 01:39:45.079
<v Speaker 5>and just merging whatever guys were left into the rescues.

1951
01:39:45.920 --> 01:39:48.760
<v Speaker 8>It was the hardest time. Is probably an odd well,

1952
01:39:49.039 --> 01:39:51.399
<v Speaker 8>you know, being on the dog that we all went together.

1953
01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:54.880
<v Speaker 5>And when you were working, you spent some time taking

1954
01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:58.039
<v Speaker 5>ships going down to the pile, right time, going down

1955
01:39:58.039 --> 01:39:58.520
<v Speaker 5>to the pile.

1956
01:39:59.520 --> 01:39:59.920
<v Speaker 7>Mm hmm.

1957
01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:05.000
<v Speaker 10>That was sometimes when you look in the book. One day,

1958
01:40:05.119 --> 01:40:06.600
<v Speaker 10>Jimmy and I are at it was a sun I'll

1959
01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:06.960
<v Speaker 10>never forget.

1960
01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.680
<v Speaker 12>It was a Sunday morning in October and uh, we're

1961
01:40:10.079 --> 01:40:13.840
<v Speaker 12>we're at a session. We're at the Captain's desk upstairs,

1962
01:40:14.520 --> 01:40:15.319
<v Speaker 12>and I don't.

1963
01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:15.840
<v Speaker 10>Remember who it was.

1964
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:18.960
<v Speaker 12>When somebody went into the UH the store room up

1965
01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.399
<v Speaker 12>in the second floor at the quarters, and they walked

1966
01:40:22.479 --> 01:40:24.319
<v Speaker 12>into the UH to the desk and.

1967
01:40:24.319 --> 01:40:27.840
<v Speaker 10>They laid out in front of me the company blog

1968
01:40:27.880 --> 01:40:31.199
<v Speaker 10>books from nine to eleven and opened up the page

1969
01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:33.079
<v Speaker 10>and that's in the book.

1970
01:40:33.119 --> 01:40:35.239
<v Speaker 12>I put I put those in the book, and it's

1971
01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:38.640
<v Speaker 12>just you know, you're reading this history, you're reading the

1972
01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:39.239
<v Speaker 12>guys who.

1973
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:42.039
<v Speaker 10>Reported for duty and the night tour on September tenth.

1974
01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:44.199
<v Speaker 5>It was cool I saw that in the book and.

1975
01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:49.760
<v Speaker 12>Then on September eleventh, Captain Rublo's description and I think

1976
01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:50.279
<v Speaker 12>he ended.

1977
01:40:50.159 --> 01:40:52.000
<v Speaker 10>It with, you know, we know we're going to do

1978
01:40:52.039 --> 01:40:54.159
<v Speaker 10>everything we can to recover our fallen brothers.

1979
01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:58.840
<v Speaker 12>It just you know, that's that's that's history, that that

1980
01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:02.520
<v Speaker 12>you know we're never we're never gonna hopefully ever see again.

1981
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:05.880
<v Speaker 10>And to just have hold the log book in your

1982
01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:06.880
<v Speaker 10>hand on.

1983
01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:09.640
<v Speaker 6>The office record that's the Office record journal too, they

1984
01:41:09.680 --> 01:41:12.039
<v Speaker 6>have that, Like I remember looking at on Garo did

1985
01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:15.159
<v Speaker 6>that for us for two eighty eight. I remember, you know,

1986
01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:17.439
<v Speaker 6>years later when I came back to his lieutenant looking

1987
01:41:18.079 --> 01:41:21.680
<v Speaker 6>at all the stuff that he did, Like again, you know,

1988
01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.319
<v Speaker 6>we were just going down to the pile As farm

1989
01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:24.920
<v Speaker 6>and we didn't know what the hell was going on really,

1990
01:41:25.159 --> 01:41:27.680
<v Speaker 6>but those guys were trying to keep the place to

1991
01:41:27.760 --> 01:41:31.119
<v Speaker 6>float and all the things that he did. Now he

1992
01:41:31.319 --> 01:41:34.119
<v Speaker 6>just passed too, from from cancer from nine to eleven,

1993
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:37.920
<v Speaker 6>but you know all the things his his handwriting is

1994
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:40.239
<v Speaker 6>everywhere in there too. Cat Evans, all those guys like

1995
01:41:40.279 --> 01:41:41.399
<v Speaker 6>you were saying like every you know.

1996
01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:43.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I forgot to add to all of that stuff.

1997
01:41:44.039 --> 01:41:49.479
<v Speaker 5>Anthrax runs were going on the white What else could

1998
01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:53.159
<v Speaker 5>you possibly add to that mix of craziness?

1999
01:41:53.279 --> 01:41:56.119
<v Speaker 6>Right, alcohol, That's what you could add to it, A

2000
01:41:56.199 --> 01:41:58.520
<v Speaker 6>lot of alcohol. Holy shit.

2001
01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:04.159
<v Speaker 8>Some stats I had written down in two We had

2002
01:42:04.319 --> 01:42:09.439
<v Speaker 8>ninety six winners. Four members won the James Gordon Bennett

2003
01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:14.239
<v Speaker 8>which is now the Chief Peter Gancy Medal, right, one

2004
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:18.720
<v Speaker 8>hundred and thirty eight members, one meritorious class ats either one,

2005
01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:22.520
<v Speaker 8>two or three. We had sixty four company unit citations.

2006
01:42:22.960 --> 01:42:28.439
<v Speaker 8>We had fourteen company commanders. We had the first person

2007
01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:31.960
<v Speaker 8>in the FDNY ever to win two medals in one year,

2008
01:42:32.920 --> 01:42:35.800
<v Speaker 8>and that was rich Dunovan back in nineteen thirty four

2009
01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:42.159
<v Speaker 8>at two separate fires. So I mean the history is yeah,

2010
01:42:42.239 --> 01:42:44.399
<v Speaker 8>and then you know, now you're like, oh, I got

2011
01:42:44.479 --> 01:42:46.119
<v Speaker 8>to read into how this guy want.

2012
01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:48.600
<v Speaker 5>To metal on it. That's exactly what I did.

2013
01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:52.960
<v Speaker 8>Like and from one story that I mean, when I

2014
01:42:53.079 --> 01:42:56.079
<v Speaker 8>was finishing, was up to five hundred pages. So there's

2015
01:42:56.119 --> 01:42:58.439
<v Speaker 8>no way you could print five hundred pages. You need,

2016
01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:01.319
<v Speaker 8>you know, somebody that carried a for you. So we

2017
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:03.520
<v Speaker 8>got it down to two fifty or two in a quarter.

2018
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:07.880
<v Speaker 8>But the one story that you know was left out.

2019
01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:10.960
<v Speaker 8>But the story, the newspaper article was in. It was

2020
01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:14.640
<v Speaker 8>the first Gordon Bennett winner that was in it. Bosure

2021
01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:19.840
<v Speaker 8>and that guy if you read his story, they just

2022
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:21.960
<v Speaker 8>happen to be out. They catch a fire on the

2023
01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:26.359
<v Speaker 8>fourteenth floor, the elevators occupied. They run fourteen floors. They

2024
01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:30.039
<v Speaker 8>get there, they go to the stairwell. They grab the

2025
01:43:30.119 --> 01:43:35.079
<v Speaker 8>stanmdpipe hose out the standpipe, run into the apartment above

2026
01:43:35.159 --> 01:43:38.439
<v Speaker 8>the fire. The guy ties the whole hose around himself.

2027
01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:43.479
<v Speaker 8>This guy Jimbo's bowler, goes out the window on his hose,

2028
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:48.840
<v Speaker 8>grabs two people and cancel them off to Dick Hamilton inside.

2029
01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:58.000
<v Speaker 8>But here's the here's the thing about it. He gets

2030
01:43:58.039 --> 01:44:02.680
<v Speaker 8>to go on Bennett. Dick Camilton gets a medal. I

2031
01:44:02.760 --> 01:44:04.720
<v Speaker 8>forget who is in the room with Dick Camilton.

2032
01:44:04.760 --> 01:44:05.439
<v Speaker 10>He gets a medal.

2033
01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:08.920
<v Speaker 8>The poor guy who is the anchorman zero.

2034
01:44:11.279 --> 01:44:16.279
<v Speaker 6>The dope on the rope every time, right, I mean,

2035
01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:20.039
<v Speaker 6>I mean you read these stories.

2036
01:44:19.720 --> 01:44:22.640
<v Speaker 5>Like there were so many guys like that Jimmy that

2037
01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:24.640
<v Speaker 5>people have never heard that this is what we do

2038
01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:25.319
<v Speaker 5>in Hashe.

2039
01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:27.520
<v Speaker 6>We call it all. He does a great job. Dude

2040
01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:28.680
<v Speaker 6>from the eighteen.

2041
01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:32.039
<v Speaker 5>Ever heard of who have done things like that hang

2042
01:44:32.119 --> 01:44:34.439
<v Speaker 5>out a window, or guy's holding on to his shoe

2043
01:44:34.479 --> 01:44:35.880
<v Speaker 5>and he grabbed somebody.

2044
01:44:35.560 --> 01:44:38.560
<v Speaker 6>Else, or off a scaling ladder, like putting a ladder

2045
01:44:38.600 --> 01:44:39.960
<v Speaker 6>on top of a scaling ladder.

2046
01:44:40.119 --> 01:44:42.399
<v Speaker 5>Like Also you never heard this guy's name in your life,

2047
01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:45.359
<v Speaker 5>I mean, like this guy was I mean.

2048
01:44:45.479 --> 01:44:48.560
<v Speaker 8>And then now let's get you addicted to do this.

2049
01:44:51.079 --> 01:44:52.920
<v Speaker 7>The next story. And then you read that next door.

2050
01:44:54.720 --> 01:45:03.359
<v Speaker 6>It's gonna be coffee with Sanders next and you show

2051
01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:06.319
<v Speaker 6>with them, you show did God say this? Though?

2052
01:45:07.119 --> 01:45:11.720
<v Speaker 12>And and it's really important is that when when Jimmy

2053
01:45:11.720 --> 01:45:15.119
<v Speaker 12>and I got together, there were so many people that

2054
01:45:15.960 --> 01:45:18.359
<v Speaker 12>had a part of telling the history and were involved

2055
01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:18.840
<v Speaker 12>in the book.

2056
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:22.479
<v Speaker 10>I know, you guys know Mike Martin Ellie right from

2057
01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:24.039
<v Speaker 10>New Jersey. He's like the new the.

2058
01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:28.199
<v Speaker 12>FDA apparatus guy. So he provided all the rig pictures

2059
01:45:28.239 --> 01:45:29.960
<v Speaker 12>and got that for us. You know, there was just

2060
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.960
<v Speaker 12>just twenty thirty people in the company. The company put

2061
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.239
<v Speaker 12>out a call for photographers and close to twenty or

2062
01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:40.840
<v Speaker 12>thirty photographers put stuff up. So that the amount of

2063
01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:43.800
<v Speaker 12>people who were involved in this project is incredible. They're

2064
01:45:43.800 --> 01:45:45.439
<v Speaker 12>all named in the book. I'm not going to name.

2065
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:48.880
<v Speaker 10>All of them. But the lesson that I think that

2066
01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:49.439
<v Speaker 10>I hope that.

2067
01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:52.560
<v Speaker 12>That people were watching tonight get is that you don't

2068
01:45:52.600 --> 01:45:55.159
<v Speaker 12>have to do something as fancies what we did, but

2069
01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:00.840
<v Speaker 12>record and put that that history stuff down because if

2070
01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:03.079
<v Speaker 12>you can't, if you don't have it, it's gone.

2071
01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:05.239
<v Speaker 10>And when when Jimmy and I went.

2072
01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:07.800
<v Speaker 12>Into the firehouses and started working on a book round

2073
01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:10.479
<v Speaker 12>the end of the summer last year, they're just boxes

2074
01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:13.960
<v Speaker 12>and boxes of pictures came out and stories and newspaper

2075
01:46:14.039 --> 01:46:16.479
<v Speaker 12>clippings and you know, all this other stuff so that

2076
01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:18.439
<v Speaker 12>you know that you know the whole.

2077
01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:19.439
<v Speaker 10>Story about Takes a village.

2078
01:46:19.479 --> 01:46:22.119
<v Speaker 12>But so many people, you know, helped Jimmy with the

2079
01:46:22.319 --> 01:46:24.640
<v Speaker 12>with the history and help me with the photos, and

2080
01:46:25.039 --> 01:46:27.199
<v Speaker 12>and you know, we have a question and somebody would

2081
01:46:27.239 --> 01:46:29.239
<v Speaker 12>answer it, so it you know, it really is a

2082
01:46:29.319 --> 01:46:29.880
<v Speaker 12>group effort.

2083
01:46:30.279 --> 01:46:33.319
<v Speaker 10>And I just wish more companies, you know, you know,

2084
01:46:33.399 --> 01:46:34.199
<v Speaker 10>like I said, you don't have to.

2085
01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:36.039
<v Speaker 12>Go to I have a two hundred and thirty page

2086
01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:39.159
<v Speaker 12>hardcover book, but you can put something together for your

2087
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:42.560
<v Speaker 12>for your company. And I think everybody, I don't Mike

2088
01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:44.399
<v Speaker 12>It and jim are proud of what we did. It

2089
01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:46.119
<v Speaker 12>was just a lot of it was a lot of work,

2090
01:46:46.399 --> 01:46:48.479
<v Speaker 12>and when you held the thing in your hand, You're like,

2091
01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:50.439
<v Speaker 12>this was worth it. You know, this is this is

2092
01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:53.039
<v Speaker 12>the history of rescue too. And I think that they're

2093
01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:54.760
<v Speaker 12>probably going to take a hundred books and just put

2094
01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:56.680
<v Speaker 12>them off in the side in the back room downstairs,

2095
01:46:57.119 --> 01:46:59.600
<v Speaker 12>and everybody who comes in the company needs to get

2096
01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:02.039
<v Speaker 12>that and say, this is the company that you're going

2097
01:47:02.119 --> 01:47:02.279
<v Speaker 12>to be.

2098
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:04.680
<v Speaker 5>You're gonna be. I think Louis said you would like

2099
01:47:04.720 --> 01:47:06.439
<v Speaker 5>to actually hold one in his hand, didn't.

2100
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:09.760
<v Speaker 6>Where do you buy these books?

2101
01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:15.319
<v Speaker 10>What funny you could ask? It's a w w W

2102
01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:17.319
<v Speaker 10>dot rescuet book dot com.

2103
01:47:18.239 --> 01:47:20.199
<v Speaker 1>We put that in the chat for put that in

2104
01:47:20.279 --> 01:47:21.079
<v Speaker 1>the chat for you guys.

2105
01:47:21.239 --> 01:47:24.319
<v Speaker 12>And if any anybody that's watching is going to be

2106
01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:27.960
<v Speaker 12>at Allentown on Sunday, I'm gonna be there with the books.

2107
01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:30.840
<v Speaker 10>I have a stand there where we have these books.

2108
01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:33.199
<v Speaker 10>And also, uh, they save New York book we're almost

2109
01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:34.880
<v Speaker 10>that we're almost out of they save New York, but

2110
01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:36.399
<v Speaker 10>one hundred of these.

2111
01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:39.359
<v Speaker 12>And so I'll be there on Sunday morning in Allentown

2112
01:47:39.399 --> 01:47:41.640
<v Speaker 12>at the well they call it down a spring melt.

2113
01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:45.159
<v Speaker 10>And then and I know the company is going to

2114
01:47:45.239 --> 01:47:52.920
<v Speaker 10>have at the Harrisburg. So it's yeah, it's pretty cool.

2115
01:47:52.960 --> 01:47:54.199
<v Speaker 1>But are you're going to have them at the FT

2116
01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I c I'm okay, I have a couple out there

2117
01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:57.760
<v Speaker 1>for you.

2118
01:47:58.119 --> 01:47:58.319
<v Speaker 5>Couple.

2119
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:01.439
<v Speaker 10>I know a guy who can hook you up.

2120
01:48:02.159 --> 01:48:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You do, yeah, because I know I got a guy.

2121
01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:11.079
<v Speaker 5>Through the appreciation before you signed on. It might be

2122
01:48:11.079 --> 01:48:13.159
<v Speaker 5>a little controversial. I might hurt a few feelings here.

2123
01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't really care. I said that in my opinion,

2124
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:21.279
<v Speaker 5>I believe that Rescue two is the busiest company, fire

2125
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:24.520
<v Speaker 5>duty wise, in the history of the fire service. And

2126
01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:29.279
<v Speaker 5>I gave this example because we all know that the

2127
01:48:29.600 --> 01:48:34.000
<v Speaker 5>neighborhoods go through transitions, right, and different companies are really busy.

2128
01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:36.199
<v Speaker 5>One eleven is busy at a certain time. Now you

2129
01:48:36.319 --> 01:48:39.119
<v Speaker 5>go down to one eleven and there's white chicks with

2130
01:48:39.239 --> 01:48:42.199
<v Speaker 5>a baby carriage walking down the street. But Rescue two

2131
01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:44.640
<v Speaker 5>doesn't need to follow that work around because they go

2132
01:48:44.760 --> 01:48:47.760
<v Speaker 5>into all those companies. So the busiest companies the first

2133
01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:50.760
<v Speaker 5>two companies in the world. Rescue two has been going

2134
01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:54.079
<v Speaker 5>to since nineteen twenty five. Right, would you agree that?

2135
01:48:54.159 --> 01:48:56.199
<v Speaker 5>Would you say that Rescue two is the busiest company

2136
01:48:56.239 --> 01:48:58.159
<v Speaker 5>in the history of the fire service?

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01:48:59.880 --> 01:49:04.640
<v Speaker 8>I would say, right, Mike, I would say if you

2138
01:49:04.840 --> 01:49:07.840
<v Speaker 8>looked at the amount of firework. I'm not talking about

2139
01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:10.000
<v Speaker 8>the amount of runs, but if you look at the

2140
01:49:10.079 --> 01:49:13.600
<v Speaker 8>amount of firework that we we saw duty and operate

2141
01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:18.279
<v Speaker 8>at as well, you know, fire duty. Yeah, I don't

2142
01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.399
<v Speaker 8>think that many people can come close to what the

2143
01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:24.239
<v Speaker 8>company did, and we're not and I'm not, and Mike

2144
01:49:24.279 --> 01:49:27.119
<v Speaker 8>will tell you do to pat ourselves on the pack.

2145
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:28.880
<v Speaker 7>That's just company history.

2146
01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:31.159
<v Speaker 8>And that's why we wrote the book, to let people

2147
01:49:31.319 --> 01:49:33.600
<v Speaker 8>know what the company was all about.

2148
01:49:34.159 --> 01:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, the company has one hell of a reputation, that's

2149
01:49:36.680 --> 01:49:37.039
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

2150
01:49:37.319 --> 01:49:39.279
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you could look at the amount of runs

2151
01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:42.800
<v Speaker 8>that we did, even I think the first one we

2152
01:49:42.840 --> 01:49:45.960
<v Speaker 8>could find was nineteen thirty nine when they used to

2153
01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:47.960
<v Speaker 8>put out the runs and workers and things of that,

2154
01:49:48.800 --> 01:49:54.359
<v Speaker 8>and from thirty nine to recently, the numbers really don't change.

2155
01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:57.960
<v Speaker 5>No, I have the more not I have moll sitting

2156
01:49:58.279 --> 01:49:58.880
<v Speaker 5>right over there.

2157
01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:06.880
<v Speaker 8>Our runs never change. They didn't fluctuate by thousands, maybe

2158
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:09.119
<v Speaker 8>by a few hundreds of.

2159
01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:12.079
<v Speaker 5>That you've seen. You've seen busy truck companies go from

2160
01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:15.079
<v Speaker 5>ten thousand runs and well, they didn't do OSW back

2161
01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:17.960
<v Speaker 5>in the day. It was workers OSW came about what

2162
01:50:18.159 --> 01:50:22.800
<v Speaker 5>in the late eighties, early nineties, something like that, ninety yeah, nineties,

2163
01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:26.800
<v Speaker 5>but then substantially lower, like you see busy, busy companies go,

2164
01:50:26.920 --> 01:50:29.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean six seven thousand runs are busy today. Back

2165
01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:33.039
<v Speaker 5>then in seventy seven, seventy six, seventy seven, it was

2166
01:50:33.079 --> 01:50:33.640
<v Speaker 5>ten thousands.

2167
01:50:33.640 --> 01:50:35.600
<v Speaker 6>It's not listen on the bottom line is you can't

2168
01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:39.000
<v Speaker 6>keep listen to when one O two was busy. Uh huh, Right,

2169
01:50:39.319 --> 01:50:42.239
<v Speaker 6>Rescue two had their first aware. Let's say Rescue two

2170
01:50:42.359 --> 01:50:45.039
<v Speaker 6>had their area and one O two's area, so they

2171
01:50:45.119 --> 01:50:48.119
<v Speaker 6>got w amount of fires, right, right, it's right. So

2172
01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:50.399
<v Speaker 6>but then they also have one eleven's first to area,

2173
01:50:50.520 --> 01:50:52.119
<v Speaker 6>then they have one O threes first to area, then

2174
01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:55.359
<v Speaker 6>they have one So there's no you can't there's no explaining, right,

2175
01:50:55.439 --> 01:50:59.680
<v Speaker 6>there's no you don't have to explain anything. Every company, if.

2176
01:50:59.640 --> 01:51:04.119
<v Speaker 5>There's a job, we'll say, oh, guy might not get there.

2177
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:05.880
<v Speaker 6>They might not get there, they might not do work

2178
01:51:06.439 --> 01:51:08.319
<v Speaker 6>work to be done. They're going to do something.

2179
01:51:09.600 --> 01:51:12.039
<v Speaker 5>Like one fifty seven is doing all the work. Now, well,

2180
01:51:12.319 --> 01:51:14.279
<v Speaker 5>guess what rescue teams going there back in the day

2181
01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:15.800
<v Speaker 5>when one of the three was doing all the work.

2182
01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.680
<v Speaker 5>Matter what did you say before about Brooklyn being the

2183
01:51:19.119 --> 01:51:20.079
<v Speaker 5>fifth What was that.

2184
01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:21.479
<v Speaker 6>The fifth busiest?

2185
01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:24.680
<v Speaker 7>It's the fifth biggest largest city in America.

2186
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:26.640
<v Speaker 6>It could be in the world.

2187
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:29.720
<v Speaker 10>People in Brooklyn.

2188
01:51:30.119 --> 01:51:30.640
<v Speaker 6>It's crazy.

2189
01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:32.640
<v Speaker 7>And one of the things too, if you look at

2190
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:36.920
<v Speaker 7>the statistics, really don't go by them, because I can

2191
01:51:37.159 --> 01:51:40.720
<v Speaker 7>personally attest to this, that majority of the jobs we

2192
01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:43.039
<v Speaker 7>went to we never put in the book. Right, so

2193
01:51:44.399 --> 01:51:46.560
<v Speaker 7>you look at the numbers, how busy you are, it

2194
01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:49.319
<v Speaker 7>doesn't account for every five we went to so many

2195
01:51:49.439 --> 01:51:51.199
<v Speaker 7>many times. It also would just come out and throw

2196
01:51:51.279 --> 01:51:55.159
<v Speaker 7>half of one pocket in the bag, but one pocket

2197
01:51:55.199 --> 01:51:55.399
<v Speaker 7>in the.

2198
01:51:55.399 --> 01:52:02.039
<v Speaker 6>Book back, come back for like nine. The ain't putting

2199
01:52:02.039 --> 01:52:04.000
<v Speaker 6>this in the brought up something four.

2200
01:52:04.119 --> 01:52:07.279
<v Speaker 8>Like you know, when you're ride in the back, you'd

2201
01:52:07.279 --> 01:52:09.840
<v Speaker 8>always listen to the radio and you guys would come

2202
01:52:09.880 --> 01:52:12.239
<v Speaker 8>into the company and they go, what do you you know,

2203
01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:14.920
<v Speaker 8>what should we be doing? I go listen to the

2204
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:19.479
<v Speaker 8>radio and they go, why they go, because we're going

2205
01:52:19.640 --> 01:52:23.960
<v Speaker 8>to out of part of Brooklyn. Listen to what they're

2206
01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:25.000
<v Speaker 8>saying on that radio.

2207
01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:32.520
<v Speaker 6>I got a little something.

2208
01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:41.199
<v Speaker 8>That is the thing because if you went out to

2209
01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:44.279
<v Speaker 8>let's say, out to the three three or you know,

2210
01:52:44.920 --> 01:52:47.000
<v Speaker 8>uh what else was out there, the three three or

2211
01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:50.560
<v Speaker 8>four three, and they would tell you, you know, fire

2212
01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:54.119
<v Speaker 8>is doubtful, give me an extra engine and truck they.

2213
01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:56.359
<v Speaker 5>Don't have.

2214
01:52:56.720 --> 01:52:59.119
<v Speaker 8>They're not getting that fire knocked down. So when you

2215
01:52:59.279 --> 01:53:02.279
<v Speaker 8>make the turn on the block, get ready because you're

2216
01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:03.119
<v Speaker 8>going to work.

2217
01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:07.039
<v Speaker 5>Right, you know, how you how'd you guys feel when

2218
01:53:07.079 --> 01:53:08.760
<v Speaker 5>Rescue five took those boxes over?

2219
01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:11.439
<v Speaker 8>For you guys, that was way before me as Mike

2220
01:53:11.760 --> 01:53:12.319
<v Speaker 8>not good.

2221
01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:14.720
<v Speaker 6>Talks about that.

2222
01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:15.920
<v Speaker 5>Not good.

2223
01:53:17.039 --> 01:53:18.399
<v Speaker 10>It was all borrow.

2224
01:53:18.359 --> 01:53:23.840
<v Speaker 7>Right, and it was a little underhanded by those guys

2225
01:53:23.880 --> 01:53:27.079
<v Speaker 7>over the bridge and had they come about what do

2226
01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.800
<v Speaker 7>you mean? They wanted to get a little bit more work,

2227
01:53:31.199 --> 01:53:34.159
<v Speaker 7>I believe, and they you know, get into Coney Island

2228
01:53:34.199 --> 01:53:36.279
<v Speaker 7>a little bit into the you know, three three battalion

2229
01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:40.159
<v Speaker 7>and uh they put a you know, pitch in and

2230
01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:44.199
<v Speaker 7>went through the political side of the house and it

2231
01:53:44.319 --> 01:53:47.880
<v Speaker 7>went around a lot of fire department officials type of thing.

2232
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:51.560
<v Speaker 7>So we weren't really weren't too happy about it. But

2233
01:53:51.760 --> 01:53:53.399
<v Speaker 7>a long run, you know a lot of times we

2234
01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:55.159
<v Speaker 7>went out to that part of Brooklyn. It was a

2235
01:53:55.239 --> 01:53:58.439
<v Speaker 7>long run. And when we worked, we worked, I mean,

2236
01:53:59.079 --> 01:54:02.239
<v Speaker 7>there was one chief in the three three battalion that

2237
01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.840
<v Speaker 7>he we give the companies a chance to get in

2238
01:54:05.920 --> 01:54:09.159
<v Speaker 7>there do what they had to do. And I could

2239
01:54:09.520 --> 01:54:12.800
<v Speaker 7>count many many times where they come over to radio

2240
01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:15.720
<v Speaker 7>three three to Brooklyn, make sure rescue is coming in.

2241
01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:17.840
<v Speaker 7>Tell them we have two line stretch that the front stoop,

2242
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:21.840
<v Speaker 7>we're waiting her arrival. And we were like look at

2243
01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:25.560
<v Speaker 7>each other, like what's going on? And sure enough the

2244
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:28.520
<v Speaker 7>lines would be waiting at this front step, and uh,

2245
01:54:28.640 --> 01:54:30.960
<v Speaker 7>you know, we would just take them over, right. But

2246
01:54:31.319 --> 01:54:33.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, but a lot of times, I know a

2247
01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:36.920
<v Speaker 7>lot of we had the state in that fire area

2248
01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:38.880
<v Speaker 7>a lot of times and not go into that, uh

2249
01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:41.800
<v Speaker 7>that part of Brooklyn because they're right back. We missed

2250
01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:42.039
<v Speaker 7>a lot.

2251
01:54:42.359 --> 01:54:44.600
<v Speaker 5>I'll say, you probably missed some jobs coming back.

2252
01:54:44.520 --> 01:54:47.399
<v Speaker 7>Then being only yeah, yeah, for one job, you might

2253
01:54:47.439 --> 01:54:49.960
<v Speaker 7>miss two, right, And for us it wasn't worth it.

2254
01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:52.159
<v Speaker 7>So in the long run, it wasn't that bad that

2255
01:54:52.279 --> 01:54:55.760
<v Speaker 7>you know, five took over that area, right, But it

2256
01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:58.279
<v Speaker 7>was just an insult coming into our borrow type of thing.

2257
01:54:58.520 --> 01:55:01.079
<v Speaker 6>And you know, we learned to have a green point.

2258
01:55:03.119 --> 01:55:04.399
<v Speaker 8>With three rescues come in.

2259
01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:06.840
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, right, I was just going to say, they rescue

2260
01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:08.079
<v Speaker 6>fall comes at the green point.

2261
01:55:08.520 --> 01:55:12.199
<v Speaker 8>Takes sell the green Point Rescue three, Rescue five comes

2262
01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:13.479
<v Speaker 8>over the bridge and handles all.

2263
01:55:13.760 --> 01:55:15.359
<v Speaker 6>You guys got a lot of work. You gotta spread

2264
01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:16.640
<v Speaker 6>it around me. Come on, you can't.

2265
01:55:20.600 --> 01:55:21.760
<v Speaker 5>Spread around a little gags.

2266
01:55:21.800 --> 01:55:24.479
<v Speaker 6>You could try this question. What's this question from Dave Beata.

2267
01:55:25.079 --> 01:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>He wants to know if Bill Hewittson, if I say

2268
01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it right, has any family on the job. He was

2269
01:55:29.760 --> 01:55:30.560
<v Speaker 1>asking Mike and Jim.

2270
01:55:31.319 --> 01:55:35.560
<v Speaker 7>Dave, I don't believe he has anybody on the fight department.

2271
01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:41.319
<v Speaker 7>Billy did have a brother in UH Highway and YPD

2272
01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:45.800
<v Speaker 7>Highway that we met when Billy was very sick, and

2273
01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:48.840
<v Speaker 7>his father was in the NYPD also, I believe, and

2274
01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:51.840
<v Speaker 7>his father, from what I heard, was the one that

2275
01:55:51.960 --> 01:55:57.000
<v Speaker 7>designed the Emergency Service Unit patch well logo really back when.

2276
01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:00.760
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, as long as though you can bring up that picture.

2277
01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:03.199
<v Speaker 12>It's a black and white picture. Billy's standing on the

2278
01:56:03.479 --> 01:56:06.560
<v Speaker 12>on a turntable. It's a black and white vertical picture.

2279
01:56:07.840 --> 01:56:09.359
<v Speaker 12>Up the whole bunch, I'll show you who Billy is.

2280
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:15.880
<v Speaker 7>Billy was a phenomenal fine and extremely aggressive. He got

2281
01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:19.079
<v Speaker 7>just pains one time at a fire. We carried him

2282
01:56:19.079 --> 01:56:21.640
<v Speaker 7>out at the fire, you know, getting ready for the ambulance.

2283
01:56:21.720 --> 01:56:23.880
<v Speaker 7>He goes, wait, wait, stop, stop, what do you want?

2284
01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:25.800
<v Speaker 7>He goes, I just want to have one more cigarette before.

2285
01:56:25.680 --> 01:56:26.319
<v Speaker 6>I go to the hospital.

2286
01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:27.840
<v Speaker 7>Billy, you're having a heart attack.

2287
01:56:28.479 --> 01:56:28.640
<v Speaker 6>You know.

2288
01:56:30.399 --> 01:56:31.600
<v Speaker 8>He was one of those guys who was as soon

2289
01:56:31.600 --> 01:56:31.960
<v Speaker 8>as get.

2290
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:32.359
<v Speaker 6>Out of the job.

2291
01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:35.119
<v Speaker 5>I love those guys, bro with that face, all black

2292
01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:37.680
<v Speaker 5>with a cigarette, like they didn't get enough.

2293
01:56:38.920 --> 01:56:40.000
<v Speaker 10>That's not it.

2294
01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:42.960
<v Speaker 8>It's a real close up off him coming down the

2295
01:56:43.039 --> 01:56:43.960
<v Speaker 8>area by himself.

2296
01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:47.000
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, he's on he's on the on the turntable.

2297
01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:49.239
<v Speaker 5>Hey, Jamie, I'll throw a little question out to you.

2298
01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:52.840
<v Speaker 8>Okay, who who originally trained.

2299
01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:54.640
<v Speaker 5>E s U when they first came online?

2300
01:56:55.039 --> 01:56:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a title? His name? Billy by chance?

2301
01:56:58.640 --> 01:57:02.159
<v Speaker 8>No, there is is right there just in the middle.

2302
01:57:02.840 --> 01:57:03.800
<v Speaker 10>That's Billy Goodwidson.

2303
01:57:04.600 --> 01:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't know him.

2304
01:57:06.680 --> 01:57:11.479
<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't know that. That face, yeah, that's

2305
01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:12.479
<v Speaker 6>nineteen eighty five.

2306
01:57:12.640 --> 01:57:14.520
<v Speaker 5>It's got the old mask. Yep.

2307
01:57:15.239 --> 01:57:18.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, in nineteen eighty five, we were going back and

2308
01:57:18.239 --> 01:57:21.119
<v Speaker 7>forth between the two point two Scott masks, the old

2309
01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:23.760
<v Speaker 7>ones and the four point fives at the time, so

2310
01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:26.279
<v Speaker 7>half of the guys that were there already always kept

2311
01:57:26.319 --> 01:57:30.800
<v Speaker 7>those masks on and us new guys if Gonzo. Keep

2312
01:57:30.800 --> 01:57:35.560
<v Speaker 7>that picture up for a second, sure, And we go

2313
01:57:35.680 --> 01:57:38.720
<v Speaker 7>back and forth between those two types of masks until

2314
01:57:39.720 --> 01:57:43.319
<v Speaker 7>eventually everybody went to the four point five because it's

2315
01:57:43.319 --> 01:57:47.399
<v Speaker 7>so much lighter, right, But I just want to call

2316
01:57:47.439 --> 01:57:49.560
<v Speaker 7>it this picture here. This is a picture of Lieutenant

2317
01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:50.159
<v Speaker 7>Bill Cole.

2318
01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Right.

2319
01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:55.840
<v Speaker 7>He worked at the fire the LNG explosion in Staten Island,

2320
01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:59.479
<v Speaker 7>I think it was nineteen seventy three. He was in

2321
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:01.880
<v Speaker 7>this little basket. You see the guy's holding the basket

2322
01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:04.960
<v Speaker 7>on the sides. He had the rope tied to him, right,

2323
01:58:05.279 --> 01:58:07.920
<v Speaker 7>he had a radio. And what they did they lowered

2324
01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:12.800
<v Speaker 7>him into the LNG tank that exploded where forty men died.

2325
01:58:14.319 --> 01:58:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Because they were dead. And then they lowered this guy

2326
01:58:16.079 --> 01:58:18.079
<v Speaker 5>right into the into the right into the middle of it.

2327
01:58:18.279 --> 01:58:22.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and this in the little tube where a radio

2328
01:58:22.279 --> 01:58:24.039
<v Speaker 7>that didn't know if it was going to work or not.

2329
01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:27.039
<v Speaker 7>And you know, and he said when they got down

2330
01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:29.600
<v Speaker 7>to the bottom, it was like going to hell. All

2331
01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:33.960
<v Speaker 7>was his body, body parts and just fire everywhere. And

2332
01:58:34.279 --> 01:58:36.840
<v Speaker 7>you know, they pulled him out and then they wound

2333
01:58:36.920 --> 01:58:39.560
<v Speaker 7>up waiting for the fire knocked down a little bit

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01:58:39.560 --> 01:58:42.439
<v Speaker 7>more to him and someone else went down later on

2335
01:58:42.600 --> 01:58:43.640
<v Speaker 7>to do a search and try to.

2336
01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:45.880
<v Speaker 6>Find help a lot. Look at that helmet on his head.

2337
01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:49.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and Billy was a fine a fireman, a rescue

2338
01:58:49.640 --> 01:58:51.680
<v Speaker 7>toom before he got bolted. He came back as a lieutenant.

2339
01:58:52.399 --> 01:58:53.199
<v Speaker 6>That's incredible.

2340
01:58:54.199 --> 01:58:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2341
01:58:54.720 --> 01:58:56.640
<v Speaker 5>So the question I threw out the gym he was

2342
01:58:56.680 --> 01:58:59.399
<v Speaker 5>who originally trained e s U when they when they

2343
01:58:59.439 --> 01:58:59.880
<v Speaker 5>first went on.

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01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:06.199
<v Speaker 8>So back, what I read was rescue one and Rescue two. Yep,

2345
01:59:06.840 --> 01:59:11.079
<v Speaker 8>took turns training ESU, you know, to make them what

2346
01:59:11.199 --> 01:59:13.800
<v Speaker 8>they are today because of all the running.

2347
01:59:14.840 --> 01:59:17.159
<v Speaker 7>They would go way out. I mean you can remember they.

2348
01:59:17.079 --> 01:59:20.479
<v Speaker 8>Were the only two rescues in four Burroughs at the time,

2349
01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:25.680
<v Speaker 8>so anything that was further out they're required, not fire

2350
01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:29.560
<v Speaker 8>you know, incident, but any type of incident. That's what

2351
01:59:29.680 --> 01:59:33.039
<v Speaker 8>they trained the pled and eventually I think there was

2352
01:59:33.119 --> 01:59:36.000
<v Speaker 8>twenty one s U units back then, So.

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01:59:36.000 --> 01:59:38.199
<v Speaker 5>Any time of ESU got used any ship. You say,

2354
01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:40.479
<v Speaker 5>we don't want to train you guys, we started.

2355
01:59:42.600 --> 01:59:44.840
<v Speaker 6>I'll take that face piece off, get out of my

2356
01:59:44.920 --> 01:59:50.439
<v Speaker 6>fire apartment, get your rig off the hydrant, sell them.

2357
01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:53.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we're the ones that trained them back in I

2358
01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:57.680
<v Speaker 8>think it was in the mid thirties, you know, because

2359
01:59:58.119 --> 02:00:01.239
<v Speaker 8>of all and back then, and the reason was because

2360
02:00:01.239 --> 02:00:04.680
<v Speaker 8>of the amount of traffic and congestion getting through the streets.

2361
02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:07.800
<v Speaker 8>They couldn't make it. So they trained the PD to

2362
02:00:07.960 --> 02:00:09.279
<v Speaker 8>handle all the emergencies.

2363
02:00:10.439 --> 02:00:11.840
<v Speaker 5>He Jimmy is on it, he is.

2364
02:00:13.960 --> 02:00:15.439
<v Speaker 6>We got we gotta get the new We got to

2365
02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:17.720
<v Speaker 6>get the new lingo like coffee with sand.

2366
02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:22.800
<v Speaker 7>It's Jimmy show.

2367
02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:32.439
<v Speaker 6>I got to come up with a with a little

2368
02:00:32.680 --> 02:00:34.880
<v Speaker 6>little You need a slogan, you need a good one.

2369
02:00:36.399 --> 02:00:40.560
<v Speaker 8>He's on the shows. But you know, we might have

2370
02:00:40.600 --> 02:00:45.000
<v Speaker 8>forgotten one or two. And you know, we didn't mean

2371
02:00:45.079 --> 02:00:46.960
<v Speaker 8>to do that for getting those people.

2372
02:00:47.199 --> 02:00:48.119
<v Speaker 7>But there was a lot of.

2373
02:00:48.119 --> 02:00:51.319
<v Speaker 8>People involved in so far as behind the scenes making

2374
02:00:51.439 --> 02:00:53.720
<v Speaker 8>this book what it is and what it is today.

2375
02:00:54.039 --> 02:00:56.479
<v Speaker 8>You know, even the guys in the flyoffs and rescue too.

2376
02:00:56.920 --> 02:01:01.000
<v Speaker 8>You know who knows to those guys, they did a lot.

2377
02:01:01.960 --> 02:01:04.399
<v Speaker 8>People don't understand or what they did, but they were

2378
02:01:04.479 --> 02:01:07.520
<v Speaker 8>the guys behind the scene, you know, to make it

2379
02:01:07.600 --> 02:01:11.039
<v Speaker 8>what it was and what it is today. Look, we

2380
02:01:11.119 --> 02:01:14.479
<v Speaker 8>got I haven't been in the new file. Its pretty interesting, man.

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02:01:14.560 --> 02:01:20.199
<v Speaker 5>It's like it's like amusement park for firefighters. That's crazy

2382
02:01:20.199 --> 02:01:23.359
<v Speaker 5>Affle day and it's unbelievable when I went.

2383
02:01:23.319 --> 02:01:25.159
<v Speaker 6>Back and it smells like smoke.

2384
02:01:25.600 --> 02:01:26.600
<v Speaker 5>I smoke.

2385
02:01:29.560 --> 02:01:33.600
<v Speaker 8>Firehouse and I'm like, something's different here. And I'm looking

2386
02:01:33.680 --> 02:01:38.359
<v Speaker 8>at the walls and they one wall they bricked from

2387
02:01:38.399 --> 02:01:41.479
<v Speaker 8>one end to the building to the other. So you go,

2388
02:01:42.359 --> 02:01:44.680
<v Speaker 8>that wasn't there like three months ago. They go, not

2389
02:01:44.840 --> 02:01:45.279
<v Speaker 8>we did that?

2390
02:01:46.640 --> 02:01:49.079
<v Speaker 7>They go, man, it's pretty interesting.

2391
02:01:49.439 --> 02:01:51.439
<v Speaker 5>They got so much Memora Bailure in there too.

2392
02:01:51.520 --> 02:01:52.000
<v Speaker 1>For Rescue.

2393
02:01:52.119 --> 02:01:54.239
<v Speaker 8>What they want to do is they they want to

2394
02:01:54.279 --> 02:01:56.560
<v Speaker 8>make the firehouse, the inside of the fires look like

2395
02:01:56.680 --> 02:02:00.239
<v Speaker 8>an old firehouse. The dune brick on the other well,

2396
02:02:00.479 --> 02:02:02.760
<v Speaker 8>to make it look like an old tiny flyouse.

2397
02:02:02.640 --> 02:02:06.720
<v Speaker 5>It before that. How much talent, right, there's somebody came

2398
02:02:06.840 --> 02:02:10.159
<v Speaker 5>up with one on I said, it's a cup of

2399
02:02:10.319 --> 02:02:19.279
<v Speaker 5>Joe with Jimbo. I like you with Jimbo, Baby Joe.

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02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:23.640
<v Speaker 7>One of the things I can add with the guys

2401
02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:25.680
<v Speaker 7>in the house, they did an outstanding job putting that

2402
02:02:25.800 --> 02:02:29.479
<v Speaker 7>centennials together, absolutely getting the imitations out and everything else.

2403
02:02:29.560 --> 02:02:32.279
<v Speaker 7>And they did an outstanding job. And one of the

2404
02:02:32.359 --> 02:02:35.359
<v Speaker 7>things with rescue, whether it's nineteen twenty five or twenty

2405
02:02:35.439 --> 02:02:39.520
<v Speaker 7>twenty five, you know, it's the same attitude. It's the

2406
02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:43.960
<v Speaker 7>same bunch of personalities. It's just different names, right. I

2407
02:02:44.039 --> 02:02:47.079
<v Speaker 7>think the tradition is always going to continue there and

2408
02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:48.720
<v Speaker 7>just before it is rescue too.

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02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:51.600
<v Speaker 5>That that is a testament to the members.

2410
02:02:51.680 --> 02:02:55.079
<v Speaker 8>Dad man passed very did Mike, You're absolutely correct, dead

2411
02:02:55.119 --> 02:02:55.720
<v Speaker 8>on accurate.

2412
02:02:56.039 --> 02:02:59.319
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know, Louis Les now to get yours.

2413
02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:01.399
<v Speaker 6>What imitation right?

2414
02:03:01.840 --> 02:03:02.279
<v Speaker 5>Exactly?

2415
02:03:04.279 --> 02:03:06.560
<v Speaker 6>I tell you right now. I thought the commissioner was great.

2416
02:03:06.720 --> 02:03:07.960
<v Speaker 6>I thought the commissioner was he.

2417
02:03:08.159 --> 02:03:10.920
<v Speaker 8>Is two allergy. Now you're gonna start.

2418
02:03:13.680 --> 02:03:16.119
<v Speaker 6>The way he's gonna be. He's gonna be texting you.

2419
02:03:16.359 --> 02:03:19.840
<v Speaker 6>I might even text you every day. But Joe with Jim.

2420
02:03:23.039 --> 02:03:30.199
<v Speaker 5>Uh you guys, Uh did you guys talk to the

2421
02:03:30.239 --> 02:03:30.960
<v Speaker 5>commissioner at all?

2422
02:03:32.079 --> 02:03:34.680
<v Speaker 7>I didn't. No, I didn't get a chance to.

2423
02:03:34.960 --> 02:03:35.840
<v Speaker 5>He is a cool guy, man.

2424
02:03:36.239 --> 02:03:38.079
<v Speaker 8>I didn't have a chance to speak to him.

2425
02:03:38.920 --> 02:03:43.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, his speech was very you know, very comfortable.

2426
02:03:43.279 --> 02:03:45.159
<v Speaker 7>You know, he seemed like one of the guys.

2427
02:03:45.800 --> 02:03:47.640
<v Speaker 5>He's a big buff man. He loves the fly service

2428
02:03:48.279 --> 02:03:48.960
<v Speaker 5>a buff.

2429
02:03:49.359 --> 02:03:51.239
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, he's an incredible guy.

2430
02:03:51.640 --> 02:03:56.800
<v Speaker 12>He started his his mom was a uh worked for

2431
02:03:56.960 --> 02:03:59.600
<v Speaker 12>Mayor Koch and they lived up on the Upper East

2432
02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:04.800
<v Speaker 12>Side and Uh, one summer his mom goes, you ain't staying.

2433
02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:07.079
<v Speaker 10>Home all summer you're going to work. And I know

2434
02:04:07.600 --> 02:04:08.600
<v Speaker 10>a lot of you guys know him.

2435
02:04:08.600 --> 02:04:11.640
<v Speaker 12>You know, Kenny Fisher was the supervisor dispatcher in the

2436
02:04:12.119 --> 02:04:15.800
<v Speaker 12>in the Manhattan CEO and the commissioner spent the summer

2437
02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:17.239
<v Speaker 12>working in the Madden CEO.

2438
02:04:17.760 --> 02:04:19.840
<v Speaker 10>And uh, that's sweet.

2439
02:04:20.560 --> 02:04:22.119
<v Speaker 5>You might know him and you might be able to

2440
02:04:22.279 --> 02:04:23.199
<v Speaker 5>help me get him on the show.

2441
02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:26.319
<v Speaker 10>Cricket, Cricket, gosh, cricket. Let me find it for you

2442
02:04:26.479 --> 02:04:29.319
<v Speaker 10>because he I mean, he loves the job. He was,

2443
02:04:29.399 --> 02:04:32.039
<v Speaker 10>you know, he was, he's I've gotten that. Had a

2444
02:04:32.079 --> 02:04:34.600
<v Speaker 10>couple of conversations with him, and he's a good guy

2445
02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:35.399
<v Speaker 10>like that.

2446
02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:37.880
<v Speaker 5>I said, hey, Glad, did you get me in contact

2447
02:04:37.920 --> 02:04:47.720
<v Speaker 5>for him? Three hours later, I don't even need the commission.

2448
02:04:47.760 --> 02:04:50.319
<v Speaker 5>I've had Penna and Sanders on the show. Rough can

2449
02:04:50.359 --> 02:04:52.119
<v Speaker 5>we do better than that? We can't?

2450
02:04:52.359 --> 02:04:54.479
<v Speaker 6>No, I need.

2451
02:04:56.199 --> 02:04:59.199
<v Speaker 5>I I know, ye, Jimmy had a good time.

2452
02:04:59.560 --> 02:05:01.600
<v Speaker 6>It's just gonna say that you took the work right

2453
02:05:01.640 --> 02:05:02.279
<v Speaker 6>out of my mouth.

2454
02:05:05.000 --> 02:05:07.479
<v Speaker 7>I had a good time after I did. I had

2455
02:05:07.520 --> 02:05:08.560
<v Speaker 7>a good time with you guys.

2456
02:05:10.079 --> 02:05:11.920
<v Speaker 5>Baby. Danny Murphy will follow.

2457
02:05:12.119 --> 02:05:14.000
<v Speaker 6>I don't know who I've been working on Murph. I've

2458
02:05:14.039 --> 02:05:16.359
<v Speaker 6>been working Murph's a little time. It's gonna be time.

2459
02:05:16.920 --> 02:05:21.000
<v Speaker 8>The Commissioner's day that on March first was the company

2460
02:05:21.079 --> 02:05:22.720
<v Speaker 8>presented the word a company jacket.

2461
02:05:23.840 --> 02:05:27.520
<v Speaker 6>So the commission Oh I had the tough guy jacket.

2462
02:05:27.560 --> 02:05:27.960
<v Speaker 6>I saw that.

2463
02:05:28.520 --> 02:05:31.359
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no more tough. We didn't give him jean jacket.

2464
02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:33.760
<v Speaker 8>Oh no, that's a tough guy jacket.

2465
02:05:35.239 --> 02:05:36.600
<v Speaker 7>Like wear those things did you wear?

2466
02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:37.479
<v Speaker 8>Like onesies?

2467
02:05:41.319 --> 02:05:41.600
<v Speaker 5>I got.

2468
02:05:45.600 --> 02:05:54.039
<v Speaker 6>Let him have it. I love it, I love it.

2469
02:05:54.840 --> 02:05:58.359
<v Speaker 5>I would a smile on my face. We got the

2470
02:05:58.399 --> 02:05:59.760
<v Speaker 5>dread to and the rescue Michel.

2471
02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:05.840
<v Speaker 6>It sounds like a job, like a job. It's just

2472
02:06:05.920 --> 02:06:11.960
<v Speaker 6>coming in there. Three rescue sounds like what's.

2473
02:06:11.800 --> 02:06:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Before he wraps up? I got to get talked tonight.

2474
02:06:14.319 --> 02:06:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was great.

2475
02:06:17.359 --> 02:06:18.439
<v Speaker 5>Where we get the book again?

2476
02:06:18.840 --> 02:06:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the book, the book.

2477
02:06:23.640 --> 02:06:23.920
<v Speaker 10>Book.

2478
02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:26.079
<v Speaker 1>It looks like this is what it looks like a

2479
02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:28.000
<v Speaker 1>case for you don't know.

2480
02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:30.880
<v Speaker 5>This is what looks like. I'm bringing a couple of

2481
02:06:31.039 --> 02:06:33.239
<v Speaker 5>the they saved New York. If you want me to

2482
02:06:33.279 --> 02:06:35.359
<v Speaker 5>bring a couple of rescue twos, you gotta get up to.

2483
02:06:35.399 --> 02:06:39.399
<v Speaker 1>Me over the I know the address, I know the place.

2484
02:06:39.720 --> 02:06:40.399
<v Speaker 6>I know the place.

2485
02:06:40.840 --> 02:06:41.560
<v Speaker 5>You know the guy.

2486
02:06:42.960 --> 02:06:47.079
<v Speaker 8>The rig They all break back like from nineteen thirty goes, Hey, Jimmy,

2487
02:06:47.159 --> 02:06:48.239
<v Speaker 8>is that you driving the rig?

2488
02:06:49.880 --> 02:06:50.159
<v Speaker 10>Thanks you.

2489
02:06:51.199 --> 02:06:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I love the race. I have all the pictures of

2490
02:06:53.039 --> 02:06:55.319
<v Speaker 5>the race from the exception all the way up some

2491
02:06:55.520 --> 02:06:58.199
<v Speaker 5>briggs that they had in the beginning, Well, unbelievable.

2492
02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:03.520
<v Speaker 8>Hash put in the book, Mike right, that Rescue one

2493
02:07:03.600 --> 02:07:06.399
<v Speaker 8>when they had that one rike, they made it across

2494
02:07:06.520 --> 02:07:10.880
<v Speaker 8>town in like record time. Really right, It's it was

2495
02:07:10.960 --> 02:07:16.039
<v Speaker 8>in Rescue One's book that hash frote that they had.

2496
02:07:17.359 --> 02:07:19.880
<v Speaker 8>I forget how fast he, the person who was the

2497
02:07:19.960 --> 02:07:22.479
<v Speaker 8>show at the time, made it across Manhattan.

2498
02:07:23.520 --> 02:07:23.920
<v Speaker 5>M hmm.

2499
02:07:24.279 --> 02:07:26.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. Well, one of the things I always said with

2500
02:07:27.039 --> 02:07:29.600
<v Speaker 7>the when they responded to that submarine fire in Brooklyn,

2501
02:07:29.680 --> 02:07:32.399
<v Speaker 7>I said, if if hashtaggen or Kevin Croft were driving,

2502
02:07:32.640 --> 02:07:33.920
<v Speaker 7>there wouldn't be no rescue too.

2503
02:07:37.000 --> 02:07:39.560
<v Speaker 6>Definitely cross Man, definitely Crossing.

2504
02:07:40.479 --> 02:07:44.239
<v Speaker 1>Definitely definitely talking about this rig year this one.

2505
02:07:45.600 --> 02:07:49.319
<v Speaker 12>No, it was when the older older let me see,

2506
02:07:49.319 --> 02:07:52.680
<v Speaker 12>I take up like something out of the Little Rascals.

2507
02:07:56.880 --> 02:07:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I have it.

2508
02:07:57.520 --> 02:08:00.960
<v Speaker 5>I don't know where it is. It's best. Yeah, before

2509
02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:04.199
<v Speaker 5>we go, guys, we gotta play for Lancaster.

2510
02:08:04.680 --> 02:08:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Well you speak, I've heard it.

2511
02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:10.479
<v Speaker 5>I have a ready Me and Louis will be We

2512
02:08:10.520 --> 02:08:15.720
<v Speaker 5>will be in Harrisburg the fifty third annual Fire Export,

2513
02:08:15.760 --> 02:08:20.359
<v Speaker 5>hosted by the Lancaster County Fireman's Association. Fire Export will

2514
02:08:20.359 --> 02:08:23.039
<v Speaker 5>showcase more than two hundred and fifty emergency service exhibits

2515
02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:27.319
<v Speaker 5>featuring the world's leading manufacturers of fire, emergency, medical services,

2516
02:08:27.399 --> 02:08:30.840
<v Speaker 5>rescue and public safety equipment to Fire Expo not only

2517
02:08:30.920 --> 02:08:34.479
<v Speaker 5>has displays, exhibits, live demonstrations, but also provides training from

2518
02:08:34.560 --> 02:08:39.159
<v Speaker 5>Cumberland Valley Volunty A, Firefight Associations, Penn State, Hershey Lifeline,

2519
02:08:39.239 --> 02:08:43.359
<v Speaker 5>Critical Care Transport, Middle Creek Search and Rescue PA, Office

2520
02:08:43.399 --> 02:08:47.239
<v Speaker 5>of the State Fire Commissioner. Full training descriptions and details

2521
02:08:47.239 --> 02:08:51.680
<v Speaker 5>are available on our website May sixteenth, May seventeenth, nine

2522
02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:56.119
<v Speaker 5>to five on the sixteenth, nine to four. On the seventeenth,

2523
02:08:56.239 --> 02:08:58.159
<v Speaker 5>come and see me and Louis. Buy some shit, take

2524
02:08:58.199 --> 02:09:01.319
<v Speaker 5>them on the out of pocket, buy a couple T shirts. Now,

2525
02:09:01.359 --> 02:09:03.439
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna send some free sweg over to Jimmy. He's

2526
02:09:03.439 --> 02:09:06.359
<v Speaker 5>gonna really love us and Jimmy, guess what you get

2527
02:09:06.399 --> 02:09:08.960
<v Speaker 5>invited on the boat trip now, and so does uh

2528
02:09:09.760 --> 02:09:13.319
<v Speaker 5>Petter Again. We have a boat trip August second where

2529
02:09:13.359 --> 02:09:17.199
<v Speaker 5>we take out the fireboat the John J. Harvey and

2530
02:09:17.319 --> 02:09:20.000
<v Speaker 5>we go sail around the Statue of Liberty. You get

2531
02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:23.399
<v Speaker 5>to drink your face off, eat some good food, and uh.

2532
02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:25.800
<v Speaker 6>A lot of old there's a lot of old, crusty

2533
02:09:25.840 --> 02:09:27.079
<v Speaker 6>guys telling fire stories.

2534
02:09:27.359 --> 02:09:32.439
<v Speaker 5>Appreciate August second.

2535
02:09:33.000 --> 02:09:34.079
<v Speaker 8>Great time with you guys.

2536
02:09:34.319 --> 02:09:36.159
<v Speaker 5>Put it on Oh you know I already invited you

2537
02:09:36.479 --> 02:09:38.199
<v Speaker 5>August second. Put it on your calendar.

2538
02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:42.119
<v Speaker 10>We'll see you there a Sunday night again or Saturday.

2539
02:09:42.439 --> 02:09:44.000
<v Speaker 5>It's a Saturday Saturday.

2540
02:09:44.920 --> 02:09:46.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Unfortunately, I will not.

2541
02:09:51.079 --> 02:09:51.800
<v Speaker 5>Suck in my throat.

2542
02:09:51.920 --> 02:09:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

2543
02:09:53.039 --> 02:09:55.119
<v Speaker 5>How we got it once? We know we got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Bro Friday had a good time.

2545
02:09:59.640 --> 02:10:05.399
<v Speaker 6>Second manner in the back going. But he'll r bubbling, unbatterman.

2546
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<v Speaker 6>It's bubbling.

2547
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<v Speaker 5>We call him always reliable. Pana. Anything you need, everybody

2548
02:10:14.920 --> 02:10:18.079
<v Speaker 5>go all right, rough any shout outs tonight.

2549
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<v Speaker 6>I don't got nothing. We're gonna be away next week.

2550
02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:21.960
<v Speaker 6>So we got no show next week.

2551
02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:24.520
<v Speaker 5>All right, we're going away, Indy.

2552
02:10:24.760 --> 02:10:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, come out and see us. Ft I s we'll

2553
02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:27.279
<v Speaker 1>see them.

2554
02:10:27.399 --> 02:10:28.319
<v Speaker 6>I might show up three.

2555
02:10:29.920 --> 02:10:30.840
<v Speaker 5>What's that you know?

2556
02:10:30.920 --> 02:10:30.960
<v Speaker 1>What?

2557
02:10:31.039 --> 02:10:35.520
<v Speaker 6>Booth wearing ten thousand, same booth we're always in ten thousand.

2558
02:10:35.640 --> 02:10:37.640
<v Speaker 10>Come and see us you can have pizza cutters.

2559
02:10:38.279 --> 02:10:40.319
<v Speaker 5>How we have pizza cutters. We're gonna send gimmy a

2560
02:10:40.319 --> 02:10:40.840
<v Speaker 5>pizza cutter.

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<v Speaker 7>Sold.

2562
02:10:42.319 --> 02:10:46.199
<v Speaker 5>Oh it's a partner, sow pizza cutter. You'll love it.

2563
02:10:47.479 --> 02:10:51.720
<v Speaker 5>Hang on now, he's like it takes a kid right now,

2564
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<v Speaker 5>you know the price is right.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to my world, Jim, Welcome.

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02:10:57.880 --> 02:10:59.000
<v Speaker 1>To my I.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll send something to out a pan. All right, listen,

2568
02:11:02.920 --> 02:11:05.119
<v Speaker 5>we'll see you in more than a week and a

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<v Speaker 5>week and a half from now. Don't cry, you'll miss it.

2570
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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. Alright, God, guys, I'll see you. Uh,

2571
02:11:16.439 --> 02:11:19.560
<v Speaker 5>we'll see you in Indy. Yeah for sure. All right, rough, guys,

2572
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<v Speaker 5>have a great night. You know what I say. Stay

2573
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<v Speaker 5>low and go.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see it the big one everybody. Thanks again, guys,

2575
02:11:25.359 --> 02:11:26.039
<v Speaker 6>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 9>Al Right, guys, have a good night. Remember leave the

2577
02:11:28.680 --> 02:11:30.840
<v Speaker 9>job better than you find it, my friend, have a

2578
02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:31.239
<v Speaker 9>good night.